=== CarlFK1 is now known as CarlFK [21:52] cjwatson: if you're still around. Do you expect anything bad to happen if I turn on CONFIG_PING and CONFIG_PING6 in busybox-initramfs? I'm mostly interested in having ping6 really as ping is currently provided by something else in our installer though I guess it'd make sense to turn both on if I do that. [22:14] stgraber: How much does busybox grow if you do that? [22:15] infinity: that's the next thing I need to check, I wouldn't expect a huge growth for just ping+ping6 but that's definitely on the list [22:16] stgraber: Also, what provides ping, and can we drop it if busybox provides it? [22:17] stgraber: Mostly, though, I suspect this is less of a concern for the installer specifically, and more of a concern for initrds growing in general. [22:17] (A potential concern for the installer if busybox ping doesn't provide the same interface as the other one being used, and we still need two) [22:17] stgraber: Third option, can whatever's providing ping also provide ping6, and we're just not doing so in the current udeb? [22:19] (From a "not related to the intaller" POV, mind you, I suspect people with NFS roots and the like might find ping/ping6 in busybox-initramfs handy as a diagnostic tool) [22:41] infinity: yeah, I still need to figure out exactly what provides ping at the moment, its output is quite different "blah is alive!" and it returns instantly so I'm guessing having a "real" ping may break things in the installer [22:42] having ping/ping6 would definitely be useful in the initrd, also for LTSP as debugging things with busybox-initramfs is kind of tricky (IIRC the most useful thing in there is netcat) [22:43] anyway, I guess I'll just do a local build with the extra options to check the size and will then build a custom installer initrd to see if the installer explodes because of it [22:49] stgraber: sounds generally OK I guess; the installer doesn't care what's in busybox-initramfs, busybox-udeb is a separate build [22:49] and a separate config [22:50] maybe first decide whether you're talking about the initramfs or the installer :) [23:13] ah, I assumed the installer was using the initramfs build, looks like I was wrong. I was mostly interested in the installer, so these changes would be for initramfs-udeb then :) [23:15] *busybox-udeb, I guess [23:16] right ;) [23:16] debian/config/pkg/udeb:783:CONFIG_PING=y [23:17] looks like busybox already provides that then; turning on PING6 too seems like a no-brainer, go ahead [23:17] see 1:1.1.3-5ubuntu8 [23:18] yeah, guess it helps looking at the right config file ;) turning PING6 on then and uploading that. I assume you're not too concerned about the size difference for the udeb? [23:18] not desperately [23:18] I mean, I care a little bit, but ping6 shouldn't be huge [23:19] in fact it looks like it shares code with ping [23:20] so yeah, doit [23:22] good, uploaded [23:27] ok and with that, calling it a week, time to pack and change side of the atlantic ocean [23:36] temporary or permanent? (I think you did tell me, I just forgot)