beuno | no kdub? | 00:02 |
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pleia2 | doesn't look like it | 00:03 |
pleia2 | he's in my loco team, I'll touch base out of meeting | 00:03 |
beuno | and no juanmarquez either | 00:03 |
pleia2 | short meeting indeed! | 00:03 |
pleia2 | we'll hang around for 20 minutes in case anyone shows up :) | 00:03 |
pleia2 | ah, juanmarquez is already a member! | 00:04 |
[N] | JuanMarquez was already an Ubuntu Member. His membership accidentally expired though. I have gone ahead and renewed it for him | 00:05 |
n0rman | the shortest meeting? | 00:05 |
pleia2 | thanks [N] | 00:05 |
trinikrono | can i ask for info here?,i would like to apply for membership but i dont know if i have contributed enough, you can see my wiki page here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/trinikrono | 00:15 |
pleia2 | ok, doesn't look like he'll be coming, have nice holidays everyone :) | 00:15 |
beuno | trinikrono, hi | 00:16 |
beuno | sure, let me look | 00:16 |
beuno | pleia2, o/ | 00:16 |
[N] | trinikrono: My best piece of advice (and what I did myself) is to look through the logs from some of the prior meetings and look at the people who applied. You can get a pretty good idea about what we are looking for and determine if you are ready. | 00:16 |
beuno | trinikrono, how many people are in the LoCo? | 00:17 |
pleia2 | trinikrono: I'd list any events your loco team has done, if any, if you haven't done any I'd work to start planning stuff | 00:17 |
pleia2 | (setting up a loco is great work! but the next step to have events is important :)) | 00:18 |
trinikrono | ah in the application itself | 00:18 |
cyphermox | argh! sorry sorry!!! I'm late! | 00:18 |
trinikrono | yes we had a few but i did not put them there | 00:18 |
pleia2 | cyphermox: it's ok, no meeting :) | 00:18 |
pleia2 | trinikrono: ah, I'd add the events and what your role was (organizer? volunteer?) | 00:18 |
cyphermox | ah ;) | 00:18 |
trinikrono | yes ill work on the application and read some of the past applications | 00:19 |
n0rman | trinikrono: you have to add t info about the events ) | 00:19 |
trinikrono | i thought i would see one tonight lol | 00:19 |
beuno | trinikrono, yeah, I think you could expand your application a bit, but all in all, it's worth expanding ti and applying, that's for sure | 00:19 |
trinikrono | :D thank you then, ill see if i get everything ready for the next one | 00:20 |
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Daviey | o/ | 15:59 |
pitti | \o | 16:00 |
cjwatson | hi | 16:00 |
Daviey | ☃ | 16:00 |
skaet | seeing familiar faces in the channel, so time to start. :) | 16:00 |
jibel | Hi o/ | 16:00 |
mdeslaur | \o | 16:00 |
dbarth | hi o/ | 16:00 |
skaet | #startmeeting | 16:01 |
meetingology | Meeting started Fri Dec 16 16:01:05 2011 UTC. The chair is skaet. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot. | 16:01 |
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skaet | [TOPIC] Release general overview - skaet | 16:01 |
skaet | Agenda can be found: | 16:01 |
skaet | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2011-12-16 | 16:01 |
skaet | Individual team status links will be added to it from: | 16:01 |
skaet | [LINK] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2011-December/thread.html | 16:01 |
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skaet | Team status' submitted by EOD Thursday have already been linked to the agenda, others will be added after the meeting. | 16:01 |
brendand | o/ | 16:01 |
skaet | . | 16:01 |
skaet | Schedule for this release will be at: | 16:01 |
skaet | [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule | 16:01 |
skaet | [link] http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars/ubuntu-release-calendar/ | 16:01 |
skaet | . | 16:01 |
skaet | There are now 2319 work items (up from last week, was 2084 on 2011/11/25), and we're falling above the trend line for features on some projects. | 16:01 |
skaet | Please review your tasks and make sure status is accurate before the new year. | 16:01 |
skaet | [link] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/ | 16:01 |
skaet | . | 16:01 |
skaet | Bugs committed to be fixed by the engineering teams can be found: | 16:01 |
skaet | #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/kernel-bugs/reports/rls-p-tracking-bugs.html | 16:01 |
skaet | Bugs that you would like the engineering teams to consider for fixing, should be assigned to specific teams, so they can be found. | 16:01 |
skaet | . | 16:01 |
skaet | Upcoming Dates: | 16:01 |
skaet | • 2011/12/16 - Last meeting of 2011 - best wishes for the holiday break! | 16:01 |
skaet | • 2012/01/06 - Weekly meetings resume | 16:02 |
skaet | • 2012/01/09 - DebianImportFreeze | 16:02 |
skaet | • 2012/02/02 - '''Alpha 2''' | 16:02 |
skaet | . | 16:02 |
skaet | IS and stgraber have worked through the glitches, and the updated http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ is now operational. :) Daily testing results and bugs can now be logged there now going forward. | 16:02 |
skaet | .. | 16:02 |
skaet | any questions before we start in to round table? | 16:02 |
Daviey | (no) | 16:03 |
skaet | stgraber needs to go early, and want to welcome olli to the round table this time. :) | 16:04 |
skaet | thanks for the no Daviey :) | 16:04 |
skaet | [TOPIC] Edubuntu Team Q&A - stgraber | 16:04 |
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* stgraber waves | 16:04 | |
stgraber | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2011-December/000604.html | 16:04 |
skaet | Thanks stgraber. anyone have questions today? | 16:05 |
stgraber | I'm still testing the new casper but so far everything looks good, let me know if it's breaking for your flavour. | 16:05 |
Daviey | stgraber: is edubuntu doing anything interesting with LTSP soon? | 16:05 |
stgraber | Daviey: I still need to test the current upstream and upload ltsp and ldm then | 16:06 |
Daviey | stgraber: do you have an ETA? | 16:06 |
stgraber | Daviey: the current version has been patched to work for both Edubuntu and Ubuntu (cherry-pick of a commit upstream) | 16:06 |
stgraber | Daviey: hopefully by end of year, LTSP is mostly done on my spare time | 16:07 |
stgraber | I can easily push a new upstream, but after our hackfest in October, a good part of the initrd scripts and init scripts have been changed in a radical way | 16:07 |
Daviey | rocking! Thanks st | 16:08 |
Daviey | stgraber* | 16:08 |
stgraber | I want to make sure we actually want that for the LTS and that it's going to be supportable for 5 years | 16:08 |
* skaet going to wait for the .. this time before going on ;) | 16:08 | |
stgraber | otherwise, I may just end up cherry picking some bugfixes and stick with what we have now (which at lesat works) | 16:08 |
stgraber | .. | 16:08 |
Daviey | stgraber: /me has interest.. so please ping me if you want a tester | 16:08 |
Daviey | .. | 16:08 |
skaet | :) | 16:09 |
skaet | thanks guys... | 16:09 |
skaet | [TOPIC] Hardware Certification team update - mlegris | 16:09 |
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brendand | skaet - i'll take this | 16:09 |
skaet | thanks brendand :) | 16:09 |
brendand | == What was done engineering wise? == | 16:09 |
brendand | Testing of the Alpha 1 image on a select batch of systems in the Hardware Certification labs: | 16:09 |
brendand | http://people.canonical.com/~hwcert/precise-testing/precise_alpha1.html | 16:09 |
brendand | With holidays, not many systems have been tested yet, but no significant issues found on the ones tested so far. | 16:09 |
brendand | == What's about to land that might impact the other teams? == | 16:09 |
brendand | Nothing significant. One bug located, but it does not block the system from being certified: | 16:09 |
brendand | https://launchpad.net/bugs/904844 ([Dell Latitude 2110] Screen is blank after restoring from hibernate) | 16:09 |
ubottu | Ubuntu bug 904844 in linux (Ubuntu) "[Dell Latitude 2110] Screen is blank after restoring from hibernate" [Medium,Incomplete] | 16:09 |
brendand | == Summary of bugs working on by team (reasonably reliable) == | 16:09 |
brendand | Nothing that we are working on specifically. Everything is ok certification infrastructure wise. | 16:09 |
brendand | == Dependencies on other teams, blocking items == | 16:09 |
brendand | Nothing | 16:09 |
brendand | == Issues? == | 16:10 |
brendand | None | 16:10 |
Daviey | brendand: sevrers reliably booting? | 16:10 |
Daviey | servers* | 16:10 |
brendand | Daviey - haven't got around to them yet, sorry | 16:11 |
brendand | .. | 16:11 |
brendand | Daviey - you can see the ones we will be testing there on the report | 16:11 |
Daviey | ta | 16:11 |
skaet | brendand, has anyone checked if oneiric failures are in precise too? | 16:11 |
brendand | skaet - i think there are some systems we'll be testing that had serious failures in oneiric. they haven't been tested yet though | 16:12 |
skaet | brendand, thanks. please flag it to me as soon as you know for sure. | 16:12 |
brendand | skaet - yep | 16:13 |
skaet | :) | 16:13 |
Daviey | brendand: we could really do with early warning of pluming issues :) | 16:13 |
* skaet not seeing other questions, so onwards... | 16:13 | |
skaet | [TOPIC] QA team update - jibel | 16:13 |
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jibel | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2011-December/000612.html | 16:14 |
jibel | anyone have questions ? | 16:14 |
skaet | Thanks jibel. Right now, enjoying watching the new infrastructure emerge. :D | 16:14 |
jibel | we do too :) | 16:15 |
skaet | [TOPIC] Security team Q&A - mdeslaur | 16:15 |
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mdeslaur | hi! | 16:15 |
mdeslaur | [LINK] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2011-December/000602.html | 16:15 |
mdeslaur | The security team has been busy doing reactive work. No significant progress | 16:15 |
mdeslaur | on work items to report. | 16:15 |
mdeslaur | That's all. Any questions? | 16:15 |
skaet | Thansk mdeslaur, who's the contact if there's a security isue over the holiday? | 16:16 |
mdeslaur | You can email security@ubuntu.com. I'm only off between xmas and new year's, but will be checking in. | 16:16 |
skaet | Thanks! :) | 16:17 |
skaet | [TOPIC] Kernel team Q&A - ogasawara | 16:17 |
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ogasawara | [LINK] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2011-December/000601.html | 16:17 |
ogasawara | I covered everything I needed to in my email. I would just also note that a large portion of the team is beginning their end of year holidays soon, so they may be unreachable starting next week. Any questions? | 16:17 |
ogasawara | .. | 16:17 |
skaet | Thanks ogasawara. :) | 16:17 |
* skaet doesn't have questions from the email. | 16:18 | |
skaet | [TOPIC] Foundations team Q&A - cjwatson | 16:18 |
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cjwatson | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2011-December/000599.html | 16:18 |
cjwatson | I followed up to my own mail with a couple of amendments as well | 16:18 |
* skaet nods | 16:18 | |
cjwatson | like others, many of our team will be drifting away on holiday over the next week, of course | 16:18 |
cjwatson | the big news from today is that the archive publisher is now running every 30 minutes, after a lot of hard work on optimisation | 16:19 |
stgraber | yeah! | 16:19 |
skaet | WOOT!!! | 16:19 |
pitti | wow! congrats! | 16:19 |
Daviey | \o/ | 16:19 |
cjwatson | .. | 16:19 |
ogra_ | wohoo | 16:19 |
skaet | Thanks cjwatson! awesome news about the publisher! | 16:19 |
skaet | will there be +1 maintenance team coverage during the week between christmas and new year? | 16:19 |
cjwatson | hopefully it'll stay that way; it may miss the odd run | 16:19 |
pitti | skaet: very little from my side, I'm afraid | 16:20 |
cjwatson | at least until bug 905333 is fixed | 16:20 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 905333 in Launchpad itself "Ubuntu publisher should trigger scandium in the background" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/905333 | 16:20 |
cjwatson | skaet: that's pitti's area this month | 16:20 |
cjwatson | I'll be around a bit and will try to keep an eye on anything archive-threatening | 16:20 |
pitti | I'll try to have a look every now and then, but I won't be able to sit down for hours to debug stuff | 16:20 |
cjwatson | no guarantees over the holidays though | 16:20 |
skaet | cjwatson, gotcha. pitti, thanks. okie, expectations set. :) | 16:20 |
pitti | I'm happy to do the odd binary promotion or package rebuild etc. | 16:20 |
cjwatson | likewise | 16:21 |
pitti | but in general, Don't Break The Damn Thing over the holidays, please | 16:21 |
cjwatson | or if you do, fix it ... | 16:21 |
* skaet nods emphatically | 16:21 | |
cjwatson | mind you, I'll still be running auto-imports from time to time | 16:21 |
Daviey | then write a test case. | 16:21 |
cjwatson | so bear that in mind | 16:21 |
pitti | cjwatson: yeah, those caused quite a lot of damage, so we need to watch out for those | 16:21 |
pitti | we had two cases in teh last week alone | 16:21 |
cjwatson | I'll try not to do it and then go away for the day :) | 16:22 |
skaet | [TOPIC] Server team Q&A - Daviey | 16:22 |
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Daviey | Oh hello | 16:23 |
Daviey | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2011-December/000611.html | 16:23 |
Daviey | Any questions? :) | 16:23 |
skaet | Thanks Daviey! | 16:24 |
Daviey | anyone? :( | 16:24 |
skaet | servercloud-LTS-hardening; servercloud-service-orchestration workitems haven't budged in terms of tracking. symptom of churn going on, or just needs updating? catch up by A2 possible? | 16:24 |
* Daviey lookies | 16:24 | |
* skaet didn't want Daviey sad. ;) | 16:24 | |
Daviey | The status could be clearer, but there is a bulk of blocked items | 16:25 |
skaet | also wondering will arosales be joining us, or will you continue to cover the entire server team? | 16:26 |
Daviey | Som eof the blocked items will updated or dropped i sspect | 16:27 |
Daviey | The boot time profiling needs further discussion to avoid duplication with desktop team | 16:27 |
* skaet nods | 16:27 | |
Daviey | skaet: I'll sync with him.. and update soon. | 16:27 |
skaet | ok, will check back with you on the boot time profiling in the new year. | 16:28 |
skaet | thanks Daviey! :) | 16:28 |
Daviey | super. | 16:28 |
skaet | [TOPIC] ARM team Q&A- ogra_ | 16:28 |
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Daviey | np o/ | 16:28 |
ogra_ | hey, thats me ! | 16:28 |
ogra_ | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2011-December/000616.html | 16:28 |
ogra_ | questions ? | 16:29 |
skaet | Thanks ogra_! glad to hear all is well with armhf images. :) | 16:30 |
ogra_ | yeah :) | 16:30 |
skaet | how do they compare in terms of build time with armel? | 16:30 |
pitti | well, except for them failing to build due to LibO? | 16:30 |
ogra_ | we never seeded LibO | 16:30 |
ogra_ | ;) | 16:30 |
pitti | hm, I get failed armhf image build mail every day | 16:30 |
pitti | but maybe that was a flavour | 16:30 |
pitti | so, ignore me | 16:30 |
ogra_ | from kubuntu | 16:30 |
ogra_ | they should probably temporary unseed it | 16:31 |
ogra_ | skaet, build time is identical | 16:31 |
ogra_ | they *feel* a lot faster on the desktop ... but thats a subjective impression | 16:31 |
ogra_ | (though i hear others say that as well ... ) | 16:32 |
ogra_ | .. | 16:32 |
skaet | ogra_ ok thanks. I'll chat with you about it more after meeting. | 16:32 |
ogra_ | k | 16:32 |
skaet | Daviey, did you want us to pause, or just signalling done with the o/ earlier? | 16:32 |
skaet | if so add comment/ask question. ;) | 16:33 |
Daviey | done earlier | 16:33 |
Daviey | sorry. | 16:33 |
skaet | np, just confused and didn't want to be rude. ;) | 16:33 |
skaet | [TOPIC] Linaro team Q&A - fabo | 16:34 |
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fabo | o/ | 16:34 |
* skaet not seeing fabo in channel, moving on. | 16:34 | |
skaet | oh, can't see I guess :) | 16:34 |
fabo | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2011-December/000600.html | 16:34 |
fabo | .. | 16:34 |
skaet | Thanks fabo! sorry about that. | 16:34 |
fabo | np :) | 16:34 |
dbarth | o/ | 16:35 |
skaet | go ahead dbarth | 16:35 |
dbarth | fabo: can you point me at the latest / official branches you want us to merge in? | 16:35 |
dbarth | i've seen one updated 12h ago | 16:35 |
dbarth | fabo: can we see that on the linaro channel? | 16:35 |
fabo | dbarth: sure, I'll reply on the list. I don't know on the top of my head. | 16:36 |
dbarth | ok | 16:36 |
fabo | .. | 16:37 |
skaet | fabo, is there a contact over the holidays for problems? | 16:37 |
fabo | skaet: I'm around. you can contact me and I'll raise as appropriate. | 16:37 |
skaet | coolio, Thanks fabo! :) | 16:38 |
skaet | [TOPIC] Ubuntu One Team Q&A - joshuahoover | 16:38 |
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skaet | ok, I've double checked ;) and don't see him. moving on. | 16:39 |
skaet | [TOPIC] Desktop Team Q&A - pitti | 16:39 |
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pitti | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2011-December/000610.html | 16:39 |
pitti | nothing to add really | 16:39 |
pitti | oh, except perhaps that bug 902553 is apparently still not fixed for all corner cases | 16:39 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 902553 in perl (Ubuntu Precise) "package doc-base 0.10.3 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: /usr/bin/perl: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/perl5/auto/UUID/UUID.so: undefined symbol: Perl_xs_apiversion_bootcheck" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/902553 | 16:40 |
pitti | currently discussing this with the Debian Perl maintainer | 16:40 |
pitti | but I'll get to take 4 next Monday | 16:40 |
pitti | questions? | 16:40 |
pitti | .. | 16:40 |
skaet | Thanks pitti! none from me. :) | 16:40 |
* skaet doesn't see any emerging hands, so moving on. | 16:41 | |
skaet | [TOPIC] DX Team Q&A - dbarth | 16:41 |
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dbarth | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/ReleaseStatus | 16:41 |
dbarth | the significant part is the SRU candidate we've wrapped this week | 16:41 |
dbarth | it prepares for the january uploads and can help validate fixes on the stable release | 16:42 |
dbarth | it's *not* pushed to proposed though, to avoid brown paper issues while everyone's away | 16:42 |
dbarth | it's in the desktop-team ppa | 16:42 |
dbarth | .. | 16:42 |
skaet | Thanks dbarth! appreciate the hold off. | 16:43 |
skaet | any questions? | 16:43 |
skaet | [TOPIC] Desktop Systems Team Q&A - olli | 16:44 |
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skaet | welcome olli! :) | 16:44 |
olli | hi there | 16:45 |
olli | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2011-December/000609.html | 16:45 |
olli | in addition, we have been focusing on libido bugs LP #524541 LP #886335 and LP #898611 | 16:45 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 524541 in ido (Ubuntu) "Volume (slider) item isn't highlighted when selected" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/524541 | 16:45 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 886335 in The Sound Menu "Unable to use arrow keys to adjust the volume control in the sound menu." [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/886335 | 16:45 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 898611 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "Slider shouldn't increase by steps" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/898611 | 16:45 |
olli | other than that it's been a quiet week due to a sprint and holidays | 16:45 |
olli | any questions | 16:45 |
skaet | Thanks olli. no questions from me. | 16:46 |
skaet | [TOPIC] Kubuntu Team Q&A - Riddell | 16:47 |
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Riddell | hi | 16:47 |
Riddell | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2011-December/000605.html | 16:48 |
Riddell | .. | 16:48 |
skaet | Thanks Riddell. any one have questions? | 16:48 |
skaet | [TOPIC] Xubuntu Team Q&A - madnick | 16:48 |
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madnick | hi | 16:48 |
madnick | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2011-December/000603.html | 16:48 |
madnick | that is pretty much it :) | 16:49 |
madnick | .. | 16:49 |
skaet | Thansk madnick. :) | 16:49 |
skaet | [TOPIC] Ubuntu Studio Team Q&A - scott-work | 16:50 |
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skaet | hmm, not in channel. | 16:50 |
skaet | [TOPIC] Lubuntu Team Q&A - gilir | 16:51 |
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gilir | hi :) | 16:51 |
skaet | :) | 16:51 |
gilir | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2011-December/000607.html | 16:51 |
gilir | .. | 16:51 |
skaet | Thanks gilir. :) | 16:52 |
skaet | [TOPIC] Any other business, comments, questions thought of after session passed: ? | 16:52 |
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skaet | Comment: some late arrivals in ubuntu-release mail list held up by membership (all who want to post there are welcome and encouraged to join the mailing list) . Please see doko's post on the mail list. | 16:53 |
skaet | Comment: Just wanted to wish everyone an enjoyable holiday break with their friends and family! Very much looking forward to working with all of you in 2012!! | 16:54 |
skaet | Thank you for your participation in these meetings stgraber, brendand, jibel, mdeslaur, ogasawara, cjwatson, ogra_, fabo, joshhuahoover, pitti, dbarth, olli, Riddell, madnick, gilir :) | 16:54 |
skaet | #endmeeting | 16:54 |
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meetingology | Meeting ended Fri Dec 16 16:54:25 2011 UTC. | 16:54 |
meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-12-16-16.01.moin.txt | 16:54 |
pitti | thanks! | 16:54 |
pitti | so, happy christmas holidays everyoen | 16:54 |
jibel_ | thanks | 16:54 |
ogra_ | thanks skaet | 16:55 |
s-fox | 4 minutes to go until the meeting | 21:56 |
s-fox | Just waiting for the rest of the FC atm | 22:01 |
s-fox | Hello moergaes :) | 22:01 |
moergaes | Hello s.fox | 22:02 |
moergaes | My first meeting here. | 22:02 |
s-fox | \o/ | 22:02 |
moergaes | :-) | 22:02 |
s-fox | Okay, I guess we should start. | 22:03 |
Artificial_Intel | hello | 22:03 |
Artificial_Intel | who's present? | 22:03 |
moergaes | Mörgæs | 22:04 |
s-fox | cariboo907, overdrank , moergaes and myself | 22:04 |
s-fox | and you | 22:04 |
s-fox | bodhi , joeb, baps and iowan are not here | 22:04 |
s-fox | :( | 22:04 |
s-fox | should we start Artificial_Intel? | 22:04 |
Artificial_Intel | can we take any decision when most of the FC is away? | 22:04 |
s-fox | Nope :/ | 22:05 |
Artificial_Intel | ah | 22:05 |
s-fox | We have some discussion things though we could do | 22:05 |
Artificial_Intel | ok, I'm ready | 22:05 |
s-fox | #startmeeting | 22:05 |
meetingology | Meeting started Fri Dec 16 22:05:29 2011 UTC. The chair is s-fox. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot. | 22:05 |
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MrChrisDruif | What meeting is this? | 22:05 |
s-fox | FC meeting | 22:05 |
MrChrisDruif | And that is? | 22:06 |
s-fox | [TOPIC] Ubuntu Forums Council Meeting | 22:06 |
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s-fox | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ForumCouncilAgenda | 22:06 |
s-fox | Okay, the first thing is the ripfox ban. we need to vote on it, so perhaps move om | 22:07 |
MrChrisDruif | Alright, I'll just lurk | 22:07 |
Artificial_Intel | We can't take a decision on that without the others, I agree | 22:07 |
s-fox | Fancy going over the sub-forums request Artificial_Intel? | 22:08 |
Artificial_Intel | aye, I got some stuff on that topic | 22:08 |
s-fox | Okay :) | 22:08 |
s-fox | [TOPIC] Buffalo Solider sub-forum request | 22:08 |
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s-fox | Personally speaking I don't object to any of the sub-forums being created | 22:09 |
Artificial_Intel | We actually have two request from companies, so lets put them together. | 22:09 |
s-fox | +1, sounds good. | 22:09 |
s-fox | That would be za-reason right? | 22:09 |
Artificial_Intel | aye | 22:09 |
cariboo907 | Wouldn't it be better if both of them went through Canonical? | 22:09 |
s-fox | Couldn't we put them where system76 is/ | 22:10 |
Artificial_Intel | I was thinking a little re-structure of the forum regarding pre-installed and the alike support forums. | 22:11 |
s-fox | How do you mean cariboo907? I thought za-reason had already approached canonical | 22:11 |
s-fox | Artificial_Intel, Would you have all the pre-install in one sub-forum ? | 22:12 |
cariboo907 | When that Dell salesman tried to start a thread, we referred him to Canonical | 22:12 |
s-fox | Hmm, that is a fair point cariboo907. Maybe we should point them to canonical | 22:13 |
Artificial_Intel | I agree, companies need approval first from canonical before we make a support forum for them. | 22:13 |
s-fox | In terms of buffalo soldier, he should get his site setup before we do anything | 22:14 |
s-fox | I also notice he has not been on the forum since he made the request. Perhaps see's it as "free advertising" ? | 22:14 |
Artificial_Intel | But my restructure proposal is for the longer term when we get a lot more of this. | 22:14 |
s-fox | Yea, I think if we were to restructure we should get the input from the others | 22:15 |
moergaes | In the thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1895853 , most seem to agree. | 22:16 |
* s-fox nods, but shouldn't za-reason contact canonical ? | 22:17 | |
cariboo907 | Artificial_Intel, didn't your restructure request get approved, then ignored? | 22:17 |
Artificial_Intel | that was the gaming forum restructure, yes it was approved and ignored (or forgotten) | 22:18 |
s-fox | Does it still need to be done? | 22:19 |
* s-fox thinks Artificial_Intel has the tools to do the job ;) | 22:19 | |
Artificial_Intel | Well, I could do it myself :P | 22:19 |
s-fox | Okay, the ubuntu pre-install restructure does sound like the way forward (to me anyway). Perhaps we should start a thread discussing in with the rest of the staff? | 22:20 |
Artificial_Intel | aye | 22:20 |
s-fox | I know the one moergaes linked is za-reason, but this is more generic. | 22:20 |
* cariboo907 says +1 | 22:20 | |
s-fox | [VOTE] Discuss ubuntu pre-install sub-forum restructure in the staff area | 22:21 |
meetingology | Please vote on: Discuss ubuntu pre-install sub-forum restructure in the staff area | 22:21 |
meetingology | Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) | 22:21 |
s-fox | +1 | 22:21 |
meetingology | +1 received from s-fox | 22:21 |
Artificial_Intel | +1 | 22:21 |
meetingology | +1 received from Artificial_Intel | 22:21 |
cariboo907 | +1 | 22:21 |
meetingology | +1 received from cariboo907 | 22:21 |
s-fox | moergaes :) | 22:21 |
moergaes | +1 | 22:21 |
meetingology | +1 received from moergaes | 22:21 |
s-fox | [ENDVOTE] | 22:22 |
meetingology | Voting ended on: Discuss ubuntu pre-install sub-forum restructure in the staff area | 22:22 |
meetingology | Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 | 22:22 |
meetingology | Motion carried | 22:22 |
s-fox | [ACTION] Create the discussion thread for more input | 22:22 |
meetingology | ACTION: Create the discussion thread for more input | 22:22 |
s-fox | Oh wait, that should have been agreed. | 22:22 |
s-fox | *sigh | 22:22 |
Artificial_Intel | about the gaming structure, I'll look at it in the holydays | 22:22 |
s-fox | [AGREED] Create the discussion thread for more input | 22:22 |
s-fox | Okay Artificial_Intel, sounds good to me :) | 22:23 |
s-fox | Next item is the Community Council Meeting | 22:23 |
s-fox | [TOPIC] Representative for CC meeting | 22:23 |
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s-fox | I cannot make it, the time is wrong. | 22:24 |
s-fox | It is to early for me. 17:00 UTC | 22:24 |
s-fox | Can you make it Artificial_Intel? | 22:24 |
Artificial_Intel | I'm at work at the time. | 22:24 |
Artificial_Intel | *that | 22:24 |
s-fox | Okay, so it will probably have to be Joeb454 or baps that goes. I think the time is super difficult for bodhi and jdong | 22:25 |
Artificial_Intel | baps from France, so she's properly at work too | 22:25 |
s-fox | Yeah, but it would be 6 for her. I am still at work for another hour | 22:26 |
s-fox | Maybe we should contact the CC and see if they can move the time a little ? | 22:26 |
Artificial_Intel | worth a try | 22:27 |
s-fox | Okay, if baps and / or Joeb454 can't make it either we will contact them. I have Laura's email | 22:27 |
s-fox | I guess we could move onto Community Building Ideas | 22:28 |
s-fox | [TOPIC] Community Building Ideas | 22:28 |
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Artificial_Intel | link? | 22:29 |
s-fox | I think we should create the ubuntu forums team | 22:29 |
czajkowski | s-fox: Joeb454 said he'd make the meeting, the meeting is at 5pm UTC can't be changed I'm afraid | 22:29 |
s-fox | czajkowski, Can the day be changed to say a weekend? | 22:29 |
s-fox | czajkowski, Thanks for the info on joeb | 22:29 |
czajkowski | no I'm afriad not it happens during the CC meeting, which is kinda fixed tbh given 8 folks on multiple timezones | 22:30 |
s-fox | Okay. | 22:30 |
s-fox | I would like to revive my suggestion from ages ago about a forums team. I have the link somewhere, let me find :) | 22:31 |
Artificial_Intel | ghost from the past :P | 22:31 |
s-fox | [LINK] ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1741789 | 22:31 |
s-fox | It had a lot of discussion, get some team spirit going and not just people on their own | 22:32 |
s-fox | Welcome howefield :) | 22:32 |
howefield | hey :) | 22:32 |
cariboo907 | s-fox, your link is broken | 22:33 |
moergaes | Worked fine for me. | 22:33 |
s-fox | works for me too ? | 22:33 |
s-fox | Artificial_Intel, Link work for you? | 22:34 |
Artificial_Intel | aye | 22:34 |
cariboo907 | It must just be me :( | 22:34 |
s-fox | Maybe we should just bump it up in the staff area ;) | 22:34 |
Artificial_Intel | As I understands it; Some kind of Super dedicated members to help out helping people? | 22:35 |
s-fox | I seem to recall bodhi wanting to lighten the mood on the forum with a theme week :) | 22:35 |
s-fox | Artificial_Intel, Pretty much. You remember the hardware / unanswered posts / beginners team ? | 22:35 |
s-fox | Well imagine all them rolled into one | 22:36 |
Artificial_Intel | aye | 22:36 |
Artificial_Intel | Sounds reasonable. | 22:36 |
s-fox | I think they could be revived under one banner | 22:36 |
s-fox | I'll bump it up :) | 22:37 |
Artificial_Intel | I'll +1 it | 22:38 |
s-fox | I do have one item that is not on the agenda concerning the forum upgrade. | 22:38 |
s-fox | Artificial_Intel, Did you see the emails I have been forwarding? | 22:38 |
s-fox | We need to establish how many people only use the openid login | 22:38 |
s-fox | I am not sure where to look to find out, but eliott wants to know | 22:38 |
Artificial_Intel | that's going to be difficult | 22:39 |
s-fox | Probably yes :/ | 22:39 |
s-fox | I know going down for the upgrade is not going to be a problem. | 22:40 |
Artificial_Intel | those who uses OpenID, don't they have alternative to login untill the forum plugin is resolved? | 22:40 |
s-fox | We can let people know in advance | 22:40 |
s-fox | I think they would need to register like normal user Artificial_Intel. | 22:41 |
cariboo907 | I don't use it, because the remember me feature doesn't work | 22:41 |
s-fox | And you can guarantee someone will complain :/ | 22:41 |
Artificial_Intel | There's always someone that complain, it's human nature. | 22:42 |
s-fox | +1 | 22:42 |
s-fox | You got anything to discuss Artificial_Intel , cariboo907, moergaes & howefield ? | 22:42 |
Artificial_Intel | or any complains? ;) | 22:43 |
moergaes | No, I am mostly just following what's going on. | 22:43 |
cariboo907 | nothing here | 22:43 |
howefield | likewise | 22:43 |
s-fox | Okay, think might end the meeting early. It's late friday night for me :) | 22:44 |
s-fox | Sorry only 2 of the FC came :/ | 22:44 |
s-fox | But thanks for coming everyone else :) | 22:44 |
moergaes | Thanks for being invited, though not being a council member. | 22:44 |
Artificial_Intel | good to see some staff at the meeting | 22:44 |
s-fox | Yep | 22:45 |
howefield | thanks to the 2 who did turn up | 22:45 |
s-fox | I like having the staff around :) | 22:45 |
s-fox | #endmeeting | 22:45 |
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meetingology | Meeting ended Fri Dec 16 22:45:50 2011 UTC. | 22:45 |
meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-12-16-22.05.moin.txt | 22:45 |
s-fox | I just ended the meeting | 22:45 |
Artificial_Intel | Now free bar! :D | 22:46 |
s-fox | Joeb454 is paying. | 22:46 |
s-fox | :D | 22:46 |
Artificial_Intel | \o/ | 22:46 |
Artificial_Intel | night folks | 22:47 |
s-fox | See you all | 22:48 |
moergaes | Bye | 22:48 |
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