[00:02] no kdub? [00:03] doesn't look like it [00:03] he's in my loco team, I'll touch base out of meeting [00:03] and no juanmarquez either [00:03] short meeting indeed! [00:03] we'll hang around for 20 minutes in case anyone shows up :) [00:04] ah, juanmarquez is already a member! [00:05] <[N]> JuanMarquez was already an Ubuntu Member. His membership accidentally expired though. I have gone ahead and renewed it for him [00:05] the shortest meeting? [00:05] thanks [N] [00:15] can i ask for info here?,i would like to apply for membership but i dont know if i have contributed enough, you can see my wiki page here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/trinikrono [00:15] ok, doesn't look like he'll be coming, have nice holidays everyone :) [00:16] trinikrono, hi [00:16] sure, let me look [00:16] pleia2, o/ [00:16] <[N]> trinikrono: My best piece of advice (and what I did myself) is to look through the logs from some of the prior meetings and look at the people who applied. You can get a pretty good idea about what we are looking for and determine if you are ready. [00:17] trinikrono, how many people are in the LoCo? [00:17] trinikrono: I'd list any events your loco team has done, if any, if you haven't done any I'd work to start planning stuff [00:18] (setting up a loco is great work! but the next step to have events is important :)) [00:18] ah in the application itself [00:18] argh! sorry sorry!!! I'm late! [00:18] yes we had a few but i did not put them there [00:18] cyphermox: it's ok, no meeting :) [00:18] trinikrono: ah, I'd add the events and what your role was (organizer? volunteer?) [00:18] ah ;) [00:19] yes ill work on the application and read some of the past applications [00:19] trinikrono: you have to add t info about the events ) [00:19] i thought i would see one tonight lol [00:19] trinikrono, yeah, I think you could expand your application a bit, but all in all, it's worth expanding ti and applying, that's for sure [00:20] :D thank you then, ill see if i get everything ready for the next one === bladernr_afk is now known as bladernr_ === bladernr_ is now known as bladernr_afk === yofel_ is now known as yofel === bladernr_afk is now known as bladernr_ === bladernr_ is now known as bladernr_afk [15:59] * skaet waves [15:59] o/ [16:00] \o [16:00] hi [16:00] ☃ [16:00] seeing familiar faces in the channel, so time to start. :) [16:00] Hi o/ [16:00] \o [16:00] hi o/ [16:01] #startmeeting [16:01] Meeting started Fri Dec 16 16:01:05 2011 UTC. The chair is skaet. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot. [16:01] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [16:01] [TOPIC] Release general overview - skaet [16:01] Agenda can be found: [16:01] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2011-12-16 [16:01] Individual team status links will be added to it from: [16:01] [LINK] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2011-December/thread.html === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Release general overview - skaet [16:01] Team status' submitted by EOD Thursday have already been linked to the agenda, others will be added after the meeting. [16:01] o/ [16:01] . [16:01] Schedule for this release will be at: [16:01] [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule [16:01] [link] http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars/ubuntu-release-calendar/ [16:01] . [16:01] There are now 2319 work items (up from last week, was 2084 on 2011/11/25), and we're falling above the trend line for features on some projects. [16:01] Please review your tasks and make sure status is accurate before the new year. [16:01] [link] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/ [16:01] . [16:01] Bugs committed to be fixed by the engineering teams can be found: [16:01] #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/kernel-bugs/reports/rls-p-tracking-bugs.html [16:01] Bugs that you would like the engineering teams to consider for fixing, should be assigned to specific teams, so they can be found. [16:01] . [16:01] Upcoming Dates: [16:01] • 2011/12/16 - Last meeting of 2011 - best wishes for the holiday break! [16:02] • 2012/01/06 - Weekly meetings resume [16:02] • 2012/01/09 - DebianImportFreeze [16:02] • 2012/02/02 - '''Alpha 2''' [16:02] . [16:02] IS and stgraber have worked through the glitches, and the updated http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ is now operational. :) Daily testing results and bugs can now be logged there now going forward. [16:02] .. [16:02] any questions before we start in to round table? [16:03] (no) [16:04] stgraber needs to go early, and want to welcome olli to the round table this time. :) [16:04] thanks for the no Daviey :) [16:04] [TOPIC] Edubuntu Team Q&A - stgraber === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Edubuntu Team Q&A - stgraber [16:04] * stgraber waves [16:04] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2011-December/000604.html [16:05] Thanks stgraber. anyone have questions today? [16:05] I'm still testing the new casper but so far everything looks good, let me know if it's breaking for your flavour. [16:05] stgraber: is edubuntu doing anything interesting with LTSP soon? [16:06] Daviey: I still need to test the current upstream and upload ltsp and ldm then [16:06] stgraber: do you have an ETA? [16:06] Daviey: the current version has been patched to work for both Edubuntu and Ubuntu (cherry-pick of a commit upstream) [16:07] Daviey: hopefully by end of year, LTSP is mostly done on my spare time [16:07] I can easily push a new upstream, but after our hackfest in October, a good part of the initrd scripts and init scripts have been changed in a radical way [16:08] rocking! Thanks st [16:08] stgraber* [16:08] I want to make sure we actually want that for the LTS and that it's going to be supportable for 5 years [16:08] * skaet going to wait for the .. this time before going on ;) [16:08] otherwise, I may just end up cherry picking some bugfixes and stick with what we have now (which at lesat works) [16:08] .. [16:08] stgraber: /me has interest.. so please ping me if you want a tester [16:08] .. [16:09] :) [16:09] thanks guys... [16:09] [TOPIC] Hardware Certification team update - mlegris === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Hardware Certification team update - mlegris [16:09] skaet - i'll take this [16:09] thanks brendand :) [16:09] == What was done engineering wise? == [16:09] Testing of the Alpha 1 image on a select batch of systems in the Hardware Certification labs: [16:09] http://people.canonical.com/~hwcert/precise-testing/precise_alpha1.html [16:09] With holidays, not many systems have been tested yet, but no significant issues found on the ones tested so far. [16:09] == What's about to land that might impact the other teams? == [16:09] Nothing significant. One bug located, but it does not block the system from being certified: [16:09] https://launchpad.net/bugs/904844 ([Dell Latitude 2110] Screen is blank after restoring from hibernate) [16:09] Ubuntu bug 904844 in linux (Ubuntu) "[Dell Latitude 2110] Screen is blank after restoring from hibernate" [Medium,Incomplete] [16:09] == Summary of bugs working on by team (reasonably reliable) == [16:09] Nothing that we are working on specifically. Everything is ok certification infrastructure wise. [16:09] == Dependencies on other teams, blocking items == [16:09] Nothing [16:10] == Issues? == [16:10] None [16:10] brendand: sevrers reliably booting? [16:10] servers* [16:11] Daviey - haven't got around to them yet, sorry [16:11] .. [16:11] Daviey - you can see the ones we will be testing there on the report [16:11] ta [16:11] brendand, has anyone checked if oneiric failures are in precise too? [16:12] skaet - i think there are some systems we'll be testing that had serious failures in oneiric. they haven't been tested yet though [16:12] brendand, thanks. please flag it to me as soon as you know for sure. [16:13] skaet - yep [16:13] :) [16:13] brendand: we could really do with early warning of pluming issues :) [16:13] * skaet not seeing other questions, so onwards... [16:13] [TOPIC] QA team update - jibel === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: QA team update - jibel [16:14] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2011-December/000612.html [16:14] anyone have questions ? [16:14] Thanks jibel. Right now, enjoying watching the new infrastructure emerge. :D [16:15] we do too :) [16:15] [TOPIC] Security team Q&A - mdeslaur === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Security team Q&A - mdeslaur [16:15] hi! [16:15] [LINK] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2011-December/000602.html [16:15] The security team has been busy doing reactive work. No significant progress [16:15] on work items to report. [16:15] That's all. Any questions? [16:16] Thansk mdeslaur, who's the contact if there's a security isue over the holiday? [16:16] You can email security@ubuntu.com. I'm only off between xmas and new year's, but will be checking in. [16:17] Thanks! :) [16:17] [TOPIC] Kernel team Q&A - ogasawara === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Kernel team Q&A - ogasawara [16:17] [LINK] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2011-December/000601.html [16:17] I covered everything I needed to in my email. I would just also note that a large portion of the team is beginning their end of year holidays soon, so they may be unreachable starting next week. Any questions? [16:17] .. [16:17] Thanks ogasawara. :) [16:18] * skaet doesn't have questions from the email. [16:18] [TOPIC] Foundations team Q&A - cjwatson === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Foundations team Q&A - cjwatson [16:18] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2011-December/000599.html [16:18] I followed up to my own mail with a couple of amendments as well [16:18] * skaet nods [16:18] like others, many of our team will be drifting away on holiday over the next week, of course [16:19] the big news from today is that the archive publisher is now running every 30 minutes, after a lot of hard work on optimisation [16:19] yeah! [16:19] WOOT!!! [16:19] wow! congrats! [16:19] \o/ [16:19] .. [16:19] wohoo [16:19] Thanks cjwatson! awesome news about the publisher! [16:19] will there be +1 maintenance team coverage during the week between christmas and new year? [16:19] hopefully it'll stay that way; it may miss the odd run [16:20] skaet: very little from my side, I'm afraid [16:20] at least until bug 905333 is fixed [16:20] Launchpad bug 905333 in Launchpad itself "Ubuntu publisher should trigger scandium in the background" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/905333 [16:20] skaet: that's pitti's area this month [16:20] I'll be around a bit and will try to keep an eye on anything archive-threatening [16:20] I'll try to have a look every now and then, but I won't be able to sit down for hours to debug stuff [16:20] no guarantees over the holidays though [16:20] cjwatson, gotcha. pitti, thanks. okie, expectations set. :) [16:20] I'm happy to do the odd binary promotion or package rebuild etc. [16:21] likewise [16:21] but in general, Don't Break The Damn Thing over the holidays, please [16:21] or if you do, fix it ... [16:21] * skaet nods emphatically [16:21] mind you, I'll still be running auto-imports from time to time [16:21] then write a test case. [16:21] so bear that in mind [16:21] cjwatson: yeah, those caused quite a lot of damage, so we need to watch out for those [16:21] we had two cases in teh last week alone [16:22] I'll try not to do it and then go away for the day :) [16:22] [TOPIC] Server team Q&A - Daviey === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Server team Q&A - Daviey [16:23] Oh hello [16:23] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2011-December/000611.html [16:23] Any questions? :) [16:24] Thanks Daviey! [16:24] anyone? :( [16:24] servercloud-LTS-hardening; servercloud-service-orchestration workitems haven't budged in terms of tracking. symptom of churn going on, or just needs updating? catch up by A2 possible? [16:24] * Daviey lookies [16:24] * skaet didn't want Daviey sad. ;) [16:25] The status could be clearer, but there is a bulk of blocked items [16:26] also wondering will arosales be joining us, or will you continue to cover the entire server team? [16:27] Som eof the blocked items will updated or dropped i sspect [16:27] The boot time profiling needs further discussion to avoid duplication with desktop team [16:27] * skaet nods [16:27] skaet: I'll sync with him.. and update soon. [16:28] ok, will check back with you on the boot time profiling in the new year. [16:28] thanks Daviey! :) [16:28] super. [16:28] [TOPIC] ARM team Q&A- ogra_ === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: ARM team Q&A- ogra_ [16:28] np o/ [16:28] hey, thats me ! [16:28] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2011-December/000616.html [16:29] questions ? [16:30] Thanks ogra_! glad to hear all is well with armhf images. :) [16:30] yeah :) [16:30] how do they compare in terms of build time with armel? [16:30] well, except for them failing to build due to LibO? [16:30] we never seeded LibO [16:30] ;) [16:30] hm, I get failed armhf image build mail every day [16:30] but maybe that was a flavour [16:30] so, ignore me [16:30] from kubuntu [16:31] they should probably temporary unseed it [16:31] skaet, build time is identical [16:31] they *feel* a lot faster on the desktop ... but thats a subjective impression [16:32] (though i hear others say that as well ... ) [16:32] .. [16:32] ogra_ ok thanks. I'll chat with you about it more after meeting. [16:32] k [16:32] Daviey, did you want us to pause, or just signalling done with the o/ earlier? [16:33] if so add comment/ask question. ;) [16:33] done earlier [16:33] sorry. [16:33] np, just confused and didn't want to be rude. ;) [16:34] [TOPIC] Linaro team Q&A - fabo === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Linaro team Q&A - fabo [16:34] o/ [16:34] * skaet not seeing fabo in channel, moving on. [16:34] oh, can't see I guess :) [16:34] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2011-December/000600.html [16:34] .. [16:34] Thanks fabo! sorry about that. [16:34] np :) [16:35] o/ [16:35] go ahead dbarth [16:35] fabo: can you point me at the latest / official branches you want us to merge in? [16:35] i've seen one updated 12h ago [16:35] fabo: can we see that on the linaro channel? [16:36] dbarth: sure, I'll reply on the list. I don't know on the top of my head. [16:36] ok [16:37] .. [16:37] fabo, is there a contact over the holidays for problems? [16:37] skaet: I'm around. you can contact me and I'll raise as appropriate. [16:38] coolio, Thanks fabo! :) [16:38] [TOPIC] Ubuntu One Team Q&A - joshuahoover === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu One Team Q&A - joshuahoover [16:39] ok, I've double checked ;) and don't see him. moving on. [16:39] [TOPIC] Desktop Team Q&A - pitti === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Desktop Team Q&A - pitti [16:39] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2011-December/000610.html [16:39] nothing to add really [16:39] oh, except perhaps that bug 902553 is apparently still not fixed for all corner cases [16:40] Launchpad bug 902553 in perl (Ubuntu Precise) "package doc-base 0.10.3 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: /usr/bin/perl: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/perl5/auto/UUID/UUID.so: undefined symbol: Perl_xs_apiversion_bootcheck" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/902553 [16:40] currently discussing this with the Debian Perl maintainer [16:40] but I'll get to take 4 next Monday [16:40] questions? [16:40] .. [16:40] Thanks pitti! none from me. :) [16:41] * skaet doesn't see any emerging hands, so moving on. [16:41] [TOPIC] DX Team Q&A - dbarth === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: DX Team Q&A - dbarth [16:41] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/ReleaseStatus [16:41] the significant part is the SRU candidate we've wrapped this week [16:42] it prepares for the january uploads and can help validate fixes on the stable release [16:42] it's *not* pushed to proposed though, to avoid brown paper issues while everyone's away [16:42] it's in the desktop-team ppa [16:42] .. [16:43] Thanks dbarth! appreciate the hold off. [16:43] any questions? [16:44] [TOPIC] Desktop Systems Team Q&A - olli === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Desktop Systems Team Q&A - olli [16:44] welcome olli! :) [16:45] hi there [16:45] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2011-December/000609.html [16:45] in addition, we have been focusing on libido bugs LP #524541 LP #886335 and LP #898611 [16:45] Launchpad bug 524541 in ido (Ubuntu) "Volume (slider) item isn't highlighted when selected" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/524541 [16:45] Launchpad bug 886335 in The Sound Menu "Unable to use arrow keys to adjust the volume control in the sound menu." [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/886335 [16:45] Launchpad bug 898611 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "Slider shouldn't increase by steps" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/898611 [16:45] other than that it's been a quiet week due to a sprint and holidays [16:45] any questions [16:46] Thanks olli. no questions from me. [16:47] [TOPIC] Kubuntu Team Q&A - Riddell === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Kubuntu Team Q&A - Riddell [16:47] hi [16:48] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2011-December/000605.html [16:48] .. [16:48] Thanks Riddell. any one have questions? [16:48] [TOPIC] Xubuntu Team Q&A - madnick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Xubuntu Team Q&A - madnick [16:48] hi [16:48] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2011-December/000603.html [16:49] that is pretty much it :) [16:49] .. [16:49] Thansk madnick. :) [16:50] [TOPIC] Ubuntu Studio Team Q&A - scott-work === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Studio Team Q&A - scott-work [16:50] hmm, not in channel. [16:51] [TOPIC] Lubuntu Team Q&A - gilir === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Lubuntu Team Q&A - gilir [16:51] hi :) [16:51] :) [16:51] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2011-December/000607.html [16:51] .. [16:52] Thanks gilir. :) [16:52] [TOPIC] Any other business, comments, questions thought of after session passed: ? === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Any other business, comments, questions thought of after session passed: ? [16:53] Comment: some late arrivals in ubuntu-release mail list held up by membership (all who want to post there are welcome and encouraged to join the mailing list) . Please see doko's post on the mail list. [16:54] Comment: Just wanted to wish everyone an enjoyable holiday break with their friends and family! Very much looking forward to working with all of you in 2012!! [16:54] Thank you for your participation in these meetings stgraber, brendand, jibel, mdeslaur, ogasawara, cjwatson, ogra_, fabo, joshhuahoover, pitti, dbarth, olli, Riddell, madnick, gilir :) [16:54] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [16:54] Meeting ended Fri Dec 16 16:54:25 2011 UTC. [16:54] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-12-16-16.01.moin.txt [16:54] thanks! [16:54] so, happy christmas holidays everyoen [16:54] thanks [16:55] thanks skaet [21:56] 4 minutes to go until the meeting [22:01] Just waiting for the rest of the FC atm [22:01] Hello moergaes :) [22:02] Hello s.fox [22:02] My first meeting here. [22:02] \o/ [22:02] :-) [22:03] Okay, I guess we should start. [22:03] hello [22:03] who's present? [22:04] Mörgæs [22:04] cariboo907, overdrank , moergaes and myself [22:04] and you [22:04] bodhi , joeb, baps and iowan are not here [22:04] :( [22:04] should we start Artificial_Intel? [22:04] can we take any decision when most of the FC is away? [22:05] Nope :/ [22:05] ah [22:05] We have some discussion things though we could do [22:05] ok, I'm ready [22:05] #startmeeting [22:05] Meeting started Fri Dec 16 22:05:29 2011 UTC. The chair is s-fox. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot. [22:05] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [22:05] What meeting is this? [22:05] FC meeting [22:06] And that is? [22:06] [TOPIC] Ubuntu Forums Council Meeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Forums Council Meeting [22:06] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ForumCouncilAgenda [22:07] Okay, the first thing is the ripfox ban. we need to vote on it, so perhaps move om [22:07] Alright, I'll just lurk [22:07] We can't take a decision on that without the others, I agree [22:08] Fancy going over the sub-forums request Artificial_Intel? [22:08] aye, I got some stuff on that topic [22:08] Okay :) [22:08] [TOPIC] Buffalo Solider sub-forum request === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Buffalo Solider sub-forum request [22:09] Personally speaking I don't object to any of the sub-forums being created [22:09] We actually have two request from companies, so lets put them together. [22:09] +1, sounds good. [22:09] That would be za-reason right? [22:09] aye [22:09] Wouldn't it be better if both of them went through Canonical? [22:10] Couldn't we put them where system76 is/ [22:11] I was thinking a little re-structure of the forum regarding pre-installed and the alike support forums. [22:11] How do you mean cariboo907? I thought za-reason had already approached canonical [22:12] Artificial_Intel, Would you have all the pre-install in one sub-forum ? [22:12] When that Dell salesman tried to start a thread, we referred him to Canonical [22:13] Hmm, that is a fair point cariboo907. Maybe we should point them to canonical [22:13] I agree, companies need approval first from canonical before we make a support forum for them. [22:14] In terms of buffalo soldier, he should get his site setup before we do anything [22:14] I also notice he has not been on the forum since he made the request. Perhaps see's it as "free advertising" ? [22:14] But my restructure proposal is for the longer term when we get a lot more of this. [22:15] Yea, I think if we were to restructure we should get the input from the others [22:16] In the thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1895853 , most seem to agree. [22:17] * s-fox nods, but shouldn't za-reason contact canonical ? [22:17] Artificial_Intel, didn't your restructure request get approved, then ignored? [22:18] that was the gaming forum restructure, yes it was approved and ignored (or forgotten) [22:19] Does it still need to be done? [22:19] * s-fox thinks Artificial_Intel has the tools to do the job ;) [22:19] Well, I could do it myself :P [22:20] Okay, the ubuntu pre-install restructure does sound like the way forward (to me anyway). Perhaps we should start a thread discussing in with the rest of the staff? [22:20] aye [22:20] I know the one moergaes linked is za-reason, but this is more generic. [22:20] * cariboo907 says +1 [22:21] [VOTE] Discuss ubuntu pre-install sub-forum restructure in the staff area [22:21] Please vote on: Discuss ubuntu pre-install sub-forum restructure in the staff area [22:21] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) [22:21] +1 [22:21] +1 received from s-fox [22:21] +1 [22:21] +1 received from Artificial_Intel [22:21] +1 [22:21] +1 received from cariboo907 [22:21] moergaes :) [22:21] +1 [22:21] +1 received from moergaes [22:22] [ENDVOTE] [22:22] Voting ended on: Discuss ubuntu pre-install sub-forum restructure in the staff area [22:22] Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 [22:22] Motion carried [22:22] [ACTION] Create the discussion thread for more input [22:22] ACTION: Create the discussion thread for more input [22:22] Oh wait, that should have been agreed. [22:22] *sigh [22:22] about the gaming structure, I'll look at it in the holydays [22:22] [AGREED] Create the discussion thread for more input [22:23] Okay Artificial_Intel, sounds good to me :) [22:23] Next item is the Community Council Meeting [22:23] [TOPIC] Representative for CC meeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Representative for CC meeting [22:24] I cannot make it, the time is wrong. [22:24] It is to early for me. 17:00 UTC [22:24] Can you make it Artificial_Intel? [22:24] I'm at work at the time. [22:24] *that [22:25] Okay, so it will probably have to be Joeb454 or baps that goes. I think the time is super difficult for bodhi and jdong [22:25] baps from France, so she's properly at work too [22:26] Yeah, but it would be 6 for her. I am still at work for another hour [22:26] Maybe we should contact the CC and see if they can move the time a little ? [22:27] worth a try [22:27] Okay, if baps and / or Joeb454 can't make it either we will contact them. I have Laura's email [22:28] I guess we could move onto Community Building Ideas [22:28] [TOPIC] Community Building Ideas === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Community Building Ideas [22:29] link? [22:29] I think we should create the ubuntu forums team [22:29] s-fox: Joeb454 said he'd make the meeting, the meeting is at 5pm UTC can't be changed I'm afraid [22:29] czajkowski, Can the day be changed to say a weekend? [22:29] czajkowski, Thanks for the info on joeb [22:30] no I'm afriad not it happens during the CC meeting, which is kinda fixed tbh given 8 folks on multiple timezones [22:30] Okay. [22:31] I would like to revive my suggestion from ages ago about a forums team. I have the link somewhere, let me find :) [22:31] ghost from the past :P [22:31]