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gusnanI am maintaining a package i Debian that has migrated from unstable to testing - what is required for it to come to precise? Am I wrong in thinking it should be imported automatically?07:50
micahggusnan: if there's no Ubuntu diff, it'll come automatically07:52
micahggusnan: at least until Debian Import Freeze which is Jan 907:52
gusnanmicahg, thanks - then I'll try to be a bit more patient :)07:53
dholbachgood morning08:10
gesergusnan: "automatic" means an archive admin has to start a script doing the importing (which is usually done as part of his daily duty)08:21
micahgwell, it's probably done a few times a week, and not daily08:22
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micahgudienz: are you aware we're still syncing regularly from Debian testing?09:52
udienzmicahg, but proftpd has been rebuild in precise09:54
micahgudienz: rebuilds shouldn't matter for auto-sync, only ubuntu revisions09:54
micahgor fakesyncs09:54
udienzah.. ok i see. so my bug sync can mark as invalid now?09:55
micahgudienz: yeah, it just migrated yesterday, so it'll come in with the next autosync09:55
micahgunless there's a pressing need for it (FTBFS, breakage in precise)09:56
* udienz set to invalid and unsuscrine ubuntu-sponsors09:57
micahgudienz: thanks :)09:59
DreadKnightcould anyone update tiled package? https://github.com/bjorn/tiled/issues/12510:08
DreadKnighthttp://www.mapeditor.org/10:08
DreadKnightthe version from softwre center is really old10:09
pmjdebruijnhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=tiled&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all10:11
pmjdebruijnoneiric already has a new version10:11
micahgDreadKnight: precise has 0.7.110:11
DreadKnightmicahg, I see; better but latest one is 0.8.0 :10:11
pmjdebruijnsorry10:11
pmjdebruijnI meant precise10:11
DreadKnightyeah10:11
pmjdebruijnbest way to have debian get a new version, since ubuntu imports from debian10:12
DreadKnightor to have this in the official tiled PPA10:12
DreadKnightI'm looking into how to build binaries from source using launchpad10:12
micahgDreadKnight: you can file a bug and tag it upgrade-software-version, it would probably be better if Debian updated first since we have no diff at present, since it was just released this week, you might want to give the Debian maintainer a chance to update10:13
DreadKnightmicahg, ok, will try that too, need to figure out who updated it last time10:13
micahgDreadKnight: only  one uploader in Debian: http://packages.qa.debian.org/t/tiled-qt.html10:14
micahgDreadKnight: if it's in Debian testing before Jan 9, precise will get it automatically, until Feb 16, you can request a sync from testing to precise10:15
DreadKnighthmm "maint:Ying-Chun Liu (PaulLiu)"10:16
DreadKnightseems the guy is on IRC10:16
DreadKnightmicahg, sounds good10:18
micahgDreadKnight: also, tiled-qt seems like something that should qualify for backports as long as we can get someone to test it10:20
DreadKnightmicahg, I can test it10:20
micahgDreadKnight: ok, so, starting in precise, there's a requestbackport script in ubuntu-dev-tools that can help you file backport requests10:23
DreadKnightmicahg, installing; also poked paulliu...10:25
micahgDreadKnight: so, you might want to wait until 0.8.0 is in unless you want to test multiple times (which is fine as well)10:25
DreadKnightalready testing 0.7.1 atm10:26
micahgok, you'll need to test that the binaries that we prepare install and run in the target release10:26
micahgyou could prepare a backport to test as well in your own PPA with backportpackage if you like, just include a link to the build when you file the request10:28
DreadKnightmicahg, alright; installed ubuntu-dev-tools btw10:28
* micahg is heading to sleep, but others might be able to help (or I can respond to pings in the morning)10:28
DreadKnightmicahg, well, if I was comfortable with making binaries in PPA's I wouldn't be here10:29
DreadKnightmicahg, thanks for the help, good night10:29
micahgDreadKnight: well, going through the distro others can benefit from your work  as well :)10:29
DreadKnightofc10:29
dholbachl3on, I had another malformed patch - maybe you could use bzr merge proposals? :)10:46
Laneymorning10:49
Laneydholbach: how do you feel about merging your developer stuff into the wiki now?10:49
Laneyi tinkered around the edges again the other day10:49
dholbachLaney, by developer stuff you mean https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers?10:51
ajmitchthat reminds me, I was looking at the ContributeToUbuntu page on the wiki & it's still suggesting to go through the motu mentoring program10:51
Laneythat's the page you rewrote?10:51
dholbachor the suggested update for it?10:51
Laneyyeah, it is - that10:51
dholbachajmitch, huats and I have an action item to remove all traces of the motu mentoring programme10:52
dholbachLaney, it's a shame nobody merged it in back then10:52
Laneyhmm?10:52
dholbachnow it'll be a bit more complicated with changes that happened in the meantime, no?10:52
LaneyI don't think there have been any10:52
dholbachoh10:52
Laneywell, the edit that I did the other day10:52
Laneybut I put that into TeamDelegation too so you can just ignroe that10:53
dholbachI thought you just said you made a few changes? was that to the draft?10:53
dholbachaha10:53
Laneyyeah on the pad10:53
dholbachok10:53
dholbachat least in the next 3-4 days I won't have the time to do it10:53
ajmitchdholbach: is that cleanup part of the developer advisory team stuff?10:56
dholbachajmitch, yes :)10:56
Laneyrighto10:57
* ajmitch saw that you were going to interview inactive contributors :)10:57
Laneyrun & hide?11:01
ajmitchsounds like a plan11:02
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l3ondholbach, damn :/ There's a bug in LP which removes newlines from the end of attachments submitted by email... anyway, I'm going to use merge proposal for future works ... thanks for review dholbach :).11:14
dholbachl3on, anytime :)11:15
l3onI'm going to mark bug 822289 as invalid, someone could confirm :) ?11:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 822289 in python-apptools (Ubuntu) "oneiric packaging problem python-apptools due to unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82228911:34
l3onhey guys.. is it possible solve bug 843734 ? I built ruby-sinatra in oneiric, it works fine...12:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 843734 in ruby-sinatra (Ubuntu) "dependency problem, does not install" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84373412:01
tumbleweedl3on: file a backport request?12:02
l3onmmm how? :)12:02
tumbleweedhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports12:03
l3ontumbleweed, thanks... but requestbackport does not exist :)12:05
tumbleweedl3on: it's in precise12:05
l3onahh ok :)12:05
tumbleweed(or grab ubuntu-dev-tools from the daily build PPA)12:05
tumbleweedwe were going to backport that, I never got around to it :P12:05
* tumbleweed kicks it off12:08
l3onlol12:08
tumbleweedno, can't be done until bug 888665 is fixed12:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 888665 in Launchpad itself "Backports can't build-depend on other backports" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/88866512:11
tumbleweedbroder: ^12:13
broder:-/12:13
ajmitchoh right, that bug's still there. frustrating12:13
broderi wonder if we're at the point that i should start asking for a non-virtualized ppa to stage backports in12:13
tumbleweedbroder: is that related?12:13
broderwe could use it to stage u-d-t at the same time as distro-info in the ppa, then copy them both at the same time into the archive12:14
tumbleweedright12:15
broderit would be a bad stopgap solution but would let us handle some backports12:15
tumbleweedI don't see why backports PPA *needs* to be virtualized12:16
tumbleweedI also don't know how hard it is to get a non-virtualized ppa12:16
broderunfortunately i think you have to be employed by canonical12:16
broderor possibly at least informed by someone with a Serious Business Relationship with canonical12:17
broders/informed/employed/12:17
ajmitchor you may just need to talk nicely to the right people12:17
broderhmm...i guess it could work if you copied everything currently in the -backports pocket into your ppa and then never removed anything from the ppa12:19
tumbleweedwhy would that be necessary?12:20
broderbecause the ppa builder won't pull in build-deps from the real backports pocket either12:20
tumbleweedoh, duh, my mental model of thus assumes LP isn't buggy :P12:21
tumbleweedpractically, one can just do that when necessary12:21
brodersure, that would work too12:21
ajmitchworking off the assumption that launchpad isn't using outdated & buggy code is doomed to failure :P12:22
broderanyway, /me puts the laptop away and goes back to sleep for a few more hours12:25
l3onok, bug 905304 reported12:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 905304 in Oneiric Backports "Please backport ruby-rack 1.3.1-1 (universe) from precise" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90530412:26
brodertumbleweed: hmm...you know what would be kind of awesome? if requestbackport ran a regexp over the request for bug references and spat out a "backports aren't for fixing bugs are you sure" prompt at you12:29
* broder actually goes back to sleep now12:29
tumbleweedheh12:29
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l3ondholbach, hey.. what do you think about this → http://paste.ubuntu.com/772162/13:02
l3onit's the same problem of bug 84917413:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 849174 in bibus (Ubuntu Oneiric) "Bibus is not installable in Oneiric (depends on python<2.7)" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84917413:03
dholbachl3on, I'm just about to head out for lunch - submit it for review and I'll have a look later on13:03
l3onoki :)13:03
geserl3on: one small note: also mention OCaml (and not just the version) in the changelog. Only from the maintainer change in your debdiff, I realized that 3.12.0 was the OCaml version13:38
l3ongeser, yep yep.. It should be fixed in the last comment...13:39
l3on:)13:39
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Ampelbeinl3on: Hey, about bug 905015 - I added a link to upstream's svn with a working patch, which got reverted by accident.14:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 905015 in rosegarden (Ubuntu) "Please merge rosegarden 11.11.11-1 (universe) from Debian testing " [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90501514:13
l3onAmpelbein, thanks... I got it and rebuild ... see new bug comments :)15:13
l3onjamespage, ping it's about bug 888937. Problem is that changing java we need upgrade md5sum ...15:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 888937 in fex (Ubuntu) "fex version 20110622-1ubuntu1 failed to build with openjdk-7" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/88893715:22
l3onTo fix problem I can set jdk7 as build-dep an update md5sum... let me know.15:23
Laneydholbach: your patch pilot mail reminds me to remind you that syncpackage now lets you sponsor syncs (in precise or the ubuntu-dev-tools daily)15:27
Laney:-)15:27
jamespagel3on, ack; I did look at the package but could not understand why the checksums where being validated during the build process?15:27
dholbachLaney, does the script already do everything correctly? I thought there was still something wrong with attribution?15:27
Laneythat is the missing piece that got landed15:28
dholbachnice15:28
dholbachif it works as expected, it should be on ubuntu-devel-announce@ or some such :)15:28
Laneywe should publicise that15:28
jincreatorHi, everyone. Is it possible to sync package which version is lower than in Ubuntu?15:28
dholbachjincreator, no15:28
dholbachwhatever gets passed on to the build machines has to have a higher version than what's currently available15:29
* dholbach goes back to writing the dev update15:29
l3onjamespage, I don't know... :/15:30
jincreatordholbach: Thanks.15:30
dholbachanytime15:33
jamespagel3on: it may be possible to make the checksums match; if we target the javac command at the right java release using -target 1.5/1.6 then it might match15:34
jamespageI'll give it a try15:34
l3onAmpelbein, FTBFS rosegarden in i386 mmm...15:50
Ampelbeinl3on: Yeah, seen that. The reason: ac_cv_env_build_alias_value=i686-linux-gnu, which isn't the multiarch triplet.15:50
l3onmaybe an `IF arch is "i686-linux-gnu" ; then do nothing ; fi ` should fix problem ?15:52
Ampelbeinl3on: No, I think your previous patch (with dpkg-architecture -q.... in acinclude.m4) is a good workaround until upstream agrees on a better solution.15:54
l3onwhat's next step ?15:55
Ampelbeinl3on: Reopen 905015 and update https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rosegarden/+bug/905015/+attachment/2635296/+files/debdiff_11.11.11-1_11.11.11-1ubuntu1.patch to the new version.15:56
ubottuUbuntu bug 905015 in rosegarden (Ubuntu) "Please merge rosegarden 11.11.11-1 (universe) from Debian testing " [Wishlist,Fix released]15:56
l3onAmpelbein, yesterday I tried this: https://launchpad.net/~l3on/+archive/ppa/+packages15:57
l3onIt changes debian/rules in adding:15:57
l3ondh_auto_configure -- --enable-debug --with-qtlibdir=/usr/lib/$(shell dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_MULTIARCH)15:58
l3onBut, I'm not sure it will build on armel15:58
Ampelbeinl3on: It should.15:59
l3onwhat do you think... is it better ?15:59
l3onI mean, better than patch acinclude.m416:00
AmpelbeinYes, it's cleaner in my opinion.16:01
l3onok, I'll do that change16:01
bdrungLaney, dholbach: and sponsor-patch supports the new sponsoring method of syncpackage16:07
dholbachnice16:08
dholbachthat should probably be mentioned too16:08
l3onAmpelbein, done. Thanks again.. :)16:08
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Ampelbeinl3on: Since we have -1ubuntu1 of rosegarden already in the archive, the new upload should be versioned -1ubuntu2. I changed that manually now and uploaded17:35
udienzHi there, i just want to confirm that in bug 905252 i still in progress in maverick/lucid/oneiric and not ready for upload18:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 905252 in proftpd-dfsg (Ubuntu) "CVE-2011-4130" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90525218:17
micahgudienz: you want ubuntu-security-sponsors, not ubuntu-sponsors18:19
udienzmicahg, yes i understood about it but crichton subscribed ubuntu-sponsors too18:19
* udienz can't unsubscribe ubuntu-sponsors 18:20
micahgudienz: uh, that's a bug I guess, I unsubscribed it18:20
micahgbdmurray ^^18:20
achianghello, i've just gotten a package accepted into debian. if i want it in precise, i need to file a sync request, right?18:24
broderScottK: bug #892355 should have a lucid-backports task, right?18:27
micahgachiang: yep, we're still syncing from testing though, so should get it in around 10-15 days if it migrates18:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 892355 in maverick-backports "Please backport clamav 0.97.3+dfsg-1ubuntu0.11.04.1 from natty-updates to lucid/maverick" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89235518:27
udienzachiang, right. if i'm not wrong, since precise is LTS you must wait your package entering debian testing18:27
micahgudienz: new packages can be synced from unstable, but we're still far enough out that it's not necessary (getting close though)18:28
achiangmicahg: ah, so if i just wait then ubuntu automatically gets it once it lands in testing?18:31
udienzmicahg, hm.. thanks for this info. for this case, i think we can wait for new package entering debian testing because we still away from precise release. right?18:31
micahgachiang: yep, as long as it migrates before Jan 918:31
micahgudienz: yes, see above ^^18:32
achiangmicahg: ok, the date that scares me is the DIF. i really want this package in precise...18:32
udienzgot it, thanks18:32
achiangmicahg: so if the answer is to just wait, and then it auto-syncs, that's fine18:32
achiangmicahg: but what happens if it doesn't migrate before Jan 9? Because Jan 12 is DIF18:33
micahgachiang: DIF shouldn't scare you then, you have 5 weeks afterwards to request the sync :)18:34
achiangmicahg: oh! i thought DIF meant no more syncs from debian?18:34
micahgachiang: no more automated syncs :)18:34
achianggot it, i didn't realize "freeze" meant "automated syncs"18:35
achiangi thought it was "no more syncs, period"18:35
micahgachiang: we'll still be syncing up to release for various things for various unseeded packages as usual18:35
achiangack18:35
achiangthanks micahg18:35
micahgwell, 1.5-5 days before :)18:35
brodertumbleweed: do you think we can get something similar to http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/rdepends/ for debian?20:20
micahggah, ruby sources are a horrible mess...20:30
tumbleweedbroder: I asked if anyone was interested, and got no response20:41
broderin running it or using it?20:41
tumbleweedbroder: there is, of course, less need for it, because Debian has less distributions in flight20:41
tumbleweedif anyone wanted it20:41
broderfewer distributions in flight, but more ports20:41
tumbleweedthat's true20:41
tumbleweedif we do it, we should do it on Debian DDE. I can chat to enrico20:42
broderi have no idea how i would currently go about looking for, say, r-deps of a mips package20:42
tumbleweedyoud download the Packages file and run grep-dctrl across it20:42
brodereww20:42
broder:)20:42
tumbleweedmost people have that scripted, right20:43
tumbleweedor even easier: ssh into the dak mirror and do a dak rm, see what it complains about20:43
brodereasier for you maybe20:44
ajmitchtumbleweed: I'm updating udd now, when's the best time to run the cron job for you?20:44
tumbleweedajmitch: doesn't matter for me. I don't have anything that's cronned, using it, yet20:45
ajmitchok20:45
ajmitchsunday morning it is then20:45
micahgtumbleweed: is your upload activity page supposed to be updated on a regular basis or was it a one time export?20:46
ajmitchit should only take a few minutes to do, anyway20:46
ajmitchmicahg: it probably depends on the data I'm updating now :)20:47
tumbleweedmicahg: once we have UDD on the ubuntuwire machine I can cron it20:47
micahgooh cool20:47
tumbleweedalthough, I probably won't regenarte the affiliations very often, that takes hours20:47
ajmitchtumbleweed: you should be able to do that now then20:47
tumbleweedajmitch: right, but I've run it after the last import (unless you just did one :P )20:48
ajmitchtumbleweed: still downloading the data, I mean that you can set up the cron job now :)20:48
* tumbleweed does that20:49
* ajmitch should try & get on that uploaders list20:50
tumbleweedajmitch: can haz python-psycopg2 ?20:51
ajmitchwas sure I'd installed that one20:52
* micahg was shocked to find out he was on it for lucid20:52
ajmitchnever mind, I've installed it now20:52
ajmitchmicahg: yeah I sort of disappeared from the graphs20:52
* tumbleweed wasn't but I've been on every one since :/20:52
micahgajmitch: yeah, your last appearance on it was for feisty20:52
broderwhich list?20:53
micahgbroder: http://people.ubuntu.com/~stefanor/upload_activity/20:53
ajmitchmicahg: that's pretty sad :)20:53
broderah yeah, i've definitely never made that20:53
micahgbroder: you're on your way for precise ;)20:54
ajmitchwhat's the number I need to hit for precise to get back on the list? :)20:54
micahgcurrently, I think it's between 10 and 1520:55
broderoh really? sweet - i can totally make that :)20:55
* ajmitch can do that...20:55
ajmitchif I can find something I can fix :)20:55
micahgbroder: you're already at 1320:55
micahgajmitch: lots of armhf FTBFS which are general20:56
brodermicahg: i count 7 uploads to precise on https://launchpad.net/~broder/+uploaded-packages - does the graph count things i sponsor?20:56
broderoh, i guess syncs too20:56
micahgbroder: I think syncs count, but cannot be sure20:56
ajmitchmicahg: where are you seeing 13?20:57
broderajmitch: count the number of times "precise" shows up on https://launchpad.net/~broder/+uploaded-packages and https://launchpad.net/~broder/+synchronised-packages20:57
micahgajmitch: search for him in my precise-changes folder20:57
broderor that :)20:57
ajmitchah right :)20:57
broderdo i get credit for srus? that would totally push me over :)20:58
micahgI'm missing the first 2 days I think, but that's mostly the top uploaders anyways20:58
ajmitchmicahg: there are only a few hundred FTBFS, that's not so bad :)20:58
micahgour newest MOTU was on the list for oneiric :)21:00
broderyeah, but they're the ones you have to worry about! they actually *do* things21:00
* ajmitch was young once :)21:01
micahgbroder: not like we have a shortage of things to do21:01
ajmitchmicahg: it's always a matter of finding where to start21:01
brodermicahg: it looks like jtaylor had about 60 uploads during the cycle, though21:01
broderi'm not sure i can keep up with that21:02
micahgajmitch: anywhere your heart desires :)21:02
jtaylorneither can I :/21:02
broderhaha21:02
ajmitchmicahg: too many choices to make!21:02
* ajmitch should check on the state of mono-debugger21:03
tumbleweedbroder: yes. And backports now21:04
broderpsh. *that* just seems unfair...but i'll take it21:04
ajmitchis there a good way to do armhf test builds?21:04
tumbleweedbroder: well, you would, if we attributed them21:05
tumbleweedbut you could get the backports team in :P21:05
brodertumbleweed: huh? i'm pretty sure i get the changed-by on any backport i approved21:05
tumbleweedor is that archive@ubuntu21:05
tumbleweedbroder: it doesn't make it into the LP SPPH, that I can see21:06
micahghmm...backports don't seem to hit -changes21:06
ajmitchno, and for good reason21:06
tumbleweedit was specifically disabled21:06
* tumbleweed digs out the bug21:07
broderi see entries in ubuntu_upload_history for backports that have me as changed-by and signed-by21:07
ajmitchdo all security uploads make it to -changes these days?21:07
tumbleweedbroder: oh, cool21:07
tumbleweedajmitch: yes21:07
tumbleweedbackports were excluded because people were confusing them with -security21:07
tumbleweed(actually I assume "all" not sure about that)21:07
micahgajmitch: nope, mine don't21:08
ajmitchright, I didn't think they did21:08
micahgajmitch: all the ones from the P3A do21:08
tumbleweedajmitch: bug 5944321:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 59443 in Launchpad itself "Soyuz should send announce messages for backports to different list" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/5944321:08
ajmitchmicahg: you have a separate special place?21:08
micahgajmitch: I use the public PPAs since I don't work on embargoed stuff21:09
ajmitchright21:09
tumbleweedcronned: http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~stefanor/ubuntu-activity/21:10
tumbleweed(daily)21:10
ajmitchgreat21:11
ajmitchso it'll update in ~5 hours or so21:12
tumbleweedyup21:12
ajmitchthis download of the udd data will be done by then, I hope :)21:13
ScottKbroder: Yes.  Fixed.  Thanks.21:26
Ampelbeinhmm, build-rdeps can't search for universe build rdepends?21:56
micahgAmpelbein: try reverse-depends from ubuntu-dev-tools21:57
AmpelbeinOh, I see, thanks micahg.21:58
jtaylorno-change rebuild changelogs (buildX) are kept or does one drop them on ubuntuX updates?22:19
AmpelbeinI'd drop them, they contain no useful information IMHO.22:20
jtaylorI choose something nice and simple for my first upload: bug 902494, due to the simplicity of the fix a SRU candidate so I don't want to wait to long for debian22:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 902494 in silly (Ubuntu) "symbol lookup error: undefined symbol: png_create_read_struct" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90249422:34
jtaylorso how does this now work? I only ever dput'ed to ppas and mentors :/22:34
broderjtaylor: step 1: target the bug correctly22:36
broder(click "nominate for series" and check oneiric, or whatever)22:36
jtayloryou mean nominate for oneiric?22:36
broderright22:36
broderstep 2: make sure the bug is fixed in precise or going to be fixed soon22:37
jtayloryes I prepared a precise upload22:37
broderok. then "dput precise my_build.changes"22:37
brodererr...wait22:37
broderno22:37
broderdput ubuntu :)22:37
broderlp dispatches the upload based on the Distribution line in the .changes file22:38
broderso make sure that says precise/oneiric-proposed/whatever22:38
broderit should also have a Launchpad-Bugs-Fixed header, which is what triggers the janitor to close the bug22:39
broderjtaylor: is that the information you were looking for?22:41
jtayloryes thanks22:41
jtaylorfor the -propsed upload the same upload procedure + update bug description + subscripte sru team?22:42
broderyep22:42
broderoh sweet - i finally caught an upload that's affected by my pkgbinarymangler change. we are, in fact, no longer generating symlink-should-be-relative tags for langpack symlinks: http://lintian.ubuntuwire.org/full/ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com.html#brasero22:46
broder(the package-contains-broken-symlink tags will go away next time i update lintian)22:46

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