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mikalHi. Is there someone who can chat to me about the precise china daily images in the archive? Specifically, I want to know if its safe to clean some of the older ones up yet.00:11
cjwatsonoh, I can go do that.00:11
cjwatsonI'd prefer if that were always left to one of the cdimage team00:12
mikalOk, no problems.00:12
mikalSo you'd rather that it was left manual as well?00:12
cjwatson(Must implement auto-purging of the Qin images)00:12
cjwatsonIt's my fault that that isn't automatic yet00:12
cjwatsonIt's automatic for most other images00:12
mikalOk... you're happy doing that work and don't want me to give you a hand?00:12
cjwatsonYes, it should be done as part of our existing scripts00:13
cjwatsonWould be bad for the two of us to have competing systems for that kind of thing :)00:13
mikalHeh00:13
mikalSure00:13
mikalOk, well if you could do a quick clean when you get a chance that would be awesome00:13
cjwatsonI've cleaned up all but the last four days now00:14
cjwatsonShould be syncing to scandium at the moment00:14
mikalThanks man00:14
cjwatsonActually could you file a bug on the ubuntu-cdimage project in LP about the manualness?  Otherwise I'll forget00:14
mikalFor sure00:14
cjwatsonTa00:14
mikalNP00:15
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tumbleweedLaney, skaet: I'm not expecting to be around for todays meeting (not that MOTU generally has much to say)11:42
Laneyi likely will not be either, but don't think there is anything to report11:46
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skaettumbleweed, Laney - ack.    Thanks for letting me know.  :)15:10
cjwatsonso the new publisher crontab entry is:16:24
cjwatson03,33 * * * * /srv/launchpad.net/codelines/current/cronscripts/publish-ftpmaster.py -v -d ubuntu >> /srv/launchpad.net/production-logs/lp_publish/publish-ftpmaster.log 2>&116:24
cjwatsondo bear it in mind if you're doing anything under the assumption that the publisher won't be running ...16:24
cjwatsonI think I've adjusted most related jobs on cocoplum and lillypilly too16:24
cjwatsonpitti, I tweaked your sru-report job to run twice-hourly; I hope it's fast enough for that, haven't checked16:25
pitticjwatson: yeah, should; it usually takes around 5 mins16:25
pittitraversing through all the bugs16:25
cjwatsonok, good16:26
cjwatsonI should be able to switch to API-based mass syncs fairly soon as well, now that copyPackage has sponsoring support16:27
cjwatsonI'll probably work on that next week16:27
skaetcjwatson,  is there a good overview some where of all the related jobs, and how they interact from the cron perspective?17:01
cjwatsonnot AFAIK17:01
cjwatsonit usually only matters if you're working on them, in which case 'crontab -l'17:02
skaetheh,  was afraid you'd say that.  thanks.17:02
cjwatsonotherwise what mostly matters is the last-generation time of reports, which should generally be on the report itself17:03
cjwatsonthe relevant user/host combinations if you're working on them directly are lp_publish@cocoplum, lp_archive@cocoplum (gradually going away), and ubuntu-archive@lillypilly17:04
cjwatsonwgrant: it might be worth making the FTBFS pages on qa.ubuntuwire.com update twice an hour now, if that's feasible17:06
cjwatsonskaet: the jobs run as ubuntu-archive@lillypilly are set up to be fairly loosely coupled with the publisher cycle; they try to run every ten minutes and only do anything if the archive changed17:07
cjwatsonso the precise timing there isn't desperately important17:08
* cjwatson fixes it so that *-mismatches will run again, though17:11
cjwatson(was broken by this morning's deployment)17:16
skaetThanks for the overview cjwatson,  appreciated.  :)17:25
cjwatsonsent a mail to -devel now about the increased frequency17:33
cjwatsonmight miss the next publisher run; there were a lot of binaries from the mass sync17:59
cjwatsonOK, so mostly half-hourly.  Still a bit to improve.18:00
* cjwatson takes great pleasure in closing bug 3653518:11
ubot4Launchpad bug 36535 in launchpad "cron.daily should complete quick enough to allow 30 minute days again (affects: 1) (heat: 16)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/3653518:11
* slangasek oohs at the cocoplum crontab - yay18:24
infinitycjwatson: I assume that if the publisher bumps into a lock, it just gives up, then?19:12
slangasekyep19:12
* infinity thinks it's high time we fix lp_queue's crontab as well...19:14
infinityWe haven't needed that gap at :55 for years.19:15
mvocould a archive admin check if "vmware-view-client" in archive.canonical.com needs NEW processing? I just uploaded it to archive.canonical.com19:48
mvono archive-admins around anymore at this time of day/night :) ?19:52
infinitymvo: Which release?20:06
infinitymvo: Ahh, oneiric.20:06
mvoinfinity: oneiric and the partner archive20:07
infinityDo we have a quality policy for partner yet, or should I just close my eyes and accept? :P20:07
mvoinfinity: feedback is welcome20:08
* infinity grabs the source for a quick license check, at least.20:08
mvoinfinity: but there are limits what we can do20:08
infinitymvo: Yeah, I know.20:08
infinitymvo: partner scares me. :P20:08
cjwatsoninfinity: yeah, you just get:20:09
cjwatson2011-12-16 18:03:03 INFO    Creating lockfile: /var/lock/launchpad-publisher.lock20:09
cjwatson2011-12-16 18:03:03 DEBUG   Lockfile /var/lock/launchpad-publisher.lock in use20:09
infinitymvo: debian/copyright seems somewhat inaccurate...20:12
infinitymvo: At least, I assume all these binary blobs aren't actually LGPL?20:12
mvoinfinity: I have no idea :/ but I guess it should be LGPL-2.1 and properiteary instead?20:15
infinityYeah.  I just found usr/share/doc/vmware-view-client/VMware-view-client-EULA-en.txt20:16
infinityAnd I wish I hadn't.20:17
infinityI assume that Canonical has a license that overrides this and allows us to distribute. :P20:17
infinityCause this is hilariously strict.20:17
infinityIt would be nice if the Canonical-specific licenses we negotiate could land in debian/copyright. :/20:18
mvoinfinity: thanks, I will raise this with the relevant people20:18
infinityAs it reads (with what info is included in the package), we don't have a license to distribute, and since the EULA is non-transferrable, we're not giving our users the right to either download or use the product.20:19
infinityI assume neither of those statements is actually true, but there should be some text in the package denoting what the truth actually is.20:19
mvoinfinity: thanks again! I will clarify this20:23
mvoSpamapS, pitti: if someone could look at the SRU for app-install-data-partner at some point, that would be great! its for vmare-view21:54
SpamapSmvo: will look at it later today21:57
mvothanks!21:58
SpamapSmvo: done22:04
mvothanks again!22:08
infinitymvo: Accepting your vmware thingee as-is for now, but I've raised the license clarification concerns with the powers that be.22:09
infinitymvo: (Like I said, I suspect lots of partner has similar issues, so perhaps this will just lead to better processes on that front)22:10
mvoinfinity: yeah, much appreciated!22:14
* mvo finally calls it a day22:14
wgrantcjwatson: Excellent!22:54

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