[01:17] <jcastro> rick_h__: what keyboard are you rolling with these days?
[01:18] <jcastro> snap-l: I do have cliff em all
[02:12] <rick_h__> jcastro: http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=leopold,tenkeyless&pid=fc200rcab
[02:13] <jcastro> ah a leopold
[02:13] <rick_h__> I like the feel of the unicomp better I think, but I like the size of this one
[02:13] <jcastro> I've had a unicomp before
[02:13] <jcastro> looking for something new
[02:13] <rick_h__> and this one comes in a quiet
[02:13] <jcastro> These ducky's seem highly regarded
[02:13] <rick_h__> so I've got one in blue with clicky, and one in brown that's not
[02:13] <rick_h__> too bad you weren't local, you could use one since I've got a pair
[02:14] <rick_h__> one day I'll hit the lotto and get http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=topre_keyboards,rftenkeyless&pid=rf_se1800
[02:15] <jcastro> hah yeah
[02:15] <rick_h__> jcastro: nexus arriving tomorrow woot
[02:15] <jcastro> why no keypad?
[02:15] <jcastro> personal pref?
[02:15] <rick_h__> jcastro: yes, like to have the space, mouse closer
[02:15] <rick_h__> less movement and such, and I don't do number crunching
[02:17] <jcastro> http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:13063
[02:17] <jcastro> this is the one I'm eyeing
[02:17] <jcastro> they make different color combos
[02:17] <rick_h__> jcastro: I can bring this to budapest?
[02:18] <jcastro> the black on black looks badass though
[02:18] <jcastro> they also make a backlit version
[02:18] <jcastro> http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/product-ducky-dk-9008-shine
[02:18] <jcastro> but not sure about that
[02:18] <jcastro> rick_h__: bring what to budapest?
[02:19] <rick_h__> my leopold
[02:19] <rick_h__> http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/
[02:19] <jcastro> oh man
[02:19] <jcastro> the one on the page looks awesome
[02:20] <rick_h__> yea, try out the keyboard builder
[02:20] <rick_h__> I got some replacement keycaps for mine there
[02:20] <rick_h__> $1 a cap isn't bad for a little bit of color
[02:20] <jcastro> oh nice
[02:20] <jcastro> I can make an ubuntu keyboard
[02:21] <jcastro> with the kb shortcuts I care about
[02:21] <rick_h__> yea, no idea if their keyboards are any good, but it's kind of sweet ui and website
[02:21] <jcastro> cherry mx switches
[02:21] <rick_h__> yep
[02:21] <jcastro> is really what I am looking for
[02:22] <jcastro> the rest is details
[02:22] <rick_h__> you'd hope
[02:22] <rick_h__> this leopols is the only one I've used with cherry switches so not sure if they can vary much with the rest of the casing
[02:23] <jcastro> seems like the perf preference is on the kind of mx it is
[02:23] <jcastro> gamers like black, normal people like me probably brown, etc.
[02:23] <jcastro> of course, I don't have a local place where I would be able to try they
[02:24] <rick_h__> right, I've got blue and brown
[02:24] <rick_h__> blue has some noise to it, brown pretty quiet/normal keyboard sounding
[02:24] <rick_h__> I got the brown for the office since it was a cube farm
[02:25] <rick_h__> sometime I've got to try the reds
[02:27] <jcastro> you like the browns?
[02:27] <rick_h__> jcastro: anyway, that's what I'm rolling with. Let me know if you want me to try to bring one to try out if you've not bought something yet
[02:28] <jcastro> man this site is awesome
[02:28] <jcastro> layouts
[02:28] <rick_h__> jcastro: not as much, I like the click sound, but I'm still a fan of the unicomp with the buckle spring
[02:28] <jcastro> color combos
[02:28] <rick_h__> yea, it's pretty sweet, customize a little bit
[02:28] <rick_h__> great thing with the cherry's is that the keycaps are compatible pretty much
[02:28] <rick_h__> I've got blue meta keys, red esc/c keys, and orange wads
[02:29]  * jcastro nods
[02:34] <rick_h__> https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/G-iykTZBSOiE3HV462KzF9MTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
[03:21] <jcastro> what headphones are those?
[03:21] <jcastro> rick_h__: I sent those guys at wasd an email about getting the layout that they have a pic on their front page
[03:22] <jcastro> rick_h__: I've got the design assets and the ubuntu font, I think I'll make an ubuntu keyboard.
[07:17] <tyman> Anyone around that can discuss kvm/libvirt?
[12:25] <Wolfger> morning
[12:35] <rick_h__> morning
[13:02] <brousch> snap-l: half off "arduino in action" with code dotd1216cc http://www.manning.com/mevans/
[13:03] <Wolfger> cool
[13:04] <Wolfger> I really need to get back to playing around with my arduino
[13:05] <brousch> you're an arduinee too?
[13:05] <Wolfger> arduinee wannabee
[13:05] <brousch> i just made that up. do you like it?
[13:06] <Wolfger> I got one, played with it a bit, then it just kinda fell off my radar. I was going to automate some stuff for Halloween, but I suffered from lack of any concrete ideas
[13:06] <Wolfger> I do. It's good
[13:06] <Wolfger> brousch++
[13:08] <Wolfger> I need to stop buying tech books and use the ones I have more.
[13:09] <Wolfger> I have a bunch (mostly off the MicroCenter bargain rack) that I've never even cracked.
[13:27] <Wolfger> In my defense, a lot of those I bought were for Java, and I'm no longer a Java dev and don't really like the language. :-p
[13:27] <brousch> you were a java dev?
[13:29] <Wolfger> Briefly. Then Chrysler offshored our dev and support group.
[13:30] <brousch> ouch
[13:54] <snap-l> brousch: Yeah, Java has a lot of pain associated with it for Wolfger and I
[13:54] <snap-l> I was promised that I would be tasked with doing some porting work in Java at some point, then I became a Technical Resource ne Project Manager.
[13:55] <snap-l> It kinda fucks with you
[14:00] <snap-l> That and the whole development to production process for FieldConnect was pretty brutal
[14:00] <snap-l> when it comes right down to it, Chrysler was a pretty shit place for developers.
[14:01] <Wolfger> Hey, I saw on Monster that Morpace is hiring... :-)
[14:01] <snap-l> Wolfger: What position?
[14:01] <Wolfger> web dev
[14:02] <snap-l> link?
[14:02] <brousch> ut oh
[14:02] <Wolfger> It's an ugly link. One sec...
[14:03] <Wolfger> http://goo.gl/Iax6Z
[14:04] <brousch> Wolfger: i don't think that's the right link
[14:04] <brousch> takes me to concordia college on monster with your name and address filled in
[14:05] <brousch> wait, now it works
[14:05] <brousch> that is messed up
[14:05] <brousch> ew! ASP and IIS
[14:07] <Wolfger> Yeah, the link was e-mailed to me, so it probably did have some personalization in it
[14:07] <Wolfger> which is lame. That should be based off of a secure login, not a URL.
[14:08] <brousch> it went away the second time
[14:14] <rick_h__> woot, phone is local...now to get it to my door!
[14:14]  * snap-l tries to think up one more delay, but says rick_h__ has been through enough already.
[14:14] <rick_h__> yea not today...been a rough morning
[14:14] <rick_h__> broken crap and I'm getting ranty
[14:15] <snap-l> ruh roh
[14:15] <snap-l> http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SPH-M540ZRASPR <- This phone?
[14:15] <rick_h__> note to devs...if you have a branch called "spec-compliant" and that's not master...you've @#$#@@# up
[14:15] <rick_h__> hah, you just saw that post as well eh?
[14:15] <snap-l> Yeah
[14:36] <Wolfger> rofl
[14:36] <rick_h__> jjesse: love that comic, funny if if you do hate iOS :)
[14:37] <jjesse> i thought it was epic today
[14:37] <jjesse> scott adams has been on a roll lately
[14:43] <brousch> lately?
[14:43] <jjesse> all week i've laughed pretty hard
[14:43] <jjesse> i don't every day
[16:25] <jcastro> rick_h__: nexus status update from you pls.
[16:25] <rick_h__> jcastro: on truck...promised by 3pm
[16:25] <jcastro> when it comes in ping me, I Want to try this hangout video thing
[16:25] <rick_h__> sounds good
[16:27] <brousch> bastards
[17:47] <snap-l> niece is over
[17:47] <snap-l> had her playing bongos
[18:00] <ColonelPanic001> o.o
[18:08] <snap-l> and she was pretty good
[18:08] <snap-l> Well, this meeting is going well, since the other person hasn't hopped onto the conference call
[18:15] <snap-l> And his loss
[18:15] <snap-l> 15 minutes, no conference call = no deal
[18:18] <ColonelPanic001> heh
[18:41] <snap-l> http://lichkingmetal.bandcamp.com/track/black-metal-sucks
[18:42] <brousch> vocalist sounds like a little weenie
[19:13] <brousch> jcastro: did the nexus come with any crap-apps you couldn't uninstall?
[19:15] <jcastro> I imported a gsm nexus so no
[19:15] <jcastro> rick has the vzw one
[19:16] <rick_h__> yea, it's got a vzw backup app
[19:16] <rick_h__> but really clean
[19:16] <rick_h__> and 4g ftw, downloaded 12hrs of audible audio like lightning
[19:16] <brousch> just the 1 app?
[19:17] <snap-l> rick_h__: Did you let it charge yet?
[19:17] <rick_h__> snap-l: charging now :)
[19:17] <rick_h__> had it plugged in since it came out of the box except for hte time it spent at the verizon store
[19:17] <snap-l> awesome
[19:17] <rick_h__> they didn't show the damn phone on my account so it wouldn't activate
[19:17] <rick_h__> but all good now, apps installed, and video tested with jcastro
[19:18] <snap-l> That's rocking.
[19:19] <rick_h__> yea, pretty sweet
[19:19] <rick_h__> jcastro: how was my video over the 4g?
[19:19] <jcastro> phone
[19:19] <rick_h__> lol, ok
[19:20] <snap-l> Sheesh
[19:42] <brousch> [Deal] Galaxy Nexus Extended Battery is Half Off at VerizonWireless.com, Just $25 - goo.gl/jagSh
[19:44] <snap-l> I just compared software development with musicians
[19:45] <snap-l> trying to explain how some developers can know a little bit about one instrument (guitar) and be able to plink about on another instrument (bass) but not be anywhere near Les claypool or Geddy Lee
[19:55] <brousch> makes sense
[22:06] <Wonnenangshonat> Hello
[22:20] <snap-l> Hello, Wonnenangshonat
[22:20] <Wonnenangshonat> Howdy snap-l
[22:20] <Wonnenangshonat> hows it going
[22:20] <snap-l> It goes
[22:20] <snap-l> Yourself?
[22:22] <Wonnenangshonat> Good enough
[22:22] <Wonnenangshonat> Where you from?
[22:22] <snap-l> Michigan
[22:32] <Blazeix> a lot of us in here are in south eastern michigan
[22:32] <Blazeix> couple west-siders. I think mydogsname1srudy is in the UP
[22:33] <Wonnenangshonat> northern shoress here
[22:33] <Wonnenangshonat> lake michigan
[22:34] <Wonnenangshonat> we got a large operating ranch here with almost 4 miles of the lake
[22:34] <Wonnenangshonat> just south of muskegon lake
[23:36] <_stink_> Wonnenangshonat: sounds pretty cool.