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nuvolarisuperfly: I wanted to, but I'm missing it in my font collection :P I'll try to install it just now03:51
nuvolari:> I like!04:11
inetproGood morning 06:07
superflymorning inetpro06:37
kierendhello.  i need to speak to a LEG person.  are any active?13:49
superflykierend: I'm not sure which people are LEG people... tumbleweed, isn't that something you have connections to?13:52
* tumbleweed waves at kierend13:53
tumbleweedbut I need to run off13:53
kierendtumbleweed: wait, quickly!13:53
kierendany chance of leg sponsorship of pizza for a tsl fixing tomorrow?13:54
kierendwell, not fixing but construction13:54
tumbleweedsure13:55
kierend:D13:55
tumbleweedalthough it's no tmy decision, we do have a committee13:55
kierendok13:55
tumbleweedbut they suck13:55
kierendcan i talk to you later to arrange things?13:55
kierendwhenever's good for you13:55
tumbleweedI'll poke you whe nI get back. Going to a wedding...13:55
kierendsweet13:55
kierendthanks13:55
kierendenjoy13:55
nuvolarigeez, lots of people getting married today14:14
nuvolariI know of at least 214:15
nuvolari:P14:15
nuvolariDoes anyone around here have experience with 3G/Cell antennas? (building-mounted)14:15
nuvolariI do find in the specs that they mention the wind speed that it can handle, but there's not any menion on something like lightning strikes14:16
Kilosafternoon superfly  and others14:49
superflyhey Kilos!14:49
Kilosty will try that14:49
Kilosthats a good command. ty superfly 14:59
zerefsooooo lazy15:02
zerefbust lurking on myBB15:03
zeref*busy15:03
Kiloshaha hiya zeref 15:04
zerefhi Kilos 15:09
LangjanHi kilos15:10
Kiloshi there Langjan  hows ya15:10
Langjanfine thanks, you?15:11
Kilosnot too bad thank you15:11
Langjanwat pla?15:11
superflyhi Langjan15:11
Kiloskop soos gewoonlik15:11
Langjanhi superfly 15:11
Kiloshehe15:11
Langjankry jy hoofpyn?15:12
Kilos24/715:12
LangjanWaaroor stres jy? Of drink jy nie water nie? Of albei...15:12
Kiloswaar skedel aanmekaar gegroei het het dit sunuwees vas gegroei15:12
LangjanEina, jammer daaroor.  15:13
Kilosdis nou n 13 jaar hoofpein15:13
Kilosword gewoont15:13
LangjanMy innige simpatie15:13
Kilosnee man15:14
Kiloswaarop is jy nou15:14
Kilosmaverick of natty15:14
Kilos10.10 of 11.0415:14
LangjanDaar's 'n homeopaat/chiro in Petoria wat uitstekend is met "onmoontlike" skeletverwante probleme15:14
Langjaneks op 10.10, het gereboot15:15
Kilosek was by die headache clinic in joies gewees and die mense daar se al manier is om die senuwees te sny15:15
Kiloso het jy xchat reg?15:16
LangjanNee, is nou op die harde skyf met die hommelbyprobleem  15:16
Kiloshaha15:16
Kilosso xchat werk op hierdie een?15:17
LangjanKilos voordat jy oorweeg om te laat sny moet jy dr Lilley in Pta gaan sien, ek ken hom en sy Pa al 50 jaar lank15:17
Kilosof is dit die een wat na ander kanaal toe gaan15:17
LangjanAlles is nou op die 11.04 gerugsteun ook my e-posse so ons kan nou "go to town" op hierdie een om dit reg te kry15:19
Kilosek het begin by die neuro schirurg wat my aan mekaar gesit het en hy het gese die senuwees is vas geknyp waar die skedel weer vas gegroei het en ek moet leer om daarmee saam te leef15:19
Kilosaha15:20
Kiloswil jy reg maak of van voor begin met partisies en instaleer15:20
Langjanek dink julle wou laas die Nvidia uithaal, ek wil graag probeer opgradeer maar is bang die probleem word neet orgedra 15:21
Kiloswil jy van die internet opgradeer15:22
Langjanhet so gedink ja15:22
Kiloswel dan gaan jy als moet aflaai so hoekom laai jy nie die hele 11.04 af nie en brand n cd ek instaleer van scratch15:24
LangjanOK maar ek het 'n 11.04 CD15:25
Kiloso dis goed dan15:25
Kilosinstaleer van die begin15:25
Kiloskan jy op die ander pc nog hier wees terwyl jy dit doen15:27
Kilosek weet nie of jy aparte partisies will maak nie?15:27
LangjanGoed ek maak so, dan gesels ons later. Oorweeg daai homeopaat, hy en sy Pa het al baie dinge gedoen wat die gewone medici as onmoontlik sien15:28
Kilosok install en doen sudo apt-get update15:29
Kilosdan sudo apt-get upgrade15:29
LangjanEk gaan die ekstra partisies wegvat, maar stel steeds belang in die backup pparyisie wat jy van praat 15:29
Langjanmaar ek kan nie met jou gesels terwyl ek dit doen nie15:30
Kiloso kan jy nie jou vrou se pc gebruik selle tyd nie15:31
Langjandit kan ons doen...15:31
Langjanmaar nie nou nie, sy is besig om fotos uit te sorteer15:31
Kilosek weet net hoe om aparte partisies te maak vir boot, root, home  en dan een vir backups of storage15:32
Kilosmaar superfly sal ons help ook ek dink15:32
Kilossuperfly, if Langjan does n clean install can you help him them make a partition for backup please15:33
Langjanwaarvoor is boot en root?  15:33
Kilosboot is your boot partition15:33
Kilosroot is al the info ubuntu uses15:33
Langjanwhat's a boot partition?15:33
Kilosboot is what a pc does when it starts up15:34
LangjanThat I understand, but a boot partition is as clear as mud15:35
Kilosbut is you install and let it use the whole drive i am sure one of the guys will help us get a backup partition on there for you15:35
Kilosoh15:35
Kilosi dont think most peeps use that way anymore15:35
LangjanI can create a separate partition while installing, keep it blank for future use?15:36
Kilosya15:36
LangjanOK will get back to you when it's done15:37
Kilosthe main advantage of separate partitions is you make a /home partition and keep that same one through all upgrades15:37
Kilosok if i am not online mail me15:38
Kilosor even sms if you like15:38
LangjanDoes that mean I will have a home partition on each of my hard drives?15:38
Kilosthere is a /home on all ubuntu drives15:39
Kilosbut making it separate means you can install other versions without losing anything in your home part15:39
LangjanNow I'm in the mud again - you just said I must create a separate home partition15:39
Kilosif you do then15:40
Kilosum15:40
Kilosfrom booting with the cd15:40
LangjanSo you separate the /home partition from the  main drive? 15:40
Kilosyou go advanced15:40
Kilosyip15:40
Langjando I have to do that while in the upgrade process? 15:41
Kilosin advanced you make a root partition first like about 20gig15:41
Kilosno15:41
Kilosupgrade will upgrade what you have there now15:42
Kilosso bumblebee still gonna bug you15:42
Kilosi think15:42
LangjanI mean clean install15:42
Kilosoh yes15:42
Kilosbut if you just let it install then you can make other partitions later 15:43
Kilosbut making a home then is massive work15:43
Langjanso you're saying it must be done simultaneously15:44
Kilosfrom the beginning15:45
Kiloswhen you boot from the cd15:45
Kilosyou go install15:45
Kilosthe in that first window15:45
Kilosyou go advanced15:45
Kilosthen you get the option to make your own partitions from scratch15:46
Kilosit takes careful reading of what goes where15:46
Kilosbut end result works great15:46
LangjanI think I must activate xchat on Juanita's machine when I do it so you can help when I get stuck15:47
Kilosyou will see the boot partition is /boot15:47
Kilosroot partition is /root15:47
Kilosmake boot about 6 gig15:48
Kilosand the rest spare15:48
Kilosor storage15:49
Langjanso there must be 3 partitions - 1 for the main OS, 1 for root and 1 for boot?15:49
Langjanhow big the root?15:49
Kilosyeah15:49
Kilosi use 6g /boot15:49
Langjanyou said so, and root?15:50
Kilos20g /root15:50
Kilos30g /home15:50
Langjanwhat's home? I thought that was the backup partition? so theres home, boot, root and spare? 4?   15:51
Kilosrest /storage15:51
Kilosso i think smaller would work too15:51
Kilosbut you have tons of space15:51
Kiloshome is all the stuff you see if you now go places home15:51
Kilosall your programs , settings etc15:52
Kiloseverything is in those 3 partitions15:52
Kilosyour whole ubuntu is in home15:52
Langjantotally konfoes! You said /home is the backup partition...? 15:53
Kilosoh sorry15:53
LangjanI think I must simply use my second drive as backup like I'm doing now, then do backups manually once a month or so 15:55
Kilosthe backup will be of your home15:55
Kilosso its also called home15:55
Kiloslook at places home15:55
Kilosall of that is what you backup to another folder in your storage called home15:55
Kilosthat works too15:56
Langjanso I back up home in home? Ek dink eks te oud vir die goeters15:56
Kilosi backup to an external drive15:56
Langjansame thing15:56
Langjanmine's just inside the box15:57
Kilosthat backup home is only a folder on another drive or partition15:57
Kiloswhy dont you do a clean install and just do regular backups15:59
Kilosthats easiest15:59
Kilosno need to make partitions for starters15:59
Kilosif you can make a spare space that fine15:59
Kiloskinda hard to explain in text without having it in front of you16:00
LangjanOK i'll do that  - partitioning is for another day16:02
Kilosok16:02
Kilosok16:02
LangjanTake care, & think about that homeopath. He is really excellent, but expensive...16:03
Kilosjust dont go looking for bumblebee again16:03
Kilosno option for that jan16:03
Langjanwhy not? sounds sexy, that's why I went there in the first place...16:03
Kiloslol16:03
Kilosi dont have income or pension etc16:04
Kiloswill survive dont worry16:04
Langjanmaybe it should be "bumbling," that's also what you do when you mess around.  16:04
Kilosit is for nvidia and you dont have a nvidia card so it cant work16:05
Kilosyou have intel onboard graphics16:05
Kilosso whatever ubuntu install from scratch should work16:05
LangjanSee you miles, meanwhile also search the Word about healing - it has been given to God's children to enjoy. 16:06
LangjanHe is the Great Healer of all time16:06
Kilosyip thats the only choice16:06
LangjanWill also speak to Him about your problem16:06
Kilosty that will be great16:07
Kilosyou are on xchat hey16:07
Kilosnow i mean16:07
LangjanTake care my friend, will chat again soon 16:07
Kilosty Langjan  you too16:08
Langjanek verstaan nie - ons chat dan op xchat?16:08
Kiloslook left16:08
Kilossee an extra channel there16:08
Kilosblue16:08
Langjanno16:09
Kiloswhat do you see16:09
Kilosevening all19:08
KilosMaaz, coffee on19:08
* Maaz washes some mugs19:08
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos!19:12
KilosMaaz, ty19:12
MaazEnjoy Kilos19:12
superflynaandsĂȘ oom kierend19:18
superfly*Kilos19:18
superflyyeesh kierend, you're messing up my tab completion! :-P19:18
Kiloslol19:18
Kilosnaande superfly 19:18
Kilosha ha19:18
Kilosyou a creature of habit i see19:19
Kilosnight all . sleep tight.19:23
tumbleweedkierend: home20:42
kierendwoot21:08
kierendso21:13
kierendi would be very grateful if leg would fund some pizza and maybe some drinks21:13
kierendtumbleweed: 21:14
tumbleweedkierend: kosie is probably the person to talk to21:15
tumbleweedkierend: I'll do my best to be there21:17
kierendoh, is he on the committee?21:19
tumbleweedyes21:19
kierendaaah21:19
kierendok21:19
tumbleweedof course my gut answer is yes21:19
kierendi didn't know this21:19
tumbleweedand if LEG can't clug can throw some money at it. Or I can. Or... whatever21:20
kierend:D21:22

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