[00:00] <werever> thanks again Gentoo64, I renaming .gconf before delete all conf files, cya
[00:00] <danny> userhost danny
[00:00] <dany> Si2100, what cmd to use for extract it
[00:00] <Kuwanger> I'm looking for a relatively cheap AGP graphics card that supports things like OpenGL 2.x, Shader Model 3, and has decent open source drivers.  Any ideas?
[00:00] <Si2100> dany, i do it manually
[00:01] <Si2100> dany, try this: tar jxvf compat-wireless-2.6.tar.bz2
[00:01] <Si2100> cd compat-wireless-20*
[00:01] <Si2100> ./scripts/driver-select atheros
[00:01] <Si2100> make
[00:01] <Si2100> sudo make install
[00:01] <FloodBot1> Si2100: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:01] <Si2100> Whooo, i predicted that =)
[00:02] <Relondo> Can someone help me with uninstalling and then reinstalling Ubuntu through the command line?
[00:03] <EvilResistance> you cant uninstall on an active system
[00:04] <brightspark> Relondo, once you uninstall Ubuntu, you don't /have/ a command line
[00:04] <EvilResistance> you'll need a livecd or an install cd to overwrite ubuntu
[00:04] <Relondo> I have one :)
[00:04] <Si2100> Why do you want ot do it form command line and not use GUI ?
[00:04] <Relondo> I need to do a sudo-grub install.
[00:04] <Relondo> Whatever that means.
[00:05] <Si2100> by anychange is the fact tat you cant boot into buunt ?
[00:05] <Si2100> ubunt ?
[00:05] <Si2100> ... Ubuntu ?
[00:05] <Relondo> Yes.
[00:05] <EvilResistance> Relondo:  is GRUB just not installing?
[00:05] <EvilResistance> oh that
[00:05] <Si2100> Yeah
[00:05] <Si2100> Relonda, look at this
[00:05] <EvilResistance> Relondo:  you dont need to reinstall ubuntu btw
[00:05] <Si2100> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajs9rO5upZA&feature=related
[00:05] <EvilResistance> Relondo:  just GRUB from a LiveCD
[00:05] <Si2100> i did this the smorning and it safed my ass
[00:05] <deltaray_> Check out the random shortened URL I got: https://bitly.com/ubUN2u
[00:05] <Relondo> Watching now.
[00:06] <dany> Si2100, done, what next
[00:06] <luis_> hello
[00:06] <Si2100> dany, you extacted the tar.. next you need to drag intsall.ph i think into the termiankl
[00:06] <luis_> i have a question, can someon point me in the right direction i am looking for help
[00:06] <iceroot> !ask | luis_
[00:06] <Si2100> lusi_ whats the question ?
[00:06] <dany> Si2100, how doing that
[00:07] <Si2100> open up the terminak
[00:07] <Relondo> Hey, how do I get back to GUI after switching to terminal?
[00:07] <luis_> i am using antiX-M11 wich is based in ubuntu-debian can someone point me in the right path to get some support?
[00:07] <WanderingEnder> Relondo: Ctrl-Alt-F7
[00:07] <Si2100> and look in the extracted folder for a file called " install. somink ?
[00:07] <iceroot> !alis | luis_
[00:07] <icarious> Which package manages the spell check for pidgin and systemwide??
[00:08] <luis_> ok thanks
[00:08] <popeium> I installed gnome tweak tools and enabled a shell extension to see the power off option always when i hit my name and then i used the command "r" to refresh the environment andthen everything went away, all i can see is the desktopp wallpaper, if i right click i can create folder and change backround but nothing else shwos and the menu and terminalkeyboard shortcuts dont work and the way i can log on and everything works is if when i log on
[00:08] <popeium> i use gnome classioc
[00:09] <dany> Si2100, how doing that
[00:09] <Si2100> dany, How to install it from the terminal ?
[00:10] <Relondo> Si2100, will this video help me even if I could never get to the grub in the first place?
[00:10] <Si2100> use a live CD
[00:10] <dany> Si2100, i extract the tar file what to do now
[00:10] <Si2100> dany, goto the extracted folder and drag intall.ph to the termianl
[00:11] <notlistening> 3g modems, I can get my 3g modem to detect on ubuntu server but can not get it to create the interfaces for ttyusb on boot any ideas?
[00:12] <notlistening> I have loaded all the related modules
[00:12] <notlistening> It has scsi storage on it aswell as another device
[00:12] <dany> Si2100, http://paste.ubuntu.com/771739/
[00:13] <Si2100> OKie
[00:13] <Womkes> own3dtv down ?
[00:13] <Si2100> go to compat-wireless-3.2-rc1-1  and look for a file nameed " install"
[00:13] <dany> Si2100, there is no install.ph
[00:13] <popeium> I installed gnome tweak tools and enabled a shell extension to see the power off option always when i hit my name and then i used the command "r" to refresh the environment andthen everything went away, all i can see is the desktop wallpaper, if i right click i can create folder and change backround but nothing else shows and  keyboard shortcuts dont work  so im stuck and i have to physically shut down the computer and the way i can log on a
[00:13] <popeium> nd everything works is if when i choose  gnome classic but ubuntu and gnome and user defined sessions all do the same thing
[00:13] <Si2100> dany, in there anythink called install ?
[00:14] <dany> Si2100, no nothing
[00:14] <Si2100> okie am just downloading it now
[00:14] <brightspark> dany, why don't you give us a ls pastebin from inside the compat-wireless directory?
[00:14] <brightspark> might be able to spot it
[00:15] <Relondo> Can anyone help me fix my graphics card being incompatible with Ubuntu?
[00:15] <slakcphil> when running hdparm, what does the MB stand for... meagabytes or megabits?
[00:15] <Si2100> Relondo, is it ATI ?
[00:15] <EvilResistance> Relondo:  what card?
[00:15] <Relondo> Si2100, Yep.
[00:15] <EvilResistance> ah
[00:15] <Si2100> whats the issie xD
[00:15] <slakcphil> excuse me hdparm -tT
[00:15] <Si2100> brightspark, it looks like you have to compile your own dirver...
[00:15] <Digital_Lemon> how can i copy a file to a folder with a file with that name already, and append incremental number on the new file?
[00:15] <Relondo> I'm actually trying to install Ubuntu on two different computers, and both are having trouble.
[00:16] <Si2100> whats teh issue ?
[00:16] <Relondo> Anyway, the problem is that Ubuntu has no video.
[00:16] <Si2100> arrr
[00:16] <lloowen> Hello all! Is there anyone here dual booting using Ubuntu and w*****s ? I'm asking as I'm wondering how anyone has solved it using Dropbox. I've seen several solutions on the internet but no mention to what file system to use. Ubuntu cannot write to an NTFS partition, yes?
[00:16] <dany> brightspark, http://paste.ubuntu.com/771739/
[00:16] <slakcphil> lloowen, install the ntfs-3g
[00:16] <brightspark> Si2100, do you get a makefile at least?
[00:16] <slakcphil> and it will write
[00:16] <Relondo> I can hear it, but the only thing I see is what I believe is the grub, and some horizontal white lines.
[00:17] <Relondo> *is the grub. Not I believe.
[00:17] <slakcphil> Relondo that sounds like a bad video card
[00:17] <brightspark> dany, that's from within your home directory, not the compat-wireless one
[00:17] <Relondo> Yeah, I know the problem. I don't know how to fix, though.
[00:17] <lloowen> slakcphil: Do you mean create a shared patition that both operative systems could write to?
[00:17] <Si2100> brightspark: http://paste.ubuntu.com/771740/
[00:17] <slakcphil> Relondo does it during the bios splash?
[00:17] <Si2100> brightspark, yeah you get a make files
[00:18] <Si2100> brightspark, and a read me on how doo to do
[00:18] <Relondo> Bios splash? As in, when Ubuntu first starts up and should show the little purple box with people in it?
[00:18] <slakcphil> lloowen, yeah that would work,
[00:18] <slakcphil> Relondo, like when it says toshiba or dell
[00:18] <Si2100> brightspark, dany, http://paste.ubuntu.com/771741/
[00:18] <dany> brightspark, can install teamviewer and access to my system
[00:19] <Relondo> Oh, yeah, I figured that's what you were talking about, but couldn't see why the graphics card would matter there. No, there's no problem there, or with regular windows.
[00:19] <Relondo> (I am trying to dualboot Windows 7 and Ubuntu)
[00:19] <Si2100> i got that
[00:20] <brightspark> Si2100, sounds like you just run make install and you've got it
[00:21] <ap> Hello, does anybody know how to get into an bricked android mobile using command line in ubuntu? any gurus out there?
[00:21] <Si2100> However, that parts beyoung my understadning...
[00:21] <ap> ...via usb
[00:21] <Si2100> brb
[00:21] <meganerd> ap: It depends on the android device
[00:21] <roly> hola alguien habla español?
[00:21] <iceroot> ap: #android
[00:21] <escott> !es | roly
[00:22] <ap> hello meganerd , it's a htc G1 android
[00:22] <Relondo> Hablo algun espanol....
[00:22] <dany> brightspark, I'm not familar with linux , can u plz guid me step by step
[00:22] <roly> join ubuntu-es
[00:23] <tonsofpcs> un poco, pero #ubuntu-es
[00:23] <dany> brightspark, download  here and access to my system
[00:24] <roly> jjaa me estoy cambiando de canal y lo escribi mal
[00:24] <brightspark> dany, this is a best guess, if you'd rather wait for Si2100 to get back that's fine.  I think you need to open a terminal, "cd compat-wireless-3.2-rc1-1", "sudo make install"
[00:25] <brightspark> then reboot
[00:26] <dany> brightspark, http://paste.ubuntu.com/771746/
[00:26] <dany> brightspark, what next
[00:27] <brightspark> dany, you should reboot and check if it works.  I need to go in a minute, good luck
[00:28] <dany> brightspark, ok just tell me how to check it when reboot
[00:28] <brightspark> dany, click the wireless icon and see if you can see your router.
[00:29] <brightspark> dany, or whatever wireless device you were trying to find in the first place
[00:31] <slakcphil> Relondo, ahh ok, yeah you can't even get a tty4 console?
[00:31] <zulutango> Greetings...how can I install the sun java on ubuntu 11.04? I've searched google but didn't found anything.
[00:32] <zulutango> I downloaded the self extracting file from the official website and I have a bin file...did run it in the terminal but what now?:)
[00:32] <Tech-1> its not in the repositories ?
[00:33] <SwedeMike> zulutango: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[00:33] <Resistance> Tech-1:  no, Java isnt in the repositories since 11.10
[00:33] <Resistance> Tech-1:  because Oracle changed the license
[00:33] <Tech-1> huh
[00:33] <Resistance> oh nevermind
[00:33] <Tech-1> i c
[00:33] <ap> iceroot, the info on Android server is erratic and I'm thinking there might be more chance of getting in there if I install an Ubuntu app and connect using the usb
[00:33] <pingveno> Is there a way to automate changing something in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ during a dist-upgrade?
[00:34] <sumosu> hm i could swear i had an auto update on sun java today... maybe its in another repo?
[00:34] <pingveno> Like, changing maverick => natty
[00:34] <micahf> hey, i'm having trouble with grub on my macbook, it says: "Missing OS"
[00:35] <sumosu> o wait i'm on 11.04
[00:35] <micahf> i've tried reinstalling it and cannot get it to work
[00:37] <dany> hi guys , i have teamviewer installed and hope someone help me to connect my wireless i can provide u my teaviewer id and pass to access
[00:39] <Resistance> dany:  usually people dont use teamviewer here
[00:39] <Resistance> dany:  what exactly is your issue?
[00:39] <WanderingEnder> When I apt-get installed the package linux-igd in 10.04 LTS, I am missing files that packages.ubuntu.com show as being in the file list.
[00:39] <WanderingEnder> What apt- command will reinstall the package?
[00:40] <Resistance> WanderingEnder:  apt-get install --reinstall ?
[00:40] <WanderingEnder> That would work, yes. I have never had apt fail befure. :)
[00:40] <raven> because of a mistake i deleted my /var folder and apt and dpkg now return errors because of /var/cache/.... - how to repair that?
[00:40] <dany> Resistance, Lot of ppl tried to help but no result , my ubuntu 10.04 can't connect to wireless
[00:40] <Resistance> dany:  define "can't connect"
[00:41] <WanderingEnder> dany: What specific error message do you get? What did you do, what did you expect to happen, what actually happened?
[00:42] <Resistance> ^
[00:42] <dany> WanderingEnder, I even have no idea if my driver is installed , but it's working fine with windows 7
[00:42] <Resistance> dany:  pastebin the output of lspci | grep network
[00:42] <Resistance> !pastebin > dany
[00:43] <raven> because of a mistake i deleted my /var folder and apt and dpkg now return errors because of /var/cache/.... - how to repair that?
[00:44] <Resistance> !repeat | raven
[00:44] <MahaVishnu> dany$ did you ever check the drivers gui app like we said ?
[00:46] <dany> AhaVishnu, i forgot , but i have tar the file and installed it
[00:46] <dany> AhaVishnu, what next
[00:46] <MahaVishnu> you installed a driver from source?
[00:48] <dany> MahaVishnu, http://paste.ubuntu.com/771758/
[00:49] <MahaVishnu>   well did you install that or something?
[00:50] <abc> mother fucker
[00:50] <abc> mother fucker
[00:50] <abc> mother fucker
[00:50] <FloodBot1> abc: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:50] <[snake]> I've been looking all over for how to boot into tty1 without automatically gdm-ing but no luck. May someone assist me? (Ubuntu 10.04 x86_64 GNOME-2.30.2)
[00:51] <dany> MahaVishnu, http://paste.ubuntu.com/771758/
[00:51] <Relondo> slakcphil, Sorry, I was AFK.
[00:52] <dany> MahaVishnu, i installed that but still not working
[00:52] <MahaVishnu> how did you install it?? make and configure ?
[00:52] <dany> MahaVishnu, i can give you my id and pass for my teamviewer and get access to my system
[00:52] <[snake]> or at least a way to temporarily stop x11/gdm after I boot up. any suggestions?
[00:52] <micahf> what does "Missing OS" mean on grub?
[00:53] <micahf> i can boot with supergrubdisk
[00:53] <MahaVishnu> dany$ I don't think it's a good idea to give people connection that you don't know..
[00:53] <micahf> but my actual partition isn't booting!
[00:53] <Awhman> Ok so I need some help =/ I want bouncy icons like on mac and I found this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CairoDock guide but my ubuntu is newer then the versions listed...
[00:53] <Awhman> will it still work?
[00:53] <[snake]> micahf, perhaps it doesn't have the adequate information for booting into your actual partition.
[00:53] <MahaVishnu> dany$ can you just tell me what commands you used to install that driver? also how did you determine that was the correct driver
[00:54] <micahf> er, i should clarify, supergrubdisk finds my grub configuration and lets me boot, but going through the mbr doesn't get me to the grub menu
[00:54] <micahf> when i boot up without supergrubdisk, i just get "Missing OS\n Cannot boot..."
[00:54] <micahf> it seems more like an EFI or MBR issue
[00:54] <[snake]> MahaVishnu, teamviewer is completely safe for viewing a teamate's (or technical support)'s computer.
[00:55] <[snake]> boot into a live cd... chroot (mount proc etc) then update-grub
[00:55] <amaroks> what ubuntu rename httpd binary to?
[00:55] <Relondo> So does anyone know how to make my ubuntu-incompatible ATI graphics card compatible?
[00:56] <Tech-1> Relondo:  does hardware drivers not work ?
[00:56] <[snake]> Relondo, does it come up with anything in jockey-gtk?
[00:56] <micahf> [snake] is that any different from doing update-grub from the partition i want to boot? cause i can boot to it, i just have to use supergrubdisk
[00:56] <Relondo> [snake], jockey-gtk?
[00:56] <dany> MahaVishnu, i did this http://paste.ubuntu.com/771764/
[00:57] <[snake]> micahf, yes, obviously update-grub on the partition that you'd like to update-grub on.
[00:57] <IHateHavingToReg> so if i send an email to me@mydomain.com, it shows up in the Maildir but I can't use "mail" to access it or anything. Does anyone know why this is happening? I'm using ... Postfix, I think it's called
[00:57] <Relondo> Tech-1, All I know is that when I boot to Ubuntu, there is no video, just sound. I was told by fizyplankton that it's an incompatible graphics card.
[00:57] <[snake]> Relondo, the Restricted Drivers in System>administration
[00:57] <MahaVishnu> dany$ you need to do ./configure first and let the part finish then do make then do make install. you might need sudo for some of these.
[00:57] <Tech-1> did you try sudo service gdm start ?
[00:57] <Tech-1> then startx
[00:58] <Relondo> I'm being bombarded with many things that I do not know about. I am very new to all of this Ubuntu stuff.
[00:58] <[snake]> Tech-1, no, I want to stop it. :P stop x11, and gdm etc (anything gui) so that I can be in tty1 for a time.
[00:58] <romrioblackboy> vai
[00:58] <Relondo> So, I'm sorry if I take some extra explaining.
[00:58] <Tech-1> Relondo:  or, hold the shift key at boot, wait for grub menu then boot to safe graphics mode
[00:58] <Relondo> [snake] I still don't know what your talking about.
[00:59] <romrioblackboy> im brasil
[00:59] <Relondo> Tech-1, I tried that. Nothing happened.
[00:59] <[snake]> Relondo, what version are you on?
[00:59] <Gentoo64> [snake]: i think you can add noX or text to the kernel line, but why do you wana be in a console?
[00:59] <Relondo> [snake], 11.10
[00:59] <MahaVishnu> [snake]$ you want to kill x completely ?
[00:59] <[snake]> Relondo, I cannot help you, I am inexperienced with that version.
[00:59] <amaroks> anyone please??
[00:59] <dany> MahaVishnu, http://paste.ubuntu.com/771766/
[01:00] <Relondo> [snake], I was told the problem was mostly universal.
[01:00] <MahaVishnu> dany$ I don't speak german
[01:00] <romrioblackboy> im no inglis
[01:00] <[snake]> MahaVishnu, yeah I want to kill x (until the time that I reboot)
[01:00] <MahaVishnu> dany$ make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.34-020634-generic/build: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type. Arrêt.    in english ?
[01:00] <Relondo> romrioblackboy, No hablas ingles?
[01:01] <MahaVishnu> [snake]$ sudo service lightdm stop
[01:01] <dany> MahaVishnu, It's french , menas there is no file or folder with this type
[01:01] <romrioblackboy> conect remote now
[01:02] <romrioblackboy> pleas
[01:02] <MahaVishnu> !headers | dany
[01:02] <Relondo> Tech-1 So do you have any ideas?
[01:03] <Relondo> Tech-1, So do you have any ideas?
[01:03] <[snake]> MahaVishnu, unrecognised service... should I replace that with gdm ;-)
[01:03] <MahaVishnu> [snake] yea if thats what  you are using
[01:03] <dany> MahaVishnu, how to change language to english
[01:03] <MahaVishnu> dany$ I am not sure as I do not use gnome/unity
[01:04] <MahaVishnu> system prefs ?
[01:04] <Relondo> Isn't gnome built into Ubuntu?
[01:04] <MahaVishnu> no
[01:04] <Tech-1> Relondo:  sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup    then   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:04] <MahaVishnu> its a desktop manager
[01:04] <Relondo> Tech-1, Put that into the command line?
[01:04] <Relondo> MahaVishnu, Ah. Thanks.
[01:05] <Tech-1> Relondo:  when you first boot, try ctrl+alt+f1
[01:05] <Tech-1> from there you should be able to do that
[01:05] <Relondo> Tech-1, I'm there. Trying it now.
[01:05] <Tech-1> ok
[01:06] <dany> MahaVishnu, http://paste.ubuntu.com/771768/
[01:07] <Relondo> Tech-1, It says : cp: cannot stat `/etc/X11/xorg.conf ': No such file or directory
[01:07] <MahaVishnu> dany$ that is an old kernel what ub untu version you on>
[01:08] <Tech-1> then do the second and reboot
[01:08] <dany> MahaVishnu, ubuntu 10.04
[01:08] <MahaVishnu> dany do uname -r
[01:09] <Tech-1> Relondo:  some times xserver is picky, and you may have to do it a couple times
[01:09] <Tech-1> just be patient
[01:09] <dany> MahaVishnu, 2.6.34-020634-generic
[01:09] <Relondo> It responded with "ubuntu@ubuntu:~$" four times.
[01:09] <Relondo> Is that normal?
[01:10] <tiago_> ola
[01:10] <MahaVishnu> dany$ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile see that and install everything for 10.04
[01:10] <dany> MahaVishnu, okay
[01:10] <Tech-1> Relondo:  now boot and go to recovery mode and see if you can get safe graphics
[01:11] <Arizona_Bay> hey guys what is the best messenger to receive and send custom emoticons?
[01:12] <Relondo> Tech-1, How do I get to recovery mode?
[01:12] <Arizona_Bay> i should include from different messenger clients
[01:12] <Tech-1> Relondo:  at reboot, hold the shift key and go to recovery
[01:12] <Tech-1> when grub menu shows up
[01:13] <Relondo> I held shift, and the options are: Try Ubuntu without installing, Install Ubuntu, Check disc for defects, Test memory, Boot from first hard disk
[01:13] <Relondo> And then there are F1-6 options.
[01:13] <aDboy> how do I get access to an external hard drive's files in 11.10 gui?
[01:13] <Tech-1> do you have the disc in ?
[01:13] <aDboy> I tried chmod to no avail
[01:13] <Relondo> Yep.
[01:13] <Tech-1> lol, take it out
[01:14] <Relondo> And restart again?
[01:14] <tiago_> OLA
[01:14] <Tech-1> and boot to recovery like i said befoe
[01:14] <tiago_> Someone can help me?
[01:14] <Tech-1> before
[01:14] <seidos> aDboy: did you try chown?
[01:14] <Resistance> aDboy:  did you mount the external drive?
[01:14] <tiago_> i need translate MAN PAGE TO PORTUGUESE BRAZIL
[01:15] <tiago_> ALGUEM PODE ME AJUDAR
[01:15] <Relondo> So I need to restart, and when it says "F11 to start recovery" do that
[01:15] <aDboy> seidos: yes, unsucessefully
[01:15] <tiago_> SOMEONE CAN HELP ME???
[01:15] <Relondo> ?
[01:15] <MahaVishnu> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.34-020634-generic   does that work for you?
[01:15] <Resistance> !caps | tiago_
[01:15] <aDboy> Resistance: yes, I can see the files in the terminal
[01:15] <MahaVishnu> dany ^^
[01:15] <tiago_> hi
[01:15] <Tech-1> Relondo:  do as i said before, hold the shift, when grub shows up go to recovery
[01:15] <aDboy> Resistance: it's just that I would like to drag an old json file into ff
[01:16] <sam22> hail ! people of this channel
[01:16] <sam22> hail british people !!
[01:16] <sam22> o/
[01:16] <Relondo> But holding shift does nothing unless Ubuntu disk is in.
[01:16] <Resistance> !privmsg | tiago_
[01:16] <Resistance> WTH
[01:16] <Arizona_Bay> hey guys what is the best messenger to receive and send custom emoticons? I should include from different messenger clients
[01:16] <Resistance> !pm | tiago_
[01:16] <Tech-1> huh, maybe the install is borked then
[01:16] <dany> MahaVishnu, it seems as i'm not going to get any result , anyway thanks a lot for your time
[01:16] <Relondo> Does it matter which shift?
[01:17] <Tech-1> Relondo:  try a normal boot, see what happens
[01:17] <tiago_> Resistance
[01:17] <tiago_> you can help me?
[01:17] <Resistance> no i cant
[01:17] <Resistance> so dont ask me for help, tiago_
[01:17] <Relondo> A normal boot goes to windows.
[01:17] <tiago_> thx
[01:17] <Resistance> i'm not a translator
[01:17] <Tech-1> Relondo:  so grub is missing ?
[01:17] <Relondo> Yes.
[01:18] <Relondo> I think I might have a fix for that, though. Hold on a few minutes.
[01:18] <Tech-1> Relondo:  try this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajs9rO5upZA
[01:18] <aDboy> from the terminal I can see the file but I can only open it up via firefox
[01:18] <Relondo> Already got it open :)
[01:18] <Tech-1> ok
[01:18] <Tech-1> put grub back in and do a normal boot
[01:19] <Relondo> Sadly, this particular laptop is older (The main reason I want Ubuntu on it), and cannot boot from USB. So I have to boot from CD, which is horrendously slow.
[01:19] <tiago_> i install the translat .... but her not be.... NORMAL
[01:19] <Tech-1> Relondo:  how much ram do you have
[01:20] <Relondo> Well, I'm trying to install it on two laptops, but the one we're talking about right now has half a gig.
[01:20] <aDboy> seidos: I am experiencing difficulties because I am running 11.10 off a usb stick
[01:20] <Tech-1> thats ok, but still alittle slow
[01:20] <skilz> Relondo: Have you checked if there is a bios update to enable boot from USB?
[01:20] <aDboy> seidos: so I am not sure the name and path I shoudl take
[01:21] <Relondo> skilz, I have not.
[01:21] <aDboy> is there a way to have root access via gnome?
[01:21] <Tech-1> Relondo:  what kind is it
[01:21] <Relondo> It's a Gateway.
[01:21] <Tech-1> 1.8 g ?
[01:21] <Relondo> What now?
[01:21] <airtonix> i need a centralised music server for the office that lets co-workers vote on the next song to play. song should be sourced from streaming radio
[01:21] <Tech-1> processor
[01:21] <skilz> aDboy: What do you mean root access via gnome?
[01:21] <Relondo> I think it's like 1.7
[01:21] <Tech-1> i c
[01:22] <Relondo> Single core. Good lord, it's slow.
[01:22] <Tech-1> so your working with 266 speed ram
[01:22] <Relondo> Lol, yeah.
[01:22] <Relondo> I think?
[01:22] <Tech-1> i c
[01:22] <skilz> Relondo: Look on the Gateway site for a firmware/bios update for your particular model laptop.
[01:22] <needhelp1> how can i add a new page to the ubuntu wiki?
[01:22] <sam22> 266Mhz RAM ?
[01:22] <sam22> very fast
[01:22] <Tech-1> n
[01:23] <aDboy> skilz: in the terminal I did sudo passwd root.  so I got access to my files. but when I go through the gui- sorry new to the new ubuntu gui- I am told I don't have permission
[01:23] <Relondo> I will, if I don't get it fixed from this CD boot.
[01:23] <skilz> I'm only using an old IBM Thinkpad G40, 1GB Ram, 2.40Ghz Pentium 4, 32GB HDD.
[01:23] <Resistance> needhelp1:  you need to login to the ubuntu single sign on for the wiki first, then navigate to the page you think needs creating, and then there's a create link on it
[01:23] <Resistance> s/on it/there/
[01:23] <Resistance> if i remember correctly at least
[01:23] <skilz> aDboy: root password is auto scrambled for security.
[01:23] <needhelp1> Resistance, im signed in, searching for the page i want to create, its not offering a link to create it though
[01:23] <needhelp1> Resistance, ill try agin
[01:23] <Tech-1> thats pretty good ski_
[01:24] <Tech-1> skilz:
[01:24] <tiago_> Need help with install translate MAN PAGE for ubuntu
[01:24] <aDboy> skilz: I set the root password though
[01:24] <Resistance> needhelp1:  can i /query you?
[01:24] <aDboy> I can view the files in terminal, just not in the gui
[01:24] <tiago_> need help with install translate MAN PAGE for ubuntu
[01:24] <Relondo> Well, my other laptop (the one with an incompatible  graphics card) is a decent Toshiba L775D. Quad core AMD 2.4GHZ, Radeon 6520M Graphics, 4GB RAM.
[01:24] <skilz> Tech-1: http://ompldr.org/vYnJkeg/scrot.png <--- Thats my laptop screen
[01:24] <Resistance> !repeat | tiago_
[01:24] <needhelp1> Resistance, what do you  mean?
[01:24]  * Tech-1 looks
[01:24] <Resistance> needhelp1:  /query = /pm = /msg = privmsg
[01:25] <needhelp1> Resistance, yes
[01:25] <tiago_> I look for all
[01:25] <tiago_> but someone have repost for my question
[01:25] <skilz> Only 1024x768 screen :/
[01:25] <tiago_> tutorial halp explain
[01:25] <tiago_> half***
[01:25] <Tech-1> Yeah skilz  i just tried slack ouppy 5.3 looks good
[01:25] <skilz> aDboy: You shouldn't why did you do that? What exactly are you trying to do?
[01:25] <Tech-1> puppy
[01:26] <Relondo> Tech-1, what are your specs?
[01:26] <tiago_> if i find a solution don't be here... read your "pitico"
[01:26] <skilz> Tech-1: like my Conky and fluxbox theme?
[01:26] <Tech-1> Yeah
[01:26] <aDboy> skilz: I am trying to view an old json file I have on an external hd on firefox
[01:26] <tiago_> my english is very bad, i know
[01:27] <skilz> aDboy: What's a json file?
[01:27] <aDboy> skilz: but when I click on the folder, it says I don't have permission to view the files
[01:27] <aDboy> skilz: the file where old ff bookmark backups are stored
[01:27] <skilz> aDboy: sudo chmod 644 filenamre
[01:27] <escott> aDboy, this has nothing to do with being root or not. most likely the external hard drive is fat32. unmount it, and as your normal user mount it with udisks mount /dev/whatever
[01:27] <nac4l> Is there a way to see a package's version info without reinstalling/installing it?
[01:28] <trism> nac4l: apt-cache policy package_name
[01:28] <aDboy> skilz: thank you. I will try that
[01:28] <escott> aDboy, udisks --mount /dev/whatever
[01:28] <skilz> nac4l: package --version
[01:28] <Tech-1> skilz:  http://imagebin.org/188773
[01:28] <aDboy> escott: thanks
[01:28] <OldOneEye> how do i install kde instead of gnome on ubuntu desktop
[01:28] <tiago_> ALguem pode me ajudar? -- someone can help me?
[01:28] <skilz> OldOneEye: sudo apt-get install kde
[01:29] <IHateHavingToReg> so if i send an email to me@mydomain.com, it shows up in the Maildir but I can't use "mail" to access it or anything. Does anyone know why this is happening? I'm using ... Postfix, I think it's called
[01:29] <skilz> OldOneEye: Then logout and select it from GDM/Lightdm.
[01:29] <aDboy> escott: it's an ubuntu partition though
[01:29] <escott> aDboy, then the userid is different. if you want that folder to be available to your user (and dont need it for some other system) you can sudo chown -R username:username the folder
[01:30] <OldOneEye> i wanna uninstall gnome and just have kde
[01:30] <diverdude> How do i get a list of all files installed by a specific package?
[01:30] <aDboy> escott: really appreciate it.
[01:31] <escott> OldOneEye, unless you are pressed for disk space there isn't much reason to uninstall anything, just install kubuntu-desktop
[01:31] <bubbles|> i followed this guide to set up auth-file based ssh, but it fails on ssh-copy-id with "no identities found", what am i doing wrong? or does the tutorial have an error? http://code.google.com/p/mysql-cacti-templates/wiki/SSHBasedTemplates
[01:31] <trism> diverdude: dpkg -L package_name
[01:31] <MahaVishnu> diverdude$ sudo dpkg -L package
[01:31] <skilz> Tech-1: Awesome wallpaper, star going into blackhole?
[01:31] <Boom_Farmer> How do I initialize a new hard drive? It's a 250 GB WD3500JB plugged in using a SATA->USB cable and appearing in dmesg at /dev/sdc
[01:31] <Tech-1> Yeah
[01:31] <skilz> Where you get it from?
[01:32] <tiago_> BOOM_FARMER
[01:32] <escott> aDboy, having a root password is discouraged. you can lock the root account with passwd -l root, and then use sudo to get root access when you need it
[01:32] <MahaVishnu> Boom_Farmer$ make a dir. make sure you own the dir. and then mount it to the dir
[01:32] <Tech-1> google space wallpaper
[01:32] <tiago_> leave...
[01:32] <diverdude> strange...bcuz when i write sudo dpkg -L apache2 it only gives me folders in /usr
[01:32] <diverdude> but i know there are also files in /etc
[01:33] <Boom_Farmer> MahaVishnu: by "initialize" I mean "create a partition table and partitions". The drive is fresh-from-the-factory, bare-as-a-baby's-behind blank.
[01:33] <MahaVishnu> Boom_Farmer$ for a gui use gparted
[01:33] <trism> diverdude: apache2 has several packages, dpkg -l 'apache2*'
[01:33] <ahmed> fff
[01:33] <Boom_Farmer> Gparted's not seeing it, since it isn't mounted. And it can't be mounted because it doesn't have a filesystem, if I understand what's going on correctly.
[01:34] <bubbles|> i followed this guide to set up auth-file based ssh, but it fails on ssh-copy-id with "no identities found", what am i doing wrong? or does the tutorial have an error? http://code.google.com/p/mysql-cacti-templates/wiki/SSHBasedTemplates
[01:35] <Boom_Farmer> MahaVishnu: Or, hmm. Is it possible to mount a disk that has no filesystem?
[01:35] <wookienz> hi, i am looking for a command that will traverse a directory structure and look in php files for a particualr search term. Any ideas?
[01:36] <MahaVishnu> Boom_Farmer$ you dont want to use gparted on a mounted disk. and you cannot mount a disk with no file system. casue you really mount the file system..
[01:36] <jrib> bubbles|: I have to go but I suggest you pastebin what *you* did not link to the tutorial :)
[01:37] <MahaVishnu> Boom_Farmer$ where is it showing up as /dev/sdc ?
[01:37] <IHateHavingToReg> so if i send an email to me@mydomain.com, it shows up in the Maildir but I can't use "mail" to access it or anything. Does anyone know why this is happening? I'm using ... Postfix, I think it's called
[01:37] <Boom_Farmer> wookienz: Have you tried running   grep "particularsearchterm"   in the directory that you want to search?
[01:37] <Boom_Farmer> MahaVishnu: In dmesg.
[01:38] <asava> wookienz, look into ack-grep
[01:38] <Relondo> Tech-1, How do I get to the terminal from the GUI?
[01:38] <asava> perl script that does just that
[01:38] <Tech-1> Relondo:  ctrl+alt+f1
[01:38] <Boom_Farmer> MahaVishnu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/771774/
[01:38] <Relondo> Thanks
[01:38] <MahaVishnu> Boom_Farmer$ does fdisk see it ?
[01:39] <Pici> wookienz: If theres only php files in that path then: grep -R "words" /path/ , if there are other files and you dont want to look in them: find /path/ -iname "*.php" -exec grep -H "words" {} \;
[01:39] <wookienz> Pici: thanks.
[01:40] <skilz> Tech-1: Can you link me to it? I can't find it.
[01:40] <Tech-1> lemme look
[01:40] <escott> bubbles|, i would not follow that tutorial. you should not be granting anyone access to your id_rsa much less www-data
[01:40] <aDboy> escott: no dice.  I tried "sudo chown -R ubuntu:ubuntu /.mozilla"
[01:40] <bubbles|> it's not my id_rsa, it's a specially generated one for that user
[01:41] <Boom_Farmer> MahaVishnu: Short answer: No. Storytime: I had a drive mounted at /dev/sdb . I ran `sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb' and could see the drive. I unmounted /dev/sdb . Re-ran `sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb/' and cfdisk said it couldn't access the drive. In the same fashion, when I run `sudo cfdisk /dev/sdc', cfdisk tells me that it cannot see the drive.
[01:41] <bubbles|> and it's just to interface different machines that are all mine
[01:41] <aDboy> escott: and it tells me no such directory even though I can "cd .mozilla"
[01:41] <MahaVishnu> Boom_Farmer$ tried different usb ports ?
[01:41] <maum> how to terminate the terminal by which command?
[01:41] <optimusm> if i dual boot ubuntu and vista and my vista goes corrupted and i have ubuntu on a seperate partition will it be over writtene?
[01:42] <optimusm> over written if i reinstall vista
[01:42] <MahaVishnu> Boom_Farmer$ story time: I have a 1tb sata hd that was in a usb enclosure box. the usb part went bad but I was able to hook the drive up directly via sata and it worked fine...
[01:42] <escott> aDboy, your external drive will be mounted (attached to the filesystem) somewhere in /media so "cd /media; ls" and then find that and cd into that
[01:42] <Boom_Farmer> I got no SATA ports on this box. It's a laptop.
[01:43] <aDboy> escott: right.  thank you.
[01:43] <escott> bubbles|, ok. i was confused by the root www-data ownership of the file. thought it was /root/.ssh/id_rsa
[01:44] <urlin2u> Boom_Farmer, is this the WD that has the built in flash?
[01:44] <Tech-1> skilz:  its in here some where:  http://www.spacewallpapers.net/wallpapers/
[01:44]  * Boom_Farmer tries a different port, not showing up in dmesg yet, will wait and try in a bit.
[01:44] <MahaVishnu> Boom_Farmer$ it looks like its working but if you are not seeing it in any apps then I am not sure besides it could be an sata over usb bug or something. and you are sure the hd is good ?
[01:44] <Boom_Farmer> urlin2u: Good heavens no. This is just a plain WD HDD.
[01:44] <bubbles|> i guess root is needed just to create the file .. www-data will be using it later on
[01:44] <Boom_Farmer> MahaVishnu: I am neither sure nor unsure that the HDD is goof.
[01:44] <Boom_Farmer> s/goof/good/
[01:44] <Tech-1> skilz:  http://www.spacewallpapers.net/wallpapers/displayimage.php?album=10&pos=22
[01:45] <Tech-1> im done
[01:45] <MahaVishnu> Boom_Farmer$ have a good one you can plug in the same setup to confirm the setup works ?
[01:45] <bubbles|> copying the file myself works fine (the login works too) but doing it using ssh-copy-id fails
[01:45] <escott> bubbles|, I would expect ssh to complain about that. it just doesn't look right. if its not working see if that is the cause by running ssh in verbose mode "-v" switch can be repeated
[01:45] <MahaVishnu> Boom_Farmer$ dmesg | grep ATA no errors
[01:45] <MahaVishnu> ?
[01:46] <Boom_Farmer> MahaVishnu: I do not have an initialized disk of the same model, but I might have another blank disk of the same model laying about.
[01:46] <diverdude> When i run sudo apache2 -M i get: apache2: bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER}. What is this problem and how do i fix it?
[01:46] <Boom_Farmer> No errors when I grep dmesg
[01:46] <MahaVishnu> Boom_Farmer$ a blank disk should show up in fdisk or gparted.
[01:47] <urlin2u> optimusm, convoluted question, something is only overwritten if you let it.
[01:47] <bubbles|> # ssh-copy-id -vvv -p 954 -i /etc/cacti/id_rsa.pub cacti@localhost
[01:47] <bubbles|> /usr/bin/ssh-copy-id: ERROR: No identities found
[01:47] <MahaVishnu> Boom_Farmer$ if you can't get the pc to show any disk over the usb wire then maybe it is the problem somehow just trying to rule things out
[01:48] <urlin2u> Boom_Farmer, hopefully it is not one of the few that won't run in linux manufactured by them.
[01:48] <MahaVishnu> that would suck. urlin2u is there a list of those models so he can see?
[01:48] <Boom_Farmer> MahaVishnu: I know. If I had a Live CD handy I'd pop the disk in my SATA tower and try formatting it directly, but I don't.
[01:48] <Boom_Farmer> Let me go grab the other disk.
[01:48] <escott> bubbles|, i think you need to tell ssh-copy-id to use the id_rsa not the public key. it knows to only copy the public key, but it wants to verify you have a valid keypair first
[01:49] <MahaVishnu> Boom_Farmer$ make a usb disk ? got a usb thumb drive?
[01:49] <bubbles|> oh, ok
[01:49] <Boom_Farmer> The tower's too old to boot from USB.
[01:49] <aDboy> escott: thank you. it worked.
[01:50] <bubbles|> still the same
[01:50] <bubbles|> is there a chance that a vital step is missing in the tutorial?
[01:51] <urlin2u> MahaVishnu, I didn't see any link with that model actually only one google hit with the model given and ubuntu. I only know tha there are a few from some time on the ubuntu forums, the list of them I don't know.
[01:52] <MahaVishnu> ok.
[01:52] <Relondo> Tech-1, I am having problems installing the grub.
[01:53] <Tech-1> !grub
[01:53] <escott> bubbles|, does the key exist in /etc/cacti? i dont think there is anything wrong, but the way it is doing things is strange to say the least
[01:54] <Boom_Farmer> O.o
[01:54] <bubbles|> # ls /etc/cacti/
[01:54] <bubbles|> apache.conf  debian.php  id_pub  id_pub.pub  id_rsa  id_rsa.pub
[01:54] <Boom_Farmer> Okay, tried with second disk of same model, which shows up fine in cfdisk now.
[01:54] <bubbles|> permissions are 600/644
[01:54] <Relondo> Tech-1, I'm all the way past mounting drives and such, everything has worked so far, but when I type "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" it says "sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu" and then "sudo: grub: command not found"
[01:55] <MahaVishnu> Boom_Farmer$ doa disk then?
[01:55] <Boom_Farmer> Not sure.
[01:55] <MahaVishnu> can you partition that disk in gparted ?
[01:55] <bubbles|> escott if that tutorial is strange, can you point me to a better one?
[01:56] <Boom_Farmer> MahaVishnu: The second disk, yes. Just created partition table and will be shortly partitioning it as FAT32, in the fine tradition of "it works with the mac"
[01:56] <escott> bubbles|, i just don't get the weird permissions on the file. why not make it www-data:www-data?
[01:56] <escott> bubbles|, but im not familiar with this cacti thing so
[01:56] <Tech-1> Relondo:  im not a hotshot w/grub and windows together, maybe some one here is.
[01:56] <Relondo> Anyone here a Windows+grub hotshot?
[01:57] <MahaVishnu> Boom_Farmer$ FAT32? you are using these for mac? fat32 doesnt allow files over 4gb if you didn't know.
[01:57] <bubbles|> i guess he didn't bother with that - it's just necessary for www-data to read it, so it was just "chown www-data file" .. no need to fully type "chown www-data:www-data file" .. or so i guess
[01:57] <bubbles|> cacti is some sort of service monitoring
[01:58] <Boom_Farmer> MahaVishnu: Macs by default won't write to NTFS drives, and there won't be any files >4GB on this disk.
[01:59] <Boom_Farmer> And it also has to work with Win XP and 7, so HFS+ won't work either.
[01:59] <urlin2u> Relondo, what's going in?
[01:59] <robin0800> Relondo: are you on a live cd?
[01:59] <MahaVishnu> Boom_Farmer$ ic
[01:59] <Relondo> robin0800m Yes
[01:59] <Boom_Farmer> Almost made the whole thing Linux-swap. Heheh
[01:59] <Relondo> urlin2u, I'm trying to reinstall my grub.
[02:00] <urlin2u> Relondo, have you looked at thr grub2 wiki?
[02:00] <MahaVishnu> Boom_Farmer$ well glad its working. if one disk works but the other doesn't I'd wonder if it was dead. idk what else could be wrong if they are exactly the same or even different really for that matter.
[02:00] <Relondo> I was looking at this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[02:01] <urlin2u> Relondo, so can you boot either OS or any now?
[02:02] <MrTopless> is -type d a folder?
[02:02] <Relondo> urlin2u: I can boot to Windows XP, and I can boot the Ubuntu LiveCD.
[02:02] <Relondo> urlin2u: I have Ubuntu installed, but can't get to it, because I have no grub.
[02:02] <urlin2u> Relondo, and you have XP and Ubuntu only? What release of Ubuntu?
[02:02] <Relondo> urlin2u: Newest-11.10
[02:03] <MahaVishnu> Relondo$ did you install xp or ubuntu first ?
[02:03] <Relondo> MahaVishnu: XP.
[02:03] <urlin2u> Relondo, you haver the 11.10 live cd?
[02:03] <urlin2u> have
[02:03] <Relondo> urlin2u: Yes.
[02:03] <Relondo> urlin2u: I'm booted to it right now, in the terminal.
[02:03] <MahaVishnu> Relondo$ are they both installed on /dev/sda ?
[02:04] <urlin2u> Relondo, this is the grub 2 link from the page your using try the first method with the live cd there are 3 methods in a row here. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling_GRUB2
[02:04] <maum> I see some error while update : http://paste.pound-python.org/show/15534/
[02:04] <Relondo> MahaVishnu: Yes, I believe so.
[02:05] <Relondo> MahaVishnu: I just checked, their both installed to /dev/sdaX
[02:06] <escott> Relondo, you dont install grub to a partition number, but to /dev/sda
[02:06] <urlin2u> Relondo, there is a bootscript we use to lokk ay what is where if thois link does not work run it and pastebin the results.txt  http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[02:06] <Relondo> Escott: This I know.
[02:06] <MahaVishnu> Relondo$ he was answering about the drive his os's were on
[02:06] <urlin2u> look at*
[02:07] <MahaVishnu> err escott
[02:07] <tjiggi_fo> maum, it's telling you it can't finf the web pages for those 2 ppa's. either wait for the ppa managers to fix their sites or temporarilly disable their repo's in update settings
[02:07] <MahaVishnu> Relondo$ yea go follow that guide and use /dev/sda for the drive
[02:07] <tjiggi_fo> *find
[02:07] <maum> tjiggi_fo: what should I do?
[02:08] <Relondo> MahaVishnu: I was using this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajs9rO5upZA&feature=related
[02:08] <tjiggi_fo> maum, I just told you what to do :(
[02:08] <MahaVishnu> Relondo$ i'd use the link urlin2u gave you
[02:09] <maum> tjiggi_fo: should I wait to fix their sites? or disable repo in setting?
[02:09] <tjiggi_fo> maum, ignoring the errors will NOT do your system any harm in the short term
[02:09] <tjiggi_fo> maum, your choice
[02:10] <diverdude> Where is the file mod_info.so located ?
[02:10] <maum> tjiggi_fo: ok, I will just ignore it. by the way, how can I disable their repo? where can I find the settings window?
[02:10] <MahaVishnu> diverdude$ locate mod_info.so
[02:11] <trism> diverdude: dpkg -S mod_info.so; (if it is installed), or apt-file search mod_info.so; if it isn't (but you would need to install and set up apt-file)
[02:11] <maum> tjiggi_fo: I found it. the software source.
[02:11] <maum> tjiggi_fo: thanks
[02:11] <diverdude> locate worked like a charm
[02:11] <diverdude> magic command
[02:12] <Relondo> urlin2u: I got a menu after using "sudo-grub install --root-directory=/mnt/dev/sda".
[02:12] <urlin2u> Relondo, could you explain when and where of the menu.
[02:13] <Relondo> urlin2u: It says "Install_device not specified.
[02:13] <Relondo> uUsage: grub-install [OPTION] install_device
[02:13] <Relondo> Install GRUB on your drive.
[02:13] <Resistance> you didnt happen to specify the actual device
[02:14] <Resistance> /dev/sda is the device
[02:14] <Relondo> I figured that much. How do I do that?
[02:14] <Resistance> iirc, at least
[02:14] <urlin2u> Relondo, lets just run the bootscript I posted, I don't really like trying to help in this point it is self explanatory.
[02:14] <Relondo> urlin2u: I was trying to avoid downloads. But ok.
[02:14] <saucefonda> Hi, quick question.
[02:15] <urlin2u> Relondo, the bootscipt is not a download other then a script to be run and posted.
[02:15] <saucefonda> Has anyone upgraded to 11.10 through Update Manager, yet when the upgrade completed, it was still at 11.04?
[02:15] <Relondo> Ah.
[02:17] <escott> Relondo, sudo grub install --root-directory=/path/to/mounted/partition/with/boot /dev/sda
[02:17] <escott> Relondo, so /mnt/dev/sda should be your mounted root partiton or if you have a boot partition that partition
[02:18] <Relondo> escott: I'll try that. Thanks.
[02:19] <saucefonda> Is there a way to update Ubuntu via shell?
[02:19] <Relondo> escott: I got "sudo: grub: command not found"
[02:19] <saucefonda> Nevermind, I figured it out.
[02:19] <escott> saucefonda, do-release-upgrade
[02:19] <saucefonda> Thank's escott.
[02:19] <saucefonda> *Thanks
[02:19] <escott> Relondo, grub-install
[02:19] <Relondo> escott: Oh. I had cleared out of that.
[02:20] <Boom_Farmer> Anyways, MahaVishnu++
[02:21] <Relondo> escott: I'm still getting that same error.
[02:22] <escott> Relondo, its --boot-directory not --root-directory (sorry i wasn't looking at the man page)
[02:22] <Relondo> escott: Helpful. Thanks.
[02:22] <saucefonda> So is Oneiric as bad as I've been reading about?
[02:23] <MahaVishnu> whats the easiest way to switch gui apps between two screens ?
[02:23] <Boom_Farmer> CLick and drag sideways, or right-click on titlebar and look for "move app to desktop #"
[02:23] <tensorpudding> saucefonda, it's a matter of opinion, and better discussed elsewhere, in #ubuntu-offtopic, unless it's related to support
[02:24] <escott> MahaVishnu, if you are using unity you can probably set up a shortcut in ccsm
[02:25] <Relondo> escott: Now I'm getting "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error : cannot find a device for /path/to/mounted/partition/with/boot/grub (is /dev mounted?).
[02:25] <MahaVishnu> escott$ using fluxbox. and been trying to use 'screen' but not getting the 'gui' portions of the apps to switch. details: on two different video cards one integrated running a monitor. one nvidia running a tv. I have in xorg setup screen 0 1 I want to be able to switch apps between those screens some how possible ?
[02:26] <escott> Relondo, you can't type what i send you in literally. what does ls /mnt/dev/sda/boot say?
[02:26] <escott> MahaVishnu, are you running two X servers?
[02:27] <MahaVishnu> escott$ I don't think so.... do you need to see my xorg.conf ?
[02:27] <sarthor> Hi, i am on kataya, 11, i did apt-get dist-upgrade, and about 200 MB of files downloaded and install. but lsb-release -a still shows kataya 11. while the kernal shows is  2.6.38-13-generic, how to upgrade?
[02:27] <escott> MahaVishnu, perhaps, but you can also check by running ps aux | grep /usr/bin/X
[02:28] <MahaVishnu> 12973 tty7     00:59:43 Xorg
[02:28] <MahaVishnu> yea just one
[02:28] <Relondo> escott: I assumed you wanted me to enter that in my terminal; it says "ls: cannot access /mnt/dev/sda/boot: not a directory"
[02:28] <soon-7> Hi
[02:28] <OerHeks> !mint | sarthor
[02:29] <escott> Relondo, ok... so maybe some explanation of what you are doing will help. grub has multiple "stages" one which is installed to the mbr on /dev/sda, but it also needs files in the "boot" directory of the root filesystem
[02:29] <Relondo> escott: mbr?
[02:29] <escott> Relondo, so what you need to do is: (a) install grub to /dev/sda but (b) tell it where to look for the files and configuration in your boot partition
[02:29] <Boom_Farmer> sarthor: Did you reboot first?
[02:30] <escott> Relondo, mbr = master boot record (beginning of the disk but outside a partition) hence the reason we call it /dev/sda and not /dev/sda1
[02:30] <Relondo> escott: Boot partition being where Ubuntu is installed?
[02:30] <sarthor> Boom_Farmer: yes. I did that, and linuxmint chan is not accessable right now.
[02:30] <escott> Relondo, so when you installed ubuntu you selected /dev/sda# as your "root" partiton the one with a mountpoint of "/"
[02:30] <escott> Relondo, and did you create a "/boot" partition
[02:31] <Relondo> escott: I installed Ubuntu through the GUI. It did all this automatically.
[02:31] <Relondo> escott: I think? I really have very little idea what I'm doing?
[02:31] <skilz> Hey I have a usb dongle, fat32 I think and it has locked files on it I can't fdisk it, how can I erase it?
[02:31] <escott> Relondo, ok then it did not create a "/boot" partition and we just need to find the root partition. open the disk utility and find the partition that is type "ext4"
[02:31] <skilz> Hey I have a usb dongle, fat32 I think and it has locked files on it I can't cparted delete it, how can I erase it?
[02:31] <IHateHavingToReg> so if i send an email to me@mydomain.com, it shows up in the Maildir but I can't use "mail" to access it or anything. Does anyone know why this is happening? I'm using ... Postfix, I think it's called
[02:32] <Relondo> escott: Go back to the GUI? Or use sudo fdisk-l?
[02:32] <escott> MahaVishnu, so any normal setup has the monitors adjacent to each other in some way and you should be able to click and drag, but im not familiar with how it all works if you have multiple video cards
[02:33] <brightspark> IHateHavingToReg, if you send it to your_username@your_computer's_name it should be accessible using mail
[02:33] <escott> Relondo, honestly it doesnt matter. whatever you are comfortable with. i just need to know what partition number ubuntu is installed to
[02:33] <MahaVishnu> escott$ ok. it shares a mouse/kb just now windows.
[02:33] <MahaVishnu> not*
[02:33] <Relondo> escott: Ubuntu is on /dev/sda5
[02:33] <Relondo> escott: The swap/Solaris is on /dev/sda6
[02:34] <escott> Relondo, then the following commands will attach the ubuntu system to your livecd so we can access it: "sudo mkdir -p /media/ubuntu; sudo mount /dev/sda5 /media/ubuntu;"
[02:35] <escott> Relondo, if successfult you should be able to "ls /media/ubuntu" and see all the folders that would be in the root partition including: "/boot /etc /bin /root /usr /var" etc
[02:35] <Relondo> escott: yes, I can see those.
[02:36] <escott> Relondo, now we are going to install grub to the mbr (thats the /dev/sda part) but tell it to look for the config and kernel in /media/ubuntu/boot (which is where your config files are)
[02:36] <Relondo> escott: Continue.
[02:36] <OldOneEye> wats the installation size on ubuntu installer windows
[02:37] <escott> Relondo, sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/media/ubuntu/boot /dev/sda
[02:37] <OldOneEye> it has 5gig upto 30gig
[02:38] <escott> MahaVishnu, you could check the output of xrandr
[02:38] <Relondo> escott: It says "Installation finished. No error reported."
[02:38] <IHateHavingToReg> brightspark right, and it's in the maildir but it doesn't show up as "new mail"
[02:38] <escott> Relondo, so that sounds good. your bios should start the mbr on /dev/sda, and that should look for your kernel in /boot on partition /dev/sda5
[02:38] <Relondo> escott: So now I can get to the grub?
[02:38] <Relondo> escott: How, again?
[02:39] <escott> Relondo, so im not sure what the question is at this point. you should try rebooting and see if grub starts
[02:40] <Tech-1> thanks escott
[02:40] <MahaVishnu> escott$ what about xrandr ?
[02:40] <escott> MahaVishnu, just type xrandr in the terminal
[02:40] <joren> so, I have two identical seeming ubuntu install in which I'm trying to start nrpe, one starts just fine, the other says "Error: NRPE daemon cannot be run as user/group root!" in syslog
[02:40] <escott> Tech-1, are you Relondo ? did it work?
[02:40] <joren> I'm a bit stuck
[02:40] <Tech-1> no, i was helping him earlier
[02:41] <joren> my config instructs nrpe to run as nagios user, and it does on the one that works
[02:41] <brightspark> IHateHavingToReg, what is the maildir?
[02:41] <IHateHavingToReg> sorry mbox i meant
[02:41] <Relondo> escott: I've got two computers here. I can talk to you through the whole process :)
[02:42] <escott> Relondo, excellent thats helpful
[02:42] <urlin2u> Relondo, if you get into ubuntu run the sudo update-grub
[02:42] <stuartlittle> hello
[02:42] <Relondo> escott: I got a screen titled "GNU GRUB version 1.99-12ubuntu5"
[02:43] <escott> Relondo, ok. does it list your ubuntu versions?
[02:44] <stuartlittle> it seems that I found a little bug on linux gdb/ptrace
[02:44] <Relondo> escott: After that it says "Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB llilsts possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists posisble device or file completions." Below that it has a command line prefixed with "grub>"
[02:44] <stuartlittle> someone to help me?
[02:44] <brightspark> IHateHavingToReg, do you mean /var/mail/your_username?
[02:44] <Relondo> escott: It isn't the purple graphic grub.
[02:45] <nac4l> Anyone know how to setup simple mail to your free dyndns.org account?
[02:45] <nac4l> can u link local mail ot remote/internet?
[02:45] <IHateHavingToReg> brightspark: I was looking at root, you are right it is Maildir. /home/my_username/Maildir
[02:45] <diverdude> why is /etc/apache2/sites-available/default not listed in apaches mod_info ?
[02:46] <urlin2u> !ask | stuartlittle
[02:46] <urlin2u> !help
[02:46] <escott> Relondo, so that means it found the modules but not a grub.cfg file. this was a new install?
[02:46] <Relondo> escott: I installed Ubuntu yesterday.
[02:46] <joren> stuartlittle, state problem, maybe somone will help.
[02:46] <stuartlittle> when i use pushf instruction gdb set trap flag
[02:46] <joren> not saying that somone will be me
[02:46] <escott> Relondo, interesting, lets boot the livecd/liveusb again
[02:46] <urlin2u> escott, I laddy break out the bootscipt yee grub may be ah missing in the OS. :D
[02:46] <diverdude> any1?
[02:47] <stuartlittle> but, it seems that gdb doesn't clean trap flag when to return to my program
[02:47] <Relondo> escott: Don't know if this makes any difference, but I am using CD, not USB.
[02:47] <urlin2u> escott, or grub legacy and grub 2
[02:47] <Relondo> escott: Booted.
[02:48] <Relondo> escott: Well, booting.
[02:48] <brightspark> IHateHavingToReg, the mail itself is in that directory?  can you explain- all the mail is saved as a text file, you get a new text file for each message, what?
[02:48] <escott> Relondo, run the "sudo mkdir -p /media/ubuntu; sudo mount /dev/sda5 /media/ubuntu" again
[02:48] <stuartlittle> please, check http://pastie.org/3024242
[02:49] <Relondo> escott: Still getting to the terminal.
[02:49] <escott> Relondo, thats fine
[02:49] <joren> stuartlittle, sorry man, I got nothin
[02:49] <IHateHavingToReg> brightspark: Yes, I believe that is the case, in the Maildir directory there is cur/, new/ and tmp, the new/ directory for example contains some files with a bunch of numbers, like 1322440982.VbI... etc
[02:50] <stuartlittle> joren: before pushf execute eflags is 246 but after that push is executed eflags turned to 346
[02:50] <brightspark> IHateHavingToReg, that is nothing like my setup.  my mail all lives in /var/mail/my_username, which is a single text file.
[02:51] <stuartlittle> s/push/pushf
[02:51] <Fayne> hello
[02:51] <noob0013452> ...
[02:51] <IHateHavingToReg> brightspark can you briefly tell me how you set up your mailserver? i don't have a love for one way over the other, i just want the damn thing to work at this point :). thanks
[02:51] <Chuddy> @seek john christopher
[02:51] <brightspark> IHateHavingToReg, you can try invoking mail with the option "-f /home/your_username/Maildir/whatever"
[02:51] <stuartlittle> 'theorically', pushf doesn't affect any flags
[02:52] <joren> stuartlittle, I'm probably not the person to talk to about it.  I just wanted to explain that you should explain your problem  if you want help ;)  Sounds like it could be a bug though
[02:52] <IHateHavingToReg> mail: /home/jason/Maildir/new: Is a directory
[02:52] <IHateHavingToReg> what's that mean
[02:53] <brightspark> IH, I didn't fiddle with settings on mine, just set it up to defaults- let me dig it out for yout
[02:53] <brightspark> *you
[02:53] <Relondo> escott: I'm in the terminal.
[02:54] <brightspark> IHateHavingToReg, it's expecting you to give it a text file rather than a directory
[02:54] <escott> Relondo, so run that mkdir,mount command
[02:54] <stuartlittle> joren: ok, so i will submit it as a bug
[02:54] <IHateHavingToReg> but it looks like all of my mail are in different files, one email per text file
[02:55] <escott> and then run "ls /media/ubuntu/boot" and tell us if you see files named initrd.img* or vmlinuz* or config*
[02:55] <Relondo> escott: The dark deed you have commanded is done, master.
[02:57] <Tech-1> lol
[02:58] <brightspark> IHateHavingToReg, dpkg-reconfigure postfix
[02:58] <brightspark> which you run using sudo
[02:58] <escott> Relondo, were you able to run "ls /media/ubuntu/boot"?
[02:59] <Relondo> escott: I don't see them this time,
[02:59] <Relondo> escott: I saw some of those you mentioned before.
[02:59] <OlaRune> i'm configuring my own error pages for apache2
[02:59] <escott> Relondo, what does it say
[02:59] <OlaRune> but when i tried to add 429 i got
[02:59] <OlaRune> root@Dogget:/var/www/error# service apache2 restart
[02:59] <OlaRune> Syntax error on line 26 of /etc/apache2/httpd.conf:
[02:59] <OlaRune> Unsupported HTTP response code 429
[02:59] <OlaRune> Action 'configtest' failed.
[02:59] <OlaRune> The Apache error log may have more information. ...fail!
[02:59] <FloodBot1> OlaRune: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:59] <escott> Relondo, does it just list "grub" and nothing else
[02:59] <OlaRune> should 429 be there or not?
[02:59] <OlaRune> sorry for flood
[03:00] <OlaRune> 429 = too many requests
[03:00] <IHateHavingToReg> brightspark: okay, I have Internet Site, (my domain name), (my default login), (list of domains), do NOT focus synchronous updates on mail queue, 127.0.0.0/8 [::ffff:127.0.0.0]/104 [::1]/128__, yes I want to use procmail for local delivery, no limit, +, both ipv6 and ipv4
[03:00] <IHateHavingToReg> does that look right
[03:01] <Relondo> escott: "abi-3.0.0-12-generic config-3.0.0-12-generic grub (grub is in blue) memtest86+.bin memtest86+_multiboot.bin system.map-3.0.0-12-generic vmcoreinfo-3.0.0-12-generic"
[03:01] <IHateHavingToReg> i don't really see anything on that configuration list that would create the symptoms i have
[03:01] <tavelram> Im having trouble installing 11.10 from usb. Ive tried on both hp mini 2140 and eee 901. On the 901 I just get a blinking _underscore after bios, nothing more. Ive run the install twice, and choosed to install the boot loader to both the device and to the partition itself. Same result.
[03:01] <diverdude> how do i echo out a variable?
[03:02] <diverdude> like this variable has been defined: export APACHE_RUN_USER=www-data
[03:02] <urlin2u> !nomodeset | tavasti
[03:02] <diverdude> how can i display that value in terminal
[03:02] <IHateHavingToReg> wow
[03:02] <tavelram> ubottu, me? thanks :)
[03:02] <urlin2u> tavelram, look at the message to tavasti it was for you.
[03:02] <tavelram> oh ^^
[03:03] <tavelram> yeah :)
[03:03] <escott> Relondo, ok. so that looks good. it means you have a kernel where I expected you to. how about "ls /media/ubuntu/boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[03:03] <IHateHavingToReg> brightspark: it works now :/
[03:03] <IHateHavingToReg> thanks
[03:03] <Relondo> urlin2u: How can I access nomodeset if I  cannot see anything or get to the terminal?
[03:03] <urlin2u> Relondo, that was not pointed at you.
[03:03] <brightspark> IHateHavingToReg, no prob.  my options didn't have procmail, but if it is fixed now very good.
[03:03] <escott> Relondo, also "ls -l /media/ubuntu/boot/grub/" should list a bunch of files (we don't need to see them all) but the timestamps should be recent (from when we did the grub-install 20 minutes ago)
[03:04] <Relondo> urlin2u: Yeah, but I was told to go into nomodeset on the computer that has no visuals with ubuntu (incompatible ATI card)
[03:04] <Relondo> escott: The first command says no such file or directory. Was grub supposed to be in there twice?
[03:04] <escott> diverdude, echo $APACHE_RUN_USER
[03:05] <escott> Relondo, yes. we expect to have a file called grub.cfg in the /boot/grub folder
[03:05] <diverdude> escott, that displays nothing
[03:05] <urlin2u> Relondo, sure but it has nothing to do with your current situation.
[03:05] <escott> diverdude, then the variable is not defined in the environment
[03:05] <diverdude> escott, but it is....the apache server uses it
[03:05] <Relondo> urlin2u: I have two computers with Ubuntu problems. This is related to the other one.
[03:06] <escott> Relondo, so seems that for whatever reason you dont have a grub.cfg file, but we can create one easily enough
[03:06] <Relondo> escott: The second command listed lots of files.
[03:06] <urlin2u> Relondo, I would be glad to help when your finished if needed, but I'm not a graphics card helper in general.
[03:06] <Relondo> urlin2u: (I really drew the short stick when it comes to Linux)
[03:06] <diverdude> escott, you can  try and have a look in /etc/apache2/envvars
[03:06] <escott> Relondo, "sudo chroot /media/ubuntu /bin/bash" this puts you "inside" /media/ubuntu (so everywhere we used to put /media/ubuntu we will just put /)
[03:07] <urlin2u> Relondo, well you have good help with escott, linux fas a learning curve as well.
[03:07] <urlin2u> fas=as*
[03:07] <Relondo> escott: Now it says root@ubuntu:/# before the command line
[03:07] <Relondo> urlin2u: Ok.
[03:08] <escott> Relondo, good now we can run "update-grub" (you are already root thats the root@ubuntu bit) so you dont need to sudo
[03:08] <escott> Relondo, if that is successful then "ls /boot/grub/grub.cfg" should list a file (and not say it doesnt exist)
[03:09] <Relondo> escott: update-grub gave errors. You want the specific output?
[03:09] <escott> Relondo, yes what were the errors
[03:10] <escott> Relondo, also what does grub-install --version say
[03:10] <Relondo> escott: "Could not find platform independent libraries <prefix>"
[03:10] <Relondo> escott: "Could not find platform dependent libraries <exec_prefix>"
[03:11] <Relondo> escott: "Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to <prefix> [:<exec_prefix>]"
[03:11] <Relondo> escott: ImportError: No module named site
[03:11] <escott> Relondo, you know i forgot to bind some mounts
[03:12] <escott> Relondo, open a new terminal
[03:12] <Relondo> escott: How do I open a new one?
[03:12] <Relondo> escott: Clear?
[03:12] <escott> Relondo, right click in the existing terminal and open a new tab or open a new terminal
[03:12] <escott> Relondo, leave the current terminal as it
[03:12] <Relondo> escott: I'm in the Ctrl+Alt+F1 terminal, not GUI.
[03:12] <escott> Relondo, ok ctrl-alt-f2 then
[03:13] <Relondo> escott: Ok.
[03:14] <Relondo> escott: Do you have all of this stuff memorized?
[03:14] <escott> Relondo, in the new terminal run "sudo mount -o bind /proc /media/ubuntu/proc; sudo mount -o bind /dev /media/ubuntu/dev;" this will "copy" some needed stuff to the ubuntu system
[03:15] <escott> Relondo, some of it, but its not that complicated once you know what it is doing. if both of those work and dont complain you can ctrl-alt-f1 and i can try and figure out what these python complaints are about
[03:15] <Relondo> escott: They gave no errors.
[03:15] <escott> Relondo, good then ctrl-alt-f1
[03:15] <Relondo> escott: I have.
[03:16] <escott> Relondo, just for kicks try the update-grub command again. im not expecting it to work, but we might get lucky
[03:16] <ozzloy> i have a conf file in /etc/init/foo.conf pointing at a script i can run by hand just fine.  but when i do `start foo` i get "start: Job failed to start".  internets is not helping
[03:17] <Relondo> escott: Same error as before.
[03:17] <ozzloy> how do i make an upstart script?
[03:17] <den_> grtfghf
[03:17] <escott> ozzloy, its service servicename start
[03:17] <ozzloy> escott, oh ok i'll try that
[03:17] <ozzloy> escott, same
[03:17] <somsip> ozzloy: maybe this will help http://upstart.ubuntu.com/getting-started.html
[03:18] <ozzloy> somsip, that's what i read to find out i should make an /etc/init/foo.conf
[03:18] <somsip> ozzloy: so you have a script. Did you intend to ask a different question then?
[03:19] <ozzloy> ok, i guess my question is more like "why do i get failure instead of success?"
[03:19] <somsip> ozzloy: do you have your answer yet?
[03:19] <ozzloy> somsip, did you see what i wrote just before?
[03:19] <wolfric> any suggestions for preventing users from deleting their own home directory?
[03:20] <jiohdi> wolfric back them up to ubuntuone
[03:20] <somsip> ozzloy: aha - I didn't see your first comment
[03:20] <dele> I am using xubuntu 10.4 dual booting with windows XP, however grub 2 does not see the windows partition
[03:20] <wolfric> jiohdi: i'm not worried about them loosing files
[03:20] <wolfric> jiohdi: but i'd like everyone's home directory to always exist
[03:20] <ozzloy> somsip, no worries
[03:20] <jiohdi> wolfric, the darwin awards exist for a reason
[03:20] <ozzloy> i'm new to writing scripts that run at boot
[03:21] <escott> Relondo, run this: 'python -c "import sys; print sys.path"'
[03:21] <wolfric> jiohdi: it's not their problem it's mine... if i need to put something IN their home directory, i don't want to find out it's missing
[03:21] <ozzloy> so i don't know "the old way" of doing this either
[03:21] <Relondo> escott: I closed the lid of my 'top for a sec, and when I opened it back up, a whole string of SQUASHFS errors popped up.
[03:21] <escott> Relondo, yeah it probably tried to sleep
[03:21] <wolfric> jiohdi: in any case, please let's just assume i'm not going to take that view and drop that side of things
[03:21] <jiohdi> wolfric, you can make it read only and make it not owned by them, no?
[03:21] <Relondo> escott: Mine's not set to sleep when the lid closes. But sure. Running above code
[03:22] <Relondo> escott: Uhhh....there is now no prefix to my command line.
[03:22] <skilz> Is there anyway to setup my computer so it wont boot unless I have a usb dongle inserted with a special file that allows the system to boot (think of it like a key).
[03:22] <skilz> so if the laptop is stollen even if my password is cracked, they still need the key (usb dongle)
[03:22] <escott> Relondo, did your "'s match you need two one to open one to close
[03:22] <wolfric> jiohdi: is there a better way of doing it?
[03:23] <jiohdi> wolfric, the only way I am aware that they cannot delete it is if they do not own it
[03:23] <urlin2u> skilz, I think you can set up a truecrypt boot it might be easier
[03:23] <Relondo> escott: I didn't enter the code, because I noticed that my command line has no prefix.
[03:23] <jiohdi> wolfric, even then if they really want to delete it they can
[03:24] <escott> skilz, there are lots of variants of things like this. but the usb dongle for boot would be harder to do. usually you either have full disk encryption with a password or you have an encrypted home (in which case a usb key is easier)
[03:24] <escott> Relondo, you may have lost the livecd system when you closed the lid. just press [enter] and see if it comes back
[03:24] <wolfric> jiohdi: i don't need to make it impossible to delete
[03:24] <wolfric> jiohdi: just that you can't do it without some necessary effort
[03:24] <Relondo> escott: It came back. Enter commands?
[03:25] <jiohdi> wolfric, you can make it hidden and then make an link to it that is visible
[03:25] <escott> Relondo, sure go for it
[03:25] <jiohdi> if they delete the link they do not delete the real object
[03:25] <MrCleanWithHair> server is connected to home audio system. best option for selecting and playing media on the server from another computer on the network?
[03:26] <Relondo> escott: It game the same error as before, the one with "Could not find platform independent libraries"
[03:26] <wolfric> jiohdi: still not quite what i'm looking for... is there perhaps an extended acl i can use?
[03:26] <h4ckm3> anyone have good working knowledge of the encrypted home folder system?
[03:26] <aj00200> skilz: it might be an option for you to setup truecrypt and store the key on that usb device. This wouldn't protect against boot, but you could encrypt a large amount of data
[03:26] <aj00200> h4ckm3: it depends on what you need help with
[03:26] <escott> Relondo, ok what does "echo $PATH" say
[03:27] <h4ckm3> not help
[03:27] <h4ckm3> just a question
[03:27] <h4ckm3> my question is about how the password interacts with the generated encryption key
[03:27] <jiohdi> wolfric, what is the file for and why are you worried it will be deleted?
[03:27] <aj00200> i.e. you want to know how the password encrypts or protects the encryption key?
[03:28] <Relondo> escott: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin
[03:28] <escott> h4ckm3, the password (you can have multiple ones) decrypts a file with the actual keys to the data
[03:28] <h4ckm3> indeed
[03:28] <aj00200> escott: I am curious as well. Do you know what encryption method is used?
[03:28] <h4ckm3> so it's really to layers of encryption
[03:28] <h4ckm3> two*
[03:29] <h4ckm3> password>key>homefolder
[03:29] <h4ckm3> key is static and password can be changed
[03:29] <escott> aj00200, h4ckm3 im not sure what the actual encryption is, the best resource is dustin kirklands blog
[03:29] <h4ckm3> is the passwd encryption as strong?
[03:30] <h4ckm3> dustin Kirkand > thanks
[03:30] <escott> Relondo, ok im not clear on what exactly is going on here. something is messing up the python environment
[03:30] <escott> Relondo, we could do one of two things
[03:30] <MrCleanWithHair> h4ckm3, you're really asking how encryption as a whole works?
[03:30] <Relondo> escott: (I have this drive imaged, so feel free to do something drastic and possibly hard-drive wrecking).
[03:30] <escott> Relondo, we could try and figure out why python in the livecd isn't working, or we could manually type in a minimal grub.cfg file
[03:31] <rubbernick> heyhm, how do i disable cursor blinking in terminal? none of the methods from google seem to work
[03:31] <Relondo> escott: Which would take longer? Let's do the quickest one.
[03:31] <joksancpen> preferences?
[03:31] <escott> Relondo, i would go with hand editing a minimal grub.cfg. is there a text editor you are comfortable with?
[03:31] <Relondo> escott: Notepad? Openoffice?
[03:31] <escott> Relondo, well the minimal grub.cfg is faster because i dont know the answer to why python isn't working
[03:31] <Relondo> escott: Do those count?
[03:31] <escott> Relondo, more like nano or vi. I would recommend nano
[03:32] <Relondo> escott: I don't know what that is.
[03:32] <escott> Relondo, type nano /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[03:32] <rubbernick> joksancpen: that to me? no, don't work.... strange but true...
[03:32] <aj00200> thanks, escott
[03:32] <Relondo> escott: Do I need to get out of root@ubuntu?
[03:32] <escott> Relondo, no stay in root@ubuntu
[03:32] <joksancpen> rubbernick which versionare you on?
[03:33] <rubbernick> joksancpen: i anticipated that question. how do i find out? it's a bit older version...
[03:33] <h4ckm3> I was just interested in the encryption used in the password and its relation to the encryption to the home folder.
[03:33] <Relondo> escott: It gave a bunch of errors, and at the bottom it says "Press Enter to continue starting nano."
[03:33] <h4ckm3> looking for a weak point
[03:33] <joksancpen> well go to system about
[03:33] <escott> Relondo, what errors?
[03:33] <tavelram> Still trouble installing 11.10 on eee 901 using usb live. After bios i only get a _. I can't access grub using shift as explained here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 . Tried this as well, and it complains about the embedding is unusually small. http://robertbeal.com/562/rebuilding-grub2-grub-cfg-from-ubuntu-live-cd
[03:34] <Relondo> escott: Error in /etc/nanorc on line 236: Error reading /usr/share/nano/nanorc.nanorc: No such file or directory
[03:34] <pzaully> ech
[03:34] <Relondo> escott: Error in /etc/nanorc on line 239: Error reading /usr/share/nano/c.nanorc: No such file or directory
[03:34] <escott> Relondo, what does "ls /" output?
[03:35] <Relondo> I'm now in GNU nano 2.2.6
[03:35] <joksancpen> rubbernick just type lsb_release -a in a terminal
[03:35] <froq> !next bones
[03:36] <OldOneEye> ok i installed ubuntu desktop now i want to use kde instead of this shit
[03:36] <synapse> Has anyone ever had this problem on ubuntu before?  http://pastebin.com/yemQYBis  "jack not found"
[03:36] <escott> Relondo, ok so ctrl-alt-f2 and then just check that "ls /media/ubuntu" looks correct, and that "ls /media/ubuntu/home/<<your_username_here>>" has all your files
[03:37] <urlin2u> OldOneEye, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:37] <rubbernick> joksancpen: can't tell you, how much i do hate computers today... seems to be 10.10 ... btw lsb_... says: No LSB modules are available.
[03:37] <gogeta> rubbernick: lol
[03:38] <Relondo> escott: I don't know what constitutes it looking "correct", but it has "bin boot dev etc..."
[03:38] <joksancpen> rubbernick just go to system in the upper bar and then click on about Ubuntu
[03:38] <escott> Relondo, that would be correct
[03:38] <joksancpen> dude and do not say that you hate computers please
[03:38] <gogeta> i hate computers
[03:38] <joksancpen> OldOnEye if you are using 11.10 you should be able to change the version on the startup
[03:38] <OldOneEye> also i need a good windows vitual machine
[03:38] <Relondo> escott: And the second command didn't display anything, but removed the prefix form my command line.
[03:39] <Relondo> escott: *from
[03:39] <joksancpen> OldOneEye is your pc old?
[03:39] <escott> Relondo, did you replace <<your_username_here>> with the username you selected during the install?
[03:39] <OldOneEye> no its i3 2.3 4gigram
[03:39] <Relondo> escott: Is it case sensitive?
[03:39] <Relondo> escott: And was I suppose to leave the <<>> around it?
[03:39] <rubbernick> joksancpen: yes, after only some minutes some webpage appeared in a broweser which might or might not crash in a few minutest, which gave me the 10.10 information.... i believe that... and *surely* i love computers!
[03:39] <escott> Relondo, if not press Ctrl-C (ctrl and c at the same time) and try again
[03:40] <escott> Relondo, no take the <<>> out
[03:40] <joksancpen> you can install a good virtual machine with XP SP3 and that should do it OldOneEye
[03:40] <joksancpen> hehehe
[03:40] <joksancpen> ok
[03:40] <OldOneEye> does it support graphics
[03:40] <patrick> o chat br?
[03:40] <OldOneEye> games
[03:40] <joksancpen> lets see rubbernick
[03:41] <Relondo> escott: No such file or directory. But I never did successfully launch Ubuntu, so maybe there are no files?
[03:41] <joksancpen> it would not be so good to play COD or CRISIS but it would work with basic software
[03:41] <urlin2u> Relondo, did you resize the ubuntu for the XP install?
[03:41] <escott> Relondo, ok. sounds like something about the install didnt work and that it broke at some point during the install
[03:42] <escott> Relondo, so trying to fix grub isn't going to help anything because you dont have a working ubuntu system to boot anyways
[03:42] <Relondo> escott: That could be the case. It displayed a weird terminal window at the end.
[03:42] <OldOneEye> not too intence, but knights of the old republic
[03:42] <escott> Relondo, did your ubuntu system ever boot?
[03:42] <OldOneEye> and civ gasmes
[03:42] <OldOneEye> civ games
[03:42] <Relondo> urlin2u: Yes, the first time. But during that install it said "Unrecoverable error". When I retried, it did not ask me to resize partitions.
[03:43] <joksancpen> rubbernick Open gconf-editor, navigate to /apps/gnome-terminal/profiles/Default, find cursor_blink_mode and change its value to off.
[03:43] <Relondo> escott: No. But when I tried reinstalling, the LiveCD told me that Ubuntu 11.10 was already installed.
[03:43] <rubbernick> joksancpen: i read on the internets many people compile their own g-term for years to not blink while the 'cursor in text fields' *does* blink. that doesn't matter to me, i'd accept *everything* to not blink. just doesn't change a thing
[03:43] <urlin2u> Relondo, sound like a reinstall now you can resize ubuntu from the front or end but y9u have to knoow what your doing.
[03:43] <escott> Relondo, ok, then that does not sound like a successful install. i think you need to try and reinstall ubuntu
[03:43] <OldOneEye> joksancpen can u tell me how to make windows my default in grub
[03:43] <joksancpen> I do not know OldOneEye but maybe
[03:44] <rubbernick> joksancpen: tried that. no effect! (am checking again now though...)
[03:44] <escott> Relondo, and you want to tell the livecd to overwrite the existing ubuntu install (which should be safe since you never booted it and dont have any files on it you need to save)
[03:44] <h4ckm3> If you can't get grub working you could also try grub4dos
[03:44] <Relondo> escott: Gotcha.
[03:44] <joksancpen> rubbernick you have to edit the grub
[03:44] <joksancpen> and put the windows boot section first
[03:44] <Relondo> escott: I clicked install ubuntu, and now a window popped up asking to "unmount partitions that are in use?"
[03:44] <escott> Relondo, yes
[03:45] <joksancpen> grub works as it is written
[03:45] <h4ckm3> just edit the menu/lst file
[03:45] <rubbernick> joksancpen: uh??
[03:45] <h4ckm3> menu.lst*
[03:45] <escott> Relondo, it may be a good idea to reboot (it will forget everything you've done in the last 30 minutes or so)
[03:45] <h4ckm3> should be in your boot partition or folder
[03:45] <Relondo> escott: Another window "ubi-partman crashed"
[03:46] <OldOneEye> sorry wat display manager should i use i dunno kdm or lightdm
[03:46] <tavelram> I solved the grub booting problem. It needed more space at the mbr. And I had a 15mb partition at the begining that I could delete.
[03:46] <joksancpen> http://beconfused.com/2008/how-to-make-windows-vista-boot-first-using-grub-in-ubuntu/
[03:46] <joksancpen> rubbernick
[03:46] <synapse> anyone know what any idea package contains QTNSPLUGIN?
[03:46] <joksancpen> it is just as h4ckm3 said it
[03:46] <Relondo> escott: Should I install through GUI or terminal?
[03:47] <urlin2u> tavelram, you can't change the mbr you have a partition. The mbr is the first 512 mb of the hard drive
[03:47] <joksancpen> GUI
[03:47] <urlin2u> resize*
[03:47] <rubbernick> joksancpen: yes, checked: cursor_blink_mode is off, was off and always will be off... it's the only profile that is there... still it blinks before my eyes :/ .... and what that windows thing about?
[03:47] <Relondo> escott: And if terminal, how do I do that?
[03:47] <joksancpen> did you reboot?
[03:48] <Relondo> joksancpen: Are you talking to me?
[03:48] <rubbernick> joksancpen: nope... i'd hate to reboot this machine
[03:48] <Nicolus> c_nick
[03:48] <tavelram> urlin2u, byte. well, it seemed to be the problem.grub complained about small embedding size, and this thread helped: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1704081
[03:48] <joksancpen> why rubbernick?
[03:48] <rubbernick> joksancpen: :) do you think it'll help?
[03:48] <joksancpen> just press ctrl+alt+f1
[03:49] <rubbernick> joksancpen: btw ther *is* not windows section on this machine
[03:49] <joksancpen> it does not matter
[03:49] <escott> Relondo, so... (a) have you ever checked the md5sums of this install disk? do you know if it works on other machines?
[03:49] <OldOneEye> sorry wat display manager should i use i dunno kdm or lightdm
[03:49] <joksancpen> and then type sudo service gdm restart
[03:49] <makara> hi. In ~/.profile it reads "# This file is not read by bash(1), if ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bash_login exists."
[03:49] <makara> I need to add instructions to .bash_profile. Won't this break things?
[03:49] <rubbernick> joksancpen: i think you're confsusing me with o-eye, but i'll hit c-a-f1 just for fun... :)
[03:50] <Relondo> escott: Well, my other computer has graphics problems...so no.
[03:50] <joksancpen> no rubbernick
[03:50] <rubbernick> joksancpen: no yes?
[03:50] <Relondo> escott: As for the md5sums...what?
[03:50] <joksancpen> do not forget to type sudo service gdm restart rubbernick
[03:51] <escott> !md5sum
[03:51] <urlin2u> tavelram, I doubt you need a boot partition. But if it working enjoy.
[03:51] <escott> !md5sum | Relondo
[03:51] <rubbernick> joksancpen: *then* c-a-f1 can't work, because i'm only synergy'd to the machine
[03:51] <rubbernick> joksancpen: and a gdm restart is out of the question too
[03:51] <joksancpen> dude you just will have to restart the machine
[03:52] <joksancpen> because maybe the profiles aren't loaded yet
[03:52] <rubbernick> joksancpen: garble. i won't.... yeah. only restarting is 'the big blink' to me... no use in that for now :)
[03:52] <rubbernick> joksancpen: thanks for the hints anyway... :]
[03:53] <escott> makara, so if you want to read ~/.profile but need to have ~/.bash_profile then chain from ~/.bash_profile to ~/.profile
[03:53] <tavelram> urlin2u, yeah. A bit odd that the size requirements would have changed between 9.04 and 11.10 though. "The embedding area is the space between the mbr (the first 512 bytes of the hard drive) and the first sector of the first partition. Grub code is written to the embedding area as well as the mbr and the root Linux partition.
[03:53] <tavelram> "
[03:53] <joksancpen> ok
[03:53] <joksancpen> rubbernick how old is the computer?
[03:54] <rubbernick> joksancpen: don't ask :) ... as a matter of fact, the cursor doesn't blink when i leave the screen, so i can live with it... as long as i use the secondary tft only for short times/notes :/
[03:55] <Relondo> escott: To be honest, I'm a little tired. I've been at this for 3+ hours. I think I'm just going to try a clean install, and if that doesn't work, I'll pick it up again tomorrow.
[03:55] <escott> Relondo, i agree you need to do a clean install. take a break from it, and check that the CD is burned properly with md5sum prior to installing
[03:56] <Ebonwumon> How do I set the default app to open a certain filetype? I want to open an MP4 with mplayer, but the mplayer binary that's installed doesn't appear in the "open with" dialog and I can't find a way to manually type the command to launch with
[03:56] <Relondo> escott:  Will I likely be able to find you tomorrow?
[03:56] <escott> Ebonwumon, you can use alacarte to create a menu entry or use desktop-file-install and desktop-file-validate to create your own
[03:56] <escott> Relondo, probably not
[03:57] <escott> Relondo, but im sure there will be others who can help you out
[03:57] <Relondo> escott: Of course. Well, thanks for all your help.
[03:57] <h4ckm3> for q's
[03:57] <varun06> when I open eclipse in Ubuntu 11.10, it opens two process in terminal
[03:57] <h4ckm3> if escott isn't around
[03:57] <varun06> it creates some problem with my android sdk
[03:58] <varun06> any help
[03:58] <Relondo> h4ckm3: Thakns.
[03:58] <Relondo> *thanks.
[03:59] <Relondo> 'Night all.
[03:59] <h4ckm3> night
[04:00] <bra> Buenas noches a todos
[04:00] <urlin2u> es
[04:00] <urlin2u> !es
[04:00] <bra> ok
[04:00] <MahaVishnu> anyone know an easy command to move only folders containing a certain file type to a new dir ?
[04:01] <MrCleanWithHair> MahaVishnu, write a script
[04:01] <escott> MahaVishnu, mv folder/*.ext newfolder/
[04:01] <researcher123> can I make a dual boot with 32 bit & 64 bit Ubuntu 11.10?
[04:01] <RokcStar> is there an open source tool to ghost ubuntu installations
[04:01] <MrCleanWithHair> researcher123, yes
[04:01] <escott> researcher123, sure, you just have to have two root partitions
[04:01] <MahaVishnu> escott$ will that move only directories containing that ext. ?
[04:01] <joksancpen> MahaVishnu you can filter the folder to move using grep
[04:01] <DaZ> researcher123: but why?
[04:02] <MrCleanWithHair> MahaVishnu, no that would only more files in a folder with that extension
[04:02] <researcher123> MrCleanWithHair: How
[04:02] <b1llydev> how do i uninstall somthing in ubuntu
[04:02] <MrCleanWithHair> researcher123, install 64-bit. then install 32-bit. have two root partitions. and maybe two /home partitions if you want/
[04:02] <researcher123> escott: I have my full hard disk used for 32 bit installation already. How to creat 2 root partitions now?
[04:02] <escott> MahaVishnu, the shell will expand that to mv folder/a.ext folder/b.ext ... folder/c.ext newfolder/ which for mv will move the files a.ext,b.ext,c.ext to newfolder
[04:03] <joksancpen> b1llydev use rm
[04:03] <MrCleanWithHair> researcher123, when you boot from the 64-bit it will ask you if you want to dual boot
[04:03] <researcher123> MrCleanWithHair:  I have my full hard disk used for 32 bit installation already. How to creat 2 root partitions now?
[04:03] <researcher123> ok
[04:03] <escott> researcher123, boot the livecd and use gparted to shrink the partition and make yourself some space
[04:03] <researcher123> ok.I will try that way
[04:03] <MahaVishnu> escott$ I want to do it recursively. like keep directory structure. just move those dirs containing the files to a new dir.
[04:04] <MrCleanWithHair> b1llydev, go to the software center and uninstall, or a terminal and sudo apt-get remove whatyouwanttoremove.
[04:04] <researcher123> thanks all
[04:04] <MrCleanWithHair> b1llydev, rm deletes files. ignore that.
[04:04] <joksancpen> MahaVishnu you have to filter the mv command
[04:04] <MahaVishnu>  joksancpen example?
[04:05] <b1llydev> MrCleanWithHair: thx
[04:05] <escott> MahaVishnu, so recursive is a bit harder as most shells won't do recursive globing, (maybe ZSH will), but you can do it with find -iname "*.ext" -exec mv {} newfolder, although that would probably flatten the directory structure
[04:05] <h4ckm3> I use it for things like resizing
[04:05] <MrCleanWithHair> MahaVishnu, what file type?
[04:05] <escott> MahaVishnu, there is probably a way you can do this with a more complex find command, but it would take some reading of the man page
[04:05] <werbderver> Has anyone here else had trouble setting up ruby on rails?
[04:06] <makara> escott: do I need to read .profile? Why would it say it will be ignored if .bash_profile exists? I want to understand
[04:06] <joksancpen> MahaVishnu mv {ls /whateverdirectory | grep *.whateverextension} /outputdir
[04:06] <MahaVishnu> escott$ I tried to do it with find couldn't figure ito ut.
[04:06] <joksancpen> something like that
[04:06] <gaurav_tablet> i am using ubuntu 11.10 after updating system "upstart-udev-br" this process is using my 50% cpu usage what should i do
[04:06] <joksancpen> b1lldev I am sorry I was a little off
[04:07] <joksancpen> you should use sudo apt-get autoremove
[04:07] <MahaVishnu> MrCleanWithHair$ multiple I was hoping to be able to adjust the output I want to get a kind of master sorting command.
[04:07] <MahaVishnu> or input rather
[04:07] <escott> makara, .profile is generic and would be for *any* shell. so if you use csh or ksh then maybe you read .profile. .bash_profile is bash specific so if .bash_profile exists it assumes that .profile is meant for some other shell. if you want to load .profile then source it in your .bash_profile
[04:07] <MrCleanWithHair> MahaVishnu, so maybe all folders containing .flac to ~/Music etc etc
[04:07] <rumpel> MahaVishnu, find -type f -name '*.gz' -exec dirname {} \; | uniq    would generate a list of directories which contain .gz-files. You could use that for a mv command.
[04:08] <gaurav_tablet> can anyone help through
[04:08] <joksancpen> rumpel that also could work
[04:08] <joksancpen> what gaurav_tablet
[04:08] <joksancpen> ?
[04:08] <rumpel> MahaVishnu, problem could be maybe if there are spaces in directory names
[04:08] <makara> escott: can I just add the lines to .profile rather?
[04:08] <escott> makara, .profile is fairly short by default, you should be able to make sense of what it does fairly easily. if you are confused by some it just ask
[04:09] <gaurav_tablet> one of my process is eating half of my cpu upstart-udev
[04:09] <gaurav_tablet> what should i do
[04:09] <joksancpen> which one?
[04:09] <rubbernick> MahaVishnu: a bit like (untested): ( find -name '*.ext' | cpio -o ) | ( cd tar-get-dir ; cpio -idmv ) ... later do find -name ... -delete .... as long as target dir is no child of current
[04:09] <MahaVishnu> wow so complicated
[04:09] <gaurav_tablet> joksancpen, upstart-udev
[04:09] <escott> makara, you can add to .profile or .bashrc or whatever you want. there are bunch of different shell startup things depending upon usage (is it an interactive shell or a login shell or a batch shell etc)
[04:09] <notlistening> ubuntu server I have a 3G modem that when i boot will only detect as a CD drive but when i replug with detects as both a cd driver and 3g modem, what is different when i am booting?
[04:10] <makara> escott: ok thanks
[04:11] <joksancpen> gaurav_tablet you should see what other process is causing you problems
[04:11] <makara> notlistening: 3G usb modems are endless trouble on linux in my experience
[04:11] <joksancpen> because that is a root process and I do not think it should be a good idea to kill it
[04:11] <makara> notlistening: too many layers to get the things to work.
[04:12] <gaurav_tablet> joksancpen, what should i do
[04:13] <escott> gaurav_tablet, you could probably kill upstart-udev-bridge but all your hotplug events (plugging in a mouse or a disk) would break
[04:13] <OldOneEye> wat do i do once kubuntu-desktop finishes installing
[04:13] <Tech-1> reboot
[04:13] <joksancpen> gaurav_tablet you should the bug posts in launchpad
[04:14] <OldOneEye> will kde load up then
[04:14] <Tech-1> it should
[04:14] <Tech-1> if
[04:14] <notlistening> makara, tell me about it
[04:14] <undefined0> my vlc crashes when i press the "extended settings button". how do i fix that?
[04:14] <urlin2u> OldOneEye, if you choose it at the login.
[04:14] <Tech-1> it dont after boot, log out and make it load kde
[04:15] <OldOneEye> just log out?
[04:15] <joksancpen> gaurav_tablet https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/829980
[04:15] <varun06> it seems that I have to leave my beloved Ubuntu
[04:15] <varun06> due to one petty issue that taking forever to resolve
[04:15] <makara> notlistening: its like web development for hardware :)
[04:16] <joksancpen> yes OldOneEye logout and log in will load all your profile settings including your desktop
[04:16] <rubbernick> varun06: well, many of us seem to be on the way out atm :[
[04:17] <joksancpen> I was just playing with OpenGL and ended up here
[04:18] <urlin2u> rubbernick, then why are you here?
[04:18] <notlistening> right usb-storage is blacklisted but still loading..?
[04:18] <notlistening> is that right?
[04:18] <urlin2u> rubbernick, just ribbing you. :D
[04:19] <rubbernick> urlin2u: simple answer: i have some older buntus running (cf above...), which up to now didn't behave toooo bad up to now... :) have to admit, half of my new installs this month are != buntu :/
[04:20] <rubbernick> urlin2u: and ubuntu only is up to par because i had to install it twice on the same machine :/// (wubi issue there)
[04:21] <urlin2u> rubbernick, wubi.....Why?
[04:21] <enovativ_> can anyone tell me if they have had success with using a usb wireless adapter on ubuntu 10.10 ?
[04:21] <notlistening> Has had enough of 3g modems
[04:22] <enovativ_> honestly !  can anyone tell me that  ?
[04:22] <rubbernick> urlin2u: usual suspects: no-boot-from-usb-machine-with-broken-optical-drive-all-in-one-device-no-access-to-internal-connectors :/
[04:22] <urlin2u> rubbernick, your familiar with the boot menu not part of the bios?
[04:23] <hugalua>  if ubuntu's unity is the worst thing ubuntu has introduced, what's the 2nd most?
[04:23] <RokcStar> lol
[04:23] <RokcStar> font?
[04:23] <rubbernick> urlin2u: ? uh? some bootloader? how to install? ... not sure what you are talking about...
[04:23] <notlistening> the naming scheme
[04:23] <joksancpen> banshee
[04:23] <hugalua> i been quite happy with it until they released it, and i prompty downgaded it
[04:23] <RokcStar> oh yea the naming..
[04:23] <enovativ_> I have a netgear g43/n150 wireless usb micro adapter !!!
[04:24] <hugalua> i'm find with the naming, it doesn't get in the way of me getting stuff done
[04:24] <enovativ_> has anyone gotten that particular wireless adapter to work
[04:24] <rubbernick> hugalua: i particularily dislike the website :/
[04:24] <hugalua> i think unity must beat out #2 by a factor of 10
[04:24] <RokcStar> hugalua thats why i used xubuntu.that popout thing got really annoying
[04:25] <hugalua> ya for sure. I just think it sucks to divide the community
[04:25] <notlistening> actually just the move to thunderbird sucks ass
[04:25] <notlistening> needless to say i am still in the evo camp
[04:25] <hugalua> then again, i've not really been tuning into anyone who advocates for unity
[04:25] <geoffmcc> !offtopic
[04:25] <notlistening> oh year :D
[04:25] <RokcStar> i think they're experimenting with more touching menu's
[04:25] <hugalua> how ironic that unity actually divides
[04:25] <rubbernick> notlistening: +1 +1 but the evo nowadays sucks as well...
[04:26] <notlistening> hugalua, like it ;)
[04:26] <mcwire> Hi all.. question.. The past few days, whenever my ubuntu 11.11 wakes from hibernate I get a message before the gui invokes that says "Not enough free swap" then she brings me to the lock screen just fine.. everything i've read shows people having this error before hibernation, never afterwards... any ideas?
[04:27] <urlin2u> mcwire, what is the ram and swap amounts?
[04:27] <notlistening> mcwire is the machine actually hibernating?
[04:27] <cconstantine> hey all, having a problem getting audio to work with a display-port->hdmi setup (latest ubuntu, thinkpadx220).  I don't hear anything from the TV and I don't see an audio device for it
[04:27] <cconstantine> anyone know good resources for debugging it
[04:27] <ggreer> just curious... what's the laptop shown on the front page of the ubuntu website? http://www.ubuntu.com/
[04:27] <mcwire> notlistening: yep, hibernates just fine
[04:27] <rubbernick> oh, to be ontopic... on another machine (11.10) on wake from suspend i enter password, strange things happen, then have to enter password again... only me?
[04:28] <DefaultIdentity> hi room. anyone around and able to advise re: ubuntu and a server with an intel graphics card. i seem to be having problems with the graphics card driver. (i dont want to run a headless server) :/
[04:28] <OldOneEye> how do i uninstall the others where i select kde and just have kde plasma
[04:28] <notlistening> mcwire, sometimes its best to fight the battles worth fighting ;)
[04:28] <mcwire> notlistening: i only see the mesg briefly after it wakes
[04:28] <geoffmcc> cconstantine: have you gone to sound and make sure the correct profile is loaded on hardware tab
[04:28] <mcwire> notlistening: fair enough :) just never saw the mesg before.. wasn't sure if it was a prelude to a larger problem
[04:28] <notlistening> cconstantine, where have you looked for the audio device?
[04:29] <geoffmcc> mcwire: alot of applications running on hibernate?
[04:29] <urlin2u> OldOneEye, make sure you have the right release.  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[04:29] <cconstantine> geoffmcc, no... investigating
[04:29] <ggreer> I know it's a dell, but dell has so many models that I doubt I could find it
[04:29] <cconstantine> notlistening, the gnome 'sound' control panel
[04:29] <blackuranus> bonjour
[04:30] <notlistening> mcwire, I have had it also but that is when I have swap deactivated or not big enough, but if the machine hibernates just fine then I would be happy
[04:30] <geoffmcc> cconstantine: for hdmi i forget the exact name, but it should say digital in it if i recall
[04:30] <cconstantine> geoffmcc, k
[04:30] <notlistening> geoffmcc, iexxx
[04:30] <enovativ_> can anyone tell me if they have had success with using a usb wireless adapter on ubuntu 10.10 ?
[04:30] <somsip> ggreer: http://askubuntu.com/questions/37915/what-is-that-dell-laptop-on-ubuntu-home-page
[04:31] <geoffmcc> cconstantine: or might just be hdmi, i dont have access to ubuntu on hdmi right now to check
[04:31] <ggreer> somsip: <3
[04:31] <urlin2u> enovativ_, there is a wiki on that.
[04:31] <mcwire> notlistening: works for me. another quick question if i may. what do the decimal numbers preceding entries in dmesg represent?
[04:31] <ggreer> what clever terms did you put into google to get that? anything related to ubuntu and dell laptops and front pages got me... uselessness
[04:31] <enovativ_> urlin2u, i have been on a few and they did not work
[04:31] <cconstantine> got it!
[04:31] <cconstantine> thanks all!
[04:31] <somsip> mcwire: microseconds from boot?
[04:31] <notlistening> cconstantine, you are best to set it in the sound settings, top right
[04:31] <urlin2u> enovativ_, on a few what?
[04:31] <enovativ_> urlin2u, i first tried compat-wireless...that didnot work
[04:32] <cconstantine> umm, I'm guessing getting overscan fixed is more complicated
[04:32] <OerHeks> ggreer, i guess it is one of these > http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/make/Dell/laptops
[04:32] <enovativ_> urlin2u, a few wiki and  tutorials and none of them works
[04:32] <somsip> mcwire: or nanoseconds, or the next one down
[04:32] <cconstantine> nevermind.  it's ok
[04:32] <ggreer> OerHeks: somsip helped me already and it was http://askubuntu.com/questions/37915/what-is-that-dell-laptop-on-ubuntu-home-page
[04:32] <somsip> ggreer: *google* helped you
[04:32] <mcwire> somsip: sounds about right.. thanks
[04:33] <urlin2u> enovativ_, look for a usb card that works. https://encrypted.google.com/search?sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&site=webhp&source=hp&q=usb+wireless+ubuntu&btnG=Search
[04:33] <ggreer> somsip: google didn't help me, but it helped you. and then you helped me. seriously all I got was stuff about microsoft frontpage and ubuntu bugs on dell laptops
[04:33] <mcwire> thanks for the quick advice guys, much appreciated. and by the way. Sony Vaio's + Ubuntu = AMAZING
[04:33] <mcwire> later all
[04:34] <jrr> how can I put the main unity bar thing on the right side?
[04:34] <jrr> my dual display setup makes the left side impractical
[04:34] <somsip> jrr: 3d or 2d?
[04:34] <jrr> 3d
[04:35] <somsip> jrr: maybe this will (not) help http://askubuntu.com/questions/44187/unity-title-bar-buttons-on-right-side
[04:35] <N00bish> anyone able to advise re: ubuntu and a server with an intel graphics card. i seem to be having problems with the graphics card driver. (i dont want to run a headless server) :/
[04:35] <jrr> hmm, that's title bar buttons
[04:35] <somsip> jrr: actually, pre 11.10. Maybe not so utd
[04:35] <somsip> jrr: oops - my bad
[04:36] <notlistening> N00bish, have you got graphics display at all?
[04:36] <urlin2u> N00bish, it would probably help if you named the card to start with details, details
[04:36] <N00bish> i tried installing kubuntu and all i get via vnc is a grey screen
[04:36] <jrr> most arguments in defense of all the customization options are totally valid if everybody in the world has a single widescreen monitor in horizontal aspect ratio
[04:36] <N00bish> yet the kubuntu install went fine, no problems
[04:36] <somsip> jrr: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11351175
[04:36] <jrr> *in defense of the *removal* of all the options
[04:36] <N00bish> startx shows intel n10 issues
[04:37] <N00bish> is it a kubuntu problem? should i pick an alternative
[04:37] <notlistening> N00bish might you try ssh -XY (kde help please)
[04:37] <ggreer> jrr: this is why apple can get away with such things but ubuntu can't (although I think ubuntu hid even more UI config options than OS X does)
[04:37] <N00bish> ive used debian before
[04:37] <jrr> osx at least lets you move the friggin bar
[04:38] <N00bish> notlistening: thanks. is kubuntu a good choice do you think?
[04:38] <urlin2u> enovativ_, this link tells you ones that work https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[04:38] <jrr> this wouldn't be terrible with a pair of identical monitors centered at my desk
[04:38] <N00bish> ive used gnome and debian before on the same hardware and been fine
[04:38] <notlistening> Unity should have been developed and then integrated rather than the other way around
[04:38] <jrr> but I have a monster 24" centered and an old smaller one to the left
[04:38] <enovativ_> urlin2u, thank you
[04:38] <ggreer> jrr: solution: buy a 27" monitor and ditch the 24" and old small one :)
[04:38] <urlin2u> enovativ_, no problem hope that gets you going.
[04:39] <jrr> ggreer: I totally want to
[04:39] <jrr> moar pixels!
[04:39] <jrr> 1920x1200 just ain't enough
[04:39] <ggreer> and they say money can't buy happiness :)
[04:40] <mia> mia
[04:40] <aaron_> hello i have a questions with my partitions for example this is what i have on my partitions http://pastebin.com/MG2FgBJx but i cannot either boot my windows partition can someone help me please to fix this error
[04:40] <aaron_> i open gparted and for example it says file system unknown
[04:41] <anadon> I need help getting regular unity to work.  I can't get it to a usable state.  Unity 2D is working, though.
[04:41] <escott> aaron_, what in the world is an SFS partition
[04:41] <somsip> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-certifying_File_System
[04:41] <King_Ozzy> aaron_ I don't see a windows partition
[04:41] <somsip> possibly...
[04:41] <aaron_> King_Ozzy, yeah the partition is /dev/sda1
[04:42] <aaron_> and sda3
[04:42] <escott> aaron_, 42 SFS (Secure Filesystem  SFS is an encrypted filesystem driver for DOS on 386+ PCs, written by Peter Gutmann.
[04:42] <Zenonii> Hello, I have some seemingly major problems with the install, and more
[04:42] <aaron_> so I'm stuck with out windows now?
[04:42] <escott> aaron_, also listed as a Windows 2000 dynamic extended partiton marker
[04:43] <escott> aaron_, looks like you have some really weird windows configuration. it can probably be booted but you need to figure out how it is done
[04:43] <King_Ozzy> you probably installed things in the wrong order to dualboot
[04:43] <aaron_> right of course and i'm stock with out a windows 7 64 bit
[04:43] <aaron_> ;*(
[04:43] <aaron_> iso
[04:44] <King_Ozzy> always do your research before installing things willynilly
[04:44] <Zenonii> if anyone is directing speech to me, I can't tell
[04:44] <King_Ozzy> hi Zenonii
[04:44] <Zenonii> Hi
[04:44] <aaron_> lol true that ;)
[04:44] <Zenonii> My problem is complex... to me...lol
[04:44] <Zenonii> MAC os 10,5.8  Dual Mirror Door G4 Single 1.25 Gig processor
[04:44] <escott> aaron_, http://www.sevenforums.com/installation-setup/138951-sfs-partition-windows-7-key.html
[04:44] <Zenonii> 4 hd
[04:44] <geoffmcc> aaron_: wait, what happened
[04:44] <ggreer> Zenonii: that's old school
[04:45] <King_Ozzy> well there's your problem Zenonii, it's a Mac :-p
[04:45] <Zenonii> yes, which is why I'm using ubuntu
[04:45] <Zenonii> I've never had a problem with a mac, ever.
[04:45] <Zenonii> I have many with my pc
[04:45] <King_Ozzy> ok I won't get into it
[04:46] <Zenonii> I had ubuntu running on it already
[04:46] <escott> aaron_, this seems a bit more detailed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1653493
[04:46] <ggreer> hmm... ubuntu runs on ppc? I have an old ibook... hmm...
[04:46] <Zenonii> what is that?
[04:46] <aaron_> ty escott
[04:46] <Zenonii> ubuntu runs easier on a mac, than a pc
[04:47] <Zenonii> my problem is not ubuntu
[04:47] <Zenonii> it is specific mac issues
[04:47] <King_Ozzy> ^
[04:47] <Zenonii> on recognizing the cd, or maybe I did not burn it correctly
[04:49] <Zenonii> is this the correct room, or is there another
[04:49] <geoffmcc> !mac | Zenonii
[04:49] <Zenonii> I've read it
[04:49] <Zenonii> I've already installed it.
[04:49] <Zenonii> it is the new install giving me problems
[04:49] <aaron_> D HPFS - NTFS          36693 206 58 38651 238 51   31457280 [HP_RECOVERY]
[04:49] <aaron_> D FAT32 LBA            38651 238 52 38913  37 36    4196352 [HP_TOOLS]
[04:49] <aaron_> there it is
[04:49] <FloodBot1> aaron_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:49] <aaron_> ;)
[04:49] <aaron_> sorry about that
[04:50] <ggreer> Zenonii: try a known-good CD?
[04:50] <King_Ozzy> aaron_ put that stuff in pastebin
[04:50] <aaron_> ok
[04:50] <el-plum> looking for an easy umbutu windows enviroment download
[04:50] <aaron_> http://pastebin.com/KtxpMn4T
[04:50] <Zenonii> Yes, but before I go into the specifics, probably I need to talk with someone who knows macs
[04:50] <jrr> okay, I just tried stock gnome, and it's even weirder than unity
[04:51] <jrr> the task launching/switching bar isn't on my left monitor - arguable an improvement - but it's also gone entirely
[04:51] <Zenonii> the numbers above, what are they, are they somethign I need
[04:51] <geoffmcc> Zenonii: it was for someone else
[04:52] <Zenonii> k
[04:52] <el-plum> looking for an easy umbutu windows enviroment download
[04:52] <geoffmcc> Zenonii: from what i gathered your haveing cd rom trouble, but yea i dont know anything about mac, so i didnt probe further, sorry.
[04:52] <somsip> !repeat | el-plum
[04:52] <Zenonii> No, not cd trouble
[04:53] <somsip> kama
[04:53] <Zenonii> something in the architecture itself... it is probably simple, but I am not getting it
[04:55] <Zenonii> is there a ubuntu room that has mac users?
[04:56] <King_Ozzy> idk, do /list
[04:57] <Zenonii> is it  'ty escott,' or 'escott'
[04:58] <escott> !alis | Zenonii not familiar with any mac room
[04:59] <tttuuu> hi. what is the conventional place to save a downloaded package?
[04:59] <DasEi> tttuuu: ~/Downloads ?
[04:59] <escott> tttuuu, anything you install manually should be installed to /usr/local or /opt
[04:59] <DasEi> can have it wherever you want
[05:00] <IdleWarship> I've got a simple ruby script that puts strings out into the terminal; what can I put into those strings to colorize them?
[05:00] <escott> IdleWarship, you probably want to look into the curses library, as dumping escape characters out is not good practice
[05:00] <mebigfatguy> help restarted 11.10 due to upgrades and now it goes straight to memtest. only option is to reboot which just infinite loops. how to fix
[05:00] <DasEi> IdleWarship: maybe #RubyObRails ?
[05:00] <omid> what is the best 64 bit web browser
[05:01] <DasEi> On*
[05:01] <tttuuu> escott, should I just stick them into /usr/local or create an additional directory inside /usr/local to put the downloads?
[05:01] <King_Ozzy> omid define "the best"
[05:01] <omid> i'm installing opera
[05:01] <DasEi> omid: best is a poll, the likings go chromium, ff and many more as I Knew
[05:01] <DasEi> omid: which purpose ? footprint ? addons ?
[05:02] <escott> tttuuu, traditionally /opt has one directory per application /opt/oracle or /opt/mathematica or /opt/big_monolithic_folder_for_app whereas /usr/local tends to mirror a normal hierarchy /usr/local/bin /usr/local/lib etc
[05:02] <_Nano> Anyone used xen-hypervisor-4.1 on ubuntu 11.10
[05:03] <tttuuu> thanks escott!
[05:03] <_Nano> I'm still stuck on kernel switching =/ I think it may be something to do with my host...
[05:03] <escott> tttuuu, for whatever reason /opt seems to be less popular these days although i think it makes more sense than /usr/local
[05:05] <tttuuu> escott, so how can I tell something should belong to /usr/local/bin or /usr/local/lib?
[05:06] <rumpel> tttuuu, i would say: if it's a library, it should be in lib.  (?)
[05:07] <tttuuu> rumpel, how can I tell if a package is a library or not?
[05:07] <escott> tttuuu, what is the package
[05:07] <tttuuu> Django
[05:08] <rumpel> tttuuu, what are you trying to do exactly?
[05:08] <mebigfatguy> how do i get out of endless memtest86 startup loop
[05:08] <escott> tttuuu, Django would probably be considered a library. there is probably a version of django in apt
[05:09] <ThinkPadG40> Hello, I'm wondering if there is a way to make tleds use the CAPS key instead of the SCROLL key?
[05:09] <escott> ThinkPadG40, what is tleds?
[05:09] <maum> how can I install opengl on ubuntu?
[05:10] <OldOneEye> what is the best windows machine to install
[05:10] <omid> DasEi, i've heared that the only web browser which has a "real" 64 bit edition is IE
[05:10] <omid> is it correct?
[05:10] <DaZ> define real :f
[05:10] <ThinkPadG40> escott: a network traffic monitor that flashes keyboard lights indicating network traffic, NUM for incoming and SCROLL for outbound
[05:10] <escott> ThinkPadG40, check the man page for that application
[05:11] <DasEi> omid : not right
[05:11] <DasEi> omid: mostly it's about issues with plugins
[05:11] <ThinkPadG40> escott: ok, will try, thnx not use to having a distro with a good "man
[05:12] <naptastic> Hi. I'm setting up netboot on my home network. My client stops responding after loading some of the init scripts. I know it's a corner use case, but can anyone help me troubleshoot this?
[05:13] <keshavkuruva> Hi
[05:13] <omid> 2 days ago i was using 32bit ubuntu and then people here told me its better to go 64 bit right now i've installed 64 bit and i dont feel any performance improvement ,plus i think there are fewer software in the app center.i cannot install some software without having to install lots of 32bit dependency crap and sometimes remove some packages.
[05:13] <ThinkPadG40> escott: It doesn't mention anything of the kind in the man page
[05:14] <ThinkPadG40> escott: It wouldn't be that big of a deal if my old ThinkPad had a scroll lock LED
[05:14] <keshavkuruva> anyone faced issue of ffi_lib not working properly on ubuntu 11.10   ....Could not open library 'ncursesw': ncursesw: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. (LoadError)
[05:14] <escott> ThinkPadG40, its possible that this application calls out to xleds or some other application to do the work of causing the flashes. if so you could modify it. see if the program is a script by less `which tleds`
[05:14] <keshavkuruva> trying damn hard to fix this issue with ruby on my system
[05:14] <keshavkuruva> ncursesw
[05:14] <keshavkuruva> ubuntu 11.10 has some issues with it
[05:15] <keshavkuruva> whereas ubuntu 11.04 is fine
[05:15] <RokcStar> xubuntu runs so much better than ubuntu
[05:15] <DaZ> omid: 64bit software uses a bit more of ram even :F
[05:15] <omid> DaZ,  you mean i better use 32bit ?
[05:15] <rumpel> omid, if you have 64bit architecture, why not use it?
[05:15] <keshavkuruva> https://github.com/ffi/ffi/issues/168
[05:16] <naptastic> omid, You may be able to get the software you're looking for by installing ubuntu-restricted-extras.
[05:16] <DaZ> dunnolol, i switched only when i had more than 3gb of ram.
[05:16] <the_misfit> im working my way through the internets seeing about mounting/recognize a SDHC card
[05:16] <naptastic> omid, it will give you the Flash plugin, and some other things that are hard to get otherwise.
[05:16] <RokcStar> i have 64bit of xubuntu and even youtube videos run much smoother on it- even when im running windows 7 and another xubuntu virtual on VirtualBox
[05:17] <DaZ> meh, getting html5 on youtube is much less effort
[05:17] <naptastic> I haven't used 32 bit on a 64 bit architecture in years except in emergencies... but it took me a long time to get to this point.
[05:17] <ThinkPadG40> escott: It's not a script, i used which and it said /usr/bin/tleds and I catted it and i was mostly VT100 garbage
[05:17] <keshavkuruva> can anyone help in resolving this issue https://github.com/ffi/ffi/issues/168
[05:17] <RokcStar> DaZ which browser do you use to load html5 video tags on youtube?
[05:18] <maum> how can I install opengl? I installed freeglut3, freeglut3-dev but there are some errors. checking for -lGLU... no, checking for -lMesaGL... no, configure: error: OpenGL libraries not available. I don't know why
[05:18] <RokcStar> i thought only hrome supported html5 m4a files
[05:18] <RokcStar> Chrome
[05:18] <DaZ> opera.
[05:19] <RokcStar> hmmm ok
[05:19] <escott> ThinkPadG40, this is likely to be a simple program. its a good learning experience to learn to modify and compile it to do what you want it to
[05:19] <RokcStar> it sucks firefox doesnt support m4a files
[05:20] <deper29> hey guys, I'm wondering if someone can help me get my sound working on my TV. I'm trying to use this guide, but it isn't working http://www.geoffke.be/nieuws/5/
[05:20] <ThinkPadG40> escott: I have no programming experience outside of the Commodore 64, C and most other laguages are greek to me
[05:20] <naptastic> maum, Do you have these installed? libgl1-mesa-glx, libgl1-mesa-dri ?
[05:21] <OldOneEye> how do i install a windows virtual machine
[05:21] <the_misfit> !vbox | OldOneEye
[05:21] <maum> naptastic: yes
[05:21] <escott> maum, you want to be installing drivers for your graphics card. run jockey-gtk to install proprietary drivers
[05:22] <RokcStar> just dont run vbox files off the same drive.. :)
[05:22] <maum> escott: I want to build the wxpython source code with opengl on ubuntu 11.10
[05:22] <naptastic> Ah!
[05:22] <naptastic> maum, you need libopengl-python or similar
[05:23] <naptastic> maum, I don't know the exact package name
[05:23] <maum> ok I will search it
[05:23] <tttuuu> I'm trying to "wget http://www.djangoproject.com/download/1.3.1/tarball/", but it's always saving the result as index.html instead of file.tar.gz
[05:23] <tttuuu> how can I make wget save as tar.gz?
[05:24] <mebigfatguy> i cant boot 3.0 linux in 11.10... just 2.6   just get solid purple... any ideas ?
[05:24] <milamber> tttuuu: the complete file name /tarball/<package>.tar.gz
[05:24] <deper29> anyone able to help?
[05:24] <RokcStar> can wget do that?
[05:24] <escott> tttuuu, you need to specify the file you want wget to download wget http://.../tarball/what_is_the_filename.tar.gz
[05:24] <somsip> tttuuu: download a tar.gz file
[05:24] <soreau> tttuuu: If you're sure it's a gzipped tarball, you can use wget -O name-of-file.ext
[05:24] <ThinkPadG40> tttuuu: maybe because you're specifying a web page like an FTP index as opposed to the actual filename
[05:24] <h4ckm3> wget is bada**
[05:24] <RokcStar> woa cool
[05:24] <RokcStar> i didnt know it can archive
[05:24] <h4ckm3> you can download entire websites with that
[05:24] <RokcStar> could*
[05:24] <tttuuu> but guys if you go to http://www.djangoproject.com/download/1.3.1/tarball/ in a web browser, it *is* the tar.gz
[05:24] <maum> naptastic: there is python-opengl but there is still error.
[05:25] <ThinkPadG40> tttuuu: then just save it with the browser?
[05:25] <gunfire007> i am unable to enable compiz pls some one can guide me to start it ?
[05:25] <escott> tttuuu, then its redirecting you. where does index.html redirect to?
[05:26] <DaZ> tttuuu: it isn't.
[05:26] <tttuuu> escott, when I edit index.html I can see that it is the tar.gz, I should just rename it
[05:26] <escott> mebigfatguy, is this purple grub or purple ubuntu splash screen?
[05:26] <tttuuu> but does anyone know if wget has an automatic save-as filename option?
[05:26] <tttuuu> I can't seem to find it
[05:26] <DaZ> it redirects to http://media.djangoproject.com/releases/1.3/Django-1.3.1.tar.gz :f
[05:27] <naptastic> maum, try these: libgl1-mesa-dev, libglu1-mesa-dev
[05:27] <maum> naptastic: http://paste.ubuntu.com/771879/
[05:27] <escott> tttuuu, when you request over http://some/path/ it is implied that you are getting index.html
[05:27] <maum> naptastic: i did but there is still....
[05:27] <milamber> tttuuu: if you look at the source of the index file it will probably tell you where it redirects to also
[05:28] <escott> tttuuu, http://www.ubuntu.com/ becomes http://www.ubuntu.com/index.html when the request is made
[05:28] <naptastic> maum, also install mesa-common-dev
[05:28] <naptastic> maum, (sorry, I'm looking all this up as I go.)
[05:29] <escott> tttuuu, in any case the option to set the filename is -O but index.html is the name of the file you request (you just didn't know that was what you requested)
[05:29] <sweetofserbia> Witch software is for making video?
[05:29] <maum> naptastic: I did but there is still error : http://paste.ubuntu.com/771881/
[05:29] <tttuuu> escott, I get it! thanks!
[05:30] <naptastic> maum, perhaps you should ask in #python... they may know more about the libraries you need. I'm out of ideas. :-(
[05:30] <maum> ok
[05:30] <maum> thanks
[05:31] <mebigfatguy1> i am unable to boot 11.10 using kernel 3.0, it works fine with 2.6.  I get solid purple screen. My video is GeForce FX 5200   .... any ideas how to fix?
[05:31] <drdoomy> testing out 12.04 here
[05:31] <drdoomy> sofware center works now
[05:32] <soreau> ! 12.04
[05:33] <keshavkuruva> ffi_lib and libncurses issues on ubuntu 11.10
[05:33] <keshavkuruva> /home/robbiemu/bin/lib/ruby/gems/1.9.1/gems/ffi-1.0.10/lib/ffi/library.rb:121:in  `block in ffi_lib': Could not open library 'ncursesw': ncursesw: cannot  open shared object file: No such file or directory. (LoadError)
[05:39] <escott> !modeset | mebigfatguy
[05:39] <escott> !nomodeset | mebigfatguy
[05:40] <mebigfatguy1> thanks...looking
[05:44] <guest-3RFaqW> hi guys, linux newb with the most basic of questions, could someone give me an assist?
[05:44] <urlin2u> !ask
[05:45] <guest-3RFaqW> i managed to forget my password
[05:45] <Spartacus`> IDIOTS.
[05:45] <Spartacus`> asdas;fjdasf
[05:45] <Spartacus`> dsfas
[05:45] <Spartacus`> gas
[05:45] <Spartacus`> gas
[05:45] <guest-3RFaqW> but i have written down that enormous numeric code
[05:45] <FloodBot1> Spartacus`: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:45] <guest-3RFaqW> where do i put that in?
[05:45] <urlin2u> guest-3RFaqW, you encrypted
[05:45] <Spartacus`> lol, gay.
[05:45] <urlin2u> !ops
[05:46] <jagaldol> 음?
[05:46] <jagaldol> 댄건가!
[05:46] <tavelram> Im having trouble installing 11.10 via live usb on eee 901. After installing, i can't login, it claims that my password is invalid. guest account works. /home is empty.
[05:46] <guest-3RFaqW> so i should look for password reset help online instead?
[05:46] <guest-3RFaqW> that encryption code wont help
[05:46] <guest-3RFaqW> ?
[05:46] <urlin2u> guest-3RFaqW, are you encrypted?
[05:47] <guest-3RFaqW> yessir
[05:47] <urlin2u> guest-3RFaqW, you can get help here but I don't know ant method.
[05:47] <urlin2u> any*
[05:48] <urlin2u> tavelram, home is empty how do you know?
[05:48] <guest-3RFaqW> hmmm. ok, well reminding me that it was encryption may give me a better google search to start with
[05:49] <tavelram> urlin2u, i mount the partition from the live cd. Or did ecrypt put the file somwhere else?
[05:49] <chrobi> good evening all
[05:49] <urlin2u> tavelram, the home wont mount if encrypted, as far as getting in not sure.
[05:49] <godofmischief> I was screwing with compiz and something i changed disabled me when i put the mouse pointer in the bottom left of the screen displaying all 4 works spaces
[05:50] <godofmischief> anyone got any clue as to what did that?
[05:50] <tavelram> urlin2u, ok, and ecrypt isn't supposed to be in /home/.ecryptfs then?
[05:50] <urlin2u> godofmischief, what release and desktop
[05:50] <mebigfatguy> bummer all nomodeset did for me was give me a black screen with blinking cursor
[05:50] <urlin2u> tavelram, an encrypted home is not supposed to mount in general.
[05:51] <urlin2u> tavelram, from a live cd or thumb or another OS.
[05:51] <tavelram> urlin2u, ok
[05:51] <tavelram> ok
[05:51] <godofmischief> urlin2u, ubuntu 11.10 unity with cairo dock running
[05:52] <guest-3RFaqW> (thanks urlin, HAGN)
[05:53] <urlin2u> godofmischief, you can have the cube is that your goal, unity is a plugin in compiz you have to be careful, there are a ton of websites to nstruct you. If you want to reset the desktop run unity --reset
[05:53] <urlin2u> instruct*
[05:53] <tavelram> urlin2u, is my account supposed to show in /etc/passwd and shadow?
[05:53] <godofmischief> urlin2u, what's the specific command to reset unity that sounds like a good idea.
[05:53] <urlin2u> tavelram, not sure to tell you the truth.
[05:54] <urlin2u> godofmischief, yep.
[05:54] <blind> Hi, I'm ssh'd into my computer and I want to start an app that has a gui, and the command line says it can't open display, which I kind of understand. How can I tell it what display to launch to?
[05:54] <urlin2u> godofmischief, you may need to rebbot most likely afterwards
[05:54] <godofmischief> urlin2u, i was being seirous, idk thoug, sudo apt-get install unity --reset?
[05:54] <yxtex> When building a debian package with specific library version of qt, how come package-name (>=4.7) doesn't get honored?  Is that the wrong syntax?
[05:54] <urlin2u> reboot*
[05:54] <rumpel> blind, using the DISPLAY variable
[05:55] <blind> DISPLAY=0 appname  ?
[05:55] <urlin2u> godofmischief, no sudo just unity --reset I believe
[05:55] <sweetofserbia> Good morning rumpel, can you say me please good software for making a video?
[05:55] <chrobi> i got a script that i call from dhcp oncommit with excute.   I made sure to fork the script so dhcp is not waiting on the script to return, but dhcp seems to be looping through the oncommit part of the script.  If i didnt unset the set var's could that cause the looping?
[05:55] <urlin2u> godofmischief, no apt-get either
[05:55] <rumpel> blind, more like DISLPAY=:0.0   (or similar)
[05:55] <rumpel> sweetofserbia, sorry, never done that.
[05:55] <godofmischief> urlin2u, so sudo unity --reset
[05:55] <godofmischief> hrrm
[05:56] <chrobi> *script = dhcpd.conf
[05:56] <urlin2u> godofmischief, NO unity --reset is all you t=run.
[05:56] <sweetofserbia> Ok  rumpel, thank you. :)
[05:56] <urlin2u> run*
[05:57] <hope> hey
[05:58] <chrobi> hola
[05:58] <rumpel> blind, i used "export DISPLAY=:0"  and "export XAUTHORITY=/home/username/.Xauthority" in a script of mine. That should cover it.
[05:59] <blind> It would appear as though DISPLAY=:0.0 appname  worked fine.
[06:00] <rumpel> blind, you probably would need the Xauthority, if you login using a different user than the current desktop user.
[06:00] <keshavkuruva> https://github.com/ffi/ffi/issues/168
[06:00] <blind> Alright, thanks for the info. But there's only one user.
[06:00] <keshavkuruva> https://github.com/seanohalpin/ffi-ncurses/issues/7
[06:01] <blind> and I'm also not doing this very often.. just this once
[06:02] <godofmischief> great that damn near did nothing other then cause me to reboot.
[06:03] <keshavkuruva> is there any ubuntu tech to support this issue https://github.com/seanohalpin/ffi-ncurses/issues/7
[06:03] <godofmischief> compiz is the biggest peice of garbage, you change one thing and causes 30 confilicts then by the time your done nothing works like it used to and you can't figure out what's wrong to return it to the way it was
[06:03] <godofmischief> anyway to reset compiz settings?
[06:04] <grape_> where is the best place to download wine? and am i correct in that it lets you run windows programs without partitioning your harddrive
[06:04] <urlin2u> hmm I mentioned the reboot look on the web
[06:04] <urlin2u> grape_, wine is in the repo's
[06:05] <urlin2u> grape_, some windows things will run not everything though.
[06:05] <grape_> urlin2u_ thanks
[06:05] <rumpel> grape_, the best place is always your package manager
[06:06] <grape_> okay, do you think drivers for a 5 year old aiptek video camera will? im just wondering how far reaching it is
[06:07] <rumpel> grape_, wine tries(!) to translate windows-api-requests to the linux api. Windows drivers won't work with wine.
[06:07] <urlin2u> godofmischief, try unity --replace then reboot
[06:07] <chrobi> urlin2u i take it your not much on the dchp server stuff
[06:07] <mrguser> ubuntu
[06:08] <rumpel> grape_, just plug the cam in and look, if linux has already the needed drivers installed.
[06:08] <urlin2u> chrobi, not really.
[06:08] <godofmischief> urlin2u, sure why not at this point im frustrated, everytime i get things to working like i want the smallest thing throws things into a massive train wreck lets get it
[06:08] <grape_> rumpel_ oh so if there aren't linux drivers, im screwed. I plugged in the cam but I do know how to see it already has the needed linux drivers
[06:09] <rumpel> grape_, install "cheese" and use it for testing.
[06:09] <chrobi> :) its all good
[06:10] <chrobi> l8rs
[06:11] <urlin2u> godofmischief, you can reset compiz with compiz --replace as well if it goes south on you, as I said there are web pages that tell you what is up with compiz and unity you don't want top just go wilee-nilee adjusting it, unity is a plugin there.
[06:12] <godofmischief> and none of that made any difference.
[06:13] <urlin2u> godofmischief, here is the one I use originally read carefully, it applies to oneiric.  http://reformedmusings.wordpress.com/2011/05/05/howto-get-the-compiz-desktop-cube-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty-and-unity/
[06:13] <godofmischief> with cairo dock running all my desktop are still all in a row up and down, no more left right up down with ctrl + alt
[06:13] <godofmischief> i loved the ways the windows would fly in left right up and down
[06:14] <urlin2u> godofmischief, the link is for getting the cube, probably not what you want it sounds like.
[06:15] <xtgyal> Hello if I want to change the write permissions of Apache's /var/www folder, can I use "sudo chown myusername /var/www" ?  the folder is owned by root as default, changing the ownership won't affect its security yes?
[06:16] <blind> Okay, some more help if I could, or point me to the right place.. Trying to set up a vncserver remotely via ssh, and the server it appears is running, but the viewer can't connect?
[06:16] <rasusto> does anyone know how to get the fade effect on the selection box (click and drag on the desktop) like in the new ubuntu? I think its a compiz setting somewhere
[06:16] <godofmischief> urlin2u, correct, i just did a compiz reset that says to follow with the unity reset, we shall see i suppose.
[06:16] <rasusto> xtgyal you want that folder too be owned by root, apache runs as root
[06:17] <godofmischief> my terminal window is not yet done stopped after setting update "run_key" just sitting there
[06:17] <xtgyal> I want to be able to copy & paste files from Ubuntu's GUI file explorer, I cannot do that presently since I don't own the folder
[06:17] <godofmischief> soon after it finishes i should reboot again maybe things will be like they were before i touched it lol
[06:17] <urlin2u> godofmischief, did you run unity --replace
[06:17] <godofmischief> urlin2u, that seemd to do nothing
[06:17] <rasusto> xtgyal sudo nautilus
[06:18] <Lasers> gksu nautilus
[06:18] <urlin2u> godofmischief, you need to reboot to see the work done.
[06:18] <xtgyal> what does nautilus do?
[06:18] <xtgyal> I am new to Ubuntu sorry
[06:18] <rumpel> rasusto, "sudo nautilus" is no good idea. Use gksudo.
[06:18] <urlin2u> godofmischief, the refresh in the desktop and compiz is well not so good.
[06:18] <godofmischief> urlin2u, ive since rebooted, from taht, waiting on this most recent reset command, then i'll so unity --reset again
[06:18] <xtgyal> what's gksudo?
[06:18] <gunfire007> how to save the setting of compiz /
[06:18] <rasusto> nautilus is the file browser, gksu is a better way to do it, like Lasers said. it runs the file browser as root
[06:19] <urlin2u> xtgyal, the graphic sudo
[06:19] <gunfire007> every time i restart the computer settings are lost
[06:19] <xtgyal> it's a program I open?
[06:19] <rumpel> xtgyal, a wrapper that makes it more secure using it. Otherwise you could get into trouble like blocking yourself out of your desktop.
[06:19] <Lasers> rasusto: What directory are you trying to copy/paste to?
[06:19] <Lasers> Err, xtgyal ^^
[06:19] <godofmischief> i absolutely love linux i do, so much simpler "in some ways" features integrated, but damn it its so fickle at times lol
[06:20] <xtgyal> I want to be able to write HTML files and copy & paste them into var/www on the GUI file explorer, right now I don't have permission to do that
[06:20] <urlin2u> godofmischief, its basically where I started, windows was a afterthought.
[06:20] <rasusto> godofmischief, machines don't make mistakes, but at the same time they assume absolutley nothing
[06:20] <godofmischief> urlin2u, i truely despise windows these days i do.
[06:20] <urlin2u> rasusto, lol
[06:20] <godofmischief> rasusto, urlin2u  INDEED.
[06:20] <magn3ts> why is swapoff burning through an entire core of my CPU?
[06:21] <Corey> magn3ts: Has it completed successfully?
[06:21] <xtgyal> so I just type "gksudo" in Terminal?
[06:21] <magn3ts> Corey, not yet.
[06:21] <magn3ts> Corey, it has now.
[06:21] <Corey> Urm... how big was your swap partition?
[06:21] <Lasers> xtgyal: From the standpoint, it's best to leave that directory alone (owned by www-data) so they can't mess with your home directory. Type "gksu nautilus" in terminal. It'll open up root nautilus.
[06:21] <andyn> you should run only haskell programs. at leat they can be mathematically proven correct.
[06:21] <urlin2u> godofmischief, it works for me when I need it, basically to submit papers to my college online d2l.
[06:21] <magn3ts> Corey, it was 2 GB but I have 16GB of memory, there should be nthing in swap
[06:22] <xtgyal> @rumpel said not to use nautilus?
[06:22] <rasusto> xtfyal "gksudo nautilus"
[06:22] <Corey> magn3ts: Curious.  If you swapon it and then swapoff, does it still eat CPU?
[06:22] <magn3ts> Corey, I can't try, I just burnt that disk.
[06:22] <rasusto> if you do gksudo it will just ask you to type in the command
[06:22] <Corey> "burnt that disk?"
[06:23] <magn3ts> Corey, formatted it, lol
[06:23] <godofmischief> going to the store while this terminal window finishes need more vodka running out. :(
[06:23] <rumpel> xtgyal, no. just use gksudo for applications with gui. I personally never use any drag&drop file manager with root permissions. It's just too easy to accidentally drag&drop your system dead. :>
[06:23] <magn3ts> Corey, even if it was moving stuff out of that swap area, I don't see why the proc needed to be pegged :S
[06:23] <xtgyal> ok I typed "gksudo nautilus" and it looks like it just opened up the file explorer
[06:24] <magn3ts> Corey, though it looks like gnome-shell is also kinda crapping itself which is probably the performance stuff I'm seeing.
[06:24] <Lasers> xtgyal: Now, be careful and do what you have. CLOSE IT AFTERWARD.
[06:24] <magn3ts> (swapoff was at 99% though)
[06:24] <rasusto> xtgyal BE CAREFUL like rumpel said you could accidentally your whole system. you should be able to copy stuff to /www/home
[06:25] <xtgyal> ohhhh ok so this is the same file explorer except I have root permission?  why can't I just change the permission for that one particular folder?  or is that bad for security having the Apache folder with access outside root?
[06:25] <rasusto> xtgyal, that would work but apache runs as root so it is best to have the folder owned by root
[06:26] <xtgyal> ok
[06:26] <xtgyal> well this isn't so bad, certainly beats trying to copy & paste files individually with Terminal
[06:26] <xtgyal> thanks
[06:27] <glebihan> rasusto, apache does not run as root (at least not by default, and should not)
[06:27] <xtgyal> now I can edit my index.html from the GUI woot
[06:27] <glebihan> rasusto, it runs as www-data by default
[06:28] <xtgyal> I dunno, I had MS IIS in Windows previously, and you could edit the HTML files being hosted right from Windows File Explorer without any special permissions
[06:29] <rasusto> apache is started by root, at least one apache process should be running as root
[06:29] <glebihan> rasusto, the apache daemon runs as root, but the files are accessed by processes run as www-data
[06:30] <rasusto> but...but...ok you win
[06:32] <xtgyal> @rasuto lol
[06:33] <elky> xtgyal, windows works a bit differently to linux in regard to users. many people have full admin access on their user accounts in windows, so they're basically running as the root user all the time.
[06:33] <xtgyal> yes I've kinda figured that out, I've read up a bit on the root user, seems like a pretty good idea for preventing issues
[06:33] <dr_willis> windows is just weird.....
[06:34] <Corey> Technically a process can start as root and then drop privileges via a system call.
[06:34] <xtgyal> my Windows crashed and wouldn't take the factory disks :-( so I switched to Linux :-p
[06:34] <dr_willis> i thought a user in the www-data group could edit those www files
[06:35] <nac4l> why would "sh" produce different results than "./" when launching an application?  How can I identify where "./" points?
[06:35] <xtgyal> I'm editing them now no problem with gksudo nautilus
[06:35] <xtgyal> can right-click and open, edit, save
[06:35] <nac4l> are there different flags that are hidden for ./ and sh
[06:35] <dr_willis> nac4l:  ./script   chech the first line of the script
[06:35] <elky> nac4l, ./ will rely on the script declaring its language, sh tells it explicitly it's shell code
 i dont think so
[06:36] <elky> (even if it's not shell code, in which case it'll fail)
[06:36] <nac4l> ah, I see
[06:36] <inashdeen> hi, just an enquiry here. i am now having wine 1.3.34. i am trying to install ms office 2010. this is only the trial version. so known a crack called as microsoft 2010 activator. but that runs on .net 3.5, which is rated garbage on wine. so where can i find an alternative for that?
[06:36] <dr_willis> xtgyal: thats sort of a nasty way to edit the stuff
[06:36] <nac4l> thank you guys
[06:36] <rumpel> nac4l, if the shebang is like #!/bin/bash  then it will be different, because "sh" is often a symlink to dash, not bash.
[06:36] <xtgyal> I've always edited webfiles in Notepad (gedit here)
[06:37] <drkatz> rumpel: you are kind of wrong
[06:37] <rasusto> does anyone know how to get the fading effect on the selection box (click and drag on desktop) like in the new ubuntu? I need the window match for compiz
[06:37] <rumpel> drkatz, how?
[06:37] <xtgyal> I've never found a web editor I liked :-p
[06:38] <xtgyal> haven't checked out any Ubuntu versions, but even Microsoft's new Expression Suite I wasn't totally happy with :-p
[06:38] <elky> xtgyal, i use quanta, it's not too bad
[06:39] <xtgyal> I like complete control over the webpage, I don't see the point of using a fancy editor if I have to write all the code myself anyway to get it exactly how I want:-p
[06:40] <nac4l> why would people put an app in /usr/sbin instead of /usr/bin, or /usr/local/sbin/ rather than /usr/local/bin?  I know that non-package items go in /usr/local/bin instead of /usr/bin, but don't know the sbin stuff
[06:40] <rasusto> I have yet to find a decent wysiwyg html editor
[06:40] <xtgyal> gedit / Notepad lol
[06:40] <andyn> superuser bin. system admin tools.
[06:40] <nac4l> by the way, I couldn't find my "sh" home dir.  so that's what brought me to that question
[06:42] <html> how do i updaate firefox?
[06:42] <maslen> How can I report a bug in gedit? I have a txt file that gets displayed as garbage, even though all it is is a bunch of zeros.
[06:42] <dr_willis> the term 'sh home dir' dont make sence
[06:43] <rumpel> nac4l, try "man hier". Very informative. :)
[06:43] <maslen> Or actually, could someone here try opening the file in 11.10, to make sure that it wasn't fixed already?
[06:44] <maslen> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20607725/broken_gedit.py
[06:44] <xtgyal> btw is there a way to open PDF links in Firefox's web browser?
[06:44] <omido> hi i've installed google chrome using google's deb installer. is it safe ?
[06:44] <maslen> omido: Only if you trust google
[06:44] <omido> xtgyal:  i believe there is an extension for that
[06:44] <omido> maslen:  because chromium was unstable for me
[06:44] <inashdeen> hi, just for experience here. how do i make a sip call using terminal?
[06:45] <rumpel> maslen, binary 0s?
[06:45] <maslen> Nope. Plain ascii
[06:45] <nac4l> awesome rumpel
[06:45] <maslen> I typed "00", and copied it a bunch of times, until it was nice and large.
[06:46] <xtgyal> where do I go to find a Firefox plugin?  would installing Adobe Reader include a plugin?
[06:46] <nac4l> wow w2a is resource heavy
[06:46] <nac4l> w3af i meant
[06:47] <rumpel> masen, what about other editors? what's the output of "file <mytextfile>"?
[06:47] <maslen> rumpel: Try catting it.
[06:47] <inashdeen> i also have a problem with using microphone on ubuntu. my internal works fine, but my headphone only produce a buzzing sound. my voice was not picked up i can say. i thought its an issue with alsa, so i tweaked it in evry way. failed.test the mic on windows and found that they are working perfectly
[06:47] <maslen> rumpel: "a python script text executable"
[06:48] <xtgyal> would mozilla-libreoffice do it? says Mozilla plugin for office productivity
[06:48] <maslen> rumpel: It opens fine on Notepad++ on windows
[06:49] <paul_x> join #pittsburgh
[06:49] <rumpel> masen, hmm... what kind of garbage do you see?
[06:49] <paul_x> quit
[06:49] <omido> maslen: you mean google is not safe ?
[06:49] <rumpel> masen, maybe gedit gets confused by windows-linebreaks? (just speculating)
[06:50] <xtgyal> I like Google
[06:50] <xtgyal> I have Chrome installed here
[06:50] <xtgyal> works fine on Ubuntu & Lubuntu 11.10
[06:50] <maslen> rumpel: I had exclusively created and used the file on linux when I created this 'broken' file
[06:51] <xtgyal> @paul_x what's in #Pittsburgh?
[06:51] <rumpel> masen, have you tried any other editor?
[06:51] <inashdeen> hi, anyone knows how to make sip call using terminal?
[06:51] <somsip> maslen: fine in vi
[06:51] <maslen> rumpel: Only notepad++ on windows, which handles it fine. I tried using it in notepad, via wine, but it crashed
[06:51] <somsip> masen: fine in vi (too close names!)
[06:51] <rumpel> masen, maybe really a gedit bug.
[06:52] <maslen> rumpel: http://picpaste.com/pics/broken_gedit-KUoaP2hR.1324018325.png
[06:52] <omido> xtgyal:  you have both ubuntu and lubuntu on same machine?
[06:52] <rumpel> masen, yeah, looks like gedit-bug
[06:52] <somsip> maslen: ah - vi did not display below 8
[06:52] <rumpel> damn...
[06:52] <rumpel> maslen, yeah, looks like gedit-bug
[06:52] <xtgyal> it looks like mozplugger is the standard for Firefox PDFs
[06:53] <somsip> maslen: nah - that fiel is half a meg - no way for 8 lines...
[06:53] <rumpel> maslen, or deactivate "do not split lines" in gedit settings
[06:53] <maslen> somsip: That line with the 0's is the reason why it's large -> It's writing out 512KB worth of 0's at a time.
[06:54] <godofmischief> bah1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
[06:54] <somsip> maslen: I see it now - vi does display, but hides line 8 until it is the top line on the page. Which makes sense I suppose
[06:54] <xtgyal> humbug ;-)
[06:55] <Multbrelch> Good morning all
[06:55] <godofmischief> linux: my favorite girl i love to beat
[06:55] <rumpel> maslen, hm... so it's complete nonsense and shouldn't be in a script file anyway? :)
[06:55] <omido> i have unusual problems in ubuntu
[06:55] <maslen> So, the picture is here: http://picpaste.com/pics/broken_gedit-KUoaP2hR.1324018325.png and the file is here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20607725/broken_gedit.py . Can either of you file the bug? I'm too lazy/busy to make an account on yet another site.
[06:56] <maslen> rumpel: Independent of that, gedit should be able to handle it.
[06:56]  * sattu94 Finally figured out automatic nick setup in pidgin! Is happy!
[06:56] <maslen> Consider it a rather mean test case.
[06:56] <omido> ubuntu is unstable
[06:56] <somsip> maslen: searchs for gedit long line bug gives results
[06:57] <maslen> somsip: Not for me. Perhaps I'm not searching the right way.
[06:57] <Multbrelch> Q: I would like to put all on the Desktop (all files) onto a separate partition (should be automatic during boot, only the desktop no other home directories). How can I tell the system and what must I do?
[06:57] <sattu94> omido: What problems ?
[06:57] <somsip> maslen: https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=gedit+long+line+bugs&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[06:57] <rumpel> maslen, gedit is like notepad: it's simple and easy. I doubt that it will handle extreme test cases well because it's just not designed for something like that.
[06:57] <omido> very strange and unusual problems
[06:58] <omido> i touch my laptop's plastic palm rest and ubuntu does some strange things
[06:58] <rumpel> maslen, at least it didn't crash right away :D
[06:58] <omido> let me show you screen shots of my problems . one is this. this happens for no reason : http://img.susepaste.org/images/c63cabde.png
[06:58] <sattu94> Multbrelch: You could have ~/Desktop autmounted to the partition you want using /etc/fstab..
[06:59] <Multbrelch> sattu94, does this work?
[06:59] <sattu94> Multbrelch: it should, not tried though.
[06:59] <omido> also when i touch my laptops full plastic palmrest this happens for no reason : http://img.susepaste.org/images/89996561.png
[06:59] <StarryNight> ?
[07:00] <sattu94> Multbrelch:  and move all you desktop files onto that partition, using Nautilus i guess.
[07:00] <omido> please see the shots and help me with my issue guys
[07:00] <Multbrelch> sattu94, you mean something like:    # /dev/sda5
[07:00] <Multbrelch> UUID=f72aac23-092f-4484-b35c-f222c106d716  /home/user/Desktop    ext3   defaults   0 2
[07:01] <sattu94> Multbrelch: yes, it should, though i dont completely guarantee that it'll work.
[07:01] <Multbrelch> sattu94, :)
[07:01] <Multbrelch> k
[07:01] <sattu94> Multbrelch:  AFAIK it shoudl
[07:01] <Multbrelch> AFAIK = ?
[07:02] <sattu94> Multbrelch: As Far as i know
[07:02] <Multbrelch> haha , k, funny
[07:02] <Multbrelch> sattu94, thx, solution was obvious ... still early in the morning here
[07:03] <Multbrelch> and still sleeping
[07:03] <sattu94> omido: palmrest, ot the touch pad right ?
[07:03] <KL> I am currently running 10.04 LTS, I would like to get the lastest version of KVM-Qemu installed. Any idea how? I am new to ubuntu. Is the latest version of KVM-Qemu stable?
[07:03] <sattu94> omido: not*
[07:04] <guest-Rv6lK0> hi
[07:04] <guest-Rv6lK0> hai
[07:04] <omido> sattu94:  no . its just a plastic thing . not the touch pad . thats what makes me wonder why it happens.
[07:05] <sattu94> Multbrelch: Make sure you manage the permissions properly or gnome may go wonky with the desktop.
[07:06] <sattu94> omido: does it happen while typing ?
[07:06] <somsip> omido: what laptop make and model
[07:06] <guest-VGOYUi> Hi. I downloaded the 11.10 live cd, and upon startup, all i get is a screen with options to install, recover etc. I never see the option to "try it". have i downloaded the wrong iso?
[07:06] <ravn> folks, when I have been away from my computer for some time it has done some reshuffling of the memory so there is a whole lot of swapping before there is any response from the machine. Is there some way to configure this away?
[07:06] <omido> sattu94:  it only happens in ubuntu, i've never seen such issue on any other OS. the laptop is a lenovo thinkpad SL510
[07:07] <sattu94> guest-VGOYUi: Possibly, what exactly are the options?
[07:07] <Multbrelch> sattu94, I do
[07:07] <somsip> ravn: what are you doing in the background? Having lots of torrents open can do that for me
[07:07] <Multbrelch> sattu94, thx for help
[07:08] <guest-VGOYUi> if i remember correctly, install, boot from first hard disk, check for problems on cd... recover... like 1 or 2 others. But the graphical display it shows on the website where you click TRY or INSTALL isn't there
[07:08] <guest-VGOYUi> i have installed it already on this computer, but i need to mount the drive to fix my password problems
[07:08] <sattu94> guest-VGOYUi: what is the iso called ?
[07:08] <guest-VGOYUi> er. how can i findthat out?
[07:09] <guest-VGOYUi> 1sec'
[07:09] <sattu94> you downloaded the iso right ?
[07:09] <ravn> somsip: ok, no usually I do nothing but maybe play some music...
[07:09] <guest-VGOYUi> ubuntu 11.10 amd64
[07:09] <sattu94> guest-VGOYUi: that's all ?
[07:09] <guest-VGOYUi> that's what it's titled under Devices
[07:09] <guest-VGOYUi> mind you, the installation worked great. i'm running it right now under guest (as i said my root login is having password issues)
[07:10] <sattu94> guest-VGOYUi: i'm asking about the .iso file dyou downloaded, not the CD.
[07:10] <somsip> ravn: well, if a system is doing other things that need file access, unused processes may be closwer to respond when you next use it. But they'd have to be big music files to do that...
[07:10] <guest-VGOYUi> :/ i downloaded it using 8.04 live cd. i dont think the .iso exists anywhere anymore. just the cd itself
[07:11] <html> how do i updaate firefox?
[07:11] <dr_willis> !firefox
[07:12] <urlin2u> html, to what?
[07:12] <omido> i dont know what to do
[07:12] <html> guest-VGOYUi,  i think it does last i seen it was on a torrant
[07:12] <omido> my issue is really annoying
[07:12] <sattu94> guest-VGOYUi: try running the Install Ubuntu option from the liveCD, if it spawns a nice gfxical envronment then it should be  a desktop one, if not ,it might be an alternate or server CD. abort the installation before you reach the disk partitioner.
[07:13] <html> urlin2u,  firefox its self
[07:13] <guest-VGOYUi> alright. i'll try that, bbl
[07:14] <sattu94> guest-VGOYUi: also, only desktop CDs have Try Ubuntu option..
[07:14] <urlin2u> html, that makes no sense, it updates if there is a package available. If you want the latest release you may need a ppa.
[07:14] <guest-VGOYUi> i downloaded my cd from the main website. the step 1,2,3,4,5 webpage.
[07:14] <guest-VGOYUi> never saw any denotation "desktop" or otherwise
[07:15] <KL>  I am currently running 10.04 LTS, I would like to get the lastest version of KVM-Qemu installed. Any idea how? I am new to ubuntu. Is the latest version of KVM-Qemu stable?
[07:15] <guest-VGOYUi> thanks all- i'll be back after pursuing the install ubuntu route
[07:15] <dr_willis> the term desktop or alternative is in the iso fileame last i looked
[07:15] <omido> please help me guys
[07:16] <sattu94> guest-VGOYUi: yes, you dont need a reinstall, just find out what CD you have.
[07:16] <dr_willis> kl if new. yo may want to try the latest 11.10 release
[07:16] <guest-VGOYUi> maybe i'm silly. if i've already made the cd, and i'm looking at the cd under devices in the home folder, where do i see the iso name?
[07:16]  * maslen recommends omido to a therapist
[07:16] <guest-VGOYUi> folders are boot, dists, doc, efi, install, isolinux, pics, pool, preseed, ubuntu^
[07:16] <html> urlin2u,  well i got fire fox moble version on my andriod ,which i cant find the sync option on the desktop version ,thinking its outdated
[07:17] <guest-VGOYUi> wait, spark hit me
[07:17] <guest-VGOYUi> one sec
[07:17] <sattu94> omido: your issue is a really peculiar one, because you say it works fine in other OSs, but not in Ubuntu
[07:17] <dr_willis> guest-VGOYUi:  the name of the iso file you downloaded. or  it may be metioned in some file on the cd.. or just boot it and see what it has.
[07:17] <omido> sattu94:  its really strange. did you saw the shots?
[07:17] <guest-VGOYUi> ubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[07:17] <guest-VGOYUi> <3
[07:18] <sattu94> guest-VGOYUi: you have the desktop, see! :D...
[07:18] <copunix> hi y have a big problem with my server
[07:18] <guest-VGOYUi> huzah.
[07:18] <sattu94> guest-VGOYUi: It should have the try ubuntu option.
[07:18] <guest-VGOYUi> even if i have it installed?
[07:18] <copunix> GREEN REJECT 	lan-1 	UDP 	
[07:18] <copunix> 192.168.2.102
[07:18] <copunix> 	137(NETBIOS-NS) 	00:2c:3e:04:54:03 	
[07:18] <copunix> 192.168.2.255
[07:18] <copunix> 	137(NETBIOS-NS)
[07:18] <FloodBot1> copunix: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:19] <guest-VGOYUi> cuz it's like.... not anywhere. uuugh. i think i might have torrented it.
[07:19] <copunix> hh
[07:19] <sattu94> guest-VGOYUi: You'll get the try ubuntu option only when you boot from the live CD.
[07:19] <guest-VGOYUi> dagflabbit.
[07:19] <KL> dr_willis: I was just under the assumption that 10.04 is more stable than 11.10... My goal is to build a server for virtualization. It will be running multiple KVMs.
[07:19] <guest-VGOYUi> i did torrent it. lemme look for the name
[07:19] <_Neytiri_> i have 2 rar archives left over from my windows system that i  lost the password to is there a utility that i can use to remove the passwprd?
[07:20] <sattu94> guest-VGOYUi: You will NOT get it if you boot to GRUB or an already installed system.
[07:20] <html> guest-VGOYUi, and check to see where u got it from
[07:20] <guest-VGOYUi> if i torrented it, i probably clicked the first link i could find, indicating ubuntu-11.10-alternate-amd64.iso.torrent would be the name of the download
[07:21] <sattu94> guest-VGOYUi: yes, possibly.
[07:22] <guest-VGOYUi> does the Try option have a file name, maybe i could search the cd for it
[07:22] <omido> :-(
[07:22] <pfifo> I should start charging for support via PM
[07:23] <guest-VGOYUi> lul. it's amazing y'all do this for free
[07:23] <sattu94> guest-VGOYUi: No, it's not what you think it is, I thought you wanted to boot to a live environment right ?
[07:24] <guest-VGOYUi> i'm just going to torrent the desktop version, so i know for sure i have a bootable cd---write it, run it, and try from there.
[07:24] <guest-VGOYUi> yez.
[07:24] <guest-VGOYUi> so i can mount my hard drive and change the password hash to guest
[07:24] <NuxRo> Hello. Any ubuntu dev around that knows what's the last version of Jockey driver installer that uses gtk2?
[07:24] <sattu94> guest-VGOYUi: Why do you want to boot to a liveCD when u already have an installed system ?
[07:24] <guest-VGOYUi> ^^
[07:25] <pfifo> !info jockey
[07:25] <guest-VGOYUi> i read i nead to change the hash inside shadow to a sample guest hash, so i can get back into my root
[07:25] <sattu94> I think there should be an easier way.
[07:26] <guest-VGOYUi> with me, theres always an easier way...
[07:26] <sattu94> guest-VGOYUi: your current user is guest, what happened to the user created during installation ?
[07:27] <guest-VGOYUi> i changed the password during the night, and seemingly cant remember it. when i try to boot in recovery, i use the passwd USER command, and get an authentication modification error.
[07:27] <copunix> hy y have a problem
[07:28] <sattu94> guest-VGOYUi: what user did you use in the recovery mode /
[07:28] <guest-VGOYUi> none...?
[07:28] <guest-VGOYUi> it goes straight to root i believe...?
[07:29] <guest-VGOYUi> "authentication token manipulation error"
[07:29] <sattu94> guest-VGOYUi: okay, so did u try sudo passwd root ?
[07:29] <guest-VGOYUi> um. no
[07:29] <guest-VGOYUi> i'd think that'd prompt me for my lost password
[07:29] <guest-VGOYUi> wouldn't it?
[07:29] <guest-VGOYUi> hey, uh how do i pm? i feel like im spamming pub chat
[07:30] <vyrgozunqk> hey guys, goodmorning
[07:32] <html> vyrgozunqk, good nite lol
[07:32] <vyrgozunqk> i have a little problem on gnome shell i have two keyboard layout notificators, one is ubuntu's with the flag and the other is without icon only a crosses red circle
[07:32] <vyrgozunqk> i want to remove one of them but i don't know how
[07:33] <vyrgozunqk> can you help ?
[07:34] <bodoh> hallo list .. I'm now in kubuntu .. how to install gnome? .. PLEASE .. gnome and not that ridiculous unity or union thing
[07:35] <gogeta> bodoh: gnome-shell is gnome 3
[07:35] <dr_willis> bodoh:  what version of kubuntu
[07:35] <bodoh> the latest one dr_willis
[07:35] <bodoh> so gogeta  ... apt-get gnome-shell?
[07:35] <gogeta> :)
[07:35] <grape_> gogeta .... Dragonballz right?
[07:35] <pfifo> If I upgrade to Linux 3.0 what are the chances thet my computer will become sentient and try to take over the world?
[07:35] <gogeta> a movie but yea
[07:36] <dr_willis> latese could mean beta...  install gnome-shell  ;)
[07:36] <bodoh> I will dr_willis
[07:36] <bodoh> anyway .. that gnome-shell is not gonna give me the ridiculous union/unity ubuntu-desktop .. right?
[07:37] <gogeta> bodoh: no thats the package name for gnome 3
[07:37] <adnub> i reinstalled vlc because it crashes every time i press the extended settings button. after reinstalling it, the problem still persists.how can i get this bug(?) fixed?
[07:37] <bodoh> thanks gogeta
[07:37] <bodoh> how is that gnome 3 anyway? I heard linus hated it so much
[07:37] <dr_willis> unity is a shell for gnome.. as is gnome shell.. neither are rediculous..
[07:37] <gogeta> bodoh: getting better
[07:37] <bodoh> I tried the one with mint 12 ... I hated that too
[07:37] <gogeta> bodoh: :(
[07:37] <pfifo> adnub, run vlc from the command line and pastebin the output
[07:38] <bodoh> i c .. ok .. I'll just install it and try it
[07:38] <bodoh> and pass a judgment
[07:38] <grape_> i noticed someone early askk is there any free colud computing platform in ubuntu, i didnt get to see the answer, but my particular question is: is there any software for ubuntu that allows people to offer up cycles when they are not using their computer to a cloud network for others to compute off of, rather than giving companies more control of our use of software
[07:38] <gogeta> bodoh: mint 12 is the best so far so ifyou didnt like that
[07:38] <dr_willis> use them for 2 months... then judge..
[07:39] <pfifo> grape_, look into seti @ home
[07:39] <bodoh> I forget why I didnt like it ... but anyway, I didnt like it and installed this kubuntu instead
[07:39] <gogeta> bodoh: the issue with both gnome and unity they wanna be touchscreen frendly and nobody uses touchscreen pcs its a tablet thing
[07:39] <bodoh> I used mint 11 for like 5-6 months before
[07:39] <bodoh> ah ,, i c gogeta
[07:39] <bodoh> I MIGHT buy that HP touchpad though
[07:40] <bodoh> with your info .. I can then try to install it on it
[07:40] <gogeta> bodoh: dont bother overpriced
[07:40] <bodoh> not at all .. it's just like around 200
[07:40] <gogeta> bodoh: a nook tablet is 250 and just as powerfull
[07:40] <bodoh> pretty cheap
[07:40] <bodoh> will you install gnome on it?
[07:40] <bodoh> I have already an ipad for tablet actually
[07:41] <grape_> pfifo_ does arent you only offering it up to seti though, it doesn't allow any use for invididuals based on the amount of cycles they offer up does it? wow i can't believe 3 million people care enough to do that
[07:41] <bodoh> here .. cheap ..http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/ele/2755749521.html
[07:41] <bodoh> then I can install the 'touch-screen friendly' gnome ;)
[07:41] <gogeta> bodoh: you ca get a icona from gamestop its tigra 2 for 250 as well
[07:41] <gogeta> tigra 2 ownez
[07:41] <adnub> pfifo, http://pastebin.com/JZKHx69b
[07:41] <bodoh> what is icona? another tablet?
[07:42] <gogeta> bodoh: yea acer icona
[07:42] <copunix> wath is netbios-ns udp 137
[07:42] <pfifo> grape_, there are several things like seti@home if you dont want to look for ET then this will actually better mankind http://www.mersenne.org/
[07:42] <gogeta> bodoh: good thing abought iconas and nook is they cant be briked when your hacking it like a touchpad can be
[07:43] <bodoh> shit .. how to install the jre plugins for firefox?
[07:43] <dr_willis> !java
[07:43] <pfifo> adnub, where did you get this VLC from?
[07:43] <andrew_50> adnub: Perhaps try: vlc -I qt4 --reset-config --reset-plugins-cache
[07:43] <Mr_EE1> hello guys
[07:43] <adnub> pfifo, from their site
[07:44] <pfifo> adnub, ahh i see, well you should install from the repos, that version looks bugged
[07:44] <adnub> andrew_50, ill try that command and ill get back to you soon as i get the result
[07:44] <Mr_EE1> i want to watch tv on my desktop how do i configure it on lubuntu11.10...my tv- card is phillips sa7130x
[07:44] <pfifo> adnub, or install a different version for their site
[07:45] <gogeta> pfifo: vls crashy noooo
[07:45] <adnub> andrew_50, it still crashes :(
[07:45] <gogeta> Mr_EE1: depends on what codec the card uses and if thers a linux driver
[07:46] <dr_willis> !info tvtime
[07:46] <gogeta> Mr_EE1: and just like windows you will need tv card playback softwhere
[07:47] <Mr_EE1> gogeta: so how would i know that what codec
[07:47] <pfifo> why do they not make tv cards that used digital and/or hdtv
[07:47] <dr_willis> pfifo:  err... they do
[07:47] <ikonia> Mr_EE1: I've told you exactly what do to 4 times now to start to getting your TV card working
[07:47] <pfifo> dr_willis, then i guess newegg just dosent sell them
[07:48] <gogeta> Mr_EE1: http://www.ehow.com/how_8486266_access-tuner-card-ubuntu-linux.html
[07:48] <dr_willis> pfifo:  i imagine most all new ones support it.
[07:48] <pfifo> dr_willis, i was looking for one i could use with PS3, nothing found
[07:48] <gogeta> Mr_EE1: been so many years i have no idea on name anymore
[07:49] <gogeta> names
[07:49] <brack9> Hey
[07:49] <gogeta> Mr_EE1: but it seems both vlc and mplayer have the abilty
[07:49] <dr_willis> pfifo:  could be they all do so they dont mention it
[07:49] <dr_willis> bbl
[07:50] <copunix> wath is netbios-ns udp 137
[07:50] <brack9> What's the best practice for www-data permissions?  root owns /var/www and www-data owns any subfolders?
[07:50] <brack9> if the subfolders of /var/www are individual sites
[07:50] <brack9> is that acceptable security-wise?
[07:50] <tanio> giorno a tutti:)
[07:50] <pfifo> brack9, seems reasonable
[07:51] <brack9> is that how most people do it?
[07:51] <brack9> I'm especially interested in big web hosts
[07:52] <gogeta> Mr_EE1: ah thats the name its called tvtime
[07:52] <gogeta> Mr_EE1: that will let you use the tv card change channels etc
[07:52] <pfifo> brack9, i make it all owned by root, and marked readonly, and if www-data needs to hadle uploads or write files then i create a folder somewhere that it can write to
[07:52] <Mr_EE1> gogeta: it does have the driver for linux
[07:52] <ikonia> Mr_EE1: have you done what I told you to do last time you asked this
[07:52] <gogeta> Mr_EE1: then install tvtime
[07:53] <gogeta> Mr_EE1: you should be able to use the card just fine
[07:54] <Mr_EE1> gogeta: tvtime it doesnt wanna open
[07:54] <k5egg> I compiled my own 3.1.5 kernel for 11.04, and everything seems work great except I can't pair anything over bluetooth.  Is there a common fix for this?  google hasn't found me anything solid on it
[07:54] <gogeta> Mr_EE1: yu need to set the card and stuff
[07:55] <gogeta> Mr_EE1: at first its just a blue screen
[07:55] <ikonia> k5egg: if you've built your own kernel, that's pretty muich your issue to work through and resolve
[07:55] <ikonia> k5egg: checking lib-bluez compatability against your kernel version and the bluetooth device against your kernel version is the way to start though
[07:55] <gogeta> Mr_EE1: hit f1and set the souce and regen
[07:55] <Mr_EE1> gogeta: what are the staff i need to do
[07:55] <gogeta> Mr_EE1: in tvtime hit f1 set the souce to the tv card and the regen
[07:56] <gogeta> Mr_EE1: then it should be working
[07:56] <gogeta> Mr_EE1: if its not then your missig the video codecs or driver
[07:57] <gogeta> Mr_EE1: tv time uses the video 4 linux driver thats what my tv card used
[07:57] <Mr_EE1> gogeta: doesnt wanna open at all
[07:57] <gogeta> Mr_EE1: oh and do a channel scan lol
[07:58] <gogeta> Mr_EE1: eh
[07:58] <k5egg> ikonia: thanks, I'll check on that :)
[07:58] <tewa> is there any smart converter exept winff?
[07:59] <skumara> how to disable natural scrolling in ubuntu?
[07:59] <DannyButterman> Hi there
[07:59] <King_Anthony> how do you edit the gconf settings in 11.10
[08:00] <King_Anthony> running gconf-editor wont work
[08:00] <King_Anthony> :(
[08:00] <DannyButterman> Does someone here use samba shares over a wireless connection ?
[08:00] <ikonia> DannyButterman: yes
[08:00] <iceroot> DannyButterman: what is your qeustion?
[08:00] <tanio> Mi ritiro auguri di buon Natale :)
[08:00] <ikonia> !it | tanio
[08:00] <gogeta> Mr_EE1: Kaffeine also has tv support
[08:01] <html> how can i tell what gpu slot i have ?
[08:01] <ikonia> html: look on the motherboard manual
[08:01] <iceroot> html: you mean pci, agp, pci-e?
[08:01] <gogeta> Mr_EE1: and has a nice little setup
[08:01] <skumara> how to disable natural scrolling in ubuntu 11.10?
[08:01] <DannyButterman> ikonia, iceroot: I do too, but the pc takes ages to shutdown, because of these shares
[08:02] <iceroot> DannyButterman: the umount take ages?
[08:02] <DannyButterman> ikonia, iceroot: don't you have the same problem ?
[08:02] <ikonia> DannyButterman: no
[08:02] <DannyButterman> iceroot: yes, because the wireless shuts down before any umounting can take place
[08:02] <iceroot> DannyButterman: i am not using samba because my house is clean of microsoft
[08:03] <gogeta> iceroot: samba works on linux to
[08:03] <gogeta> iceroot: lol
[08:03] <iceroot> gogeta: nfs too
[08:03] <aBound> lol iceroot
[08:03] <Night-hacks> when doing aptitude update , the status hangs on 99% [Waiting for headers]  ??
[08:03] <dr_willis> sshfs!
[08:03] <Night-hacks> it never ends
[08:03] <gogeta> iceroot: samba aculy is faster wiehn it comes to linux/linux work
[08:04] <King_Anthony> is there a gnome configuration editor in 11.10?
[08:04] <gogeta> iceroot: being linux network stack isnt fail and samba knoes it
[08:04] <iceroot> gogeta: its much more fun to fight with different uids on nfs :;)
[08:04] <dr_willis> hmm i found nfs faster
[08:04] <iceroot> dr_willis: its not because of the bad locking
[08:04] <iceroot> dr_willis: nfs to a real bad file-locking
[08:05] <DannyButterman> ikonia: your box shuts down quickly ? how are your shares configured ? mine are on fstab with cifs
[08:05] <iceroot> dr_willis: you will see if you use kontact on an nfs-home :)
[08:05] <Night-hacks> any idea for my problem ?
[08:05] <dr_willis> cant say ive really notuced. i yse sshfs these days
[08:05] <ikonia> DannyButterman: mine are also
[08:05] <ikonia> DannyButterman: some are manually mounted at boot time as I don't need them all the time
[08:05] <dr_willis> i just tend to transfer sngle files
[08:05] <aBound> I definitely want to be free of MS myself.
[08:06] <iceroot> dr_willis: never used sshfs
[08:06] <DannyButterman> ikonia: and what is your ubuntu version ?
[08:06] <ikonia> DannyButterman: 10.04
[08:06] <gogeta> DannyButterman: ubuntu??
[08:06] <gogeta> DannyButterman: lol
[08:06] <iceroot> dr_willis: e.g. my playstation3 and wii are using nfs-shares i dont know if they can handle sshfs or samba
[08:07] <DannyButterman> ikonia:
[08:07] <gogeta> iceroot: my ps3 laughed at my windows shares but loved my nas
[08:07] <DannyButterman> ikonia: then I don't understand. I also use 10.04 (64 actually but it shouldn't matter)
[08:07] <shovell> having a problem using empathy or pidgin for anything other that yim
[08:07] <gogeta> iceroot: its wifi is epic fail
[08:08] <DannyButterman> ikonia : what are your mount option in fstab then ?
[08:08] <gogeta> iceroot: had to hard wire i for netflick hd to work
[08:08] <ikonia> DannyButterman: just -o username
[08:08] <truepurple> I am having trouble with system processes being taken up by a seemingly idle ubuntu system. Like it says it is using 2.3gb of memory, but the list of processes running doesn't suggest anything near that, and it seems like nearly always that one core or another of my 4 core intel recent cpu is maxed out at 100%, can anyone help?
[08:08] <ikonia> truepurple: you'll find that is file system caching
[08:08] <truepurple> Plus today my browser keeps freezing up on me
[08:08] <dr_willis> !ram
[08:08] <truepurple> ikonia, it says no paging is being used
[08:08] <ikonia> truepurple: if you use "top" you'll see what's taking up your CPU space
[08:09] <ikonia> truepurple: I didn't say paging, I said file system caching
[08:09] <shovell> am i even in the correct irc?
[08:09] <gogeta> shovell: ?
[08:09] <truepurple> ikonia, where is this "top"?
[08:09] <Yancho> guys anyone can help me try to debug why sudo dhclient wlan0 takes ages (doesn't spit any errors). before it I ran sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid 'OpenWrt_WEP' && sudo ifconfig wlan0 up .. any idea please?
[08:09] <shovell> having a problem using empathy or pidgin for anything other that yim
[08:09] <ikonia> truepurple: and please stop cross posting in ubuntu channels, you've been warned/kicked/banned for this in the past - I'm trying to give you a break by once again asking you
[08:09] <shovell> gogeta, having a problem using empathy or pidgin for anything other that yim
[08:10] <gogeta> shovell: firewalled?
[08:10] <ikonia> truepurple: top is a command launched from the shell
[08:10] <DannyButterman> ikonia: And you confirm you are on a wireless connection on this PC ? handled by NetworkManager ?
[08:10] <truepurple> ikonia, I was not discussing this problem with any other channel
[08:10] <shovell> gogeta, i dont really know
[08:10] <gogeta> shovell: some relly tight firewalls will block messangers
[08:10] <ikonia> truepurple: you are asking it in #ubuntu-beginners, please don't get smart, I'm trying to cut you a break
[08:11] <ikonia> DannyButterman: both my wireless (managed by network manager) and my wired machine have no issue with this at all
[08:11] <gorusw> hello. is it possible to mark packages as installed even they are not using apt-get?
[08:11] <shovell> but the yahoo massenger but not google or aim
[08:11] <ikonia> gorusw: how did you install it
[08:12] <shovell> gogeta, but the yahoo massenger but not google or aim
[08:12] <truepurple> ikonia, I am being smart, only discussions matter, empty rooms do not. And you have not defined your infinite multiple questions thing. As far as I know, I could ask in one room, get no reply, then ask in another a week latter and be violating your super vague made up rule
[08:12] <gogeta> shovell: oh i dont use yahoo so maybe its not working
[08:12] <gogeta> shovell: check your password
[08:12] <gogeta> shovell: if thats the only one failing
[08:13] <DannyButterman> ikonia: we did notice that the eth connection was not delaying the shutdown. But the wireless is. It's been three days I bang my head on the wall on this issue
[08:13] <shovell> gogeta, no yahoo workd but nothing else will sign in
[08:13] <gorusw> ikonia, the tex-suite is installed from another source, not the ubuntu one. The PATH are set correctly, but somehow I don't like to install all tex-binaries of ubuntu, just because they are kile dependencies.
[08:13] <ikonia> DannyButterman: I'm just thinking on this
[08:13] <gogeta> shovell: you check auto login
[08:14] <ikonia> gorusw: please define "another source"
[08:14] <iceroot> DannyButterman: a dirty workaround would be to use the ifdown scripts, which will umount the drive before wifi is down. If i am correct there are pre-hooks on that scripts
[08:14] <shovell> gogeta, i am just starting to use it
[08:15] <gogeta> shovell: well if you didnt go to accounts and enable accounts
[08:15] <gogeta> shovell: it should say why they fail to login
[08:15] <shovell> gogeta, i think it is working  ill let you know thank you
[08:15] <DannyButterman> iceroot: I know... We tried that (/etc/NetworkManager/01ifupdown and /etc/network/if-down.d/somescript) but to no avail. They are simply not executed at all.
[08:15] <gorusw> ikonia, it is a networkshare texlive including all texbinaries, fonts etc...
[08:16] <iceroot> DannyButterman: then i am out of ideas, sorry
[08:16] <grape_> will i be able to partition my harddrive to install windows without backing up my computer and OS
[08:16] <dr_willis> grape_:  allways have backups....
[08:16] <iceroot> grape_: sure you are but have a backup is always a good idea
[08:16] <SigMobile> If I were using cron, would "*/5 * * * * cd sigmabot python protectiontemplates.py" run protectiontemplates.py (located in ~/sigmabot$) every 5 min?
[08:17] <ikonia> gorusw: how was it installed though, the files just copied into place
[08:17] <iceroot> SigMobile: use absolute paths but yes
[08:17] <SigMobile> ok
[08:17]  * SigMobile is a noob
[08:17] <dr_willis> SigMobile:  make a scriptthat you call. may work better
[08:17] <iceroot> SigMobile: make the script executable (chmod +x scriptname)
[08:18] <dr_willis> not sure why you are doing the cd   part
[08:18] <SigMobile> ok, thanks
[08:18] <iceroot> SigMobile: and then /usr/bin/python /home/user/protectiontemplate.py
[08:18] <iceroot> SigMobile: and there is no need for file-extensions
[08:18] <iceroot> SigMobile: e.g. you are calling ping hostname and nocht ping.py hostname
[08:19] <iceroot> SigMobile: the shebang in your scriopt is telling the kernel what program is needed to execute it
[08:20] <gorusw> ikonia the files are just in place, supported by another unit. I can use it on centos or ubuntu, just modifying the PATHs and some other environments. Kile would work also with this non ubuntu binaries. But I don't like to install packages and binaries that are not in use, that is the reason of my question. I have seen opotions in aptitude to mark packages as installed. on the other hand i Read mixing aptitude and apt-get is not a good idea.
[08:20] <SigMobile> got it
[08:20] <SigMobile> thanks guys
[08:21] <shovell> gogeta
[08:21] <thinkclay> Anyone know how to get around this mysql dependency on 10.04? http://pastebin.com/asPrh553
[08:22] <thinkclay> I'm no pro with apt-get and for some reason it's hanging on any update/remove/install i try and throwing that message
[08:22] <iceroot> !info mysql-server lucid
[08:23] <iceroot> thinkclay: you cant use 5.1.41-3? you need the ne4wer version?
[08:23] <thinkclay> well I get that dependency error.. I dont really care about the newer version
[08:23] <pfifo> thinkclay, run `sudo apt-get -f install
[08:24] <shovell> exit
[08:24] <thinkclay> tried it
[08:24] <inashdeen> hi, where can i get the latest CLI sip softphone??
[08:24] <shovell> quit
[08:24] <pfifo> thinkclay, and pastebin that output
[08:24] <iceroot> thinkclay: can you paste the output of "apt-cache policy mysql-server"?
[08:24] <thinkclay> mysql-server:
[08:24] <thinkclay>   Installed: 5.1.58-1
[08:24] <thinkclay>   Candidate: 5.1.58-1
[08:24] <thinkclay>   Version table:
[08:24] <thinkclay>  *** 5.1.58-1 0
[08:24] <FloodBot1> thinkclay: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:25] <zizoo> Hey guys, I've been trying to run this build script that compiles a C application, but it keeps having problems with undefined functions. I'm thinking that maybe linker statements are not in the right order, but I can't find what a lot of these options even are, so I'm confused.
[08:25] <iceroot> thinkclay: the important lines are missing :)
[08:25] <iceroot> thinkclay: use pastebin
[08:25] <thinkclay> http://pastebin.com/YZerGcSH
[08:25] <iceroot> thinkclay:ah you downloaded a deb by hand
[08:25] <zizoo> So I could figure out what it's actually executing, I had it echo everything it runs, and it gave me this line: "gcc -DOGG_DECODE -DMP3_DECODE -DT_LINUX -Wall -O3 -s -lm -lpthread sbagen.c libs/linux-libmad.a libs/linux-libvorbisidec.a -o sbagen"
[08:26] <thinkclay> so how do I resolve? Remove that deb package and go through apt-get?
[08:26] <iceroot> thinkclay: i would suggest to use the version from the repos not the one you downloaded by hand
[08:26] <zizoo> But it doesn't seem to like -lm and -lpthread there, because math and pthread functions are coming in as undefined.
[08:26] <iceroot> thinkclay: sudo dpkg -r mysql-server && sudo apt-get install -f && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[08:27] <iceroot> thinkclay: yes thats the way to do and the way i described
[08:27] <thinkclay> iceroot: will that keep my db's in tact still, or will i need to backup and re-import?
[08:27] <iceroot> zizoo: ##c i guess is better for that
[08:27] <iceroot> thinkclay: that will not delete your databases in /var/lib/mysql/* but a backup is always a good idea
[08:28] <zizoo> iceroot: ##c?
[08:28] <iceroot> zizoo: the irc-channel ##c
[08:28] <iceroot> thinkclay: for the future, its always a good idea to use the software from the repos and not downloaded software
[08:28] <skumara> does ubuntu oneric has by default the reverse scrolling effect? why i get the reverse scroliing effect in my ubuntu but i did not install any software for reverse scrolling?
[08:29] <iceroot> skumara: and what is reverse scrolling?
[08:29] <zizoo> iceroot: Oh, of course, sorry. I just use the XChat interface, as I'm not too familiar with IRC. How do I switch?
[08:29] <iceroot> zizoo: /join ##c
[08:29] <iceroot> !register | zizoo
[08:29] <zizoo> iceroot: thanks
[08:29] <thinkclay> iceroot: good to know. Some sites recommending going directly to them (Mongo for example http://www.mongodb.org/display/DOCS/Ubuntu+and+Debian+packages) so I'm never sure
[08:29] <skumara> iceroot when scroll down in my touchpad the screen scroll up?!!
[08:30] <zizoo> ubottu: Clicked! Will look into that after I look after this problem, thanks.
[08:30] <iceroot> thinkclay: the problem is that you dont get secrutiy-updates, you dont know if the software is ok (malware) and you are fighting with dependencies
[08:30] <iceroot> skumara: ah ok, i never had something like that as default, so the answer is no to your question if it is default
[08:31] <thinkclay> iceroot: okay, now this is the error.. maybe my sources list is to blame? http://pastebin.com/cJsrSdT7
[08:32] <inc0> hi, where can I find ia32-libs ?
[08:32] <inc0> and all of dependences
[08:32] <iceroot> thinkclay: remove all the mongodb repos
[08:32] <skumara> iceroot Do you know how to disable this reverse scrolling effect?
[08:32] <iceroot> inc0: in the repos
[08:32] <iceroot> skumara: i would guess in the mouse-settings but because i am not using gnome/unity i dont know where that is
[08:33] <iceroot> inc0: ia32-libs-multiarch
[08:33] <iceroot> thinkclay: e.g. with "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[08:34] <iceroot> thinkclay: also its not a good idea to use other repos then the ubuntu-repos
[08:34] <skumara> iceroot, I have looked in mouse-settings and touchpad settings. its not there.
[08:34] <iceroot> skumara: then i dont know, sorry
[08:34] <thinkclay> iceroot: got that line out of sources.list.. so now just dpkg remove all references to mongo and start fresh?
[08:34] <iceroot> skumara: maybe you have the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf which has some options about it
[08:35] <skumara> does anyone know how to get list of software installed in the system according to date?
[08:35] <xjohnthomasx> hi my 11.10 upgrade just borked my computer! the keyboard flashes, and it claims it can't mount root partition!? did they change some numbering scheme in grub? I'm still using grub 1.99, though.
[08:35] <iceroot> thinkclay: after sudo apt-get update, yes
[08:35] <iceroot> thinkclay: ut already installed packages from there are not removed
[08:35] <iceroot> skumara: i am not sure if dpkg is storing something like that
[08:36] <iceroot> skumara: for a list of all installed packages you can use "dpkg -l | grep ^ii"
[08:36] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: flashing caps-led?
[08:36] <xjohnthomasx> yeah, all lights flashing
[08:36] <xjohnthomasx> kernel panic
[08:36] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: correct, that is a kernel-panic
[08:37] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: can you start the system with an older kernel?
[08:37] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: you can choose a different kernel in grub (hold shift at boot)
[08:37] <xjohnthomasx> if i know the commands from grub to run.. i'm right now on the machine in a live-usb of xubuntu
[08:37] <zizoo> I can't seem to change channels to ##c in xchat. The Network->Channels menu always freezes and typing "/join ##c" does nothing....
[08:37] <cnz> anyone know how to fix this error error: do_inode_allocate_extents: Failed to allocate 2673 blocks
[08:38] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, i'm on xubuntu in a live usb right now.. is there something i can do to edit the config files and fix everything from here? i tried running boot-repair..
[08:38] <iceroot> zizoo: you need to register your nick on freenode first
[08:38] <iceroot> !register | zizoo
[08:38] <martiert> Hi. I'm trying to compile an OpenGL program using VBO's in ubuntu. The program compiles fine on mac, but in ubuntu I get:  error: ‘glBindBuffer’ was not declared in this scope. Is there a way to update the opengl header in ubuntu? seems out of date
[08:38] <thinkclay> iceroot: you rock. DM me with a paypal email I can float a couple bucks to as a thank you.. You saved me a lot of time :)
[08:38] <zizoo> iceroot: thanks
[08:38] <iceroot> thinkclay: support here is of course free :)
[08:38] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, here is the post I just made about the sitch.. http://bit.ly/vbfUqi
[08:38] <edson> Why is my PulseAudio equalizer not working?
[08:38] <thinkclay> iceroot: i know.. cant let me buy you a beer tho?
[08:39] <iceroot> thinkclay: of course :) but only Becks :)
[08:39] <dr_willis> no charge for awsome. ":-)
[08:39] <cnz> can someone help me with this problem please http://pastebin.com/p8TjWEuF
[08:39] <Yancho> i am trying to connect to an open wep connection (used to connect fine with network-manager). so I did sudo iwconfig essid 'OpenWrt_WEP' and then tried sudo dhclient wlan0 -v but kept having DHCP discover. this is my sudo iwconfig : http://paste.ubuntu.com/771967/ and this is my sudo ifcofnig: http://paste.ubuntu.com/771966/ - any idea where to start tackling this problem please? lshw -c network gives: http://paste.ubuntu.com/771963/
[08:39] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: i dont think its a config-issue
[08:40] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, the upgrade failed on the upgrade of the linux image and header and generic kernel upgrades.. which was the last dpkg function i ran..
[08:40] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: ah ok
[08:40] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, so i rebooted with all other upgrades done, and those with errors/left undone
[08:41] <xjohnthomasx> there were a number of available upgrades even though i just upgraded to 11.10 a couple weeks ago..
[08:41] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: when on the live-system mount your / of your hdd, then use chroot on that and run "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[08:41] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, one sec.. how do i know which is the / of my hdd? i had followed the partitioning guide to make a few separate partitions..
[08:42] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: what partitons?
[08:42] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: extra /boot?
[08:42] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, keeps saying sdaX does not exist to mount
[08:42] <xjohnthomasx> I made separate /boot, /, /home, /usr, and /tmp, and swap partitions
[08:42] <martiert> Hi. I'm trying to compile an OpenGL program using VBO's in ubuntu. The program compiles fine on mac, but in ubuntu I get:  error: ‘glBindBuffer’ was not declared in this scope. Is there a way to update the opengl header in ubuntu? seems out of date
[08:42] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: please paste the output of "sudo fdisk -l"
[08:43] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: i dont know how to chroot with / and /boot as extra partiton
[08:43] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: both are needed for that task
[08:43] <auronandace> xjohnthomasx: replace X with the partition number. eg: sda7
[08:43] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: and also who is writing such a guide about having /tmp on an extra partiton?
[08:43] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, i got one of the parittions mounted.. what will the / have... the vmlinuz file?
[08:44] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: that is /boot
[08:44] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, i'll find the guide in a minute/afterwards
[08:44] <xjohnthomasx> ok..
[08:44] <xjohnthomasx> one sec..
[08:44] <cnz> so no one in here can help huh?
[08:45] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, i have now a bunch of vmlinuz-3.00.. and other kernel image files.. in this partition.. is that /?
[08:45] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, i think that first one was / it only had one vmlinuz file and most of the main folders of the typical directory tree
[08:46] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: that is /boot
[08:46] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: / e.g. contains /etc
[08:47] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx:  the fist think you should do is to beat the person who was writing that guide
[08:47] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, ok, got that one
[08:47] <cnz> wow what a fail ass help channel
[08:47] <iceroot> Corey: i dont see a question from you
[08:47] <iceroot> Corey: sorry wrong nick
[08:47] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, i'm thinking so.. yeah... but i have to fix this first.. and get into my systerm again
[08:47] <zizoo> iceroot: I followed the instructions there, got the verification code in my e-mail, and sent it to nickserv exactly as indicated, then verified as instructed, then still had no response when attempting to change channels.
[08:47] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, ok, i have / mounted
[08:47] <iceroot> zizoo: /join #freenode
[08:48] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, sudo dpkg --configure -a didn't do anything...
[08:48] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: you need chroot first
[08:48] <zizoo> iceroot: That worked.
[08:48] <xjohnthomasx> oh..  what's the command exactly?
[08:48] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: chroot . /path/where/you/mounted/your/slash
[08:48] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, even if it's /mnt?
[08:49] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: but because /boot is an extra partition i dont know how to fix that so that chroot will see it too
[08:49] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: yes
[08:49] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: ah
[08:49] <zizoo> You asked me to join ##c to ask questions about compiling C programs, however, attempting to do that gives not response. Joining #freenode works normally.
[08:49] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: you could chroot into your old / and from there mount /boot also into the system
[08:49] <iceroot> zizoo: ask the guys in #freenode about the registration
[08:50] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, the chroot command didn't work?
[08:50] <zizoo> Ah, ok. Thanks.
[08:50] <xjohnthomasx> i did sudo chroot . /mnt ... command not found
[08:50] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: is that a question?
[08:50] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: ubuntu live-cd?
[08:50] <xjohnthomasx> i had mounted sudo /dev/sdb5 /mnt
[08:50] <xjohnthomasx> sudo mount /dev/sdb5 /mnt
[08:50] <xjohnthomasx> xubuntu live cd
[08:50] <xjohnthomasx> but my system is ubuntu, yes
[08:51] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: what command is not found? sudo or chroot?
[08:51] <xjohnthomasx> idk... chroot isn't foudn it says
[08:51] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: post the exact command you used and the exact error-message
[08:51] <iceroot> !paste | xjohnthomasx
[08:52] <xjohnthomasx> i'm at "root@ubuntu:/# chroot /mnt "  ... command not found
[08:52] <xjohnthomasx> "bash: chroot: command not found"
[08:53] <DannyButterman> ikonia, iceroot : here is my output at shutdown "CIFS VFS : No response from cmd 50 mid 89 Cannot stat /home/user/share/myshare : host is down "... !! Phelp
[08:54] <jack1> hi
[08:55] <happygolucky> jack1: hello
[08:55] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, i closed the xterm, and opened a new one.. then did "sudo chroot /mnt"... "bash: groups: command not found"
[08:55] <prof> hi
[08:56] <jack1> how can i know what python version i'm having running lubuntu 3.0.0-14-generic
[08:57] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, you there?
[08:57] <skilz> jack1: python --version
[08:57] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: chroot . /mnt
[08:57] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: . is important
[08:58] <inashdeen> hi, is there an alternative to dreamweaver for ubuntu
[08:58] <jack1> skilz: great thanks. :)
[08:58] <skilz> jack1: FYI, that command works with any software.
[08:58] <iceroot> inashdeen: i dont know if "kompozer" fits your needs
[08:58] <iceroot> inashdeen: basic html-editor
[08:58] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, now it says "sudo chroot . /mnt"  "chroot: cannot run command /mnt" no such file or directory
[08:59] <inashdeen> iceroot : kompozer only do html. i need something more of css aider
[08:59] <iceroot> jack1: python --version
[08:59] <somsip> inashdeen: how do you want it to aid you?
[08:59] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: sudo chroot . /mnt/  if your real / is mounted into /mnt directly
[09:00] <xjohnthomasx> says same thing
[09:00] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: output of "mount"
[09:00] <inashdeen> something which have predicitive capabilites i suppose. i dont know how to actually explain it, let say when i type the letter b. it will show me all codes that start with that for instance
[09:01] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: better, output of "df -h"
[09:01] <iceroot> inashdeen: vim and emacs can do that, gedit can also do that
[09:01] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot,  "/dev/sdb5 on /mnt type ext3 (rw)"   .... is the / partition
[09:01] <somsip> inashdeen: it may be heavy for your needs, but maybe an ide like Netbeans. It does auto complete for CSS. Plenty of others do too
[09:01] <inashdeen> somsip : will look into netbeans then :)
[09:02] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, there's a bunch of other lines for the live usb, of course, but i didn't type them out here.. (I'm on a separte laptop)
[09:02] <inashdeen> iceroot : how to set gedit for predictive codes
[09:02] <iceroot> inashdeen: its a plugin
[09:02] <guest-drZp5U> hello. i just used #mount -o remount,rw/ and nano from recovery mode to remove my administrative password hash. I was read to believe this would allow me to login as root with no password. is anyone familiar with this and/or authentication token modification issues?
[09:02] <somsip> inashdeen: http://edigitales.org/changing-gedit-become-web-developer-ide-ubuntu/ for gedit
[09:03] <somsip> inashdeen: summary of IDE/editors with this feature http://smashingweb.ge6.org/php-ides-in-linux-for-web-programming-fedora-and-ubuntu/
[09:03] <inashdeen> thanks everyone :)
[09:03] <Scarra3> Sup everyone
[09:03] <Scarra3> I need some help with ubuntu 11.10
[09:03] <inashdeen> sorry gusy, but is there a freenode channel for css? need to move there
[09:03] <guest-drZp5U> i altered shadow witih nano btw
[09:04] <Yancho> sudo ifdown wlan0 -v && sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid 'OpenWrt_WEP' key s:KeyHERE && sudo ifup wlan0 -v <- how can I automate this command to be run every bootup please?
[09:04] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: sudo chroot /mnt/ /bin/bash -i
[09:04] <Ibis> Will gnome eventually get better and change how icons on desktops can be arranged?
[09:04] <iceroot> guest-drZp5U: badest idea you can do on GNU/Linux systems
[09:04] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, bash: groups: command not found
[09:04] <guest-drZp5U> sounds good...
[09:05] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: please post the extact commands
[09:05] <iceroot> guest-drZp5U: never ever in your hole live edit /etc/shadow directly
[09:05] <guest-drZp5U> it was the only option i was left with
[09:05] <iceroot> guest-drZp5U: no
[09:05] <guest-drZp5U> all other routes didn't apply to me with the authentication modification error i was getting
[09:06] <xjohnthomasx> i typed it exactly how you did.. tried it at root prompt of terminal
[09:06] <iceroot> guest-drZp5U: chroot and passwd
[09:06] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: exact messages please
[09:06] <guest-drZp5U> is that going to recovery mode, typing passwd USER, then entering a new password?
[09:06] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, bash: groups: command not found
[09:06] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: sudo chroot /mnt
[09:07] <xjohnthomasx> bash: sudo command not found
[09:07] <xjohnthomasx> and then bash: chroot: command not found
[09:07] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: live-cd and installed system are the same version?
[09:08] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, i don't think so. live cd is xubuntu... installed is ubuntu 11.10.
[09:08] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: xubuntu also 11.10?
[09:08] <Scarra3> My desktops integrated graphics card is an NVIDIA GeForce 9100 and the one I have in the PCI port is an NVIDIA GeForce 210 HD.  I know I have to disable the integrated one but there is no setting to disable it in the bios.  The only reason I need to is because when I boot ubuntu the startup screen the top part on my monitor starts getting all these colors and I know my graphics card and monitor are not failing becuase I do not have an
[09:08] <xjohnthomasx> no. xubuntu is 10.04
[09:08] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: i am asking because you are maybe already in the chroot
[09:08] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: great
[09:09] <VictorCL> I have some problems, I have many problemas opening files , I sometimes get "Unable to locate file" or "The location is not a folder" or "Can't open file" ... and I can see the file and I have to use other methods to open the file
[09:09] <VictorCL> is this normal?
[09:09] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: output of "lsb_release -a"
[09:09] <xjohnthomasx> lsb release command not found
[09:09] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: _
[09:09] <xjohnthomasx> i'm on xubuntu 10.04 linux2.6.32-28-generic
[09:09] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: as is said please only use the exact messages
[09:09] <xjohnthomasx> bash: lsb_release: command not found
[09:10] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: sounds like you are already in the (broken) system with chroot
[09:10] <xjohnthomasx> ok... so... I need to mount the /usr partition so that I can use these commands??? how do i do that?
[09:10] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: live-cd and installed system are both the same architecture?
[09:10] <xjohnthomasx> architecture meaning what?
[09:10] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: mad64, i386
[09:10] <iceroot> amd64
[09:10] <xjohnthomasx> i386 yes
[09:11] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: yes, so the other partitions are missing
[09:11] <bubbles|> when i create a ssh tunnel does the tunnel-start adress have to be a real one? or can i just pick any adress from a private range?
[09:11] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: and with them the commands
[09:11] <xjohnthomasx> i'm listening.. yes..
[09:11] <iceroot> bubbles|: an adress you can reach
[09:11] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: as is said, beat the person from the partiton-guide
[09:11] <bubbles|> hm.. what do i pick then?
[09:12] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, i don't kno who they were/are.... and that won't fix my system... there has to be a way to fix this... the box was working fine in 11.10 1hour ago before i did apt-get upgrade
[09:12] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: you need sudo but you dont have /usr/
[09:12] <bubbles|> 127.0.0.2?
[09:12] <xjohnthomasx> ok... so how do I get my usr partition and commands from it? they're on a different partition...
[09:12] <guest-drZp5U> could someone with authentication token modification experience pm me? it looks like iceroots pretty busy
[09:12] <iceroot> bubbles|: that is loopback-device
[09:12] <bobalazs> iceroot can't you copy those commands beforehand somewhere to use them, or thats not how it works?
[09:13] <iceroot> bobalazs: maybe
[09:13] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: i would try this
[09:13] <xjohnthomasx> i have to chroot with an option of designating the usr partition?
[09:13] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: exit the chroot system, mount / on /mnt/ mount your real /usr on /mnt/usr
[09:14] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: your real /boot on /mnt/boot
[09:14] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: then chroot into the system again
[09:14] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: and run "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[09:14] <sleon> hi
[09:15] <sleon> after upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 wine 3d application stopped working, i get now all the time seg fault on start
[09:15] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: to exit the chroot just type "exit"
[09:15] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, i mounted the usr on /mnt/usr
[09:15] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: /boot also please
[09:15] <xjohnthomasx> how do I chroot in to that system again?
[09:16] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: sudo chroot /mnt
[09:16] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, how will i know which one is boot
[09:16] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: i guess by trying :)
[09:16] <Scarra3> Any ideas?
[09:16] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: normally it should be /dev/sdb1
[09:16] <parapan> hello fellows > does anyone know if there is a support channel for evolution e-mail ???
[09:16] <VictorCL> how can I open files trhough the shell? how do I know the name of the program to use ?
[09:16] <iceroot> parapan: #gnome on irc.gimp.net
[09:17] <iceroot> VictorCL: depending on the filetype
[09:17] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, hold on. i will opne gparted so that i can see what the tags are
[09:17] <iceroot> VictorCL: "file filename" will tell you what type of file it is
[09:17] <VictorCL> I have this .mdb files  and I downloaded this program called "MDB viewer"
[09:17] <VictorCL> how do I open a .mdb files with MDB viewer in the shell?
[09:17] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: or just try the partitons and if wrong umount it
[09:17] <iceroot> VictorCL: mdbviewer filename.mdb
[09:18] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, ok i have root, boot, and usr mounted on the same /mnt
[09:18] <iceroot> VictorCL: replace mdbviewer with the name of the program
[09:18] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: great
[09:18] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: now chroot into the system again
[09:18] <VictorCL> the exact name?
[09:18] <xjohnthomasx> with what comand
[09:18] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, be specific
[09:18] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: sudo chroot /mnt
[09:18] <thomassen> Hi, How can I run shell script on command line without going to that particular folder?
[09:18] <xjohnthomasx> no period?
[09:18] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, no period?
[09:18] <iceroot> thomassen: you mean a selfwritten shellscript?
[09:19] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: no just sudo chroot /mnt  should be fine
[09:19] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, corrrect!!
[09:19] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, no errors!
[09:19] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, now what?
[09:19] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[09:19] <toshiba> For some reason I cannot connect to irc.spotchat.org for help with linux mint. Since the both operating systems are ubuntu based, is it possible to get help in here?
[09:19] <xjohnthomasx> i'm at "root@ubuntu... ok"...
[09:19] <VictorCL> "MDB viewer" perfecto.mdb <-- does nothing
[09:19] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: that should finish the broken upgrade
[09:20] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, unable to access dpkg status... unable to resolve host
[09:20] <iceroot> thomassen: no, mint is not supported here
[09:20] <thomassen> iceroot, No I have downloaded the script. Its actually smartgit. It contains a shell script to run the software. I dont want to go to the downloaded folder and run ./smartgit.sh
[09:20] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, i need home mounted too?
[09:20] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: ah, dpkg is using /var
[09:20] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: home is not needed but var
[09:20] <almoxarife> toshiba: you won't get help that way, I got an idea, count to hundred, then ask your question again, don't mention mint
[09:20] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: exit chroot mount /var also on /mnt/var then chroot again
[09:20] <iceroot> almoxarife: we dont like that here
[09:21] <almoxarife> iceroot: don't like?
[09:21] <iceroot> thomassen: you can create ~/bin  put it there and then you can use smartgit.sh
[09:21] <iceroot> thomassen: without the path
[09:21] <iceroot> thomassen: make it also executable with chmod +x filename
[09:21] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, it's running dpkg!!!!!
[09:21] <toshiba> almoxarife: that wont help to much, because as soon as I'm asked what I'm running they'll know
[09:21] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: great
[09:22] <xjohnthomasx> i hope this works.. [fingers crossed... ready with happy dance]
[09:22] <iceroot> almoxarife: this is no mint support and we dont like it when someone is asking mint questions here
[09:22] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, gahhhh... errors were encountered again same thing... processing "linux-image-3.0...." linux image generic pae... linux-generic-pae
[09:22] <iceroot> almoxarife: not because we dont like mint but because there are difference and that males support hart
[09:22] <xjohnthomasx> says "dependency problems.."
[09:23] <xjohnthomasx> maybe is hould just do sudo apt-get upgrade instead of dist-upgrade?
[09:23] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: you installed something by hand?
[09:23] <xjohnthomasx> no
[09:23] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: no dist-upgrade is what you want
[09:23] <xjohnthomasx> beofre this mess.. i was just doing "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[09:23] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: you said you did a release-upgrade
[09:23] <xjohnthomasx> and then i said yes, and let it do its thing, and then it got to the end, said there were a few errors.. and i just told it to reboot
[09:23] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: from 11.04 to 11.10 if i am correct
[09:24] <xjohnthomasx> no, i had a few weeks ago.. i was solidly in 11.10 and fine, and i just did a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to upgrade whatever needed it tonight
[09:24] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: ok
[09:24] <almoxarife> iceroot: is it the basics in terminal help support center? cause I sure see a lot of that? linux terminal support, I would classify that as other than ubuntu too
[09:24] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: i need the complete output of "dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii | grep -v ^rc"
[09:24] <parapan> iceroot: thanks; evolution email client is integrated part of gnome ???
[09:25] <toshiba> iceroot, sorry for the intrusion, but I cannot connect to the spotchat server for some reason, and I'm really stuck. I just figured since it's all part of the Linux community, I could have just got some help. But thank you anyway
[09:25] <iceroot> parapan: its from the gnome-project
[09:25] <Scott_S> @toshiba: For general linux support, join and register your nick at ##linux
[09:25] <pfifo> toshiba, try mint's mailing list or wait for spotchar to get fixed
[09:25] <Scott_S> @toshiba: This channel is for Ubuntu support only. This does not include variants such as Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Linux Mint, etc.
[09:26] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, grep.. gnu grep 2.9.... license gplv3+.... no real output from that
[09:26] <iceroot> almoxarife: there are differences in mint and ubuntu. i dont know all differences and i dont want to give support on mint if there is something different
[09:26] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, wait.. I used upper V instead of v
[09:26] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: i need every line it will output
[09:26] <xjohnthomasx> one sec
[09:26] <xjohnthomasx> will paste
[09:26] <parapan> iceroot: does gimp.net has an web irc interface ? I cannot use a stand alone client couse the irc ports are blocked
[09:26] <toshiba> Scott_S: is ##linux on this network
[09:26] <iceroot> parapan: i dont know
[09:26] <thomassen> iceroot: I have created the bin in my home like you mentioned made a symbolic link to the download smartgit.sh file. But its not working. I have given permission to 777
[09:26] <parapan> iceroot: Ok thanks anyway
[09:26] <iceroot> thomassen: never use 777
[09:26] <Scott_S> @Toshiba: Correct. You must register your nick, however, before you can speak in that channel.
[09:27] <iceroot> thomassen: what is the output of "echo $PATH"
[09:27] <toshiba> Scott_S: Thank you
[09:27] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, paste.ubuntu.com/771999/
[09:27] <thomassen> iceroot:   smartgit: command not found
[09:27] <iceroot> thomassen: smartgit.sh you mentioned
[09:28] <thomassen> iceroot: $path gives /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[09:28] <iceroot> thomassen: hm i thought ~/bin is always in PATH too
[09:28] <thomassen> iceroot: so i put the link in /usr/local/sbin?
[09:28] <thomassen> iceroot: :-D .. I am naive, please excuse
[09:28] <iceroot> thomassen: /usr/local/bin or any other dir from that or at ~/bin to PATH
[09:29] <iceroot> add
[09:29] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: great :) the important packages are messed up
[09:29] <xjohnthomasx> lol
[09:29] <xjohnthomasx> figures
[09:30] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: output of "sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-pae"
[09:30] <somsip> Java users will be asking about this so I don't believe this is OT http://bit.ly/vb1QKZ
[09:30] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: and that is 11.10?
[09:31] <iceroot> !info linux-image oneric
[09:31] <iceroot> !info linux-image oneiric
[09:31] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, paste.ubuntu.com/772001/
[09:31] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: what? where to you get 3.0.0.15?
[09:31] <thomassen> iceroot: it worked!! Thank you  :-)
[09:32] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, i have no idea... i just let it all do its thing... but if you can help me resolve/fix this to be consistent and updated again, that will be amazing
[09:32] <iceroot> !info linux-image-generic-pae oneiric
[09:32] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: apt-cache policy linux-image-generic-pae
[09:32] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: output of that
[09:33] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, paste.ubuntu.com/772004/
[09:33] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: proposed....
[09:33] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: you enabled the dev-repository
[09:34] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[09:35] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, 772007
[09:35] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: that is not the output
[09:35] <xjohnthomasx> (in paste ubuntu)
[09:35] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: real links (starting with http)
[09:35] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, http://paste.ubuntu.com/772007/
[09:36] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-proposed restricted main multiverse universe
[09:36] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: remove that line
[09:36] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-backports restricted main multiverse universe  that too if you dont need it
[09:37] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: after that run "sudo apt-get update"
[09:37] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, done. saved
[09:37] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: sudo apt-get remove --purge linux-image-generic-ape
[09:37] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: sudo apt-get remove --purge linux-image-generic-pae
[09:38] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: i need the complete output of "dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii | grep -v ^rc"
[09:38] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, update didn't work
[09:38] <iceroot> !work | xjohnthomasx
[09:38] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: lets stop guessing for me
[09:38] <pfifo> whats purging a meta going todo?
[09:38] <iceroot> pfifo: a meta from the wrong repo
[09:39] <iceroot> pfifo: but yes i forgot something
[09:39] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: sudo apt-get autoremove
[09:39] <bodoh> hallo list .. how to install 'Language SUpport'? It's missing from my system
[09:39] <bodoh> 11.10
[09:39] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, paste.ubuntu.com/772008
[09:39] <bodoh> oh . this is gnome-shell
[09:39] <cousin_luigi> Hello.
[09:39] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: ah great, no network on chroot
[09:40] <bodoh> so .. my gnome-shell misses the 'Language Support' thing .. how to install it>
[09:40] <cousin_luigi> Is there a mail notifier for Unity à la firetray?
[09:40] <bodoh> what's the app name?
[09:40] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: you are using dhcp on your network?
[09:40] <bubbles|> if i open a ssh tunnel from A:1:B:2 will programms trying to connect to B:2 (on machine B) be affected as well?
[09:40] <xjohnthomasx> yes
[09:40] <xjohnthomasx> i'm connected on the liveusb desktop
[09:40] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, all standard wireless connection
[09:40] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: wireless....
[09:41] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: i dont know how to connect to wireless on the cli
[09:41] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, i just have to connect to the already active connection in the live session?
[09:41] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, nat share or something?
[09:41] <Scott_S> iceroot: Use of iwconfig is for command-line wlan configs. One moment to find a general tutorial
[09:41] <xjohnthomasx> iwconfig yes, i know how to use that
[09:42] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: great, use iwconfig on the chrooted system to get a connection
[09:42] <xjohnthomasx> but it says it's already connected... but it's not...
[09:42] <aar> While watching a video yesterday my system (Kubuntu 10.04 AMD64)  froze, when I rebooted there was no signal to the monitor. This morning things seem to be back to normal. What might have caused this and what files / logs can I check to investigate?
[09:42] <VictorCL> the other day I found in ubuntu a place to download software .. but it wastn ubuntu software download ... it was something els that has much more stuff
[09:42] <VictorCL> but can't find it anymore
[09:42] <pfifo> aar an overheated videocard
[09:42] <Scott_S> xjohnthomasx: If you require assistance with iwconfig setups, I can attempt to provide assistance.
[09:43] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, Scott_S, it's more complicated than that
[09:43] <xjohnthomasx> I'm in a chrooted system.. and I need to get access to the live session's wireless connection
[09:43] <aar> pfifo, is there any log in the system that would flag that up?
[09:43] <almoxarife> xjohnthomasx: those sites don't in fact exist, anyone else were to try they would also get 404's
[09:44] <Yancho> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo <- anyone can please guide me to set this in ubuntu 11.10? i want the part where the wifi is set automatically in /etc/network/interfaces
[09:44] <xjohnthomasx> hrm?
[09:44] <xjohnthomasx> almoxarife, what do you mean
[09:44] <pfifo> xjohnthomasx, from the host run `sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/etc/resolv.conf`
[09:44] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: can you do "ping 8.8.8.8"
[09:44] <almoxarife> xjohnthomasx: your connection is not the issue
[09:45] <Scott_S> Yancho: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConfigurationCommandLine/Automatic#Configure_your_wireless_interface
[09:45] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, ping successful. 0 loss.
[09:45] <pfifo> aar, it probably didnt get a chance to write any logs since it froze, and if it did I would not know which one to look in
[09:45] <xjohnthomasx> almoxarife, i know the connection is not issue. it identifies properly.
[09:45] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: ok, put your nameserver on /etc/resolv.conf
[09:45] <aar> pfifo, ok
[09:45] <xjohnthomasx> nameserver?
[09:45] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: normally the adress of your router
[09:45] <HDroid> Hi... all of a sudden some of my fonts started to look very ugly: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/100/fontsc.png/ all the purple words are ugly (the rest is ok, I deliberately turned off anti-aliasing). I've tried fc-cache -rv but that didn't do anything. Does anyone see what's going on?
[09:45] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: nameserver 192.168.0.1
[09:45] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: replace the ip with your needs
[09:45] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, what line do I add in /resolv.conf
[09:46] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: /etc/resolv.conf
[09:46] <aragorn5> hi
[09:46] <xjohnthomasx> bam!
[09:46] <xjohnthomasx> update successful
[09:46] <xjohnthomasx> fetched all
[09:46] <Yancho> Scott_S, right so i do pre-up and then in that .sh i write my commands?
[09:46] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: sudo apt-get remove linux-image-generic-pae && sudo apt-get autoremove
[09:47] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: i need the complete output of "dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii | grep -v ^rc"
[09:47] <Scott_S> Yancho: Read lower than that and it will give you the full setup guide.
[09:47] <aragorn5> i am a question: how do you make folders with many images load the thumbnails a bit faster? it takes ages
[09:47] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: after that "apt-cache policy linux-image-generic-pae"
[09:47] <lobo> Hi there
[09:48] <Guest90732> there's some one can help me pls?
[09:48] <iceroot> !ask | Guest90732
[09:48] <almoxarife> aragorn5: you probably won't get it to go much faster, lots of images to generate, take time, split the images into smaller chuncks
[09:48] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, the remove commands returned errors
[09:49] <xjohnthomasx> will paste
[09:49] <psychoticmeow> Hi guys
[09:49] <Yancho> Scott_S, the full wpa.sh is for wpa_supplicant but
[09:49] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, paste.ubuntu.com/772014/
[09:50] <Guest90732> my ubuntu 11.10 can't find my second PCI LAN CARD, and I want to fix it to share my DSL modem connection in my home LAN
[09:50] <Scott_S> Yancho: You understand how to set up WEP connections via command-line, correct? Simply replace the commands with the WEP equivalents.
[09:50] <psychoticmeow> When I play sounds in Totem or Banshee, no sound comes out. When I test my output device in System Settings, it works fine.
[09:50] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: no /proc on chroot :(
[09:50] <Yancho> ok cool Scott_S will do .. might ask u to double check please
[09:50] <pfifo> xjohnthomasx, you chroot enviroment isnt setup correctly
[09:51] <Scott_S> Yancho: That's fine, simply paste the script when you're finished on http:://www.pastebin.com and send me the link after.
[09:51] <Sicelo> hi everyone. is this channel logged?
[09:51] <iceroot> !logs | Sicelo
[09:51] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: and /dev is missing too
[09:51] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: i am not sure how to build /dev and /proc on chroot
[09:52] <Sicelo> thanks iceroot
[09:52] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, meaning... ? those are folders in /  shouldn't they be there already
[09:52] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: they are build from the kernel
[09:52] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: they are not normal partitions
[09:52] <pfifo> xjohnthomasx, I can help you get into a chroot, but im not sure what iceroot is helping you with
[09:53] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, explain to pfifo?
[09:53] <iceroot> pfifo: he has a broken kernel-setup because he is using proposed repos
[09:53] <xjohnthomasx> i didn't intend to use broken proposed upgrades
[09:53] <iceroot> pfifo: so i guided him nto chroot, the proposed repo is removed, now the 3.0.015 kernel should be removed and replaced with the 3.0.014 kernel from the main-repo
[09:53] <xjohnthomasx> : - / i just followed the blog instructions to get the most current upgrades
[09:53] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: beat the persons from the blog
[09:54] <pfifo> xjohnthomasx, to start exit the chroot `exit`
[09:54] <xjohnthomasx> pfifo, done
[09:54] <iceroot> pfifo: so the idea was to apt-get remove the kernels and install the kernels from the repos, also see http://paste.ubuntu.com/771999/
[09:54] <pfifo> xjohnthomasx, then `sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev`
[09:55] <iceroot> pfifo: also he has /boot /usr/ / on seperate partions which we are mount to /mnt
[09:55] <xjohnthomasx> pfifo, ok
[09:55] <pfifo> xjohnthomasx, `sudo chroot /mnt`
[09:55] <Yancho> Scott_S, : http://pastebin.com/H3i2RyLi
[09:55] <xjohnthomasx> pfifo, that's ok even though the current live session is xubuntu 10.04 and the chrooted system will be ubuntu 11.10?
[09:55] <xjohnthomasx> to bind /dev to /mnt dev i mean?
[09:56] <pfifo> xjohnthomasx, `mount -t proc none /proc` `mount -t sysfs none /sys` `mount -t devpts none /dev/pts`
[09:56] <pfifo> xjohnthomasx, yes version and even distro differences dont matter
[09:56] <xjohnthomasx> pfifo, done
[09:56] <xjohnthomasx> now i should try the update and remove commands again?
[09:57] <almoxarife> psychoticmeow: can you get sound from the web browser?
 aragorn5: you probably won't get it to go much faster, lots of images to generate, take time, split the images into smaller chuncks
[09:57] <pfifo> xjohnthomasx, `export LC_ALL=c``export HOME=/root`
[09:57] <Scott_S> Yancho: That appears to be correct.
[09:57] <pfifo> xjohnthomasx, sorry `export LC_ALL=C``export HOME=/root` (capital C)
[09:58] <xjohnthomasx> pfifo, first xport gave error.... bash: warning: setlocale... cannot change locale c.. no such file..
[09:58] <alishah> hi, how can i know the version of a package ?  for example when i do 'apt-get install mercurial' how can i know what version am gonna be installing?
[09:58] <aragorn5> i thought there is a DB file for it, or the thumbs are stored in the EXIF
[09:58] <DreadKnight> anyone willing to help out with getting a package in launchpad and making ubuntu binaries for it? :D
[09:58] <xjohnthomasx> ok C worked
[09:58] <xjohnthomasx> pfifo, done both
[09:59] <pfifo> xjohnthomasx, ok your all set now, i cant help you with the kernel, but maybe iceroot can finish, i can help you tear down the chroot later if you need
[09:59] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, update .. done
[09:59] <xjohnthomasx> now remove?
[09:59] <Yancho> Scott_s /etc/init.d/wep.sh: 2: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[09:59] <Yancho> line 25 :s
[09:59] <Yancho> ow right next to start no (
[10:01] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: sudo apt-get remove linux-image-generic-pae && sudo apt-get autoremove
[10:01] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, no space left on boot partition??
[10:01] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: :(
[10:01] <xjohnthomasx> that's probably why everything was failing!
[10:01] <xjohnthomasx> i must have old unseen kernel images or something there?
[10:01] <guest-7IJuq7> okay. so i've gotten some advice and followed some walkthroughs around the internet to restore my password, but now my shadow file is messed, my screen is out of resolution, aaaaaand i'm still unable to log in.
[10:01] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: ls -all /boot
[10:02] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: and "df -h"
[10:02] <iceroot> pfifo: thanks for the help
[10:02] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, paste.ubuntu.com/772023
[10:02] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: df -h
[10:02] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, paste.ubuntu.com/772024
[10:03] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: where is /boot?
[10:03] <oCean> guest-7IJuq7: why is your shadow file messed up. All you need to do is boot in rescue mode and set a password: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[10:03] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: you said it is an extra partition
[10:03] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: but you have not mounted it to /mnt/boot
[10:04] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, it said it's already mounted to mnt/boot
[10:05] <pfifo> xjohnthomasx, you need to run iceroot's command from the host, the chroot wont have the correct info
[10:05] <iceroot> pfifo: no
[10:05] <iceroot> pfifo: i need the info from chroot
[10:06] <Phoenix87> i have compiled the sources of gedit 2 on ocelot but menu and tool bars are missing
[10:06] <iceroot> pfifo: because i want to work on the /boot from chroot
[10:06] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, how can i delete all old unseen kernels in the boot partition
[10:06] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: best with apt-get...
[10:06] <xjohnthomasx> but they're not installed
[10:07] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, what command?
[10:07] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: output of "dpkg -l linux-image\* | grep ^ii"
[10:07] <pfifo> iceroot, right but the chroot isnt aware of the mount points and such, xjohnthomasx just df -h from the host and pastebin... youll see the difference
[10:07] <iceroot> pfifo: we mounted /boot/ to /mnt/boot and then chroot into /mnt  shouldnt the chroot then know /mnt/boot as /boot?
[10:08] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, paste.ubuntu.com/772029
[10:08] <iceroot> pfifo: ah i get the error
[10:08] <iceroot> pfifo: there is /boot but chroot does not know that is is an extra partition
[10:08] <xjohnthomasx> pfifo, paste.ubuntu.com/772030
[10:09] <iceroot> pfifo: because of that chroot can use sudo which is in /mnt/usr but its not mounted as "/usr/
[10:09] <pfifo> iceroot, no, its cause /etc/mtab of the host and chroot differ
[10:09] <iceroot> pfifo: ok
[10:09] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, is there a command to simply delete all previous linux images prior to 3.0?
[10:10] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: if i get it all correct you can just reboot the system, bring up the grub-menu, choose 2.6.38 boot the real system and fix the issues from there
[10:10] <Phoenix87> can i run an application into a fake environment, like say dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot ?
[10:10] <llutz> xjohnthomasx: using aptitude: sudo aptitude purge '~nlinux-image-2.6'
[10:10] <iceroot> llutz: aptitude dont know /boot in the chroot
[10:11] <llutz> iceroot: then chrooting is made wrong
[10:11] <iceroot> llutz: / and /boot /usr/ /var are all extra partitions
[10:11] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, linux image 2.6 doens't show in the grub menu.. only 3.0 since 11.10 upgrade a few weeks back
[10:12] <llutz> iceroot: they all have to be mounted in the chroot
[10:12] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: there is "run previosly linux versions which will open a new menu"
[10:12] <xjohnthomasx> ohhhhhh that's a selection!
[10:12] <xjohnthomasx> i thought it was just a blank with nothing to select
[10:12] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: try it please
[10:12] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: much easier then the chroot hack
[10:12] <xjohnthomasx> seriously
[10:12] <xjohnthomasx> doing now
[10:12] <xjohnthomasx> holy c... that could have been so much easier.. if that works
[10:13] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: easy is boring
[10:13] <xjohnthomasx> lol
[10:13] <xjohnthomasx> booting 11.10 with linux 3.0... 14
[10:14] <xjohnthomasx> checking drives now.. this hopefully should work
[10:14] <xjohnthomasx> recovering/cleaning from all the mounting
[10:14] <xjohnthomasx> so far so good, though, no kernel panic.. ha
[10:14] <almoxarife> xjohnthomasx: spare the rest of us the blow by blow, thanks
[10:15] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, and we're IN!!
[10:15] <xjohnthomasx> LOL
[10:15] <bobalazs> so you guys eventually got the problem fixed?
[10:15] <xjohnthomasx> almoxarife, sorry
[10:15] <xjohnthomasx> almoxarife, what time is it where you are
[10:15] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: i need the complete output of "dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii | grep -v ^rc"
[10:16] <xjohnthomasx> k, one sec
[10:16] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: we still have to kill the broken kernels
[10:17] <xjohnthomasx> yeah
[10:17] <xjohnthomasx> i'm removing 3.0 15 now
[10:17] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: and the broken metapackages
[10:17] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: which are from the proposed repos
[10:17] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: remove everything my command is showing
[10:17] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, shouldn't the meta package self-repair when i disable the proposed repo?
[10:17] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: no
[10:17] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: it has a higher version then the one from the main-repo
[10:18] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, ok... what is the command to enter?
[10:18] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: sudo apt-get remove --purge packagename
[10:18] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, but once i disable the proposed, won't the update not even then receive the list of its availability?
[10:18] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: the metapackage is still pointin on 3.0.0.15
[10:19] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: after that "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[10:19] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: dont reboot the system!!! and run "sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-pae"
[10:19] <iceroot> that should pull 3.0.0.14-foobar-pae
[10:20] <iceroot> after that, reboot the system and promise us to never use the dev-repo again if you dont know what you are doing
[10:20] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, lol... if i'd known, i wouldn't have used it. i just followed the blog post!
[10:20] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: ah i forgot
[10:20] <bobalazs> and kill the blog writer while you're at it
[10:20] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: beat the blogger!!!
[10:21] <pfifo> my dad wrote that blog
[10:22] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: beat the blogger and give pfifo a beer
[10:24] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, i'd get all three of you eers
[10:24] <xjohnthomasx> beers
[10:25] <pfifo> id prefer some bacon
[10:25] <iceroot> bacon-beer
[10:26] <xjohnthomasx> pfifo, bacon is awesome
[10:26] <om26er> !test
[10:26] <xjohnthomasx> pfifo, why would you prefer bacon
[10:26] <xjohnthomasx> pfifo, is there a way to cleanly delete all the old vmlinuz and intrd img and other files taking up sapce in /boot?
[10:27] <Ailander> ciao!
[10:27] <Ailander> !list
[10:27] <xeroo> hello
[10:27] <pfifo> xjohnthomasx, thats what the --purge swithc does
[10:28] <iceroot> pfifo: he means --purge everything lower then 3.0.0.14
[10:28] <iceroot> some regex-foo
[10:28] <xeroo> can someone help me out with obtaining the mac adress of my target access point for aircrack?
[10:29] <bazhang> xeroo, #aircrack-ng
[10:29] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: nmap router, arping, arp
[10:29] <iceroot> xjohnthomasx: wrong nick
[10:29] <iceroot> xeroo: nmap router, arping, arp
[10:29] <rly> If I click on an application, it is not opened above all the other windows, but instead stays minimized. Where is that configuration option? Window manager is metacity.
[10:29] <xeroo> iceroot how?
[10:29] <oliver_> test
[10:29] <rly> Desktop environment is Gnome 2.*.
[10:29] <iceroot> xeroo: i showed you 3 commands
[10:29] <oliver_> exit
[10:30] <llutz> xeroo: http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=tutorial
[10:30] <xeroo> kk
[10:30] <xeroo> thanx
[10:30] <llutz> hackers 1st job: learn to read
[10:30] <Phoenix87> nautilus toolbar is missing a lot of buttons
[10:30] <Phoenix87> is this normal?
[10:31] <iceroot> llutz: first job is to understand what "hacking" means
[10:31] <iceroot> llutz: :)
[10:31] <rly> llutz: aircrack-ng isn't really meant for one button 'hacking'.
[10:31] <Phoenix87> how can i change the view to list in nautilus?
[10:31] <llutz> rly: tell it xeroo
[10:31] <rly> With a week of work it could be made to require zero 'configuration'.
[10:31] <rly> I think they require zero configuration to scare lusers.
[10:32] <rly> Perhaps a good thing.
[10:32] <rly> Best thing would be for everyone to replace their routers, etc.
[10:32] <oCean> let's move away from the "hacking" discussion, ok?
[10:32] <christoffer> How do I open sudoers file with vim? (sudo visudo opens it with nano) ...I've tried "export EDITOR=vim" in my .bashrc file. I'm running Ubuntu server 11.10
[10:32] <llutz> christoffer: EDITOR=vim sudo visudo
[10:32] <SunTsu> christoffer: define $EDITOR or $VISUAL
[10:33] <rly> The easier a hack is done, the more people will see a reason to replace their insecure setup.
[10:33] <xeroo> on slackware atm.....
[10:33] <oCean> rly: please drop the discussion
[10:33] <iceroot> xeroo: this is not #slackware
[10:33] <xeroo> iceroot i know
[10:33] <bazhang> xeroo, then ask for support in the slackware channel or #aircrack-ng
[10:34] <xeroo> nah
[10:34] <rly> oCean: who are you to interfere in this annoying way? Also, learn to read the context. The discussion was already over.
[10:34] <pfifo> lol
[10:34] <bazhang> rly, lets move it on
[10:34] <xeroo> i see what you did there xD
[10:34] <xjohnthomasx> iceroot, in gparted, how do i unmount any volume higher than X, when in a logical partition and in the live usb session? it doesn't seem to be mounted already, but it won't let me delete/resize/unmount either?
[10:34] <simion314> hi, is Ctrl+Alt+Numpad -/+ some shortcuts in  X11? I can't find them, i want to disable them
[10:34] <xeroo> ok now to set up SSH root on ubuntu?
[10:35] <bazhang> !ssh > xeroo
[10:35] <llutz> xeroo: sudo apt-get install ssh && man sshd_config
[10:35] <iceroot> !root | xeroo
[10:35] <luans> lol wth
[10:35] <xeroo> i dont want sudo su!!!!
[10:35] <iceroot> xeroo: of course you dont want sudo su
[10:35] <iceroot> xeroo: because its the wrong way
[10:36] <iceroot> xeroo: and setting your env wrong
[10:36] <llutz> xeroo: sudo -i
[10:36] <xeroo> i want to set up a SSH root VPN
[10:36] <iceroot> what?
[10:36] <xeroo> -_-
[10:36] <xeroo> on my ubuntu
[10:36] <llutz> xeroo: http://www.math.hmc.edu/computing/security/ssh/vpn/
[10:37] <xeroo> ty
[10:37] <xeroo> but im not on a mac
[10:37] <xeroo> i have one though
[10:38] <RaTTuS|BIG> xeroo exactly what do you want to do and wy
[10:38] <llutz> xeroo: sry your questions sounded mac-like,  http://bodhizazen.net/Tutorials/VPN-Over-SSH
[10:39] <xeroo> RaTTuS|BIG: it is a seceret.
[10:39] <xeroo> nah not really xD
[10:39] <xeroo> i want to make my box a VPN
[10:39] <xeroo> so people can connect
[10:39] <christoffer> llutz, SunTsu I can "echo $EDITOR" and the printout is "vim" but nano is still the editor that opens up the sudoers file
[10:39] <SunTsu> xeroo: use openvpn instead
[10:40] <RaTTuS|BIG> you dont need to do it at a root level [in fact you dint want to]
[10:40] <xeroo> SunTsu: no i want to make my own
[10:40] <SunTsu> christoffer: is $VISUAL set?
[10:40] <xeroo> so i can learn
[10:40] <christoffer> SunTsu, nope..I will try that one
[10:40] <SunTsu> xeroo: then, learn, then, why are you asking questions here?
[10:40] <christoffer> is that a new variable? I can't remember I have set that one before
[10:40] <llutz> xeroo: if you want to learn, learn to search for documentation first (searchsites like google are very helpful)
[10:40] <xeroo> meh, tbh im bored
[10:41] <llutz> boring
[10:41] <xeroo> oooo i know abhinav isngh :D
[10:41] <SunTsu> christoffer: nope, both are valid in a lot of programs, I never know which one takes precedence
[10:41] <bazhang> !ot | zeroedout
[10:41] <xeroo> he is a ethical hacker
[10:41] <pfifo> christoffer, try `export` and see what is set
[10:42] <bazhang> whoops
[10:42] <bazhang> sorry zeroedout
[10:42] <bazhang> xeroo, lets move this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:42] <xeroo> but its related to VPN?
[10:42] <xeroo> i mean ubuntu?
[10:42] <xjohnthomasx> thanks fora ll your help people! i am now tnk1 just fyi.. logging off
[10:42] <Tzunamii> env|grep -i visual
[10:42] <christoffer> SunTsu, ok.
[10:42] <khameis> السلام عليكم
[10:43] <khameis> ممكن عرب
[10:43] <christoffer> Both are set now without success
[10:43] <khameis> نستفيد من خبرتكم
[10:43] <pfifo> christoffer, is vim installed?
[10:43] <christoffer> pfifo, "export" says that both VISUAL and EDITOR is set but nano is still the program that opens
[10:43] <christoffer> yes, I edit my .bashrc with vim
[10:44] <xeroo> who here is from perth?
[10:44] <RaTTuS|BIG> !ot |xeroo
[10:44] <iceroot> there was a third var/env something with emacs in the name (found that on unix-systems)
[10:45] <Phoenix87> is it possible to install two different version of the same application?
[10:45] <pfifo> christoffer, it might be setup and an alternative, I remember there was some way to select your prefered cli texteditor
[10:45] <pfifo> let me google
[10:45] <iceroot> christoffer: sudo update-alternatives --config editor
[10:45] <khameis> pls i need code arabic channel
[10:46] <oCean> !arabic | khameis
[10:46] <khameis> yes
[10:46] <khameis> it is loged
[10:46] <christoffer> iceroot, thank you ...works perfectly
[10:46] <iceroot> christoffer: great
[10:47] <christoffer> pfifo, ... iceroot found the command to change editor now vim opens.
[10:47] <iceroot> christoffer: pfifo sudo visudo is not reading the EDITOR from the user but from root
[10:47] <christoffer> pfifo, thank you for your help ...much appreciated
[10:48] <pfifo> christoffer, yeah, i have a tutorial pulled up in my browser right now with that command, lol he beat me to it
[10:49] <christoffer> iceroot, aha, that makes sense
[10:49] <khameis> pls tell me whish is pest ubuntu OR mint
[10:49] <iceroot> khameis: the one you like more
[10:49] <khameis> ???
[10:49] <oCean> khameis: try and find out. Don't use this channel for polls
[10:49] <khameis> why
[10:50] <cloudgeek> ubuntu
[10:50] <iceroot> !best | khameis
[10:50] <cloudgeek> is best
[10:50] <oCean> khameis: this channel is for tech support issues only
[10:50] <hackel> How can I change the permissions an ntfs USB drive is mounted as?  I just want it to be world-readable.
[10:50] <khameis> ok thanks
[10:50] <box> hi guys
[10:50] <rar> Hej
[10:50] <cloudgeek> box:welcome
[10:53] <box> how do i stop the bluetooth from turning on everytime i switch my computer on?
[10:54] <RaTTuS|BIG> box disbale it in the bios -
[10:54] <iceroot> box: easiest is to disable it in the ios
[10:54] <iceroot> bios
[10:55] <box> but then i can't use it when i need it?
[10:55] <box> the bios only has 1 option for wireless which is wifi and bluetooth
[10:55] <RaTTuS|BIG> what do you want it diabled at boot then?
[10:55] <RaTTuS|BIG> why*
[10:55] <box> i meant when ubuntu loads - the bluetooths always on
[10:56] <Kikar> 1
[10:56] <Kikar> dfsdf
[10:56] <RaTTuS|BIG> box - how do you switch it off - then put that in a startup script
[10:56] <RaTTuS|BIG> !ot | Kikar
[10:58] <deej1976> Unity + Cairo dock = Usable
[10:58] <deej1976> Sorry wrong channel
[11:00] <aLeSD_> hi all
[11:00] <aLeSD_> I just bought an icecream mobile
[11:00] <aLeSD_> and I can't access through mtp protocol
[11:01] <aLeSD_> someone knows how to do it ?
[11:01] <RaTTuS|BIG> WTF is an icecream mobile
[11:01] <cloudgeek> hey what is that kind of mobile ??
[11:02] <aLeSD_> lol
[11:02] <aLeSD_> android 4.0.*
[11:02] <aLeSD_> galaxy nexus
[11:02] <RaTTuS|BIG> what do the logs tell you when you plug it in?
[11:03] <RaTTuS|BIG> aLeSD_ http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/how-to-connect-your-android-ice-cream-sandwich-phone-to-ubuntu-for-file-access/ ?
[11:10] <tewea> is there any fast converter to AVi mpeg exept winff
[11:11] <ikonia> tewea: mencoder ?
[11:11] <ikonia> tewea: the speed is normally down to your machine and the codec though
[11:11] <domedagen> tewea: Online variants?
[11:12] <inashdeen> hi guys, whats a UPS mode?
[11:12] <ikonia> inashdeen: in what respect ?
[11:13] <inashdeen> it is something for power saving thingy. but i want to know deeper
[11:13] <ikonia> inashdeen: in what respect that, UPS is "uniterupted power supply"
[11:13] <ikonia> inashdeen: but if you give context we can be a bit more clear
[11:13] <domedagen> Will a 60GB SSD be sufficient to run Ubuntu?
[11:13] <acke> Hey, i would like to see transfer speeds on smb rsync, i tried --stats and --progress but it doesnt work, i also read the rsync -h, but with no avail. Help someone?
[11:14] <domedagen> df -h says im using 28G currently
[11:14] <SwedeMike> domedagen: yes, absolutely.
[11:14] <milamber> domedagen: for a base install it is plenty
[11:14] <tewea> ikonia:can install it by typing sudo apt-get install mencoder
[11:14] <ikonia> tewea: think it's part of the mplayer package these days
[11:15] <RaTTuS|BIG> domedagen yeah - it works find on a 16Gb one I have -
[11:15] <RaTTuS|BIG> domedagen see also http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/09/04/four-tweaks-for-using-linux-with-solid-state-drives/
[11:15] <tewea> domedagen: online variants is that package?
[11:16] <domedagen> SwedeMike: & milamber: What do you think about getting a OCZ SSD?
[11:16] <SwedeMike> domedagen: they work, get vertex 2 or any of their 3rd gen ones
[11:16] <tewea> ikonia:i can't find it?
[11:17] <ikonia> tewea: do a search
[11:17] <domedagen> tewea: I mean, do you want to use one in the browser
[11:18] <domedagen> tewea: Try zamzar.com
[11:20] <tewea> domedagen:but it asks an email to get the converted file?
[11:21] <domedagen> tewea: It sends an email with the file attached
[11:22] <domedagen> tewea: I think you could try spaminator if you don't trust them
[11:23] <domedagen> tewea: But they are trustworthy imo. Just google them and you'll see that many tech-journalist recommend them
[11:24] <domedagen> tewea: IIRC there was also a CLI application for frequent file conversions
[11:24] <domedagen> Google convert * to * terminal
[11:25] <Starcraftmazter> Anyone familiar with Asus sonar essence ST? My system cant seem to detect it
[11:26] <menashnor> hi
[11:27] <menashnor> I'm trying to build libtorrent on shared hosting.
[11:27] <menashnor> aclocal:configure.ac:20: warning: macro `AM_PATH_CPPUNIT' not found in library
[11:27] <menashnor> I've installed cppunit in my home dir
[11:27] <menashnor> exported LD_ paths for lib and include
[11:27] <menashnor> and still have the same error
[11:31] <guest-o6fi55> when i try to log in, the screen flashes black and puts me back at the login screen.
[11:31] <guest-o6fi55> guest login works normally.... help?
[11:32] <inashdeen> is anyone here use ekiga. just a Q. is ekiga good?
[11:34] <inashdeen> bump
[11:34] <guest-o6fi55> sorry i'm using oneiric ocelot 11.10, and when i try to log in to my administrator account, the login screen recycles and prompts me for my password again. help for the newbie?
[11:35] <SunTsu> !patience | inashdeen
[11:35] <almoxarife> guest-o6fi55: log into admin account? explain
[11:37] <manoj4691> Getting error in installing oracle 10g xe on Ubuntu Oneiric - http://pastie.org/3025913
[11:38] <washuu_de> AFAIK... root has no paasword. You can't log in root. But you can use sudo <cmd>. It asks for your user passwort. If that doesn't work you need to give your user account sudo privilegdes.
[11:41] <osmosis> i appear to be getting this apache error because I am using an encrypted home directory. Is there a known fix?   (13)Permission denied: /home/steven/.htaccess pcfg_openfile: unable to check htaccess file, ensure it is readable
[11:44] <iceroot> osmosis: ls -all /home/steven/.htaccess
[11:44] <No> Preciso saber como se faz para entrar no chat do brasil
[11:45] <Guest45991> Por favor, me ajudem
[11:45] <Guest45991> EU PRECISO DE AJUDE
[11:45] <SunTsu> !br | No
[11:45] <honey_> iam system adminstartor one of server and allradey i was install it like ssh but currently i can't aceess it remotly is there any body who can assist me?
[11:45] <Guest45991> ME AJUDEM
[11:45] <Guest45991> POR FAVOR
[11:45] <Guest45991> PRECISO
[11:45] <Guest45991> EM AJUDEM
[11:45] <Guest45991> ME*
[11:45] <FloodBot1> Guest45991: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:45] <Joint> i though it was france lol
[11:45] <Guest45991> MAS EU PRECISO DE AJUDA PARA ENTRAR NO CHAT DO BRASIL
[11:45] <Guest45991> ME AJUDEM
[11:45] <Guest45991> EU PRECISO
[11:45] <FloodBot1> Guest45991: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:45] <osmosis> iceroot, ls: cannot access /home/steven/.htaccess: No such file or directory
[11:46] <TiMiDo> lol
[11:46] <iceroot> osmosis: then you have your answer
[11:46] <Guest45991> VAI TOMAR NO CÚ
[11:46] <Guest45991> NÃO FODE
[11:46] <FloodBot1> Guest45991: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> !es| Guest45991
[11:46] <Guest45991> VÃO SE FUDER
[11:46] <osmosis> iceroot, how so?
[11:46] <TiMiDo> !ops ban guest
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> !pt| Guest45991
[11:46] <iceroot> !ops | Guest45991
[11:46] <Guest45991> VÃO TOMAR NO CÚ SEUS BABACAS
[11:46] <Guest45991> VÃO SE FUDE
[11:46] <FloodBot1> Guest45991: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:46] <Guest45991> R
[11:46] <TiMiDo> annoying kid
[11:46] <iceroot> osmosis: there is no .htaccess file
[11:46] <iceroot> osmosis: create it
[11:46] <Guest45991> CRIANÇA É VOCE SEU BABACA
[11:46] <osmosis> iceroot, why would I need one?
[11:46] <Guest45991> SEU TROUXA
[11:46] <FloodBot1> Guest45991: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> Guest45991  i understand that particular phrase, stop it
[11:46] <Guest45991> TO TE TROLLANDO
[11:47] <iceroot> osmosis: dont ask me, you wanted the .htaccess file
[11:47] <SunTsu> Guest45991 proves: abusing drugs can be harmful
[11:47] <Guest45991> SEUS BABACAS
[11:47] <FloodBot1> Guest45991: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:47] <Guest45991> TO ABUSANDO É O CARALHO
[11:47] <Guest45991> VAI SE FUDER
[11:47] <osmosis> iceroot, i dont know why apache is asking for it. im guessing its just looking to see if the file exists, but cant find it because i installed with encrypted home directories
[11:47] <TiMiDo> ty LjL
[11:47] <TiMiDo> ;)
[11:47] <Guest45991> NÃO VOU COLOCAR PORRA NENHUMA
[11:47] <Guest45991> MERDA
[11:47] <TiMiDo> about time
[11:47] <TiMiDo> good job
[11:47] <TiMiDo> ;)
[11:47] <FloodBot1> TiMiDo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:47] <iceroot> osmosis: encrypted home was nothing to do with that
[11:48] <LjL> TiMiDo: sorry, wasn't paying attention
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> !coffee
[11:49] <repozitor> how to rename .s file using terminal?
[11:49] <deej1976> repozitor,  mv \.s newname
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> repozitor  move .file file
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> deej1976  is right
[11:50] <osmosis> iceroot, looks like its the permissions on my home dir. installing with encryped dir give it different perms
[11:50] <repozitor> tnx
[11:50] <iceroot> osmosis: there is no .htaccess! so what should be a permission issue?
[11:51] <Mad_Bear> hey there!
[11:51] <Mad_Bear> I have a question
[11:51] <osmosis> iceroot, apache cant read the dir to see if there is an .htaccess.  !!!   it needs to read the dir, doesnt need an htaccess. even if I created it, apache still couldnt read the dir.  !!!
[11:52] <Mad_Bear> There is a screen tearing while watching video on my Ubuntu 11.10
[11:52] <honey_> iam system admin one osf serevr iam using ubuntu to my server and in my serevr i cant acess it the page remotly ?it works somtime and after short of time it says"ERROR The requested URL could not be retrieved" and second thing i installed ssh allradey but i cant aces it remotly to the server
[11:52] <rubyplusplus> How can I view the "messages" that ubuntu flashes at me all the time?
[11:52] <Mad_Bear> can anybody tell me how to solve this problem?
[11:52] <iceroot> osmosis: first why should apache read directly in ~
[11:52] <ikonia> honey_: so what's the problem ?
[11:52] <iceroot> osmosis: sencond it has nothing to do with encrpytion because the partiton is already mounted and can be read by the system
[11:53] <honey_> ikonia:the problem is icoudn't acees it remotly to the server
[11:53] <almoxarife> Mad_Bear: tearing?
[11:53] <rubyplusplus> For example, I get a message from empathy that says "This person wants to be able to view your online", but I don't know where to find this.  There is an indicator-messages, that has the description that it holds messages that need a response, I just don't know how to access it.
[11:53] <osmosis> iceroot, because apache is configured by default to check every directory in its path.  My web files are in /home/steven/www/
[11:54] <osmosis> iceroot, as I said, encryped dirs are installed with different permssions. They are not world readable.
[11:54] <iceroot> osmosis: a normal home is also not wordl-readable
[11:54] <ikonia> honey_: ok - what error do you get when you try to ssh to it
[11:54] <iceroot> osmosis: as is said two times, encryption has nothing to do with file-permissions
[11:55] <cba123> I'm trying to port-forward SSH to my desktop through 2 routers (weird reasons, but I have 2).  I set the outside one to have a port that isn't 22, then the inner router that my desktop is connected to forwards that non-22 port to port 22 then to my PC.  However, it keeps getting rejected.  Any ideas?
[11:55] <honey_> ikonia:when i was trying to access using putty "connection reffused"
[11:56] <osmosis> anyone here in this channel can verify that home dirs are 755 on installs with unencrypted dirs, and 700 on installs with encypted dirs.
[11:56] <ikonia> osmosis: home dir should be 700 for secure, or 750 for more open or 755 for very open or 777 for massive risk
[11:56] <ikonia> osmosis: you make them as open as you want
[11:56] <iceroot> osmosis: that is part of a different mount
[11:57] <osmosis> ikonia, right, but what is the default
[11:57] <iceroot> osmosis: encryption itself has nothing to do with it!!!!!!!!!!
[11:57] <ikonia> osmosis: what does it matter ?
[11:57] <remx>  what do "online accounts" do?
[11:58] <osmosis> iceroot, are you saying that I changed the permissions and dont know it?
[11:58] <nettezzaumana> hello
[11:58] <nettezzaumana> i have one Q:
[11:58] <iceroot> osmosis: i say that encryption has nothing to do with file-permissions
[11:59] <nettezzaumana> customer has awkward ubuntu server and he reports some connectivity issues ... wtf is *localnet from this:
[11:59] <nettezzaumana> default         192.168.100.1   0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth1
[11:59] <nettezzaumana> localnet        *               255.255.255.0   U     1      0        0 eth1
[11:59] <osmosis> iceroot, you can keep saying that over and over again. But the fact remains, i have the installs right in front of me. On the install without encrypted home dirs, the home dir defaulted to 755. On the install with encrypted dirs it defaulted to 700.
[12:00] <osmosis> iceroot, using exclamation points doesnt change the fact
[12:00] <iceroot> osmosis: lets stop it here. encryption has nothing to do with file-permissions, maybe the automount is handling it different
[12:00] <iceroot> osmosis: but there is no single difference if you encrypt a file/fs/dir or not, the permissions are the same
[12:00] <almoxarife> cba123: both routers provide dhcp?
[12:01] <iceroot> osmosis: and even when the permissions are not correctly, what is the problem about changing them?
[12:01] <cba123> almoxarife, Yes, the external router has a different IP-space than the internal one.
[12:02] <Mad_Bear> almoxarife: so can you tell me how to solve this problem with tearing
[12:02] <osmosis> iceroot, i thought you said it has nothing to do with permissions and I need to create an .htaccess file
[12:02] <iceroot> osmosis: are you trolling me?
[12:02] <Mad_Bear> almoxarife: I sent you 4 messages allready - you don't answer
[12:02] <iceroot> osmosis: you have the error "file not found" i said create it, you said something about its because of different permissions
[12:03] <SunTsu> osmosis: iceroot repeated over and over again that encryption itself has nothing to do with the permissions
[12:03] <almoxarife> Mad_Bear: sent me msgs how?
[12:03] <Mad_Bear> almoxarife: personal chat
[12:03] <nettezzaumana> would anyone tell me what's *localnet in routing table above ?
[12:03] <Mad_Bear> almoxarife: or how do you call this
[12:03] <almoxarife> Mad_Bear: I don't do personal,
[12:04] <Mad_Bear> ok, can you tell me here?
[12:04] <deej1976> !pm | Mad_Bear:
[12:04] <nettezzaumana> is it some yet another ubuntu retardation - that it uncompatible differs to anything around ?
[12:04] <SunTsu> nettezzaumana: cat /etc/networks
[12:04] <almoxarife> Mad_Bear: I asked you to explain 'tearing'
[12:04] <nettezzaumana> SunTsu: thanks .. i'll reply that .. i have not a access to box, just only angry email
[12:04] <Mad_Bear> abottu: ok, I didn't know
[12:05] <SunTsu> nettezzaumana: btw. getting impolite will remove people's will to help you
[12:05] <almoxarife> cba123: can you ping the end machine?
[12:05] <cba123> almoxarife, Trying to now.  Have to reboot the router, brb
[12:05] <asmwrk> hi guys - the .deb file i downloaded for google chrome fails to install
[12:05] <Mad_Bear> so, guys. can you help me to eliminate this tearing?
[12:05] <asmwrk> just 'internal error'
[12:06] <asmwrk> has anyone else seen this?
[12:06] <asmwrk> im on 11.10 latest
[12:06] <almoxarife> Mad_Bear: I asked you to explain 'tearing'
[12:06] <k3Rn> hi. i have a little troubble with wget. how do i donwload all files from a specific folder like this one : http://libguestfs.org/download/binaries/ubuntu1110-packages/?
[12:07] <cba123> almoxarife, Actually, no, I can't ping it from outside.
[12:08] <almoxarife> cba123: do both routers firewall?
[12:09] <cba123_> almoxarife, I also tried SSHing from another local machine I have here (same router) and it can SSH locally, but when I put my external IP in, it says "nodename nor servname provided, or not known" even though I'm using the IP that I've always gotten from IP chicken.
[12:10] <llutz_> cba123_: you try to ssh via external IP from LAN? that needs nat-loopback enabled in the router
[12:11] <almoxarife> cba123_: ipchicken sees your public ip
[12:11] <cousin_luigi> how can I put icons pointing at different firefox profiles on dash?
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> what, ipchicken?
[12:12] <cba123_> llutz, I was, but that worked actually.  I think it's enabled then, but either way, it's working now.  I can SSH from my phone to my PC, which means I should be able to from my laptop to my PC when I'm travelling.
[12:12] <almoxarife> MonkeyDust: website, tells you're your public ip :)
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> :)
[12:13] <Mad_Bear> almoxarife: when I watch video in smplayer or vlc player there are some problems with syncronisation or something like that
[12:13] <cba123_> almoxarife, It's working now, I rebooted the router again, and it's working.  I think it was actually a setting in the app I was using.  I was saying cba123@IP:Port, but I had to do cba123@IP then set the port in the settings.
[12:13] <Mad_Bear> almoxarife: some horisontal lines on the picture
[12:14] <guest-KzwMUj> hello. when i try to log in, The login screen goes black, then returns.... to the login screen!!
[12:14] <guest-KzwMUj> ctrl alt f1 logins still work
[12:14] <DemonWitch> am i here
[12:15] <almoxarife> Mad_Bear: sync issues with all video or just some special ones?
[12:15] <guest-KzwMUj> but leaving with ctrl alt f7 usually crashes or blackscreens me
[12:15] <Mad_Bear> almoxarife: it's difficult for me  to explain this cause I don't know English so good to do this
[12:15] <pfifo> guest-KzwMUj, make sure you own your home directory
[12:15] <almoxarife> Mad_Bear: why not join the channel for your language?
[12:15] <cba123_> Thanks almoxarife & llutz
[12:15] <Mad_Bear> almoxarife: usually rips
[12:15] <guest-KzwMUj> i think i do
[12:15] <guest-KzwMUj> this issue only recently arose
[12:16] <Mad_Bear> cause none of our "specialists" can help me with that
[12:16] <guest-KzwMUj> perhaps i dont though. could you help me figure... that out?\
[12:16] <Mad_Bear> almoxarife: and I see you understand me in some way
[12:16] <DemonWitch> hey i got a problem with windows, when it boots it says /system32/hal.dll is missing. i reinstalled linux in another partition but didnt touch windows. except for windows being /dev/sda3 partition and made it /dev/sda4 (but it stayed in the same sector as data). how can i fix it? should i remake/edit boot.ini ?
[12:17] <Mad_Bear> almoxarife: so why not tot ask you&)
[12:17] <pfifo> guest i would run `sudo chown -R pfifo:pfifo /home/pfifo` just replace my username with yours
[12:17] <pfifo> guest-KzwMUj, see above
[12:17] <DemonWitch> hey i got a problem with windows, when it boots it says /system32/hal.dll is missing. i reinstalled linux in another partition but didnt touch windows. except for windows being /dev/sda3 partition and made it /dev/sda4 (but it stayed in the same sector as data). how can i fix it? should i remake/edit boot.ini ? (i used to boot windows from grub before, the same after the new linux install)
[12:17] <guest-KzwMUj> i can't use sudo from the guest login.
[12:18] <guest-KzwMUj> will that work from ctrl alt f1?
[12:18] <llutz_> guest-KzwMUj: su - yourusername
[12:18] <pfifo> guest-KzwMUj, run `su pfifo` first to switch to your normal user
[12:18] <guest-KzwMUj> operation not permitted :/
[12:19] <pfifo> guest-KzwMUj, can you change your nick with /nick <new name>
[12:19] <almoxarife> Mad_Bear: I don't have any answers for you, video issues can be caused by so many things, do you get same issues from viewing a vid on youtube?
[12:20] <can> hm
[12:20] <can> did it work?
[12:20] <pfifo> can, try logging in from the ctrl-alt-f1 terminal
[12:20] <can> it gave me an error
[12:20] <can> ok heres the problem with that
[12:20] <can> usually i cant come back
[12:20] <can> sometimes pressing ctrl alt f7 gives me a black screen
[12:20] <can> sometimes i can see, but not interact with my open windows.
[12:21] <Mad_Bear> almoxarife: i can provide gice more information about this. Just tell me what you need
[12:21] <pfifo> can, well, you can still chown, and then reboot
[12:21] <can> very well. brb.
[12:21] <d3ngar> Hi there
[12:21] <d3ngar> I have a bit of an odd problem: I can't connect to MS SQL over the network anymore
[12:21] <d3ngar> It used to work fine
[12:22] <d3ngar> Now every client I use is refusing me
[12:22] <d3ngar> I can pint the host, but I can't connect
[12:22] <d3ngar> Any advice?
[12:22] <Mad_Bear> almoxarife: I use 11.10. My GPU is GTX460 768mb and I use hardware acceleration
[12:22] <pfifo> d3ngar, are you sure the server is running? also mysql or mssql?
[12:22] <Mad_Bear> almoxarife: vdpau
[12:22] <can> off i go >>>>
[12:22] <d3ngar> mssql
[12:22] <d3ngar> Yes, the server is running
[12:23] <pfifo> d3ngar, mssql running in linux?
[12:23] <d3ngar> I have a VM-Ware machine (not the server) and that connects ffine
[12:23] <Mad_Bear> almoxarife: I have enabled all vsync options that I could
[12:23] <d3ngar> No, server on the network
[12:23] <d3ngar> I checked on other local machines and they connect fine
[12:23] <almoxarife> Mad_Bear: don't we all, with all that hardware support you would think tear issues would be a thing of the past
[12:23] <d3ngar> I connected fine, until yesterday
[12:24] <pfifo> d3ngar, so its only 1 ubuntu machine thats not connecting?
[12:24] <d3ngar> pfifo: that is correct, sadly
[12:24] <d3ngar> and it's mine!
[12:24] <pfifo> d3ngar, what error does it give?
[12:24] <Mad_Bear> almoxarife: I don't think that. I just want my computer work)
[12:24] <almoxarife> Mad_Bear: do you have an example stream?
[12:25] <d3ngar> Nothing
[12:25] <Mad_Bear> almoxarife: what example stream do you mean?
[12:25] <d3ngar> pfifo: Nothing, nothing at all
[12:25] <d3ngar> It just doesn't say anything at all
[12:25] <incorrect> why do the on screen notifications appear slightly down from from the top of the screen rather than just under the top bar thingy
[12:25] <pfifo> d3ngar, you using a cli client right?
[12:26] <incorrect> and why can't i click them away?
[12:26] <d3ngar> I use it in a java programme: SQuirreL and I also use it in Eclipse
[12:26] <d3ngar> I wrote a very basic Java app to test it
[12:26] <d3ngar> And it works fine on other machines, but not on mine
[12:26] <pfifo> d3ngar, in that case start eclipse form the cli and try connecting see if it give an error
[12:26] <d3ngar> It even works in my damned Virtual box, but not in Windows
[12:27] <d3ngar> No, no error
[12:27] <d3ngar> It just doesn't run through
[12:27] <d3ngar> It essentially halts when making the connection
[12:27] <thisisthegnomelo> I've only had this problem in ubuntu where it says in Chrome: "The native client plug-in is not allowed". What does that mean?
[12:27] <d3ngar> Not timing out, not throwing an error, not doing anything at all
[12:27] <d3ngar> Same app works on different machines
[12:27] <pfifo> d3ngar, does the server have a log that could indicate the problem, or atleast verify that you machine is trying to connect?
[12:28] <d3ngar> pfifo: good question, I will check that
[12:28] <d3ngar> but my suspicion is that there is something preventing me from using it
[12:28] <NarcDeDaff> Hello everyone. I installed PlayOnLinux through their repo, It updated Wine to 1.3 at first run and now I can't remove it and go back to Ubuntu's repo version 1.2. I remove purge wine and Playonlinux but it's still 1.3.
[12:28] <can> mmmokay
[12:28] <theadmin> NarcDeDaff: It probably added it's own repo, check /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[12:29] <can> chown looked like it may have worked
[12:29] <can> i restarted
[12:29] <jrib> NarcDeDaff: you should remove all of the packages you installed from that repository (for example, some of wine's dependencies)
[12:29] <can> and it ended me up on a text-full screen ending in mountall: disconnected from plymouth
[12:29] <can> or something comparable
[12:29] <Mad_Bear> almoxarife: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tearing_%28simulated%29.jpg - I have the same
[12:29] <can> i restarted again, bootup worked, but the login procedure still fails
[12:29] <NarcDeDaff> theadmin: Yes, I did, in a separate .list file.
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> NarcDeDaff  maybe there's some hidden .config file you have to delete
[12:30] <theadmin> NarcDeDaff: Remove that repo... Just rm that .list
[12:30] <pfifo> can, do you have more than one user on you machine?
[12:30] <theadmin> NarcDeDaff: After that, apt-get update && apt-get install wine
[12:30] <jrib> pfifo: yes
[12:30] <can> negative
[12:30] <jrib> pfifo: erm never mind...
[12:30] <can> pertinent info: i tried deleting my hashed password from the shadow file
[12:31] <can> i was certain only to delete between the :'s
[12:31] <can> but that was because i had lost my password before that
[12:31] <Boreeas> Is there a way to permanently disable a synaptics touchpad? I use xinput set-prop 13 "Device Enabled" 0, but everytime the computer goes to sleep or shuts down, it is reenabled again
[12:31] <jrib> can: you should probably expand on what "tried" means
[12:31] <aguitel> how works razor-qt in ubuntu?
[12:31] <can> eventually someone directed me to a grub commandline, wherefrom i could change my password to this one that my comp does recognize
[12:32] <can> lemme find the right syntax so i dont sound dumbbbb
[12:32] <NarcDeDaff> theadmin: I already did that, but the 1.3 wine stays there. I think it was downloaded and compiled installed separately without apt by PlayOnlinux... Just a guess.
[12:32] <MonkeyDust> Boreeas  install gpoint blah
[12:32] <can> i used mount -o remount, rw /
[12:32] <can> nano -b /etc/shadow
[12:32] <can> found my username, and deleted the encryptified password.
[12:32] <jrib> NarcDeDaff: what ubuntu version are you using?  pastebin the output of « apt-cache policy wine wine1.3 »
[12:33] <sveinse> I have a wierd issue with ssh (on natty): If I create a ssh key with ssh-keygen, I lose the ability to log in to any ssh server. I'm not asked for password, and instead it sais "too many authentication failures". If I delete the newly created identity files, I am once again able to login using ssh
[12:33] <can> this was supposedly going to allow me to login with no password entered
[12:33] <jrib> can: in the future, just use the "recovery mode" option from the grub menu.  Do you have a sane shadow file currently?
[12:33] <can> after it ... did not do that, i proceeded to this next method, which changed my password, allowing me ctrlaltF1 login, but no real log in.
[12:33] <pfifo> can, goto the terminal and su to your user and then run `sudo passwd <username>` and set a new password
[12:34] <can> i tried
[12:34] <can> jrib: i used that method
[12:34] <can> jrib: but i got authentication token modification errors
[12:34] <can> pfifa, remember- i'm unable to su to my username. operation not permitted
[12:35] <can> jrib: i'm not sure what sane means in this context.
[12:35] <jrib> can: what was your original question/issue you asked in this channel?
[12:36] <can> jrib: my new password for my login works, as verified by ctrl alt f1 logging in; however, when i enter my password at the desktop login screen, it all goes black for a few seconds, then returns to the login screen
[12:36] <jrib> can: check ~/.xsession-errors
[12:36] <NarcDeDaff> jrib: I'm using 11.10. Here's the pastebin. I'm a bit confused... http://pastebin.com/rDTtxH1p
[12:36] <can> excuse my newb, but how do i check that?
[12:36] <can> is that a file in home?
[12:36] <jrib> NarcDeDaff: wine1.3 is from oneiric repositories
[12:36] <jrib> can: yes
[12:37] <can> it's not coming up in search. could you help me navigate to it?
[12:37] <jrib> can: ~ means /home/your_username
[12:37] <can> k
[12:38] <can> it's not showing up in the graphical interface
[12:38] <tonysan> Can I constraint ssh/sftp user to his home directory?
[12:38] <jrib> can: I thought you didn't have a graphical interface
[12:38] <can> and. as i stated, i can't su user .
[12:38] <can> i'm logged in as guest
[12:39] <jrib> can: type: gedit ~your_username/.xsession-errors
[12:39] <user82> hi. does anyone know how to use less color intensity in gutenprint? there is a option called "cyan density" etc but it only ranges from 0(default) to +5?
[12:39] <can> unable to change to sudoers gid: operation not permitted
[12:40] <NarcDeDaff> jrib: That's what I saw, but why I can't remove it then.. ? after apt-get remove wine, wine --version is still 1.3.28... Thanks for you help by the way.
[12:40] <can> (without sudo likewise gives me a graphical privelage error)
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> NarcDeDaff  try ubuntu-tweak or even bleachbit for an in-depth deletion of files
[12:41] <jrib> MonkeyDust: because you are removing the "wine" package, not the "wine1.3" package
[12:41] <pfifo> can I think you should create a new user with sudo privileges that you can use to login with
[12:41] <NarcDeDaff> jrib: Wow, I'm thick today... Thanks.
[12:41] <can> sounds good.
[12:41] <Angelon> Jack este es http://iteslj.org/cw/1/je-xmas.html
[12:42] <researcher123> I need urgetn help after a partial install of 64 bit system on a already existing 32 bit Ubuntu 11.10. Please HELP
[12:42] <can> from ctrl alt f1 i guess i can do that?
[12:42] <aguitel> researcher123, partial?
[12:42] <can> can i work around my user privelage issue with a root password, maybe?
[12:42] <can> i've done passwd root  somewhere up the line
[12:43] <inz> Angelon, there is a mistake, neither "Finland", nor "Korvatunturi" fits to 2
[12:43] <pfifo> can yes, get to a root shell and then use `adduser <username>` and then `adduser <username> sudo` `adduser <username> wheel` `adduser <username> admin`
[12:43] <researcher123> aguitel: I was installing 64 bit OS on already existing 32 bit n it suddenly stopped so I restarted . Now cant log in my original 32 bit system except as root
[12:43] <mutes> hi, i used the usb installer utility to make a bootable flash drive for another computer, and now i have what appears to be two peripheral devices sitting on my desktop, after i removed the flash drive physically
[12:44] <can> fun stuff. i'll be back when i'm logged in from my new user. thanks for your ongoing attention.
[12:44] <MonkeyDust> researcher123  you mean you were replacing 32bit by 64bit?
[12:44] <mutes> nevermind ignore me
[12:44] <SEXY> angelon
[12:44] <aguitel> researcher123, you installed from scratch ?
[12:44] <Angelon> Jack este es http://iteslj.org/cw/1/je-xmas.html
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> !es| Angelon
[12:45] <researcher123> I was not rep[laing but was installing 64 bit side by side of a 32 bit which was already existing
[12:45] <Angelon> I speak ingles.
[12:45] <Angelon> arooh
[12:45] <SEXY> ubottu suck my dick
[12:45] <Angelon> compaeee
[12:45] <researcher123> I wasnt installing from scratch
[12:45] <aguitel> researcher123, you need to installed from scratch
[12:45] <SEXY> suck my dick bastards
[12:46] <researcher123> my much good work is on 32 bit OS. cant access as an authorised except root
[12:46] <pfifo> !language | SEXY
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> pfifo  ignore him
[12:46] <SEXY> !language
[12:46] <SEXY> sex
[12:46] <SEXY> bitch
[12:46] <SEXY> mother fucker
[12:49] <researcher123> How can I undo to partial installation of 64 bit Ubuntu 11.10?
[12:49] <andyn> using ubuntu will get you laid if you use a macos theme
[12:49] <mutes> researcher123, format the drive
[12:49] <researcher123> mutes: I have 32 bit installed on rest of the drive
[12:49] <deej1976> !ops SEXY
[12:50] <mutes> so what
[12:50] <deej1976> !op SEXY
[12:50] <researcher123> mutes: ????
[12:50] <pfifo> its: !ops | SEXY
[12:50] <deej1976> cheers
[12:51] <llutz_> researcher123: you just install 64bit again on the partition you tried before
[12:51] <dmorfin> researcher123: or you can install 32bit again on the partition you tried before
[12:51] <dmorfin> depending on what you want to accomplish
[12:51] <can> ok. so adduser me wheel returned: the group wheel doesn't exist
[12:52] <can> otherwise, i'm now logged in as a new root user
[12:52] <d3ngar> pfifo: I checked on the logs  and that, it's not saying anything
[12:52] <llutz_> can: admin is the sudo-group, not wheel
[12:52] <researcher123> llutz: how to do that?
[12:52] <aguitel> how upgrade ubuntu from terminal (no GUI)
[12:52] <d3ngar> pfifo: You can see that when I use the wrong password, it logs that
[12:52] <can> that's k
[12:52] <can> adduser admin and adduser sudo worked
[12:52] <theadmin> aguitel: sudo do-release-upgrade
[12:52] <d3ngar> But if the password is right, it's working
[12:52] <pfifo> can, depending on your version/flavor you either need to be in sudo, wheel or admin, so best to just try all 3
[12:52] <aguitel> theadmin, thanks
[12:52] <can> bueno
[12:53] <can> that file. what was it, xsession...?
[12:53] <pfifo> can, can you login to X with the new user?
[12:53] <theadmin> aguitel: If you mean to update packages, "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" is the way. Also, do that before the release upgrade.
[12:53] <researcher123> how do I know which partition has a working 32 bit system and which has an incomplete 64 bit during the course of a failed 64 bit install?
[12:53] <can> is "X" Xterminal?
[12:54] <pfifo> can, i mean can you get past the login screen now
[12:54] <llutz_> researcher123: boot into your 32bit, "mount" check for "/" entry
[12:54] <can> my new user's name is me. i'm currently logged in as me
[12:54] <theadmin> can: X is X. Or Xorg. The main componnent underlying anything graphical (except stuff which uses directfb, but that's a whole different story)
[12:54] <aguitel> theadmin, ok
[12:54] <pfifo> d3ngar, im out of ideas, but its definatly looking like its the ubuntu machine's problem
[12:54] <can> oo, thank u
[12:54] <pfifo> can, are you able to use sudo as me
[12:55] <bobweaver> hello there is any one here realy good with julius >
[12:55] <bobweaver> ?
[12:55] <can> yes
[12:55] <zho> anyone here have an experience with SAN Storage?
[12:55] <can> sudo works
[12:55] <bobweaver> zho:  nope sorry
[12:56] <zho> ok
[12:56] <skypent> downloaded amazondler.deb and did dpkg -i ; but where do i find the program when it asks what program to open with in the prompt?
[12:56] <pfifo> can ok good, run `sudo cat /home/<oldusername>/.xsession-errors` and pastebin any output
[12:56] <theadmin> skypent: Normally you can just type the program name, such as "firefox" or "google-chrome" or something.
[12:56] <theadmin> skypent: If you want the full path, try "which program-name"
[12:56] <bobweaver> skypent:  sudo find / -name amazondler
[12:57] <can> i dont think i'm gonna need pastebin
[12:57] <can> iiiiiiit's empty.
[12:57] <skypent> alright i'll give those a shot
[12:57] <can> maybe.
[12:57] <can> uh
[12:57] <can> lemme go try and login to the old username, see if that gives an error to look at
[12:57] <can> if i to understand what we're doing
[12:57] <pfifo> can run `sudo cat /etc/shadow` and pastebin any output
[12:57] <pfifo> wait
[12:58] <can> k
[12:58] <pfifo> is it safe todo that?
[12:58] <bobweaver> pfifo:  Oo
[12:58] <bobweaver> pfifo:  NO it is not
[12:58] <can> lol
[12:58] <bobweaver> your shadow file is not save to give out
[12:58] <can> my password has was deltaco'd anyway
[12:58] <llutz_> sudo grep oldusername /etc/shadow
[12:58] <theadmin> bobweaver: How so? Passwords are encrypted anyway
[12:59] <can> guys. i'll change my password after i'm able to actually get in
[12:59] <can> i have 0 sensitive information
[12:59] <bobweaver> reverse to make in plain text crack with john theadmin
[12:59] <pfifo> do what llutz_ said, thats the problematic line
[13:00] <llutz_> theadmin: 640 root:root for /etc/shadow has a reason
[13:00] <can> unless you want to steal my save data for battle for wesnoth
[13:00] <bobweaver> theadmin:  like this /etc/shadow not Sam     Unshadow >> temp/hash.txt
[13:00] <can> sorry, slight disconnect issue. police must have been untrunking from my line.
[13:02] <bobweaver> theadmin:  once you unshadow use john like  john [OPTIONS] [PASSWORD-FILES]
[13:03] <bobweaver> and that will crack password well one way of doing it.
[13:04] <saju_m> have any linux command line tool available for manage user quota easily ???
[13:04] <bobweaver> saju_m: what is user quota ?
[13:04] <llutz_> saju_m: quotatool
[13:04] <theadmin> bobweaver: Limit of how much data user can store in her $HOME
[13:05] <theadmin> bobweaver: Or his, whateverf
[13:05] <bobweaver> theadmin: Thanks
[13:05] <bobweaver> cool
[13:05] <can> sorry about that
[13:06] <can> as soon as i entered the command for my shadow file, there was a catastrophic network failure
[13:06] <can> *cough* police van outside *cough cough*
[13:06] <bobweaver> can:  you are making me rotf
[13:06] <can> so
[13:06] <can> what was the consensus?
[13:07] <can> in a good way maybe?
[13:07] <bobweaver> can:  yes
[13:07] <can> hurray >_>
[13:07] <pfifo> can lets stay on topic, pastebin the line from your shadow file, and if there is an encrypted password in the second field change a few chars to be safe
[13:07] <can> mk
[13:07] <bobweaver> can: you lost password ?
[13:08] <pfifo> bobweaver, no he borked his /etc/shadow
[13:08] <pfifo> manually
[13:08] <bobweaver> ohh Oo ouch
[13:09] <MonkeyDust> i don't get the syntax of the john comamand
[13:09] <schnuffle> why not rebuild the shadow from /etc/password
[13:09] <MonkeyDust> command*
[13:10] <can> see sidebar, pfifo
[13:10] <llutz_> MonkeyDust: http://www.openwall.com/john/doc/
[13:11] <gizmobay> I want to assign a key a bash command to turn on my tv screen. This command will be echo. Hotkeys is the best way to go?
[13:11] <can> gerald is busted
[13:11] <can> me is new
[13:11] <pfifo> can, change it to gerald::15324:0:99999:7:::
[13:12] <can> guestss 1U through PL are attempts to fix this mess
[13:12] <can> i'm  having network d/c r/c issues. am i connected right now?
[13:12] <oddie_> is there a way to resize the left menu bar in gnome 3?
[13:12] <can> THeere we go
[13:12] <can> ok
[13:12] <can> how do i edit it?
[13:12] <can> gksudo gedit etc etc?
[13:13] <pfifo> can, yeah thats fin
[13:13] <pfifo> sweet, free cigarettes
[13:14] <induz> why after a while my ubuntu screen crackles...I have 1Gb PentiumIV in my system
[13:15] <almoxarife> oddie_: no, don't think so
[13:15] <Gentoo64> induz, the screen or the sound?
[13:15] <skypent> hey ubuntu helper bros, i love you
[13:15] <can> bear with me. network is still siezing up periodically
[13:16] <oddie_> almoxarife: thx....
[13:16] <almoxarife> oddie_: it does disappear don't it?
[13:16] <induz> screen[ desktop]
[13:16] <can> ok, when i gksudo gedit /etc/shadow, it returns GtK-WARNING: unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap"
[13:16] <induz> Gnome
[13:16] <oddie_> almoxarife: yeah but its large...
[13:16] <Gentoo64> can, thats normal
[13:16] <Gentoo64> does it open?
[13:17] <pfifo> can use sudo nano /etc/shadow if all else fails
[13:17] <can> no, let me close some windows and try again
[13:17] <MonkeyDust> oddie_  it's some option in ccsm
[13:17] <can> i dont see an open gedit anywhere tho
[13:17] <zedr> pfifo: nano is really the last resort
[13:17] <Gentoo64> can, you just typed it. gksudo gedit
[13:18] <Gentoo64> zedr, the cli editors are better
[13:18] <pfifo> zedr, I doubt he knows emacs
[13:18] <zedr> Gentoo64: I use ed, visual editors are for wimps
[13:18] <can> nano made my heart rate rise. like. forbidden zone stuff
[13:18] <can> k. i had to close the home folder
[13:18] <zedr> Gentoo64: when I'm not using cat - >
[13:18] <almoxarife> oddie_: you have compiz?
[13:18] <Gentoo64> zedr, i thought you meant a last resort to gui
[13:18] <oddie_> MonkeyDust: I'll check it out thx
[13:18] <jonte> Hi. My empathy chat client is visually broken. I think some configuration file has been corrupted. Can I reset all empathy related config entries? I want to do something like what you did in ye olden days with rm ~/.application_config/
[13:19] <llutz_> editor-discussion goes to #mineislonger pls
[13:19] <Gentoo64> this is related
[13:19] <Gentoo64> to his problem
[13:20] <llutz_> Gentoo64:  14:18 < zedr> Gentoo64: I use ed, visual editors are for wimps     not at all
[13:20] <oddie_> almoxarife: compiz is installed
[13:20] <Gentoo64> ok well that werent me lol
[13:20] <can> all done
[13:20] <can> so, now gerald's password is just to press enter?
[13:20] <Gentoo64> jonte, look in .config
[13:21] <pfifo> cat switch to alt-ctrl-f1 and try to login with no password
[13:21] <IsUp> hello, im ruınning 11.04 (natty), my server says on login, "New release 'oneiric' available. Run 'do-release-upgrade' to upgrade to it." should i do upgrade on SSH session?
[13:21] <Gentoo64> if empathy is there delete it
[13:21] <pfifo> can, see above
[13:21] <jonte> Gentoo64, Cheers
[13:21] <llutz_> can: that will break use of sudo for gerald
[13:21] <can> fair enough. i can root adduser gerald sudo later right?
[13:22] <llutz_> can: no, needs a password for gerald
[13:22] <almoxarife> oddie_: are you sure you are talking about gnome-shell and not unity? that left bar on unity can not go away, on gnome-shell it disappears
[13:22] <can> passwd gerald...?
[13:22] <can> anywho brb.
[13:22] <zedr> gerald needs a girlfriend, not a password
[13:23] <jonte> Gentoo64, more ideas? Nothing interesting there, only window geometry settings. All credentials and so forth must be stored somewhere?
[13:23] <deej1976> !ccsm | oddie_:
[13:24] <Gentoo64> jonte, im not sure then
[13:24] <can> i'll probably have to restart due to ctrl alt f7 bugs
[13:24] <jonte> Gentoo64, Alright, I appreciate the help anyhow
[13:24] <pfifo> can, well if you can login, run 'passwd' and set a password, before having to reboot
[13:24] <Gentoo64> ok sorry
[13:25] <oddie_> Thanks all, im on it
[13:27] <d3ngar> pfifo: it turns out the problem was with the JRE
[13:27] <d3ngar> I uninstalled open~ and installed the Sun stuff. It works now
[13:27] <enbake> hello everyone i have eclipse which crashes due to JRE is that a bug
[13:28] <d3ngar> enbake:
[13:28] <schnuffle> enbake: don't you need a JDK?
[13:28] <d3ngar> enbake: I just had a problem with the JRE
[13:28] <pfifo> d3ngar, ahh, yeah openjdk is crap
[13:28] <schnuffle> enbake: and make sure you use the oracle JDK
[13:28] <enbake> d3ngar:i have jdk
[13:29] <d3ngar> enbake: you need both JDK and JRE. JDK comes with a JRE
[13:29] <d3ngar> Which one are you using?
[13:29] <me> er
[13:29] <me> i cant switch my nickname
[13:29] <me> but me is can
[13:29] <me> and i am can
[13:29] <can> derp
[13:29] <WanderingEnder> If I wish to switch from xubuntu to lubuntu, is it a simple matter of sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop, or should I grab an ISO and reformat?
[13:29] <can> now i am can
[13:29] <can> soooo
[13:29] <can> gerald's password was removed.
[13:29] <enbake> d3ngar:i have many versions of jre
[13:29] <llutz_> WanderingEnder: just install lubuntu-desktop and switch session at login
[13:30] <can> but i've got an idea. as to why gerald is locked out
[13:30] <can> and ctrl alt f7 fails
[13:30] <d3ngar> enbake: that's awesome - I had the same
[13:30] <pfifo> can, were you able to set a password with 'passwd'
[13:30] <enbake> d3ngar:currently openjdk-7 is default
[13:30] <WanderingEnder> llutz_: that's what I thought, wanted to make sure.
[13:30] <can> yes, i did do that
[13:30] <can> but it didn't fix anything
[13:30] <can> so i re re restarted, and re re removed the password, in case we need to look at /gerald later
[13:30] <d3ngar> enbake: I unisntalled them all and re-installed the Sun version
[13:30] <can> the last time i was on gerald
[13:30] <d3ngar> That solved the particular issue I had, but I don't know what yours is
[13:31] <can> i was playing starcraft.
[13:31] <d3ngar> Eclipse is just not starting?
[13:31] <can> the monitor went to sleep when i left it up for too long
 no it starts but crashes soon
[13:31] <can> and the password, i did not know. so i had to hard-shutdown my computer with starcraft running
[13:31] <d3ngar> Could be an issue with openjdk~
[13:31] <WanderingEnder> is there a way to get a list of xubuntu-desktop packages in the metapackage so I can remove them? Is that even needed?
[13:31] <schnuffle> enbake: if you have more than one JDK installed set JAVA_HOME,e.g: JAVA_HOME=/path/to/java eclipse
[13:31] <can> i think when starcraft was sinking, it tore down the gerald around it.
[13:31] <d3ngar> there should be log files for Eclipse
[13:31] <enbake> d3ngar:sometimes it runs perfectly
[13:31] <llutz_> WanderingEnder: apt-cache depends xubuntu-desktop
[13:31] <pfifo> can, no thats not is
[13:32] <can> Lol
[13:32] <d3ngar> Let me see if you need to start this in a debug mode....
[13:32] <can> darn
[13:32] <can> thought i was on to something
[13:32] <enbake> schnuffle: set it inside a file ?
[13:32] <can> i wish i'd tried ctrl alt f7 before this whole issue started so i'd know if it was related.
[13:32] <schnuffle> enbake: no at the commandline
[13:32] <pfifo> can, is the a `ls -la /home/gerald/.Xauthority` file?
[13:32] <enbake> d3ngar:i have the error logs if u can see that..
[13:33] <d3ngar> erm...
[13:33] <schnuffle> enbake: if it solves your problem you can set it in your profile to make it permanent
[13:33] <can> i dont get the question.
[13:33] <can> there a*? lemme check
[13:33] <d3ngar> Well, you can write a debug for eclipse: -debug FILENAME
[13:33] <pfifo> can, run `ls -la /home/gerald/.Xauthority` see if it finds a file
[13:33] <d3ngar> But I would try using a different jre and removing the ones you don't want or use
[13:34] <d3ngar> enbake: best of luck
[13:34] <enbake> schnuffle: would it be nt the same as setting it through update-alternatives
[13:34] <can> the bollocks... it says ls: cannot access /home........ : permission denied
[13:34] <enbake> d3ngar : thanks lemme run debug and remove all extra versions
[13:34] <can> 2 seconds.
[13:34] <can> brb
[13:34] <schnuffle> enbake: Not really, because update-alternatives only sets java, You would have to do it for javac ....... as well
[13:35] <pfifo> can, run `sudo ls -la /home` pastebin the output
[13:35] <enbake> schnuffle: i'll jus check out and be back
[13:35] <d3ngar> schnuffle: why have multiple JREs anyways? Unless you have a need to test them or use them for different things, but if one is causing you issues
[13:35] <d3ngar> ...
[13:35] <enbake> schnuffle: thanks fr the help
[13:36] <alihammad> how can i install color schemes on sublime text 2 running on ubuntu 11.10
[13:36] <d3ngar> As I said, I had a bug with my Openjdk just now
[13:36] <XxXxxX> http:// 41.110.235.117/
[13:36] <schnuffle> d3ngar: I have a need to use 1.4, 1.5 and 1.6 otherwise you're right there's no real reason
[13:36] <d3ngar> I installed Sun's verions
[13:36] <can> i dont know if you're reading me, all has gone black. resetting. fffff--ing ctrlaltf7
[13:38] <XxXxxX> 41.110.235.117
[13:38] <XxXxxX> 41.110.235.117
[13:39] <Guest36907> ping youguys.areyoureadingme
[13:39] <pfifo> Guest36907, yes
[13:39] <XxXxxX> 41.110.235.117
[13:40] <conntrack> G'day
[13:41] <can> the rumors of my connectivity are greatly exaggerated.
[13:42] <pfifo> can, run `sudo ls -la /home` pastebin the output
[13:42] <can> wonderful
[13:42] <can> im back
[13:42] <can> ok.
[13:43] <can> nooothing worked :/
[13:43] <can> ctrl alt f1 login with gerald: no password needed
[13:43] <can> login screen login with gerald: password incorrect
[13:45] <pfifo> can, you set a password with 'passwd' correct? it appears that you didnt
[13:45] <can> aaand it appears i've been knocked offline again . typical. someone teach me how to hack so i can delete *.* these fcking pigs.
[13:45] <schnuffle> can: you don't need to hack you need to lern how to use your system
[13:45] <can> seemingly, keeping ping running in terminal is helping me stay online
[13:46] <can> let's agree to disagree.
[13:46] <can> sorry. getting a little ornery, i've been at this password issue since 480 minutes ago
[13:46] <enbake> schnuffle: still crashes..
[13:47] <schnuffle> enbake: Which version of Eclipse, any speciall plugins?
[13:47] <SunTsu> can: hacking is easy, just take an axe and go deep into the woods
[13:47] <enbake> JRE version: 6.0_23-b23
[13:47] <enbake> # Java VM: OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (20.0-b11 mixed mode linux-amd64 compressed oops)
[13:47] <enbake> # Derivative: IcedTea6 1.11pre
[13:47] <enbake> # Distribution: Ubuntu 11.10, package 6b23~pre11-0ubuntu1.11.10
[13:47] <enbake> # Problematic frame:
[13:47] <enbake> # V  [libjvm.so+0x46d6a0]  PhaseChaitin::build_ifg_physical(ResourceArea*)+0x370
[13:47] <FloodBot1> enbake: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:47] <can> suntsu: that would solve my problem in the most delightful and refreshing way. good suggestion
[13:47] <tata> how can redifine gnu grub, I wont only linux and win choice?
[13:48] <enbake> sorry pasted the error of eclipse like this
[13:48] <schnuffle> enbake: switch to oracle JDK and try again
[13:48] <enbake> i did..
[13:48] <enbake> export JAVA_HOME="/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.26/"
[13:48] <schnuffle> enbake: But your're still using openjdk from what you postet
[13:48] <pfifo> tata, for that you would need to make your own grub.cfg, bypassing ubuntus setup
[13:49] <enbake> i wrote this in the /etc/profile
[13:49] <llutz_> tata: read grub2-documentation and create your own /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[13:49] <enbake> and then signed out and signed back in
[13:49] <enbake> also checked the java alternatives command
[13:49] <schnuffle> enbake: okay open a terminal: env | grep JAVA and check if it's really defined in your environemet
[13:50] <enbake> returns JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.26/
[13:50] <schnuffle> hm
[13:50] <tata> ok
[13:51] <can> network issues, network issues
[13:51] <enbake> schnuffle: any ideas ?
[13:51] <tonysan> Can I constraint ssh/sftp user to his home directory?
[13:51] <shaye> i just put mint 12 on my inspiron 1501 and loaded the brodcom driver for wireless, rebooted but do not see a wireles option?
[13:52] <pfifo> tonysan, you can with ftp, but not ssh
[13:52] <llutz_> !mint | shaye
[13:52] <schnuffle> enbake: can you check the eclispe.ini to see if there's any thing defined?
[13:53] <schnuffle> enbake: http://wiki.eclipse.org/Eclipse.ini
[13:53] <enbake> schnuffle: found it at /etc/eclipse.ini
[13:53] <enbake> schnuffle: no lines pertaining to jvm
[13:54] <schnuffle> enbake: then try to set it there, the link I provided has a example for Linux
[13:54] <llutz_> tonysan: read about ChrootDirectory  (man sshd_config)
[13:55] <inashdeen> hi, i need help. my internal mic is working with ubuntu, but my headset mic doesnt. the mic is fine, tested on windows. configured on alsa mixer, but failed to make any differences
[13:55] <enbake> schnuffle: which path would this be ?
[13:55] <ucenik05> hi
[13:56] <kesthe> nokia pc suite  para ubuntu tem ?
[13:56] <schnuffle> enbake: should be usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.26/bin/java
[13:56] <ucenik05> hii
[13:56] <ucenik06> :D
[13:56] <ucenik05> hhhhhhhaahahahha
[13:56] <ucenik05> :D:D:D
[13:56] <ucenik06> haha
[13:56] <ucenik05> D:D:
[13:56] <ucenik06> awesome
[13:56] <ucenik05> ccccc
[13:56] <llutz_> ucenik05: stop that
[13:56] <ucenik05> koj e kuti nas
[13:56] <ucenik05> :D:D
[13:56] <FloodBot1> ucenik05: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:56] <ucenik05> haahhaa
[13:57] <Phr3d13> !esp
[13:57] <ucenik06> koj sa uvacave
[13:57] <pfifo> inashdeen, make sure the app your using is setup to use the correct mic
[13:57] <ucenik06> ubacave
[13:57] <llutz_> !ops | ucenik05 still spamming
[13:57] <inashdeen> pfifo : tested on skype, sound recorder, ekiga and linphone. all produce similar problem
[13:57] <enbake> schnuffle: ok..thanks..will check and be back
[13:57] <pfifo> inashdeen, is this a USB headset?
[13:58] <inashdeen> pfifo : no, normal jack
[13:58] <pfifo> is it listed in alsamixer?
[13:58] <kpok>  /join #help
[13:58] <enbake> schnuffle: doesnt even start now
[13:58] <enbake> schnuffle: gives error at startup
[13:59] <ucenik05> nez ka da napraam
[13:59] <schnuffle> pastebin the error. How do you start eclipse? Through menu or console. I would start it in the console
[13:59] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:59] <inashdeen> BluesKaj : hi
[13:59] <bmh> Hello all, anyone can give the freeware for discovery the data from formated disk in ubuntu?
[14:00] <llutz_> !info testdisk | bmh photorec from this package
[14:00] <bmh> thanks
[14:01] <iceroot> bmh: if the partition was fully formated you cant recover the data
[14:01] <enbake> schnuffle: started it through console had the vm line wrone..corrected and it has started now
[14:01] <schnuffle> enbake: :) so lets hope it doesn't crash anymore
[14:02] <enbake> schnuffle: ya hope so..as a precautionary measure have removed all other jvms..
[14:02] <bjackman> can anyone suggest why I can't associate and ESSID to my wireless card using iwconfig?
[14:02] <enbake> schnuffle: thanks for the help man..my boss would have kicked my butt..
[14:02] <inashdeen> pfifo : oh well for some very very odd reason, it worked now.i do realise though it will only work IF the earphone is intact
[14:02] <Boreeas> My System Monitor tells me I'm using 2.2 GB of RAM, but if I sum the processes in the processes tab, I only get 1.7 GB. Where does the last 0.5 GB come from?
[14:02] <inashdeen> anyone knows what is the WOIED for cairo egypt?
[14:02] <enbake> schnuffle: i fought with him to install linux
[14:03] <enbake> schnuffle: :)))
[14:03] <iceroot> Boreeas: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[14:03] <xuser1> hi
[14:03] <schnuffle> enbake: so he would have kicked you failing, he should give you more money because of your success :)
[14:03] <xuser1> how can i install gnomebaker in ubuntu 11.10 ?
[14:03] <bmh> Oops, I have got the problem as follow: When I tried to connect my external disk to the Xbox, the Xbox automatic destroy my 500GB disk, than created  and formated a new partition. I need to recovery my photos. Can you tell me how to do it in Ubuntu?
[14:03] <xuser1> i cant find it in software soucres
[14:03] <mode|lemot> !ebox
[14:03] <iceroot> !info gnomebaker
[14:04] <iceroot> xuser1: hm strange, i found it in the repos for 12.04
[14:04] <xuser1> it does not exists in ubu 11.10
[14:04] <enbake> schnuffle: lol..its my first month on my first job..nt expecting a salary and u talkin bout a raise
[14:05] <llutz_> !info gnomebaker  maverick
[14:06] <Boreeas> iceroot: free -m tells me that there are 2.2 GB in use, too, though
[14:06] <schnuffle> enbake: Ooh your first job, then good luck. You will soon learn that business people and logic often doesn't fit together
[14:07] <iceroot> Boreeas: the link will tell you exactly what that means#
[14:07] <iceroot> Boreeas: what you mean with used is the second line of free -m and the first entry there
[14:07] <Boreeas> iceroot: +/- buffers tells me the actual free memory, including buffered, but availlable-for-use memory, no?
[14:08] <iceroot> Boreeas: read the link
[14:08] <schnuffle> enbake: and one thing I have to correct me. Eclipse doesn't consult JAVA_HOME
[14:08] <iceroot> Boreeas: but yes that is correct
[14:09] <enbake> schnuffle: ok..btw can u tell me if installing zram is a good idea?
[14:09] <schnuffle> enbake: No idea what zram is
[14:09] <incorrect> is there a version of vinagre that isn't so devoid of options that you can set the remote screen resolution?
[14:09] <Boreeas> "-/+ buffers/cache:       2239        706" <- 2.2 GB _without_ buffer.
[14:10] <incorrect> why cripple the screen resolution? is it too difficult for someone to set?
[14:10] <Boreeas> 2.6 including buffers
[14:10] <iceroot> Boreeas: again, please read the link, everything explained there
[14:11] <enbake> schnuffle: ok..if interested u can check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZRam
[14:11] <ManDay> Does Ubuntu have a DEVELOPER channel?
[14:11] <ManDay> (Where the UBN developers hang out)
[14:11] <iceroot> ManDay: #ubuntu-devel
[14:11] <iceroot> !alis | ManDay
[14:11] <ManDay> Thank you
[14:12] <schnuffle> enbake: Ahh, if it does its job I can definetly recommend it. We did it by hand for a project using a RAM only partition and that seepds up build a lot
[14:13] <rubyplusplus> Is there a way to see access messages that are asking for a response in Unity?
[14:13] <enbake> schnuffle: right..will jus install and test it at "home" pc..not on this..:)
[14:13] <oles> hi
[14:13] <incorrect> maybe i am being too cool to want to set the remote screen resolution in my rdp client
[14:13] <rubyplusplus> IE when Empathy tells me that someone wants me to approve them?
[14:13] <schnuffle> enbake: virtualization is cheap. For everythin I need to test I setup VMs
[14:13] <Boreeas> iceroot: I did read it. The way I understood it: Ubuntu buffers some RAM (in my case about 400 MB). The second row of free -m tells me how much memory the programs /actually/ use, exluding buffers. That comes out to 2.2 GB for me, but the System Monitor tells me it's 1.7. So, there must be 500 MB somewhere that are neither buffered nor used nor free.
[14:14] <subichan> please, quick question: after installation i saw chinese as listed in my language support window but not checked in the installed language support window (!), so in order to remove it i though "let's install chinese support from the installed language support list and then remove it, and mybe it'll just go away from the main language support window as well". Well, as a result, as I did install the chinese's, now i got three more ite
[14:14] <ManDay> I've got a question for you though: Is it possible to strip the current 11.10 release off most of its features to make a "Minimal Ubuntu 11.10" in that it only offers the fundamental libraries which most (propriatary) software assumes but no actual software on itsself, such as OpenOffice, rhythmbox, etc?
[14:14] <subichan> how do i remove them?
[14:15] <bazhang> !minimal | ManDay better to start here and build up
[14:15] <enbake> schnuffle: well i kept that in mind when i installed 8gig ram on my pc
[14:16] <incorrect> does no one here care that you can't set the vinagre remote desktop screen resolution?
[14:16] <pfifo> !info debootstrap | ManDay
[14:16] <iceroot> Boreeas: i dont use the gui so i dont know i just use top and free
[14:17] <schnuffle> enbake: Fine, my recommendation is: OpenVZ for Linux VMs and KVM for the rest and linux VMs you need special kernels
[14:17] <ManDay> bazhang: Well, either way - I remember problems with being "selecting" in ubuntu, since the dependencies are somewhat tangled up.
[14:17] <ManDay> pfifo: Hm, I'm not quite sure I understand. How is a "basic debian system" "part of ubuntu repositories"?
[14:17] <pfifo> ManDay, ubuntu is debain
[14:18] <zedr> son of debian
[14:18] <llutz_> based on
[14:18] <ManDay> pfifo: ^
[14:18] <ManDay> pfifo: and even then: so what?
[14:18] <llutz_> ManDay: but debootstrap can install ubuntu-systems too
[14:18] <ManDay> pfifo: Would you be so kind make an example of how you think I should use dbootstrap and what it actually does?
[14:19] <pfifo> ManDay, well if your wanting a minimal system, the minimal cd or debootstral is the way to go
[14:19] <ManDay> So it's actually a program which installs a minimal system onto some target of sorts
[14:19] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot ManDay
[14:19] <schnuffle> ManDay: http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap
[14:19] <oles> It seem to be a  bug, after every 2nd reboot my unity panel does not appear in full screen app mode when i move mouse cursor to the left side
[14:19] <pfifo> ManDay, this has much info about the process https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch
[14:20] <ManDay> So what I said was correct, right?
[14:20] <schnuffle> ManDay: Yes
[14:21] <ManDay> Thank you. That name misled me into thinking it would remove ("de") bootstrapping components from an existing system.
[14:21] <ubuntu> !grub
[14:21] <llutz_> ManDay: DEB(ian)ootstrap
[14:22] <schnuffle> ManDay: If you really want to know the details LFS is a nice experience: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
[14:22] <ManDay> llutz_: I realized now
[14:22] <zedr> ManDay: also, Gentoo
[14:22] <ManDay> zedr: That's what I'm on.
[14:22] <Krenair> How do I go about install OpenJDK 7 on Ubuntu 11.04?
[14:22] <Krenair> I'd like to replace Sun's JVM with it
[14:22] <subichan> i'll ask the same question in another way: how do i uninstall languages from language support?
[14:22] <ManDay> llutz_: I also spend a year reading git reflog as   "re-flog"
[14:22] <subichan> even manually would do
[14:23] <ManDay> Wondering what that could mean....
[14:23] <llutz_> ManDay: :D
[14:23] <xangua> Krenair: upgrade to oneiric¿
[14:23] <xangua> subichan: you can use synaptic instead
[14:23] <Krenair> xangua, no?
[14:23] <Krenair> I want to install OpenJDK 7, not upgrade my OS
[14:23] <schnuffle> Krenair: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Java/Installation
[14:23] <subichan> xangua: wouldn't know what to look for!
[14:23] <bjackman> could anyone suggest why I can't associate an ESSID with my wireless card using iwconfig?
[14:24] <schnuffle> oops its german
[14:24] <Boreeas> How can I quit a screen without terminating it?
[14:24] <Krenair> schnuffle, danke
[14:24] <inashdeen> hi, where can i chat on ekiga with real people. wanna test my ekiga
[14:24] <schnuffle> Krenair: fine I hit a german :)
[14:24] <Krenair> no, I'm english
[14:24] <No> Como faço para entrar chat brasileiro?
[14:24] <Krenair> I know a tiny bit of german
[14:25] <bazhang> !pt | no
[14:25] <kkt49> hi
[14:25] <No> Como faço para entrar no chat brasileiro?
[14:25] <ManDay> How is debootstrap any different from just extracting a pre-made Archive (s.a. gentoo's stage3) into that directory?
[14:25] <pfifo> ManDay, thats almost what it does, it just downloads it for you
[14:25] <Guest25916> COMO FAÇO PARA ENTRAR NO CHAT BRASILEIRO/
[14:25] <Guest25916> ?
[14:26] <Guest25916> POR FAVOR, ME RESPONDAM
[14:26] <schnuffle> Krenair: Here's a thread about OpenJDK: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1701131
[14:26] <FloodBot1> Guest25916: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:26] <Your_Dog> amen
[14:26] <Guest25916> EM
[14:26] <rubyplusplus> Seems like viewing these types of alert messages should be simpler than it seem sto be.
[14:26] <bazhang>  /join #ubuntu-br Guest25916
[14:26] <ManDay> !brasilian | Guest25916
[14:26] <Guest25916> tank you
[14:26] <ManDay> well, perhaps not
[14:26] <xangua> and no caps next time please Guest25916
[14:27] <Krenair> schnuffle, hm, I can't add ppa:dlecan/openjdk :/
[14:27] <Krenair> Error: can't find signing_key_fingerprint at https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~dlecan/+archive/openjdk
[14:27] <schnuffle> Krenair: What version of ubuntu are you running LTS 10.04?
[14:27] <Krenair> 11.04
[14:27] <incorrect> oh how funny, by crippling the vinagre client the help documents tell you that you can do things, but then the functions are missing
[14:27] <bazhang> Krenair, with what command, what version of ubuntu
[14:27] <schnuffle> hmm
[14:27] <bazhang> !addppa | Krenair
[14:27] <Krenair> bazhang, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:dlecan/openjdk
[14:28] <alejandro> alguien de colombia
[14:28] <bazhang> Krenair, whats the error
 Error: can't find signing_key_fingerprint at https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~dlecan/+archive/openjdk
[14:29] <ManDay> To be clear about this: Ubuntu is just Debian with different repositories? So using debootstrap I set up a debian system and point aptitude to the canonical repos. Correct?
[14:29] <schnuffle> ubuntu Krenair: https://launchpad.net/~openjdk/+archive/ppa
[14:29] <xangua> ManDay: no, you Do Not mix repositories
[14:29] <ManDay> xangua: =
[14:29] <box> hello
[14:29] <ManDay> ?
[14:30] <ManDay> xangua: I did not say mix. I meant replace the debian reps to which debian defaults with ubuntu reps.
[14:30] <schnuffle> ManDay: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/01/debootstrap-minimal-debian-ubuntu-installation/
[14:30] <xangua> ManDay: that is mixing repositories.....
[14:30] <bazhang> ManDay, nope dont do that
[14:31] <Krenair> http://pastebin.com/9QYUtLeS Tried sudo add-apt-repository ppa:openjdk && sudo apt-get update
[14:31] <pfifo> ManDay, ubuntu's debootstrap is tuned to use ubuntus repos and packages (it could install debain if you wanted to though)
[14:32] <ManDay> pfifo: So how does that fit? I've just been told I would *not mix* repositories.
[14:33] <bazhang> ppa:dlecan/dlecan   <--- Krenair try that instead
[14:33] <Rosha> hey guys ! when I want install digikam/virtualbox/vlc/kaffeine or something like these i have too many packages for installing ! but in debian these pkgs installed with maximmum 20 mb ....
[14:33] <pfifo> ManDay, well you wouldnt be mixing, you would either debootstrap an ubuntu system OR debootstrap a debain system
[14:34] <ManDay> pfifo: Oh, debootstrap downloads an UBUNTU system!
[14:34] <pfifo> yeah
[14:34] <ManDay> Do you happen to know where I can find that tarball which debootstrap downloads for extraction of an ubuntu base system?!
[14:34] <ManDay> "Ubuntu Stage3" sounds good :)
[14:34] <pfifo> ManDay, its not a tarball it downloads like 50 deb files
[14:34] <ManDay> Stag4, rather
[14:35] <ManDay> pfifo: Hm, I see.
[14:35] <schnuffle> Krenair: strange it works for me: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:openjdk/ppa
[14:35] <ManDay> I'm asking because I don't have an ubuntu Host system
[14:35] <pfifo> ManDay, but you can find the deb's in the archive (forget the URL though)
[14:36] <Krenair> Now I'm trying to figure out how to remove this bad repo I added >_>
[14:36] <incorrect> does anyone know how to get back to a 1*4 layout for my virtual desktops? i found the 2*2 irritating
[14:36] <pfifo> ManDay, then start with the minimal install cd insted
[14:36] <chroot> hi, i am configuring samba in ubuntu, i want to login samba with passwd everytime in windows, how?
[14:36] <ManDay> hm, I guess installing those debs manually (doing what debootstrap does for me) isn't all that foolproof though...+
[14:36] <pfifo> ManDay, you NEED dpkg to install a deb, you cant just extract
[14:36] <alishah> does anyone uses Sublime Text 2 for ubuntu? i wanna know which folder to  install color schemes to
[14:37] <schnuffle> Krenair: Could be due to amd64 platform, but I see it is supported. To delete it just go to /etc/apt/sources.list.d and delete the repo file
[14:37] <sgs2usr> Which grub file do I use to edit?
[14:38] <ManDay> pfifo: Minimal CD is kind of the same problem. The minmal CD is just an installer - It's even more difficult to turn that into a customized liveCD. I guess the easiest thing to do for a non-ubuntu host system is still using the normal LiveCD image and strip it off all its packages, don't you think?
[14:38] <ManDay> (latter i can do in a chroot)
[14:38] <ManDay> or do you suggest that also works with the minimal cd?
[14:39] <ManDay> (I don't think so)
[14:39] <schnuffle> sgs2usr: /etc/default/grub? maybe
[14:39] <pfifo> ManDay, no, i would boot a normal livecd and then download debootstrap into the live enviroment, once your chroot is ready to go, you can chroot from gentoo
[14:39] <sgs2usr> That's auto generated rite?
[14:39] <schnuffle> sgs2usr: no that the file which will generate /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[14:40] <ManDay> pfifo: Sounds like a plan
[14:40] <Krenair> Okay, so
[14:40] <sgs2usr> Ahhhhh.....got it! Thanks
[14:40] <Krenair> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:openjdk/ppa && sudo apt-get update
[14:40] <Krenair> Then I should be able to install OpenJDK 7?
[14:40] <AaronCampbell> I went to install tweetdeck, and it looks like they're doing away with their Air app in favor of a desktop version for Mac and Windows.  Does anyone have any suggestions on a twitter app that handles multiple accounts well and most importantly is linux-friendly?
[14:40] <schnuffle> Krenair: Yep
[14:40] <ManDay> pfifo: Will casper just work out of the box?
[14:41] <pfifo> ManDay, yes and no
[14:41] <ManDay> Or does it require special taking care of to set it up in the manner it works on the (persistent) livecd
[14:41] <Krenair> http://pastebin.com/v3feqMy3 :(
[14:41] <ManDay> pfifo: "Yes and no"?
[14:41] <sgs2usr> okay.found it.do I need to issue grub update?
[14:42] <pfifo> ManDay, as long as you are actully running it from a readonly media it works out of the box, but if detects that its a RW media it will skip its scripts
[14:42]  * rar = DolGuldur = Joska = Rarillo = SocialMedia = EC-ASP = Buscamina = MEGA- = SPEDRO = chenon = [DieSeL]
[14:43] <ManDay> pfifo: So if I install the image on an USB stick it will NOT work as it works with the liveCD because casper will not behave as it does when I install the vanilla LiveCD image onto usb?
[14:43] <schnuffle> Krenair: the package is called openjdk-7-jdk or openjdk-7-jre
[14:43] <Krenair> No packages found matching openjdk-7*.
[14:44] <oCean> rar: why would you post that here? Please stay on topic
[14:44] <rar> sorry, it was an /ame
[14:44] <oCean> rar: yeah, don't use that here
[14:45] <schnuffle> Krenair: I just added the repo to test it, searching for openjdk gave me both versions 6 and 7
[14:45] <rar> ok oCean, thanks for adverting
[14:46] <pfifo> ManDay, no, casper will activate in that case, if you install casper onto an installed system, youll have to tweak it to get the desired effect
[14:46] <Krenair> schnuffle, it does look like openjdk didn't release anything for natty apart from icedtea-web
[14:47] <ManDay> pfifo: Casper is already part of the canonical initrd, no?
[14:48] <ManDay> It must be, I customized the livecd, updated the kernel and replaced the liveCD's initrd with that of the kernel, and casper still works.
[14:48] <schnuffle> Krenair: Aaah, I forgot that i'm on 11.10 which has the packages
[14:48] <pfifo> ManDay, no, not by default, you have to specifaccly install casper and rebuild the initrd
[14:49] <Krenair> schnuffle, so 11.04 users aren't allowed to install openjdk7 from the repos?
[14:49] <ManDay> I'm trying to understand how casper bootstraps and knows whether it sits on an usb stick or on a HD. Latter can obviously not be the criterion since HDD and usb stick are equivalent. It must have somethign to do with detecting that there is a squashfs arround
[14:49] <ManDay> pfifo: How come it works with the initrd of the canonical kernel, then?
[14:50] <pfifo> ManDay, you dont need to have casper in the initrd, the scripts are still run by upstart, just you can get somethings done earlier in the boot process
[14:50] <pfifo> ManDay, but if you were doing a netboot youd need casper in initrd
[14:52] <ManDay> pfifo: "The scripts"? Someone has to mount the squashfs 'n all that, no? How come the canonical upstart already does that?!
[14:52] <schnuffle> Krenair: I seems like dlecan which did a backport to natty moved along to oneiric
[14:52] <ManDay> I thought THAT was the very job of casper.
[14:52] <Krenair> Is it possible to get the oneiric package working on natty?
[14:53] <pfifo> ManDay, your probably best just looking at the scripts yourself :)
[14:53] <schnuffle> Krenair: It should be as it has been done already, but could be some work
[14:55] <ManDay> pfifo: Okay. I just want to make sure I don't go all the way of installing into a chroot from a minimal CD, squashing that chroot and setting it up on an usb stick - only to eventually find out that I need to complicatedly configure casper in both the chroot and the initrd, which I would also have to assemble manually...
[14:55] <ManDay> (as opposed to building down the livecd which already has a working casper-setup by stripping it off its packages)
[14:57] <wh1zz0> Hi guys, I know that usng samba I can connect to my ubuntu shared folder, but what I want to know is, what if I do not have a server running on my ubuntu machine? Can I still access from windows running the \ip command from win?
[14:57] <Krenair> schnuffle, I've added "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openjdk/ppa/ubuntu oneiric main" to the software sources, but apt-get update fails :/
[14:57] <pfifo> ManDay, install casper in the chroot and your all set, it automatically rebulds the initramfs during installation and will run what it needs to run for what ever type of boot you perform
[14:57] <wh1zz0> Secondly, how do I access windows from ubuntu machine?
[14:57] <Krenair> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/openjdk/ppa/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[14:58] <iceroot> Krenair: why a ppa for openjdk?
[14:58] <chris_> my name
[14:58] <schnuffle> iceroot: he wants to have v7
[14:58] <Krenair> iceroot, what?
[14:58] <ManDay> pfifo: If that's true, then it explains why my initrd from the updated kernel works. Casper must have messed with it torugh some post-installation hook of sorts
[14:58] <iceroot> Krenair: what is not clear about my message?
[14:59] <Krenair> iceroot: You're asking 'why a ppa for openjdk?'
[14:59] <oCean> Buscamina: stop cycling through your nicks please, we've warned you about the nickspam before
[14:59] <Krenair> What is clear about your message?
[14:59] <pfifo> ManDay, well if you had casper installed and then updated the kernel, the kernel installation rebuilds the initramfs too
[14:59] <schnuffle> Krenair: I told him the answer already
[15:00] <Buscamina> oCean nickspam (?) (?) (?)
[15:00] <PrototypeX29A> hi
[15:00] <ManDay> pfifo: I was under the impression the initrd would be  shipped with each kernel as-is in tarball format
[15:00] <oCean> !nickspam > Buscamina
[15:00] <AdvoWork> on an ubuntu client, its having wireless issues. its connected to wireless and working well, but it wont connect to any others. It lists them, but when you click on them to connect to it, it cycles as if its trying to, but wont, and then re-asks for the password(which is correct) any ideas please?
[15:00] <iceroot> schnuffle: v7 is in the repos
[15:00] <pfifo> ManDay, no, there is a program to build initramfs for your system
[15:00] <iceroot> Krenair: you are using a ppa for installing openjdk, but why? openjdk is in the normal ubuntu-repos
[15:00] <schnuffle> iceroot: for 11.04? I don't think so
[15:01] <iceroot> schnuffle: http://ppa.launchpad.net/openjdk/ppa/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/source/Sources  says 11.10
[15:01] <Krenair> iceroot: 11.10 is not 11.04
[15:01] <Krenair> iceroot: I can't find any working openjdk package, especially not in the normal ubuntu-repos
[15:01] <iceroot> Krenair: oneiric ? 11.10
[15:01] <ManDay> pfifo: I see. Thank you. I'm lucky that someone like you were arround. You don't always find people who know so much about the fundamentals here ;)
[15:01] <Amdpc> Hi...is there any sms sending (via internet) application available ?
[15:01] <Krenair> iceroot: no, natty. 11.04
[15:01] <PrototypeX29A> since my last dist-upgrade to 10.11 i cannot login anymore. During login it says "Ubuntu is running in low-graphics mode."  Maybe it is linked to the old kernel version i am using, because with newer kernels I'll get a blank screen
[15:01] <iceroot> Krenair: but the ppa is pointing to 11.10
[15:01] <Krenair> iceroot: I am aware of this.
[15:01] <Krenair> It's deliberate.
[15:02] <iceroot> !backports | Krenair
[15:02] <Krenair> Someone decided that there'd be openjdk7 for 11.10 but not 11.04, I'm trying to get it to install anyway
[15:02] <iceroot> Krenair: have a look there should be better then a ppa
[15:02] <html> Netinstall Image  ,  whats this mean?
[15:03] <iceroot> Krenair: hm does not seem that there is v7 in the backports
[15:03] <iceroot> Krenair: what is not working with openjdk v6?
[15:03] <slugzzz> Okay... so, I want to make a usb livedisk of the latest debian build... but, of course, the livedisk creator bundled with ubuntu does not support non-ubuntu OS's... can someone give me a suggestion of what to use?
[15:04] <iceroot> slugzzz: #debian
[15:04] <Krenair> iceroot: What? I haven't tried openjdk6
[15:04] <slugzzz> iceroot ... I'm using Ubuntu to make the live disk.
[15:04] <iceroot> Krenair: and why you need then v7 instead of v6?
[15:04] <Krenair> I'm on sun's JDK 6 at the moment, want to update to openjdk7
[15:04] <iceroot> slugzzz: dd should work
[15:04] <Krenair> Because v7 is the latest, v6 is not
[15:05] <iceroot> Krenair: latest != best
[15:05] <slugzzz> icdroot dd?
[15:05] <iceroot> slugzzz: dd the iso to the stick
[15:05] <iceroot> Krenair: i would suggest to just use openjdk v6
[15:05] <Krenair> iceroot: I honestly don't care about which release you think is the best.
[15:05] <iceroot> Krenair: then fight with your ppas
[15:06] <slugzzz> iceroot, syntax? I've never dd'ed before.
[15:07] <iceroot> slugzzz: sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX  where sdX is your stick
[15:07] <iceroot> slugzzz: should work with debian isos
[15:07] <iceroot> slugzzz: be sure to use the correct /dev/sdX
[15:08] <iceroot> Krenair: ubuntu 11.10 is the latest, why using 10.04
[15:08] <iceroot> Krenair: or better, ubuntu 12.04 is even newer then 11.10
[15:08] <rar> ok
[15:08] <RaTTuS|BIG> also use conv=sync,noerror bs=1M
[15:08] <Krenair> iceroot: Ubuntu 11.10 doesn't allow for the classic gnome 2 desktop.
[15:09] <Krenair> iceroot: Ubuntu 12.04 hasn't been released yet.
[15:09] <iceroot> [16:05]   iceroot | Krenair: latest != best
[15:09] <Krenair> iceroot: Ubuntu 11.10 doesn't allow for the classic gnome 2 desktop.
[15:09] <iceroot> Krenair: so why using v7? its even not stable
[15:09] <Krenair> OpenJDK 7 isn't stable?
[15:10] <iceroot> Krenair: if i am correct the stable java release from oracle and openjdk is v6
[15:11] <iceroot> Krenair: ah as it seems openjdk 7 is the current release version which means something like stable
[15:11] <iceroot> Krenair: so if you need specific things from v7 i would suggest to use that version but i bet you dont need v7 functions
[15:11] <oalders> hi folks. i see that "service networking" does not have a restart option in natty -- just stop and start. what's the best way to restart after adding a new ip to /etc/network/interfaces?
[15:12] <llutz_> oalders: sudo ifdown -a && sudo ifup -a
[15:12] <extor> I want to setup an ubuntu VPS with xvnc but there's no guides detailing it
[15:12] <oalders> llutz_: thx.  :)
[15:13] <compdoc> vnc and vps are two differnt things
[15:13] <extor> I know they are
[15:14] <compdoc> you have a server in the cloud?
[15:14] <extor> I want to fix up an OpenVZ VPS running ubuntu with xvnc so I can run X remotely
[15:14] <kinky> oalders: or use /etc/init.d/networking restart
[15:14] <extor> yes I do
[15:14] <compdoc> oh, X. I know nothing of that
[15:14] <compdoc> I set up vnc a lot tho
[15:14] <extor> X, KDE, Gnome whatever
[15:14] <oalders> kinky: i'm seeing "Usage: /etc/init.d/networking {start|stop}"
[15:15] <webnet> extor, are you talking about like running a remote desktop session to your vps?
[15:15] <extor> webnet, absolutely yes
[15:15] <extor> A detachable session
[15:15] <webnet> extor, Ok. gotcha. firstly does your vps have a DE installed?
[15:15] <kinky> oalders: if you're confident about it, you could edit the init-script manually to implement restart again
[15:15] <extor> I already know about ssh -X user@host where I can run stuff like firefox etc
[15:15] <extor> DE?
[15:16] <webnet> Desktop environment
[15:16] <pfifo> webnet, its easiet to just use X forwarding via ssh
[15:16] <extor> No I don't think so but I could install that I guess
[15:16] <pfifo> extor, my favorite program to run via ssh is xfce4-panel
[15:17] <extor> pfifo, I want xcvnc not remote -X
[15:17] <extor> I want detachable/resumable sessions
[15:17] <oalders> kinky: great! i hadn't thought to look in there.  i see the option is deprecated, but still enabled.  :) appreciate the help
[15:17] <webnet> pfifo, ok oyeah im not entirely sure how to do what he is asking. haha. i kind of assumed he need a DE on the server end. he doesnt?
[15:18] <pfifo> webnet, for ssh no, for vnc yeah
[15:19] <pfifo> extor, this is the docs you looking for https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[15:20] <kinky> oalders: no prob =)
[15:23] <html> x86-64 CPU  wHATS THIS MEAN?
[15:23] <compdoc> 64 bit
[15:23] <compdoc> nice to have
[15:23] <compdoc> most are these days
[15:23] <MonkeyDust> yes
[15:23] <webnet> html, it means you have a 64 bit mobo and processor
[15:23] <X0Rc0re> http://tinychat.com/hacktheplanet
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> \o/
[15:24] <X0Rc0re> LOL
[15:24] <X0Rc0re> oops
[15:24] <html> like amd ?
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> no, amd id the manufacturer
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> s
[15:25] <AaronCampbell> Is there a way to stick the launcher in unity to a different monitor?  Or possibly to the right side of a set of monitors?
[15:25] <bindi> AaronCampbell: no :D
[15:25] <bindi> better luck next release
[15:26] <MonkeyDust> AaronCampbell  there's a PPA for myUnity, a config tool, maybe you can use that
[15:26] <AaronCampbell> wow...really?  I assumed I was missing something obvious...there's no built-in way to move it?!?
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> AaronCampbell  in 12.04
[15:27] <webnet> god blees unity may it retire early and never rear its ugly unusable head again...
[15:28] <html> webnet,  thanks
[15:28] <AaronCampbell> My left monitor is WAY to the left and just used to keep an eye on IRC, etc.  My other 3 monitors are right in front of me.  It's a REAL pain havin it that far left
[15:28] <webnet> AaronCampbell, yeah in IMO Unity is a worthless hunk of unusable un configurable piece of useless bloatware crap. i hate it
[15:28] <webnet> html, np.
[15:28] <AaronCampbell> MonkeyDust: how will it be done in 12.04?  Through myUnity?
[15:29] <MonkeyDust> AaronCampbell  yes
[15:29] <html> so what s  i686 mean?
[15:29] <webnet> i686 is your processor type html
[15:29] <bindi> html: have you tried googling?
[15:29] <webnet> specifically the archetecture html
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> AaronCampbell  http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-12-04-LTS-Features-Unity-Configuration-Tool-239928.shtml
[15:30] <webnet> html, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=i686
[15:30] <webnet> html, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=64+Bit
[15:30] <RaTTuS|BIG> !google
[15:31] <html> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07OEKw-YL8k&feature=g-all-c&context=G2ce8ae5FAAAAAAAAGAA                   fixing unity and other things
[15:31] <YeeP> Anyone have any experience with virtualbox-ore that might be able to help?
[15:31] <oCean> webnet: please don't use lmgtfy here
[15:31] <webnet> oCean, why not?
[15:31] <html> RaTTuS|BIG,  what?
[15:32] <oCean> webnet: it's rude, and not acceptable here
[15:32] <webnet> oCean, how is it rude?
[15:32] <andygraybeal> people are so mean about their feelings towards unity.  it makes me sad.
[15:32] <oCean> webnet: I'm not about to discuss our channel rules here, you're welcome to /join #ubuntu-ops
[15:33] <MonkeyDust> YeeP  i use vbox
[15:34] <YeeP> cool....
[15:34] <MonkeyDust> ...
[15:34] <YeeP> I have the latest version rolling. Trying to put ReactOS on there, no matter what I do, no luck
[15:34] <llutz_> YeeP: #vbox
[15:35] <YeeP> ReactOS people blaming it on "VT-X" of the new version
[15:35] <MonkeyDust> YeeP  in vbox? is it a live cd?
[15:35] <YeeP> nope, iso file
[15:35] <MonkeyDust> live iso?
[15:35] <MonkeyDust> or installer?
[15:35] <YeeP> llutz_ have been there already, all they do is blame it on the new version of virtualbox
[15:35] <YeeP> live iso
[15:35] <Dreamscape> hey all how can i run both wifi (for internet) and wired (for vnc) in the same ubuntu box?
[15:35] <llutz_> YeeP: nice, but how is your problem ubuntu-related?
[15:36] <html> YeeP,   it that a version simular like windows? but its linux /byniry
[15:36] <YeeP> llutz_: just looking for someone that has worked through similar issues. Not blaming any problems on ubuntu
[15:36] <YeeP> it is similar to windows, no linux binaries
[15:36] <llutz_> !ot | YeeP then this is the wrong channel for you
[15:36] <MonkeyDust> YeeP  #reactos Channel is open.
[15:37] <html> YeeP,  i could met u there if u like?
[15:37] <XOk3> hi. where do i put commands that should be executed immediately after startup?
[15:38] <YeeP> html, I am way down with that. I am in no way blaming this on the OS
[15:38] <YeeP> Just looking for similar ubuntu users that may have worked through this
[15:38] <pfifo> XOk3, /etc/rc.local is the first standard place
[15:38] <enigma2009> hi
[15:38] <XOk3> pfifo: ty
[15:39] <webnet> html, may i pm you?
[15:39] <html> YeeP,  i just have some questions and ubuntu rules say if we want to talk we "Must " take it else where if not on topic
[15:39] <mkjackson_mobile> hey folks, I gotta head to a friends house later today to see if they have maleware/viruses on their WindowsXP machine. There are mixed opinions online about what to do, thought I would ask you guys what you thought about linux based maleware/virus scanners (I'm running a persistent USB install)
[15:40] <html> webnet,  sure
[15:40] <none__> damn, my kitten died last night
[15:40] <blind> yayyyy
[15:40] <blind> thanks to lindsay!
[15:40] <mkjackson_mobile> none__: :( sorry to hear it
[15:40] <none__> does anyone have anything online to keep me busy for a bit
[15:40] <html> mkjackson_mobile,   well yes
[15:41] <html> mkjackson_mobile,  i know of a few
[15:41] <mkjackson_mobile> html: what would you suggest? I was thinking of malewarebytes on wine and avast but I've never used any
[15:41] <oCean> none__: this channel is for tech ubuntu support only, /join #ubuntu-offtopic for social chat
[15:43] <none__> sorry
[15:43] <html> none__,  mmm you can help the linux community out?
[15:45] <mkjackson_mobile> html: any suggestions?
[15:45] <mkjackson_mobile> advice?
[15:45] <webnet> mkjackson_mobile, um you can use avira antivir to scan, avast, bit defender(you will have to build that from sources) or you could use the linux stand by ClamAV with the gui (ClamTK IIRC)
[15:46] <gem_> im new to ubuntu, like today, and smuxi - I want to connect to irc.domain.com - how do i do that please?
[15:46] <RaTTuS|BIG> !ot | gem_
[15:46] <webnet> you just did :) gem_
[15:46] <pfifo> gem_, /server irc.doamin.net
[15:47] <incorrect> does anyone know how to get back to a 1*4 layout for my virtual desktops?
[15:47] <webnet> pm me. this sinty on topic gem_
[15:48] <rajeshm> hai
[15:48] <mkjackson_mobile> webnet: bit defender looks like it has the ticket, have you used it before? does it work as well as malewarebytes?
[15:49] <html> mkjackson_mobile,  well im still here, just trying to get the links
[15:49] <incorrect> am i the only one who wants a 1*4 virtual desktop layout?
[15:49] <webnet> mkjackson_mobile, yeah i have. its pretty good. there is a windows version too btw.
[15:50] <html> mkjackson_mobile,  do you have a flash drive(S)  and how big are they?
[15:50] <compdoc> correct, incorrect
[15:50] <webnet> mkjackson_mobile, I have tried using mbam in wine before, but it doesnt work. for some reasin as soon as you start a scxan the gui breaks and you are stuck in an infinite loop of error dialogs
[15:51] <mkjackson_mobile> I'm running a persistent install with ubuntu 11.10, 32gb flash, 8GB root 10GB home, 8 GB windows accessible
[15:52] <LiNuX`sup> I added a launcher to cairo dock and it dissapeared.... uninstalled, reinstalled and it won't open... folder does not exist in home directory (hidden files enabled) Help?
[15:52] <freekiss> hello
[15:53] <dev_> hello.. I am using Ubuntu 11.10 version, how can I change theme here ???
[15:53] <glebaron> I have some questions about ubuntu hardware certification that I hope someone can answer.
[15:54] <jpds> glebaron: Probably best to ask in #ubuntu-testing
[15:54] <freekiss> what do you what to change
[15:54] <glebaron> jpds, thank you.
[15:54] <freekiss> what do you what to change
[15:54] <dev_> i want to change theme
[15:54] <SunTsu> dev_: _which_ theme?
[15:55] <freekiss> what say ps aux?
[15:55] <mintux> I got this Err http://security.ubuntu.com natty-security/main i386 Packages
[15:55] <mintux>   401  Authorization Required
[15:55] <e66> does anyone know of any partition editor that can resize extended partion?? I
[15:55] <freekiss> gparted
[15:55] <SunTsu> e66: (g|q)parted
[15:56] <LiNuX`sup> e66 gparted I believe it's called
[15:56] <e66> gparted, cant
[15:56] <e66> I have just tested
[15:56] <freekiss> yes
[15:56] <freekiss> gparted is very easy to use
[15:57] <incorrect> yay!! 1x4 desktop layout
[15:57] <freekiss> it's include on ubuntu
[15:57] <e66> freekiss: I know. I use at all time.
[15:57] <OerHeks> e66 use gparted from a live cd, the disk must not be in use.
[15:57] <freekiss> ok
[15:57] <incorrect> i can't tell you how happy not having 2x2 makes me
[15:57] <e66> OerHeks: I have used it from Live cd. 10.04 live cd
[15:58] <e66> Its about resizign extended partition.
[15:58] <webnet> dev_ are you using unity?
[15:58] <webnet> or gnome3
[15:58] <freekiss> webnet ==>yes
[15:58] <freekiss> unity2
[15:58] <webnet> freekiss, were you dev_ and changed ur nick?
[15:59] <e66> First I free some space by resizing a logical volume. then I need to resize the extended partition. Its the whole partition that holds all the logical volumes. Then I need to add spare spaces to my primary partition. Thats the idea.
[15:59] <freekiss> i'm to linuxtrack
[15:59] <freekiss> ;)
[15:59] <oCean> what?
[15:59] <Joint> LoL
[15:59] <Joint> ;)
[16:00] <fschuindt1> guys
[16:00] <Joint> yeah?
[16:00] <webnet> freekiss, lemme check something really quick... anyone know if unity supports gtk themes?
[16:00] <fschuindt1> I can't find how I start the compizconfig-settings-manager. I'm on xfce4 ubuntu 11.10
[16:00] <webnet> it is a spin off of gnome so i suspect it might?
[16:01] <reihu> fschuindt1, "ccsm"?
[16:01] <freekiss> yes
[16:01] <e66> why my usb stick is always readonly everytime I attach. It needs sudo to copy. how to fix it?
[16:01] <resonantsky> hi :]
[16:01] <freekiss> i work with many gtk
[16:01] <oCean> !who | freekiss
[16:02] <freekiss> you can convert rpm to deb with alien
[16:02] <fschuindt1> reihu: Oh, thanks man. Sorry about that.
[16:02] <reihu> fschuindt1, you're welcome
[16:02] <fschuindt1> :)
[16:02] <oCean> freekiss: alien is not supported
[16:03] <freekiss> oCean==>on ubuntu, no probleme with alien
[16:03] <airtonix> freekiss: yet
[16:03] <resonantsky> can anyone give me a hand with synaptic packet manager? it disappears logging 'std::out_of_range'
[16:03] <oCean> freekiss: it might not be a problem in some cases, but it is NOT supported in our channels
[16:04] <freekiss> ok
[16:04] <resonantsky> sp, package manager
[16:04] <pfifo> so I can install libc rpm with alien? im so trying this
[16:04] <llutz_> e66: what filesystem on the stick?
[16:04] <ikonia> pfifo: don't do that
[16:04] <ikonia> pfifo: that is very very very very bad
[16:05] <theadmin> pfifo: Woah now, libc is a CRITICAL system component, NEVER use alien with those
[16:05] <e66> llutz_: /dev/sdd1 on /media/usb1 type vfat (rw,noexec,nodev,sync,noatime,nodiratime)
[16:05] <ikonia> never use alien - full stop, core packages like libc/binutils etc, never ever consider it
[16:05] <pfifo> this sgould go as good as that sidegrade to squeeze i tried
[16:05] <ikonia> pfifo: don't do it
[16:05] <airtonix> pfifo: it almost as bad as breaking the grammatical rule of using i before e even after c
[16:05] <f46607> i have a problem, ive install compiz but when i enable it, window borders disappear... pl0x help.
[16:06] <llutz_> e66: if you mount manually, use uid/gid/umast options
[16:06] <reihu> f46607, start ccsm and enable window decorations
[16:06] <n4cht> f46607; you need to enable window decorations in compizconfig-settings manager.
[16:06] <e66> llutz_: No. It mounts automatically. I use Kubuntu. I jsut see the popup and select open with dolphin
[16:06] <f46607> window decorations ar enabled.
[16:06] <n4cht> reihu beat me to it.
[16:07] <YeeP> ok, I have a real ubuntu question:  I would like to run a fresh install on my already setup dual boot system. It is running grub2, and I just want to replace the linux side without loosing everything.  Anyone know where I can learn more about this?
[16:07] <f46607> same problem
[16:07] <YeeP> just get a fresh 11.10 in there..
[16:07] <resonantsky> YeeP: which version do you want to upgrade from?
[16:07] <DemonWitch> i try to run wicd-curses and i get this error: http://dpaste.com/674277/ . how to fix it?
[16:08] <n4cht> f46607; have you tried selecting compiz as your window manager with fusion icon? (typically, doing that is when you find out that window borders went bye-bye, but it doesn't hurt to check)
[16:08] <html> mkjackson_mobile,   u there?
[16:08] <Anomie21> Unity problem #25: http://i.imgur.com/stKfr.jpg
[16:08] <mkjackson_mobile> html: yep
[16:09] <mkjackson_mobile> sorry, workin on something else
[16:09] <oCean> Anomie21: don't post that offtopic nonsense here
[16:09] <YeeP> resonantsky: I was on 11.04, but there are many things installed I no longer use. Was thinking it might be nice to just have a clean 11.10 instal
[16:09] <YeeP> or possibly wait for 12.04 and install it fresh
[16:10] <Anomie21> oCean: How is that off-topic?
[16:10] <YeeP> resonantsky: I am using 11.10 right now, so I dont really need to upgrade
[16:10] <theadmin> !find netris
[16:11] <spider> is anyone else experiencing the update manager opening by itself instead of using an icon in the tray?
[16:11] <theadmin> ubottu: Thanks.
[16:11] <rar> !Help
[16:11] <resonantsky> Yeep ok, you should have no problems with it then...
[16:11] <walid> hello!
[16:11] <resonantsky> i just proved its possible run an upgrade install from 10.04 and have it work... :)
[16:11] <walid> what is the command to open the explorer/finder?
[16:11] <theadmin> walid: nautilus
[16:12] <walid> theadmin: ty!
[16:12] <oCean> Anomie21: this is for tech support questions only. If you have a question, describe the issue detailed in single line. If you came to rant or joke, go somewhere else
[16:12] <n4cht> YeeP; i finally did a logical partition setup myself last night with a clean install of 11.10 so i could have a /home partition without being limited by the 4 partition total, and i gotta say, a fresh install is very very nice.  :)
[16:13] <spider> anyone using gnome-fallback?
[16:14] <MonkeyDust> resonantsky  share the procedure with us, for future reference
[16:14] <compdoc> I am on a server
[16:14] <compdoc> with vnc
[16:14] <YeeP> n4cht: I would agree with that statement. I am not sure if that is an old windows user thought process, but I believe it
[16:14] <walid> nautilus installed and running
[16:14] <walid> thanks!
[16:14] <spider> compdoc, gnome-fallback on server?
[16:14] <n4cht> just a head's up for everyone: #ubuntu-offtopic is a great place to discuss stuff that doesn't fall under the strict banner of 'support'.  :)
[16:14] <compdoc> yeah
[16:15] <compdoc> well, its Ubuntu Desktop, running as a server
[16:15] <pfifo> ikonia, theadmin ok i installed glibc 2.2.5-45 i386 from redhat 7.3 using alien and dpkg --force-all -i.... every single command i run is greating a segfault
[16:15] <compdoc> cuz thats how I roll
[16:15] <spider> does the update manager window open by itself?
[16:15] <resonantsky> MonkeyDust, depending on disty, adding the apt line deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu oneiric to synaptc and allowing an upgrade worked for me
[16:15] <theadmin> pfifo: You WERE told not to do it. Now go reinstall your system, you just broke everything.
[16:15] <compdoc> it does
[16:15] <Tech-1> lol
[16:15] <html> http://portableapps.com/apps
[16:16] <spider> any ideas on how to prevent that and get the tray icon back?
[16:16] <compdoc> but I tend to use ssh to run apt-get
[16:16] <resonantsky> MonkeyDust: after that the previous disty became unstable, moved on to booting the livecd and running the upgrade
[16:16] <llutz_> pfifo: stupid people do stupid things
[16:16] <compdoc> spider, hmm, dont think Ive ever seen the tray icon
[16:16] <overclucker> don't be too hard on him, he just learned for himself
[16:16] <spider> its a red wheel I think
[16:16] <resonantsky> MonkeyDust: basically adding the standard repo for 11.10 to an older repo 10.04 and then simply allowing a one time update/upgrade and then moving to the upgrade install from the live cd
[16:16] <spider> it was in early versions of Ubuntu
[16:16] <MonkeyDust> resonantsky  how did you upgrade an existing installation using the live cd?
[16:17] <resonantsky> MonkeyDust: I added the first ubuntu repo and did an update/upgrade via synaptic
[16:17] <n4cht> pfifo, i hope you have an ubuntu usb stick or cd laying around. :|
[16:17] <resonantsky> MonkeyDust: then I booted the live cd and did the upgrade install
[16:17] <pfifo> n4cht, im on a livecd
[16:18] <WhiteHorse> I want to have a lightweight installation of Ubuntu 11.10 in Virtualbox running on windows to setup a ruby development environment... how much memory should I allocate to the virtual machine?
[16:18] <resonantsky> MonkeyDust: its tricky because you have accept its a once off thing, you have to finish the initial package upgrade from the repository then move on to the live cd upgrade for it to work
[16:19] <WhiteHorse> I have 2GB of total RAM
[16:19] <resonantsky> i just upgraded from 10.04 to 11.10 and its working like a charm, with all my old programs and /home directory
[16:19] <compdoc> WhiteHorse, yu can start with 1G. I tend to go with 2
[16:19] <n4cht> pfifo; ah.  in that case... did you enjoy your experiment into why it's a bad idea to install important system libraries from another distribution using a conversion tool?  lol
[16:19] <MonkeyDust> resonantsky  i'm asking, because it sounds tricky :) why not write the procedure and use pastebin to paste it here
[16:19] <Guest43422> Vlc player has a bug of some kind--malware?  It has weird symbols--triangles, circles, etc--rather than words. I have the english language pack installed. What could it be?
[16:19] <auronandace> WhiteHorse: you might want to try lubuntu if you want lightweight
[16:19] <Tech-1> D`oh!
[16:20] <theadmin> Guest43422: Do you mean subtitltes? Those sometimes are encoded strangely.
[16:20] <resonantsky> MonkeyDust: actually what I did first was unpack the filesystem.squashfs file into my /home dir... but i don't think that had anything to do with the upgrade...
[16:20] <n4cht> pfifo; i know i've seen you around enough to know that you knew better anyway and were just doing it for fun.  not sure which channel i know your nick from though.. -ot or c-u?
[16:20] <llutz_> !minimal | WhiteHorse: you want to use this and just install whatever you really need if it should be "lightweight"
[16:20] <inashdeen> hi, is there a way to make a standalone app for html?? i would like something like hotot for instance :)
[16:21] <pfifo> n4cht, i would pastebin my terminal, but i cant get pages to load in chromium
[16:21] <auronandace> llutz: an even better suggestion :)
[16:21] <Guest43422> Yes--always with vlc player. I had the same problem with linux mint 12.
[16:21] <pfifo> time for a reboot
 That's not a bug you're seeing.  I've installed vlc dozens of times and I've never seen what you're describing.  Try reinstalling.
[16:21] <WhiteHorse> I have the Ubuntu 11.10 ISO Whats better to install it and then switch tu LXDE or to download the Lubuntu version directly?
[16:21] <theadmin> inashdeen: Check out Mozilla Prism, it allows you to turn websites into apps :D
[16:21] <Guest43422> I'll try a reinstall of vlc player.
[16:22] <html> inashdeen,  you want me in a standaloneapp?
[16:22] <theadmin> WhiteHorse: Clean-install of (L|K|X|(ed))ubuntu would be better than Ubuntu+your DE
[16:22] <aguitel> is anyone using razor-qt in ubuntu?
[16:23] <inashdeen> html : kind of :) if you sit in there nicely and dont try to run to firefox or chrome or other browser. just dont stay in IE. i'll spank u
 :  You may also want to consider starting vlc from the command line and redirect the output to a file and analyze the results.
[16:23] <gvandewe1er> does anybody know of a way to 'flash' your display while taking a webcam picture from the commandline (such as cheese does)
[16:23] <Guest43422> I installed vlc player thru terminal. Maybe that has something to do with it.
[16:23] <inashdeen> theadmin : can apps built from prism run without firefox?
[16:24] <r3za> for god sake how can i set authentication type of socks in unity ?!
[16:24] <inashdeen> i want to buil something completely standalone
[16:24] <theadmin> inashdeen: Indeed, it does not depend on Firefox, however it does depend on Prism
[16:24] <WhiteHorse> theadmin: how much memory should I allocate in VirtualBox to Lubuntu for it to run smoothly?
[16:24] <theadmin> WhiteHorse: Hm, I think... LXDE, huh... But then again, it is Ubuntu... Try around 350MB or so, if it doesn't work go up to 512
[16:25] <inashdeen> theadmin : second is, can html be used to execute a bash / bash script
[16:25] <theadmin> inashdeen: No.
 That should not matter.  I always install from the command line and it's always worked
[16:25] <theadmin> inashdeen: Browsers have no access to insides of the system, that'd be a HUGE security issue
[16:25] <WhiteHorse> got it... thank you very much everybody :)
[16:25] <r3za> for god sake how can i set authentication type of socks in unity ?!
 what ubuntu version are you using?
[16:27] <karms> r3za: I'm not completely understanding your question.
[16:27] <inashdeen> theadmin : ok thanx :)
[16:28] <resonantsky> MonkeyDust: do you still want that pastebin ?
[16:28] <resonantsky> MonkeyDust: here http://pastebin.com/rmheB0gU
[16:28] <MonkeyDust> resonantsky  not just me, the question occurs frequently, maybe it can be used by ubottu, to help others
[16:29] <r3za> karms: i used socks5 tunneling to have a freedome internet , but when i moved on to ubuntu 11.10 , i cant set my setting to connect proxy , my proxy server is socks.vpnmakers.com sets in port number 4000 !
[16:30] <resonantsky> MonkeyDust: I'd like to do it again to make sure of what I did, you should see my sources.list now ;)
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> resonantsky  refine it first, then share it with the community :)
[16:31] <resonantsky> MonkeyDust: yeah, I could look into and post it on ubuntuforums...
[16:31] <resonantsky> It just worked ;]
[16:32] <BadDesign> I want to install the latest version of MySQL 5.5.19 but in repository I can only find 5.1? What can I do ?
[16:32] <resonantsky> MonkeyDust: i just added the microverse archive repo and upgraded via synaptic...
[16:32] <resonantsky> MonkeyDust: thing is, now my synaptic won't run, gives an error and exits...
[16:33] <resonantsky> MonkeyDust: everything else works like a charm, even services from the previous version..
[16:33] <pfifo> BadDesign, you could look for a ppa on launchpad and failing that you have to compile from source
[16:33] <reihu> I'm trying to port recent gstreamer back to lucid (we've got several systems running lucid and the provided gstreamer version has VBR issues with MP3). I've already tried building the official sources which went well until I started putting it into .debs. After that I tried backporting but I'm struggling with build-dependencies... Has anyone some tips to push me in the right direction?
[16:34] <carolsdawn> hi
[16:36] <BadDesign> pfifo: this is ridiculous...  why there is no MySQL 5.5 in the official repositories... seems to me bad design...
[16:36] <pfifo> BadDesign, ask in #debain
[16:36] <No> AEW, AQUI NO RIO DE JANEIRO ESTÁ CHUVENDO, E AEW?
[16:36] <BadDesign> I'm sure I'll find some PPA but I was just wandering...
[16:36] <karms> r3za: Are you trying to access the Internet through your browser or by other means?
[16:36] <No> A CHUVA TÁ MUITO FODA
[16:36] <Guest96315> :D
[16:36] <Guest96315> HOJE É MINHA FORMATURA
[16:37] <Guest96315> VOU CONCLUIR O ENSINO FUNDAMENTAL II
[16:37] <Guest96315> LEGAL, NÉ?
[16:37] <Guest96315> COMO VAO VOCÊS
[16:37] <Guest96315> AFF
[16:37] <Guest96315> !
[16:37] <FloodBot1> Guest96315: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:37] <Krenair> !es
[16:37] <Guest96315> KKKKKKKK
[16:37] <FloodBot1> Guest96315: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:37] <Guest96315> VÃO SE FUDER
[16:38] <Guest96315> SEUS OTÁRIO
[16:38] <FloodBot1> Guest96315: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:39] <krasnozer> hi i'm installing an ubuntu-based distro from usb and the installer is stuck at 99% for some time now, any idea how to check if it's really stuck or still processing/copying stuff
[16:39] <r3za> karms: what do u mean ?
[16:40] <theadmin> krasnozer: We don't support "Ubuntu-based distros" except Xubuntu, Kubuntu and Lubuntu
[16:40] <kinky> krasnozer: first, ask at the channel of that ubuntu-based distro, second, open a terminal and use 'iotop -o'
[16:42] <carolsdawn> hi
[16:43] <krispaul> hello
[16:43] <carolsdawn> i am asian
[16:44] <krispaul> !asia
[16:44] <carolsdawn> yes
[16:44] <rar> !asi
[16:44] <rar> !asia
[16:44] <carolsdawn> wats up
[16:44] <deej1976> carolsdawn: This is a ubuntu support channel have you got a question about Ubuntu ?
[16:45] <deej1976> !brain | rar
[16:45] <WhiteHorse> is a there a way to boot lubuntu without the GUI by default and then if I needed it just type some command to bring it up?
[16:45] <rar> whats that, deej1976
[16:45] <rar> xD
[16:45] <WhiteHorse> would be that easy?
[16:45] <deej1976> !text | WhiteHorse
[16:45] <theadmin> WhiteHorse: Sure, add "text" to your kernel line when booting, and use "startx" to get teh gui
[16:46] <deej1976> rar: It will help you search for !command
[16:46] <rar> ok
[16:46] <resonantsky> ugh...hmm
[16:46] <rar> !activex
[16:47] <WhiteHorse> thats nice, thank you
[16:47] <antivirtel> hello! I'm going to buy a new laptop, and I'm planning to buy Lenovo and use with the lastest Ubuntu. The shop offered me this one: ThinkPad Edge E525 (NZ632HV) Black => AMD Llano A4-3300M, 4GB, DDR3, 500GB, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 6470M, WEBCAM, Bluetooth, Card reader, 15,6", 1366x768, DOS, HDMI, eSATA, 4xUSB, WLAN, Gigabit, AUDIO, DVD Super Multi, 2,36Kg, Black, 6cell, D-SUB, Matte display - unfortunately I read about that GPU (ATI Mobility Radeon H
[16:47] <antivirtel> D 6470M) that is not compatible well with Ubuntu. Can someone confirm it?
[16:47] <theadmin> antivirtel: ATI is ALWAYS a huge problem on Linux... Get some Nvidia.
[16:48] <theadmin> antivirtel: Newer cards are more-or-less supported actually, let me check yours
[16:49] <antivirtel> theadmin have you got any suggestion about a Lenovo with supported hardware?
[16:49] <theadmin> antivirtel: Oh sorry, the only laptops I've ever had are Asus, Samsung and Acers, so nope, but I think we had some page describing well-supported computers....
[16:49] <krasnozer> kinky: thanks that's exactly what i needed
[16:49] <theadmin> antivirtel: Check this page: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/make/Lenovo/laptops
[16:50] <BluesKaj> !certified
[16:50] <BluesKaj> !certification
[16:50] <antivirtel> I've looked for it theadmin ... I wasn't so satisfied with the info - do you suggest me using 64-bit?
[16:50] <theadmin> BluesKaj: I suggest you pm ubottu when you search for factoids, also...
[16:51] <theadmin> !bot | BluesKaj
[16:51] <BluesKaj> oh well , ther eis apage that includes dells and others
[16:51] <theadmin> antivirtel: Anything that has a 64-bit processor is worth using 64-bit OSes on, except if you plan to use Windows.
[16:51] <theadmin> antivirtel: 64-bit Windows => MEH
[16:52] <aBound> I'd use nVidia too.
[16:52] <karms> r3za:  Am I understanding you correctly?  Are you having difficulty accessing the internet through socks5?
[16:52] <pfifo> im going with ati for my next card
[16:53] <antivirtel> Sorry theadmin, what does MEH means?
[16:54] <theadmin> antivirtel: meh means "no good"
[16:54] <antivirtel> :D ok
[16:54] <r3za> karms: yes , exactly ! i connect to the filtered internet , so i got a company to give me socks5 service for using it , in windows 7 i use proxifier to connect but in ubuntu 11.10 i try every way but i cant connect to proxy server
[16:55] <aBound> Ugh, sounds like a hassle.
[16:55] <theadmin> r3za: Search for "Proxy Settings" in the dash
[16:55] <theadmin> r3za: That app normally works...
[16:55] <antivirtel> thanks theadmin, so, I need a config near this, but with an other GPU...
[16:55] <theadmin> r3za: For terminal based apps, export PROXY
[16:55] <theadmin> antivirtel: Yeah, may I ask why Lenovo?
[16:56] <llutz_> theadmin: socks-proxy != http/ftp-proxy
[16:56] <r3za> karms: can u please explain me more because in dash i search and nothing showed
[16:56] <karms> r3za: Ok good.  Now, lets first start with your browser.  Are you using Firefox as you default web browser?
[16:56] <r3za> karms: yup
[16:57] <theadmin> llutz_: Oh, socks... Sorry, I didn't realize (s)he was talking about SOCKS
[16:57] <llutz_> theadmin: would you pls refrain from your childish (s)he
[16:57] <antivirtel> theadmin - My first was IBM, and also the next too... then, I got used to it. Also it has a good price, and I think it has a reliable hardware. Otherwise I have a Dell netbook, I don't really like it :|
[16:58] <theadmin> llutz_: How is that childish? I can't be sure whether the user is male or female.
[16:58] <llutz_> theadmin: nobody cares in techsupport about it
[16:58] <theadmin> llutz_: Now, I can use "they", but some get confused by it
[16:58] <royalknight> hello
[16:58] <antivirtel> also I've seen some other types, I wasn't so satisfied with them theadmin
[16:59] <theadmin> antivirtel: I don't really like Dell either, they're somewhat weird, but idk, Ubuntu sometimes seems to have hardware problems outta nowhere, so it's best to look through certified ones
[16:59] <g0bl1n> hi, I how can I duplicate a filename f_1.png to f_2.png f_3.png f_4.png .... ?
[16:59] <karms> r3za: Ok great.  Are you familiar with setting in firefox for proxy setting.
[16:59] <theadmin> g0bl1n: Hm, try this: cat f_1.png > f_{2..4}.png
[16:59] <xarch> hi
[17:00] <r3za> karms: yup , and i set proxy setting ( socks ) but it didnt work again !
[17:00] <g0bl1n> theadmin, tried, but gives me an ambiguous message
[17:00] <theadmin> g0bl1n: Oh, sorry, I wasn't sure it worked.
[17:00] <antivirtel> theadmin but I don't really understand, why they are certified on "32-bit" (only)...
[17:00] <g0bl1n> theadmin, yes, I want to use bracket expansion because I need to make it for severall dozens images :-)
[17:00] <xarch> how can I change display settings I set in the Display menu of the System Settings application with Ubuntu?
[17:01] <theadmin> g0bl1n: Blech, this is ugly but will work: for i in {2..4} ; do cat f_1.png > f${i}.png ; done
[17:01] <xarch> without using it
[17:01] <karms> r3za: so are you saying that it. once worked?
[17:01] <g0bl1n> theadmin, so be it ;-) thanks
[17:01] <theadmin> g0bl1n: I forgot a _, but you can fix that I guess :D
[17:01] <g0bl1n> :-)
[17:01] <xarch> actually I'd like to chnage the settings when two screens are plugged in
[17:02] <r3za> karms: no i mean it didn't work at all
[17:02] <xarch> but without plugging in the second screenn
[17:02] <MonkeyDust> !enter| xarch
[17:02] <xarch> ok sorry
[17:02] <g0bl1n> theadmin, works. for loop 1 - 0 bracket expansion :-)
[17:03] <karms> r3za: I'll be right back.  Have to jump in the shower.  I'd like to continue working this for you.
[17:03] <theadmin> g0bl1n: Yeah, no big surprise there :D for loops are awesome
[17:03] <r3za> karms: ok i'll wait , thanks buddy !
[17:04] <MonkeyDust> theadmin  r3za will be right back from the shower, it means he's male :p
[17:04] <theadmin> MonkeyDust: lol :P
[17:05] <r3za> MonkeyDust: im not good at english my friend , what do u mean ?
[17:05] <theadmin> MonkeyDust: karms said that, not r3za
[17:06] <theadmin> antivirtel: 64-bit will likely work just the same or even better
[17:06] <theadmin> antivirtel: Don't worry about the architecture, it doesn't matter much in the Linux world
[17:07] <theadmin> antivirtel: Hell, I recall there being a port of Ubuntu to powerpc xD
[17:07] <xrdodrx> theadmin, (｡ ‿°)
[17:07] <theadmin> xrdodrx: wut?
[17:07] <antivirtel> theadmin Ok, thanks :D
[17:07] <xrdodrx> It matters a good deal, especially with compatibility with proprietary drivers and applications.
[17:07] <WhiteHorse> What's not included in the "alternate" version of Lubuntu?  I want it to boot fast, but I dont want to lose basic graphical tools because Im NOT a shell ninja :)
[17:07] <theadmin> xrdodrx: propertiary must die...
[17:07] <theadmin> xrdodrx: But yah, true...
[17:08] <WhiteHorse> I guess the minimal installation doesn't include the GUI right?
[17:08] <theadmin> WhiteHorse: Correct.
[17:08] <theadmin> WhiteHorse: You need to apt-get install it
[17:08] <xarch> where are display settings stored?
[17:09] <overclucker> WhiteHorse: or become a shell ninja
[17:09] <WhiteHorse> takes a lot of time i don't have :)
[17:10] <WhiteHorse> the best way to become a shell ninja is getting a job where you use it daily :)
[17:10] <xrdodrx> Ubun/30
[17:10] <WhiteHorse> I just want to setup a ruby develpment environment in virtual box
[17:12] <WhiteHorse> The lubuntu website doesn't explain very well what's not included in the "alternate" version, where can I read about the differences it has with the "standard" version?
[17:13] <AaronCampbell> I have a system that I just set up yesterday.  After a reboot today it brings me to a login screen (unity), lets me log in, then shows my desktops with their background, but no chrome at all (no launcher, no toolbar up top, no icons, etc).
[17:13] <jandro> Hello. I'm trying to share a session of GNU Screen with another user of the same machine. I managed to do it, but only by setting the suid flag of the binary file (/usr/bin/screen) which is a hole in the security. Is there any other way to do it? thanks
[17:13] <ikonia> jandro: it's not a sharing too
[17:13] <AaronCampbell> Any idea what I might try?  I know I had changed some compiz settings (trying to move the launcher to the right) but I don't know how to change them back now that I can't use the config program
[17:14] <ikonia> jandro: if he is using your login, you can both see the same screen session
[17:15] <jandro> ikonia: i tried that and it works, although that wasn't quite the idea tho. thanks
[17:15] <kenjcalgary> morning, did a virus scan and came up with what is indicated as a possible virus (getfiles/elcar.com) did a search on google and clam.net is saying not a virus
[17:15] <ikonia> jandro: undertand that's not the idea, but using screen as a multi-user-session-sharing device isn't it's design, so you have to work outside the scope
[17:15] <jandro> ikonia: any suggestion of what could I use instead, in which both users can input the terminal?
[17:15] <tester> 2223
[17:15] <ikonia> jandro: never really thought about that to be honest.....
[17:16] <ikonia> jandro: since terminals are normally a user specific thing, not sure how you can go about sharing it
[17:17] <ikonia> jandro: you could re-direct the output of a session to another PTY to allow the other user to "see" it, but both taking input, don't know
[17:17] <kenjcalgary> any concern with getfile/elcar.com need some feed back
[17:17] <ikonia> kenjcalgary: what ?
[17:19] <ChrisKempson> jandro: I've had success with screen sharing input
[17:19] <AaronCampbell> ok, if I log in to unity as a guest it works fine, but logging in as me doesn't (it loads the desktop backgrounds and nothing else).  Is there a way to copy the compiz settings from the guest account to mine to undo anything I messed up?
[17:20] <ikonia> ChrisKempson: I'd be interested how too
[17:20] <mirgon> a
[17:20] <llutz_> ChrisKempson: with non suid-root screen?
[17:21] <ChrisKempson> I haven't used screen for ages now but often share a session with tmux
[17:22] <pfifo> why do sparc systems have to be so expensive :(
[17:22] <dany> again need help withh wireless
[17:22] <ikonia> pfifo: because they are not home user kit, but that is not really something #ubuntu can help with
[17:22] <html> mkjackson_mobile,   u there?
[17:23] <llutz_> dany: still no success?
[17:23] <user_2> Hello, how can I share files on my LAN?
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> user_2  with Giver
[17:23] <user_2> who is Giver?
[17:24] <MonkeyDust> user_2  not who, what
[17:24] <user_2> I am sorry
[17:24] <MonkeyDust> !info giver
[17:24] <MonkeyDust> ah
[17:24] <pfifo> user_2, NFS or Samba reference https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo and https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/C/samba-fileserver.html
[17:24] <ChrisKempson> jandro: how are you trying to share your screen session exactly?
[17:25] <kenjcalgary> your response was what
[17:25] <user_2> pfifo, I would like to use a GUI, no console
[17:26] <jandro> ChrisKempson: thanks, i was having a look at tmux
[17:26] <pfifo> user_2, i dont know of any GUI tools, I only use cli stuff myself
[17:27] <sveinse> I have a headless server which I'd like to access a X desktop. What options are there? I've run a X VNC server and connected to it via ssh, that one. Others?
[17:27] <user_2> on "Network" I have found the other PC, but it tells me "Unable to mount location"
[17:27] <ChrisKempson> jandro: I used screen's -x flag, worked fine for me and no messing with suid. Tmux has the same feature available through "attach".
[17:27] <user_2> "Failed to retrieve share list from server"
[17:27] <jandro> ChrisKempson: I'm just doing it by enabling another user in screen. I run first :multiuser on and :acladd user
[17:28] <ChrisKempson> jandro: Oh I see
[17:28] <jandro> ChrisKempson: afaik that works when you use the same user
[17:30] <ChrisKempson> jandro: Ah I see, well I think it's possible with tmux but ultimately you'll be sharing the same tmux conf file
[17:31] <MonkeyDust> jandro  ChrisKempson byobu works with both screen and tmux
[17:31] <ChrisKempson> jandro: if that's not a problem tmux has a -S socket-path option
[17:31] <bad_alloc> hello, I'd like to install libeoffice on my ubuntu 10.04 LTS. The wiki says i need to apt-get purge all openoffice stuff. this would also delete all spellchecking (aspell, dictionaries and many more). Is there a way to have them in parallel?
[17:32] <ChrisKempson> MonkeyDust: isn't Byobu just a fancy config for screen?
[17:32] <MonkeyDust> ChrisKempson  yes, or tmux
[17:32] <pfifo> bad_alloc, you can add aspell back in later, if you dont get a different spellchecker from the liberoffice install
[17:33] <ChrisKempson> MonkeyDust: Okay, wasn't aware it could be used with tmux
[17:33] <bad_alloc> pfifo: how can i get a look at what's inside the libreoffice package? and what happens to my dictionaries?
[17:33] <pfifo> bad_alloc, dpkg -L <deb file>
[17:34] <bad_alloc> thanks pfifo :)
[17:34] <bad_alloc> but would a paralell installation hurt?
[17:34] <Talish> What are som web browsers available for ubuntu?
[17:34] <jandro> MonkeyDust: but byobu does help with the multiuser issue?
[17:34] <pfifo> bad_alloc, im not sure ive never tried it
[17:35] <auronandace> Talish: firefox, opera, chromium
[17:35] <MonkeyDust> jandro  not familiar with multiple users, so can't say
[17:35] <jandro> ChrisKempson: byobu is just to make it pretty
[17:36] <ChrisKempson> jandro: That's what I thought :P
[17:36] <diatomaceous> it also logs you into the session automatically, which is nice
[17:36] <ChrisKempson> Was just going over the docs to make sure I hadn't missed something
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> jandro  it's more than that
[17:37] <user_2> please help, http://s7.postimage.org/sqcpcyve1/Screenshot_at_2011_12_16_18_28_25.png
[17:38] <jandro> MonkeyDust: true, I just checked it up better, there are few interesting thins
[17:45] <Jack88> anyone Dutch here?
[17:46] <MonkeyDust> Jack88  ja ik, maar ga liever kijken in #ubuntu-nl
[17:48] <xaxm> Evening' can someone help me with updating my ubuntu drivers and firmware and whatelse ? I cant use the update app because there  is no wired internet around and i dont have wlan drivers installed
[17:48] <jdavidboyd> anyone know why emacs 23 works okay with the unity panel, but emacs 24 doesn't?  Am I missing something in my compile?
[17:49] <jdavidboyd> emacs 23 installed with the package manager, 24 built from src
[17:50] <pingveno> I'm trying to have my company's Ubuntu repository working with dist-upgrade. Is there an established method to update the relevant sources.list.d file?
[17:50] <jdavidboyd> is there anyway to see the properties of the items that are listed in the unity panel?
[17:51] <jdavidboyd> are they all .desktop files, in some specific directory?
[17:51] <xaxm> Im trying to update my ubuntu 10.4 in order to get my wireless card working ( ppl told me that it works if i just update with the default app ) However i dont have  a wired connection to the internet
[17:52] <pfifo> xaxm, whats the problem?
[17:53] <No> AQUI JÁ PAROU DE CHUVER
[17:53] <No> :D
[17:53] <No> E AEW
[17:53] <pangolin> !br | No
[17:53] <No> PAROU DE CHOVER?
[17:53] <No> EM?
[17:53] <No> NÃO ME ESCONDAM
[17:53] <FloodBot1> No: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:53] <keyzs> if i resize ubuntu partition and install one more linux distro on disk do i get any problems? what is best gparted?
[17:53] <Guest12796> :D
[17:53] <Guest12796> SOU FOCA
[17:53] <Guest12796> KKK
[17:53] <Guest12796> VÃO TOMAR NO OLHO DO CÚ DE VOCÊS
[17:53] <FloodBot1> Guest12796: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:56] <xaxm> #pfifo i talked to a private chatroom but w/e. My prob is that i need to do system updates
[17:56] <AaronDCampbell> in Nautilus when I browse to a place on the network it shows like it's mounted (little eject icon next to it).  Where does it mount it?
[17:56] <xaxm> but i dont have a wired connection
[17:56] <MonkeyDust> AaronDCampbell  /media
[17:56] <Arpad2> hello, any idea how to resolve this problem of intall http://paste.ubuntu.com/772470/ thank you!
[17:56] <nedR> hello.. i want to upgrade to ubuntu 11.10 from 11.04 but there is no such option in Update-manager
[17:56] <xaxm> so i want to download updates for my system, from a windows computer, and install them on mine
[17:57] <AaronDCampbell> MonkeyDust: My external drive is the only thing listed in /media
[17:57] <nedR> can anyone help me
[17:57] <user_2> Could somebody have a look at this: http://s7.postimage.org/sqcpcyve1/Screenshot_at_2011_12_16_18_28_25.png
[17:57] <jutnux> nedR: try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:57] <nedR> jutnux: thank you will try
[17:59] <martian> Is there a way to set gconf defaults for newly created users?
[17:59] <martian> like window control positioning, desktop backgrounds, etc.
[17:59] <jpds> martian: sudo -u $USER gconftool ...
[18:00] <html> how do i mount a cd?
[18:00] <xaxm>  ok ill say it once more , . I need to install any update the update manager proposes, but i dont have a wired connection (ethernet) so i can do it, and in order to activate my wireless card i need the updates. Can some one tell me how to download and install them from another system?
[18:00] <nedR> jutnux : on running the command i get this : http://pastebin.com/yU7wmh7c
[18:00] <martian> jpds: before they're created. Like /etc/skel but for gnome settigns
[18:00] <jpds> martian: Not that I know of.
[18:01] <edbian> Hello?
[18:01] <nedR> System monitor still reports 11.04 and no option to upgrade to 11.10 has appeared in the update-manager
[18:01] <martian> jpds: shoulda google'd first. update-gconf-defaults looks promising :)
[18:02] <martian> edbian: hello!
[18:02] <jpds> nedR: Check /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[18:03] <geoffmcc> nedR: if you are trying to upgrade to 11.10 do "sudo update-manager -d"
[18:03] <BluesKaj> nedR, the command has changed distuograde merely upgrades the apps in the present OS , to uograde to next OS , in tehe terminal , sudo do-release-upgrade
[18:04] <pangolin> geoffmcc: that will get him to the alpha 12.04, bad idea
[18:04] <BluesKaj> er upgrade
[18:04]  * BluesKaj shakes the crumbs out of his keyboard
[18:04] <nedR> jpds , geoffmcc , BluesKaj : many thanks for replies.. will try each suggestion in order
[18:04] <geoffmcc> nedR: just do sudo  do-release-upgrade
[18:05] <pangolin> geoffmcc: :)
[18:05] <nedR> geoffmcc: okay will do that
[18:05] <BluesKaj> geoffmcc, not -d . that's for a developemnt OS like 12.04
[18:06] <geoffmcc> i know realise
[18:06] <nedR> trying  "sudo  do-release-upgrade"
[18:07] <nedR> seeing lots of "Errs"
[18:08] <jutnux> Alternatively download the new version?
[18:08] <oscar> I've got a compaq presario c700la and I've got an issue with the audio, it seems when it starts it makes the sound to log in but then once started it does not make any sound at all
[18:08] <MonkeyDust> AaronDCampbell  type mount and see if it shows the network drive
[18:09] <nedR> this is the error i finally got on "sudo do-release-upgrade" : http://pastebin.com/wyEM2rwY
[18:09] <mikyp04> ciao
[18:10] <mikyp04> !list
[18:10] <MonkeyDust> another ciao-!list-italian :)
[18:11] <oscar> Hi, there everybody.
[18:11] <oscar> I've got a compaq presario c700la and I've got an issue with the audio, it seems when it starts it makes the sound to log in but then once started it does not make any sound at all,
[18:11] <BluesKaj> nedR, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade , then sudo do-release-upgrade
[18:12] <AaronDCampbell> MonkeyDust: no, but 'gvfs-mount -l' does
[18:12] <nedR> ok will try
[18:12] <mcurran> Anyone know where .bash_profile is located in lucid?
[18:13] <brightspark> Hi, when I open a pdf in firefox, I get a message saying that there is an update for Reader, and asking if I want to install it.  I click "yes" but something isn't working- it asks on later pdfs as well.  How can I get it to install the update and shut up?
[18:14] <brightspark> oscar, run "alsamixer" in a terminal, make sure nothing is muted, and see if you can fix the problem with the controls there.
[18:14] <BluesKaj> mchenetz, open nautilus>view>show hidden files
[18:14] <BluesKaj> mcurran, ^
[18:15] <bobo37773> @mccurran should be in your home folder
[18:16] <BluesKaj> bobo37773, no need for @ on irc
[18:16] <bobo37773> oh ok
[18:16] <samtate> Hello
[18:16] <bobo37773> thanks
[18:16] <nedR> okay, BluesKaj your suggestion seemed to work .. now it reports that i need 2165MB free space.. have to fish around for it right now
[18:16] <samtate> How can I purge an app that I installed from source (vala)
[18:17] <samtate> I installed from the lp:vala source, and I want to remove it
[18:18] <bobo37773> samtate do you still have the source?
[18:19] <samtate> bobo37773: No
[18:19] <bobo37773> samtate if you did not use checkinstall then you need to do a make uninstall from the source directory just like how you installed in originally
[18:20] <bobo37773> samtate just download the source files again
[18:20] <samtate> bobo37773: OK Ill try that :)
[18:21] <theshadow> Does anyone know the "command" I would use to map the "end" key to ALT+SHIFT+RIGHTARROW?
[18:21] <bobo37773> samtate when you install from source again use a program called "checkinstall" and you should be able to remove it with your package manager
[18:21] <samtate> bobo37773: How would I do that?
[18:22] <lindenle_> Hi guys I need java 5 to connect to an ilom machine and I have the plugin in chrome but it still is not working...any ideas?
[18:22] <auronandace> !checkinstall | samtate
[18:22] <bobo37773> samtate you have to install checkinstall first and then you use   ./configure - make - checkinstall (instead of make install)   instead of the normal make - make install
[18:22] <samtate> bobo37773: Awesome :
[18:22] <samtate> :)
[18:23] <BluesKaj> samtate, is the package listed in the package manager , if so remove it there ..I know that's stating the obvious , but I have to mention it
[18:24] <bobo37773> samtate yeah it is a pretty awesome program without it you have to hold on to all the source files for every program you install from source to uninstall a real pain
[18:25] <antivirtel> theadmin IdeaPad V470A (59-312502) Silver - Intel Core i3-2330M, 4GB, DDR3, 500GB, NVIDIA GeForce GT 520M, WEBCAM, Bluetooth, Card Reader, 14,1", 1366x768, DOS, HDMI, eSATA, 3xUSB, WLAN, Gigabit, AUDIO, DVD Super Multi, 2,2Kg, LED, Silver, 6cella, D-SUB - unfortunately http://askubuntu.com/questions/36930/how-well-do-laptops-with-nvidia-optimus-work
[18:25] <BluesKaj> hmm, I haven't been able to compile anything from source , since the configure file no longer come with the packages
[18:26] <BluesKaj> make , make install just errors out , something about no target found
[18:26] <antivirtel> theadmin I don't belive this, which GPU is supported? :O
[18:26] <samtate> BluesKaj: which program is it?
[18:26] <karni> Is there a way to click through apps with Unity dashboard? I'm running 12.04 and have no idea where to find "Software sources"
[18:27] <_Nano> anyone ever had a link error compiling a kernel : No space left on device? I know that's not true, I've got atleast 1TB free
[18:27] <theadmin> antivirtel: Optimus is new... Yeah, well, see, they all DO work, just expect crappy graphics in games and such in most of those "unsupported" ones, and some might, indeed, fail completely
[18:27] <abstrakt> halp! my wireless card no worx! :(
[18:27] <theadmin> _Nano: Sounds like you're out of RAM :P
[18:27] <karni> Also, that makes me think how the heck they want to use Unity on touch devices.
[18:27] <theadmin> theadmin: It considers RAM a device :/
[18:27] <_Nano> theadmin: 24GB ddr3ram also
[18:27] <theadmin> _Nano: Oh, okay
[18:27] <abstrakt> it's really weird too, cuz I can see the driver is loaded in the "additional drivers" dialog
[18:27] <theadmin> _Nano: Huh.
[18:27] <bobo37773> BluesKaj are you sure you installed it from source originally
[18:27] <abstrakt> but I don't get any wireless networks in my little wireless tray icon thingie
[18:27] <abstrakt> those are all technical terms, mind you :P
[18:28] <BluesKaj> samtate,  tried to build google-earth from source since the versions on their site for ubuntu don't work
[18:28] <abstrakt> anyone else having issues with wireless drivers being installed but not working?
[18:28] <antivirtel> theadmin you mean games only? I won't really game...
[18:28] <abstrakt> how do I trouble shoot something like this?
[18:28] <antivirtel> play games...
[18:28] <bobo37773> BluesKaj nevermind I see what you are saying you cannot find a source package
[18:28] <BluesKaj> don't work = won'r launch
[18:28] <theadmin> antivirtel: Well games and other sorts of 3D graphics...
[18:28] <ghostnik11> hi does anyone know how to get an iphone 4 synced in banshee because I put the music on the iphone and it shows transfered but when i go in iphone i see no music
[18:28] <theadmin> brb
[18:29] <abstrakt> ghostnik11, yep, use rhythmbox ;)
[18:29] <number17> its finky ghostnik11
[18:29] <abstrakt> banshee kinda sucks, sorry... rhythmbox is more mature
[18:29] <abstrakt> I don't know why they decided to ditch a good media player for a bad one
[18:29] <brightspark> Hi, when I open a pdf in firefox, I get a message saying that there is an update for Reader, and asking if I want to install it.  I click "yes" but something isn't working- it asks on later pdfs as well.  How can I get it to install the update and shut up?
[18:29] <abstrakt> anyway... how do I get wireless working in ubuntu?
[18:29] <number17> rhythmbox banshee all of them are weird with ipods, at least in my experience
[18:29] <ghostnik11> abstrakt: so rhythmbox will work out the box or do i need any extra stuff from synaptic
[18:29] <number17> i generally have to unplug and plug it back up several times
[18:30] <number17> there is a product called gtkpod
[18:30] <antivirtel> theadmin I don't really want to play games... and what about the ATI Mobility Radeon HD 6470M? Is it the same?
[18:30] <abstrakt> ghostnik11, yeah don't be surprised if you have a difficult time with your ipod no matter what
[18:30] <number17> its a program for iphones and ipod's
[18:30] <abstrakt> antivirtel, go with nvidia :)
[18:30] <abstrakt> antivirtel, nvidia is more powerful and they have better drivers - if you like junky drivers then go ATI, that's cool
[18:30] <number17> but its just as finky, i do find the interface to be a little better than banshee or rythmbox
[18:30] <ghostnik11> number17: well i know in the pass ubuntu has worked fantastic with ipod videos because when running earlier editions of ubuntu i could always sync my ipod in rhythmbox
[18:31] <xkinder> hi
[18:31] <xkinder> Im new
[18:31] <antivirtel> abstrakt :) thanks... I like to hear these experiences :)
[18:31] <abstrakt> ghostnik11, soo, use rhythmbox?
[18:31] <theadmin> antivirtel: I have one of those actually
[18:31] <auronandace> xkinder: is that better than being old?
[18:31] <abstrakt> antivirtel, I have always been an nvidia guy and I've had really bad problems with ATI drivers historically
[18:31] <theadmin> antivirtel: Works well enough
[18:31] <abstrakt> antivirtel, the one thing that the ATI fans will champion is the fact that the ATI drivers are open source on linux
[18:32] <abstrakt> antivirtel, but really, think about it... are you going to ever read that code? if not, then for you it kind of doesn't matter
[18:32] <karni> self answered: software-properties-gtk
[18:32] <theadmin> abstrakt: Propertiary ones around as well...
[18:32] <abstrakt> theadmin, yes I'm aware
[18:32] <number17> ghostnik: try gtkpod
[18:32] <number17> its in the software center
[18:32] <theadmin> abstrakt: Isn't it the same for nvidia?
[18:32] <abstrakt> point is that nvidia doesn't even have open source drivers, which some people think is bad
[18:32] <abstrakt> theadmin, no there are no open source drivers for nvidia
[18:32] <abstrakt> unless they came out in the past 6 months
[18:32] <theadmin> abstrakt: Oh, huh...
[18:32] <theadmin> abstrakt: Okay
[18:33] <auronandace> abstrakt: nouveau is improving slowly
[18:33] <abstrakt> antivirtel, ATI and AMD systems are for the gamer on a budget... intel and nvidia systems are for the professional/enthusiast with a medium to large amount of money
[18:33] <xkinder> alguien abla español
[18:33] <abstrakt> xkinder, #ubuntu-es
[18:33] <auronandace> !es | xkinder
[18:34] <xkinder> gracias
[18:34] <antivirtel> abstrakt No, I won't...  I won't hack any drivers yet :) I only want to buy a laptop for more than 3 years... - theadmin then ok, I'll look for nVidia
[18:34] <abstrakt> antivirtel, ahh, yes laptop shopping for linux, always kind of a crap shoot unfortunately :(
[18:34] <auronandace> abstrakt: i find thinkpad are a good choice
[18:35] <abstrakt> antivirtel, the most important component to look at I think is going to be the wireless card
[18:35] <theadmin> antivirtel: As I say, the ATI Mobility Radeon model you mentioned works perfectly fine with me except 3D graphics act up unless I use their driver (fglrx)
[18:35] <antivirtel> abstrakt yeah, I see... I don't really like shopping nowdays
[18:35] <antivirtel> theadmin oh, I misunderstood :) now it's ok
[18:36] <abstrakt> so, speaking of wireless cards... who knows how to troubleshoot the wireless system in ubuntu?
[18:36] <abstrakt> my driver is installed through the "additional drivers" dialog
[18:36] <number17> iwconfig ?
[18:36] <antivirtel> :) I've just played with it
[18:36] <abstrakt> but I still don't see any wireless networks
[18:36] <antivirtel> any errors in network manager?
[18:37] <antivirtel> like Firmware not ready?
[18:37] <Benkinooby> abstrakt, hm, just to be safe: run the iwconfig as sudo
[18:37] <abstrakt> i'm not sure how I would check for errors in network manager, but I have no popup dialogs or anything
[18:37] <abstrakt> no wireless extensions is what I get when I run iwconfig
[18:37] <abstrakt> lemme sudo it
[18:37] <abstrakt> yep, I get lo and eth1, and they both say "no wireless extensions"
[18:37] <abstrakt> and that's the only output
[18:37] <abstrakt> Benkinooby, ^
[18:37] <abstrakt> antivirtel, no errors that I can see no
[18:37] <antivirtel> just click on it abstrakt, and what shows after the Wireless network title?
[18:38] <abstrakt> antivirtel, there is no wireless network title that's what I'm saying
[18:38] <geoffmcc> abstrakt: what kind of wireless card is it?
[18:38] <abstrakt> when I click on my wireless "system tray" icon, all I get is "wired network 1" and "disconnect"
[18:38] <abstrakt> geoffb, broadcom 4400 I think?
[18:38] <abstrakt> broadcom 44xx
[18:38] <antivirtel> oh... is it enabled in BIOS/hardware button abstrakt?
[18:38] <anand> \exit
[18:38] <abstrakt> yes it works fine on windows
[18:38] <BluesKaj> astra05, sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[18:38] <abstrakt> and it's installed through the "additional drivers" dialog
[18:39] <BluesKaj> oops abstarct ^
[18:39] <abstrakt> BluesKaj, "wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device"
[18:40] <abstrakt> or rather, I should say, that it is "activated" in the additional drivers dialog
[18:40] <abstrakt> it's the "Broadcom STA" driver
[18:40] <BluesKaj> so what does ,ifconfig, give you ?, abstrakt , pastebin it pls
[18:40] <abstrakt> I recall there used to be two drivers for broadcom and one of them worked for me and one of them didn't
[18:40] <abstrakt> BluesKaj, ok one sec
[18:41] <geoffmcc> abstrakt: i use dont use the one in drivers, i install with b43 installer but you have 44xx, not sure if works
[18:41] <abstrakt> BluesKaj, http://pastie.org/private/t6aioqzsrjbqivvb5inufq
[18:41] <abstrakt> geoffb, actually I think I have 44xx, I need to double check if it's 44xx or 43xx
[18:42] <geoffmcc> if its 43xx def use firmware-b43-installer to install as way better than sta drivers
[18:42] <abstrakt> ok lspci says it's "BCM4311"
[18:42] <abstrakt> geoffmcc, ahh ok where do I get that?
[18:42] <geoffmcc> abstrakt: software cener or apt-get
[18:43] <geoffmcc> abstrakt: you have an active wired connection, right?
[18:43] <abstrakt> geoffmcc, yes I'm on my wired right now
[18:43] <abstrakt> geoffmcc, I assume I should disable the STA driver right?
[18:43] <geoffmcc> abstrakt: prob. but i never activate it so i dont know
[18:44] <abstrakt> k, yeah I'm def gonna disable it first
[18:44] <geoffmcc> abstrakt: but once you download and run it will download driver and install for you
[18:44] <abstrakt> geoffmcc, errr... download what now? isn't apt-get pretty much self contained?
[18:44] <abstrakt> sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[18:44] <abstrakt> should "just do" what it needs to right?
[18:45] <geoffmcc> abstrakt: yes
[18:45] <geoffmcc> abstrakt: it will also install b43-fwcutter just so your not surprised
[18:45] <abstrakt> yes I see that it's downloading now, what's fwcutter?
[18:45] <abstrakt> a firewall? firmware?
[18:46] <BluesKaj> !bcm43XX
[18:46] <geoffmcc> abstrakt: if i understand properly, it removes the firmware from non linux drivers
[18:46] <abstrakt> ah
[18:51] <Kartagis> what is ubuntu's equivalent to centos' /etc/sysconfig?
[18:51] <pingveno> I have this line in a .list file for my company: deb http://path/to/repo lucid main #companyname
[18:51] <BluesKaj> geoffmcc,  it';s too bad some of this documentation that is so old and doesn't really apply, like the sta driver, is still in the factoids .. it's misleading
[18:51] <abstrakt> geoffmcc, BluesKaj, ok so I read that help link, and I did sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer; but when I go back to additional drivers I still only see the STA driver
[18:51] <pingveno> Is there a way to update "lucid" during an dist-upgrade?
[18:52] <abstrakt> "Step 2: Under the desktop menu System > Administration > Hardware/Additional Drivers, the b43 drivers can be activated for use." <- not for me :(
[18:53] <auronandace> BluesKaj: isn't it a wiki? you can edit it and update it?
[18:53] <abstrakt> auronandace, that requires time
[18:53] <BluesKaj> geoffmcc, does he need to blacklist the STA driver ?
[18:53] <delac> trying to get usb devices to show in virtualbox (ubuntu host and guest). I already created the vboxusers group but the virtualbox doesn't even have the usb-devices section. any help?
[18:54] <user_2> What can I do? -> share files tells me: "Unable to mount location: Failed to retrieve share list from ..."
[18:54] <geoffmcc> BluesKaj: sorry, i was away for a second. yes, it may be blacklisted
[18:54] <abstrakt> delac, have you logged out and logged back in since creating the vboxusers group?
[18:54] <wad> I have a window open, showing a bunch of files in it. I pressed CTRL-2, and everything vanished. What does CTRL-2 mean? I can't find it listed anywhere!
[18:54] <delac> abstrakt: even rebooted
[18:54] <BluesKaj> auronandace, not this one , it's an ubuntu document
[18:54] <abstrakt> geoffmcc, so how do I black list the STA driver?
[18:54] <geoffmcc> abstrakt: if you rebooted and it still not activated, then it may be blacklisted
[18:54] <delac> abstrakt: and I have the vboxusers group in both host and guest
[18:55] <abstrakt> ahh, ok I guess I should reboot
[18:55] <abstrakt> delac, have you asked #vbox?
[18:55] <abstrakt> rebooting, bbiab?
[18:55] <delac> abstrakt: I gues I should :)
[18:55] <auronandace> BluesKaj: i see, is there a ubuntu documentation team you could notify (or a bug report to submit)?
[18:57] <BluesKaj> auronandace, well, the problem is that the STA driver could work on some legacy setups , so it's becoming an exception to the rule that works on some system
[18:57] <BluesKaj> sytems
[18:58]  * BluesKaj shakes more crumbs out of the KB
[18:59] <BluesKaj> I'm quite happy with my acer laptop , the bcm43XX driver worked right out of the box
[19:00] <pfifo> BluesKaj, only in 10.10+
[19:00] <BluesKaj> pfifo, yeah ,11,04
[19:00] <geoffmcc> BluesKaj: yea since 11 i think, you have to comment out the blacklist bcm43xx
[19:00] <auronandace> BluesKaj: i'm happy i have intel wireless, no config or driver installation neccesary
[19:01] <plusEV> LF girlfriend. ps i just won the lottery.
[19:01] <plusEV> how do i list channels with hot girls?
[19:01] <pfifo> all I hadto for 10.04 was apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source and modprobe wl... i think that jockey was offering to install it too, but i do everything from cli
[19:02] <pfifo> plusEV, /server sexychat
[19:02] <plusEV> that will DC me+
[19:02] <geoffmcc> pfifo: if im not mistaken that was just installing the sta drivers, i prefer the non sta
[19:02] <plusEV> :)
[19:02] <user_2> What can I do? -> share files tells me: "Unable to mount location: Failed to retrieve share list from ..."
[19:03] <pfifo> geoffmcc, yeah, it was 'recommended' to go with sta, so i did
[19:03] <plusEV> girls dont use sexy chat
[19:03] <xk00zx> Is this the right place to ask for help or is there another channel?
[19:03] <plusEV> its just men there
[19:04] <auronandace> xk00zx: help with ubuntu then yes
[19:04] <BluesKaj> plusEV, not here pls
[19:04] <geoffmcc> !ask | xk00zx
[19:04] <vip_> hello. which file I need edit to add ascii logo to terminal in ubu 10.10?
[19:04] <xk00zx> I just installed ubuntu about a week ago (just coming away from windows) and I can't seem to get ffmpeg to record sound - i think its a driver issue, but I don't know really where to start looking for my soundcard - its not in /dev/dsp from what i've read on google...
[19:05] <plusEV> wall of text crits me for over 9000
[19:05] <xk00zx> !ask
[19:05] <vip_> hello. which file I need edit to add ascii logo to  terminal in ubu 10.10?
[19:06] <plusEV> but srsly how do i list channels+ using weechat.
[19:06] <geoffmcc> xk00zx: maybe /dev/dsp1
[19:06] <plusEV> ?
[19:06] <pfifo> plusEV, /list
[19:06] <vip_> hello. which file I need edit to add ascii logo to  terminal in ubu 10.10?
[19:06] <BluesKaj> xk00zx, lspci |grep audio
[19:06] <plusEV> I list the whole internet with that command
[19:07] <sskalnik> What am I doing wrong here: "mkdir -p /tmp/buildd/nslink-4.28.1/debian/tmp/etc/init.d" ?
[19:07] <xk00zx> geoffmcc: negative - no dsp listed when i "ls /dev" - BluesKaj: i get nothing when i type that
[19:07] <sskalnik> mkdir: cannot create directory `/tmp/buildd/nslink-4.28.1/debian/tmp/etc': Not a directory
[19:07] <BluesKaj> xk00zx, don't type it , copy and paste it , you might have the command wrong
[19:07] <pfifo> sskalnik, /tmp/buildd/nslink-4.28.1/debian/tmp/etc must be a file
[19:08] <abstrakt> sweet!
[19:08] <abstrakt> thanks geoffmcc and BluesKaj
[19:08] <geoffmcc> abstrakt: no prob
[19:08] <xk00zx> BluesKaj: same thing - nothing
[19:08] <BluesKaj> cool abstrakt :)
[19:08] <geoffmcc> BluesKaj: lspci | grep Audio
[19:08] <sergey_> hi)
[19:08] <trism> vip_: on ssh login? you could add a script that echos it to /etc/update-motd.d/ or if you want it at the end, add it to /etc/motd.tail
[19:08] <abstrakt> it works after a reboot, although interestingly enough the b43 driver still doesn't show up in the "Additional Drivers" dialog
[19:09] <sskalnik> pfifo:  You mean it has to be a file in order to work, or it must a be an extant file and thus the command fails?
[19:09] <geoffmcc> abstrakt: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[19:09] <pfifo> sskalnik, the latter
[19:09] <BluesKaj> xk00zx, aplay -l
[19:09] <abstrakt> geoffb, 11.10
[19:09] <xk00zx> BluesKaj / geoffmcc: ah - typed it with a capital - 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller
[19:09] <xk00zx> 03:00.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation GF100 High Definition Audio Controller (rev a1)
[19:09] <mgtsol> hey guys. I had an rsync-based script which had a problem with reading my .bashrc file on host A, after I'd copied it across from host B, using FTP and a Windows 7 host in between. It said "problem reading EOF". Is this an encoding issue? Where do I look to find out more about this?
[19:10] <geoffmcc> abstrakt: does the sta say its activated or it just dont list an activated wifi
[19:10] <sskalnik> pfifo:  That seems rather bizarre; what might cause a file like that to exist in a clean pbuilder?
[19:10] <mgtsol> solution was simply to create .bashrc on host A from scratch using vi, but I'd like to know why there was an issue
[19:10] <abstrakt> geoffmcc, well I explicitly deactivated the STA driver via "Additional Drivers" before I did the apt-get for b43
[19:10] <abstrakt> geoffmcc, so yeah the STA driver says it's deactivated
[19:10] <pfifo> sskalnik, trying to touch a dir that dosent exist
[19:11] <abstrakt> it's just that the help docs said that I was supposed to be able to go in to Additional Drivers and see the new b43 driver, but i guess that's moot on 11.10 or something
[19:11] <sskalnik> pfifo:  Thanks. I shall investigate
[19:11] <xk00zx> BluesKaj - how do i point ffmpeg to that sound card? its an intel - but i don't see anything that resembles it in /dev
[19:12] <ManDay> Hello Ubuntu - I'm looking for a webpage which offers a list of packages which one "commonly wants" and which are part of ubuntu-standard (say, gnome-panel, nm-applet, etc) for finding out which packages I want to add to my minimal ubuntu
[19:12] <geoffmcc> abstrakt: my wireless broke, so i never used it in 11.10, but i know there is a blacklist for bcm43xx in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf, ive came across some users who couldnt get to work till commented out that line, but if you removed the sta then you should be using the ones firmware installer gave u
[19:12] <abstrakt> ManDay, sudo apt-get install xfce
[19:12] <abstrakt> ManDay, :)
[19:12] <abstrakt> ManDay, I don't think there is any such list really
[19:13] <dpnux> Good morning, how to remove unused kernel and grub entries safely?
[19:13] <abstrakt> geoffmcc, yeah I removed the STA first thing, so I think everything is all good
[19:13] <abstrakt> mostly as evidenced by the fact that I'm talking to you through my wireless now :)
[19:13] <geoffmcc> abstrakt: enjoy
[19:13] <abstrakt> ManDay, if you want minimal ubuntu, you definitely don't want GNOME anything
[19:13] <ManDay> abstrakt: Why would I want xfce?
[19:14] <abstrakt> ManDay, because it's minimal?
[19:14] <BluesKaj> xk00zx,  in the terminal type ' alsamixer ', make sure the Master, PCM,  Line & CD are all unmuted ,by using the "M" key'  then turn those controls up to the max.
[19:14] <abstrakt> ManDay, you might not, you might like OpenBox better
[19:14] <ManDay> abstrakt: I've never used xfce. Which toolkit does it use?
[19:14] <abstrakt> ManDay, gtk
[19:14] <ManDay> abstrakt: Yes, I like OB
[19:14] <ManDay> abstrakt: ah good
[19:14] <vip_> I want logo ascii any time when I open terminal
[19:14] <abstrakt> ManDay, yeah I love XFCE... XFCE is finally mature and gets so many things right that GNOME 2 got wrong
[19:15] <abstrakt> ManDay, and it's a lot more mature now, and now that GNOME3 is such junk, I moved to XFCE personally
[19:15] <ManDay> abstrakt: which repo is xfce in? universe?
[19:15] <abstrakt> ManDay, not sure, sorry
[19:15] <xk00zx> BluesKaj - check - line was muted, is there a way to save settings before i exit?
[19:15] <ManDay> abstrakt: what about lxde, tried it?
[19:15] <pfifo> !info xfce4
[19:15] <ManDay> thanks
[19:15] <abstrakt> ManDay, yes I did try lxde, you might like that, but I prefer xfce, lxde was a little bit too lightweight for me
[19:15] <shovell> sorry if this has a tutorial somewhere but i am trying to deactivate a mouse on my laptop and i cant remember how to do it?
[19:16] <abstrakt> ManDay, I need a 3x3 virtual desktop grid, and lxde doesn't have that, but xfce does
[19:16] <ManDay> abstrakt: mind to give an example?
[19:16] <ManDay> I see
[19:16] <robin0800> dpnux: this script works  dpkg -l 'linux-*' | sed '/^ii/!d;/'"$(uname -r | sed "s/\(.*\)-\([^0-9]\+\)/\1/")"'/d;s/^[^ ]* [^ ]* \([^ ]*\).*/\1/;/[0-9]/!d' | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge
[19:16] <abstrakt> ManDay, if lxde did have the option to configure a 3x3 virtual desktop grid, I would use lxde most likely
[19:16] <ManDay> Well, I guess I might just go without any DE at all. I'm preparing this ubuntu minimal to host a propriatary software
[19:16] <ManDay> so i dont need anything, actually
[19:16] <abstrakt> ManDay, from what I understand lxde actually uses openbox as the window manager
[19:17] <ManDay> abstrakt: I don't think so
[19:17] <abstrakt> ManDay, yeah so it's a server?
[19:17] <BluesKaj> xk00zx, sudo alsactl store
[19:17] <abstrakt> I'm pretty sure that lxde at least can be configured to use ob
[19:17] <ManDay> abstrakt: No, it's an USB stick which I can plug in anywhere to boot ubuntu which merely serves as the host OS for the propriatary software (matlab, that is)
[19:17] <dpnux> robin0800: thanks.
[19:18] <abstrakt> ManDay, ahh ok... so you might as well run openbox... if you even want to run X11 at all
[19:18] <ManDay> abstrakt: X11 is necessary.
[19:19] <abstrakt> ManDay, ok, well then my vote would be for openbox, but I guess you could just run a "blank" xsession, with no wm
[19:19] <ManDay> abstrakt: The problem is I need to build a solid base package because these propriatary software usually assume one thing or another
[19:19] <dae43> With 11.10, where would I find the hotkey that runs Win+W? I want to disable that hotkey or plugin or whatever runs that window tiler thing
[19:19] <ManDay> abstrakt: No, I need a WM. Matlab uses several windows
[19:19] <ManDay> Which application manages sources.list for me?
[19:19] <abstrakt> ManDay, uhh, synaptic will
[19:20] <abstrakt> ManDay, or you could just edit it by hand
[19:20] <ManDay> abstrakt: more cli less gui, perhaps?
[19:20] <ManDay> abstrakt: I don't trust myself
[19:20] <abstrakt> ManDay, vim :)
[19:20] <abstrakt> ah, I dunno, then look at aptitude I guess
[19:20] <ManDay> abstrakt: I meant something that writes the *correct* sources in tere for me
[19:20] <abstrakt> ManDay, you can sudo add-apt-repository ppa:some/link
[19:20] <abstrakt> ManDay, if you have a ppa to link to that is
[19:20] <ManDay> is there an official list of the different repos somewhere?
[19:20] <ManDay> (i want to add universe)
[19:21] <abstrakt> ManDay, uhh, well at least for me, both universe and multiverse were enabled after I fresh installed
[19:21] <abstrakt> ManDay, in terms of enabling them, it's really easy to do with synaptic, I'm not sure if aptitude can manage repos
[19:21] <pfifo> abstrakt, minimial install only gives you main
[19:21] <abstrakt> pfifo, ahh sure
[19:21] <ManDay> abstrakt: I'm starting off from a minimal system from debootstrap
[19:22] <abstrakt> ManDay, well I can just give you the lines for universe and multiverse... i.e. I can pastebin my sources.list if you like
[19:22] <abstrakt> ManDay, 11.10?
[19:22] <ManDay> abstrakt: yes
[19:22] <ManDay> abstrakt: Please do so
[19:22] <abstrakt> ManDay, it's really simple syntax: deb https://somelinkhere/foo/bar distroname main
[19:22] <pfifo> can i see your sources.list too?
[19:22] <abstrakt> k, one sec
[19:22] <ManDay> I have a hard time finding another source. Ubuntu.com just refers one to synaptics
[19:22] <xk00zx> BluesKaj - ok, done and done - what should i be typing to enable sound for ffmpeg?
[19:23] <BluesKaj> !ffmpeg | xk00zx
[19:23] <pfifo> ManDay, ill sow you my sources.list if you show me your make.conf
[19:23] <CharminTheMoose> I'm having a problem firefox and X's sloppy focus. The menus (File, Edit, View) and the right click menu just disappear when mousing over them, so I can't click on anything in those menus, though surfing the web works fine, for the most part.
[19:23] <xk00zx> !ffmpeg
[19:23] <ManDay> Your paste can be seen here: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/521827/
[19:23] <ManDay> oops
[19:23] <ManDay> dont click that
[19:23] <ManDay> Your paste can be seen here: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/521828/
[19:23] <ManDay> there, go click that
[19:24] <abstrakt> ManDay, pfifo: http://pastie.org/private/y2h3dvq2ivvjkky2svyjg
[19:24] <xk00zx> BluesKaj - i'm sorry - i'm still rather new at this - was just looking for a way to record minecraft videos here as opposed to on windows... I didn't understand your last
[19:24] <pfifo> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/521830/
[19:25] <CupOfCocoa> Hey guys, I just installed Ubuntu on a VM (on OS X Lion) and I would like to learn some of the basics but with a strict focus on command line (I intend to learn how to run a webserver & related services such as MySQL based on Ubuntu, not using it as my everyday desktop with a GUI). Any hints for any great introductory texts or videos? Know some basic bash but not much
[19:25] <h00k> xk00zx: there's gtkrecordmydesktop
[19:25] <ManDay> abstrakt: pfifo's one helps me better, since I'm one ontricip
[19:25] <ManDay> or what it's called again
[19:25] <ManDay> thanks though ;)
[19:26] <pfifo> ManDay, -python!! you communist
[19:26] <abstrakt> ManDay, http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Openbox
[19:26] <BluesKaj> xk00zx, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=786095
[19:26] <ManDay> pfifo: I'm currently in the process of being converted to python...
[19:26] <h00k> !info gtk-recordmydesktop | xk00zx
[19:26] <abstrakt> ManDay, ? ontricip? you mean oneiric?
[19:26] <abstrakt> ManDay, I'm on oneiric as well, you mean 11.10?
[19:26] <BlauskaerM> CupOfCocoa: Start with a quick search in youtube :)
[19:26] <Jerrry> Why is it that I downloaded Ubuntu and it's called ubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.iso?
[19:26] <Jerrry> I am running Intel, not AMD.
[19:26] <pfifo> ManDay, sed s/lucid/oneiric/
[19:26] <ManDay> pfifo: I've long hated python for it's whitespace policy. I guess I still hate it but my psychologist helps me supressing that hate
[19:26] <abstrakt> Jerrry, it's not a problem
[19:26] <nullie> Hello. Why aptitude suggests to remove libacl1 which depends on libc6 (>= 2.4), while libc6 at version 2.13-20ubuntu5 ?
[19:27] <Jerrry> Oh, thanks.
[19:27] <jack> http://ubuntu.virginmedia.com/releases//oneiric/ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso keeps timing out - is there an alternarive i could use?
[19:27] <abstrakt> Jerrry, that's just what it's called, don't worry about it, you're fine
[19:27] <ManDay> abstrakt: ah ok
[19:27] <abstrakt> ManDay, did you read my paste?
[19:27] <abstrakt> it says oneiric all over the place in there
[19:27] <abstrakt> every source says "oneiric" after the URL
[19:27] <jack> http://ubuntu.virginmedia.com/releases//oneiric/ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso keeps timing out - is there an alternative i could use?
[19:27] <CupOfCocoa> BlauskaerM: Thanks, will take a look. From first glance most seemed very much based on the GUI though
[19:28] <nullie> jack, try torrents?
[19:28] <ManDay> abstrakt: your sources.list?
[19:28] <jack> i want oneiric :(
[19:28] <xk00zx> h00k - I was playing with that a bit - couldn't get the framerate down to a decent speed for playback- it was sped up. I can get a good looking video with ffmpeg  (also using the kx11grab front end - just inputs command for ffmpeg) but no sound....
[19:28] <abstrakt> ManDay, yes my sources.list
[19:28] <jack> torrents? hrm
[19:28] <jack> ubuntu is free
[19:28] <abstrakt> jack, yeah I always download ubuntu via torrent
[19:28] <abstrakt> jack, it's so much faster
[19:28] <abstrakt> jack, and what about it?
[19:28] <xk00zx> BluesKaj - I'll run through that - thank you for your help
[19:28] <ManDay> abstrakt: yes, of course i read it
[19:29] <abstrakt> jack, are you assuming that people only use torrents for illegal downloads of non-free software?
[19:29] <jack^_> wat
[19:29] <BlauskaerM> CupOfCocoa: Or a good start is to google up problems that you have. So if you want to set up a webserver/mysql-server start looking tutorials on that. Most of the time people often use the commandline to do this so it should not be so hard to find :)
[19:29] <abstrakt> jack, because I personally am not a pirate
[19:29] <ManDay> anyone good with ed?
[19:29] <nullie> jack, http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[19:29] <abstrakt> lol, ed
[19:29] <ManDay> eh wait, i dont even have ed
[19:29] <ManDay> But SED, I have sed...
[19:29] <jack> abstrakt: i want a working http download
[19:29] <ManDay> cat and sed :-/
[19:29] <abstrakt> ahh, well, what do you want to know about sed
[19:30] <nullie> jack, then try another mirror
[19:30] <ManDay> or... i could just use vim outside of the chroot
[19:30] <ManDay> *facepalm*
[19:30] <abstrakt> ManDay, I believe #sed exists... and sed just uses BRE/ERE
[19:30] <h00k> xk00zx: gotcha, missed that. carry on!
[19:30] <jack> but thx nullie
[19:30] <CupOfCocoa> BlauskaerM: Yeah will probably do that, learning by doing always works best :) Thx!
[19:30] <ManDay> abstrakt: Nah, I'm fine. info sed is all one may ask for, thanks ;)
[19:30] <Jerrry> Once I install Linux, is it going to let me boot back into Windows?
[19:30]  * abstrakt hates BRE/ERE
[19:30] <abstrakt> so useless :(
[19:31] <abstrakt> Jerrry, yes
[19:31] <lolol^> Hey guys...!
[19:31] <BlauskaerM> CupOfCocoa: You can start with this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_R_JSiupzo ;)
[19:31] <lolol^> My eog (eye of gnome) is broken
[19:31] <Jerrry> And the Ubuntu installer will help me partition, right?
[19:31] <abstrakt> Jerrry, yes it will help you partition
[19:31] <Jerrry> Sweet.
[19:31] <Jerrry> Be back later if it works.
as long as u dont wipe out ur windows partition
[19:31] <Jerrry> Yeah.
[19:31] <abstrakt> Jerrry, there are a few different partitioning options - I always use "manual"
[19:31] <soreau> lolol^: How did you break it?
[19:31] <Jerrry> I'll be careful not to do that.
[19:32] <abstrakt> Jerrry, or rather, I think it's called "something else" in the ubuntu installer
[19:32] <Jerrry> k
[19:32] <abstrakt> Jerrry, literally, it says at the bottom
[19:32] <abstrakt> Jerrry, 'Something Else'
[19:32] <lolol^> Doesn't come up... ERROR: "GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: [sth w. timeout]"
[19:32] <Jerrry> Alright.
[19:32] <abstrakt> Jerrry, and that will let you do manual partitioning
[19:32] <Jerrry> Thanks, abstrakt.
[19:32] <lolol^> soreau, Don't know...
[19:32] <Jerrry> Going to try now.
[19:32] <abstrakt> Jerrry, I think there may likely be an option to automatically resize your windows partition
[19:32] <lolol^> I am on 11.10 gnome
[19:32] <abstrakt> lolol^, i'm so sorry for you :P
[19:33] <ManDay> So... where exactly is documented how sources.list works? I don't quite get the hang of it
[19:33] <lolol^> soreau, I even reinstalled the eog package...
[19:33] <abstrakt> er, well sorry taht you have to use gnome XD
[19:33] <abstrakt> ManDay, what is there to understand/
[19:33] <abstrakt> ManDay, deb <SOMEURLGOESHERE> <NAMEOFYOURDISTROGOESHERE> main
[19:33] <abstrakt> ManDay, that's it
[19:33] <pfifo> ManDay, man sources.list
[19:33] <ManDay> for example what is the difference between   deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric multiverse   and deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-updates multiverse
[19:33] <soreau> lolol^: What happens when you try to run it from terminal?
[19:33] <ManDay> pfifo: Ah ok - I didn't have that on my minimal install
[19:33] <abstrakt> ManDay, one is updates the other is not?
[19:34] <ManDay> abstrakt: Meaning what?
[19:34] <abstrakt> ManDay, I believe diff would tell you that "-updates" is the difference
[19:34] <lolol^> THis error (I am on german): GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: Zeitüberschreitung wurde erreicht
[19:34] <pfifo> ManDay, install manpages-en
[19:34] <lolol^> soreau, Sth like "Timelimit reached"
[19:34] <ManDay> abstrakt: That concept is foreign to me. Why are updates in a separate repository?
[19:34] <abstrakt> ManDay, well one repo is going to be the sort of "official" repo as you might think of it
[19:34] <ManDay> What happens with the data in the non-updates repo?
[19:35] <abstrakt> ManDay, because the CD has to have the same packages
[19:35] <abstrakt> ManDay, the freshly installed system needs to basically be the same
[19:35] <soreau> lolol^: Can you pastebin the complete output to paste.ubuntu.com?
[19:35] <lolol^> That was the complete output ^^
[19:35] <abstrakt> ManDay, what happens if an update breaks your system?
[19:35] <abstrakt> ManDay, I think that possibility is the main rationale for separating updates in to their own repo
[19:35] <ManDay> abstrakt: So basically once all of my packages have been updated at least once, I have no more packages from the non-update repository?
[19:36] <lolol^> soreau, Exactly this one line
[19:36] <abstrakt> ManDay, extensive testing goes in to all of the specific package versions that get realeased as 11.10
[19:36] <ManDay> How is the relation between XYZ and XYZ-updates established? Is it a naming convention?
[19:36] <soreau> lolol^: It just says "Timelimit reached" and returns?
[19:36] <abstrakt> ManDay, well, no, plenty of packages may exist in the non-update repo that you haven't installed yet
[19:36] <pfifo> can i `wget -r -q -H -l 0 - * > /dev/fd0` to fet the entire internet on a floppy?
[19:37] <ManDay> abstrakt: Yes, but an install from CD always has all packages \in non-update which then gradually become packages \in updates, right?
[19:37] <soreau> pfifo: yes
[19:37] <lolol^> soreau, "GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: Zeitüberschreitung wurde erreicht"
[19:37] <ManDay> pfifo: of course, what a question
[19:37] <ManDay> pfifo: I'd pipe it through tar or gzip, if I were you though.
[19:37] <abstrakt> ManDay, I dunno, I don't package stuff
[19:37] <ManDay> The internet is quite big
[19:37] <lolol^> soreau, Yes, with this prefix...
[19:38] <pfifo> i have a 720k so im good
[19:38] <abstrakt> ManDay, and yes I'm sure that it's naming convention related
[19:38] <ManDay> abstrakt: Ok, in more practical terms: Would it suffice for me to add the ...-updates repository?
[19:38] <abstrakt> ManDay, when you sudo apt-get install, the package name doesn't include the version
[19:38] <abstrakt> ManDay, you mean only add updates?
[19:38] <abstrakt> ManDay, I dunno
[19:38] <abstrakt> ManDay, not all packages are necessarily going to have updates
[19:39] <abstrakt> ManDay, is it a problem?
[19:39] <soreau> lolcat: Does the output of 'date' show your date/time settings are correct?
[19:39] <ManDay> I still don't see the point in this, that's my problem. Why there are separate repos for updates and ... "non-updates"
[19:39] <abstrakt> ManDay, like, is there some reason you need to do things differently from the way ubuntu has been doing it for years?
[19:39] <ManDay> abstrakt: Lol, no.
[19:39] <CupOfCocoa> As a first time linux user the "lost+found" dir cracks me up, what creative use have you guys found for it over the years? And why the hell is it even there in the first place?
[19:39] <lolol^> soreau, Just found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1869052&page=2
[19:40] <abstrakt> ManDay, because not all packages are gonna have updates, and updates might break the system, and you need to have a canonical stable/frozen list of packages and versions that make up a given distro
[19:40] <soreau> lolol^: Yea I'm finding reports too
[19:40] <abstrakt> ManDay, you have to have a definition of what exactly 10.10 is vs what 11.04 etc etc
[19:40] <tamer> Hello, How can I open a window on a remote display via ssh (Yes, I don't want to see the window, I want it viewed on the remote machine).
[19:40] <abstrakt> ManDay, seriously you're over thining this way too much
[19:40] <pfifo> CupOfCocoa, its part of the e2fsck system, if you get a inode that dosent have an associated file, then it will be put in lost&found
[19:40] <ManDay> abstrakt: ok
[19:40] <a3r0_> does anyone know how to setup assault cube server? on ubuntu i have the game working but i have a home server and i cant get it too setup the ac
[19:40] <CupOfCocoa> pfifo: Ah, that actually makes sense, thanks a lot!
[19:40] <abstrakt> ManDay, you're trying to solve a problem that you haven't even yet encountered - heck you're trying to solve a problem that you don't even know what the problem IS
[19:41] <ManDay> indeed. that's me.
[19:41] <abstrakt> ManDay, if you want to know these things, go join the ubuntu developers mailing list
[19:41] <ManDay> Anticipate EVERYTHING!
[19:41] <jose__> Hi I am new to Ubuntu.  I need help in configuring my WiFi.  I have a Presario V2000 that has a built-in 05:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corp BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02).  running lshw Shows the following:   *-network:1 UNCLAIMED
[19:41] <jose__>        description: Network controller
[19:41] <jose__>        product: BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller
[19:41] <jose__>        vendor: Broadcom Corporation
[19:41] <jose__>        physical id: 2
[19:41] <FloodBot1> jose__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:41] <jose__>        bus info: pci@0000:05:02.0
[19:41] <abstrakt> ManDay, premature optimization is the root of all evil, so sayeth the Lord Knuth thy God and Savior (TM)
[19:41] <h00k> !wireless | jose__
[19:42] <soreau> lolol^: This seems to suggest downgrading glib to a stable version will fix it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eog/+bug/880227
[19:42] <pfifo> !b43 | jose__
[19:42] <ManDay> abstrakt: I consider myself a lord of premature, ridicolous, over-optimization
[19:42] <BluesKaj> ManDay , that's not anticipation , thats; creating a problem where one doesn't exist or probly won't in the future either ..enough!
[19:42] <ManDay> BluesKaj: Okay ;p
[19:42] <abstrakt> BluesKaj++
[19:43] <lolol^> sordina, Thx for that link...
[19:43] <BluesKaj> that's my sound-off for today :)
[19:43] <Kimble> Someone recommend a user-friendly radio streamer for the command line?
[19:43] <soreau> lolol^: and it has a new version of eog with a fix
[19:43] <a3r0_> i'm having trouble setting up an assault cube server on my ubuntu 10.04 server? i have the game working but i'm confused about the server?
[19:44] <a3r0_> does anyone have any idea why the game works but the server wont install ac?
[19:44] <abstrakt> Kimble, user friendly and command line don't really go together
[19:44] <ManDay> !info nm-applet
[19:44] <ManDay> Well.
[19:44] <jose__> pfifo I have spent two days trying to do this through the docs.  I at wits end.  HELP
[19:45] <ManDay> I could have sworn....
[19:45] <Kimble> abstrakt: I want an app that doesn't just work with URLs, ie. m3u, pls files etc.
[19:45] <pfifo> jose__, whats not working?
[19:45] <ManDay> !info xfce
[19:45] <ManDay> abstrakt: ^ ?
[19:45] <abstrakt> Kimble, http://google.com/search?q=linux+command+line+internet+radio
[19:45] <pfifo> !info xfce4
[19:45] <lolol^> Ok, downloaded the precise package, lets see...
[19:45] <Kimble> abstrakt: fuck off.
[19:46] <pfifo> !language | Kimble
[19:46] <ManDay> nvm, found it
[19:46] <abstrakt> Kimble, that's not gonna get you much of anywhere
[19:46] <abstrakt> ManDay, sudo apt-cache search xfce | grep -i ^xfce
[19:46] <Kimble> Can someone who isn't a disrespectful pillock help me out?
[19:46] <ManDay> abstrakt: thanks. i already notices its xfce4
[19:46]  * Kimble is sick of responses like those from abstrakt 
[19:46] <jose__> I don't know what's not working.  I think that I need to load some drivers, but I'm not sure how it is done.
[19:47] <lolol^> soreau, Seems a restart is also needed... Going down for restart...
[19:47] <a3r0_> hey
[19:47] <pfifo> jose__, what version of ubuntu are you on?
[19:47] <ManDay> abstrakt: indeed: xfce -> 329 Megs, gnome (as a dep of gnome-panel) -> 700 megs
[19:47] <abstrakt> Kimble, well you obviously haven't actually googled for this, because I googled for you and found a bunch of stuff
[19:47] <abstrakt> Kimble, people like abstrakt are sick of people like Kimble who don't google
[19:48] <Kimble> abstrakt: I've been googling for the past 45 minutes you jack-ass.
[19:48] <jose__> Latest version just installed it.
[19:48] <Kimble> Go on, you're so smart, what did you find that meats my needs?
[19:48] <abstrakt> Kimble, hahaha, well you fail at googling then apparently
[19:48] <pfifo> jose__, try a `sudo modbrobe wl`
[19:48] <Kimble> abstrakt: and you fail at courtesy. I'd rather fail at googling, frankly.
[19:48] <abstrakt> hahah I fail at courtesy?
[19:48] <lolol^> soreau, Upgrading to newer eog version is working fine!
[19:48] <abstrakt> lol this coming from the person who just told me to f*ck off
[19:49] <Kimble> you still haven't listed the app you found. you won't because you didn't find it. You're full of crap.
[19:49] <BluesKaj> Kimble, no need to for that ...you said you wanted respect , that's not gonna help you get it \
[19:49] <jose__> not found
[19:49] <abstrakt> Kimble, no actually i'm not helping you because you were extremely rude
[19:49] <abstrakt> Kimble, good day, sir
[19:49] <Kimble> BluesKaj: neither does patience or courtesy. I'm sick of the treatment people dish out on IRC.
[19:49] <abstrakt> Kimble, so leave
[19:49] <pfifo> jose__, `sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source`
[19:49] <Kimble> abstrakt: so ignore me.
[19:50] <shovell> could anyone help me deactivate a mouse?
[19:50] <abstrakt> Kimble, nah, i have no real problems with you, i'm just not gonna help you now that you've become a whiny vampire
[19:50] <ManDay> lxde is also gtk, only, right?
[19:50] <abstrakt> ManDay, yes
[19:50] <Kimble> anyone with pubes able to help?
[19:50] <ManDay> thanks abstrakt
[19:50] <abstrakt> ManDay, er, well I don't think lxde precludes you from running KDE apps
[19:50] <sskalnik> With this section of a makefile http://paste.ubuntu.com/772589/ I get these errors  http://paste.ubuntu.com/772590/when building with pbuilder.
[19:50] <ManDay> abstrakt: Yeah, i guess i would have to pull qt then
[19:50] <antivirtel> theadmin abstrakt there are a lots of pros and contras between ThinkPad E525(http://www.lenovo.com/products/us/laptop/thinkpad/thinkpad-edge/e525/) and IdeaPad V470 (http://shop.lenovo.com/gbweb/gb/en/learn/products/lifestyle/ideapad/v-series/v470/)... E+: has a good keyboard, useful outputs, good price; E-: GPU <> V+: has better CPU&GPU, V-: worse keyboard, 3 USB, smaller display - any suggestions?
[19:50] <abstrakt> ManDay, of course that would require installing KDE, which takes a huge amount of space
[19:50] <ManDay> i hope that lxde doesnt pull qt by itsself
[19:51] <abstrakt> ManDay, Qt != KDE
[19:51] <abstrakt> Qt is great, KDE sucks
[19:51] <pfifo> ManDay, lxde uses whatever gets the job done in the least amount of bytes
[19:51] <ManDay> pfifo: Pretty much what I need.
[19:52] <ManDay> is network-manager gnome specific or will it work with lxde?
[19:52] <murfie> hi
[19:52] <abstrakt> antivirtel, nope, sorry, really the most important thing to do is to try to research the actual hardware chipsets inside the laptops so you can check if you will have driver support
[19:52] <abstrakt> ManDay, network-manager is not GNOME specific
[19:52] <abstrakt> ManDay, I have it in xfce
[19:52] <Kimble> So one guy acts a cheeky prick, gets told off, now no-one'll help?  I've helped more than a few in IRC in my time, and I was able to do it without being a snot-nosed tit.
[19:52] <ManDay> abstrakt: great
[19:52] <mongy> Kimble, does it have to be command line or will a very minimal gui do?
[19:52] <abstrakt> Kimble, you're really digging yourself deeper you know
[19:52] <antivirtel> abstrakt thanks... nem probléma
[19:52] <abstrakt> Kimble, you're just making no one want to help you
[19:52] <antivirtel> * no problem
[19:52] <ManDay> i guess i'm getting lxde then, given it only uses 180 megs souds perfect for an usb stick
[19:53] <Kimble> mongy: I don't have a a GUI installed. I run entirely over SSH.
[19:53] <ManDay> erm, 387, oops
[19:53] <jose__> Ran the install Command not foune
[19:53] <ManDay> that's more than xfce
[19:53] <Kimble> abstrakt: I find the chances of actually getting help, regardless of my demeanour, is very slim on IRC anyway. I use it as a last resort, for obvious reasons.
[19:54] <mongy> Kimble, shell-fm    ?
[19:54] <abstrakt> ManDay, lxde should "run faster" than xfce, but if it's space you care about, then I guess go with xfce
[19:54] <Kimble> mongy: aha. let me check that out.
[19:54] <BluesKaj> Kimble, and the reason is obvious why you don't get any help :)
[19:54] <soreau> lolol^: Cool ;-)
[19:54] <pfifo> jose__, it said command not found? you must have typed it wrong
[19:54] <Kimble> BluesKaj: lol, don't judge my entire IRC conduct based on one day.
[19:54] <mongy> Kimble, that one is for last.fm streams.
[19:54] <abstrakt> mongy, don't feed the trolls :P
[19:55] <abstrakt> Kimble, we don't have anything else to judge you by
[19:55] <Kimble> Sometimes, you just get sick of the attitudes.
[19:55] <Kimble> abstrakt: why judge at all?
[19:55] <Kimble> just help. That's what the IRC is for.
[19:55] <abstrakt> hahaha, yes we are sick of people like you with attitudes like yours
[19:55] <abstrakt> you are correct, sir
[19:55] <ManDay> abstrakt: D/L xfce as we speak
[19:55] <abstrakt> Kimble, i didn't judge, you judged
[19:55] <Kimble> abstrakt: you really need to find something more important to engage in.
[19:55] <sskalnik> Drop it please.
[19:55] <abstrakt> Kimble, and you have anger issues, you might wanna get that looked at
[19:55] <Kimble> abstrakt: come here and lets do it.
[19:55] <abstrakt> sskalnik, good idea
[19:56] <sskalnik> You two, please take it out of channel
[19:56] <abstrakt> i'm done, Kimble is the one who still can't let it go
[19:56] <Kimble> IRC: the schoolyard of the net.
[19:56] <Flannel> Kimble, abstrakt: Please just drop it, both of you, thanks.
[19:56] <abstrakt> seriously why is everyone bringing me in to this? I stopped
[19:57] <abstrakt> wtf
[19:57] <jose__> pfilo did a cut and paist.  same responce
[19:57] <abstrakt> that's so lame
[19:57] <Kimble> mongy: unfortunately last.fm isn't of much use to me, but thanks for the suggestion.
[19:57] <abstrakt> did you kick Kimble too?
[19:57] <pfifo> jose__, can you pastebin the output?
[19:57] <ManDay> pfifo: Can you imagine any pitfalls when chrooting (mounted proc, sys and dev) into the minimal install and  running apt-get install xfce4 ?
[19:57] <ManDay> I did so and apt-get install xfce returns with errors for basically everything
[19:58] <jose__> jose@jose-Presario-V2000-PV340AV-ABA:~$ sudo modbrobe wl
[19:58] <jose__> sudo: modbrobe: command not found
[19:58] <pfifo> ManDay, yes, it will install udev more than likely, make sure to stop it before you leave chroot or you wont be able to unmount
[19:58] <jack> "modprobe"
[19:58] <jack> use $brain
[19:58] <pfifo> jose__, its `sudo modprobe wl`
[19:58] <ManDay> pfifo: Urgh, I'd like those postinstall-hooks not to start any crap while I'm at it...
[19:59] <Kimble> All the solutions that I can find involve using ip addresses and ports, which is not user-friendly. If there's no alternative, can someone suggest how to extract those details from iTunes radio feeds?
[19:59] <ManDay> Imho a package manager's business is NOT to stop or even start anything
[19:59] <pfifo> ManDay, anytime you install a service that supposed to start at boot it autostarts it
[19:59] <mongy> Kimble, did you try mplayer, its command line
[20:00] <ManDay> pfifo: That's argueably smart
[20:00] <ManDay> Anyway, I don't think that's the trouble here
[20:00] <pfifo> ManDay, ubuntu is made to be easy
[20:00] <Kimble> mongy: I considered it. I was hoping for something with a smaller footprint. It's a 70MB install.  MPG123 is less than a meg, but it requires ip addresses and ports.
[20:00] <abstrakt> lalala, look at me
[20:00] <mongy> Kimble, mplayer http://network.absoluteradio.co.uk/core/audio/aacplus/live.pls?service=a9bb  works,  not tried any fancy schmancy mms or whatever tho
[20:00] <Kimble> mongy: but if it's all there is...
[20:00] <ManDay> Doesn't it lead to collisions in the kernel if apt-get in the Chroot starts another instance of udev while an udev outside of the chroot is already running?
[20:01] <pfifo> ManDay, ive never had any problems
[20:02] <Kimble> mongy: i'm installing now - give me a mo and I'll report back...
[20:02] <dimethyl> ubuntu11 wont recognize my usb audio interface (behringer uca200).. anybody experience something similar?
[20:02] <YeeP> Hello, I have a running install of ubuntu 11.10, with a dual boot running grub2. I would like to format the partition ubuntu is on and run a clean install of the OS. If I just boot up with the live CD and format the partition(s) ubuntu uses to reinstall, will my mutli boot still be functional?
[20:02] <ManDay> I don't understand it. When I apt-get install xfce in the chroot I get errors for  "locale: Cannot set LC_... to default locale: No such file or directory" - but nothing else. But THEN the whole thing ends in "Errors were encountered while processing: <basically all packages that were installed>"  - Ideas?
[20:03] <ManDay> E: Sub-process /ust/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[20:03] <ManDay> /usr, that is
[20:03] <pfifo> ManDay, do `export LC_ALL=C` and `export HOME=/root`
[20:03] <gde33> newbie question: Why are things that don't work not removed from the software center?
[20:03] <jose__> philo this is the out put  WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/b.lacklist, it will be ignored in a future release.
[20:03] <jose__> WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/backlist, it will be ignored in a future release.
[20:03] <eo-helios> dimethyl: most probably an alsa/oss question
[20:03] <abstrakt> gde33, because it's free software and not everyone has time to fix everything
[20:04] <abstrakt> gde33, also, just because it doesn't work for you doesn't mean that it doesn't work for other people
[20:04] <dimethyl> ubuntu10 recognized my usb audio device automatically, could the upgrade have changed the driver?
[20:04] <pfifo> jose__, warnnings are ok, are you able to use the network-applet to connect now?
[20:04] <jose__> how do I do that?
[20:05] <pfifo> there should be a network icon on the panel
[20:05] <gde33> abstrakt: I'm just a newbie, my experience was that everything looks really sexy, runs smoothly but then the software doesn't work because the version are highly outdated?
[20:05] <gde33> abstrakt: It is really so hard to keep that up to date?
[20:05] <abstrakt> gde33, so go buy a mac
[20:05] <pfifo> jose__, there should be a network icon on the panel
[20:05] <Flannel> abstrakt: Please be helpful.
[20:05] <YeeP> lol
[20:06] <ManDay> pfifo: I even ran apt-get install xfce again and it said xfce were already installed. But then it spits out the whole range of errors again....     errror processing dbus (--configure)   followed by several instances of other ocnfigureation errors.
[20:06] <gde33> abstrakt: how do I find whoever is suppose to update the old stuff?
[20:06] <ManDay> Because it can't start Upstart dbus?!
[20:06] <abstrakt> gde33, join the developers' mailing list
[20:06] <ManDay> pfifo: How did you manage? On a non ubuntu host?
[20:06] <abstrakt> gde33, or possible the packagers' mailing list
[20:06] <jose__> if you are talking about the two arrows only the wired network is showing.  not the wifi
[20:06] <pfifo> ManDay, xfce4 is a meta package, run `apt-get remove --purge xfce4` and then retry
[20:06] <gde33> abstrakt: ok, thanks
[20:07] <eo-helios> dimethyl: > ubuntu10 recognized my usb audio device automatically < lsmod for ubuntu 10.10 and for current one
[20:07] <ManDay> pfifo: again, those errors
[20:07] <pfifo> ManDay, it might be that your kernel is too different from ubuntu's
[20:07] <BluesKaj> Kimble, try mpg123 , http://www.linux-magazine.com/content/view/full/44311
[20:07] <ManDay> pfifo: It all starts with the error that it's not able to start dbus via upstart
[20:07] <tamer> How do I resume a session opened on a remote machine?
[20:08] <eo-helios> two possibilities, the driver is not loaded, is loaded but not working
[20:08] <ManDay> pfifo: Hrm... I guess I will have to do all this stuff from the livecd then
[20:08] <Kimble> BluesKaj: I'm already trying it. It requires ports and ip addresses, like I pointed out earlier.
[20:08] <eo-helios> both are worth
[20:08] <Kimble> BluesKaj: pity, cos the footprint is tiny.
[20:08] <ManDay> pfifo: just out of curiosity: did you suceed with it on a non-ubuntu-host=
[20:08] <ManDay> ?
[20:08] <pfifo> jose__, can you paste the output of `lsmod`
[20:09] <eo-helios> both are worse*
[20:09] <pfifo> ManDay, well, cant really compare cause ive only done it from debain, and there pretty much the same
[20:09] <ManDay> abstrakt: Do I need to explicitly install a display manager?
[20:09] <abstrakt> ManDay, no
[20:09] <abstrakt> ManDay, just run startx
[20:09] <ManDay> what?!
[20:09] <ManDay> dude...
[20:09] <mongy> Kimble, what about xmms2?
[20:10] <ManDay> I want a display manager!
[20:10] <ManDay> My prerequisite was to get something equivalent to the standard GNOME desktop with reduced functionality.
[20:10] <ManDay> But it should have at least an equivalent login
[20:10] <BluesKaj> Kimble, well one expects that with a cli app, what's so onerous about copying and pasting URL?
[20:11] <abstrakt> ManDay, uhh... yeah, startx works fine, you just need to know how to configure your session
[20:11] <jose__> pfifo Here it is:   lsmod
[20:11] <jose__> Module                  Size  Used by
[20:11] <jose__> wl                   2646601  0
[20:11] <jose__> lib80211               14570  1 wl
[20:11] <jose__> bnep                   17923  2
[20:11] <FloodBot1> jose__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:11] <jose__> rfcomm                 38408  0
[20:11] <abstrakt> ManDay, a display manager just does some handy stuff to help you configure your session automagically
[20:11] <Kimble> BluesKaj: that's not what I said. it wants PORT and IP ADDRESS. mpg123 doesn't accept URLs.
[20:11] <ManDay> abstrakt: look man that's not an option
[20:11] <pfifo> jose__, please use a pastebin http://fpaste.org
[20:11] <abstrakt> ManDay, so then apt-get install gdm
[20:11] <ManDay> abstrakt: I know very well what a display manager does. I maintain a gentoo system, you remember...
[20:12] <abstrakt> or maybe xdm, I think xdm exists
[20:12] <mongy> Kimble,  xmms2 add url_here then xmms2 play
[20:12] <abstrakt> i don't remember sorry
[20:12] <ManDay> It's just that this usb stick has, for example, to work on tablets where I don't have a keyboard
[20:12] <Kimble> mongy: yeah, I'm just reading through the docs now. Looks promising.
[20:12] <pfifo> jose__, can you paste the output of `iwconfig`
[20:12] <ManDay> (generally speaking: I need the convenience of GNOME - just not the same plethora of tools and features)
[20:12] <_Nano> can someone help me resolve a kernel compiling issue? : http://pastebin.com/7YJEjMdB
[20:12] <Guest84021> hi,anyone have problems with touchpad response under ubuntu?
[20:12] <ManDay> Guest84021: Be specific
[20:13] <abstrakt> ManDay, sudo apt-get install xdm
[20:13] <abstrakt> ManDay, http://google.com/search?q=ubuntu+xdm
[20:13] <ManDay> abstrakt: I don't recall off hand, is xdm the one that I get on a standard ubuntu?
[20:13] <ManDay> ok ok
[20:13] <Guest84021> touchpad freezes at times
[20:14] <ManDay> Guest84021: Even more specific?
[20:14] <ManDay> What do you mean by "freeze"?
[20:14]  * rarillo byeee
[20:14] <abstrakt> Guest84021, are you sure it's your touchpad and not just your system freezing?
[20:14] <Guest84021> the cursor won't respond to touchpad input,just seems to happen randomly
[20:14] <ManDay> LightDM is the dm of ubuntu
[20:15] <Guest84021> will sometimes work ok for a while and then freeze
[20:15] <Kimble> mongy: yes, looks promising, and a much smaller footprint than mplayer. just installing now.
[20:15] <ManDay> Guest84021: While you are moving the figure?
[20:15] <powersurge> so in firefox I can't get pandora to go, and it seems to have something to do with ubuntu. are you guys able to get pandora to play music in ff?
[20:15] <powersurge> cause I'm utterly stumped
[20:15] <powersurge> ff on other oses seems to work flawlessly with pandora
[20:15] <Guest84021> i have just updated though,seems ok at present
[20:15] <ManDay> Guest84021: In a 'sensible' fashion or completely (I'm trying to determine whether it could be a Gesture of Finger-Width issue)
[20:15] <Sidewinder1> _Nano, With all of the error messages saying, "No space left on device", could it be a hard-drive "almost-full", issue?
[20:16] <YeeP> can anyone answer my previous question? about the install
[20:16] <DemonWitch> hey
[20:16] <Guest84021> when it happens the cursor is completely unresponsive
[20:16] <_Nano> Sidewinder1: no i have 1TB free and 24GB of ram, plus my swap is 32GB
[20:16] <DemonWitch> if i try apt-get remove something, that is needed by another package. will i get notified?
[20:17] <ManDay> Guest84021: How long does it last?
[20:17] <Flannel> DemonWitch: yeah, you'll get told "you'll also remove all of these! Continue? y/n?"
[20:17] <YeeP> DW: I think it tells you what 'else' it will remove and gives you an option to continue
[20:17] <YeeP> oh, oops
[20:17] <Guest84021> i have to restart to fix it,or plug a mouse in
[20:17] <Sidewinder1> _Nano, Then, that's sure as hack not it; 'twas just a thought.
[20:17] <bobalazs> i'm having a problem. Currently running a vesa driver that is default, though  its a unichrome driver that is supposed to work on this via s3 igp card - but with that i cant see the mouse on the connected external monitor (its a r1004 packard bell laptop
[20:18] <Guest84021> but,i have applied some updates a few minutes ago and ok at present
[20:18] <ManDay> Guest84021: I have to leave now. You may try to use usbmon to check whether you still get signals on the usb port
[20:18] <jose__> pfifo Just figured it out. paste.ubuntu.com/772618
[20:18] <pfifo> _Nano, you might have encounterd a disk error that put the disk in readonly mode, double check `df -h`and if there is room then reebot
[20:18] <Sidewinder1> YeeP, If you simply install to the same partition, GRUB, should re-write correctly for the new install.
[20:18] <ManDay> if not, it's likely a HW issue or at a deep kernel level.
[20:18] <ManDay> Guest84021: ^
[20:18] <Guest84021> ok,thank you
[20:19] <ManDay> np, hope it helps
[20:19] <sskalnik> With this section of a makefile http://paste.ubuntu.com/772589/ I get these errors  http://paste.ubuntu.com/772590/when building with pbuilder. Rather confused as to what is causing the errors.
[20:20] <_Nano> pfifo, Sidewinder1 thanks, I see the issue now I should have been doing it on another partition =/
[20:20] <_Nano> it is infact full.
[20:20] <_Nano> derp.
[20:21] <Crupulus> Hello (newbie) - is the command "ifconfig" what I need to know if my wifi card is recognized ?
[20:22] <nullie> Crupulus, you could use ifconfig -a
[20:22] <YeeP> Sidewinder, thank you. Hoever there are I believe 2 partitions it is instlaled on
[20:22] <YeeP> swap, root and "main"
[20:22] <nullie> Crupulus, but wifi card could be named eth0, so better use iwconfig
[20:23] <Sidewinder1> _Nano, Ah, the partition was full..
[20:23] <_Nano> yeah =/ I wasn't paying attention like I should've
[20:23] <abstrakt> is there no GUI timezone utility in xfce?
[20:23] <Crupulus> nullie, well I have two things displayed there, eth0 which says it's ethernet, and lo (local loopback or something)
[20:24] <nullie> Crupulus, try iwconfig
[20:24] <Crupulus> nullie, but this netbook has a wifi card aswell..
[20:24] <Crupulus> ok ty
[20:24] <Crupulus> sec
[20:24] <Crupulus> "no wireless extension" rawr
[20:24] <abstrakt> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime <- "Time and Date" does not exist in Application -> Settings
[20:24] <Kimble> mongy: unfortunately it doesn't support the URLs that iTunes uses.  I'm going to give up now, it's not worth the hassle. But thanks for the assist.
[20:24] <Crupulus> nullie, would it be a missing driver ?
[20:24] <nullie> Crupulus, try lspci
[20:24] <jose__> pfifo I feel like I need to walk away for a while and try agein latter.  Thanks for your help.
[20:25] <Guest98311> Well, 12.04 alpha seems to work pretty well.
[20:25] <Sidewinder1> _Nano, If you're planning on shrinking or otherwise changing an NTFS partition, don't forget to DEFRAGMENT it at least twice, prior to re-partitioning...
[20:25] <Crupulus> ah there it shows it, the ethernet one (atheros) and the wifi one (broadcom)
[20:25] <nullie> Crupulus, which broadcom model?
[20:25] <nullie> Crupulus, well, you can google it yourself
[20:25] <pfifo> sskalnik, the error looks like line 8
[20:26] <trote> I need to read a text file and only get lines with a certain character in a certain position, which tool is best for this? sed?
[20:26] <pfifo> sskalnik, try this instead: test -f $(DESTDIR)/etc/nslink.conf || cp $(DESTDIR)/etc/nslink.conf $(DESTDIR)/etc/
[20:26] <Guest98311> Anyone else testing 12.04 today?
[20:26] <theadmin> Guest98311: Try #ubuntu+1
[20:27] <Guest98311> ok
[20:27] <Administrateur> hello
[20:27] <Sidewinder1> _Nano, And, god forbid me from mentioning an NTFS partition, in this channel. ;-)
[20:27] <Administrateur> ok
[20:27] <abstrakt> Sidewinder1, there's nothing really wrong with windows, most people here probably use both... and heck most people in ##windows tend to be linux users as well
[20:28] <Sidewinder1> !ask | Administrateur
[20:28] <Flannel> Sidewinder1: eh?  Who said he even had a question to ask?
[20:28] <abstrakt> yeah i was wondering the same
[20:29] <pfifo> sskalnik, but that really dosent make anysense can you pastebin `ls -la /tmp/buildd/nslink-4.28.1/debian/tmp`
[20:29] <bradj> ubottu: seen ondrej?
[20:29] <Sidewinder1> abstrakt, Yes, I'm rather ashamed to admit that, on occasion, I still boot to win.. :-(
[20:29] <donavan01> is there a way to run ubuntu from a flash drive but be able to initally configure it using virtualbox
[20:29] <number17> i like windows7
[20:29] <Administrateur> what ?
[20:29] <abstrakt> Sidewinder1, yeah and I'm saying you can take your OS elitism elsewhere, no one really cares or thinks you're a bigger man because you like to dis windows
[20:29] <xxiao> since when ubuntu deprecate aptitude and favor apt-get/
[20:29] <xxiao> since when ubuntu deprecate aptitude and favor apt-get?
[20:30] <abstrakt> xxiao, since like, forever ago?
[20:30] <abstrakt> aptitude sucks... well the gui sucks... i've heard it "handles deps better"... whatever that means
[20:30] <Sidewinder1> Flannel, He said "Hello", "ok", perhaps it was my mistake; if so, I apologize. :-)
[20:30] <abstrakt> er, not the gui, the "ncurses gui"
[20:30] <xxiao> aptitude is CLI though
[20:30] <Flannel> xxiao: apt-get was always the preferred, but aptitude was removed from the default install in 10.10.
[20:31] <Sidewinder1> abstrakt, Um,.. Er,.. Pardon me?
[20:31] <xxiao> i should say i always use aptitude under console
[20:31] <beblah> hi.. i just installed 11.10, is there a package manager already installed by default?
[20:31] <abstrakt> beblah, yes
[20:31] <nullie> aptitude rocks
[20:31] <beblah> where can i find it?
[20:31] <xxiao> aptitude search mypkg
[20:31] <nullie> apt-get install aptitude
[20:31] <xxiao> aptitude install mypkg
[20:31] <og01> how can i disable that autohiding floaty scrollbar and get my normal ones back agian?
[20:31] <xxiao> works very well, i think it's the preferred method in 8.04 and such
[20:32] <abstrakt> beblah, in the menu?
[20:32] <xxiao> somehow it's not even installed now
[20:32] <Sidewinder1> abstrakt, No elitism here.. Perhaps you may wish to take a look at your self? With all due respect, of course..
[20:32] <Flannel> xxiao: Correct.  You can install it if you would like, or just use apt-get instead.  apt-get install foo, apt-cache search foo, etc.
[20:32] <abstrakt> Sidewinder1, your implicit dissing of windows is in fact OS elitism, i don't care to argue the point because there is no argument
[20:32] <abstrakt> I personally dislike all OSes equally
[20:33] <xxiao> have not used apt-get for a while, what's the way to do 'aptitude search pkg' using apt-get?
[20:33] <beblah> yeah i tried that earlier.. i get the message that aptitude is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[20:33] <abstrakt> I'm an equal opportunity discriminator when it comes to OS
[20:33] <Flannel> xxiao: apt-cache search foo.
[20:33] <Sidewinder1> Agreed. Ignore filter on..
[20:33] <Mumin> Can anyone help me? My network-limit is 2Mbit on a 60Mbit internet (works flawless on Windows 7). Recently installed Ubuntu 10.04 and is still limited on a RTL8111/8168B HIGHLIGHT please! :)
[20:33] <xxiao> apt-cache search foo is just unintuitive
[20:33] <xxiao> why cant apt-get search
[20:33] <sskalnik> pfifo:  I think I figured out the issue; awaiting experiment's results.
[20:34] <mebigfatguy> i am unable to boot up 11.10 in linux 3.0, it boots fine in 2.6.8.... I have a GEForce FX 5200. It boots to a pure purple screen. If i add nomodeset to the boot command, it changes behavior to showing a pure black screen with a blinking cursor. Any idea what else i can try to get it to boot in 3.0?
[20:34] <Flannel> xxiao: because that's not how it is built.
[20:34] <Yoshimitsuc> Hi all :)
[20:34] <og01> abstrakt: both have pros and cons, but linux is better. I'll cite my sources: git.kernel.org
[20:34] <beblah> Package aptitude is not available, but is referred to by another package. <-- :/
[20:34] <xxiao> i hope apt-get can get apt-cache/apt-file all folded in
[20:34] <xxiao> apt-get search foo or apt-get rsearch foo(remote search),or something alike
[20:34] <Mumin> Installed Ubuntu 10.04, can't get up my speed with RTL8111/8168B. Stops at ~2Mbit/s on a 60Mbit/s network. (Works on Windows). Clues?
[20:35] <pfifo> xxiao, ive been asking myself that for ages
[20:35] <xxiao> anyways
[20:35] <Flannel> beblah: That means you likely have your repositories misconfigured.
[20:35] <og01> hey I thought the newish weird scrollbar would be part of the gtk theme, but switching themes i cannot get the ordinary one back? any ideas on how to revert?
[20:35] <pfifo> xxiao, `apt-get search foo` should exist
[20:35] <Yoshimitsuc> I'm very very very hapy, becous my ubuntu not crash when i'm instaled graph drivers :D
[20:35] <beblah> Flannel: how can i sort that out?
[20:35] <pfifo> xxiao, you can add an alias for it in your .bashrc
[20:35] <xxiao> pfifo: try that, E: invliado peration search
[20:36] <abstrakt> og01, nah, linux has just as many problems and bugs as windows and mac
[20:36] <xangua> if you mean overlay scrollbar, there is a webupd8 blog pots that says how og01
[20:36] <Flannel> blind: pastebin the output of `sudo apt-get update`
[20:36] <xxiao> pfifo: of course i can, just saying it's not intuitive, for the most freq used cmds
[20:36] <antivirtel> Does anyone know if a new color laser printer could print good quality photos?
[20:36] <abstrakt> i've seen all three OSes crash and burn, none does a particularly better job than the others
[20:36] <xangua> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[20:36] <beblah> i'm having a very difficult time getting this up and running.. my built in wireless nic is blacklisted by default
[20:36] <Flannel> abstrakt: Again, please be helpful, and please help this channel stay on topic.  Thanks.
[20:36] <xangua> og01: see the link above
[20:36] <ManDay> abstrakt: hey
[20:36] <abstrakt> sigh
[20:36] <donavan01> is there a way to boot from a USB flash drive and have the changes I make to it stay resident the next time I boot with that drive
[20:36] <pfifo> xxiao, i meant `apt-get search foo` dosent exist but it SHOULD!
[20:36] <ManDay> abstrakt: oh come on...
[20:36] <abstrakt> ManDay, yes?
[20:36] <og01> xangua: thanks
[20:36] <xxiao> pfifo: yes, can't agree more
[20:36] <xangua> !persistent | donavan01
[20:36] <Yoshimitsuc> who know how can i custom my windows on ubuntu for 1024x600 resolutions :) ?
[20:37] <ManDay> oh, that sighing wasn't at me, I take it
[20:37] <ManDay> sorry, I guess I'm a little paranoid :P
[20:37] <xxiao> pfifo: do we have a page saying 'most wanted features'
[20:37] <ManDay> abstrakt: I was wondering which thing I will have to install to get something like nm-applet
[20:37] <ManDay> (in xfce4, of coruse)
[20:37] <pfifo> xxiao, as apt-get is debain stuff youll have to add it to a debain wishlist, and debain devs dont really care about ubuntu
[20:38] <og01> abstrakt: I've not tried every distro, but the linux kernel seems very very stable to me
[20:38] <Yoshimitsuc> Ubuntu is the best but i have problem with 1024x600 resolutions :(
[20:38] <donavan01> xangua ... thanks ... any idea if that will work if I create it to run in a virtual machine first?  basically I want to configure it in a virtual machine and then run it live after all the bugs are worked out
[20:38] <floflo2> hi, ubuntu 11.10 how to disable shutdown screen (goal is to show message)
[20:38] <oCean> og01: this channel is not for general discussion. Feel free to /join #ubuntu-offtopic to continue though
[20:38] <ManDay> abstrakt: Do you use nm-applet?
[20:38] <og01> oCean: sorry, abstrakt started it
[20:39] <ManDay> !search nm-applet
[20:39] <oCean> og01: now we're moving on
[20:39] <abstrakt> og01, actually no Sidewinder1 did
[20:39] <oCean> fine, we're all moving on, ok?
[20:39] <K1rk> I have a Ubuntu deployment of a lot of laptops... using Puppet I can push out changes via any CLI commands I can run.  I want to disable suspend so the laptops can't go to sleep. I have been successful in doing so, but now when the lid is closed, there's an error about the laptop "Failing to suspend."  I'd like to globally change the default action when the lid is closed, but it seems to be profile specific.  Is there a command I can run as
[20:39] <K1rk> root to fix this system-wide?
[20:39] <ManDay> Does anyone know which package nm-applet is part of?
[20:40] <K1rk> ManDay: I believe it's a part of network-manager-gnome.
[20:40] <abstrakt> ManDay, I don't know what it's called... in xfce i have a wireless icon that "just shows up" in my system tray
[20:40] <ManDay> K1rk: Thanks. Brings me back to the question which would be the xfce analogon.
[20:40] <abstrakt> ManDay, i'm not sure what puts it in my system tray
[20:41] <ManDay> abstrakt: Process name, perhaps?
[20:41] <beblah> Package 'aptitude' has no installation candidate.
[20:41] <abstrakt> K1rk, the solution... is to use chef :P
[20:41] <beblah> i'm not sure where to go from here
[20:41] <beblah> it's just not there?
[20:41] <Flannel> beblah: Please pastebin the output of `sudo apt-get update`
[20:41] <xk00zx> quit
[20:42] <ManDay> Does apt-get install   automatically install "recommended" packages?
[20:42] <beblah> it's not connected
[20:42] <beblah> that's why i'm doing this.. trying to sort the wifi card
[20:42] <pfifo> ManDay, no
[20:43] <Flannel> ManDay: recommended yes, suggested no.
[20:43] <DarkriftX> I dont really know gnome very well and I am trying to show hidden files in whatever file browser comes default with 11.10 but cant find anywhere to change options in this program. can anyone help?
[20:43] <XiaolinDraconis> ctrl+h
[20:43] <K1rk> ManDay: You may want to look at running apt-get build-dep
[20:43] <Flannel> beblah: Ah, that would make sense then.  You'll need to sort that out first, but you don't need aptitude to sort that out.
[20:43] <VictorCL2> how can I login to ubuntu with normal gnome theme?
[20:43] <xangua> DarkriftX: control+h
[20:44] <VictorCL2> I dont like these icons to the left
[20:44] <K1rk> ManDay: That will build the dependencies for whatever you're installing.
[20:44] <DarkriftX> ok, thanks
[20:44] <K1rk> There are some cases where I have to do that.
[20:44] <XiaolinDraconis> nautilus is the default file manager
[20:44] <ManDay> Flannel: What is the difference? I only know "recommented" from aptitude
[20:44] <xangua> VictorCL2: define normal, if you mean gnome2, is no longer maintained
[20:44] <floflo2> hi, ubuntu 11.10 how to disable shutdown screen (goal is to show message)
[20:44] <VictorCL2> so how can i move the icon bar to the right of screen?
[20:44] <ManDay> network-manager and network-manager-gnome appear to be actually the same package oO
[20:44] <xangua> !who | XiaolinDraconis
[20:45] <xangua> VictorCL2: you can't move the launcher from the fixed position, for now
[20:45] <VictorCL2> ¬¬
[20:45] <Flannel> ManDay: The Recommends field should list packages that would be found together with this one in all but unusual installations.
[20:46] <pfifo> VictorCL2, flip you LCD upside down ^^
[20:46] <VictorCL2> wtf .. why cant you move it¿
[20:46] <jutnux> xangua: I thought you could use MyUnity? If we are talking about Unity that is.
[20:46] <Flannel> ManDay: Suggests is used to declare that one package may be more useful with one or more others. Using this field tells the packaging system and the user that the listed packages are related to this one and can perhaps enhance its usefulness, but that installing this one without them is perfectly reasonable.
[20:46] <XiaolinDraconis> VictorCL2, you could use a dock of some sort
[20:46] <ManDay> Flannel: So if that's what apt-get does. Does aptitude install suggested packages? There is no such setting
[20:46] <VictorCL2> while isntalling ubuntu it says that is the most flexible operating system .. where you can change anything you want
[20:46] <pfifo> VictorCL2, file it as a bug at launchpad
[20:47] <XiaolinDraconis> i would like to know more about compiling from source. can someone throw me in the right direction?
[20:47] <XiaolinDraconis> such as requirements and advantages
[20:47] <Flannel> ManDay: I have no idea what aptitude does.  apt-get installs recommends because it's configured to do so (and it says 'these packages are suggested'), you can change that behavior if you want to.
[20:47] <auronandace> !compile | XiaolinDraconis
[20:47] <pfifo> !compile | XiaolinDraconis
[20:47] <XiaolinDraconis> ty
[20:48] <ManDay> Is it possible to remove all packages which are suggested or recommented but not actually required?
[20:48] <VictorCL2> on my wireless .it ways "firmware missing"
[20:48] <yeehaw> ManDay: apt-get autoremove removes all packages that are not used for anything
[20:48] <robin0800> VictorCL2: you can get it on the bottom but its a hack
[20:49] <VictorCL2> how can I fix this :( .. is a lenovo s12 netbook
[20:50] <pfifo> ManDay, run `apt-get moo`
[20:50] <VictorCL2> I did this -> http://www.randomitguy.com/2011/05/ubuntu-1104-and-lenovo-ideapad-s12.html   <-- now I get "firmware missing"
[20:50] <Corey> VictorCL2: That's unfortunate.
[20:50] <Benkinooby> VictorCL2, i have an lenovo idepad s12 and everything goes fine
[20:50] <VictorCL2> Benkinooby how did you make the wireless work?
[20:51] <Corey> Probably the nonfree firmware. :-)
[20:51] <Benkinooby> VictorCL2, oh, sorry, i just saw you are using ubuntu 11.04 - i use ubuntu 10.04 - but i guess your version should even be better
[20:51] <VictorCL2> I am using ubuntu 11.10
[20:51] <Benkinooby> VictorCL2, what ubuntu do you use?
[20:51] <yeehaw> Victor12: remove "blacklist acer_wmi" from /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf"
[20:51] <Benkinooby> ok
[20:51] <yeehaw> Victor12: reboot
[20:51] <ManDay> when I try to apt-get  linux-generic it also wants to pull in grub - is that normal?
[20:52] <pfifo> ManDay, yes
[20:52] <yeehaw> Victor12 or in other words, reverse what you just did.
[20:52] <floflo2> hi, ubuntu 11.10 how to disable shutdown screen (goal is to show message) > any help or google keyword ?
[20:52] <VictorCL2> ok
[20:52] <ManDay> pfifo: So GRUB is an actualy *dependency* or just suggested or recommented?
[20:53] <blipblip> Its a dependancy if you want to boot your OS!
[20:53] <murfie> yawn
[20:53] <abstrakt> ManDay, er, what else would you use instead of grub?
[20:53] <abstrakt> ManDay, lilo?
[20:53] <ManDay> abstrakt: that is indeed what I use
[20:53] <abstrakt> ManDay, er, well I guess you are on a USB stick aren't you
[20:54] <abstrakt> oh, ok, well ubuntu uses grub by default, has for a long time now I think
[20:54] <ManDay> abstrakt: Correct, but I use LILO for everything
[20:54] <abstrakt> actually it uses grub2
[20:54] <beblah> hi, could i get some advice on this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/38327/broadcom-bcm4311-wireless-not-working
[20:54] <abstrakt> ManDay, yeah I dunno, you might not be able to get around that
[20:54] <beblah> this is my wireless card, it's blacklisted by default it seems
[20:54] <ManDay> abstrakt: I would have reckoned you would use LILO, since you are all up for lightweight and GRUB is nothing but bloat
[20:54] <abstrakt> ManDay, you might have to explicitly rerun the lilo MBR thingie
[20:54] <ManDay> abstrakt: I just wanted to know
[20:54] <beblah> i'm trying to follow to the steps to no avail
[20:54] <abstrakt> ManDay, uhh... nah, i don't care about lightweight that much, I would have used unity if it didn't suck so bad :)
[20:55] <VictorCL2> ok yeehaw but I cant activate the wireless
[20:55] <abstrakt> ManDay, i moved to XFCE because it's closer to GNOME2
[20:55] <VictorCL2> is disabled
[20:55] <pfifo> ManDay, dpkg-query -W <deb file> will tell you some info about it
[20:55] <abstrakt> ManDay, and as an added bonus it's a lot faster
[20:55] <abstrakt> ManDay, I don't have particular space constraints, I have a decent sized HD and RAM
[20:55] <beblah> i'm trying to get apt-get to follow the steps but i can't do it
[20:55] <beblah> trying to use, even
[20:55] <abstrakt> geoffmcc, BluesKaj, hey what were you guys talking about with the blacklist thing?
[20:56] <yeehaw> VictorCL2: what does iwconfig give you?
[20:56] <abstrakt> beblah, I actually have the 4311 as well, and I just got it  to work
[20:56] <abstrakt> beblah, do you have the STA driver installed from "Additional Drivers" ?
[20:56] <beblah> i don't have anything installed that wasn't in the cd image
[20:57] <beblah> i'm assuming that wasn't installed by default?
[20:57] <VictorCL2> wlan0 IEEE 802.11bg EESID:off/any
[20:57] <pfifo> ManDay, sorry dpkg -I <deb file> is what im thinking of
[20:58] <yeehaw> VictorCL2: iwconfig wlan0 up
[20:58] <celltech> Since #vmware are fags! Maybe you can answer. Why is it not 'legal' to run a Mac OS VM?
[20:58] <yeehaw> VictorCL2: after that pls give me the ifconfig output in pastebin
[20:58] <Lufti_oO> hi ;)
[20:58] <VictorCL2> iwconfig: unknown command "up"
[20:58] <beblah> abstrakt: can i download it to a flashdrive and install from that?
[20:58] <beblah> the STA driver?
[20:58] <Myrtti> celltech: a) please no name calling and behave b) because Mac OSX licence allows it to be run only on the original hardware, AFAIK.
[20:59] <yeehaw> VictroCL2: Did you put wlan0 in the command?
[20:59] <VictorCL2> yes
[20:59] <celltech> Myrtti Well that's poo.. I need iTunes again and it runs best on Mac
[20:59] <yeehaw> what the
[20:59] <inashdeen> hi, anyone here knows what happen to basta project?
[20:59] <floflo2> (disable shutdown splash ???) Is it so complicated ? No one seem to know
[20:59] <tobbes> greetings I'm trying to kill a process that is running httpd
[21:00] <tobbes> but when I try it says no such process
[21:00] <jutnux> celltech: I'm sure the Windows version wouldn't kill you :-) What OS are you on at the minute?
[21:00] <yeehaw> VictorCL2: Err.. my bad. ifconfig wlan0 up
[21:00] <celltech> Myrtti Did that but my oracle keeps corrupting
[21:00] <inashdeen> second, anyone here knows how didi hotot uses html in its application.i am trying to do just the same. making a gui with html and then run bash scripts from it
[21:00] <tobbes> has anybody had any problems building apache2 from source on ubuntu 11?
[21:00] <abstrakt> beblah, you don't want the STA driver, you want the b34 driver
[21:01] <VictorCL2> SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory
[21:01] <abstrakt> beblah, go to Applications -> Settings -> Additional Drivers
[21:01] <abstrakt> beblah, is the STA driver both present and "activated"? it will have a green circle if it is activated.
[21:02] <beblah> abstrakt: it only says No proprietary drivers are installed
[21:02] <VictorCL2> yeehaw SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory
[21:02] <Callum> Guys, could anybody tell me the minimum RAM for a Ubuntu installation?
[21:02] <abstrakt> beblah, ok good
[21:02] <Callum> Is it 64 MB or 32 MB RAM?
[21:02] <abstrakt> beblah, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[21:02] <xangua> Callum: i would guess 512
[21:02] <yeehaw> VictorCL2: sec
[21:02] <Callum> Oh, did it used to be different?
[21:02] <abstrakt> beblah, sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer
[21:03] <abstrakt> beblah, then reboot, and hopefully your card should "just work"
[21:03] <oCean> Callum: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[21:03] <jutnux> 384mb Callum
[21:03] <Callum> That's recommended
[21:03] <Lufti_oO> I have big problem while installing ubuntu 11.10 64bit: The install assistant is still open. Its command line says "ready if you are". The assistants current form it displays is "Keyboard layout" where you have to choose your lazout. I did that, klicked continue, everything is now grayed out (no back or continue possible) and nothing happens. I waited one hour.
[21:03] <abstrakt> beblah, I just did this about an hour ago
[21:03] <Lufti_oO> anz idea?
[21:03] <Benkinooby> yeehaw, VictorCL2 i know that message.. hard to find with google, but the solution is a oneliner
[21:03] <Callum> I saw another page somewhere, saying the bare minimum
[21:03] <beblah> abstrakt: ok, but my only option is to connect via ethernet at this point?
[21:03] <xangua> Callum: you may be confused with 'minimal instalation'
[21:03] <beblah> to install the 2 packages with apt-get
[21:03] <pfifo> Callum, you can get by with much less bu youll have to use the alternat installer and no Xorg
[21:03] <jutnux> Although it'd be as slow as heck.
[21:03] <abstrakt> beblah, yes, you will need to connect via ethernet
[21:03] <abstrakt> beblah, yes
[21:03] <jutnux> Callum: XFCE runs on 384mb though, quite well too.
[21:04] <beblah> ok thanks for the link, very helpful
[21:04] <beblah> bbl :)
[21:04] <xangua> pfifo: the alternate will just install normal desktop, not a lighter one :/
[21:04] <abstrakt> Lufti_oO, try rebooting and do it again maybe. I had some strange issues with the ubuntu installer and I just rebooted and tried again and it was fine
[21:04] <Benkinooby> yeehaw, VictorCL2 http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/ip-alias-siocsifflags-cannot-assign-requested-address-912985/ see the second post
[21:04] <xk00zx> Hello - fairly new to ubuntu, came in earlier with a sound issue for recording with ffmpeg - after installing and moving around a bunch of packages, I didn't feel like it was helping, however, it seemed to fix "Desktop Recorder" (wasn't able to use it before going down the ffmpeg route - video was sped up). Now I can record, and get audio, but only from the first device setup in alsamixer - (line OR microphone) - is there a way to record
[21:04] <xk00zx>  both?
[21:05] <pfifo> xangua, i mean in the final install, he wont be able to use X
[21:05] <abstrakt> xk00zx, what kind of recording are you doing?
[21:05] <abstrakt> xk00zx, are you actually doing live streaming, or are you more like a "recording studio" where you record musicians and the mix things together?
[21:05] <Benkinooby> yeehaw, VictorCL2 oh, srry, that was for an other siocsifflag error
[21:06] <xk00zx> abstrakt - Minecraft video for youtube - its a java game
[21:06]  * Tech-1 Please deposit obsolete microsoft products to you're nearest green box trash receptacle and enjoy Ubuntu linux.
[21:06] <yeehaw> VictorCL2: Please give me lspci -v in a pastebin. Not in chat
[21:06] <Lufti_oO> abstrakt, thanks!
[21:06] <abstrakt> I have heard of Minecraft, I have not yet played it
[21:06] <abstrakt> minecraft is java?
[21:06] <VictorCL2> ok
[21:06] <ssdrd> hello, on my ubuntu server localhost seems to be broken . After reboot "ping localhost" won't return anything until I do ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 manually. Does anyone know how to fix that?
[21:06] <yeehaw> Benkinooby: thx anyway
[21:06] <oCean> Tech-1: please don't post such nonsense here
[21:06] <xk00zx> abstrakt it is - runs fine no matter what os - one of the reasons i felt comfortable switching from windows is i could still play minecraft.
[21:07] <pfifo> xk00zx, linux dosent have a good alternative to fraps
[21:07] <yeehaw> VictorCL2: error seems to relate with the firmware nog being correctly loaded from the driver. So let's see if we can fix that
[21:07] <VictorCL2> ok thanks a lot
[21:07] <abstrakt> xk00zx, so how does ffmpeg relate?
[21:07] <abstrakt> actually gtg in for a bit... bbl
[21:07] <xk00zx> pfifo - agreed, i'm making it work so far with "Desktop Recorder" - just having issues with the audio - i'm quite impressed with the quality however.
[21:08] <Benkinooby> yeehaw, just saw that it is a driver thing
[21:08] <xk00zx> abstrakt - not exactly sure - although i was attempting to use ffmpeg as a recorder, and went down quite a list of adding packages from an older ubuntu help thread on ffmpeg - and i think it helped the program Desktop Recorder - not sure what I did, but it works now.
[21:09] <yeehaw> Benkinooby: indeed, that's the reason that I want to see the lspci -v output. Need to know what driver needs to be loaded correctly and what firmware is not
[21:09] <xk00zx> abstrakt - my issue is just setting the first "default" device for recording to be line input and my microphone...
[21:09] <moegreen> hey guys i just got my new ATI Radeon card and need to install the drivers but how do i install my old previous NVIDIA drivers so i get a clean ATI install?
[21:10] <moegreen> *uninstall NVIDIA
[21:10] <Benkinooby> yeehaw, as i installed ubuntu 10.04 on my laptop (= same model as VictorCL2) i think i just had to run jockey-gtk and it was fixed
[21:10] <Benkinooby> VictorCL2, did you run jockey-gtk?
[21:11] <VictorCL2> yeehaw http://paste.ubuntu.com/772677/
[21:11] <VictorCL2> Benkinooby jockey-gtk ? no what is it¿?
[21:11] <pfifo> moegreen, you dont need to uninstall the drives just add it to the blacklist
[21:12] <alvarezp> Hi. I just installed Ubuntu Oneiric on an amd64. Right now, my only source is "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu oneiric main" but I'm seeing duplicate packages in aptitude (like network-manager, nmap...) Google hasn't helped so far. Any ideas?
[21:12] <Benkinooby> VictorCL2, open a terminal and run 'sudo jockey-gtk' it is a tool for finding drivers for you... it will provide a driver with "STA" in its name... install that driver and reboot
[21:13] <YeeP> Can anyone give me some recommendations on the swap partition size?
[21:13] <yeehaw> Benkinooby, VictorCL2: Lol, I didn't know about that tool. Always doing things the hard way :p
[21:13] <pfifo> YeeP, double your physical memory
[21:13] <YeeP> ok, thats what I have heard
[21:13] <YeeP> thanks.
[21:13] <alvarezp> YeeP, it depends on your usage. But 1 to 2 times your physical memory is good.
[21:13] <oCean> alvarezp: I'm not an aptitude user, but what does  apt-cache policy nmap  show? This should list available packages including their repo
[21:14] <Benkinooby> yeehaw, don't praise the day before evening... let's see what that thing can do... maybe the hard ways is the only one to go
[21:14] <tjayh913> ugh, trying to dual boot and my hard drive already has wierd partitions in it
[21:14] <yeehaw> Benkinooby: :-)
[21:14] <AaronDCampbell> Is there a good (up to date) tutorial on setting up two Ubuntu 11.10 installs to use rsync to move files between them?
[21:15] <VictorCL2> Benkinooby but I dont have internet
[21:15] <VictorCL2> to use that tool
[21:15] <YeeP> I was getting errors in my last setup where there was not enough space in /boot
[21:15] <alvarezp> oCean, weirdly enough: for nmap, which is uninstalled, only one entry (500 http://...) -- For network-manager, which is installed, 2 entries (100 /var/lib... and 500 http://...)
[21:15] <YeeP> for a reinstall, any tips on how to avoid that
[21:15] <yeehaw> VictorCL2: How are you on irc?
[21:15] <VictorCL2> on my other computer
[21:16] <Benkinooby> VictorCL2, how do you think you'll get drivers, no matter what way, jockey or manually, if you don't have internet?
[21:16] <yeehaw> err leave irc, switch network cable. Try it and come back if it does not :p
[21:16] <yeehaw> *work
[21:16] <tjayh913> hmm, ugh
[21:16] <VictorCL2>  I dont know , I could install them with a pendrive
[21:16] <Benkinooby> VictorCL2, is there a way you get internet to the computer that needs the driver?
[21:16] <VictorCL2> well I dont know if I have a network cable to hook up to the router
[21:16] <pfifo> !offline | VictorCL2
[21:17] <alvarezp> oCean, I noticed that, for network-manager, only one of the two packages is marked as installed. That one has a description. The uninstalled one doesn't have a description. Both have the same version number. This is a clean installation.
[21:17] <tjayh913> how do I get the ubuntu automatic partitioner to change which part of the hard drive to mess with, as it has currently picked a tiny one
[21:17] <VictorCL2> ok Ifound a cable
[21:17] <VictorCL2> I will to to the router and run that command xD
[21:17] <VictorCL2> wait
[21:17] <tjayh913> somehow its trying to use a 7.1GB part of the hard drive, where there should be a few hundred gig available for it
[21:17] <nodestool> what is the name of the GUI tool to create live thumbdrives from .iso images?
[21:18] <oCean> alvarezp: weird. I cannot think of what happened.
[21:18] <YeeP> nodestool: using which OS
[21:18] <oCean> alvarezp: and you have this with other packages as well?
[21:18] <BarkingFish> nodestool:  do you mean unetbootin?
[21:18] <nodestool> YeeP: Xubuntu
[21:18] <alvarezp> oCean, some of them only.
[21:18] <BarkingFish> nope, obviously you don't :)
[21:18] <nodestool> in gnome you choose like "live cd creator" or something can't remember, what it was called.
[21:18] <tjayh913> It gives me a place to select a drive, but it will only give me one option, can anyone help, please?
[21:19] <nodestool> xubutu doesn't have such a tool or if it does i don't know what its called
[21:19] <nodestool> tjayh913: havn't had that problem before, only time i have had to do stuff like that was with the alternate cds
[21:20] <YeeP> unetbootin
[21:20] <xangua> nodestool: go to menu-sound and video-gnome baker¿¿
[21:20] <xangua> no idea what app uses xfce to burn
[21:20] <oCean> alvarezp: I don't use aptitude, so sorry I cannot check and compare on my system
[21:20] <xangua> xfce-burn i believe :P
[21:20] <YeeP> isnt there somthing called USB Startup Disk Creator
[21:20] <YeeP> in xubuntu
[21:21] <jutnux> Not that I know of.
[21:21] <tjayh913> first time it tried to install on my external, o.O
[21:21] <jutnux> Why not use unetbootin?
[21:21] <nodestool> xangua: well i want a live usb, i mean i think i could do it with `dd if=distro.iso of=/dev/sda1` or something like that
[21:21] <pfifo> nodestool, you could use grub2 isoboot
[21:21] <nodestool> BladeFreak: unetbootin seems like more than i need
[21:22] <urlin2u> nodestool, unetbootin will do it and give you a persistant setup for ubuntu if you want.
[21:22] <YeeP> unetbootin can be installed then correct?
[21:22] <xangua> nodestool: no idea if the ubunty iso supports dd, just use unetbootin or ubuntu's startup disk tool
[21:22] <nodestool> xangua: ah thats it startup disk tool
[21:22] <nodestool> whats that called?
[21:22] <YeeP> (2:21:50 PM) YeeP: isnt there somthing called USB Startup Disk Creator
[21:22] <BladeFreak> nodestool: no kidding :)
[21:22] <urlin2u> Startup Disk Creator
[21:23] <nodestool> usb-creator-gtk :) thanks all
[21:23] <tjayh913> sigh, about ready to give up trying to install this and just going back to Vista
[21:23] <YeeP> that is a sin
[21:23] <xangua> !who | YeeP
[21:23] <xangua> you can't expect people know who are you talking to
[21:24] <YeeP> wow, cool bot
[21:24] <nodestool> tty234: :( wish i could help, i don't have not run into that problem before, normally it seems all my disk, and then i slide for howmuch of it i want to use
[21:24] <tjayh913> maybe I should go back to it to figure out whether I can just delete these existing partitions
[21:24] <lamateur> salut tout le monde
[21:25] <YeeP> tjayh913: dual boot?
[21:25] <urlin2u> tjayh913, are you aware of the limits of types of partitions on a single HD 4 primaries or 3 primaries and one extended.
[21:25] <tjayh913> yep, thats why I am thinking they probably need to be deleted
[21:26] <urlin2u> !who | tjayh913
[21:26] <tjayh913> one I think is where Vista put its recovery data, already burned that to a cd, idk about this tiny 41mb fat16 partition though
[21:27] <urlin2u> tjayh913, use the tab complete so we know who your talking to, and recognize that threatening to go back to vista just gets rofl from everybody here. :D
[21:27] <cannonfodda> hi all. where do i set nautilus as default file manager 11.10 gnome shell?
[21:28] <tjayh913> not threatening, just commenting at my own state of frustration anyway
[21:28] <xk00zx> Is there a way to use alsamixer to trick a program into using more than one input (or to merge inputs and set as the default recording) for recording (using Desktop Recorder, and want to use a Microphone AND the Line for recording a java game) Desktop Recorder seems to only record whatever device is set to first.
[21:28] <xangua> cannonfodda: nautilus is the default file manager on gnome shell, explain yourself
[21:28] <xangua> on gnome*
[21:28] <jutnux> xangua: Marlin <3
[21:29] <urlin2u> tjayh913, use the tab to addresss another user type a few letters of their nic then hit tab to complete please, not the :
[21:29] <tjayh913> urlin2u: would be temporary anyway until I can sort this out, prefer my main pc that I am working on for IRC and looking things up
[21:29] <cannonfodda> i seem to remember changing it to thunar a while agao & now want to change it back
[21:29] <xangua> cannonfodda: then do the reverse you did i guess
[21:29] <urlin2u> tjayh913, cool the recovery partiton would be at least the size of a install dvd, or the installed OS.
[21:30] <cannonfodda> i can't remember where or how i did it
[21:30] <Benkinooby> VictorCL2, any news?
[21:30] <tjayh913> urlin2u: would you have any idea what this tiny partition in fat16 format would be for and if I need it?
[21:30] <xk00zx> cannonfodda : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DefaultFileManager
[21:31] <urlin2u> tjayh913, if you take a screen shot of gparted and imagebin it we can tell what each partition is and does and give you a plan.
[21:31] <cannonfodda> xk00zx: thamks:)
[21:31] <tjayh913> okay, thanks, will return to this chat on my main pc
[21:31] <xk00zx> cannonfodda - np
[21:32] <urlin2u> tjayh913, tha partition could be a boot or firmware probably. If you just remove the boot you may need to reload the boot files to the main C partition better doen before then after. Are yo backed up? Do you have a recovery or install disc as well?
[21:33] <xk00zx> Anyone around and good with recording with alsamixer/Desktop Recorder? Can't record both line input and microphone input at the same time for some reason...
[21:33] <tjayh913> Oh can use this while still in linux!
[21:34] <VictorCL2> Benkinooby , yeehaw .. it found a broadcom driver and some nvidia . and is instaling them right now :D
[21:34] <nodestool> xk00zx: aren't there tools like audacity or rosebud that are ment for makeing that stuff easy?
[21:34] <nodestool> xk00zx: i am not sure i just thought so
[21:34] <yeehaw> VictorCL2: great :-)
[21:34] <tjayh913> urlin2u: realized I closed the old chat too early, what program did you tell me to use to get a screenshot?
[21:34] <prova> !list
[21:35] <tjayh913> wait, think I just said the wrong name, lol
[21:35] <xk00zx> nodestool: I haven't tried those - i'm trying to do a video/audio capture of a game I play, (can do it much easier in Windows) but I can only trick my program into "listening" to one input at a time - there should be a way to either trick the program into listening to both and thinking its one or the other?
[21:36] <urlin2u> tjayh913, you can hit the prtsc button or use take a screen shot post it here and give us the http. http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[21:37] <alvarezp> oCean, found it.
[21:37] <tjayh913> glad I figured out how to still have web and irc whilst installing
[21:37] <oCean> alvarezp: yay!
[21:38] <xk00zx> nodestool - i dont know what rosebud is, and audacity works  fine for just audio, - i guess i'm wondering if there is a way I can premix my audio so the "default" audio that my program picks up has both inputs, not just whatever one i have selected...
[21:39] <tjayh913> urlin2u: http://imagebin.org/188932
[21:40] <alvarezp> oCean, aptitude doesn't support multiarch. Thank you very much for your help.
[21:40] <VictorCL2> yeehaw Benkinooby ,it has installed a broadcom driver , but it wont let me activate it
[21:40] <VictorCL2> I set it to ON and it goes to OFF inmediately
[21:41] <oCean> alvarezp: good to hear you found it. Even though I wasn't much of help.
[21:41] <yeehaw> VictorCL2: How did you set it on?
[21:41] <Benkinooby> VictorCL2, did you reoot?
[21:41] <alishah> hi, when ever i try opening a website i get this error in fireFox provided with ubuntu-11.10.
[21:41] <Benkinooby> reboot
[21:41] <alishah> The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading.
[21:41] <yeehaw> VictorCL2: What Benkinooby said
[21:42] <VictorCL2> I reebooted already
[21:42] <yeehaw> VictorCL2: Then how do you set in on?
[21:42] <guest_> Hi, I am curious what the --- means when I bring up the permission properties in ubuntu on a file or folder? I have the options for folder access as either none , list files only , access files  , create and delete files , ---
[21:42] <magnus14027> anyone else running 12.04 beta?
[21:42] <VictorCL2> on the network window .. wireless-> ON
[21:42] <VictorCL2> goes to OFF inmeditaely
[21:42] <urlin2u> tjayh913, that's the install take a picture of gparted it is in the menu. That looks like your boot partition, but is rather small.
[21:43] <Benkinooby> VictorCL2, open a terminal, enter dmesg and see if there is something about weirelss netowrking coming up
[21:43] <VictorCL2> iwconfig now changed : eth1 IEEE 802.11 acceess point: Not-associated
[21:43] <VictorCL2> eth0 no wireless extensions
[21:43] <nodestool> VictorCL2: what hardware?
[21:43] <nodestool> VictorCL2: what driver?
[21:43] <VictorCL2> wait
[21:43] <yeehaw> VictorCL2: What does lsmod | grep bcm give you?
[21:44] <Benkinooby> VictorCL2, eth0 is your wired network, eth1 is your wirless adapter
[21:44] <yeehaw> VictorCL2: Does iwconfig show a wlan0 ?
[21:44] <nodestool> VictorCL2: `lshw -C network`
[21:44] <guest_> does anybody know --- ?
[21:45] <rhinux1> hi, other user, same problem :)  eth0 no wirelss extension, but I had some time before the right driver. now I have pan1
[21:45] <VictorCL2> nodestool : PCI (sysfs)
[21:45] <nodestool> VictorCL2: wait a moment
[21:45] <nodestool> VictorCL2: more will come up
[21:45] <VictorCL2> yeehaw that returns nothing
[21:45] <yeehaw> guest_: http://www.december.com/unix/ref/chmod.html
[21:46] <alvarezp> guest_, I don't follow. That's what it means. Depending on the option that's what it means.
[21:46] <rhinux1> @nodestool: iwconfig doesnt show any at lo, eth0,pan1
[21:46] <tjayh913> wow the fish out of water feeling trying to find gparted after installing it, lol
[21:46] <VictorCL2> ok nodestool I got a big message
[21:46] <nodestool> VictorCL2: yeah look at capabilities:
[21:46] <urlin2u> tjayh913, you don't have to install it. Type gparted in the dash
[21:46] <nodestool> VictorCL2: make sure it says "wireless"
[21:47] <VictorCL2> it doesnt
[21:47] <nodestool> VictorCL2: above that it will say "logical name:" with some value
[21:47] <urlin2u> tjayh913, the dash is that button at the top of the left panel, you find all apps there.:D
[21:47] <VictorCL2> description: Wireless interface
[21:47] <VictorCL2> logical name: eth0
[21:47] <tjayh913> ah, thats how it works, lol
[21:47] <guest_> wait I am trying to figure out how --- is different then the other option that you can select for file /folder access . Sorry I am not understanding you
[21:47] <alishah> why do i get this error in firefox "The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading." i am using mobile broadband on ubuntu 11.10
[21:47] <rhinux1> @nodestool:  'lshw -C network' says "product: BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN"
[21:48] <Benkinooby> VictorCL2, when you ran that jockey-thing, was there something with sta?
[21:48] <VictorCL2> yes Broadcom STA driver
[21:48] <Benkinooby> VictorCL2, when you ran that jockey-thing, was there a driver for your wirelesscard having STA in its name?
[21:48] <nodestool> rhinux1: who are you ?
[21:48] <VictorCL2> Benkinooby that's what has installed
[21:48] <nodestool> rhinux1: what is your question
[21:49] <Benkinooby> VictorCL2, oh... that was the one that worked for me... both should work, but the sta driver turned out to be better for me...
[21:49] <alvarezp> guest_, oh, I see! There is an option named "---".
[21:49] <yeehaw> VictorCL2: Silly question, did u put the wireless card on with the button on the laptop?
[21:49] <tjayh913> urlin2u: http://imagebin.org/188933
[21:50] <nodestool> yeehaw: not a silly question, happens all the time, and to the best of us ;)
[21:50] <Benkinooby> yeehaw, VictorCL2 so that command line output can be posted
[21:50] <VictorCL2> nodestool yes it does say wireless on capabilities
[21:50] <Odaym> how do I separate the paths that I want to add to $PATH in .bashrc?
[21:50] <VictorCL2> logical name eth1
[21:50] <nodestool> Odaym: :
[21:50] <rhinux1> @nodestool: (22:45:09) rhinux1: hi, other user, same problem :)  eth0 no wirelss extension, but I had some time before the right driver. now I have pan1
[21:50] <nodestool> Odaym: for instance  `exprot PATH=$PATH:/my/new/path`
[21:51] <jost> hi! I want to output raw pcm data to my soundcard in ubuntu 11.10. How to do that from a C++-program without too much effort?
[21:51] <rhinux1> (22:46:08) rhinux1: @nodestool: iwconfig doesnt show any at lo, eth0,pan1
[21:51] <jost> I've already tried writing to the various /dev/snd/ devices
[21:51] <nodestool> rhinux1: is your hardward turned on, like the button on the laptop?
[21:51] <VictorCL2> yeehaw I dont know what button . it is Fn+f5 to turn off on the wireless
[21:51] <tjayh913> urlin2u: so it does look like it is just more files that came with the computer and not necessary
[21:52] <yeehaw> VictorCL2: Does that change anything?
[21:52] <rhinux1> yes, that was my first thought
[21:52] <VictorCL2> when I press them .. it makes a weird noise :s
[21:52] <Benkinooby> Oo
[21:52] <yeehaw> VictorCL2: VIRUS. just kidding. Well that's odd
[21:52] <rhinux1> @nodestool: yes its turned on
[21:52] <alvarezp> guest_, it's not documented in the help either. However, when you use ls -ld on a folder and it has no permissions, the permissions will be shown as ---, so it *might* be the same as none.
[21:53] <nodestool> rhinux1: what driver does it say you are using?
[21:53] <VictorCL2> yeehaw when I press Fn+f it tries to turn on the wifi .. but it goes OFF right away
[21:53] <urlin2u> tjayh913, cool I would leave all partitions there you only have three that works. Vista has a virtual partitioner you need to shrink the main partition=sda3 leaving a larger unalocated space then install ubuntu the, but make a extended partition in that unallocated with gparted then a ext4 then a swap inside the extended, and use the same install screen you showed first to install to that ext4.
[21:53] <nodestool> rhinux1: it would be under configure:
[21:53] <yeehaw> VictorCL2: Do you have a single boot or double boot config on the netbook?
[21:53] <rhinux1> I used before a "bc..." but now in lsmod | grep bc it is not the driver anymore
[21:53] <VictorCL2> should I do this now -> http://fakkelbrigade.eu/chris/blog/2010/12/wireless-not-working-in-ubuntu-on-the-lenovo-ideapad-s12/
[21:54] <urlin2u> tjayh913, hope that makes sense.
[21:54] <yeehaw> VictorCL2: You can try, you can always remove it again if it does'nt work
[21:54] <rhinux1> I guess after kernel update 2.6.x to 3. the driver name changed or isnt loaded anymore automatically?
[21:54] <guest_> Is their any ubuntu developers out their that can tell me what the difference between --- and the other access levels
[21:54] <alvarezp> guest_, however, it doesn't seem to accept that option.
[21:54] <King_Ozzy> there
[21:55] <yeehaw> rhinux1: sudo jockey-gtk
[21:55] <rhinux1> my laptop is a HP Pavillion dv6000
[21:55] <nodestool> VictorCL2: what driver does it use?
[21:55] <nodestool> rhinux1: what driver?
[21:55] <yeehaw> nodestool: bcm43
[21:55] <yeehaw> for VictorCL2
[21:55] <nodestool> i don't know bcm43 :/
[21:55] <urlin2u> guest_, the developers don't hang out here
[21:55] <tjayh913> urlin2u: I think so, so you are saying that I need to return to Vista and shrink its partition from there?
[21:55] <VictorCL2> yeehaw that did  turn it on  : rmmod acer_wmi && echo "blacklist acer_wmi" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[21:56] <alvarezp> guest_, yes, but gets changed back to something else (sometimes)
[21:56] <yeehaw> VictorCL2: awesome, so you can connect now?
[21:56] <VictorCL2> wait
[21:57] <norty> Can someone help me? I'm running ubuntu karmic and when I update my packages it says that it "Could not download all repository indexes". How can I fix this?
[21:57] <yeehaw> norty: Run apt-get update again?
[21:57] <VictorCL2> hurray yes it did ^^
[21:57] <rhinux1> @nodestool: Broadcom-STA-WLAN-Treiber, with Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4313-, BCM4321-,BCM4322-, BCM43224-, and BCM43225-, BCM43227- and BCM43228-based hardware.
[21:57] <VictorCL2> it is connected
[21:57] <yeehaw> VictorCL2: gz :-)
[21:57] <VictorCL2> yeehaw , Benkinooby thanks a lot
[21:57] <alvarezp> guest_, I have concluded that I don't have the slightest clue either.
[21:57] <nodestool> VictorCL2: congrats!!!
[21:57] <urlin2u> tjayh913, yeah, I have been told vista has a virtual partitioner like W7 then reboot it to make sure its okay, then make a extended in the unallcated with gparted on the install ubutn cd and a ext4 and swap inside the extended and use the same custom/other install you showed in the first screenshot to install to the ext4
[21:58] <Benkinooby> VictorCL2, you're welcome
[21:58] <yeehaw> rhinux1: Try what VictorCL2 did
[21:58] <jamesaxl> hi
[21:58] <hikenboot> anyone ever try proxmox ubuntu and iscsi and MSCS disks...I am looking for new enough features to support this combination...debian is one revision behind for proxmox (so it doesnt run on wheezy)
[21:58] <tjayh913> urlin2u: thank you for your help
[21:58] <overclucker> broadcom chips can be a pain
[21:58] <yeehaw> rhinux1: http://fakkelbrigade.eu/chris/blog/2010/12/wireless-not-working-in-ubuntu-on-the-lenovo-ideapad-s12/
[21:58] <nodestool> yeah i have not used a broadcom chip
[21:58] <norty> yeehaw, I just did. It errors out when trying to fetch some sources and says "Failed to fetch http://.. 404 Not Found" and at the end says "Some index files failes to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead"
[21:59] <pastorbelga> @search john grisham abduction
[21:59] <oCean> pastorbelga: ?
[21:59] <yeehaw> norty: What version are you using of ubuntu?
[21:59] <geoffmcc> norty: its reached EOL
[21:59] <jack> ok, i got the oneiric iso
[21:59] <nodestool> oCean: pastorbelga looks for a DCC
[21:59] <oCean> nodestool: I'm aware
[21:59] <norty> yeehaw, Ubuntu 9.10 - Karmic Koala
[22:00] <norty> geoffmcc, what does that mean?
[22:00] <urlin2u> tjayh913, no problem, 'm waiting for a friend to call to do the same exact thing right now on a Toshiba given to them, lol.
[22:00] <norty> yeehaw, when I try to do a distribution update, it doesn't let me for the same reasons
[22:00] <urlin2u> norty, 9.10 is end of life.
[22:00] <VictorCL> ^^
[22:00] <geoffmcc> norty: its end of life. no further support
[22:00] <jack> now how can i burn it? i've booted from a livedvd, the burner is the same drive
[22:01] <yeehaw> norty: I would make a backup and do a fresh install of the latest version
[22:01] <norty> geoffmcc, ah ok. shouldn't common packages still be available for download though?
[22:01] <yeehaw> Or if you hate Unity, Linux mint
[22:01] <diablo84> Hi.
[22:01] <hikenboot> anyone at all get proxmox 2.0 running on 11.04? save some time trying it maybe
[22:01] <TikaTaka> hi does anyone know why the ubuntu software center just doesnt install anything? just did a net install of ubuntu hardy.
[22:01] <geoffmcc> norty: i dont belive the repositories exist anymore, and i thought i saw you were tying to update
[22:01] <tjayh913> well will at least go and unallocate some of the HD, will see how far I can get after that, bye
[22:02] <nodestool> yeehaw: there are a few different ubuntu desktops, i use xfce4, some might use kde4, etc...
[22:02] <diablo84> Question: I installed dwm and have created both .xinitrc and .xsession in my home file but ubuntu ignores them after loggin in. Why is that?
[22:02] <oCean> geoffmcc: norty the repos still exist, but are moved to http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[22:02] <norty> oCean, oh nice, let me see if I can change the urls and if it'll work
[22:02] <yeehaw> nodestool: I'm aware. But Linux mint gives an ubuntu like experience with the old gnome interface imho
[22:02] <urlin2u> norty, look here you can upgrade.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[22:02] <oCean> norty: but there are no updates in those repos
[22:03] <yeehaw> nodestool: I'm not sure about the latest version btw :P
[22:03] <kerx> hi all, how can I install glib >= 2.6.0 ?
[22:03] <urlin2u> norty, I would backup and reload a new distro if it was me though.
[22:03] <Star_Light> allo.
[22:03] <antoeanto> ciao
[22:03] <yeehaw> kerx: apt-cache search glib
[22:03] <antoeanto> !list
[22:04] <kerx> yeehaw, lots of packages show up, none of which just say glib or glib-devel or anything like that
[22:04] <DemonWitch> FUCK UBUNTU
[22:04] <trism> kerx: libglib2.0-dev
[22:05] <jutnux> DemonWitch: You are free to express your dislike of Ubuntu, just try not to swear.
[22:05] <norty> urlin2u, and oCean, thats for the suggestions, let me try a few of them and see what happens, if all else fails I'll have to do a clean install -- if i have to do that what is the best distro to use? I'm concerned because im running a lenovo t410 thinkpad and i had a few troubles getting ubuntu working on it initially
[22:05] <VictorCL2> is there a good mac theme for ubuntu 11.10 ?
[22:05] <jost> Any hints on how to play raw PCM data with little effort from a C++ program?
[22:05] <TikaTaka> i just did a net install of ubuntu, but everytime i try to install something in the software center it just doesnt install. no error or anything
[22:05] <jutnux> VictorCL2: I think MacBuntu works with GTK3
[22:06] <urlin2u> norty, I would supect 11.10 would work.
[22:06] <abu-bakr> how can one tell who has op status in this room?
[22:06] <urlin2u> suspect*
[22:06] <VictorCL2> does it use too much resource to run on a netbook?
[22:06] <urlin2u> abu-bakr, why?
[22:06] <auronandace> abu-bakr: they only become ops when necessary
[22:06] <yeehaw> abu-bakr: Just spam a couple times and look who bans you ;-)
[22:06] <hylian> my trash can in xfce disappears and reappears whenever it feels like it...??
[22:07] <jutnux> yeehaw: I was going to say the same but refrained :-)
[22:07] <Kubbur> how do i send a command to a detatched screen without opening it ?
[22:07] <abu-bakr> cool thanks
[22:07] <abu-bakr> its been years since i used a proper irc client so just not used to the new look
[22:07] <abu-bakr> looks good
[22:07] <jutnux> What client are you using abu-bakr?
[22:08] <abu-bakr> anyway guys I need help with something hopefully you are the right folks for the job
[22:08] <abu-bakr> i'm on empathy
[22:08] <alishah> my browser started giving me "The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading." on google yahoo bing facebook utube
[22:08] <abu-bakr> on ubuntu
[22:08] <alishah> what should i do
[22:08] <abu-bakr> any good?
[22:08] <alishah> internet seems to be working fine
[22:08] <hylian> abu-bakr, i'm a xchat person myself, but empathy works.
[22:08] <alishah> i am using firefox
[22:08] <alishah> that comes with ubuntu ~
[22:08] <alishah> 11.10
[22:09] <yeehaw> Kubbur: abu-bakr irssi ftw
[22:09] <abu-bakr> i think i briefly used xchat but not enough to remember it :s
[22:09] <BlauskaerM> abu-bakr, hylian, it should be irssi ;)
[22:09] <Sefid_Par> !nmap
[22:09] <urlin2u> alishah, you have a lot of history and cookies?
[22:09] <yeehaw> Lol autocomplete failure
[22:09] <alishah> urlin2u: should i try deleting my history?
[22:09] <TikaTaka> i cant seem to make any app install in the ubuntu software centre
[22:09] <geoffmcc> Kubbur: i would suspect by first naming the window screen -S some name and then using screen -X to send command to it.. see man screen
[22:09] <rhinux1> @nodestool @yeehaw so, "rmmod wl" and reload "modprobe b43" works
[22:09] <abu-bakr> ok folks, i have 3 fresh drives and want to create a raid 5 array
[22:09] <pien1> irc.darksin.it
[22:10] <yeehaw> rhinux1: You have internet now?
[22:10] <deetaha> Hi.
[22:10] <petafile> I have a cluster of servers (12) and a head node.  Is there a convenient way to have the slave nodes boot off of an image stored on the master?
[22:10] <abu-bakr> however my question is.. do i copy my old partition over on to one of the new disks first or do i create the array first?
[22:10] <urlin2u> alishah, hard to say but I run FF with no history or cookies saved and a few choice addons that block script and adds, and cookies
[22:10] <abu-bakr> (old drive is dying)
[22:10] <hylian> thats an extermely offensive name petafile.
[22:10] <deetaha> How can I disable the ubuntu login screen using the command line? I am using 11.10.
[22:10] <urlin2u> deetaha, you want to autologin?
[22:10] <norty> oCean, thanks I changed all my repos to old-releases and i was able to get what i wanted. thanks man!!
[22:11] <petafile> hylian: a/s/l?
[22:11] <petafile> lol
[22:11] <bobalazs> Anybody have a solution for this? I'm using vesa as default screen driver, bc the proposed unichrome driver causes the mouse to disappear on the connected external display (laptop)
[22:11] <kerx> whoah, "Processing triggers for man-db ..."  locked up my vmware instance
[22:11] <kerx> for the second time
[22:11] <overclucker> what, it's just a 1000 terabyte file . . .
[22:11] <kerx> whats up with that :-(
[22:12] <yeehaw> kerx: diskspace?
[22:12] <deetaha> urlin2u: Nope. I have dwm installed and it seems that the login screen causes the system to ignore both .xsession and .xinitrc.
[22:12] <kerx> nah, it has ~12GB free
[22:12] <yeehaw> kerx: Whait that doesn't make sense
[22:12] <tjayh913> ugh. shrinking my Vista partition does not sound easy
[22:12] <kerx> crap, whatever
[22:12] <abu-bakr> Raid5 anyone/
[22:12] <hylian> my trash can in xfce disappears and reappears whenever it feels like it...??
[22:13] <urlin2u> deetaha, not sure then you might give a full account to get help though.
[22:13] <geoffmcc> tjayh913: admin tools/computer management/disk managment then right click partiton choose shrink, set size
[22:13] <yeehaw> hylian: It has to be emptied sometimes
[22:13] <sdaugherty> Ugh. Hadn't used ubuntu in a while, and tried to walk someone through doing something over the phone with a livecd.
[22:13] <abu-bakr> no one have experience with Raid arrays?
[22:14] <Dysaniak> Why is it that I can't simply open the launcher, and search for files?
[22:14] <yeehaw> abu-bakr: sorry no
[22:14] <auronandace> !raid | abu-bakr
[22:14] <abu-bakr> ok folks how do I get someones attention on that?
[22:14] <sdaugherty> It was completely hopeless with the new desktop. They ended up having to reformat instead of being helped.
[22:14] <hylian> yeehaw, no seriously, the thing disappears like a cheep vegas side show act, and then it shows up again the same way. it's been empty for weeks
[22:14] <deetaha> urlin2u: I don't get you.
[22:14] <abu-bakr> ubottu thanks
[22:14] <sdaugherty> Text labels are CRITICAL to phone support.
[22:14] <yeehaw> hylian: I'm sorry mate, I don't know much about xfce.
[22:15] <urlin2u> deetaha, I can't help, but if you explain what you have done and your goal you will likely get help. Disabling the login makes no sense to me.
[22:15] <hylian> yeehaw, whell thanks for trying :)
[22:15] <Dysaniak> I have an incredibly difficult time searching for files by name. It would be nice to have a 'lens', is it called?, to search through GUI.
[22:15] <tjayh913> well can give me 161gb, should be plenty for linux
[22:15] <abu-bakr> Ok auronandace ... thanks
[22:15] <abu-bakr> :)
[22:15] <yeehaw> So is ubottu open source? :p maybe installing it as a siri replacement ? :P
[22:15] <deetaha> Why does ubuntu ignore the files .xsession and .xinitrc?
[22:15] <auronandace> abu-bakr: no worries :)
[22:15] <urlin2u> tjayh913, the vista partitioner will shrink it that far?
[22:15] <Gentoo64> Dysaniak: there should be one.
[22:15] <geoffmcc> yeehaw: it runs on supybot. you can then get ubuntu scripts from lp:ubuntu-bot i believe
[22:16] <tjayh913> currently a 900gb partition
[22:16] <abu-bakr> Ok.. while the page loads
[22:16] <yeehaw> geoffmcc: :-)
[22:16] <abu-bakr> does anyone know if I should copy my partition over onto one of the raid disks first
[22:16] <abu-bakr> or after creating the array
[22:16] <abu-bakr> ?
[22:16] <urlin2u> tjayh913, that makes sense yes that plenty to run ubuntu and you can resize later if you want more
[22:16] <overclucker> abu-bakr: setup raid first
[22:16] <urlin2u> that's*
[22:17] <hylian> Dysaniak, how about catfish? it's a dandy file search program.
[22:17] <TikaTaka> clicking install does nothing on the software center, should i report this as a bug?
[22:17] <abu-bakr> overclucker: thanks.. and then I can use gparted to copy the old partition over?
[22:18] <Dysaniak> hylian: Never heard of it. Will apt-get catfish work?
[22:18] <deetaha> urlin2u: I installed dwm as an alternative to Gnome. When startx fires up it should read .xinitrc and execute its content. For some reason ubuntu doesn't and I think the reason is that the way it logs in forces it to ignore that file.
[22:18] <hylian> !catfush
[22:18] <abu-bakr> old part is 70gb and the raid array will be 300gb
[22:18] <overclucker> abu-bakr: that may not work
[22:18] <auronandace> !info catfish | hylian
[22:18] <hylian> !catfish
[22:18] <Dysaniak> Gentoo64: A lens? You mean, already installed? Not sure how to access such a thing by hot-key.
[22:18] <tjayh913> and back to Ubuntu
[22:18] <urlin2u> tjayh913, don't forget the extended in the unallocated with gparted this will keep you from putting too many partitions and making your HD dynamic.
[22:19] <hylian> auronandace, Dysaniak wanted the info, not me, but thanks.
[22:19] <Dysaniak> What the heck is the name of that search bar in Unity?
[22:19] <tjayh913> was going to use gparted from linux to do that
[22:19] <abu-bakr> or perhaps link the currently dying hard drive into the new array (4 disks total) then once synch is complete.. pull the failing disk?
[22:19] <urlin2u> deetaha, wish I knew I was more concerned that you get proper help.
[22:19] <Dysaniak> hylian: I got it. Danke.
[22:20] <hylian> my trash can in xfce disappears and reappears whenever it feels like it...??
[22:20] <hylian> oops
[22:21] <hylian> exit
[22:21] <Dysaniak> Gentoo64: I'm going with this: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/05/real-files-folders-search-unity-lens.html
[22:21] <deetaha> Which xsession file does the login screen run at startup?
[22:22] <overclucker> abu-bakr: are you replacing a failing drive in a raid array?
[22:23] <cheezygirl> salut
[22:23] <auronandace> !fr | cheezygirl
[22:23] <cheezygirl> je viens d'installer unbuntu pour la premiere fois
[22:24] <abu-bakr> overclucker: no.. the old drive was just on its own.. I now have 3 replacement drives so thought I would give Raid5 a shot (missing some of the speed of my ssd on the laptop :P )
[22:24] <deetaha> How can one get a shell instead of a login screen when ubuntu starts?
[22:24] <auronandace> !text | deetaha
[22:26] <urlin2u> deetaha, here are dwm tagged threads at the ubuntu forums this might help while you wait.  http://ubuntuforums.org/tags.php?tag=dwm
[22:27] <Kubbur> how do i send a command to a detatched specified screen without opening it ?
[22:28] <yeehaw> Kubbur: -x
[22:28] <murfie> Kubbur: you don't
[22:28] <tjayh913> urlin2u: so I have the extended partition, now I can install ubuntu on it?
[22:28] <Kubbur> murfie how come ?
[22:28] <JvA> Hi! I'm trying to make dash my default shell. However, to do that I want to run rlwrap around it to get tab completion. How do I set up /etc/passwd to make it start dash using rlwrap with some arguments?
[22:28] <murfie> Kubbur: probably not meant to work that way
[22:29] <JvA> Can I just change /bin/dash to something like /usr/bin/rlwrap arguments dash?
[22:29] <urlin2u> tjayh913, you put a ext4 inside of it and a swap equal to your ram first with gparted. Then hit install go to the original custom called other install window you posted and install to that ext4.
[22:30] <tjayh913> urlin2u:  thanks, thought there was another step in there, but was not sure
[22:31] <tjayh913> urlin2u: is it important that it be exactly equal, or just rougly?
[22:31] <urlin2u> tjayh913, easy part is you know how to get to that custom install window, you will neeed to put a / in for mount I believe as well. equal ormore on the swap so you can hibernate.
[22:32] <urlin2u> tjayh913, I'm going to starbucks for java now I think your set if not just ask questions.
[22:32] <murfie> java 7?
[22:34] <puff> I'm not sure this is really a bug, but maybe it should be reported.  Today I did an update and some things broke.  These were non-standard things, however, not normal apt stuff.  I had to do some fiddling with the oracle/sun JRE and firefox to get Juniper VPN working, and I had installed the proprietary Skype package.  Something broke the JRE/firefox, and likewise, skype disappeared.
[22:35] <overclucker> abu-bakr: it looks like using gparted to copy the old image over should work.
[22:36] <monostone> Hi everyone. I have a problem with cronjobs and permissions. I have a virtual hosting setup, with apache2.2+php5 running with fast-cgi wrapper and i need to run some php files via cgi daily with crontab. I first tried setting the cronjob to be run as the user fcgid is locked to, error: grandchild #30410 failed with exit status 255 (no permissions) Then I tried as root, same error. Suggestions appreciated!
[22:36] <Chief_G> what is the offtopic channel?
[22:36] <Chief_G> thx
[22:36] <murfie> the other channel
[22:36] <auronandace> !ot | Chief_G
[22:37] <monostone> *via cgi I mean via cli, php-cli launched with crontab
[22:42] <abu-bakr> overclucker: thanks.. so I will be ok copying the old partition over on to the new array once its created?
[22:42] <abu-bakr> (when that does eventally happen as its failing to create at the moment ...)
[22:42] <overclucker> abu-bakr: that should work. i just had to check on how raid safe gparted was.
[22:43] <xkinder> clear
[22:44] <abu-bakr> overclucker: brilliant thanks for your help! I will give it a try and ..(probably be back asking why the raid is failing to create :P )
[22:46] <abu-bakr> overclucker: this is the message i'm getting: Error starting job: Failed to execute child process "mdadm" (No such file or directory)
[22:47] <murfie> sudo install apt-get install mdadm
[22:47] <lolol^> Hello
[22:47] <abu-bakr> murfie: thanks i've started install via software center :P
[22:47] <lolol^> I have a USB IR Reciever
[22:47] <abu-bakr> will see how that goes
[22:48] <murfie> oh ok
[22:48] <murfie> just about the same result
[22:48] <lolol^> And want to use it... How can I get information about if it is supported
[22:48] <jost> I'm trying to execute "sudo cat /dev/random > /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p" to generate some white noise. It fails with "cat: write error: File descriptor in bad state". Why?
[22:49] <lolol^> I tried lsusb but my Infrared Adaptor doesn't show up
[22:49] <_calum> Hi, whenever I open firestarter, it says it failed to open the event log. No additional info is displayed
[22:50] <murfie> then don't open it
[22:50] <_calum> no, I mean the firewall runs fine but it says firewall logs wont be available
[22:50] <murfie> hmm
[22:51] <murfie> some permission problem?
[22:51] <_calum> maybe. I'll first try reinstalling
[22:52] <pathetictroll> .
[22:52] <pathetictroll> ni
[22:52] <pathetictroll> ce
[22:54] <pathetictroll> .
[22:55] <imi> hi
[22:55] <imi> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/847/kpernykpp.png/
[22:55] <imi> I have this envelope icon
[22:56] <_calum> uhh now its saying the device wlan0 is not ready?
[22:56] <imi> I have kmail and fetchmail procmail set up to deliver my mails into a maildir. can I somehow make this envelope icon to change color/flash/etc when I have unread emails in my local maildir?
[22:57] <abu-bakr> ok folks mdadm has partially installed i think
[22:57] <murfie> partially?
[22:57] <abu-bakr> but has stumbled over this bit...
[22:57] <abu-bakr> Errors were encountered while processing:
[22:57] <abu-bakr>  initramfs-tools
[22:57] <murfie> only the md, or only the adm?
[22:57] <abu-bakr> tried doing it again but it gets 'deferred' ?
[22:57] <_calum> will try to restart the machine to solve fw issue
[22:57] <sveinse> I installed a fresh oneiric server. I installed xfce on it, but the server itself shall not have graphical login. However, when I installed xfce, I got this graphical Debian(!) grub menu. How can I remove it?
[22:57] <murfie> you don't need it
[22:57] <abu-bakr> tried via command line too
[22:57] <abu-bakr> mufie: oh kool
[22:58] <abu-bakr> murfie: K :)
[22:59] <anon_ymous> Hi all
[22:59] <puff> Okay, it looks like I hosed something, earlier today, when I installed python-wxgtk2.8.  It juggled some packages around, and now it looks like some stuff is broken and insists on staying broken, even after I removed python-wxgtk2.8.  Any idea what to do next?
[22:59] <anon_ymous> quick question regarding mapping via fstab and cifs
[23:00] <abu-bakr> hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....
[23:00] <abu-bakr> now it says: Errors were encountered while processing:
[23:00] <abu-bakr>  initramfs-tools
[23:01] <abu-bakr> although there is a raid5 array showing in the disk utility thingmajig
[23:01] <abu-bakr> sorry wrong message
[23:01] <abu-bakr> Error assembling array: mdadm exited with exit code 1: mdadm: ADD_NEW_DISK for /dev/sdc1 failed: Device or resource busy
[23:02] <murfie> what does cat /proc/mdstat say anyway
[23:03] <Zta> Back in them olden days it was pretty easy to migrate all your personal configuration from one computer to another e.g. when you get a new one like I just did.  It was just a matter of copying a few ~/.*rc files and you were good.
[23:03] <anon_ymous> The current line I have in the fstab for this is: //stora/FamilyLibrary/My\040Book\0402TB/      /mnt/stora       cifs credentials=/root/.smbcredentials,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777  0 0
[23:03] <Zta> But now it's difficult because everything is stored across ~/.*rc, ~/config/, ~/.gconf* and what not.
[23:04] <munchor_> Any idea when Geany 0.21 will be updated for 0.20 in the Ubuntu repos?
[23:04] <messerting> Hi, I just installed ubuntu 11.10 on an asus eee 1512B, radeon 6320 graphics. To get eye candy, I installed fglrx drivers, and it works, but I get this ATI/AMD watermark saying "Unsupported hardware"
[23:04] <pythonirc1012> I've a machine (ubuntu LTS) that is working in a cloud. It has 10GB hard drive space. Is there a way I can clone it on the network, and convert it to a vdi file (vbox)? -- I'd like to have this to and fro , so that i can back it up, and make changes remotely, then deploy.
[23:04] <messerting> How can I get rid of it?
[23:04] <abu-bakr> murfie: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ cat /proc/mdstat
[23:04] <abu-bakr> Personalities : [raid6] [raid5] [raid4]
[23:04] <abu-bakr> md127 : active raid5 sdb1[1] sda1[3] sdc1[0]
[23:04] <abu-bakr>       252571648 blocks super 1.2 level 5, 512k chunk, algorithm 2 [3/2] [UU_]
[23:04] <abu-bakr>       [>....................]  recovery =  0.0% (27008/126285824) finish=2024.5min speed=1038K/sec
[23:05] <abu-bakr>       bitmap: 1/1 pages [4KB], 65536KB chunk
[23:05] <FloodBot1> abu-bakr: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:05] <abu-bakr> FloodBot1: Thanks ... does that get me any brownie points?
[23:06] <Zta> I'd basically like to make a pair of scripts: backup-personal-settings.sh and restore-personal-settings.sh which does all this.
[23:06] <twocarlo> guys im looking for the exact filename Ubuntu 10.10 _Maverick Meerkat_ - Release i386 (20101007) which i cant see on on path releases.ubuntu.com/maverick/
[23:07] <abu-bakr> murfie: just benchmarked the array and its come out at 18mb/s avg read and 11mb/s avg write!!!
[23:07] <abu-bakr> my drives benchmarked individually at over 60mb/s reads
[23:08] <abu-bakr> the array can't be busy can it ? theres no data on it?!
[23:09] <imi> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/847/kpernykpp.png/ I have kmail and fetchmail procmail set up to deliver my mails into a maildir. can I somehow make this envelope icon to change color/flash/etc when I have unread emails in my local maildir?
[23:09] <abu-bakr> disk utility also has a red label "degraded" ... is this because its fresh or is there a problem
[23:09] <zulax> is there a live desktop sharing for ubuntu?
[23:09] <genii-around> twocarlo: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/10.10/
[23:09] <twocarlo> guys im looking for the exact filename Ubuntu 10.10 _Maverick Meerkat_ - Release i386 (20101007).iso which i cant see on on path releases.ubuntu.com/maverick/  do you think it would also be the ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso
[23:12] <jack> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/i/irssi/irssi_0.8.15-4ubuntu1_i386.deb  403  Forbidden [IP: 91.189.88.45 80]
[23:12] <jack> ??
[23:12] <abu-bakr> ok.. it now has a progress bar showing action 'recovering' so it must be synching now ..
[23:12] <abu-bakr> hence slow benchmark
[23:15] <twocarlo> genii-around:  do you think it would work if i use  the newer ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso  as i try to sudo apt-get install update?
[23:19] <dios_mio> I am in ubuntu, and I want to write a windows XP .ISO image on my USB stick.. what program does it please?
[23:20] <tjayh913> and now have a dual boot of Vista and Ubuntu!
[23:20] <`marcus> How do I run python scripts(.py) from terminal? I tried ./filename.py but it doesn't work, it gives errors that shouldn't be there
[23:21] <ziga_> hello
[23:21] <Zta> How do I -- though the shell -- add Tomboy Notes to the list of Startup Applications?
[23:21] <cypher-neo> Inn order to run a .py script you need to run it as a Terminal command
[23:21] <dios_mio> is there any linux utility that can write an windows ISO on a USB flash disk (memory stick) that will be bootable?
[23:22] <j0nr> hey folks. Why is my webcampicture so crap? If I open Cheese, the picture is awful, almost like a solarize effect!
[23:22] <kandros> marcus /path/of/the/file/file.py
[23:22] <ziga_> can anyone help me... my wireless connection is working one day and not working the other day in xubuntu
[23:22] <cypher-neo> So the command would be "python /path/to/file.py"
[23:22] <cypher-neo> ziga_, What kind of error are you getting?
[23:23] <ziga_> there is no error report it just is working and not working
[23:24] <kandros>  /path/of/the/file/file.py `marcus
[23:24] <`marcus> ty
[23:25] <kandros> dios_mio: try Unetbootin
[23:25] <zatan> Hi,  what is default permissions for folders and files ?
[23:28] <abu-bakr> murfie: so how come people like you on here help newbies out.. i mean what do you get out of it?
[23:32] <philpem> I have some equipment which is controlled over a remote-X11 session inside a VNC window. Does anyone know of a window manager which looks reasonable in a 256-colour PseudoColor X session?
[23:32] <philpem> Openbox works OK, but the font antialiasing screws things up bigtime.
[23:32] <MIH1406> How can I create a .bin/.cue CD Image
[23:33] <brandon123> anyone have any thoughts on why i have to hold down keys to get unity's dash search to accept the key press? i'm not on a slow machine
[23:34] <brandon123> although at the moment it sudden seems to have started working right
[23:34] <alcaudon> hello
[23:34] <j0nr> its definately something to do with the external usb webcam, as the inbuilt one is fine
[23:39] <MonkeyDust> OT: are all the support people informed about sun-java being removed from the ubuntu repos? i guess many questions about will come up
[23:39] <MonkeyDust> about this*
[23:40] <puff> MonkeyDust: It seems oddly difficult to find info bout that by googling.
[23:40] <puff> MonkeyDust: And I've noticed this in the past, stuff changes or is removed, there's no real way to figure out what happened.
[23:40] <MonkeyDust> puff  http://news.softpedia.com/news/Canonical-Will-Remove-Java-From-Ubuntu-241147.shtml
[23:40] <puff> MonkeyDust: Yeah, I know about it, I've just tried to track down a page to show somebody about it and it's hard to find somethning.
[23:41] <MonkeyDust> well, if i'm worrying for nothing, the better then
[23:41] <scott__> ubuntu 11.10 wont auto mount my flash drives anymore. i found a command line to make the flash drive mount, but i couldn't move any files. what is the current fix?
[23:42] <rootsecho> guys: an easy (?) way to re-enable on board video after chucking in an PCI card for video?
[23:42] <scott__> and once i restart, i can't mount the flash drive again with out the command line input
[23:43] <rootsecho> guys: an easy (?) way to re-enable on board video after chucking in an PCI card for video?
[23:44] <rootsecho> got to go
[23:46] <scott__> how do i make ubuntu 11.10 auto mount my flash drives?
[23:48] <clueful> I'd like to set up my linux box (currently acting as a file server) as a firewall/router which sets up a private network on oneside and connects to a university network on the other...with one catch...I'd like the PC's on the private network to also have world routable ip's so I can remote desktop in...is there an easy way to set this up?
[23:51] <bastidrazor> MIH1406: k3b
[23:53] <tazthespaz> hey can anyone heme, whenever i login to unity my top panel is transparent and my side panel or launcher is gone i can get to the terminal  by doing ctrl+alt+t and opening ccsm and then a restart the unity plugin but that is only a temporary fix