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ScottKRiddell: It looks to me (at least from skimming git commit logs) that kdepim for 4.8 is going to need a git snapshot of Akonadi.18:10
RiddellScottK: ug18:27
apacheloggerSput: when will quassel grow script0ring or something? :S19:48
apacheloggerwhen are we switching to clang?19:53
Riddellapachelogger: what is clang?19:54
Riddell"Clang project is a new C, C++, Objective C and Objective C++ front-end for the LLVM compiler."19:55
apacheloggerc compiler for llvm19:55
apacheloggeryeah, that ^^19:55
Riddellbecause if we used that instead of GCC we couldn't all call it Kubuntu GNU/Linux19:56
apacheloggersure we can19:56
littlegirlHey there, I use Kubuntu Lucid Lynx. My package manager is configured to check for updates daily and display a notification if there are any. My System Tray is configured to display all icons. I used to get notified of updates to packages, but haven't for a couple of months now. Where can I check for what's causing this?19:56
apacheloggerbut it'd be GNU/Apple/Linux19:56
apacheloggerhrrr19:56
apacheloggerlittlegirl: #kubuntu for support please19:56
littlegirlapachelogger: Yes, I've tried that. Repeatedly. Nobody helps me. Can you please recommend another place?19:57
apacheloggernot really, you'll have to wait, unfortunately I'll not be any help there either19:58
apacheloggersheytan: ping20:17
sheytanapachelogger: pongy20:18
apacheloggersheytan: we be needing some changes to the phonon website if at all possible20:18
sheytanlike what?20:18
apacheloggersome box that lists versions of phonon, phonon gstreamer, and phonon vlc20:18
apacheloggerwith link to download20:18
sheytanwill take care of that ;)20:19
apacheloggerawesomest20:19
apacheloggersheytan++20:19
apacheloggerwhere is kubotu? :S20:20
sheytannot a problem :)20:20
sheytanhe has free. You can't work all the time :D20:20
* apachelogger interrupts kubotu's vacation20:21
apacheloggerkubotu: h20:21
apacheloggerkubotu: hi20:21
kubotuhola apachelogger!20:21
sheytantold ya :D20:21
sheytanoooh20:21
apacheloggerkubotu: karma sheytan20:22
kubotukarma for sheytan: 320:22
apacheloggersheytan++20:22
apacheloggerkubotu: you be around when I increment someone!!!!!20:22
sheytanapachelogger: so, how's kubuntu development going novadays?20:22
sheytanim quite out of its life20:22
apacheloggersheytan: I have no idea20:23
apacheloggerwhen I am not busy I am drunk20:24
* apachelogger is as useful as air condition in the arctic20:24
* sheytan feeling the same20:24
sheytani mean of course myself :)20:24
Riddellsheytan: a bit of artwork we need done at some point is name badges for fosdem20:52
Riddelllike these http://www.bartcoppens.be/blogimages/fosdem2011_group.jpg20:53
Riddellkde wallpaper plus logo plus lighter area for names20:53
Riddellplus fosdem logo20:53
Riddellin svg20:53
Riddelland then I'd like to think about getting a KDE poster stand20:54
apacheloggerand a picture of kubotu20:58
apacheloggerno, make that me20:58
apacheloggerhttp://i.imgur.com/QgIf9.png20:58
Riddellyou died your hair!20:59
apachelogger<3 kde21:00
bulldog98apachelogger: I also thought about doing something like that :)21:24
Riddellwe should all die our hair blue for fosdem21:30
apacheloggerand then send a picture to mark? :P21:35
apacheloggerwhy is he not ideling here anymore? :S21:35
Riddell4.7.90 all in ninjas, testers needed!22:09
BarkingFishRiddell: Speaking of testers needed - why was KDE 4.7.3 moved into main from PPA when it's still broken? :P22:10
Riddellplenty of us tested it, do you know what's wrong with it?22:11
BarkingFishI wound up upgrading to it today, after downgrading about a month ago due to issues - I did this to stop apper nagging me :)22:11
BarkingFishRiddell: There is a major bug with plasma-desktop - It's crashing at will, whenever it freely wishes to - it can be on opening a program, using one, closing a program...22:12
BarkingFishIt's done it 3 times today - twice when I've opened xchat, third time was when I opened systemsettings to change my color scheme22:13
Riddelldid you find out what upstream thought about the backtrace?  did you try 4.7.4?22:13
BarkingFishI've filed with KDE already, it seems it wasn't just me with the issue - 22:14
BarkingFishand no I haven't tried 4.7.4 - 4.7.3 only just went into stable, I dread risking 4.7.4 when 4.7.3 is busted :)22:15
BarkingFishthe report seems to have gone, looks like it was marked as a duplicate22:19
BarkingFishI have to reboot anyhow quickly - so I'll check to see whether it happens again when I restart xchat on my return - if it does, I'll pastebin the backtrace for you to take a look at, Riddell :)22:22
BarkingFishBTW, I hope you're feeling much better now - I just realised who I was talking to...  22:23
BarkingFishI'll be back in a bit :)22:23
Riddellwell there's no point in testing .3 now that .4 is available, you'd be best testing that22:23
BarkingFishRiddell: so I have to upgrade to .4 realising there's a potential that it might be borked... when I have a system I already know is borked :P22:24
BarkingFishnice :)22:24
Riddellthat's what testing is all about22:24
BarkingFishI guess broken to broken ain't all that different :)22:24
BarkingFishI'll reenable my ppa in apper, move up to .4 and be back in a bit - although I'll let you know, according to kde's bugzilla, plasma bugs are still present in 4.7.4 :)22:25
BarkingFishSo I guess this is a bit of a foregone conclusion, but what the hey :)22:25
BarkingFishback in a while, now upgrading to 4.7.422:28
Riddell4.7.90 depends on liblzma5 (>= 5.1.1alpha+20110809) where does that come from?22:54
Riddelloh, needs precise22:56
Riddelland I'm on oneiric22:56
Riddellduh22:56
BarkingFishRiddell: Right - I have good news for you... I've just tested 4.7.4 with everything that I can possibly throw at it, and Plasma has not crashed once.23:15
BarkingFishI've even tried to deliberately crash it by opening about 30 apps at once, and it's still not died.  23:15
BarkingFish4.7.4 appears on the outside to be more stable than 4.7.3 - i'd recommend getting it into main as soon as possible :)23:16
RiddellScottK: &&23:26
Riddell^^23:26
RiddellBarkingFish: please add your results to the table at the bottom of https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging23:27
BarkingFishof course I will, I'm as pleased as hell at the moment :)  23:27
BarkingFishdo you use the same wiki code on there as regular wikis, mediawiki code?23:41
BarkingFishRiddell: I can't update the table there - the kubuntu wiki appears to be borked23:47
BarkingFish"Internal Server Error: The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request."23:48
Riddelltry https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging23:48
BarkingFishthat's where I am now23:48
RiddellI need to moan to sysadmins about the frequent timeouts23:48
BarkingFishoops sorry, misread 23:48
BarkingFishI'll try that one instead23:48
BarkingFishAnd firefox won't let me go to that one :)  It wants me to add a security exception before it will let me!23:50
BarkingFishand now I got there, I get this :)23:53
BarkingFish"The requested URL /Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging was not found on this server."23:53
BarkingFish!!!"&$*££&&"!23:53
* BarkingFish mumbles something under his breath about a live chicken, a rabbi and a sledgehammer23:54

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