[18:10] <ScottK> Riddell: It looks to me (at least from skimming git commit logs) that kdepim for 4.8 is going to need a git snapshot of Akonadi.
[18:27] <Riddell> ScottK: ug
[19:48] <apachelogger> Sput: when will quassel grow script0ring or something? :S
[19:53] <apachelogger> when are we switching to clang?
[19:54] <Riddell> apachelogger: what is clang?
[19:55] <Riddell> "Clang project is a new C, C++, Objective C and Objective C++ front-end for the LLVM compiler."
[19:55] <apachelogger> c compiler for llvm
[19:55] <apachelogger> yeah, that ^^
[19:56] <Riddell> because if we used that instead of GCC we couldn't all call it Kubuntu GNU/Linux
[19:56] <apachelogger> sure we can
[19:56] <littlegirl> Hey there, I use Kubuntu Lucid Lynx. My package manager is configured to check for updates daily and display a notification if there are any. My System Tray is configured to display all icons. I used to get notified of updates to packages, but haven't for a couple of months now. Where can I check for what's causing this?
[19:56] <apachelogger> but it'd be GNU/Apple/Linux
[19:56] <apachelogger> hrrr
[19:56] <apachelogger> littlegirl: #kubuntu for support please
[19:57] <littlegirl> apachelogger: Yes, I've tried that. Repeatedly. Nobody helps me. Can you please recommend another place?
[19:58] <apachelogger> not really, you'll have to wait, unfortunately I'll not be any help there either
[20:17] <apachelogger> sheytan: ping
[20:18] <sheytan> apachelogger: pongy
[20:18] <apachelogger> sheytan: we be needing some changes to the phonon website if at all possible
[20:18] <sheytan> like what?
[20:18] <apachelogger> some box that lists versions of phonon, phonon gstreamer, and phonon vlc
[20:18] <apachelogger> with link to download
[20:19] <sheytan> will take care of that ;)
[20:19] <apachelogger> awesomest
[20:19] <apachelogger> sheytan++
[20:20] <apachelogger> where is kubotu? :S
[20:20] <sheytan> not a problem :)
[20:20] <sheytan> he has free. You can't work all the time :D
[20:21]  * apachelogger interrupts kubotu's vacation
[20:21] <apachelogger> kubotu: h
[20:21] <apachelogger> kubotu: hi
[20:21] <kubotu> hola apachelogger!
[20:21] <sheytan> told ya :D
[20:21] <sheytan> oooh
[20:22] <apachelogger> kubotu: karma sheytan
[20:22] <kubotu> karma for sheytan: 3
[20:22] <apachelogger> sheytan++
[20:22] <apachelogger> kubotu: you be around when I increment someone!!!!!
[20:22] <sheytan> apachelogger: so, how's kubuntu development going novadays?
[20:22] <sheytan> im quite out of its life
[20:23] <apachelogger> sheytan: I have no idea
[20:24] <apachelogger> when I am not busy I am drunk
[20:24]  * apachelogger is as useful as air condition in the arctic
[20:24]  * sheytan feeling the same
[20:24] <sheytan> i mean of course myself :)
[20:52] <Riddell> sheytan: a bit of artwork we need done at some point is name badges for fosdem
[20:53] <Riddell> like these http://www.bartcoppens.be/blogimages/fosdem2011_group.jpg
[20:53] <Riddell> kde wallpaper plus logo plus lighter area for names
[20:53] <Riddell> plus fosdem logo
[20:53] <Riddell> in svg
[20:54] <Riddell> and then I'd like to think about getting a KDE poster stand
[20:58] <apachelogger> and a picture of kubotu
[20:58] <apachelogger> no, make that me
[20:58] <apachelogger> http://i.imgur.com/QgIf9.png
[20:59] <Riddell> you died your hair!
[21:00] <apachelogger> <3 kde
[21:24] <bulldog98> apachelogger: I also thought about doing something like that :)
[21:30] <Riddell> we should all die our hair blue for fosdem
[21:35] <apachelogger> and then send a picture to mark? :P
[21:35] <apachelogger> why is he not ideling here anymore? :S
[22:09] <Riddell> 4.7.90 all in ninjas, testers needed!
[22:10] <BarkingFish> Riddell: Speaking of testers needed - why was KDE 4.7.3 moved into main from PPA when it's still broken? :P
[22:11] <Riddell> plenty of us tested it, do you know what's wrong with it?
[22:11] <BarkingFish> I wound up upgrading to it today, after downgrading about a month ago due to issues - I did this to stop apper nagging me :)
[22:12] <BarkingFish> Riddell: There is a major bug with plasma-desktop - It's crashing at will, whenever it freely wishes to - it can be on opening a program, using one, closing a program...
[22:13] <BarkingFish> It's done it 3 times today - twice when I've opened xchat, third time was when I opened systemsettings to change my color scheme
[22:13] <Riddell> did you find out what upstream thought about the backtrace?  did you try 4.7.4?
[22:14] <BarkingFish> I've filed with KDE already, it seems it wasn't just me with the issue - 
[22:15] <BarkingFish> and no I haven't tried 4.7.4 - 4.7.3 only just went into stable, I dread risking 4.7.4 when 4.7.3 is busted :)
[22:19] <BarkingFish> the report seems to have gone, looks like it was marked as a duplicate
[22:22] <BarkingFish> I have to reboot anyhow quickly - so I'll check to see whether it happens again when I restart xchat on my return - if it does, I'll pastebin the backtrace for you to take a look at, Riddell :)
[22:23] <BarkingFish> BTW, I hope you're feeling much better now - I just realised who I was talking to...  
[22:23] <BarkingFish> I'll be back in a bit :)
[22:23] <Riddell> well there's no point in testing .3 now that .4 is available, you'd be best testing that
[22:24] <BarkingFish> Riddell: so I have to upgrade to .4 realising there's a potential that it might be borked... when I have a system I already know is borked :P
[22:24] <BarkingFish> nice :)
[22:24] <Riddell> that's what testing is all about
[22:24] <BarkingFish> I guess broken to broken ain't all that different :)
[22:25] <BarkingFish> I'll reenable my ppa in apper, move up to .4 and be back in a bit - although I'll let you know, according to kde's bugzilla, plasma bugs are still present in 4.7.4 :)
[22:25] <BarkingFish> So I guess this is a bit of a foregone conclusion, but what the hey :)
[22:28] <BarkingFish> back in a while, now upgrading to 4.7.4
[22:54] <Riddell> 4.7.90 depends on liblzma5 (>= 5.1.1alpha+20110809) where does that come from?
[22:56] <Riddell> oh, needs precise
[22:56] <Riddell> and I'm on oneiric
[22:56] <Riddell> duh
[23:15] <BarkingFish> Riddell: Right - I have good news for you... I've just tested 4.7.4 with everything that I can possibly throw at it, and Plasma has not crashed once.
[23:15] <BarkingFish> I've even tried to deliberately crash it by opening about 30 apps at once, and it's still not died.  
[23:16] <BarkingFish> 4.7.4 appears on the outside to be more stable than 4.7.3 - i'd recommend getting it into main as soon as possible :)
[23:26] <Riddell> ScottK: &&
[23:26] <Riddell> ^^
[23:27] <Riddell> BarkingFish: please add your results to the table at the bottom of https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging
[23:27] <BarkingFish> of course I will, I'm as pleased as hell at the moment :)  
[23:41] <BarkingFish> do you use the same wiki code on there as regular wikis, mediawiki code?
[23:47] <BarkingFish> Riddell: I can't update the table there - the kubuntu wiki appears to be borked
[23:48] <BarkingFish> "Internal Server Error: The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request."
[23:48] <Riddell> try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging
[23:48] <BarkingFish> that's where I am now
[23:48] <Riddell> I need to moan to sysadmins about the frequent timeouts
[23:48] <BarkingFish> oops sorry, misread 
[23:48] <BarkingFish> I'll try that one instead
[23:50] <BarkingFish> And firefox won't let me go to that one :)  It wants me to add a security exception before it will let me!
[23:53] <BarkingFish> and now I got there, I get this :)
[23:53] <BarkingFish> "The requested URL /Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging was not found on this server."
[23:53] <BarkingFish> !!!"&$*££&&"!
[23:54]  * BarkingFish mumbles something under his breath about a live chicken, a rabbi and a sledgehammer