[00:00] <kavurt> do we need empathy to be able to make video call in telepathy-kde with gtalk?
[00:18] <JoeSomebody> hi, acer asspire 5320 has no wireless, how do i fix?
[00:19] <BarkingFish> JoeSomebody: do you have a manual handy for it?
[00:19] <JoeSomebody> under additional drivers is nothing, can't enable wireless greyed out
[00:19] <JoeSomebody> manual nope
[00:20] <BarkingFish> The aspire 5320 had more than one wireless chip inbuilt during production, some had atheros chips, others had broadcom.
[00:20] <BarkingFish> I'd need to know which is in yours to get it to work right :)
[00:21] <JoeSomebody> i think it showed as atheros ar52 in another linux kde live cd
[00:21] <BarkingFish> ah
[00:22] <BarkingFish> it should work with one of the inbuilt kernel modules then, ath5k
[00:22] <BarkingFish> can you open up a terminal for me?  press Alt+F2, and type Konsole, hit enter
[00:22] <JoeSomebody> ok
[00:23] <BarkingFish> It supports the AR5210, 5211, 5212 and 5213
[00:23] <BarkingFish> so if your card is one of those, this should work.
[00:24] <JoeSomebody> ok
[00:24] <BarkingFish> do you have a terminal open?
[00:24] <JoeSomebody> yes
[00:24] <BarkingFish> ok, i want you to type in:   sudo modprobe ath5k
[00:24] <BarkingFish> you'll get asked for your password
[00:25] <JoeSomebody> ok
[00:25] <BarkingFish> if you get any error messages - tell me :)
[00:25] <JoeSomebody> it said nothing back
[00:25] <BarkingFish> excellent
[00:26] <genii-around> Perhaps: dmesg | tail   to see what it said when the module loaded
[00:26] <BarkingFish> yup, was just getting to that :)
[00:27] <BarkingFish> I was also gonna ask for lspci -nn | grep wireless  just to get the PCIID back for it :)
[00:27] <BarkingFish> JoeSomebody: If you type in what genii-around showed you, dmesg | tail - the results should contain something about the module you just loaded
[00:29] <BarkingFish> Do you see anything there?
[00:30] <JoeSomebody> nothing that i understand
[00:30] <BarkingFish> hm
[00:30]  * genii-around makes more coffee
[00:31] <JoeSomebody> what is the easiest way to get that laptop chatting here? firefox?
[00:31] <Kottizen> JoeSomebody: http://webchat.freenode.net
[00:32] <BarkingFish> JoeSomebody: could you do something please?  on your terminal, could you type: sudo apt-get install pastebinit    ?
[00:32] <BarkingFish> it might be easier to check the output if we could get it pasted up to look at :)
[00:35] <BarkingFish> when it's finished installing, if you could please type: dmesg | tail | pastebinit
[00:35] <BarkingFish> it will return a URL to you, if you could copy that into the channel, it would be appreciated :)
[00:40] <BarkingFish> JoeSomebody: Are you still with us?
[00:40] <TheAncientGoat> Nepomuk seems to be getting stuck / takes a long time to index files, and seems to be re-indexing the same files every time I restart
[00:40] <BarkingFish> Aha! There you are!  Hi again JoeSomebody :)
[00:41] <TheAncientGoat> Also, searching always gives me the same results
[00:41] <TheAncientGoat> namely files with non-latin characters
[00:42] <TheAncientGoat> also, I have to hit a key every time I boot "no sparse files allowed" after selecting BTRFS for my root partition
[00:42] <DrClaw> hello
[00:42] <TheAncientGoat> hmm, what else can I complain about :P
[00:42] <JoeSomebody> cant type in there, forget it
[00:43] <BarkingFish> JoeSomebody: You can't?  What happens when you try?
[00:43] <JoeSomebody> i am not doing it right now i don't have the time
[00:43] <JoeSomebody> no kb no mouse
[00:43] <JoeSomebody> so scerw it
[00:43] <BarkingFish> Ok, well if you want to come back some other time, we'll try and help you get everything working properly :)
[00:43] <JoeSomebody> i was hoping there was a driver
[00:44] <BarkingFish> We saw you connect - was that from the laptop?
[00:44] <JoeSomebody> in older ubuntui i used it was easy
[00:44] <JoeSomebody> what happened to the easy ?
[00:44] <JoeSomebody> yes i saw and had no place to type
[00:45] <BarkingFish> I can't say, I've only been on Kubuntu for about 6 months, but wireless is my kinda speciality
[00:45] <JoeSomebody> i'll do it when i have tiem to install and configure xchat, NOT TODAY
[00:46] <BarkingFish> JoeSomebody: of course - you're free to come back to us any time you wish. We're always here, and we'll do our darndest to get you working right
[00:46] <JoeSomebody> ubuntu is supposed to be better than other linux for this stuff
[00:47] <BarkingFish> There's ubuntu, and there's us - some of the things you do in regular ubuntu are done differently in Kubuntu, but all with the same intended result
[00:47] <JoeSomebody> its actually another person sitting at the laptop, and he cant handle where this is going
[00:47] <JoeSomebody> if it was easy then ok, but its kicking me , of course
[00:48] <BarkingFish> well you might want to follow some of the info we have on the net if you'd like it to read at your leisure :)
[00:48] <JoeSomebody> is there any other easy way for him?
[00:48] <BarkingFish> !wireless
[00:48] <BarkingFish> If you sit down with him and have a read through the information there, it's probably a little easier to chew through than I can explain it :)
[00:50] <BarkingFish> Unfortunately, I have to go now. It's late here, and I need to go get some sleep.
[00:50] <JoeSomebody>  well thanks we shall try another day, plugged in for now
[00:50] <BarkingFish> As I say, you can come here and ask any time you need to - we'll help you any way we can
[00:51] <BarkingFish> JoeSomebody: you're welcome.
[00:51] <BarkingFish> Right guys, that's my lot - 12.51AM, and I'm out
[00:51] <BarkingFish> night all, be good.
[00:56] <TheAncientGoat> where did sun-java go?
[01:01] <OerHeks> TheAncientGoat, went to Oracle-Java
[01:01] <TheAncientGoat> Not in the repos though?
[01:02] <TheAncientGoat> OerHeks: I only see openjdk and gcj
[01:02] <OerHeks> no java7 is not packaged yet > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[01:03] <TheAncientGoat> OerHeks: Ok, so they removed sun-java, but haven't packaged a new one yet? Crikey...
[01:04] <N00bish> hey, can anyone advise me re: kde's ftp server. atm it's only accepting sftp connections but i'd like to accept ftp as well or instead of. i didnt set up the ftp server and im not sure how to change the settings on it.
[01:07] <N00bish> under "network settings" and "ftp options" there is only a choice re: passive mode and to mark partially uploaded files.
[01:28] <N00bish> anyone know how to allow ftp not just sftp on the native ftp server (fzsftp) ?
[01:28] <N00bish> or do i need wine + filezilla server? :/
[01:37] <mj7> Hey guys, I wonder if someone have reported slow connection speeds? I tried Ubuntu and Fedora on my Dell N5010 for while, but it takes 15 sec to load any website or any picture etc.
[01:37] <mj7> tried wireless and wired internet
[01:37] <mj7> windows loads up instantly like it sopose to
[01:38] <mj7> this never happened to me in my life been using linux for years.
[02:33] <stfollower> Hi, how do i install firefox and chromium in kubuntu 11.10?
[02:37] <kavurt> stfollower: sudo apt-get install firefox chromium-browser
[02:38] <stfollower> any graphical interface?
[02:38] <stfollower> and how about adobe flash player to watch youtube?
[02:39] <kavurt> use muon software center
[02:39] <stfollower> i tried to install chromium and firefox and they didnt come up
[02:39] <kavurt> install kubuntu-restricted-extras as well
[02:39] <stfollower> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras?
[02:40] <kavurt> did you try firefox installer under applications/internet?
[02:40] <stfollower> i did
[02:40] <kavurt> what does it say?
[02:40] <stfollower> gave me a msg that it wasnt in repos
[02:41] <stfollower> do i have to install nvidia drivers in kubuntu?
[02:43] <kavurt> i don't know that
[02:45] <stfollower> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras  <--- that installed whatever i needed to watch youtube :)
[02:47] <kavurt> so can you watch youtube?
[02:47] <OerHeks> restart browser after install flash
[02:47] <stfollower> yeap
[02:48] <stfollower> so wheather flash was in that pkg with the restricted extras, i dont know, all i know is that it works!!!!
[02:48] <kavurt> stfollower: i don't know what's wrong with firefox, but you can download and install google chrome from their site
[02:49] <stfollower> firefox was installed with your first command aswell
[02:49] <stfollower> let me check chromium...
[02:49] <kavurt> flash package should be flashplugin-nonfree, but that's included in kubuntu-restricted extras
[02:49] <stfollower> sure enough, its there too!!! thank you
[02:49] <stfollower> kavurt:  thanks aton!
[02:50] <kavurt> no problem
[02:50] <stfollower> i will save those commands lol
[03:05] <lonewolf_> here
[03:06] <lonewolf_> need some help with networking a printer. os is kubuntu to another kubuntu.
[06:17] <TheAncientGoat> guys, wtf is up with tasks not ending when they're started in konsole
[07:47] <MacSeal> hi all,how to fix the error in temp of this plasmoide http://imagebin.org/188991
[08:45] <mofo> ne1 from nz?
[09:29] <Firefishe> I'm using kubuntu 11.10, but this is a more generic question.  When using Firefox on a particular online school's web site, there is a certain point where I have to make a post to their forums.  When the forum dialog comes up in a new tab/window (etc.), in Firefox, I can't enter text.  In chromium, I can, and their are editing buttons.
[09:29] <Firefishe> What causes this?
[09:55] <OrdosTrinitus__> firefish i'm having the same problem with clicking on buttons on twitter
[09:55] <OrdosTrinitus__> i think  javascript is the problem
[10:09] <sagaci> !info quassel
[10:12] <OrdosTrinitus__> does anyone know why a eee(atom) netbook would have a dim screen in kubuntu but not with windows?
[10:13] <OrdosTrinitus__> i have amaxed out all the brightness values but it is still very dim
[11:03] <tadas1> hhhi
[11:03] <tadas1> ?
[11:06] <OrdosTrinitus__> hi tad
[11:07] <Nessuno> !help
[11:08] <Nessuno> !patience
[11:32] <cyrose> bonjours comment on rejoint le canal fr svp?
[11:34] <Peace-> !fr | cyrose
[12:48] <alban42> Good Afternoon  Does anybody know of a repositery for Kubuntu to add  for Kde 4.8 ??
[12:56] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[13:41] <BluesKaj> !bcm
[13:41] <BluesKaj> !bcm43
[13:41] <BluesKaj> !bcm43XX
[13:41] <Peace-> :S
[14:11] <alban42> Does anybody know of a repositery for Kubuntu to add  for Kde 4.7.90 Ive Read That a Lot of The Kmail Bugs Have Been Fixed in This Version & I Would Dearly Like to Upgrade From Kubuntu 4.7.3
[14:12] <alban42>  as this version of kmail is as mutch fun as a trip to the dentist OUCH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[14:19] <BluesKaj> alban42, there might be a ppa , but i haven't checked launchpad , you might find one there
[14:23] <Ddpbf> alban42: ask yofel_, he is one of ninjas
[14:24] <Ddpbf> it would appear in some of their ppas
[15:02] <rar> Heya
[15:02] <rar> One question
[15:02] <rar> How is Kubuntu 11.10 (?)
[15:04] <Peace-> rar:  it's this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_qR-7FQHxc
[15:05] <rar> Unity (?)
[15:05] <rar> in Kubuntu there is unity (?)
[15:05] <Peace-> rar: it's not unity but it's like it
[15:05] <Peace-> it'a dock
[15:06] <rar> oh...
[15:06] <Peace-> rar: you can add it or not
[15:06] <rar> i didn't install Ubuntu 11.10
[15:06] <Peace-> as you wish
[15:06] <rar> because i can't use gnome classic
[15:06] <rar> in 11.04 I can...
[15:06] <rar> i never used KDE...
[15:07] <Peace-> rar: in that video there is even a panel called gnome2
[15:07] <rar> but i saw some programs as Knotes, kvirc etc, that are rare in gnome
[15:07] <Peace-> they are just panels
[15:07] <Peace-> on kde oyu can choose what you want
[15:08] <rar> i don't know if stay with ubuntu 11.04 or go to kubuntu 11.10
[15:08] <Peace-> bah the best thing is have 2 partitions
[15:08] <Peace-> one for 11.04 and 11.10 kde
[15:09] <Peace-> if you like good you ca keep
[15:09] <Peace-> if you don't you can erase it
[15:10] <rar> well yes
[15:10] <rar> i have got actually windows and ubuntu
[15:10] <rar> and i haven't got much more space
[15:10] <Peace-> ah
[15:10] <rar> what space needs the / partition (?)
[15:11] <rar> i can just create a /, and use the same /home and swap
[15:11] <Peace->  / can be 10 gigs
[15:11] <Peace-> yes
[15:11] <Peace-> i have that situation
[15:11] <Peace-> 2 / of 10 and 15 gigs
[15:11] <Peace->  /home is shared
[15:11] <Peace-> and swap too
[15:13] <rar> oh
[15:13] <rar> i think i have got 10 gbs :)
[15:13] <rar> actually my / of ubuntu is 30GB
[15:13] <rar> i can reduce it a little, anyway
[15:15] <Peace-> of course
[15:16] <Peace-> you coudl do 20 gigs for ubuntu 11.04 and 10 for kde 11.10
[15:22] <alban42> THANKS BluesKaj &Ddpaf For the Info ...
[15:32] <rar> Ok Peace-
[15:32] <rar> i never used KDE...
[15:33] <Peace-> rar: no problem rar you can see this
[15:34] <Peace-> rar: do you have a good computer or old one?
[15:34] <rar> it's an acer aspire 6930
[15:34] <rar> it isn't old
[15:34] <rar> i bought it at january 2010
[15:34] <Peace-> rar:  ok http://nowardev.wordpress.com/usefull-link-for-kubuntu-and-multimedia-stuff/setkubuntuproperly/
[15:35] <Peace-> rar: it's my blog it's not official but you can be sure ou can write me if you hav some problem
[15:37] <rar> ok
[15:50] <BluesKaj> Peace-, you need to adit the path: kdesudo kate/etc/init.d/rc, on your site , a space after kate is required
[15:50] <BluesKaj> err edit ^
[15:50] <Peace-> BluesKaj: where?
[15:51] <BluesKaj>  http://nowardev.wordpress.com/usefull-link-for-kubuntu-and-multimedia-stuff/setkubuntuproperly/
[15:54] <Peace-> BluesKaj: thank oyu very much
[15:54] <Peace-> -.- you
[15:54] <BluesKaj> ok , np Peace-
[16:21] <rar> Peace-: look at this:
[16:21] <rar> http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=918
[16:21] <rar> i think i'll buy this
[16:21] <Peace-> rar: buy?
[16:21] <Peace-> rar: why not download?
[16:21] <rar> because i want
[16:21] <rar> x"D
[16:21] <Peace-> ah
[16:21] <Peace-> xD
[16:22] <rar> i preffer paying for a thing that I CHOICE if pay or not
[16:22] <rar> that pay for a thing that I HAVE to pay
[16:41] <volodya> is it me, or kubuntu neither notices when external monitor is plugged in, nor does it have any way to easily toggle between internal screen and external and all other combinations?
[16:45] <Peace-> volodya: here works fine
[16:45] <Peace-> volodya: run this
[16:45] <Peace-> volodya: krandrtray
[16:46] <volodya> Peace-: hmm. Do you have nvidia hardware, or something else?
[16:47] <volodya> Peace-: for me, this thing just believes I have 1 monitor, and has a combobox to select size of that, which combobox does not do anything.
[16:49] <Peace-> oh
[16:50] <Peace-> volodya: for nvdia you need to run sudo nvidia-settings
[16:50] <Peace-> i guess
[16:50] <Peace-> i have ati
[16:50] <Peace-> volodya: btw you need to install proprietary software , then run sudo nvidia-settings
[16:50] <Peace-> and it shoudl works out of the box
[16:50] <volodya> nvidia-settings is what I use, and it neither auto-detected plugged in monitor nor does it handle any hotkeys
[16:50] <Peace-> volodya: jockey-kde
[16:51] <volodya> I basically want to switch to external monitors as soon as laptop is docked, and switch to internal panel as soon as undocked.
[16:52] <Peace-> volodya: i know that with nvidia it works
[16:52] <Peace-> volodya: but maybe you have to reinstall the drivers
[16:52] <Peace-> volodya: i would check jockey-kde
[16:52] <volodya> Well, I am fairly sure I have most current nvidia drivers anyway.
[16:53] <Peace-> volodya: that is what i know my friend has fixed reinstallin the driver
[16:53] <volodya> I given that I see no option anywhere in nvidia-settings to auto-switch monitors, I doubt reinstallation will help
[16:53] <Peace-> and settings well nvidia-settings
[16:53] <Peace-> volodya: ok sorry i have no idea
[16:53] <Peace-> !nvidia
[17:32] <alban42> Hello Yofeel _    do you have a Minuite Spare
[17:32] <alban42> Ddpvf Sujested I ask you
[17:33] <alban42> Do you Know of a 4.7.90 Repositery I can Add to Kubuntu, Ive done a Google & can Find a Beta 2  but No Repositery ??
[17:34] <BluesKaj> alban42, his name is yofel , otherwise his name won't highlight
[17:35] <BluesKaj> alban42, you can search for a ppa as well
[17:36] <BluesKaj> !ppa | alban42
[17:50] <alban42> thanks ubottu dfor the info   I did not understand what a ppa was  !!
[17:55] <AlexZion> hi  guys , few days ago , I did an update to 4.7.4 version of kde , and after that I cannot see anymore the customized icons folder I had before
[17:56] <AlexZion> any idea ?
[17:57] <AlexZion> rigth now all the customized icons appears with the gear icon ..., quite strabge isn't ?
[17:57] <alban42> thanks BluesKaj
[17:58] <AlexZion> and checking on the proprieties, seems correct , but just doesn't get visualized ....
[17:58] <Peace-> AlexZion: ?
[17:58] <Peace-> AlexZion: screenshot
[17:58] <AlexZion> hi Peace- , how are you buddy ...
[18:00] <Peace-> AlexZion: so the screen?
[18:00] <AlexZion> http://i.imgur.com/riy9z.png
[18:00] <AlexZion> here
[18:00] <Peace-> opening
[18:01] <Peace-> AlexZion: mm check the preview propriets of dolphin
[18:02] <AlexZion> I did Peace-, but I didn't find nothing strange .....
[18:02] <Peace-> those files are what? png
[18:02] <Peace-> jpeg
[18:02] <Peace-> ?
[18:02] <AlexZion> are just link with a ong icon
[18:02] <AlexZion> *png
[18:03] <Peace-> i have here 4.7.4 and i have not issues but i am Peace-
[18:03] <Peace-> xD
[18:04] <AlexZion> of course .... :D
[18:04] <Peace-> AlexZion: file are bigger than 5mb
[18:04] <Peace-> ?
[18:04] <Peace-> AlexZion: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/12/17/plasma-desktopEH9438.jpg
[18:04] <AlexZion> no , file are really small ...
[18:05] <AlexZion> normally no more than 200 kb
[18:06] <Peace-> AlexZion: no idea
[18:07] <Peace-> AlexZion: preview is enabled right?
[18:07] <Peace-> i mean on dolphin main bar
[18:07] <AlexZion> yeah , sure Peace-...
[18:22] <BarkingFish> Anyone about? I need some help here, and as quick as possible please :)
[18:22] <BarkingFish> I'm updating to KDE 4.7.3 via apper, and it's hung
[18:23] <BarkingFish> The install has stopped at 90% with kwalletmanager, and hasn't moved for well over 30 minutes.
[18:24] <BarkingFish> I just logged into my tty1, and it says ***System restart required*** - I'm scared that if I reboot, I'll lose my net connection, and the install won't complete.  I don't want to leave KDE half installed.
[18:26] <Peace-> BarkingFish: stop apper
[18:26] <Peace-> BarkingFish: go in the terminal
[18:27] <Peace-> -.-
[18:50] <bniyaseen_> hi
[18:50] <peter_> hi
[19:52] <littlegirl> Hey there, I use Kubuntu Lucid Lynx. My package manager is configured to check for updates daily and display a notification if there are any. My System Tray is configured to display all icons. I don't get notified of updates. Where can I check for what's causing this?
[19:53] <littlegirl> Also, I used to get notified of updates. A couple of months ago it stopped, without any changes to any system settings by me.
[19:58] <OerHeks> littlegirl, what do you get when you open terminal: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:59] <littlegirl> OerHeks: That updates me. I don't want to update manually. I want to debug my notifications.
[20:00] <OerHeks> littlegirl, so the update is not blocked, just the notification
[20:03] <littlegirl> OerHeks: Yes. The notification stopped showing up in my tray, and I'm trying to find out how to get it back. I haven't changed my tray settings since Lucid Lynx came out, so it's not something I've done. All my settings in the package manager and in System Tray Settings are such that notifications should be showing up. I don't see any widgets that are missing. Is there something else I can check?
[20:08] <BluesKaj> littlegirl, I assume you've checked system settings>application and system notifications>manage notifications>launch feedback, enable taskbar notification
[20:13] <BluesKaj> littlegirl, kmenu>computer>system settings>application and system notifications>manage notifications>launch feedback, enable taskbar notification
[20:13] <littlegirl> BluesKaj: No, I hadn't, but I did now. (: It's named slightly differently for me, but I went in there and found the KPackageKit settings. Each one has Plkay a sound and Show a message in a popup checked. None of them have Mark taskbar entry checked. What does Mark taskbar entry do?
[20:14] <littlegirl> BluesKaj: For me it's kmenu>Settings>System Settings>Notifications>Applications
[20:14] <BluesKaj> it enables the global notifications
[20:15] <littlegirl> BluesKaj: Should I enable that for all of them and see if that does it?
[20:15] <littlegirl> They really should rename that to "Enable global notifications".  (:
[20:15] <BluesKaj> yes , you should try it , littlegirl
[20:16] <littlegirl> BluesKaj: Thanks. I'll try that. It may not be until tomorrow that it tries to notify me since it's once a day, but if it works I won't be back in here, and if it doesn't, you'll be seeing more of me. (:
[20:16] <littlegirl> BluesKaj: Thanks, by the way. (:
[20:17] <BluesKaj> littlegirl, np, let us know , either way pls.
[20:17] <DarkriftX> Ok, so I was trying to backup my system to a new drive. restore partially failed and I had to install ubuntu 11.10 over kubuntu 11.04. I then installed kubuntu-(base|main?) and KDE is mostly working. I get tons of nepomuk crash errors when I startup along with a lot of errors from different libs. Should I use apt to reinstall kubuntu-whatever?
[20:17] <littlegirl> BluesKaj: Will do. I enabled it and nothing has happened yet, but I don't know what time of day it does it, so it could be a while. (:
[20:19] <BluesKaj> lit , also check your repositories in the package manager that is installed on your OS , which is ?
[20:19] <BluesKaj> oops, too late
[20:19] <DarkriftX> she go baibai
[20:21] <BluesKaj> DarkriftX, install kubuntu-desktop
[20:21] <DarkriftX> reinstall? I am pretty sure that package is installed
[20:21] <DarkriftX> but seems to have some bad libs (prob due to the partial fail on the restore)
[20:22] <BluesKaj> ok then sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[20:24] <DarkriftX> hrmmmm, seems to me that .5 seconds is too fast for that to have worked
[20:27] <BluesKaj> did it install or remove any packages . DarkriftX ?
[20:33] <DarkriftX> BluesKaj: it reinstalled the package, but it was so fast I would assume it is a meta package
[20:33] <DarkriftX> no download or actual work seemed to happen
[20:34] <BluesKaj> it's a meta that gathers in all the default apps
[20:34] <DarkriftX> so does reinstall on a meta package actually do anything besides make sure all the deps for that meta are installed?
[20:35] <DarkriftX> Im not an expert so I am not sure, just going by what it seemed like
[20:35] <BluesKaj> well , it fixes any broken packages or at least tries to
[20:35] <DarkriftX> ok
[20:36] <DarkriftX> Also, the kpackagekit(sp?) seems to have a problem asking for auth. I click update and about 10s later I get an error that auth was not given, but was never prompted for
[20:36] <DarkriftX> I can use apt-get for the manual stuff, but I wonder why its not asking for auth
[20:36] <BluesKaj> DarkriftX, which kubuntu ?
[20:37] <DarkriftX> I had 11.04, then had to use a ubuntu 11.10 cd to upgrade it since it was dead. I then used apt to install kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu 11.10
[20:38] <BluesKaj> ok , do-release-upgrade
[20:39] <DarkriftX> no new release found
[20:39] <DarkriftX> cat /etc/lsb-release
[20:39] <DarkriftX> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu  DISTRIB_RELEASE=11.10  DISTRIB_CODENAME=oneiric  DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 11.10"
[20:40] <BluesKaj> ok , sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:40] <DarkriftX> just did
[20:40] <DarkriftX> it updated 266 packages
[20:40] <DarkriftX> except the kernel
[20:41] <DarkriftX> which I assume will come after a reboot, which its asking for
[20:41] <BluesKaj> DarkriftX, make sure your repos are oneiric and not natty in muon , kpackagekit has been depracated
[20:41] <DarkriftX> ahhh, no wonder I couldnt find it in the menu
[20:42] <BluesKaj> especially the partner repos
[20:43] <DarkriftX> ok, this moun is actually what was running and couldnt auth
[20:43] <DarkriftX> it just looked like a newer version of kpackagekit so I assumed thats what it was
[20:44] <DarkriftX> all active "other" sources are oneiric
[20:44] <BluesKaj> well, I guess it is , just has a new name
[20:45] <BluesKaj> DarkriftX, you can edit by alt+f2 kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list and change anything natty to oneiric
[20:46] <DarkriftX> moun let me edit them
[20:46] <DarkriftX> I think its time for a reboot and prayer :S
[20:46] <DarkriftX> then prob kernel upgrade and another reboot
[20:46] <DarkriftX> guess its time for 3.0
[20:46] <BluesKaj> ok, I'm sure it will boot ok
[20:50] <Salvatore65> ciao
[20:51] <BluesKaj> hello Salvatore65
[20:54] <Salvatore65> ciao
[20:55] <Darkrift> ok, so first boot failed, second worked
[20:56] <Darkrift> still getting tons of nepomuk failure errors
[20:56] <Darkrift> errors show in nepomukstorage.so and libqtcores.so.4
[20:56] <Darkrift> wondering if maybe I should reinstall libqt
[21:00] <BluesKaj> Darkrift, disable nepomuk in startup& shutdown>session management>applications to be excluded from sessions
[21:00] <BluesKaj> then reboot
[21:00] <Darkrift> ok, cool. I take it this is fairly normal and its not needed?
[21:01] <BluesKaj> nepomuk to me is useless , never use it
[21:02] <BluesKaj> trouble is , one can't remove it witout losinf most of kde
[21:03] <BluesKaj> err without losing
[21:04] <Darkrift> ok, most things seem to be back to normal. still getting auth errors on moun, but I can hit up the googs since I havent looked into that on eyet
[21:07] <BluesKaj> Darkrift, franlkly I don't use muon , synaptic is till my fav even tho it brings in gtk libs when installed , I'm not a kde purist .
[21:08] <Darkrift> I prefer apt-get, but I like having something that runs in the backround and keeps stuff updated without having to write a cron
[21:10] <Darkrift> BluesKaj: Thanks for the assistance. I think in the last 4 years, you might have been the one to offer me the most assistance in here. Its appreciated.
[21:10] <BluesKaj> Darkrift, I use synaptic as a reference mostly , to find new apps and their descriptions
[21:11] <BluesKaj> Darkrift, np , I'm an old retired guy , so this has become one of hobbies , besides music and house fixes :)
[21:13] <Darkrift> ok, the other issue (auth) seems to be a known bug in polkit-kde. reinstalling that didnt help, but its not a big deal
[21:40] <wellivea1> hi
[21:41] <wellivea1> meep?
[21:42] <wellivea1>     
[21:44] <BarkingFish> wellivea1: Hi.
[21:44] <BarkingFish> Meep to you too :D
[21:44] <BarkingFish> What can we do for you?
[21:45] <wellivea1> wht is this room for (default irc chat ?
[21:45] <wellivea1> oh kde support
[21:45] <BarkingFish> It's support for the KDE version of Ubuntu, wellivea1 :)
[21:46] <BarkingFish> the default channel on here if you simply want to talk to people, is #defocus
[21:46] <wellivea1> ummi do have a prob whenever i change my monitor settings it brings up like hundreds of windows saying monitor setup has changed and crashes
[21:47] <BarkingFish> but you will have to wait when you go in - if you've never been in there before, there's a voicing system - every so often the staff will voice new arrivals to the channel, and you can then speak.
[21:47] <BarkingFish> wellivea1: OK, What are you using - a laptop or a desktop machine?
[21:48] <wellivea1> laptop a toshiba l305-s5919 its a alternate ppc though
[21:48] <wellivea1> pc i meant
[21:48] <BarkingFish> ah, ok.  Let me just pull up the specs on it and I can see what you should have inside it :)
[21:48] <BarkingFish> Give me a moment please
[21:51] <BarkingFish> looks like your graphics card in that is an intel GMA 4500M, let me see if there's a working driver for that, or if not, what we'd be using :)
[21:51] <wellivea1> yes it is
[21:52] <Darkrift> Anyone have any ideas on how to get past this error while trying to build yasp-scripted? make[2]: *** No rule to make target `/usr/lib/libQtGui.so', needed by `lib/yasp_scripted.so'.  Stop.
[21:52] <Darkrift> I made sure I have libqtgui installed, even reinstalled it
[21:53] <BarkingFish> wellivea1: which display settings are you actually wishing to change?
[21:54] <wellivea1> umm from my default monitonitor  to a acer al1916w 1440x900 75 hz
[21:55] <BarkingFish> ah, you're trying to use an external display?
[21:55] <wellivea1> yes
[21:56] <BarkingFish> right.  Let's see what we can do here then - I can't remember off hand, but I think the 4500M only supports up to 1200x800 resolution... I'll check
[21:56] <wellivea1> it only does it sometimes its an infinite loop so i usually cant click exit by the time it freezes
[21:56] <BarkingFish> i beg your pardon, I'm wrong
[21:56] <BarkingFish> It can support up to 2048x1536 in the right environment
[21:57] <wellivea1> it supports 2500 somethig by like 2000 something i forgot
[21:57] <wellivea1> oops i didnt see that
[21:57] <BluesKaj> Darkrift, what's yasp , not in the repos ...compiling it I see
[21:58] <BarkingFish> The only thing I can reasonably thing of, wellivea1 - is that the resolution you're trying to set isn't supported by the external monitor you're using
[21:59] <wellivea1> my monitors native resolution is 1440 x 900 it says it on the monitor and the driver in windows or linux
[22:00] <BarkingFish> yeah, and the GMA4500M doesn't support 1440x900 - I just found a list of all the resolutions it supports.
[22:00] <wellivea1> i think its the driver because it loops forever but the settings do change it just  gets in a infinite loop with the window
[22:00] <BarkingFish> the closest is 1400 x 1050: 85/75/60 Hz
[22:01] <wellivea1> in windows it did
[22:01] <BarkingFish> BluesKaj: any ideas?
[22:01] <Darkrift> What gui wifi manager do you guys recommend? I want something that will show me available networks, let me choose one, along with a decent at-a-glance signal meter.
[22:01] <wellivea1> it showed 1440 x 1050 in 16:9 and 1440x 900 in 16 :10
[22:01] <Darkrift> I forget what one I had before :S
[22:01] <BarkingFish> I know I've had windows do graphic stuff that linux hasn't been able to do before.
[22:02] <BarkingFish> Darkrift: you might want to try wicd
[22:02] <BarkingFish> That one has the best "at a glance" signal meter yet
[22:02] <Darkrift> BluesKaj: its a system monitor plasmoid
[22:02]  * rar Heya!
[22:02] <Darkrift> highly configurable, and I had it working perfect before my restore
[22:02] <Darkrift> but it wont compile now
[22:02] <Darkrift> yet another sysmonitor plasmoid is the name I think
[22:05] <wellivea1> oh and im using 1440 x 900 right now barking fish it just usually crashes before i can cancel the infinite loop but i got it on now but when i restart it will take forever
[22:06] <wellivea1> it isnt really the res its the message system going into a loop
[22:07] <Darkrift> ok, going to install my new router since I finally have my computer in a semi working condition. Lets hope that goes better than my drive migration did :S
[22:09] <BarkingFish> wellivea1: I can't help you then, sorry.  All I can tell you is the card you're using, and the resolution you're trying to set, aren't compatible - it may be that which is triggering the infinite message loop.
[22:11] <wellivea1> can you refer me to a plase where i can get the files for the driver maybe reinstal
[23:37] <skomorokh> I've tried setting the vsync option on desktop effects and disabling effects entirely but I'm still getting tearing on video on sandy bridge.
[23:37] <skomorokh> Possibly even moving windows though that's more subtle.
[23:37] <skomorokh> Any idea where else I might find a vsync setting that X finds more compelling?
[23:59] <DarkriftX> couple quick questions. in the default network manager, what does "System Connection" mean? also, when updating, I always have some kernel packages that are "held back". I think these are the old non-pae kernels that arent needed since I have the pae. How do I clean that up if so to make sure its only trying to get the single kernel?