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BjornWCan somebody tell me more about how Lubuntu deals with sound/audio? Is it using plain ALSA or PulseAudio or anything else? Where can I read about these things?11:32
bioterroralsa11:33
kvarleyBjornW: LUbuntu uses Alsa by default - http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Main_Page ; https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture11:41
kvarleyBjornW: You can, however, install PulseAudio within LUbuntu. =]11:41
kvarleybioterror: How's it going?11:42
BjornWthanks bioterror and kvarley! I'm trying to automatically switch between soundcards :)11:42
kvarleyBjornW: This looks promising: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/dual-soundcards-in-alsa-293002/  Just search around on forums and wiki pages I guess =)11:43
kvarleyIs there a program I can use for openbox which will let me mimic compiz window tiling?11:43
bioterrorkvarley, fine, I guess, a little tired ;)12:06
kvarleybioterror: Clearly sir, you need more caffeine xD12:06
bioterrorI do need12:06
bioterrorI'm far from my normal daily dosage12:06
kvarleybioterror: haha, withdrawl isn't fun12:08
BjornWHow can I enable the restarting of X (used to ctrl-alt-backspace)12:08
bioterrorsudo service lxdm restart12:09
BjornWthanx bioterror.12:09
bioterrorI dunno why that ctrl-alt-del is disabled by default nowdays12:09
BjornWI'm trying to get Lubuntu to use my other soundcard for the mixer. So far no luck any hints? Ps: lxde.org is down?12:49
bioterrorBjornW, install "pavucontrol"12:49
BjornWbioterror: isn't that just for PulseAudio?12:50
bioterrorhmmm12:50
BjornWPulseAudioVolumeControl == pavucontrol ;)12:51
bioterrorBjornW, what if12:52
bioterroraplay -l12:52
bioterroryou get listing12:52
bioterrorand then alsamixer -c number12:53
BjornWyeah didn't work, since it can't connect to the Pulse Audio server12:53
bioterrorI cant get any sound from my HTPC using HDMI :(12:54
bioterrorI get only from analog12:54
BjornWbioterror: you probably need to set the default audio card to HDMI12:55
bioterrorI've tried12:55
bioterrorI even booted vanilla ubuntu and played with it12:55
bioterrormaybe I'm forced to try windows :G12:55
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bioterrornice18:20
bioterrordaily 12.04 december 1718:20
wxlthat's what yr running bioterror ?18:20
bioterrorlanguage crashes when you hit the installer, and continue borks18:21
bioterrorwhen you hit "back" it will repair the "continue"18:21
wxlhah crazy18:21
bioterrorwxl, if everything goes well, I'll be in ~10mins18:21
wxli installed.. uhh.. yesterday? the day before?18:21
wxldidn't have a problem18:21
wxlbut have in the recent past18:22
wxlruh oh i don't think i filed a bug for that18:25
bioterroroh nice18:25
bioterrorexecuting 'grub install /dev/sda failed."18:25
bioterrorthis is a fatal error.18:25
wxlwow nuts18:27
wxltry yesterdays18:27
wxli'm ON precise right now18:28
bioterror:D18:28
bioterrorlet's have a boot18:28
bioterrordid not go as well as I thought18:31
bioterrormaybe it did not like brtfs18:33
wxlum18:36
wxlpossible18:36
bioterrortrying my favourite jfs now ;)18:36
bioterrorand grub went in18:42
bioterrornice18:42
bioterrorlightdm is the crappiest piece of crap I've ever seen18:50
bioterrorhonestly18:50
bioterrorno packages to be upgraded and it just does not start18:51
bioterrorkeeps flashing on and off18:51
wxloh i had that problem19:05
wxlfixed in the latest tho19:05
wxli don't know why the hell you're seeing that issue19:05
wxlthat is because of unity-greeter crashing (yeah, right?)19:05
bioterrornope19:05
wxlwhat you got in your log?19:06
bioterrornothing :D19:06
bioterrorI'm trying to startx19:06
wxlbaaah19:06
wxland it looks like it's going to load the dm, then poops out to framebuffer, then dm, framebuffer, etc. ad infinitum19:07
bioterrorno errors no warnings19:07
wxl?19:07
bioterroryes19:07
bioterrorbut fb should not be used with KMS?19:07
wxltail /var/log/syslog19:07
bioterrormhmmm19:08
bioterrorI'mm start lightdm and ssh into this19:08
wxlyou could also just boot into recovery and see it that way19:08
wxlnot sure why this doesn't show fixed as it is but https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-greeter/+bug/89974219:09
ubot5Ubuntu bug 899742 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu) "unity-greeter segfault in libgio-2.0.so.0.3000.1 on Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1" [Undecided,Confirmed]19:09
wxljust fyi here's what i've been successful with19:10
wxl$ cat /var/log/installer/media-info19:10
wxlLubuntu 12.04 "Precise Pangolin" - Alpha i386 (20111214)19:10
wxlso i guess it's actually 3 days old19:11
wxlhopefully there's not a regression19:11
bioterroryes, my dmesg was full of unity-greeter19:12
wxlsounds like we may have a regression then19:12
bioterrorwhy "startlubuntu" does not work :P19:13
wxlyou should file a bug on unity-greeter19:17
wxlwhat is the output of /var/log/installer/media-info?19:18
bioterrorI dunno, I made .xinitrc with "exec startlubuntu"19:18
bioterror:-)19:18
wxli guess what i'm getting at is that this is similar to a bug we've already seen19:20
wxlthat being said i don't think the problem is in anything except unity-greeter19:21
wxland it sounds like we have a regression19:21
bioterrorenabled proposes19:21
wxlunless your iso is <2011121419:21
wxlproposed never fixed it for me19:21
wxlwe'll see19:22
bioterrornothing to upgrade19:22
bioterrorthis is actually easy to fix19:26
bioterrorI'll add text to grub's default and update-grub ;)19:26
bioterrorand once in a while I'll try to launch lightdm19:26
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bioterrorI hate this when I alt+f2 and that run does not get on top of everything19:49
wxlditto19:49
bioterrorchromium should use GTK theme by default19:54
bioterror    <layer>normal</layer>19:57
bioterror    # 'above', 'normal', or 'below'19:57
bioterrorthat could be it19:57
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bioterroroh well, gmrun works out of the box20:00
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bioterrorhmmm21:17
bioterrorI could configure my tty to startx when I log in21:18
bioterrorwxl, now I'll never need lightdm in my life ;)21:29
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bioterrorwxl, are you there?22:42
bioterrorwhat's this22:53
bioterrorno AMD64 flashplugin?22:53
wxlbioterror: now23:03
bioterrorwhat did I have in my mind23:03
bioterrorI really should write them instantly23:03
* wxl gets out his book of psychosis23:03
bioterrordo you have "suspend" and stuff like that in your xfce4-power-manager?23:03
wxldon't have a battery23:04
wxlso the applet doesn't show anything23:05
bioterrorokay23:05
wxli do have hibernate in logout..23:06
bioterrorhmmm23:06
bioterrorI think I'm missing consolekit23:07
bioterrorthat was it ;)23:08

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