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sheyhi, can anyone comment on the stability if 12.04 at the moment? I'm planing to set up a small nfs file server and would like to skip directly to the lts10:48
bazhangshey, its alpha one10:49
bazhangso stability is not the key word here10:50
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sheybazhang: true, but ubuntu is also a big distro, so stability is really a question of what you are doing with it.10:51
BluesKajHowdy12:56
Gorilla_No_Bakaguys .. i have tried pangoling13:35
Gorilla_No_Bakapangolin the precise one13:35
Gorilla_No_Bakanow.. a stupid dialog box "an error occurred blahblah blah  do you wanna report it whatever" keeper on appearing13:35
Gorilla_No_Bakakeept on appearing everytime ..13:35
Gorilla_No_Baka any way to know what's wrong..? or at least to remove it>?13:36
BluesKajGorilla_No_Baka, the blah blah part is imporatnt to know if ppl can help you13:40
Gorilla_No_Bakathe important part was exactly saying.. "an error has occured" report it  cancel it13:43
Gorilla_No_Bakaand the report it / cancel it  were actually the buttons13:43
BluesKajGorilla_No_Baka, is a lib mentioned or ?13:44
Gorilla_No_Bakano lib or whatsoever..13:44
Gorilla_No_Bakato me it seemed more like a generic message13:45
BluesKajGorilla_No_Baka, pastebin, so we can have a look13:45
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Gorilla_No_Bakai should have taken a screen shot.. there was nothing to pastebin13:46
BluesKajso this is at boot13:47
Gorilla_No_Bakaother that the annoying message nothing.. fast.. fast install as well  5 minutes on my macbook pro's HD13:47
Gorilla_No_Bakanope it is noty at the boot13:47
Gorilla_No_Baka everything is fine..13:47
Gorilla_No_Bakait boots .. it installs .. it even works13:47
Gorilla_No_Bakait;s just the stupid  generic message "an error has occured" that keeps on repeating and popping up13:48
BluesKajGorilla_No_Baka, so the apps all run ok , desktop is ok etc?13:52
Gorilla_No_Bakayup no probs13:56
Gorilla_No_Bakaman this macirssi sucks balls.. if you dare to write more than one line (or the approved number of caracters  when you press enter nothing happens)13:57
Gorilla_No_Bakacrap13:57
Gorilla_No_Bakathe only problem i found was13:57
Gorilla_No_BakaBluesKaj:  the rtl 8187 driver13:59
Gorilla_No_Bakaon mac osx and windows they work nice.. high speed (over 15 MB/S) on linux only 100 KB/s14:00
Gorilla_No_Bakaif you guys could fix that that would be really lovely14:00
BluesKaji'm not very knowledgeable about wifi , there are so many variables that could be the problem14:06
BluesKajhow is ssh over your network , Gorilla_No_Baka , is it as fast as mac?14:07
Gorilla_No_Bakathanks anyway14:07
Gorilla_No_Bakayou mean using the rtl driver>?\14:07
BluesKajyes14:08
Gorilla_No_Bakanever even tried it..  :)14:10
Gorilla_No_Bakai mucked the install up by writing a small script to get rid of unity and the additional bloatwere14:10
Gorilla_No_Baka:)14:10
Gorilla_No_Bakahence me using the retard macirssi14:11
BluesKajok , wondered why not just irssi14:11
BluesKajI have a rt2870 driver module , that shows in NM as connected , but in reality it's not getting past the router14:11
Gorilla_No_Bakabecause i almost never use mac.. i have a small 40 GB partition where mac lies.. the rest is for linux.. now.. in order to install irssi on mac.. well you would have to compile it..14:12
Gorilla_No_BakaI could not been bovvered to do it.. for 1 hour i am gonna use it.. easier to download a precompiled dmg thing14:13
BluesKajok, new kernel version just installed , seems fine so far , except kde still has window size & position recall problems15:09
gnomefreaknow bzr-notify is crashing16:07
gnomefreakanyone else seeing crashes upon login? i get 2-3 every time mostly its unity-16:10
gnomefreak*16:10
* penguin42 got one today - but that was on an install last updated last week16:17
gnomefreakpenguin42: what crashed on install?16:35
penguin42gnomefreak: No, wasn't during install - was just when I booted the machine today16:35
gnomefreakah ok16:36
* gnomefreak smoke16:36
bjsnideryou should quit that crap16:39
gnomefreakyeah but i will die happy :)16:43
pangolinnon smokers, pff16:46
* penguin42 is just addicted to chocolate instead16:46
bjsnideryou'll die wondering why did i do that thing that i did16:52
pangolinor wishing you had done more16:52
pangolineither way, you lose.16:52
gnomefreak:X16:56
* gnomefreak forgetting something16:56
alex_mayorgaupgrading to alpha1 as I type this, any last minute horror stories I should know and click "Cancel"?20:28
penguin42alex_mayorga: Seen a few crash reports on Atoms20:29
alex_mayorgapenguin42: no Atom here, this http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10151&catalogId=10551&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666002706#specifications20:30
penguin42ooh very blue20:30
alex_mayorgaLooks more purple than blue really, but Sony seems to be color blind :-)20:31
BluesKajlooks blue on my plasma monitor , a slight tinge of red there20:33
DaekdroomIt's neither purple nor blue.20:42
BluesKajDaekdroom, and what colour would you call it20:50
BluesKaj?20:50
DaekdroomI have no idea.20:52
bjsniderthat's purple20:52
bjsniderblue with a bit of red20:53
DaekdroomIt's not purple. There's not enough red in it.20:53
DaekdroomBut there's too much red for blue.20:53
bjsniderbtw, BluesKaj, i read that panasonic plasmas have a flaw that makes the black levels decrease to to the point where even lcd blacks are blacker20:54
DaekdroomWhat about violet?20:54
bjsnideri think any red makes it a shade of purple20:54
BluesKajthe photo was probly enhanced with a red filter20:54
BluesKajnot this one , blacks are black , believe me20:55
BluesKajbjsnider, ^20:55
* penguin42 wonders if taking a picture of a Sony laptop with a Sony camera and displaying it on the Sony laptop looks like the laptop20:56
penguin42(or with the laptops webcam if it has one?)20:56
BluesKajI also have a an dell lcd 37" tv in our bedroom , the blacks are not black , very dark grey , but it's an older tv now so whoknows20:57
alex_mayorgaI'm past the "Cancel" button guys, but thanks on the helpful discussion about colors ;-)20:58
bjsniderthe blacks aren't black on my sony lcd20:58
DaekdroomThe only thing bothering me right now about precise is the on-screen accessibility keyboard on the locked screen asking for password.20:58
Daekdroomand the impossibility of installing wine on x64 too.20:59
bjsnideralex_mayorga, bugabundo bought one of those vaio laptops a few weeks ago and took it back because it didn't work well with ubuntu20:59
bjsniderhe's not here at the moment20:59
_calumI wish to help by testing 12.04. I'm using a VM. I experienced an installer crash, ubi-language exited with code 1, is this known?21:11
_calumhow do I report a crash?21:15
penguin42_calum: Run ubuntu-bug ubiquity21:16
penguin42_calum: ubiquity is the installer21:16
_calumhow do I do that?21:16
penguin42when it crashed what state did it leave you in?  Can you start a terminal?21:16
_calumI initialised the virtual machine from the iso. It got to the install screen then the message popped up and it froze when I pressed continue21:17
penguin42ok, is it repeatable?21:18
_calumit said if you continue the install may be broken or fail. I tried it twice21:19
_calumAm running off the livecd due to the install issue21:20
penguin42ok, when you put the CD in it gives you a choice of install or use, what happens if you tell it not to install, then it boots the desktop ?21:20
penguin42ok, and now if you start the installer from there?21:20
_calumyes it boots to the live desktop21:20
_calumI'll test that21:20
penguin42_calum: Then if it hangs, open a terminal, and in that terminal type ubuntu-bug ubiquity  - it'll be able to send the install logs to the bug report system (launchpad)21:21
_calumsame message, ubi language failed with code 1 check syslog etc21:22
_calumok21:22
_calumahh I don't have a launchpad account21:24
_calumdo I need one?21:24
htorquehello, everyone! do you have an idea how i would alter lightdm's dconf keys? i tried it using 'sudo -u lightdm gsettings set ...' but that failed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/773787/21:25
penguin42_calum: Yep, that way people can ask you for more details or tell you when it gets fixed21:25
_calumahh ok thanks, I'll create one21:25
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Bublik2002how is the stability of 12.04 alpha 1 compared to 11.10?22:23
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guntbertBublik2002: it is less per definition already - alpha vs release22:26
Bublik2002i have a dell e6410 laptop and for some reason a lot of the time it freezes when i try to wake it from suspend... yet it runs perfectly if i run fedora 16.... is it something to do with the updated kernel and do you think it would be better to update to 12.04 alpha 1?22:27
guntbert!crosspost | Bublik200222:27
ubottuBublik2002: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support.22:27
Bublik2002ok sorry.. thought it would be appropriate to ask in here as well because it concerns the new release22:28
guntbertBublik2002: I have the alpha running only on a VM, I wouldn't install it on a production system ever22:28
Bublik2002ok... why do you think my laptop freezes on wakeup? could it have something to do with the kernel... i was having a similar issue in mint 12 but works perfectly in fedora 1622:29
guntbertBublik2002: I don't know about fedora, but did you search the forums (or launchpad - bugtracker) for such issues? if it is a kernel problem it will certainly be mentioned somewhere22:31
Bublik2002because my dell e6410 is one of the certified laptops with ubuntu 11.10 32bit... could it be because i installed the 64bit version?22:31
Bublik2002guntbert i did a lot of searches and havent found any other posts on this issue22:31
bazhangit's just alpha one22:32
Bublik2002which is pretty odd because its a pretty popular laptop.... maybe i'm doing something wrong22:32
bazhangexpect *tons* of issues22:32
Bublik2002no this is with 11.1022:32
guntbertBublik2002: as I warn against running the current alpha I suggest you head back over to #ubuntu, maybe yu22:33
guntbertyou find help there22:33
bazhangBublik2002, you were asking 12.04 questions in the main channel, and 11.10 ones here?22:33
Bublik2002nobody was responding in the other channel :(22:34
bazhangBublik2002, thats no reason to crosspost, esp. in the devel channel22:34
Bublik2002ok sorry22:34
guntbertBublik2002: best you keep questions about  a released version well apart from those about a development version22:37
Bublik2002ok heres a development question.... are you planning to make a gnome shell version of 12.04? stock gnome-shell 3.2 instead of unity22:38
bazhangboth will be available22:38
DaekdroomBut Unity will be default.22:39
bazhangbut a seperate version? no22:39
Bublik2002will it come in the ubuntu package or is it something i will have to install separately?22:40
bazhangBublik2002, through the package manager, of course22:40
Bublik2002k thanks22:41
bazhangnp22:41
Bublik2002why did you guys decide to go from banshee to rythmbox?22:42
DaekdroomBublik2002, Banshee hasn't made the transition to GTK3 yet, and the opportunity to dish Mono22:44

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