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shey | hi, can anyone comment on the stability if 12.04 at the moment? I'm planing to set up a small nfs file server and would like to skip directly to the lts | 10:48 |
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bazhang | shey, its alpha one | 10:49 |
bazhang | so stability is not the key word here | 10:50 |
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shey | bazhang: true, but ubuntu is also a big distro, so stability is really a question of what you are doing with it. | 10:51 |
BluesKaj | Howdy | 12:56 |
Gorilla_No_Baka | guys .. i have tried pangoling | 13:35 |
Gorilla_No_Baka | pangolin the precise one | 13:35 |
Gorilla_No_Baka | now.. a stupid dialog box "an error occurred blahblah blah do you wanna report it whatever" keeper on appearing | 13:35 |
Gorilla_No_Baka | keept on appearing everytime .. | 13:35 |
Gorilla_No_Baka | any way to know what's wrong..? or at least to remove it>? | 13:36 |
BluesKaj | Gorilla_No_Baka, the blah blah part is imporatnt to know if ppl can help you | 13:40 |
Gorilla_No_Baka | the important part was exactly saying.. "an error has occured" report it cancel it | 13:43 |
Gorilla_No_Baka | and the report it / cancel it were actually the buttons | 13:43 |
BluesKaj | Gorilla_No_Baka, is a lib mentioned or ? | 13:44 |
Gorilla_No_Baka | no lib or whatsoever.. | 13:44 |
Gorilla_No_Baka | to me it seemed more like a generic message | 13:45 |
BluesKaj | Gorilla_No_Baka, pastebin, so we can have a look | 13:45 |
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Gorilla_No_Baka | i should have taken a screen shot.. there was nothing to pastebin | 13:46 |
BluesKaj | so this is at boot | 13:47 |
Gorilla_No_Baka | other that the annoying message nothing.. fast.. fast install as well 5 minutes on my macbook pro's HD | 13:47 |
Gorilla_No_Baka | nope it is noty at the boot | 13:47 |
Gorilla_No_Baka | everything is fine.. | 13:47 |
Gorilla_No_Baka | it boots .. it installs .. it even works | 13:47 |
Gorilla_No_Baka | it;s just the stupid generic message "an error has occured" that keeps on repeating and popping up | 13:48 |
BluesKaj | Gorilla_No_Baka, so the apps all run ok , desktop is ok etc? | 13:52 |
Gorilla_No_Baka | yup no probs | 13:56 |
Gorilla_No_Baka | man this macirssi sucks balls.. if you dare to write more than one line (or the approved number of caracters when you press enter nothing happens) | 13:57 |
Gorilla_No_Baka | crap | 13:57 |
Gorilla_No_Baka | the only problem i found was | 13:57 |
Gorilla_No_Baka | BluesKaj: the rtl 8187 driver | 13:59 |
Gorilla_No_Baka | on mac osx and windows they work nice.. high speed (over 15 MB/S) on linux only 100 KB/s | 14:00 |
Gorilla_No_Baka | if you guys could fix that that would be really lovely | 14:00 |
BluesKaj | i'm not very knowledgeable about wifi , there are so many variables that could be the problem | 14:06 |
BluesKaj | how is ssh over your network , Gorilla_No_Baka , is it as fast as mac? | 14:07 |
Gorilla_No_Baka | thanks anyway | 14:07 |
Gorilla_No_Baka | you mean using the rtl driver>?\ | 14:07 |
BluesKaj | yes | 14:08 |
Gorilla_No_Baka | never even tried it.. :) | 14:10 |
Gorilla_No_Baka | i mucked the install up by writing a small script to get rid of unity and the additional bloatwere | 14:10 |
Gorilla_No_Baka | :) | 14:10 |
Gorilla_No_Baka | hence me using the retard macirssi | 14:11 |
BluesKaj | ok , wondered why not just irssi | 14:11 |
BluesKaj | I have a rt2870 driver module , that shows in NM as connected , but in reality it's not getting past the router | 14:11 |
Gorilla_No_Baka | because i almost never use mac.. i have a small 40 GB partition where mac lies.. the rest is for linux.. now.. in order to install irssi on mac.. well you would have to compile it.. | 14:12 |
Gorilla_No_Baka | I could not been bovvered to do it.. for 1 hour i am gonna use it.. easier to download a precompiled dmg thing | 14:13 |
BluesKaj | ok, new kernel version just installed , seems fine so far , except kde still has window size & position recall problems | 15:09 |
gnomefreak | now bzr-notify is crashing | 16:07 |
gnomefreak | anyone else seeing crashes upon login? i get 2-3 every time mostly its unity- | 16:10 |
gnomefreak | * | 16:10 |
* penguin42 got one today - but that was on an install last updated last week | 16:17 | |
gnomefreak | penguin42: what crashed on install? | 16:35 |
penguin42 | gnomefreak: No, wasn't during install - was just when I booted the machine today | 16:35 |
gnomefreak | ah ok | 16:36 |
* gnomefreak smoke | 16:36 | |
bjsnider | you should quit that crap | 16:39 |
gnomefreak | yeah but i will die happy :) | 16:43 |
pangolin | non smokers, pff | 16:46 |
* penguin42 is just addicted to chocolate instead | 16:46 | |
bjsnider | you'll die wondering why did i do that thing that i did | 16:52 |
pangolin | or wishing you had done more | 16:52 |
pangolin | either way, you lose. | 16:52 |
gnomefreak | :X | 16:56 |
* gnomefreak forgetting something | 16:56 | |
alex_mayorga | upgrading to alpha1 as I type this, any last minute horror stories I should know and click "Cancel"? | 20:28 |
penguin42 | alex_mayorga: Seen a few crash reports on Atoms | 20:29 |
alex_mayorga | penguin42: no Atom here, this http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10151&catalogId=10551&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666002706#specifications | 20:30 |
penguin42 | ooh very blue | 20:30 |
alex_mayorga | Looks more purple than blue really, but Sony seems to be color blind :-) | 20:31 |
BluesKaj | looks blue on my plasma monitor , a slight tinge of red there | 20:33 |
Daekdroom | It's neither purple nor blue. | 20:42 |
BluesKaj | Daekdroom, and what colour would you call it | 20:50 |
BluesKaj | ? | 20:50 |
Daekdroom | I have no idea. | 20:52 |
bjsnider | that's purple | 20:52 |
bjsnider | blue with a bit of red | 20:53 |
Daekdroom | It's not purple. There's not enough red in it. | 20:53 |
Daekdroom | But there's too much red for blue. | 20:53 |
bjsnider | btw, BluesKaj, i read that panasonic plasmas have a flaw that makes the black levels decrease to to the point where even lcd blacks are blacker | 20:54 |
Daekdroom | What about violet? | 20:54 |
bjsnider | i think any red makes it a shade of purple | 20:54 |
BluesKaj | the photo was probly enhanced with a red filter | 20:54 |
BluesKaj | not this one , blacks are black , believe me | 20:55 |
BluesKaj | bjsnider, ^ | 20:55 |
* penguin42 wonders if taking a picture of a Sony laptop with a Sony camera and displaying it on the Sony laptop looks like the laptop | 20:56 | |
penguin42 | (or with the laptops webcam if it has one?) | 20:56 |
BluesKaj | I also have a an dell lcd 37" tv in our bedroom , the blacks are not black , very dark grey , but it's an older tv now so whoknows | 20:57 |
alex_mayorga | I'm past the "Cancel" button guys, but thanks on the helpful discussion about colors ;-) | 20:58 |
bjsnider | the blacks aren't black on my sony lcd | 20:58 |
Daekdroom | The only thing bothering me right now about precise is the on-screen accessibility keyboard on the locked screen asking for password. | 20:58 |
Daekdroom | and the impossibility of installing wine on x64 too. | 20:59 |
bjsnider | alex_mayorga, bugabundo bought one of those vaio laptops a few weeks ago and took it back because it didn't work well with ubuntu | 20:59 |
bjsnider | he's not here at the moment | 20:59 |
_calum | I wish to help by testing 12.04. I'm using a VM. I experienced an installer crash, ubi-language exited with code 1, is this known? | 21:11 |
_calum | how do I report a crash? | 21:15 |
penguin42 | _calum: Run ubuntu-bug ubiquity | 21:16 |
penguin42 | _calum: ubiquity is the installer | 21:16 |
_calum | how do I do that? | 21:16 |
penguin42 | when it crashed what state did it leave you in? Can you start a terminal? | 21:16 |
_calum | I initialised the virtual machine from the iso. It got to the install screen then the message popped up and it froze when I pressed continue | 21:17 |
penguin42 | ok, is it repeatable? | 21:18 |
_calum | it said if you continue the install may be broken or fail. I tried it twice | 21:19 |
_calum | Am running off the livecd due to the install issue | 21:20 |
penguin42 | ok, when you put the CD in it gives you a choice of install or use, what happens if you tell it not to install, then it boots the desktop ? | 21:20 |
penguin42 | ok, and now if you start the installer from there? | 21:20 |
_calum | yes it boots to the live desktop | 21:20 |
_calum | I'll test that | 21:20 |
penguin42 | _calum: Then if it hangs, open a terminal, and in that terminal type ubuntu-bug ubiquity - it'll be able to send the install logs to the bug report system (launchpad) | 21:21 |
_calum | same message, ubi language failed with code 1 check syslog etc | 21:22 |
_calum | ok | 21:22 |
_calum | ahh I don't have a launchpad account | 21:24 |
_calum | do I need one? | 21:24 |
htorque | hello, everyone! do you have an idea how i would alter lightdm's dconf keys? i tried it using 'sudo -u lightdm gsettings set ...' but that failed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/773787/ | 21:25 |
penguin42 | _calum: Yep, that way people can ask you for more details or tell you when it gets fixed | 21:25 |
_calum | ahh ok thanks, I'll create one | 21:25 |
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Bublik2002 | how is the stability of 12.04 alpha 1 compared to 11.10? | 22:23 |
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guntbert | Bublik2002: it is less per definition already - alpha vs release | 22:26 |
Bublik2002 | i have a dell e6410 laptop and for some reason a lot of the time it freezes when i try to wake it from suspend... yet it runs perfectly if i run fedora 16.... is it something to do with the updated kernel and do you think it would be better to update to 12.04 alpha 1? | 22:27 |
guntbert | !crosspost | Bublik2002 | 22:27 |
ubottu | Bublik2002: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support. | 22:27 |
Bublik2002 | ok sorry.. thought it would be appropriate to ask in here as well because it concerns the new release | 22:28 |
guntbert | Bublik2002: I have the alpha running only on a VM, I wouldn't install it on a production system ever | 22:28 |
Bublik2002 | ok... why do you think my laptop freezes on wakeup? could it have something to do with the kernel... i was having a similar issue in mint 12 but works perfectly in fedora 16 | 22:29 |
guntbert | Bublik2002: I don't know about fedora, but did you search the forums (or launchpad - bugtracker) for such issues? if it is a kernel problem it will certainly be mentioned somewhere | 22:31 |
Bublik2002 | because my dell e6410 is one of the certified laptops with ubuntu 11.10 32bit... could it be because i installed the 64bit version? | 22:31 |
Bublik2002 | guntbert i did a lot of searches and havent found any other posts on this issue | 22:31 |
bazhang | it's just alpha one | 22:32 |
Bublik2002 | which is pretty odd because its a pretty popular laptop.... maybe i'm doing something wrong | 22:32 |
bazhang | expect *tons* of issues | 22:32 |
Bublik2002 | no this is with 11.10 | 22:32 |
guntbert | Bublik2002: as I warn against running the current alpha I suggest you head back over to #ubuntu, maybe yu | 22:33 |
guntbert | you find help there | 22:33 |
bazhang | Bublik2002, you were asking 12.04 questions in the main channel, and 11.10 ones here? | 22:33 |
Bublik2002 | nobody was responding in the other channel :( | 22:34 |
bazhang | Bublik2002, thats no reason to crosspost, esp. in the devel channel | 22:34 |
Bublik2002 | ok sorry | 22:34 |
guntbert | Bublik2002: best you keep questions about a released version well apart from those about a development version | 22:37 |
Bublik2002 | ok heres a development question.... are you planning to make a gnome shell version of 12.04? stock gnome-shell 3.2 instead of unity | 22:38 |
bazhang | both will be available | 22:38 |
Daekdroom | But Unity will be default. | 22:39 |
bazhang | but a seperate version? no | 22:39 |
Bublik2002 | will it come in the ubuntu package or is it something i will have to install separately? | 22:40 |
bazhang | Bublik2002, through the package manager, of course | 22:40 |
Bublik2002 | k thanks | 22:41 |
bazhang | np | 22:41 |
Bublik2002 | why did you guys decide to go from banshee to rythmbox? | 22:42 |
Daekdroom | Bublik2002, Banshee hasn't made the transition to GTK3 yet, and the opportunity to dish Mono | 22:44 |
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