[03:10] <gateSmalls> 	hello i need help getting a mac book pro 15.5 in laptop to boot to an ex tunnel drive (1tb) with ubuntu server 11.10 64bit using eather a usb or a firewire port
[03:12] <gateSmalls> >.>
[03:12] <gateSmalls> <.<
[03:16] <seidos> gateSmalls: oh!  you're here already
[03:16] <gateSmalls> yep
[03:17] <seidos> gateSmalls: someone asked earlier about getting ubuntu installed on a macbook pro
[03:17] <gateSmalls> realy
[03:17] <seidos> after some chatting it seemed bootcamp was the focal point of the solution
[03:17] <gateSmalls> realy
[03:17] <gateSmalls> never used boot camp
[03:18] <seidos> me neither
[03:18] <seidos> i had a macbook pro once though
[03:18] <seidos> and i read the wikipedia article on it
[03:19] <seidos> !mac | gateSmalls
[03:19] <gateSmalls> i have boot camp assistant will that work ?
[03:19] <ubot2> gateSmalls: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages
[03:19] <seidos> there's also this factoid, i haven't read it though
[03:19]  * seidos clicks
[03:19] <seidos> cool logo
[03:21] <seidos> gateSmalls: i think they are the same thing
[03:22] <seidos> gateSmalls: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boot_Camp_(software)
[03:24] <seidos> hope it helps
[03:30] <gateSmalls> not realy helping it tells me for the desktop vs not the server one
[03:31] <gateSmalls> as for the boot_camp its not as sown
[03:34] <seidos> i'm not familiar with sown
[03:35] <seidos> since i don't have the hardware, and have never done it, all i can do is search the web and have an open ear, sorry i can't be more help gateSmalls
[03:36] <seidos> you could also try the forums and check with your LoCo as well
[05:05] <Ford_P> Having problems with my Ethernet card... Anyone know anything about that?
[05:07] <holstein> Ford_P: potentially... just ask, and if someone knows they will answer
[05:07] <Ford_P> additional question.. On the computer with no internet access I need to install Build-Essential and I'm not able to do that because it requires 8 package upgrades. How can I make the needed upgrades?
[05:08] <Ford_P> while not having access to the web
[05:09] <Ford_P> Laptop is a Asus K53E and it's a Atheros AR8151 card. I need to load the driver.
[05:10] <holstein> Ford_P: you can download the .debs and move them over
[05:10] <Ford_P> I've been following the instructions here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1677122 till I got stuck
[05:10] <Ford_P> Oh maybe I should just do that then......
[05:10] <Ford_P> how do I know that I've met all the dependencies?
[05:11] <Ford_P> where can I get the .deb files?
[05:11] <holstein> Ford_P: it should let you know if you havent
[05:11] <holstein> you can only get deb files if they are availalbe
[05:11] <Ford_P> ok
[05:12] <holstein> you can just search for them
[05:12] <holstein> http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[05:12] <Ford_P> For example it's asking for ver. 4-3-3 gtk
[05:12] <Ford_P> ok cool I'll try that
[05:13] <Ford_P> Thanks
[05:13] <holstein> Ford_P: you cant wire it up temporarily?
[05:14] <Ford_P> nope
[05:14] <JackyAlcine> How do you add another location for libraries to be loaded by an application?
[05:14] <Ford_P> I ran lshw -C network
[05:14] <Ford_P> *-network UNCLAIMED
[05:15] <Ford_P> for both wired and wifi
[05:15] <JackyAlcine> I know that adding PATH="$PATH:~/usr/bin" would add my local ~/usr/bin to run apps, but libraries don't work for that...
[05:15] <holstein> Ford_P: wired should just work
[05:16] <Ford_P> I could try it again.
[05:16] <Ford_P> so basically there is an auto detect feature??
[05:16] <holstein> JackyAlcine: wish i could help...
[05:16] <holstein> Ford_P: depends on your network
[05:17] <Ford_P> if a wired connection works then that's half the battle right there
[05:17] <holstein> i have DHCP... when i plug it into my router, it just works
[05:17] <holstein> then, i can apply upates, and try wifi again, and fiddle from there if needed
[05:17] <JackyAlcine> Ford_P: do you have Synaptic on your system? If so, find the packages you want to install and then in the file menu, click "Generate download package script".
[05:18] <holstein> JackyAlcine: i forget about that!
[05:18] <holstein> thats pretty slick
[05:18] <JackyAlcine> You can copy that to a usb stick, invoke it on another system (or manually open and download with Notepad) and wham-o.
[05:18] <JackyAlcine> holstein: :P
[05:18] <Ford_P> Yes it's on my system. I tried that and it's saying i need to install 8 packages
[05:18] <holstein> Ford_P: personally, i would try 10.04 live as well.. and go with that if it works out-of-the-box
[05:19]  * holstein gotta run...
[05:19] <Ford_P> thanks
[05:20] <JackyAlcine> Ford_P: did you add those packages to Synaptic or wanted to manually installed them by double-clicking?
[05:20] <JackyAlcine> If you add them to Synaptic, it'd tell you what else you need and you could repeat the process until the dependencies are resolved.
[05:20] <Ford_P> so I'm looking at it now using Synaptic
[05:21] <Ford_P> otherwise I was going to download each package manually
[05:21] <Ford_P> http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/
[05:22] <JackyAlcine> Hmm. Did you generate the script?
[05:23] <JackyAlcine> After selecting the packages, click the File menu then click "Generate package download Script"
[05:23] <Ford_P> ohh sorry no network access
[05:23] <Ford_P> can't download
[05:23] <Ford_P> well I'm using a 2nd computer which I will manually download each package
[05:24] <Ford_P> or
[05:24] <Ford_P> the 2nd computer I'm using the newer version.
[05:24] <Ford_P> 11.xx
[05:25] <JackyAlcine> No problem, just generate the script _then_ copy it to the other computer.
[05:25] <Ford_P> the other computer is 10.04. Also one computer is 32bit and the other is 64 bit. Would that be a problem?
[05:25] <JackyAlcine> No, because the architecture (32-bit, 64-bit) would be hard-written into the download path.
[05:25] <Ford_P> sorry.. by generate script what are you referring to.
[05:26] <Ford_P> in the terminal?
[05:26] <Ford_P> just want to make sure I understand
[05:27] <JackyAlcine> In Synaptic.
[05:27] <JackyAlcine> After you've selected the package "build-ess", it should tell you it needs a few more.
[05:27] <JackyAlcine> click ok and then when you're satisified, click "File" then "Generate Package download script"
[05:28] <Ford_P> so the computer I'm using already has it installed. So I'm assuming I can copy the packages to a usb drive and install them on the computer that needs them??
[05:30] <JackyAlcine> Yup.
[05:30] <JackyAlcine> The thing is, after you've downloaded them, make sure that they're in their own folder.
[05:31] <Ford_P> each package in it's own folder.
[05:31] <Ford_P> ok
[05:32] <JackyAlcine> No! lol, all of the packages in one folder.
[05:32] <Ford_P> ahh gotcha
[05:33] <JackyAlcine> :D Tell me when you've made the script.
[05:35] <Ford_P> so I ran the "Generate package download script"
[05:36] <JackyAlcine> the 2nd computer?
[05:36] <JackyAlcine> on the 2nd computer?
[05:36] <Ford_P> on the computer that needs the packages
[05:36] <JackyAlcine> You should have seen a bunch of download actions by wget.
[05:37] <Ford_P> I have a file in the folder called build-essential
[05:39] <JackyAlcine> Wait, so you've generated the script via Synaptic?
[05:39] <Ford_P> let me review.
[05:39] <Ford_P> to keep things organized
[05:39] <Ford_P> I'll call computer 1 the computer that needs packages
[05:40] <Ford_P> computer 2 providing packages
[05:40] <Ford_P> so I created the script on computer 2 and saved it to a usb drive
[05:41] <Ford_P> is this correct?
[05:43] <Ford_P> so we should be ready to go then
[05:44] <JackyAlcine> YEah
[05:44] <JackyAlcine> *yeah
[05:44] <JackyAlcine> sorry went to the bathroom.
[05:44] <Ford_P> run in terminal?
[05:44] <Ford_P> np
[05:48] <Ford_P> so I'm guessing I need to move the file from the usb drive to a folder on computer 2.
[05:48] <Ford_P> sorry computer 1
[05:48] <Ford_P> and run
[05:50] <JackyAlcine> Yeah
[05:50] <JackyAlcine> Well, it'd be easier if you could run in while having it still on the drive.
[05:51] <JackyAlcine> So you wouldn't have to copy anything.
[05:52] <Ford_P> so I clicked Run
[05:52] <Ford_P> what do I do then?
[05:55] <JackyAlcine> clicked run? the script's something you'd have to run in a terminal.
[05:55] <JackyAlcine> You mean from a context menu?
[05:55] <Ford_P> when I click on the file it asks how to run it
[05:56] <Ford_P> so I clicked Run
[05:57] <JackyAlcine> Hmm, check your home directory ("~/"), the packages may have been downloaded there since you didn't use a terminal.
[05:58] <Ford_P> I checked the file and it only had #!/bin/sh and nothing else
[06:00] <JackyAlcine> O.o
[06:01] <JackyAlcine> You have Synaptic opened on computer 2? or computer 1
[06:02] <Ford_P> yeah on both
[06:04] <JackyAlcine> Only need it on computer 1.
[06:04] <Ford_P> yep
[06:05] <Ford_P> wonder if I can get it on the packages site
[06:06] <JackyAlcine> You can, but Synaptic would pull in all of the dependencies.
[06:07] <Ford_P> that's one of the problems with all the dependencies. It's a huge web of dependencies you have to track down.
[06:07] <Ford_P> take forever
[06:10] <Ford_P> thanks for the help. I'll keep picking away at this.
[07:05] <zkriesse> hello anybody :P
[07:10] <OutOfControl> Hi zkriesse
[07:10] <zkriesse> allo!
[07:11] <zkriesse> how thee be OutOfControl ?
[07:12] <OutOfControl> Yeah
[07:13] <zkriesse> Uhm, that was akin to a: "How are you?"
[07:14] <zkriesse> allo sattu941 !
[07:14] <sattu941> zkriesse: Hi! :D
[07:14] <zkriesse> How thee be sattu941 ?
[07:15] <sattu941> zkriesse: I be fine, how thy bee ?
[07:15] <zkriesse> Lol, you messed up just a tinge there...
[07:15]  * sattu941 sucks at whatever he is doing now.
[07:15] <zkriesse> It's Old English and no, you did not suck, you just need some practice!
[07:15] <sattu941> zkriesse: Yes, maybe I do.
[07:16] <zkriesse> :P
[07:16] <hobgoblin> no in this channel though
[07:16] <hobgoblin> *not
[07:17] <sattu941> hm.
[07:17] <sattu941> We need more beginners here.
[07:17] <zkriesse> hobgoblin: Well apparently the #ubuntu-beginners-team channel is only for the bt team now...
[07:17] <hobgoblin> no it's not
[07:17] <zkriesse> According to bodhi_zazen anyway
[07:17] <sattu941> bt team ?
[07:17] <zkriesse> sattu941: This channel and other #ubuntu-beginners- channels are under the Ubuntu Beginners Team :)
[07:18] <sattu941> oh.
[07:18] <hobgoblin> well it is for the beginners team but the BT is not as it was - regardless this is not a channel for chit-chat
[07:18] <zkriesse> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam
[07:19] <zkriesse> wb zeroseven0183
[07:19] <zeroseven0183> :-)
[07:20] <sattu941> Anyway I set up ssh with key based authentication yesterday, and also set up free DDNS with no-ip.org, I'm pretty happy about it :).
[07:20] <zkriesse> rad
[07:21] <sattu941> try ssh <user>@grubblyplank.no-ip.org -p 24
[07:21] <zkriesse> no thanks :P
[07:22] <sattu941> :P
[07:22] <sattu941> Will probably write a review for the noip2 package in Software Center soon.
[07:24] <zkriesse> Ah... the fun-ness of tech review/writing
[14:43] <ameer_ahmad> Hi.,