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jtaylorhow does one disable the hardening flags in debian/rules?16:19
jtaylorjust for testing something16:19
jtaylor DEB_BUILD_HARDENING=0 does not work :/16:20
jtaylorah forgot to export16:21
tumbleweedof course with dpkg-buildflags, that's DEB_BUILD_MAINT_OPTIONS=hardening=-all16:22
jtaylorI'm just looking at building python-magick in precise but hardening appears to overwrite CFLAGS in an m4 macro causing missing -I16:25
tumbleweedah, I don't know much about the internals of hardening-wrapper16:26
jtaylorwtf 657 universe ftbs :O all from armhf I guess?16:44
tumbleweedyeah, there are still a bunch of depwaits in armhf16:46
tumbleweedhttp://people.ubuntuwire.org/~stefanor/lp-ftbfs-report/historical/primary-precise.html16:47
tumbleweedand of course, armel shows every package that would ftbfs if rebulit...16:48
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yumboIs this the right place to ask the reason why a certain program isn't included in the repo's?23:16
jtayloryumbo: which program?23:20
yumboPeazip23:20
jtaylorthere was a rfp: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=49937623:22
ubottuDebian bug 499376 in wnpp "RFP: peazip -- file and archive manager" [Wishlist,Open]23:22
jtaylorbut looks like it died, possibly due to issues with the language it is implemented in23:23
yumboI installed the .deb on my Ubuntu installation here and have no issues whatsoever23:24
yumboI really think it would be a great program to have in the repo's, as there are no archive manager alternatives at the moment that have so many options23:26
yumboIs there a way to ask for a reconsideration?23:28
jtaylorwell you have to get lucky and find someone who wants to do the work involved23:29
jtaylorgiven the unusal language that will be difficult23:29
jtayloryou could of course opt to maintain it yourself23:29
yumboconsidering the fact that the author already has deb-packages available, would the work involved be a lot?23:30
jtaylorI think yes23:30
jtaylorfrom that bug it seems the deb upstream distributes are compiled on suse and them converted23:31
jtaylorthat is not allowed for debian packages23:31
jtaylorofficial ones23:31
jtaylorthey must be compiled from source with tools available in debian23:31
jtaylorof course the bug is 2 years old, maybe its easier now23:32
yumbofrom the peazip website: "If PeaZip is missing in your distribution's repositories please take time to recommend it to distribution's maintainers, pointing them to this website for evaluating possible advantages in featuring PeaZip i.e. the Portable version, or the desktop neutrality, sources that can easily target either GTK2 or Qt widgetset, or its GUI etc..."23:32
yumboIs Lazarus/FPC available in debian?23:33
jtayloryes23:33
yumbothe site states that that's all what's needed to compile from source.23:34
jtaylorbest changes to find someone to package it would be the debian lazarus/fpc team if that exists23:34
yumboWhere could I contact them,=?23:35
jtaylorhm apparently there is no such team :/23:36
jtaylorand only 8 packages using it23:37
yumboCould you give me a list of those packages or who is maintaining them?23:38
showardhey all, does auto-sync of new packages occur during LTS? Asking because there are packages listed at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+missingpackages that have never been synced into ubuntu (for ~2 months)23:42
showard~during LTS development cycles~23:42
jtayloryumbo: I had my regex wrong, only two packages23:44
jtaylorwinff and easymp3gain23:44
jtaylorshoward: probably those packages are not in wheezy/testing23:45
jtaylorduring lts ubuntu syncs from testing instead of unstable23:45
showardThey are in wheezy "Packages in parent series 'Wheezy' but not in 'Precise'" - I was specifically interested in triplea, in wheezy for 3 weeks23:46
jtaylorhm no idea why thats not in precise23:48
jtaylorits not blacklisted23:48
showardthere are 519 other packages like it, so I was wondering if it's a bug or intentional23:48
jtaylorI just picked a few from there, all where removed from unstable23:49
jtaylormaybe the site was not updated in a while23:49
yumbofor "easymp3gain" the maintainer is "Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com>"23:50
showardah, ok - so they make sense. I can wait until after import-freeze, and if hasn't synced by then I'll just request sync23:50
yumboHow do I contact them?23:50
yumbojtaylor, do I just send an email to ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com ?23:52
jtayloryumbo: mathias klumpp maintains that, but don't get your hopes to high that he will also do peazip just because he maintains a fpc package23:52
jtaylorhttp://packages.qa.debian.org/e/easymp3gain.html23:53
jtaylorthe best way to get it done is to maintain it yourself23:54
yumbodon't have time for that23:54
jtaylorthats understandable, but don't expect others to do work for you, we are all volunteers23:55
yumboI thought I could maybe send Matthias Klumpp an email, asking if he could take a look at it23:56
yumboyou happen to know where I can find his mail?23:59

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