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[16:19] <jtaylor> how does one disable the hardening flags in debian/rules?
[16:19] <jtaylor> just for testing something
[16:20] <jtaylor>  DEB_BUILD_HARDENING=0 does not work :/
[16:21] <jtaylor> ah forgot to export
[16:22] <tumbleweed> of course with dpkg-buildflags, that's DEB_BUILD_MAINT_OPTIONS=hardening=-all
[16:25] <jtaylor> I'm just looking at building python-magick in precise but hardening appears to overwrite CFLAGS in an m4 macro causing missing -I
[16:26] <tumbleweed> ah, I don't know much about the internals of hardening-wrapper
[16:44] <jtaylor> wtf 657 universe ftbs :O all from armhf I guess?
[16:46] <tumbleweed> yeah, there are still a bunch of depwaits in armhf
[16:47] <tumbleweed> http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~stefanor/lp-ftbfs-report/historical/primary-precise.html
[16:48] <tumbleweed> and of course, armel shows every package that would ftbfs if rebulit...
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[23:16] <yumbo> Is this the right place to ask the reason why a certain program isn't included in the repo's?
[23:20] <jtaylor> yumbo: which program?
[23:20] <yumbo> Peazip
[23:22] <jtaylor> there was a rfp: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=499376
[23:22] <ubottu> Debian bug 499376 in wnpp "RFP: peazip -- file and archive manager" [Wishlist,Open]
[23:23] <jtaylor> but looks like it died, possibly due to issues with the language it is implemented in
[23:24] <yumbo> I installed the .deb on my Ubuntu installation here and have no issues whatsoever
[23:26] <yumbo> I really think it would be a great program to have in the repo's, as there are no archive manager alternatives at the moment that have so many options
[23:28] <yumbo> Is there a way to ask for a reconsideration?
[23:29] <jtaylor> well you have to get lucky and find someone who wants to do the work involved
[23:29] <jtaylor> given the unusal language that will be difficult
[23:29] <jtaylor> you could of course opt to maintain it yourself
[23:30] <yumbo> considering the fact that the author already has deb-packages available, would the work involved be a lot?
[23:30] <jtaylor> I think yes
[23:31] <jtaylor> from that bug it seems the deb upstream distributes are compiled on suse and them converted
[23:31] <jtaylor> that is not allowed for debian packages
[23:31] <jtaylor> official ones
[23:31] <jtaylor> they must be compiled from source with tools available in debian
[23:32] <jtaylor> of course the bug is 2 years old, maybe its easier now
[23:32] <yumbo> from the peazip website: "If PeaZip is missing in your distribution's repositories please take time to recommend it to distribution's maintainers, pointing them to this website for evaluating possible advantages in featuring PeaZip i.e. the Portable version, or the desktop neutrality, sources that can easily target either GTK2 or Qt widgetset, or its GUI etc..."
[23:33] <yumbo> Is Lazarus/FPC available in debian?
[23:33] <jtaylor> yes
[23:34] <yumbo> the site states that that's all what's needed to compile from source.
[23:34] <jtaylor> best changes to find someone to package it would be the debian lazarus/fpc team if that exists
[23:35] <yumbo> Where could I contact them,=?
[23:36] <jtaylor> hm apparently there is no such team :/
[23:37] <jtaylor> and only 8 packages using it
[23:38] <yumbo> Could you give me a list of those packages or who is maintaining them?
[23:42] <showard> hey all, does auto-sync of new packages occur during LTS? Asking because there are packages listed at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+missingpackages that have never been synced into ubuntu (for ~2 months)
[23:42] <showard> ~during LTS development cycles~
[23:44] <jtaylor> yumbo: I had my regex wrong, only two packages
[23:44] <jtaylor> winff and easymp3gain
[23:45] <jtaylor> showard: probably those packages are not in wheezy/testing
[23:45] <jtaylor> during lts ubuntu syncs from testing instead of unstable
[23:46] <showard> They are in wheezy "Packages in parent series 'Wheezy' but not in 'Precise'" - I was specifically interested in triplea, in wheezy for 3 weeks
[23:48] <jtaylor> hm no idea why thats not in precise
[23:48] <jtaylor> its not blacklisted
[23:48] <showard> there are 519 other packages like it, so I was wondering if it's a bug or intentional
[23:49] <jtaylor> I just picked a few from there, all where removed from unstable
[23:49] <jtaylor> maybe the site was not updated in a while
[23:50] <yumbo> for "easymp3gain" the maintainer is "Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com>"
[23:50] <showard> ah, ok - so they make sense. I can wait until after import-freeze, and if hasn't synced by then I'll just request sync
[23:50] <yumbo> How do I contact them?
[23:52] <yumbo> jtaylor, do I just send an email to ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com ?
[23:52] <jtaylor> yumbo: mathias klumpp maintains that, but don't get your hopes to high that he will also do peazip just because he maintains a fpc package
[23:53] <jtaylor> http://packages.qa.debian.org/e/easymp3gain.html
[23:54] <jtaylor> the best way to get it done is to maintain it yourself
[23:54] <yumbo> don't have time for that
[23:55] <jtaylor> thats understandable, but don't expect others to do work for you, we are all volunteers
[23:56] <yumbo> I thought I could maybe send Matthias Klumpp an email, asking if he could take a look at it
[23:59] <yumbo> you happen to know where I can find his mail?