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BarkingFishRiddell: just to let you know, I'm still unable to update the 4.7.4 testing table in the wiki, so I'll have another shot tomorrow at some point - i figure something must be pretty wrong right now.00:50
Sputapachelogger: it has started to grow that a while ago03:43
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bulldog98_Riddell: jovie needs to replace kmouth 4:4.7.3-0ubuntu1, because /usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/actions/female.png is in both packages13:54
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Riddellbulldog98: well spotted13:54
KRFi'm trying to debug a quite low-level issue wrt Qt libraries. in kubuntu 11.04 Qt libraries seem to be built without -Bsymbolic-function whereas in 11.10 they are. so my question is: what's causing the different behavior between those two versions? global ld flags, package ld flags?16:40
KRFi don't seem to find a hint16:41
RiddellKRF: I'm afraid I don't know, see if 11.04 package built on 11.10 has it17:08
Riddellelse it's something in the packaging17:09
KRFRiddell: i think i found it: possibly the behavior was changed due to that patch in debian/17:17
KRF  72   [ Felix Geyer ]17:17
KRF  73   * Use DEB_*_MAINT_APPEND instead of setting CXXFLAGS and LDFLAGS.17:17
KRFi am comparing https://launchpadlibrarian.net/81532169/buildlog_ubuntu-oneiric-amd64.qt4-x11_4%3A4.7.4-0ubuntu8_BUILDING.txt.gz and  https://launchpadlibrarian.net/79473336/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-amd64.qt4-x11_4%3A4.7.2-0ubuntu6.3_BUILDING.txt.gz17:18
KRFthe latter uses -Bsymbolic-functions17:18
Riddellthat's in 12.0417:19
KRFRiddell: the issues is, with -Bsymbolic-functions all functions are bound to the library's implementation. Qt, however, specifices dynamic-list files. Ubuntu doesn't seem to use them. the real issue is that you're not passing  -reduce-relocations to Qt's configure which enables passing --dynamic-list options to the linker flag.18:15
KRF(assuming you know about all this internal stuff) ;)18:16
KRFworth a bug report?18:16
KRFit basically breaks preloading in certain scenarious18:16
RiddellKRF: sure file a bug report18:29
RiddellI'll get to it next year sometime :)18:30
KRFRiddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+bug/906014 - thanks18:55
ubottuUbuntu bug 906014 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "Qt built with -Bsymbolic-functions, not using -reduce-relocations from configure" [Undecided,New]18:55
KRFno version specified since this is broken for multiple releases18:55
ScottKfabo: ^^^ ?19:01
yofelRiddell: another overwrite:19:59
yofeldpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kmag_4%3a4.7.90-0ubuntu1~ppa1_amd64.deb (--unpack):19:59
yofel trying to overwrite '/usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/actions/window.png', which is also in package kmousetool 4:4.7.3-0ubuntu119:59
Riddellack20:10
yofelhm, I have 0 activities after update20:18
yofelRiddell: plasma-desktop should depend on kactivities20:20
yofelo.O20:27
yofelhttp://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/pics/devn.png20:27
Riddellyofel: doesn't it do that with shlibs?20:57
Riddellmm, something broke there20:58
yofelnope20:58
yofeleven funnier, I installed kactivities - but I don't have libkactivities6 installed o.O20:58
Riddellyofel: oh that's the .so wrongly in the -data package, it's on my todo20:58
yofelah, ok then ^^20:59
Riddellyofel: kactivities as a package is obsolete, it's called libkactivities-bin now20:59
yofeldoesn't exist21:00
yofeland according to dpkg 'kactivities' contains kactivitymanagerd and the plugins21:00
Riddellhmm, guess that's on the todo as well then21:04
Riddellyofel: hmm maybe this is troublesome debian/patches/plasma_desktop_shell_drop_kactivities.diff21:46
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yofelyeah, probably that22:09
DarkwingI think we should talk about what translations to include on a % bases as outlined in bug #90435122:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 904351 in kubuntu-docs (Ubuntu Precise) "kubuntu-docs contains many incomplete translations" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90435122:19
Riddellhmm, 22:21
RiddellI can't think of a good answer right now22:21
DarkwingNo, I can't either but, I could see the frustration of it.22:22
Riddellask on the ubuntu-translators list?22:25
DarkwingYeah, I'll do that.22:27
DarkwingHave a couple of job interviews in Las Vegas :D22:27

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