[00:06] <MrChrisDruif> popey; how's your microserver? Do you still like it?
[12:55] <MrChrisDruif> Aloha everyone
[14:03] <popey> MrChrisDruif: yes, my microserver is on all day, doing backups etc
[14:03] <MrChrisDruif> Awesome, I'm looking at it's successor, the N40L
[14:04] <popey> not seen the inside of that one, guess it's much the same?
[14:04] <popey> slightly faster CPU?
[14:04] <MrChrisDruif> Yup
[14:05] <popey> not sure I'd see much benefit, mine is mostly IOWAIT
[14:06] <MrChrisDruif> Also slightly larger default HDD
[14:06] <MrChrisDruif> http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06b/15351-15351-4237916-4237918-4237917-4248009-5153252-5153253.html
[14:07] <MrChrisDruif> And when they are similarly prices, I don't see a reason to take the newer one =)
[14:07] <popey>  DD not listed there...
[14:07] <MrChrisDruif> DD?
[14:07] <popey> HDD sorry
[14:07] <popey> mine has a 160, not that it's used, its the root disk, all the data is on 4x2TB disks
[14:07] <MrChrisDruif> In it's name it is luckily =)
[14:07] <popey> ahhh
[14:08] <popey> md0 : active raid10 sdc1[1] sdb1[2] sde1[0] sdd1[3] 3907023872 blocks 64K chunks 2 near-copies [4/4] [UUUU]
[14:08] <popey> \o/
[14:09] <popey> /dev/mapper/data-data  2.9T  2.5T  250G  92% /srv
[14:09] <popey> running low
[14:09] <MrChrisDruif> Idling at 45W right?
[14:09] <MrChrisDruif> And it has support for WOL I've read?
[14:12] <MrChrisDruif> Ow, and twice the RAM of previous model
[14:13] <popey> i upped mine to 8GB
[14:13] <MrChrisDruif> Wow
[14:13] <popey> dunno about WOL, mine is always on
[14:13] <MrChrisDruif> In the blog-post about it it was mentioned in the comments ^_^
[14:14] <MrChrisDruif> s/the/your
[14:15] <popey> cool
[14:15]  * popey checks his server on landscape.. see what it's been doing
[14:18] <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/hp/load.png http://popey.com/~alan/hp/memory.png http://popey.com/~alan/hp/network.png busy busy busy!
[14:19] <MrChrisDruif> Wednesday was busy on the network =P
[14:20] <popey> yeah, i left a DVD in my desktop that day, and rsnapshot tried to back it up ☺
[14:21] <MrChrisDruif> Haha
[14:22] <MrChrisDruif> 40% RAM...of 8GB? What kind of software are you running? =P
[14:28] <popey> it's mostly just running rsync every 6 hours to backup lots of remote hosts
[14:28] <popey> also runs get_iplayer to download lots of BBC telly
[14:29] <popey> oh, and it runs yacy sometimes
[14:29] <MrChrisDruif> yacy?
[14:30] <popey> ya! yacy!
[14:30] <popey> http://popey.mooo.com:8090/
[14:30] <MrChrisDruif> Ahh, P2P web search...is it any good?
[14:33] <MrChrisDruif> And is using DejaDup a good option for backups compared to rsync?
[14:39] <popey> i dont use dejadup on servers
[14:39] <popey> i use rsnapshot
[14:41] <MrChrisDruif> !rsync
[14:41] <ubot2> rsync is a fast remote file copy and synchronization program - For more see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync
[14:41] <MrChrisDruif> !rsnapshot
[14:41] <ubot2> Factoid 'rsnapshot' not found
[14:55] <popey> rsnapshot wraps up rsync and makes it all a bit easier
[14:56] <MrChrisDruif> Alright
[15:04] <AlanBell> http://developers.slashdot.org/story/11/12/18/1425230/canonical-to-remove-sun-java-from-repositories-users-machines
[15:05] <MrChrisDruif> Yikes, I've got to hurry for my dinner!
[15:05] <MrChrisDruif> AlanBell; https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2011-December/001528.html
[15:06] <czajkowski> aloha
[15:06] <MrChrisDruif> Aloha czajkowski
[15:08] <AlanBell> MrChrisDruif: I know all about the background to it, the fact that it just hit slashdot is why I posted it here
[15:08] <MrChrisDruif> They've discovered it in #ubuntu-offtopic as well...discussing it as we speak =P
[15:58] <MrChrisDruif> popey; btw, great new Lens ;-)
[16:02] <AlanBell> funnily enough I was looking for a nice simple lens written in python without heaps of Canonical copyright statements all over it to base an OpenERP lens on
[16:18] <JanC> hm, maybe somebody should write an article explaining how to pin packages (to avoid that they disable all updates, as I see some commenters did just that)?
[16:20] <JanC> AlanBell: Canonical copyright statements don't have to be a problem, depending on the license?  ;)
[16:21] <mhall119> correct, any code will have a copyright statement for the author, but the license is all that matters for reuse
[16:22] <JanC> and depending on the license, you can even remove the copyright statement...
[16:24] <JanC> although, that might depend on certain national laws
[16:24] <AlanBell> yeah, I just wanted a totally empty framework
[16:25] <JanC> I guess the WTFPL is a good license for demo code (although some people might be offended by the "F" in its name)  ;)
[16:26] <MrChrisDruif> Doesn't it stand for "Friendly" then?
[16:27] <AlanBell> "do what the friendly you like license"
[16:28] <JanC> although, maybe the "Beerware License" is even better  :P
[17:20] <MrChrisDruif> Hmm, that little server I've seen is now about €200,-!! =D
[17:23]  * AlanBell is adapting the porn lens to search for customers and invoices in openERP
[17:23] <AlanBell> what could possibly go wrong
[17:27] <bkerensa> =o
[17:30] <MrChrisDruif> I think nothing ^_^
[17:30] <MrChrisDruif> But I'm always optimistic =D
[17:33]  * JanC hasn't found any good use for lenses yet--unity's window/layer/whatever pops up way too slow for that...
[17:52] <MrChrisDruif> Hmm...the credit on my bank account is positive enough that I'll order that MicroServer =D
[18:16] <popey> yay MrChrisDruif
[18:16] <MrChrisDruif> After I'll be toying with ideas I've had in my head for awhile ^_^
[20:41] <AlanBell> hmm, my openerp lens is kinda working, however you can filter your invoices by preferred gender and position
[21:51] <ashams> anyone visited akgraner 's g+ profile lately? https://plus.google.com/#107415582881714707533/posts
[21:52] <ashams> I never seen that number of games on one profile :P
[21:53] <popey> i see no games
[21:54] <popey> oh!
[21:54] <popey> thats one game
[21:54] <popey> and all on one day by the look of it
[21:55] <pleia2> cityville bender? :)
[21:55] <popey> yeah ☺
[21:55] <popey> "Testing gaming on Ubuntu"
[21:56] <mhall119> sure, sure
[21:57] <czajkowski> not sure what I'm more excited about, packed for ireland for xmas hols, packed up for new apartment, or the fact that everytyhing is so tidy here now :D
[21:57] <pleia2> czajkowski: hooray! :)
[21:57] <czajkowski> indeed
[22:01] <mhall119> czajkowski: moving back to Ireland, or somewhere else in England?
[22:02] <czajkowski> mhall119: ireland xmas visit, moving to another part of London
[22:02] <czajkowski> right beside the london eye
[22:02] <czajkowski> soo pretty
[22:02] <mhall119> nice
[22:03] <mainerror> czajkowski: Nice!
[22:03] <mhall119> I say 'nice', but I really can't fathom living in a big city
[22:03] <mhall119> even if it is London
[22:06] <czajkowski> popey: jcastro makes an excellent point, would it be possible to get minecraft int the Sw centre?
[22:08] <popey> no
[22:08] <popey> we tried
[22:08] <czajkowski> :/
[22:08] <mhall119> why not?
[22:08] <czajkowski> that's a shame
[22:08] <mhall119> license?
[22:11] <popey> AIUI mojang are linux-unfriendly
[22:11] <popey> and are very particular about how they get their revenue
[22:11] <popey> i.e. you'll notice that minecraft isn't on steam
[22:15] <mainerror> Does Minecraft even work with OpenJDK?
[22:15] <AlanBell> yes
[22:15] <popey> of course
[22:15] <mainerror> I thought it was recommended to use Sun JRE. I meant JRE not JDK.
[22:15] <popey> thats something else entirely
[22:15] <popey> you said 'does minecraft even work' which is separate from ' it was recommended'
[22:16] <AlanBell> mainerror: too many things do for no reason whatsoever
[22:16] <mainerror> I'm not trying to defend the recommendation I was just wondering.
[22:17] <AlanBell> so we end up with people assuming it won't work and turning on the partner repo and jumping through hoops to install sun jdk and it actually "just works" on Ubuntu
[22:18] <AlanBell> but it isn't so easy to integrate stuff into unity
[22:26] <mhall119> AlanBell: what do you mean?
[22:30] <MrChrisDruif> popey; I've ordered it!
[23:03] <AlanBell> mhall119: as popey and aqarius were saying if you have a random executable thing and you run it, and it turns up in the launcher and you click on it and select "keep in launcher" it doesn't
[23:17] <JanC> AlanBell: sometimes it does  ;)
[23:39] <popey> MrChrisDruif: yay
[23:39] <MrChrisDruif> popey; should be here this week ^_^