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micahgare patches to remove g_thread_init completely from packages upstreamable to actual upstreams yet or should we just keep this as a diff right now?04:50
brodermicahg: i thought you needed to add gthread-2.0 to the pkg-config list, not remove it04:53
micahgbroder: well, that's one option, but it won't do anything anymore in precise AFAICT04:53
brodermicahg: but presumably it's needed on older glibs, right?04:54
micahgyeah, maybe I should just change it to link with gthread-2.0 now that I think about it, but I'm wondering why people are adding patches to remove the calls04:55
broderif there's actually any multithreading, that seems like it could be dangerously wrong04:57
micahgbroder: which part?04:58
brodernot calling g_thread_init04:58
broderis it actually no longer needed?04:58
micahgah, yeah04:59
micahgwell, it seems to b: http://developer.gnome.org/glib/2.31/glib-Deprecated-Thread-APIs.html#g-thread-inite needed, but doesn't support custom implementations04:59
broderyeah, dropping the calls just doesn't feel like a great idea if you need them to do any multithreaded stuff05:03
achiangrhythmbox in 12.04 seems to have forgotten about the music store. :-/05:16
micahgachiang: well, it needs to be ported to gtk3 for that05:16
achiangoh.05:17
achiangis there a blueprint for that?05:17
achiangthis page is... missing stuff? http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/05:19
micahgachiang: could be it's already ported, but that's why we didn't have it in oneiric05:25
achiangmicahg: poking around with apt-cache search doesn't show anything promising05:25
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RAOFAh, well.  At least now I know *where* those bad sectors on the hard drive are...22:12
bjsnideryou haven't replaced that drive yet?22:15
mainerrorRAOF: You should replace it ASAP!22:16
RAOFYeah, yeah.22:17
RAOFI'm happy to ride it into the ground; all the data's safely duplicated elsewhere.22:17
* RAOF is more annoyed with his SSD that's no longer appearing as a drive to the BIOS.22:17
mainerrorOh, that doesn't sound good either.22:19
mainerrorWhat SSD is it?22:19
RAOFAgain, Déja Dup to the rescue.22:20
RAOFA vertex 3.22:20
mainerrorOh no! I wanted to get on of those!22:20
bjsnideris that a bios bug?22:22
RAOFOnly if it's a bios bug that applies to an x200s, a UEFI dell, and a legacy dell.22:22
* RAOF wonders if there's been unusual power fluctuations; *all* his hardware has decided to do strange things.22:24
mainerrorThat might be an explanation.22:29
JanC"unusual power fluctuations" shouldn't influence a laptop all that much, I think22:48
RAOFYeah; everything's plugged into surge-protectors, and the battery should cushion low-voltage events.22:49
JanCas should the power supply really22:49
JanCthat's 3 levels of protection, at least22:50
JanCalthough, beware of network connections...22:54
RAOFAlso plugged into a surge protector.22:55
RAOFWell, except for the DSL :)22:55
JanCI have my DSL going through a surge protector actually  ;)22:56
JanC(although it probably won't survive a direct lightning strike...)22:56
JanCI got somewhat wary about these things after a neighbour got hit by a lightning strike and I lost several pieces of electronic/computer equipment by that too...22:59
JanCI lost a cable modem, a monitor, a router and an USB disk that night...23:02
RAOFOh!  I think this might explain my > 1 minute login time on this system.  There are bad sectors in some files that might get touched at login…23:02
RAOFOoh, ow.23:02
JanCwell, I could rescue the actual hard disk, but the USB part was fried; and similarly only the ethernet parts of the router were fried, but that made them useless for the purpose I bought them  ;)23:05
RAOFHeh.23:06
JanCRAOF: bad sectors on an SSD should be relocated normally?23:07
JanCby the SSD firmware?23:07
RAOFYes, but only on write IIUC.23:07
JanCright23:08
RAOFAnd this is a rotating rust.23:08
JanCwell, maybe even on read, duno23:08
RAOFI think it's only on write; it can't make a sensible relocation on read, as it doesn't have sensible data.23:09
JanCdepends, it could relocate if multiple reads are needed23:09
JanCor if a read needs error corrections23:10
JanCdepending on how they implemented stuff ;)23:10
JanCbut i doubt most SSD are that clever  :-/23:11

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