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showardyumbo: there is some discussion about the peazip file package request here: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=49937600:01
ubottuDebian bug 499376 in wnpp "RFP: peazip -- file and archive manager" [Wishlist,Open]00:01
jtaylorclick on the name one the package page00:01
yumboshoward, already saw that00:02
showardok good, sorry - i came in the middle of the discussion00:02
yumbojtaylor, I did that but couldnt find an email address :s00:02
jtayloroh right, its in the url :)00:03
yumbojtaylor, ah, how could I not notice00:03
yumbojtaylor, thanks for your help00:06
jtayloryumbo: here are all package depending on fpc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/773873/00:08
yumboawesome, thanks00:09
Ampelbeinshoward: ->missingpackages - this also includes packages that are in ubuntu but have a higher version in debian.00:55
jtaylorall packages I checked where even removed from debian00:59
jtaylorwhy are they shown there?00:59
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micahgis there any best practices for things that fail with -pedantic for not meeting ISO C90 standards?08:15
niels_hello11:30
alpha-aquilaeDo you know any virtual sound board (like http://bit.ly/uN3CNk ) running under ubuntu?13:35
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om26erI have worked on ~40 SRUs over the last year for different desktop packages, where does that bring me on becoming-a-MOTU situation?14:20
tumbleweedom26er: that's quite a bit14:22
tumbleweedof course, MOTUs are expected to have a fairly wide area of expertise, more than just desktop14:23
tumbleweedhave you considered joining the desktop team?14:23
om26ertumbleweed, thats also an option ?14:24
om26eri think desktop-team would take more than that ;-)14:24
tumbleweedsure, you don't have to be a MOTU to get upload rights14:24
tumbleweedmost of the packages you've touched look like they are in main, so MOTU wouldn't help you much, anyway14:24
om26eryep almost all of them are in main, i'll see with the destop guys then when they come back from holidays, thanks tumbleweed14:26
tumbleweedhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Developers14:26
tumbleweedspeak to the people who've sponsored you. They would be the ones who'd endorse your application, and I assume most of them are desktop team members themselves14:27
showardHey MOTUs, I was on here last night asking about "missing packages" https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+missingpackages15:20
showardmy question was: why are there so many packages (new) that have not synced in precise yet that are not in wheezy15:21
showardfor > 3 weeks, and is this a bug15:21
showardthe response was that those packages were removed in Debian or they were just a new package in wheezy than in precise15:22
showardI looked into it more, and I don't think that's correct. It appears that there is a bug that is stopping the auto-syncing of new packages from wheezy15:23
showard(or my understanding is incorrect)  On the first page of missing packages, I clicked on 4 random packages - all of them have been in wheezy for > 3 weeks, are new packages, and have never been synced in ubuntu15:24
showardI've now looked into ~ 20 packages, every one of them migrated to testing between as early as Oct 14 but has never been synced in Ubuntu (of course, check ones with version numbers and uploaders, the others have been removed from wheezy)15:32
showardAs an example, check the triplea package (that's what got me to notice this). In wheezy since 11/24 and never synced to Ubuntu15:34
udienztumbleweed, i can't use grab-merge on debian-unstable :(15:41
udienzERROR: The certificate of `merges.ubuntu.com' is not trusted.15:41
udienzit's a bug or ..?15:41
jtaylorisn't there a flag to ignnore that?15:42
udienzhm.. adding --no-check-certificate to wget (in /usr/bin/grab-merge) solving the problem15:47
tumbleweedshoward: firstly, new packages have to be reviewed by archive admins, so they take a while to enter Ubuntu. I assume the archive admins will try and review them all before DIF15:51
tumbleweedshoward: second, +missingpackages (and the related pages) don't know about the sync blacklist15:51
tumbleweedjtaylor, udienz (ah he's gone): Looks like an unecessary certificate in the middle of the validation chain16:20
tumbleweedudienz: I think the reason it works on Ubuntu is that ubuntu is using openssl instead of gnutls in wget16:37
tumbleweedcjwatson: ^ ?16:38
showardtumbleweed: thanks for the explanation. I didn't know manual intervention was required for NEW packages. I knew +missingpackages don't know about sync blacklist so I was ignoring those too17:15
udienztumbleweed, thanks. well i just pass certificate-check to ignore it. but i think it's not a solutions :(17:21
tumbleweedudienz: yeah, that's what I've been doing too. it's been a problem for ages18:06
ajmitchtumbleweed: udd reimport work ok for you?19:25
tumbleweedajmitch: seems good19:36
ajmitchok19:38
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micahgAmpelbein: you could upload the gnome-gmail fix, SRU review happens in queue now21:32
Ampelbeinmicahg: Oh, didn't know that. Will do.21:32
Ampelbeinthanks21:33
micahgAmpelbein: yeah, just subscribe ubuntu-sru, mark fix committed and note in the bug it's uploaded21:33
cjwatsontumbleweed: no idea, I'm afraid; I regret to say SSL certificates generally hurt my brain22:31
micahgI've never had a problem with grab-merge22:34
cjwatsonLaney: I can't figure out why e.g. http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/ghc.html won't show any real output for armhf.  Can you puzzle it out?22:44
cjwatsonLaney: I did (belatedly) remember to add it to archive_ports.ben ...22:44
cjwatsonLaney: and I removed monitor.cache in case there was something stale there, not that it made any difference22:44
Laneyisn't there a static arch list somewhere?22:44
cjwatsonnot sure ... ocaml is not my strong point22:45
Laneydoing the merge atm anyway22:45
cjwatsonhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/774748/ is the current cronned script BTW in case that helps22:45
cjwatsonmkay22:45
Laneysorry for tardiness, the power of beer compelled me22:45
cjwatsonoften happens22:45
Laneymaybe arches need to appear in lib/benl_base.ml?22:47
cjwatsonit didn't make sense to me from what I could make out of the code, but I'll admit it's possible22:47
cjwatsonit looked like architectures in monitor files should override that22:47
Laneycjwatson: seems to WFM locally: http://orangesquash.org.uk/~laney/transitions/ghc.html23:06
Laneycjwatson: OK I pushed code to lp:ubuntu-transition-tracker and configs to lp:~ubuntu-transition-trackers/ubuntu-transition-tracker/configs with a new global.conf which you'll want to pass to ben using -g.23:39
Laneynext I'll rejig things so that we can use the index page generation23:39
Laneyis there a better way to keep that configs branch? I don't know enough about LP codehosting to know if it's possible to have more than one codebase under a project.23:40
Laneythis one gets stacked on lp:ubuntu-transition-tracker23:40
* Laney retires, nn23:41
micahgLaney: branches are owned by teams and you can have as many as you want per project23:42
tumbleweedmicahg: ever used grab-merge on debian?23:51
micahgDebian has a grab-merge?23:52
tumbleweedmicahg: ubuntu-dev-tools is a debian package23:52
micahgah, heh, right23:52
tumbleweederm, so I assume I have to wave that by canonical ISD23:53

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