[02:15] <micahg> joelesko: Well, I guess I could upload seamonkey final to precise on tuesday or I could upload beta 4 tonight
[02:16] <micahg> Guest7159: I think there might be a workitem for it
[02:16] <micahg> Guest7159: and it would only be for Firefox, we don't ship xulrunner in Ubuntu anymore
[02:24] <Guest7159> micahg: hey - thanks for the reply! Firefox uses xulrunner though, right? or am I mistaken?
[02:39] <micahg> Guest7159: well, Firefox uses the same Gecko engine that is xulrunner, but we don't build Firefox on Xulrunner
[02:49] <Guest7159> micahg: so where would you go if you wanted overlay scrollbars in firefox? gecko?
[02:49] <Guest7159> let me change my name to something more sensible
[02:49] <Will123> that'll do
[02:49] <micahg> nowhere ATM since it doesn't exist
[02:50] <Will123> micahg: i mean to implement it. if i wanted to recklessly dive in and get hacking
[02:50] <micahg> Will123: you'll want to chat with chr1sccoulson, but he's on vacation until Jan 3
[02:50] <Will123> micahg: ah okay, fair enough :)
[02:51] <micahg> here's the blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-p-thunderbird-enhancements
[02:51] <Will123> disgusting how hard working people like to take time off around christmas eh :P
[02:51] <Will123> thanks for the link!
[02:53] <micahg> there's plenty of dev work to be done, but I don't have the list, Chris is driving this, I just try to keep the stable releases running
[02:55] <Will123> micahg: thanks for pointing me in the right direction anyway - i've been looking high and low and hadn't noticed the thunderbird enhancement thing. thanks. :)
[03:07] <bjsnider> micahg, i'd like to experiment with a change to one line in the chromium rules to see if it fixes the borked dbg packages. are you up for it?
[03:07] <micahg> bjsnider: got a pastebin or a link to a branch?
[03:08] <bjsnider> what would be the fastest way to implement it?
[03:08] <bjsnider> just a sec
[03:09] <bjsnider> change line 135 to this:
[03:09] <bjsnider> BUILD_ARGS += CFLAGS="-g" CXXFLAGS="-g" CPPFLAGS="-g" LDFLAGS="-g"
[03:10] <bjsnider> that's basically what they're doing in opensuse. they're not passing SYMBOLS=1 which doesn't seem to work anymore
[03:10] <micahg> the only one of those that isn't default in our toolchain is CPPFLAGS -g
[03:11] <bjsnider> hm, perhaps this is an ubuntu toolchain problem
[03:12] <micahg> oh, we also don't export it for LDFLAGS
[03:12] <micahg> but that makes sense I think
[04:29] <ahoneybun> what type work is available for a newbie?
[06:01] <joelesko> micahg: tuesday would be fine for final.
[06:01] <micahg> ok
[06:01] <micahg> will try to review over the weekend so it's ready to go tuesday
[06:02] <joelesko> thanks
[06:02] <joelesko> Should I propose what I pushed to my dev branch today?
[14:40] <erkan^> Hello, I have installed firefox & thunderbird 8 via ppa mozillateam (ppa). I have install Lightning too, but I see that is English. How do I change in Dutch?
[14:40] <erkan^> are you there too, JanC ?
[14:49] <JanC> erkan^: yes, but I have no idea if it has translations...
[14:50] <erkan^> than I must remove lightning via synaptic and I download via mozilla
[14:50] <erkan^> :
[19:56] <micahg> hmm...we used to install all the translations for lightning, but it seems like we no longer are
[20:09] <FernandoMiguel> boa noite
[20:13] <gnomefreak> lightning does not work with nightly tb builds (our lightning and upstream) neither work for some reason
[20:16] <micahg> yeah, lightning is only binary compatible with the release it's built for
[20:17] <micahg> gnomefreak: is there anything stuck in the moderation queue for the mozillateam list?
[20:18] <micahg> the TB was evaluating inactive lists to disable
[20:18] <gnomefreak> micahg: not sure i havent had time to look into it, let me finish what im doing and ill go through it but unless someone has helped clean it up it will take more than 1 day
[20:19] <micahg> gnomefreak: if you want to PM me or send me an encrypted e-mail with the credentials I can work on cleaning it up next week
[20:20] <gnomefreak> give me a few minutes to finish what im doing first
[20:20] <micahg> sure
[20:25] <gnomefreak> micahg: pm sent i will be here for a couple minutes longer than i have to cook
[22:24] <Muttley> hi, does ff 8.01 work with moonlight?
[22:28] <micahg> Muttley: which release?
[22:29] <Muttley> micahg: moonlight's release?
[22:29] <micahg> Muttley: no, Ubuntu
[22:30] <Muttley> ehm... actually i'm with chakra, but i think the issue is the same regardless the distro
[22:32] <Muttley> micahg:
[22:33] <micahg> is that an Ubuntu derivative?
[22:33] <micahg> I was going to say, we removed moon from oneiric and on since upstream development seems to have stopped
[22:36] <Muttley> micahg: no it's not an ubuntu derivative, i was trying to put together ff and linux... so at least for ubuntu there's not a solution, right?
[22:37] <micahg> Muttley: well, we don't support one, upstream moonlight could provide something, I don't know
[22:38] <Muttley> micahg: thanks, bye