[09:24] <AlanBell> morning all
[09:35] <daubers> morning
[09:35] <MartijnVdS> hellos
[09:55] <popey> morning all
[09:57] <christel> morning -uk :)
[10:15] <daubers> woot! Another OU assessment done
[10:17] <bigcalm> Good morning my fair people
[10:26] <awilkins> This church has surprisingly good mobile signal. Would have thought all the lead on the roof would block it.
[10:26] <ali1234> probably been nicked
[10:27] <awilkins> The organ pipes must be like a phased-array antenna or something.
[10:28] <awilkins> Or sold off by the vicar and replaced with three sheets of Mylar
[10:28] <awilkins> Oh great, a smoker sat near me
[10:29] <awilkins> 2nd hand smokestench for 2 hours :(
[10:29] <MartijnVdS> another reason for atheism :P
[10:29] <ali1234> wait are you ircing from a sermon?
[10:29] <awilkins> As if you hadn't guessed, am here to avert emotional blackmail repercussions.
[10:30] <awilkins> Wifelet is a godbotherer
[10:30] <ali1234> that's not very pious
[10:31] <gordonjc1> pipe organs are the best thing about churches
[10:32] <gordonjcp> a pipe organ is the best way to get serious bass
[10:33] <gordonjcp> all the dubstep kiddies are Doing It Wrong
[10:33] <bigcalm> Mmmmmmmm, bass
[10:33] <awilkins> And they were mentioned in Cryptonomicon which makes them practically geekchic
[10:34] <bigcalm> I do like to hear an organ being played when I stumble upon a church or cathedral (usually on holiday and visiting something grand))
[10:34] <bigcalm> awilkins: so you'll be off to midnight mass?
[10:36] <awilkins> Not catholic
[10:36] <awilkins> Wifelet and child are singing
[10:37] <danfish_> awilkins: wifelet? Are you Lord Bath? How many have you got?
[10:37] <danfish_> morning btw
[10:37] <bigcalm> Freecycle is the best source for new and weird words. Somebody is offering a roof rack that is "adjusterable"
[10:37] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: Adjustissimo!
[10:37] <gordonjcp> bigcalm: hah
[10:38] <gordonjcp> you know what I don't quite get about freecycle?
[10:38] <MartijnVdS> the 'free' bit?
[10:38] <gordonjcp> the sheer number of people freecycling breast pumps
[10:38] <bigcalm> Giving stuff away?
[10:38] <bigcalm> Haha
[10:38] <gordonjcp> just... what?
[10:38] <gordonjcp> why would you want a used one?
[10:38] <gordonjcp> is it some sort of code for something?
[10:41] <shauno> you should try to find out.  see how many you can collect before something strange happens.  I'm sure it'll make an interesting story one day
[10:44] <shauno> I can understand the motivation tho.  it's a bit of kit that they've considered foodsafe for however long, probably hopefully) sterilized on a disturbingly regular basis, and then retired at a relatively young age
[10:44] <shauno> but the moment it's second-hand, it's haraam
[10:46] <ali1234> i should put all my junk on freecycle
[10:53] <awilkins> So far, we've had : wrath, hegemony as reward for child-murder. Who knows whats next?
[11:01] <awilkins> Ignorance of basic biology!
[11:03] <shauno> to quote the internet, "you're doing it wrong".  you're meant to suspend all logical analysis at the door.  otherwise you'll only end up in tears.  and possibily mildly offended
[11:29] <MartijnVdS> \o/ CHDK
[11:31] <brobostigon> good mornign everyone.
[11:32] <MartijnVdS> hi brobostigon
[11:32]  * MartijnVdS is making a time-lapse video of the sky
[11:32] <MartijnVdS> nice dramatic hail clouds :)
[11:32] <brobostigon> hi MartijnVdS
[11:40] <zleap> hello
[11:40] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: cool, sounds interesting. :)
[11:41] <MartijnVdS> Lightning!
[11:41] <MartijnVdS> brobostigon: If you have a Canon point&shoot camera (Ixus, Powershot), look up CHDK
[11:41] <zleap> thats the calender and to do list add on for TB iirc
[11:41] <MartijnVdS> brobostigon: it's a custom firmware that runs in the RAM of the camera only (so no warranty issues)
[11:42] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: ah, interesting, i will have a look, didnt know that was possible.
[11:44] <MartijnVdS> brobostigon: and it's scriptable using Lua or Basic
[11:46] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: interesting,
[11:47] <MartijnVdS> I've set mine to do a shot every 4 seconds
[11:48] <MartijnVdS> so every minute I get 1 second of 12 FPS video
[11:48] <MartijnVdS> (below that, it loses smoothness)
[12:03] <zleap> what do i need to restore the boot loader on a computer that was dual boot winxp and ubuntu but a windows re-install has trashed the boot loader i have booted a 11.10
[12:06] <MartijnVdS> zleap: grub-install
[12:06] <zleap> thanks
[12:10] <zleap> do i need to specify the first partition on the drive e.g sda
[12:10] <zleap> or what ever it is,
[12:10] <MartijnVdS> no
[12:10] <MartijnVdS> /dev/sda is good
[12:10] <zleap> ok
[12:10] <zleap> and grub should find where ubuntu is installed to
[12:10] <MartijnVdS> zleap: it knows :)
[12:10] <zleap> ok
[12:17] <zleap> ok that fails
[12:17] <zleap> as I am used to 11.04, how do I from a live cd mount the windows hard disk
[12:17] <zleap> in 11.04 theres a places menu
[12:18] <MartijnVdS> open nautilus, then click on it?
[12:18] <zleap> ok
[12:26] <MartijnVdS> heh
[12:26] <MartijnVdS> encoding h264 video
[12:26] <MartijnVdS> at 0.25 fps
[12:26] <MartijnVdS> using all my CPU cores
[12:26] <penguin42> how many?
[12:26] <MartijnVdS> 4 cores
[12:26] <MartijnVdS> maybe it's 2 + hyperthreading
[12:27] <penguin42> which CPU?
[12:27] <MartijnVdS> model name	: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU         530  @ 2.93GHz
[12:28] <MartijnVdS> the i3 bit might be the issue
[12:28]  * MartijnVdS is saving money for an Ivy Bridge i7 in April-May
[12:28] <MartijnVdS> that should be able to hardware-encode h264
[12:29] <penguin42> MartijnVdS: http://ark.intel.com/products/46472/Intel-Core-i3-530-Processor-(4M-Cache-2_93-GHz)   2 cores, 4 threads
[12:29] <penguin42> still, I'm surprised it's that bad - what res video?
[12:31] <zleap> ok typing grub-instlall results in it saying it can't find a device, is /dev mounted
[12:31] <zleap> i will just re-install its easier
[12:31] <zleap> there used to be a gui tool for this, but it's gone
[12:32] <MartijnVdS> zleap: you have to chroot into the installed path
[12:32] <zleap> how do i do tjhat
[12:32] <MartijnVdS> zleap: (also, bind-mount /dev and /proc and /sys)
[12:32] <MartijnVdS> zleap: 1 moment
[12:33] <MartijnVdS> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:35] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: those new Ivy Bridge i7 CPUs are supposed to have 6-8 cores with 2 threads/core
[12:35] <penguin42> MartijnVdS: In the single socket ones?
[12:36] <penguin42> MartijnVdS: You can get a 6 core i7 now I think (core extreme something or other)
[12:36] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: yes.. but I don't have enough money yet ;)(
[12:36] <penguin42> yeh, they're not cheap
[12:36] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: hm.. Ivy Bridge "Performance" will be 4 cores/8 threads
[12:37] <zleap> ok, given there is nothing important on that partition,  and alli wanted to do was restore grub so i could boot into ubuntu to make a live cdrom I(wndows sucks at that)  would it be easier to simply make a usb flash disk boot with 12.04 and do it that way just reinstall with 12.04
[12:38] <MartijnVdS> zleap: Windows 7 can burn ISOs straight out of the box
[12:39] <MartijnVdS> zleap: also, unetbootin :)
[12:41] <penguin42> zleap: Hmm remember 12.04 is in alpha - anything may break and you might need to recover
[12:46] <zleap> penguin42, i know its on a 2nd system anyway
[12:47] <MartijnVdS> 2nd system effect?
[12:47] <zleap> i have a 2nd pc which iks space hence i have it dual boot with windows and ubuntu, so its for messing around with anyway
[12:48] <zleap> is spare
[12:53] <MartijnVdS> brobostigon: http://youtu.be/B9fyGO2i6Fk
[12:54] <zleap> ok windows xp sucks at that
[12:55] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: looks good, :)
[12:58] <zleap> ok i am off to have a play with 12.04 which looks good in virtual box btw
[13:39] <MartijnVdS> brobostigon: making a new (longer) one with more cloud coolness
[13:41] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: :)
[13:42] <MartijnVdS> even the import in shotwell looks amazing :)
[13:42] <brobostigon> :)
[13:43] <MartijnVdS> it's going to take a bit longer to encode too
[13:43] <MartijnVdS> (more images)
[13:44] <brobostigon> yes.
[14:06] <MartijnVdS> uploading.. :)
[14:06] <MartijnVdS> (8 minutes remaining)
[14:13] <brobostigon> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cVKL9XWZMM&feature=related :)
[14:13] <MartijnVdS> hey that's the background/intro music for the radio version :)
[14:14] <brobostigon> also the film, but yes originally the radio series. :)
[14:14] <MartijnVdS> brobostigon: http://youtu.be/5Idee9HRQrc (will be online shortly)
[14:14] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: ok, let me look in a mo.
[14:15] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: i like that piece of music, just the banjo, and pretty much nothing else, it is amazing really.
[14:16] <MartijnVdS> I think my dad might have it on vinyl - he has loads of Eagles on vinyl
[14:17] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: it is by no band. it was made for that, by the band that did the music for the radio series, if memory serves.
[14:17] <MartijnVdS> brobostigon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbhAf62wfgE
[14:17] <MartijnVdS> brobostigon: it's by the Eagles
[14:17] <AlanBell> my fingers hurt
[14:17] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: what did you do?
[14:17] <AlanBell> I need to be better at not picking up soldering irons from the wrong end
[14:18] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: wow, interesting, i did not know.
[14:18] <AlanBell> but on the plus side, the robot circuit board is complete and ready for testing
[14:18] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: A coworker has a t-shirt "If it smells like chicken, you're holding it wrong"
[14:19] <AlanBell> I was teaching the kids how to solder safely :)
[14:19] <brobostigon> lol :)
[14:21] <SuprEngr> hi all.. and AlanBell ... try it when working in a friends garden... burn causes a drop of iron onto wire - daft instint makes you turn around and put one hand on ground - other on wire....  ffffthcccchhhh = ouch - bang - burn
[14:22] <SuprEngr> *instinct  ;)
[14:36] <SuprEngr> Anyone know of a way to get Rhytjmbox [in 10.04] to open in Podcast view rather than music view.  gconf no help.
[15:06] <czajkowski> aloha
[15:44] <penguin42> dal.net is really unhappy today
[16:18] <mattt> people still chat on dal.net?
[16:30] <penguin42> mattt: There is a #science that I occupy; it's not particularly busy but I don't know of another
[16:39] <mgdm> #occupyscience
[16:44] <penguin42> it's difficult, if you claim to be the 99% they ask you to prove it
[16:44] <mgdm> heh heh
[17:20] <popey> ☺
[17:21] <mgdm> ಠ_ಠ
[17:21] <popey> like that one
[17:25] <Nafallo> christel: the good glögg is gone, and they haven't got any more ☹
[17:51] <christel> Nafallo: aww :(
[17:54] <Nafallo> christel: now I've got three bottles of 10% vinglögg instead of the 21% cognac laced one :-P
[17:54] <christel> aww
[18:00]  * czajkowski tickles christel 
[18:02]  * christel bites czajkowski 
[18:02]  * Nafallo orders chinese
[18:04] <czajkowski> oi cheeky
[18:04] <czajkowski> christel: how goes it my dear?
[18:04] <czajkowski> MooDoo: like the pics? very hit and miss but a good work shop all the same
[18:05] <Nafallo> omnomnomnomnomnom glögg ♥
[18:07]  * bigcalm waves some wine around (not the same but trying to blend in)
[18:10] <christel> czajkowski: not bad! not done with my christmas shopping yet mind :s
[18:10] <czajkowski> christel: oh dear what's left?
[18:11] <Nafallo> gah. stupid candle
[18:16] <czajkowski> Nafallo: are you drunk ?
[18:17] <Nafallo> czajkowski: not yet/anymore
[18:19] <Nafallo> czajkowski: it's tagged as taken at "Grenwich", which is what I'm referring to.
[18:20] <czajkowski> fixed
[18:21] <Nafallo> \o/
[18:21] <Nafallo> the rejoicing can commence
[18:35] <christel> czajkowski: inlaws!
[18:38] <czajkowski> ah lovely
[18:39] <christel> i just haven't a clue what to get them
[18:41] <Nafallo> camels
[18:41] <Nafallo> no one else would have given them camels
[18:41] <Nafallo> hmmm
[18:42] <Nafallo> that's not a bad idea that...
[18:43] <Nafallo> bah. damn orange messing up my google search. wrong kind of animal to pay for...
[20:10] <djones> ANybody picked up on this http://goo.gl/5VXaB Interesting review/comparison of Unity, Gnome 3 and KDE desktops, ends up putting Unity 2nd after KDE
[20:19] <zleap> hi
[20:20]  * zleap now has 12.04 dvd ready for testing
[20:49] <popey> AlanBell: you about?
[20:51] <popey> AlanBell: one person is getting cruddy audio from your mumble server, can't figure out why
[20:52] <AlanBell> hi
[20:53] <shauno> are they on the same client/platform as everyone else?  Most problems I've run into with that sorta thing, have been the availability of various codecs in various implementations
[20:54] <popey> we're both on 11.10
[22:12] <zleap> hi
[22:12] <zleap> 12.04 looks pretty cool
[22:41] <brobostigon> good night everyone, sleep well.
[23:06] <les_h> anyone here have any samba wisdom? I can't figure out what's going wrong
[23:07] <gordonjcp> don't ask to ask
[23:09] <les_h> I'm afraid my question really is that vague. It's not working and I don't know how to proceede
[23:09] <gordonjcp> well without a crystal ball it's hard to know where to start
[23:09] <gordonjcp> what have you tried? what happened when you tried it? what did you expect?
[23:10] <AlanBell> !samba
[23:11] <AlanBell> might be some troubleshoting info there
[23:11] <les_h> I followed the how-to instructions ( http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/install.html ) and also created a guest share.  testparm says it's ok and i can connect with smbclient to localhost and it's advertised on avahi and shows up on my mac, but when i try to connect there, i get a connection failed
[23:12] <les_h> nmblookup -d 2 '*' returns a bunch of lines of tdb(/var/run/samba/unexpected.tdb): tdb_open_ex: could not open file /var/run/samba/unexpected.tdb: No such file or directory
[23:13] <les_h> and the log file for it says [2011/12/18 22:11:30.116959,  0] nmbd/nmbd_subnetdb.c:250(create_subnets)
[23:13] <les_h>   create_subnets: Waiting for an interface to appear ...
[23:13] <les_h> i suspect i may be barking up the wrong tree, though
[23:22] <les_h> defH0j14
[23:31] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Gareth France] Today Britain! Tomorrow&..well, Britain I suppose& - http://cliftonts.co.uk/cubuntu/?p=23