=== ubott2 is now known as ubottu [16:01] anyone here [16:08] reducks: o/ [16:09] 11.04 install issue [16:09] fails at installing software packages [16:09] even with 0 checked [16:09] md5 sum is correct [16:09] reducks: do 11.10 or 10.04 [16:09] no reason to install 11.04 [16:10] not sure what issue you are having [16:10] 11.10 is xfce [16:10] doent not want [16:10] 10.04 is not [16:10] you can always install normal ubuntu and add metapackages [16:10] 10.04 is giving me usb install issues [16:10] or just install whatever you want [16:10] JACK, ardour... etc.. [16:10] well i want 11.04 like i had previously [16:10] :P [16:11] you can install whatever DE you want in 11.10 [16:11] gnome3 [16:11] mate... whatever [16:11] ^_^ [16:11] reducks: theres a log during the install, you can create a webserver on the machine that is failing [16:11] and you will see whatever is causing 11.04 to fail [16:12] however, that will lead you to filing a bug [16:12] and no one will care [16:12] which is why i suggest moving on [16:12] even consider installing 12.04 from a daily [16:12] or alpha [16:12] 12.04? [16:12] reducks: the upcoming release? [16:12] the next one? [16:12] 12.04 [16:13] yeah is it worth it/. [16:13] ? [16:13] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/daily/current/ [16:13] reducks: i dont know [16:13] im running 10.04 [16:14] and i dont plan on running anything but the next LTS (12.04) on my studio machine [16:14] but, there is *no* reason to run 11.04 [16:14] yeah not sure i fancy running an alpha [16:14] you *can* get it running im sure [16:14] i want it to look like it used to before i upgraded to 11.10 [16:15] the easy way would be, download normal ubuntu 11.04 and convert it, or add whatever packages you want/need [16:15] reducks: thats over [16:15] gnome2 is dead [16:15] ubuntu is doing what it always has [16:15] provide you with the latest version of gnome [16:15] mkay [16:15] which is gnome3 [16:15] gnome3 and unity look a lot alike [16:15] i know [16:16] ive got mint on this machine [16:16] if you want gnome2, there is a project called mate [16:16] that is available in mint12 [16:16] ^^ [16:16] im running it atm [16:16] ALSO, all the ubuntustudio stuff is availalbe in mint12 [16:16] ubuntu = ubuntustudio [16:16] mint is based on ubuntu, and uses the same repos, with custom pinned repos of their own [16:19] from mine... apt-get install ubuntustudio-audio ubuntustudio-audio-plugins [16:20] for example [16:20] or just search ubuntustudio in whatever package manager you use [16:20] i personally didnt find mate acceptable [16:20] im not sure i like gnome3 or unity though [16:21] its not as efficient for me to use [16:21] yup, im not using them either [16:21] what are you using? [16:21] openbox right now [16:21] for a few weeks [16:22] i find XFCE an acceptable gnome2 replacement though [16:22] more so than mate [16:22] yeah it just looks like a four year old drew it into the OS though [16:22] i suppose function over design [16:22] lol [16:22] thats what gnome2 looks like ;) [16:23] i guess it's just what im used to [16:23] you can theme it up anyways.. [16:23] i only made the switch to linux at gnome 2 [16:23] who 'likes' change afterall [16:23] to depends [16:24] we'll all like ardour3 [16:24] and the newer firefoxes are faster [16:24] just sux that it all happened at once [16:24] unity and gnome3 [16:24] but, its all open [16:25] you can run gnome2 if you want to deal with it [16:25] are they going to be releasing a ll kernel ? [16:25] reducks: they? [16:25] you mean are we? [16:25] depends [16:25] ^ [16:25] we are still working on it [16:25] i would like to have it in 12.04 [16:25] are you a developer ? [16:25] and then let it go [16:25] o_X [16:25] reducks: im a contributor and community member [16:26] ah cool [16:26] well [16:26] i guess i'm going to have to bite the bullet and go for 11.10 and change it up a bit [16:26] thanks alot for your help anyhow [16:26] sure [16:26] or just install into mint [16:26] its very much appreciated [16:26] or change stock 11.04 [16:26] or try 12.04 [16:26] or build your own [16:26] i only use mint at home [16:26] :) [16:27] its all open... there are always options [16:27] just out of interest what are the changes in 12.04? [16:27] kernel [16:27] proper themes [16:27] updated packages of course [16:28] hopefully a proper xfce implementation [16:28] decisions decisions [16:28] i think im going to have to put a bouncer in here [16:29] bouncer?.. where? [16:30] irc bouncer [16:30] :) [16:30] its been much quicker than looking at forums [16:31] sometimes... if you are patient [16:31] i miss a lot of questions here [16:31] i try and follow up with everyone who is still connected [16:32] anyways.. i gotta get to work [16:32] brunch concert :) [16:32] ciao [16:32] :)