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zacariassome characters, like "ã", õ", ç and "é", among others (portuguese characters) began suddenly to be replaced by russian characters. Not everytime, but in most web pages (on every browser) and pdf's it happens.00:55
zacariasAny idea of waht it may be?00:55
homebrewciderhi there, trying to get mythbuntu organised, I changed the cd-rw/dvd-rom to a dvd-rw, but now dvds won't play. I obviously have to do some sort of configuration, but I'm not sure what, can someone help please02:11
pleia2homebrewcider: the only thing I can think of is that the device name changed, might look in the /dev folder and see what it looks like, one of my systems is /dev/dvd another is /dev/dvd102:33
pleia2causes problems in VLC because it automatically just looks for /dev/dvd02:33
pleia2but I'm no expert in this :)02:33
mikodoAnyone now of any links on how to make CCSM's fusion icon persists over reboots; instead of having to click on it each reboot to use CCSM?06:20
mikodoedit; with Xfce06:22
homebrewciderpleia2-I'll check that out06:24
thirdyI installed rabbitvcs-thunar, however, I am not able to see it on thunar06:31
thirdyis there anything I missed?06:31
mikodoMaybe I am missing something here; Does one need to use the fusion-icon to start Compiz in Xfce; or can it be like in gnome2 where Compiz effects work without having to use it, because I don't need fusion-icon with it?06:40
homebrewciderpleia2, I see a (think it's a link ) to dvd1 and dvdrw106:41
mikodoI'll ask another time... :)06:44
CrownWheelHey.  New Xubuntu user here.  I noticed the screensaver pops on immediately upon joining a new wireless network for the first time.08:01
CrownWheelIt might sound like a dumb question but:08:01
CrownWheelIs this a feature or a bug?08:01
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thirdyI messed up my eclipse08:22
baizonhow come08:22
thirdyfirst some error pop up when I was installing subclipse08:23
thirdythen I wanted to have a fresh install, I did rm /usr/lib/eclipse08:23
thirdynow I can't install eclipse08:23
baizonwhy not install from a package?08:24
thirdy*I can't run it08:24
thirdyyou mean run from the zipped eclipse?08:24
baizonhow did you install it anyway?08:26
thirdythe usual apt-get08:26
baizonok08:26
baizonso purge eclipse and try to reinstall08:27
thirdyok I do08:27
thirdysudo apt-get purge eclipse08:27
thirdy0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 2 not upgraded.08:28
thirdyAfter this operation, 131 kB disk space will be freed.08:28
thirdysudo apt-get install eclipse08:28
thirdy\08:28
thirdydone08:28
thirdyexec: 40: /usr/lib/eclipse/eclipse: not found08:29
baizonapt-get remove eclipse08:30
baizondamn, sorry have to go :(08:30
baizonsee you later08:30
thirdyi will try thi08:31
thirdyhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=138540208:31
thirdycool got it working, I was getting really to switch to xp already08:35
thirdynow08:37
thirdyhow to get a working subclipse08:37
thirdywow now it works, though I lost the link where it has to correct steps to install javaSVN HL08:41
abstrakthow do I get pidgin in to my system tray on XFCE?09:34
Sysion xubuntu, indicator-applet and indicator-messages should work09:35
Sysiubottu: tell abstrakt about crosspost10:24
ubottuabstrakt, please see my private message10:24
abstraktdude, i know about crosspost10:24
abstraktyou already told me10:24
abstraktand i knew before, it was a legit cross post IMO10:24
knomethere are no "legit" crossposts10:25
abstraktyou guys are a bunch of dick wads10:26
knomehohhoijaa10:26
Sysihe's ranting at #xfce10:27
_DeLa_hi there10:46
_DeLa_next try, hope you can answer my question ;-)10:46
_DeLa_ question: when I am contend with everything the regular ubuntu has to offer except the unity desktop, is it okay to just install the lxde or xfce desktops environments from the software center and use them this way? Or do the full lubuntu / xubuntu provide a more stable / efficient use of these desktops?10:46
TheSheep_DeLa_: either way is fine, but with mixed environment some applications, like Nautilus, can sometimes hijack the scene10:47
TheSheep_DeLa_: or become defaults without you wanting that10:48
TheSheepwhich is slightly annoying10:48
_DeLa_TheSheep: ah, thanks for your reply! :-) But that would be about the only drawback? programs for other GUI might interfere? but not in the long run, just when for example opening a file, a unity only programm might be used to open it so I would have to find the xfce application which I want to use to open the file and appoint it to do so, right?10:51
TheSheep_DeLa_: something like that. I now remember that there was some guy who had problems with the applications menu too10:56
TheSheep_DeLa_: but I'm not sure what was the cause of his problems10:56
knomethere might be some features that aren't working if you don't install the xubuntu-desktop metapackage10:57
TheSheep_DeLa_: basically some applications wouldn't display the menu at the top of the window, assuming that it is displayed at the top of the screen like in unity, but it wasn't because he was using the xubuntu desktop10:57
knomecan't remember/don't know what those are right now10:57
_DeLa_ok, thank you both for your answers10:58
_DeLa_so, here I am in #xubuntu - why did you choose xfce and not lxde? :)10:59
knome_DeLa_, more mature and featureful11:01
_DeLa_knome: mature also meaning stable?11:01
knome_DeLa_, yes11:01
_DeLa_ok11:01
LinzeIs it possible to install "silverlight "in ubuntu11:47
TheSheepLinze: http://www.mono-project.com/Moonlight11:49
TheSheep!info moonlight11:49
ubottuPackage moonlight does not exist in oneiric11:49
LinzeTheSheep,Going to have a look11:49
TheSheephmm11:49
LinzeIts nont my choise to install Silverlight but oke11:50
Linzenont=not11:50
TheSheepI'm not judging you :)11:51
Linzegot the impression ;-)11:52
TheSheepAdmit it, you just feel guilty ;)11:52
LinzeLot of internet pages are infected with silverlight11:53
LinzeWell its not my choise to be onest.11:54
LinzeHave to set up dual boot....11:54
Linzefor a colleague of mine11:54
LinzeHe wanted to shihft to Linux,but I realize its not easy11:55
LinzeFor instance he wanted "his mailwasher"back...11:56
baizonnothing is easy :D11:56
LinzeOh,can be very easy11:57
LinzeBut if you are a little concerned about privacy for instance11:57
Linzethan its another story11:58
razielhi, can someone tell me how can i connect to a windows share please? in gigolo i cannot see my windows machine13:00
kamaradskiHi everyone :) say hello to a new and already very attached xubuntu user :)13:19
kamaradskidamn i'm impressed with the speed and stability of this setup !13:20
kamaradskiso i'm trying to setup my x11vnc for SSH-tunnel, anyone know where is the display manager startup script where i can make apps go auto-start on boot ?13:21
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Kurdistanhi. the fonts in xubuntu 11.10 does not look good with chrome and firefox.13:53
Kurdistanis there any way to make it better?13:53
Kurdistanubuntu have always good font rending13:54
_DeLa_hi there13:56
_DeLa_I am just using the xfce environment (meta package) on my linux mint and I notice, that right clicking on my desktop, the menu takes some time to appear....13:57
_DeLa_is this normal? ;-)13:59
TheSheep_DeLa_: it's re-generated after any changes in the menu, but then it's cached14:00
TheSheep_DeLa_: so you only should have a delay if you edited the menu or installed/removed some applications14:00
_DeLa_hmmm...I added some screenlets...14:00
TheSheepyou nly should have that delay once though14:01
TheSheepsubsequent displays of the menu should be instant14:01
_DeLa_they are not, unfortunately...14:02
TheSheepcome to think of it, I get the delay too14:02
_DeLa_it*s about 0,5 seconds delay14:02
TheSheepmust be something broken with that caching :/14:02
_DeLa_hmpf..14:03
TheSheep!bugs14:04
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.14:04
_DeLa_Well, I will probably switch to xubuntu with the next LTS release - I*ll file a bug if it*S still there tehn14:05
_DeLa_;-)14:05
_DeLa_taking a shower now ... :)14:06
kamaradskihi all, where do i find the xubuntu display manager script, to autostart a service before login ?14:07
mongykamaradski, might be able to use the /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf file, not sure.  Or could just use /etc/rc.local maybe ?15:09
kamaradskialright mongy, let me experiment a little with those suggestions, cheers a lot!15:22
razielhi, can someone tell me how can i connect to a windows network share please? in gigolo i cannot see my windows machine15:28
josen_Good evening :)15:54
josen_I need some advice on hardware sizing :-)15:54
TheSheepenlarge your hardware!15:55
josen_Yeah, question is which platform to get: AMD FX or Intel i5 :-)15:56
TheSheepI think this is offtopic here15:56
Sysiintel is more powerful with single-thread, amd the same or better with multithread15:56
Sysiintel probably uses less electricity15:57
josen_Sysi, thanks that the answer I needed :-)15:57
josen_Have a nice evening all :)15:57
kamaradskimongy, thanks man this did the trick, enable and populate the local.rc :)16:40
fschuindtSomeone knows how can I get my window border and top bar again without stop compiz?16:48
TheSheep!compiz | fschuindt16:49
ubottufschuindt: Compiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz16:49
soreauhi all, I'm trying xubuntu 11.10 and I did the cd check on the live session. When it completed, the message just said keys:Press any key to reboot your system17:51
soreauI assume this meant success, but there was no other message indicating this17:52
soreauNow I'm trying to install it but after I selected the language and download updates while installing/install third party software and selected Continue, it's just sitting there with a busy cursor for about 5 minutes now17:54
TheSheepis there a progress bar at the bottom?17:54
soreauno17:55
soreauIt umounted the failsystems (as per mount) but the Continue and Back buttons are inactive while the Quit button and check boxes are still active17:57
TheSheepI don't know17:59
soreauIn ps ax|grep ubiquity output, I see it's running these processes http://paste.ubuntu.com/774514/18:01
mongysoreau, it doesn't give me any info while installing either, I just let it run until its finished.. takes a while18:01
soreaumongy: In my past experiences with ubuntu, this step should take under a minute18:02
soreaumongy: Also it's not installing yet.. I'm only at the initial 'Preparing to install xubuntu' stage18:03
mongyah18:03
soreauhaven't even made it to gprated yet18:03
soreaugparted*18:03
soreauIt's stuck but I don't know why18:04
mongyI cant get xubuntu to use chrome as default browser, not fully.  I have run update-alternative --config x-www-browser, set it as prefered app in system settings but I still have to tell it to use it whenever I click a link in another app18:10
TheSheepmongy: check out /usr/share/applications/defaults.list18:12
TheSheepmongy: search it for http and https18:13
mongyah, nice18:13
TheSheepmongy: I spent several hours looking for that one :)18:13
mongythe setting isnt persistent in settings manager still.. nevermind18:18
mongydamnit, it keeps asking me for prefered application everytime I click a link.18:20
mongyand everytime I tell it chrome, and then chrome asks if I wanna make it default.18:20
TheSheepah, I have the same problem18:20
TheSheepI just said no to chrome18:21
mongyah, brilliant.  now its ok18:22
CaptainKnotsmy firefox asks me if I want to open a torrent with transmission, and then when I tell it yes and to always do that it still asks every time18:23
mongythat was a lot of work for a simple thing.18:23
CaptainKnotsurgh18:23
soreauI got it now.. basically restarted ubiquity and it happened to work this time18:40
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soreauI'm still in a live session waiting for the installation to complete (it's installing updates) but toying with the panel.. looking at the weather applet it wont update no matter what I do19:17
Sysiyeah there's a bug, fixable though19:17
soreauI set the location, restarted the panel, clicked 'Update' but it still says No Data19:17
soreauHover gives 'Cannot update weather data'19:18
soreauSysi: Is it fixed in updates? ie. after I boot to the clean install with updates should I expect it to work?19:18
SysiI'm not sure, there's PPA and way to fix manually19:24
soreauSysi: Can you give details please?19:24
marsjehi all19:30
marsjeI seem to have lost my window borders19:30
marsjeno sure where they have gone and no idea how to get them back...19:30
soreaumarsje: It's likely your window manager crashed19:32
soreauGet to a terminal and run xfwm4 --replace19:32
soreauor from tty, DISPLAY=:0 xfwm4 --replace19:32
marsjebut it's stil gone after a reboot...19:33
marsjebut let me try that19:33
marsjesoreau: that helps! although it still looks weird..19:34
soreauDid you have compiz running before?19:34
marsjethe text color is no right in my task bar19:34
marsjenot19:34
soreauWhat is the output of glxinfo|grep renderer ?19:34
marsjeno idea... I used to have gnome+compiz but I have switched to xubuntu, sonot sure if compiz is used19:35
mongymarsje, it's nit but it's easy enough to get working.19:37
mongy*not19:37
Sysimarsje: rm -rf ~/.cache/sessions and it will work after reboot19:38
Sysitry switching between two themes for panel weirdness19:38
marsjeoops, my xubuntu crashed19:39
marsjesoreau: OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 965G x86/MMX/SSE219:39
soreaumarsje: Your drivers should be working ok then.. not sure why things 'look weird'19:40
marsjeok, I did rm -rf ~/.cache/sessions, so let me reboot...19:40
Sysisoreau: btw, you can restore xfwm from xfrun4 too, Alt F2, unless xfce4-settings-helper has crashed too19:41
soreauSysi: Ah, good to know19:41
soreauI love that the panel doesn't have to be running for Alt+F2 to work for xfrun419:41
SysiI have hotkey for launching terminal too :P19:42
marsjeok, I rebooted and my windows have borders and a title bar again, but still doesn't look like before19:43
marsjelooks like the theme got mixed up19:44
marsjeSysi: how do I switch themes?19:44
Sysitry choosing greybird in settings -> appearance19:44
Sysisettings/settings manager19:45
marsjeSysi: yeah, seem to work19:45
marsjethanks19:45
marsjenot sure how I got into this state19:45
marsjeI had similar problems in gnome before19:45
Prometheshi, on my Xubuntu 11.10 there is no menus in applications, where i can enable them?19:46
Promethesi am using xchat now and there is no menu bar in application window19:46
fschuindtGuys, my Compiz Fusion Icon won't start when I clic it. My window top bar is missing. :(19:46
SysiPromethes: open synaptic or software center and remove indicator-appmenu and/or anything related to globalmenu19:46
soreauIs there a gui for monitor configuration?19:47
Sysifschuindt: you need to set compiz to use some window decorator in compizconfig-settingsmanager19:47
Sysisoreau: arandr works19:47
Sysifschuindt: gtk-window-decorator should work, if you have package that contains it19:48
soreauSysi: hmm.. I'll install it after updates. I guess I was looking for something default in the system settings menu19:48
Sysisoreau: well there should be "display" in settings manager but it is a bit lacky19:48
soreauSysi: ah, yes indeed19:49
fschuindtSysi: When I run it, nothing happens :(19:49
soreauSeems you can configure resolutions but not orientation (left-of/right-of)19:49
soreaufschuindt: Can you pastebin the output of 'compiz --replace' from your terminal to pastebin.com?19:50
fschuindtsoreau: ok, a minute19:50
fschuindtsoreau: http://pastebin.com/GsEYn7ix here19:52
soreaufschuindt: Does it help if you enable text plugin in ccsm?19:53
soreauand make sure Window Decoration plugin is enabled as well19:54
fschuindtsoreau: humm, I'll check it. ty19:54
Sysisoreau: you seem to be decent unix-like system user, been on xubuntu/linux long?19:58
mongyjust finished remastering an xubuntu with compiz/emerald setup all nice like :)19:58
soreauSysi: Been using linux for about 6 years now.. I periodically test xfce but never really had a reason to use it over gnome until recently with gnome-shell and unity crap20:00
Sysidoes emerald work in 11.10? Or would I be better out with G-W-D?20:00
soreauSysi: I dabble in compiz development.. recently I hacked emerald to work with latest compiz20:00
mongy0.9.4 compiles ok, 0.9.5 doesnt.  works fine tho.. I prefer to have a decent looking window theme20:01
soreauSo emerald master should work in theory20:01
Sysisoreau: heh, I hated old gnome, maybe because I started with xfce on old machine with little ram20:01
mongyit works in practice20:01
soreaumongy: I meant with compiz from 11.10 repos20:01
mongysoreau, im  using compiz from 11.10 repos.20:01
SysiI think 3.2 fallback isn't too bad, some panel plugins maybe missing though20:02
soreaumongy: Why did you build compiz then?20:02
mongysoreau, emerald was removed though, so need to compile it.  easy enough,.20:02
SysiI actually like gnome-shell pretty much20:02
Sysiisn't emerald dead upstream?20:02
fschuindtsoreau: sorry, I've lost my connection, I'll try now.20:02
soreauSysi: officially, yes20:02
mongySysi, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187079220:03
mongyjob done20:03
soreaumongy: That's not emerald master20:06
fschuindtsoreau: dude, thank you! It's work! :D20:06
soreaufschuindt: Cool ;)20:06
SysiI'm not really fan of emerald, I can use gtk-window-decorator if it works20:07
soreaufschuindt: Make sure to enable move and resize plugins and probably place and a switcher as well20:07
fschuindtsoreau: ok20:07
soreauyea, emerald is pretty buggy after years of bitrot20:07
mongysoreau, ah.  well it works for me so I use it. could never get any other decorator to work with compiz.20:07
soreauIt's amazing it still works20:07
soreaumongy: gtk-w-d should work fine20:08
mongysoreau, should, but doesn't.  not for me20:08
soreaumongy: What happens if you start it with gtk-window-decorator --replace?20:08
mongynot installed anymore.  clean installed already with compiz/emerald. works fine so no reason to change20:09
soreauWell for the record, it works fine20:09
soreauIf you weren't able to get it working, you were doing it wrong ;)20:10
mongyI'll try it again then.20:10
mongywhere is it now?20:12
mongycant see it in repo20:12
soreau!find gtk-window-decorator20:12
ubottuFile gtk-window-decorator found in compiz-gnome, gnome-orca20:12
soreauI guess they packaged it in compiz-gnome20:13
mongyah20:13
mongyugh.  now how do I set a window theme20:14
mongyI cant set anything in settings20:14
mongyI'll stick to emerald.  it works perfectly fine20:17
Sysig-w-d uses theme set in gconf20:19
soreaumongy: If there's no way to change the gtk theme, you'd have to specify gtk-window-decorator --replace --metacity-theme THEME20:20
soreauor possibly use gconf..20:20
SysiI think gnome-tweak-tool works20:20
soreauprolly20:21
Sysioneiric installation running in vbox..20:21
soreauomeiric updating..20:21
Sysi..I selected to install CLI system because I thought that was kubuntu image but I think it was xubuntu after all20:22
soreauI told it to download updates while installing and it did, but after I booted it I still have to do updates *shrug*20:22
mongythat --metacity command makes it work..  still think I'll stick with emerald on this one20:22
soreaumongy: The point was, that gtk-w-d is certainly not broken20:23
soreauemerald has varying degrees of breakage, depending on which theme and rendering engine used20:23
mongywell now I know what was stopping me using it.. but I dont really wanna install tweak tools to change theme.  besides, I like what I have.20:24
mongynot had an issue with it yet.  only really used 1 theme for a lengthy period.20:25
Sysimhm, ctrl alt F$Nr doesn't work on virtualbox even if keys are captured20:38
mongythats why I install ssh in em20:38
Sysiso you can ssh from other virtual machine?20:39
Sysioh, there's port forwarding too20:40
mongybridged networking for ease of use...20:40
mongyport forwarding otherwise yeah20:40
SysiI think that didn't work but it was on os x20:40
soreauhey guys, is there a way to set unlimited scrollback in xfce4-terminal?21:04
soreauin gnome-terminal there was a checkbox.. I am thinking maybe set 0 or -1 for unlimited?21:04
soreau(for scrollback lines in terminal settings)21:04
soreauI don't see the string 'scroll' anywhere in the manpage21:05
TheSheepsoreau: I think you can only set a very large number in the 'scroll lines' in preferences21:06
soreauIs there a gui for editing the menu like alacarte in gnome?21:08
Sysialacarte works21:09
soreauapparently the max is 524288021:13
Sysithat's pretty much21:13
TheSheepsoreau: I wonder what happens when you set it to 021:14
mongyhow much dependencies would isntalling gnome-terminal requite?21:15
mongyrequire*21:15
mongymy typing today, ugh21:15
Sysishould't be too much, at least with --no-install-recommends21:16
mongythunar expands its colums to fit automatically but does not shrink them later.. any way to do that?21:21
mongycolumns* damnit21:21
babblehey all, is there a pref I'm missing in Thunar for open/save dialogs to default to something other than the Recently Used search?21:34
Sysibabble: I think they're not thunar but gtk-filechooser21:42
babbleSysi: oooh, keen. Is there a pref I can edit for it, somewhere?21:43
babbleSysi: if I could get open/save to start in home, even, that would be okay21:43
babbleok, hmm, what does file_chooser_backend in gconf do? (in desktop > gnome > interface)? (is it relevant for xfce?)21:52
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soreauCan someone help me fix the weather panel applet? It refuses to update22:42
sp4zare you connected to the internet?22:44
soreauof course22:45
sp4zerror messages?22:46
sp4ztried removing/adding etc?22:46
knomesoreau, the package refuses to update or the content refuses to update?22:46
soreauknome: The content, sorry22:47
knomesoreau, that's known bug, and afaik there is no fix in the repositories yet.22:47
soreausp4z: I tried restarting the panel, updating the system and removing/readding it. Same behavior in live session22:47
Cybertinushello22:47
soreauknome: Well that's not good to hear. Is there a related bug report open?22:48
sp4z:(22:48
CybertinusI just ran apt-get install xubuntu-desktop on my Ubuntu 11.10 install, and then I started a Xubuntu-session. But now the resolution is *really* low (800x600). I want that on 1920x1200. Where can I change that? I can't seam to find it in the menu... :S22:48
knomesoreau, most probably yes, and it's being worked on upstream, but afaik they have no definite fix for that either22:49
soreauI don't see the point in shipping a broken applet..22:50
knomeCybertinus, settings -> settings manager -> display22:50
knomesoreau, it got broken after release. it's not about the plugins code, it's about the service provider not providing any more information with the api key they have used.22:50
soreauknome: Is there a third party applet that provides this functionality?22:50
knomei suppose there are other plugins that work, but i don't use any myself, so i'm unable to point to any22:50
Cybertinusknome: aaaaahhhh. Thnx. *Much* better22:51
soreauknome: So you're telling me it works upstream but it's broken by ubuntu packaging?22:51
Sysisoreau: if you search "xfce weather applet bug" in google, you'll find plenty of solutions and detailed explanation about it's brokenness22:51
knomesoreau, no, it doesn't work even upstream perfectly. no, it's not a ubuntu packaging issue.22:52
soreauSysi: ok thanks22:52
Cybertinusknome: I confused the settings-manager with the config-manager. I did open the config-manager, but it wasn't in there :p22:52
knomesoreau, the applet broke for everyone.22:52
knomeCybertinus, yeah, that's for different things ;)22:52
joshuas-dadhey guys, rookie linux user needs some help23:04
joshuas-dadhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/774762/23:05
joshuas-dadi am trying to get my dlink wireless working23:05
soreaujoshuas-dad: Do you have a wireless interface shown in the output of iwconfig?23:16

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