[00:55] some characters, like "ã", õ", ç and "é", among others (portuguese characters) began suddenly to be replaced by russian characters. Not everytime, but in most web pages (on every browser) and pdf's it happens. [00:55] Any idea of waht it may be? [02:11] hi there, trying to get mythbuntu organised, I changed the cd-rw/dvd-rom to a dvd-rw, but now dvds won't play. I obviously have to do some sort of configuration, but I'm not sure what, can someone help please [02:33] homebrewcider: the only thing I can think of is that the device name changed, might look in the /dev folder and see what it looks like, one of my systems is /dev/dvd another is /dev/dvd1 [02:33] causes problems in VLC because it automatically just looks for /dev/dvd [02:33] but I'm no expert in this :) [06:20] Anyone now of any links on how to make CCSM's fusion icon persists over reboots; instead of having to click on it each reboot to use CCSM? [06:22] edit; with Xfce [06:24] pleia2-I'll check that out [06:31] I installed rabbitvcs-thunar, however, I am not able to see it on thunar [06:31] is there anything I missed? [06:40] Maybe I am missing something here; Does one need to use the fusion-icon to start Compiz in Xfce; or can it be like in gnome2 where Compiz effects work without having to use it, because I don't need fusion-icon with it? [06:41] pleia2, I see a (think it's a link ) to dvd1 and dvdrw1 [06:44] I'll ask another time... :) [08:01] Hey. New Xubuntu user here. I noticed the screensaver pops on immediately upon joining a new wireless network for the first time. [08:01] It might sound like a dumb question but: [08:01] Is this a feature or a bug? === ubott2 is now known as ubottu === Exio is now known as Exio4|Away [08:22] I messed up my eclipse [08:22] how come [08:23] first some error pop up when I was installing subclipse [08:23] then I wanted to have a fresh install, I did rm /usr/lib/eclipse [08:23] now I can't install eclipse [08:24] why not install from a package? [08:24] *I can't run it [08:24] you mean run from the zipped eclipse? [08:26] how did you install it anyway? [08:26] the usual apt-get [08:26] ok [08:27] so purge eclipse and try to reinstall [08:27] ok I do [08:27] sudo apt-get purge eclipse [08:28] 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 2 not upgraded. [08:28] After this operation, 131 kB disk space will be freed. [08:28] sudo apt-get install eclipse [08:28] \ [08:28] done [08:29] exec: 40: /usr/lib/eclipse/eclipse: not found [08:30] apt-get remove eclipse [08:30] damn, sorry have to go :( [08:30] see you later [08:31] i will try thi [08:31] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1385402 [08:35] cool got it working, I was getting really to switch to xp already [08:37] now [08:37] how to get a working subclipse [08:41] wow now it works, though I lost the link where it has to correct steps to install javaSVN HL [09:34] how do I get pidgin in to my system tray on XFCE? [09:35] on xubuntu, indicator-applet and indicator-messages should work [10:24] ubottu: tell abstrakt about crosspost [10:24] abstrakt, please see my private message [10:24] dude, i know about crosspost [10:24] you already told me [10:24] and i knew before, it was a legit cross post IMO [10:25] there are no "legit" crossposts [10:26] you guys are a bunch of dick wads [10:26] hohhoijaa [10:27] he's ranting at #xfce [10:46] <_DeLa_> hi there [10:46] <_DeLa_> next try, hope you can answer my question ;-) [10:46] <_DeLa_> question: when I am contend with everything the regular ubuntu has to offer except the unity desktop, is it okay to just install the lxde or xfce desktops environments from the software center and use them this way? Or do the full lubuntu / xubuntu provide a more stable / efficient use of these desktops? [10:47] _DeLa_: either way is fine, but with mixed environment some applications, like Nautilus, can sometimes hijack the scene [10:48] _DeLa_: or become defaults without you wanting that [10:48] which is slightly annoying [10:51] <_DeLa_> TheSheep: ah, thanks for your reply! :-) But that would be about the only drawback? programs for other GUI might interfere? but not in the long run, just when for example opening a file, a unity only programm might be used to open it so I would have to find the xfce application which I want to use to open the file and appoint it to do so, right? [10:56] _DeLa_: something like that. I now remember that there was some guy who had problems with the applications menu too [10:56] _DeLa_: but I'm not sure what was the cause of his problems [10:57] there might be some features that aren't working if you don't install the xubuntu-desktop metapackage [10:57] _DeLa_: basically some applications wouldn't display the menu at the top of the window, assuming that it is displayed at the top of the screen like in unity, but it wasn't because he was using the xubuntu desktop [10:57] can't remember/don't know what those are right now [10:58] <_DeLa_> ok, thank you both for your answers [10:59] <_DeLa_> so, here I am in #xubuntu - why did you choose xfce and not lxde? :) [11:01] _DeLa_, more mature and featureful [11:01] <_DeLa_> knome: mature also meaning stable? [11:01] _DeLa_, yes [11:01] <_DeLa_> ok [11:47] Is it possible to install "silverlight "in ubuntu [11:49] Linze: http://www.mono-project.com/Moonlight [11:49] !info moonlight [11:49] Package moonlight does not exist in oneiric [11:49] TheSheep,Going to have a look [11:49] hmm [11:50] Its nont my choise to install Silverlight but oke [11:50] nont=not [11:51] I'm not judging you :) [11:52] got the impression ;-) [11:52] Admit it, you just feel guilty ;) [11:53] Lot of internet pages are infected with silverlight [11:54] Well its not my choise to be onest. [11:54] Have to set up dual boot.... [11:54] for a colleague of mine [11:55] He wanted to shihft to Linux,but I realize its not easy [11:56] For instance he wanted "his mailwasher"back... [11:56] nothing is easy :D [11:57] Oh,can be very easy [11:57] But if you are a little concerned about privacy for instance [11:58] than its another story [13:00] hi, can someone tell me how can i connect to a windows share please? in gigolo i cannot see my windows machine [13:19] Hi everyone :) say hello to a new and already very attached xubuntu user :) [13:20] damn i'm impressed with the speed and stability of this setup ! [13:21] so i'm trying to setup my x11vnc for SSH-tunnel, anyone know where is the display manager startup script where i can make apps go auto-start on boot ? === EyesIsAsleep is now known as EysIsPerson === EysIsPerson is now known as EyesIsServer [13:53] hi. the fonts in xubuntu 11.10 does not look good with chrome and firefox. [13:53] is there any way to make it better? [13:54] ubuntu have always good font rending [13:56] <_DeLa_> hi there [13:57] <_DeLa_> I am just using the xfce environment (meta package) on my linux mint and I notice, that right clicking on my desktop, the menu takes some time to appear.... [13:59] <_DeLa_> is this normal? ;-) [14:00] _DeLa_: it's re-generated after any changes in the menu, but then it's cached [14:00] _DeLa_: so you only should have a delay if you edited the menu or installed/removed some applications [14:00] <_DeLa_> hmmm...I added some screenlets... [14:01] you nly should have that delay once though [14:01] subsequent displays of the menu should be instant [14:02] <_DeLa_> they are not, unfortunately... [14:02] come to think of it, I get the delay too [14:02] <_DeLa_> it*s about 0,5 seconds delay [14:02] must be something broken with that caching :/ [14:03] <_DeLa_> hmpf.. [14:04] !bugs [14:04] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. [14:05] <_DeLa_> Well, I will probably switch to xubuntu with the next LTS release - I*ll file a bug if it*S still there tehn [14:05] <_DeLa_> ;-) [14:06] <_DeLa_> taking a shower now ... :) [14:07] hi all, where do i find the xubuntu display manager script, to autostart a service before login ? [15:09] kamaradski, might be able to use the /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf file, not sure. Or could just use /etc/rc.local maybe ? [15:22] alright mongy, let me experiment a little with those suggestions, cheers a lot! [15:28] hi, can someone tell me how can i connect to a windows network share please? in gigolo i cannot see my windows machine [15:54] Good evening :) [15:54] I need some advice on hardware sizing :-) [15:55] enlarge your hardware! [15:56] Yeah, question is which platform to get: AMD FX or Intel i5 :-) [15:56] I think this is offtopic here [15:56] intel is more powerful with single-thread, amd the same or better with multithread [15:57] intel probably uses less electricity [15:57] Sysi, thanks that the answer I needed :-) [15:57] Have a nice evening all :) [16:40] mongy, thanks man this did the trick, enable and populate the local.rc :) [16:48] Someone knows how can I get my window border and top bar again without stop compiz? [16:49] !compiz | fschuindt [16:49] fschuindt: Compiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz [17:51] hi all, I'm trying xubuntu 11.10 and I did the cd check on the live session. When it completed, the message just said keys:Press any key to reboot your system [17:52] I assume this meant success, but there was no other message indicating this [17:54] Now I'm trying to install it but after I selected the language and download updates while installing/install third party software and selected Continue, it's just sitting there with a busy cursor for about 5 minutes now [17:54] is there a progress bar at the bottom? [17:55] no [17:57] It umounted the failsystems (as per mount) but the Continue and Back buttons are inactive while the Quit button and check boxes are still active [17:59] I don't know [18:01] In ps ax|grep ubiquity output, I see it's running these processes http://paste.ubuntu.com/774514/ [18:01] soreau, it doesn't give me any info while installing either, I just let it run until its finished.. takes a while [18:02] mongy: In my past experiences with ubuntu, this step should take under a minute [18:03] mongy: Also it's not installing yet.. I'm only at the initial 'Preparing to install xubuntu' stage [18:03] ah [18:03] haven't even made it to gprated yet [18:03] gparted* [18:04] It's stuck but I don't know why [18:10] I cant get xubuntu to use chrome as default browser, not fully. I have run update-alternative --config x-www-browser, set it as prefered app in system settings but I still have to tell it to use it whenever I click a link in another app [18:12] mongy: check out /usr/share/applications/defaults.list [18:13] mongy: search it for http and https [18:13] ah, nice [18:13] mongy: I spent several hours looking for that one :) [18:18] the setting isnt persistent in settings manager still.. nevermind [18:20] damnit, it keeps asking me for prefered application everytime I click a link. [18:20] and everytime I tell it chrome, and then chrome asks if I wanna make it default. [18:20] ah, I have the same problem [18:21] I just said no to chrome [18:22] ah, brilliant. now its ok [18:23] my firefox asks me if I want to open a torrent with transmission, and then when I tell it yes and to always do that it still asks every time [18:23] that was a lot of work for a simple thing. [18:23] urgh [18:40] I got it now.. basically restarted ubiquity and it happened to work this time === Pieman is now known as Paimun [19:17] I'm still in a live session waiting for the installation to complete (it's installing updates) but toying with the panel.. looking at the weather applet it wont update no matter what I do [19:17] yeah there's a bug, fixable though [19:17] I set the location, restarted the panel, clicked 'Update' but it still says No Data [19:18] Hover gives 'Cannot update weather data' [19:18] Sysi: Is it fixed in updates? ie. after I boot to the clean install with updates should I expect it to work? [19:24] I'm not sure, there's PPA and way to fix manually [19:24] Sysi: Can you give details please? [19:30] hi all [19:30] I seem to have lost my window borders [19:30] no sure where they have gone and no idea how to get them back... [19:32] marsje: It's likely your window manager crashed [19:32] Get to a terminal and run xfwm4 --replace [19:32] or from tty, DISPLAY=:0 xfwm4 --replace [19:33] but it's stil gone after a reboot... [19:33] but let me try that [19:34] soreau: that helps! although it still looks weird.. [19:34] Did you have compiz running before? [19:34] the text color is no right in my task bar [19:34] not [19:34] What is the output of glxinfo|grep renderer ? [19:35] no idea... I used to have gnome+compiz but I have switched to xubuntu, sonot sure if compiz is used [19:37] marsje, it's nit but it's easy enough to get working. [19:37] *not [19:38] marsje: rm -rf ~/.cache/sessions and it will work after reboot [19:38] try switching between two themes for panel weirdness [19:39] oops, my xubuntu crashed [19:39] soreau: OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 965G x86/MMX/SSE2 [19:40] marsje: Your drivers should be working ok then.. not sure why things 'look weird' [19:40] ok, I did rm -rf ~/.cache/sessions, so let me reboot... [19:41] soreau: btw, you can restore xfwm from xfrun4 too, Alt F2, unless xfce4-settings-helper has crashed too [19:41] Sysi: Ah, good to know [19:41] I love that the panel doesn't have to be running for Alt+F2 to work for xfrun4 [19:42] I have hotkey for launching terminal too :P [19:43] ok, I rebooted and my windows have borders and a title bar again, but still doesn't look like before [19:44] looks like the theme got mixed up [19:44] Sysi: how do I switch themes? [19:44] try choosing greybird in settings -> appearance [19:45] settings/settings manager [19:45] Sysi: yeah, seem to work [19:45] thanks [19:45] not sure how I got into this state [19:45] I had similar problems in gnome before [19:46] hi, on my Xubuntu 11.10 there is no menus in applications, where i can enable them? [19:46] i am using xchat now and there is no menu bar in application window [19:46] Guys, my Compiz Fusion Icon won't start when I clic it. My window top bar is missing. :( [19:46] Promethes: open synaptic or software center and remove indicator-appmenu and/or anything related to globalmenu [19:47] Is there a gui for monitor configuration? [19:47] fschuindt: you need to set compiz to use some window decorator in compizconfig-settingsmanager [19:47] soreau: arandr works [19:48] fschuindt: gtk-window-decorator should work, if you have package that contains it [19:48] Sysi: hmm.. I'll install it after updates. I guess I was looking for something default in the system settings menu [19:48] soreau: well there should be "display" in settings manager but it is a bit lacky [19:49] Sysi: ah, yes indeed [19:49] Sysi: When I run it, nothing happens :( [19:49] Seems you can configure resolutions but not orientation (left-of/right-of) [19:50] fschuindt: Can you pastebin the output of 'compiz --replace' from your terminal to pastebin.com? [19:50] soreau: ok, a minute [19:52] soreau: http://pastebin.com/GsEYn7ix here [19:53] fschuindt: Does it help if you enable text plugin in ccsm? [19:54] and make sure Window Decoration plugin is enabled as well [19:54] soreau: humm, I'll check it. ty [19:58] soreau: you seem to be decent unix-like system user, been on xubuntu/linux long? [19:58] just finished remastering an xubuntu with compiz/emerald setup all nice like :) [20:00] Sysi: Been using linux for about 6 years now.. I periodically test xfce but never really had a reason to use it over gnome until recently with gnome-shell and unity crap [20:00] does emerald work in 11.10? Or would I be better out with G-W-D? [20:00] Sysi: I dabble in compiz development.. recently I hacked emerald to work with latest compiz [20:01] 0.9.4 compiles ok, 0.9.5 doesnt. works fine tho.. I prefer to have a decent looking window theme [20:01] So emerald master should work in theory [20:01] soreau: heh, I hated old gnome, maybe because I started with xfce on old machine with little ram [20:01] it works in practice [20:01] mongy: I meant with compiz from 11.10 repos [20:01] soreau, im using compiz from 11.10 repos. [20:02] I think 3.2 fallback isn't too bad, some panel plugins maybe missing though [20:02] mongy: Why did you build compiz then? [20:02] soreau, emerald was removed though, so need to compile it. easy enough,. [20:02] I actually like gnome-shell pretty much [20:02] isn't emerald dead upstream? [20:02] soreau: sorry, I've lost my connection, I'll try now. [20:02] Sysi: officially, yes [20:03] Sysi, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1870792 [20:03] job done [20:06] mongy: That's not emerald master [20:06] soreau: dude, thank you! It's work! :D [20:06] fschuindt: Cool ;) [20:07] I'm not really fan of emerald, I can use gtk-window-decorator if it works [20:07] fschuindt: Make sure to enable move and resize plugins and probably place and a switcher as well [20:07] soreau: ok [20:07] yea, emerald is pretty buggy after years of bitrot [20:07] soreau, ah. well it works for me so I use it. could never get any other decorator to work with compiz. [20:07] It's amazing it still works [20:08] mongy: gtk-w-d should work fine [20:08] soreau, should, but doesn't. not for me [20:08] mongy: What happens if you start it with gtk-window-decorator --replace? [20:09] not installed anymore. clean installed already with compiz/emerald. works fine so no reason to change [20:09] Well for the record, it works fine [20:10] If you weren't able to get it working, you were doing it wrong ;) [20:10] I'll try it again then. [20:12] where is it now? [20:12] cant see it in repo [20:12] !find gtk-window-decorator [20:12] File gtk-window-decorator found in compiz-gnome, gnome-orca [20:13] I guess they packaged it in compiz-gnome [20:13] ah [20:14] ugh. now how do I set a window theme [20:14] I cant set anything in settings [20:17] I'll stick to emerald. it works perfectly fine [20:19] g-w-d uses theme set in gconf [20:20] mongy: If there's no way to change the gtk theme, you'd have to specify gtk-window-decorator --replace --metacity-theme THEME [20:20] or possibly use gconf.. [20:20] I think gnome-tweak-tool works [20:21] prolly [20:21] oneiric installation running in vbox.. [20:21] omeiric updating.. [20:22] ..I selected to install CLI system because I thought that was kubuntu image but I think it was xubuntu after all [20:22] I told it to download updates while installing and it did, but after I booted it I still have to do updates *shrug* [20:22] that --metacity command makes it work.. still think I'll stick with emerald on this one [20:23] mongy: The point was, that gtk-w-d is certainly not broken [20:23] emerald has varying degrees of breakage, depending on which theme and rendering engine used [20:24] well now I know what was stopping me using it.. but I dont really wanna install tweak tools to change theme. besides, I like what I have. [20:25] not had an issue with it yet. only really used 1 theme for a lengthy period. [20:38] mhm, ctrl alt F$Nr doesn't work on virtualbox even if keys are captured [20:38] thats why I install ssh in em [20:39] so you can ssh from other virtual machine? [20:40] oh, there's port forwarding too [20:40] bridged networking for ease of use... [20:40] port forwarding otherwise yeah [20:40] I think that didn't work but it was on os x [21:04] hey guys, is there a way to set unlimited scrollback in xfce4-terminal? [21:04] in gnome-terminal there was a checkbox.. I am thinking maybe set 0 or -1 for unlimited? [21:04] (for scrollback lines in terminal settings) [21:05] I don't see the string 'scroll' anywhere in the manpage [21:06] soreau: I think you can only set a very large number in the 'scroll lines' in preferences [21:08] Is there a gui for editing the menu like alacarte in gnome? [21:09] alacarte works [21:13] apparently the max is 5242880 [21:13] that's pretty much [21:14] soreau: I wonder what happens when you set it to 0 [21:15] how much dependencies would isntalling gnome-terminal requite? [21:15] require* [21:15] my typing today, ugh [21:16] should't be too much, at least with --no-install-recommends [21:21] thunar expands its colums to fit automatically but does not shrink them later.. any way to do that? [21:21] columns* damnit [21:34] hey all, is there a pref I'm missing in Thunar for open/save dialogs to default to something other than the Recently Used search? [21:42] babble: I think they're not thunar but gtk-filechooser [21:43] Sysi: oooh, keen. Is there a pref I can edit for it, somewhere? [21:43] Sysi: if I could get open/save to start in home, even, that would be okay [21:52] ok, hmm, what does file_chooser_backend in gconf do? (in desktop > gnome > interface)? (is it relevant for xfce?) === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [22:42] Can someone help me fix the weather panel applet? It refuses to update [22:44] are you connected to the internet? [22:45] of course [22:46] error messages? [22:46] tried removing/adding etc? [22:46] soreau, the package refuses to update or the content refuses to update? [22:47] knome: The content, sorry [22:47] soreau, that's known bug, and afaik there is no fix in the repositories yet. [22:47] sp4z: I tried restarting the panel, updating the system and removing/readding it. Same behavior in live session [22:47] hello [22:48] knome: Well that's not good to hear. Is there a related bug report open? [22:48] :( [22:48] I just ran apt-get install xubuntu-desktop on my Ubuntu 11.10 install, and then I started a Xubuntu-session. But now the resolution is *really* low (800x600). I want that on 1920x1200. Where can I change that? I can't seam to find it in the menu... :S [22:49] soreau, most probably yes, and it's being worked on upstream, but afaik they have no definite fix for that either [22:50] I don't see the point in shipping a broken applet.. [22:50] Cybertinus, settings -> settings manager -> display [22:50] soreau, it got broken after release. it's not about the plugins code, it's about the service provider not providing any more information with the api key they have used. [22:50] knome: Is there a third party applet that provides this functionality? [22:50] i suppose there are other plugins that work, but i don't use any myself, so i'm unable to point to any [22:51] knome: aaaaahhhh. Thnx. *Much* better [22:51] knome: So you're telling me it works upstream but it's broken by ubuntu packaging? [22:51] soreau: if you search "xfce weather applet bug" in google, you'll find plenty of solutions and detailed explanation about it's brokenness [22:52] soreau, no, it doesn't work even upstream perfectly. no, it's not a ubuntu packaging issue. [22:52] Sysi: ok thanks [22:52] knome: I confused the settings-manager with the config-manager. I did open the config-manager, but it wasn't in there :p [22:52] soreau, the applet broke for everyone. [22:52] Cybertinus, yeah, that's for different things ;) [23:04] hey guys, rookie linux user needs some help [23:05] http://paste.ubuntu.com/774762/ [23:05] i am trying to get my dlink wireless working [23:16] joshuas-dad: Do you have a wireless interface shown in the output of iwconfig?