| Riddell | yofel: hmm, plasma-desktop now uses kactivities on the linker command line but it doesn't actually link to it | 00:52 |
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| Riddell | weird, uploaded to ppa anyway to let others check | 00:52 |
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| Riddell | erk, new KDE tagging this week, and I haven't even finished with the last one | 15:41 |
| Riddell | still next one should be pretty simple in comparison | 15:41 |
| Riddell | wish I had written the clever cloud compiling scripts I wanted to do but I need to learn a bit more about scripting ec2 etc first | 15:42 |
| apachelogger | what we need is CI-style packaging :P | 15:45 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: CI-style packaging? | 15:52 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: well, continous packaging | 15:52 |
| apachelogger | that would allow release packaging to be done in less than a day | 15:52 |
| ScottK | 4.7.4 didn't take me very long. | 15:59 |
| ScottK | It's not hard to do it quickly when the content of what you're packaging is stable. | 15:59 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: hence the continouity | 16:20 |
| apachelogger | break up the big change into a couple of small ones | 16:20 |
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| apachelogger | ScottK: do you by any chance have an unused machine? I did a halfway OBS setup some time ago and am somewhat confident that we could put an OBS in front of our ARM farm and make the arm machines nodes to OBS | 17:25 |
| ScottK | What kind of machine would it need to be? | 17:29 |
| ScottK | I don't have an extra at the moment, but I might in the next month or two. | 17:29 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: nothing fancy, from what I gather it'd only need to run mysql, some web server and a couple of obs daemons | 17:31 |
| ScottK | Could it run Ubuntu or would it have to be opensuse? | 17:33 |
| apachelogger | ubuntu | 17:36 |
| apachelogger | though to be perfectly honest, if we were to use the opensuse appliance deployment would be loads easier | 17:36 |
| ScottK | OK. | 17:36 |
| apachelogger | though it might be a good excuse to get an OBS ppa started ^^ | 17:37 |
| ScottK | I need to reinstall them anyway. I was thinking it might be a good time to switch them to armhf. | 17:37 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: you're looking for a spare machine? | 19:29 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: It needs to be at my house. | 19:40 |
| ScottK | Just updated 4.7.4 in the updates PPA with some post-4.7.4 patches that looked like things we'd want. | 19:41 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: send a machine to ScottK :P | 19:54 |
| apachelogger | debfx: your patch aint in kdelibs!!! | 20:02 |
| debfx | apachelogger: which patch? | 20:03 |
| apachelogger | rpath | 20:04 |
| debfx | ah, don't complain to me about that | 20:04 |
| apachelogger | you be filing review requests that make no sense | 20:07 |
| apachelogger | the file says "this shoot must be copynpastable" | 20:07 |
| apachelogger | and you propose changes that make it not copynpasteable | 20:07 |
| debfx | I don't follow | 20:10 |
| debfx | Riddell: what did rekonq/qtwebkit upstream say about their security support plans? | 20:14 |
| apachelogger | debfx: this change must be made in kdelibs | 20:18 |
| apachelogger | and then imported into phonon | 20:18 |
| debfx | I though you were talking about the kdelibs review request | 20:19 |
| apachelogger | I have a request pending for phonon | 20:22 |
| apachelogger | which I will not accept until that change was accepted into kdelibs | 20:22 |
| apachelogger | in particular because I have no clue about cmake | 20:22 |
| apachelogger | qmake for world domination! | 20:23 |
| Riddell | debfx: qtwebkit is going to keep doing it only in trunk which will be qt 5 only at some point. I need to reply to the tech-board list | 20:32 |
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| debfx | hm ok | 20:42 |
| debfx | I share jdstrand's doubts that we can maintain precise for 5 years because of the limited kde upstream support and the number of releases we'd have to support in parallel | 20:44 |
| ScottK | debfx: What do you mean? It's one additional release for the last two years. | 20:45 |
| Riddell | debfx: kde upstream support is fine, and certainly better than say gnome | 20:45 |
| ScottK | Security support of a Qt Webkit based browser, I agree is concerning. | 20:46 |
| Riddell | it is but it's nothing we haven't had in an LTS before and their policy is no different from say firefox's | 20:48 |
| ScottK | Right, but there's no full time security staff to keep yet another web browser up to date in Main. | 20:49 |
| debfx | kde upstream will certainly not support 4.8 anymore in 5 years | 20:50 |
| debfx | firefox is continuously updated with new upstream versions in Ubuntu so it's totally different | 20:51 |
| Riddell | debfx: kde upstream do security releases for 12-18 months, that's never changed | 20:51 |
| debfx | yeah so how can we suddenly support kde for another 2 years? | 20:52 |
| Riddell | well just like every other LTS, and just like every bit of software in main which doesn't have reliable security support. gnome for example. | 20:54 |
| ScottK | There aren't that many security issues in KDE. The recent spate of SSL cert validation issues is an exception that should pass. | 20:54 |
| ScottK | Also I think jdstrand's complaining about wanting Kubuntu to be supported like other flavors misses the fact that KDE is in Main. | 20:55 |
| Riddell | isn't that Qt only? nokia does security patches for that and KDE upstream richmoore is happy | 20:55 |
| ScottK | IIRC there were also a few places in KDE that got hit, but I may misremember. | 20:56 |
| Riddell | and that Kubuntu is also a commercial product of canonical | 20:56 |
| ScottK | Yes. | 20:56 |
| ScottK | (someone who works for Canonical should probably quietly remind him of this) | 20:56 |
| Riddell | yeah needs me to get to my e-mail | 20:57 |
| ScottK | It's also be somewhat tough to go 5 years for Ubuntu desktop support and then drop support for a lot of apps in Main that people use (like ones from KDE). | 20:58 |
| bulldog98 | Riddell: pim-runtime override error /usr/share/dbus-1/interfaces/org.kde.Akonadi.MixedMaildir.Settings.xml is also in the -dev | 21:32 |
| bulldog98 | 4:4.6.0-0ubuntu1~ppa2 | 21:32 |
| Riddell | bulldog98: ta | 21:52 |
| Riddell | what's the script to rebuild something in a PPA? | 23:30 |
| u2san | is kubuntu precise dead? | 23:44 |
| Riddell | u2san: ? it's not even released yet | 23:45 |
| u2san | seems the other flavors are on the 20-30 % done kubuntu is only at 4% | 23:45 |
| Riddell | I'm was nearly dead so that's why I haven't been doing my % but the PPA is coming along | 23:47 |
| u2san | just wondering bec the status is RED vs the others | 23:47 |
| Riddell | it's been slower than I'd like but there are good reason for that | 23:48 |
| u2san | when you say PPA is coming along does it means 4.8 is there? | 23:58 |
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