[00:52] <Riddell> yofel: hmm, plasma-desktop now uses kactivities on the linker command line but it doesn't actually link to it
[00:52] <Riddell> weird, uploaded to ppa anyway to let others check
[15:41] <Riddell> erk, new KDE tagging this week, and I haven't even finished with the last one
[15:41] <Riddell> still next one should be pretty simple in comparison
[15:42] <Riddell> wish I had written the clever cloud compiling scripts I wanted to do but I need to learn a bit more about scripting ec2 etc first
[15:45] <apachelogger> what we need is CI-style packaging :P
[15:52] <Riddell> apachelogger: CI-style packaging?
[15:52] <apachelogger> Riddell: well, continous packaging
[15:52] <apachelogger> that would allow release packaging to be done in less than a day
[15:59] <ScottK> 4.7.4 didn't take me very long.
[15:59] <ScottK> It's not hard to do it quickly when the content of what you're packaging is stable.
[16:20] <apachelogger> ScottK: hence the continouity
[16:20] <apachelogger> break up the big change into a couple of small ones
[17:25] <apachelogger> ScottK: do you by any chance have an unused machine? I did a halfway OBS setup some time ago and am somewhat confident that we could put an OBS in front of our ARM farm and make the arm machines nodes to OBS
[17:29] <ScottK> What kind of machine would it need to be?
[17:29] <ScottK> I don't have an extra at the moment, but I might in the next month or two.
[17:31] <apachelogger> ScottK: nothing fancy, from what I gather it'd only need to run mysql, some web server and a couple of obs daemons
[17:33] <ScottK> Could it run Ubuntu or would it have to be opensuse?
[17:36] <apachelogger> ubuntu
[17:36] <apachelogger> though to be perfectly honest, if we were to use the opensuse appliance deployment would be loads easier
[17:36] <ScottK> OK.
[17:37] <apachelogger> though it might be a good excuse to get an OBS ppa started ^^
[17:37] <ScottK> I need to reinstall them anyway.  I was thinking it might be a good time to switch them to armhf.
[19:29] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: you're looking for a spare machine?
[19:40] <ScottK> shadeslayer: It needs to be at my house.
[19:41] <ScottK> Just updated 4.7.4 in the updates PPA with some post-4.7.4 patches that looked like things we'd want.
[19:54] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: send a machine to ScottK :P
[20:02] <apachelogger> debfx: your patch aint in kdelibs!!!
[20:03] <debfx> apachelogger: which patch?
[20:04] <apachelogger> rpath
[20:04] <debfx> ah, don't complain to me about that
[20:07] <apachelogger> you be filing review requests that make no sense
[20:07] <apachelogger> the file says "this shoot must be copynpastable"
[20:07] <apachelogger> and you propose changes that make it not copynpasteable
[20:10] <debfx> I don't follow
[20:14] <debfx> Riddell: what did rekonq/qtwebkit upstream say about their security support plans?
[20:18] <apachelogger> debfx: this change must be made in kdelibs
[20:18] <apachelogger> and then imported into phonon
[20:19] <debfx> I though you were talking about the kdelibs review request
[20:22] <apachelogger> I have a request pending for phonon
[20:22] <apachelogger> which I will not accept until that change was accepted into kdelibs
[20:22] <apachelogger> in particular because I have no clue about cmake
[20:23] <apachelogger> qmake for world domination!
[20:32] <Riddell> debfx: qtwebkit is going to keep doing it only in trunk which will be qt 5 only at some point.  I need to reply to the tech-board list
[20:42] <debfx> hm ok
[20:44] <debfx> I share jdstrand's doubts that we can maintain precise for 5 years because of the limited kde upstream support and the number of releases we'd have to support in parallel
[20:45] <ScottK> debfx: What do you mean?  It's one additional release for the last two years.
[20:45] <Riddell> debfx: kde upstream  support is fine, and certainly better than say gnome
[20:46] <ScottK> Security support of a Qt Webkit based browser, I agree is concerning.
[20:48] <Riddell> it is but it's nothing we haven't had in an LTS before and their policy is no different from say firefox's
[20:49] <ScottK> Right, but there's no full time security staff to keep yet another web browser up to date in Main.
[20:50] <debfx> kde upstream will certainly not support 4.8 anymore in 5 years
[20:51] <debfx> firefox is continuously updated with new upstream versions in Ubuntu so it's totally different
[20:51] <Riddell> debfx: kde upstream do security releases for 12-18 months, that's never changed
[20:52] <debfx> yeah so how can we suddenly support kde for another 2 years?
[20:54] <Riddell> well just like every other LTS, and just like every bit of software in main which doesn't have reliable security support.  gnome for example.
[20:54] <ScottK> There aren't that many security issues in KDE.  The recent spate of SSL cert validation issues is an exception that should pass.
[20:55] <ScottK> Also I think jdstrand's complaining about wanting Kubuntu to be supported like other flavors misses the fact that KDE is in Main.
[20:55] <Riddell> isn't that Qt only?  nokia does security patches for that and KDE upstream richmoore is happy
[20:56] <ScottK> IIRC there were also a few places in KDE that got hit, but I may misremember.
[20:56] <Riddell> and that Kubuntu is also a commercial product of canonical
[20:56] <ScottK> Yes.
[20:56] <ScottK> (someone who works for Canonical should probably quietly remind him of this)
[20:57] <Riddell> yeah needs me to get to my e-mail
[20:58] <ScottK> It's also be somewhat tough to go 5 years for Ubuntu desktop support and then drop support for a lot of apps in Main that people use (like ones from KDE).
[21:32] <bulldog98> Riddell: pim-runtime override error /usr/share/dbus-1/interfaces/org.kde.Akonadi.MixedMaildir.Settings.xml is also in the -dev
[21:32] <bulldog98> 4:4.6.0-0ubuntu1~ppa2
[21:52] <Riddell> bulldog98: ta
[23:30] <Riddell> what's the script to rebuild something in a PPA?
[23:44] <u2san> is kubuntu precise dead?
[23:45] <Riddell> u2san: ?  it's not even released yet
[23:45] <u2san> seems the other flavors are on the 20-30 % done kubuntu is only at 4%
[23:47] <Riddell> I'm was nearly dead so that's why I haven't been doing my % but the PPA is coming along
[23:47] <u2san> just wondering bec the status is RED vs the others
[23:48] <Riddell> it's been slower than I'd like but there are good reason for that
[23:58] <u2san> when you say PPA is coming along does it means 4.8 is there?