[00:52] yofel: hmm, plasma-desktop now uses kactivities on the linker command line but it doesn't actually link to it [00:52] weird, uploaded to ppa anyway to let others check === anderson is now known as 64MAACGB6 === JackyAlcine is now known as EvilJackyAlcine === EvilJackyAlcine is now known as JackyAlcine === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh === yofel_ is now known as yofel === nigelb_ is now known as nigelb === micahg_ is now known as micahg [15:41] erk, new KDE tagging this week, and I haven't even finished with the last one [15:41] still next one should be pretty simple in comparison [15:42] wish I had written the clever cloud compiling scripts I wanted to do but I need to learn a bit more about scripting ec2 etc first [15:45] what we need is CI-style packaging :P [15:52] apachelogger: CI-style packaging? [15:52] Riddell: well, continous packaging [15:52] that would allow release packaging to be done in less than a day [15:59] 4.7.4 didn't take me very long. [15:59] It's not hard to do it quickly when the content of what you're packaging is stable. [16:20] ScottK: hence the continouity [16:20] break up the big change into a couple of small ones === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 [17:25] ScottK: do you by any chance have an unused machine? I did a halfway OBS setup some time ago and am somewhat confident that we could put an OBS in front of our ARM farm and make the arm machines nodes to OBS [17:29] What kind of machine would it need to be? [17:29] I don't have an extra at the moment, but I might in the next month or two. [17:31] ScottK: nothing fancy, from what I gather it'd only need to run mysql, some web server and a couple of obs daemons [17:33] Could it run Ubuntu or would it have to be opensuse? [17:36] ubuntu [17:36] though to be perfectly honest, if we were to use the opensuse appliance deployment would be loads easier [17:36] OK. [17:37] though it might be a good excuse to get an OBS ppa started ^^ [17:37] I need to reinstall them anyway. I was thinking it might be a good time to switch them to armhf. [19:29] apachelogger: you're looking for a spare machine? [19:40] shadeslayer: It needs to be at my house. [19:41] Just updated 4.7.4 in the updates PPA with some post-4.7.4 patches that looked like things we'd want. [19:54] shadeslayer: send a machine to ScottK :P [20:02] debfx: your patch aint in kdelibs!!! [20:03] apachelogger: which patch? [20:04] rpath [20:04] ah, don't complain to me about that [20:07] you be filing review requests that make no sense [20:07] the file says "this shoot must be copynpastable" [20:07] and you propose changes that make it not copynpasteable [20:10] I don't follow [20:14] Riddell: what did rekonq/qtwebkit upstream say about their security support plans? [20:18] debfx: this change must be made in kdelibs [20:18] and then imported into phonon [20:19] I though you were talking about the kdelibs review request [20:22] I have a request pending for phonon [20:22] which I will not accept until that change was accepted into kdelibs [20:22] in particular because I have no clue about cmake [20:23] qmake for world domination! [20:32] debfx: qtwebkit is going to keep doing it only in trunk which will be qt 5 only at some point. I need to reply to the tech-board list === santiago-ve is now known as foursixnine [20:42] hm ok [20:44] I share jdstrand's doubts that we can maintain precise for 5 years because of the limited kde upstream support and the number of releases we'd have to support in parallel [20:45] debfx: What do you mean? It's one additional release for the last two years. [20:45] debfx: kde upstream support is fine, and certainly better than say gnome [20:46] Security support of a Qt Webkit based browser, I agree is concerning. [20:48] it is but it's nothing we haven't had in an LTS before and their policy is no different from say firefox's [20:49] Right, but there's no full time security staff to keep yet another web browser up to date in Main. [20:50] kde upstream will certainly not support 4.8 anymore in 5 years [20:51] firefox is continuously updated with new upstream versions in Ubuntu so it's totally different [20:51] debfx: kde upstream do security releases for 12-18 months, that's never changed [20:52] yeah so how can we suddenly support kde for another 2 years? [20:54] well just like every other LTS, and just like every bit of software in main which doesn't have reliable security support. gnome for example. [20:54] There aren't that many security issues in KDE. The recent spate of SSL cert validation issues is an exception that should pass. [20:55] Also I think jdstrand's complaining about wanting Kubuntu to be supported like other flavors misses the fact that KDE is in Main. [20:55] isn't that Qt only? nokia does security patches for that and KDE upstream richmoore is happy [20:56] IIRC there were also a few places in KDE that got hit, but I may misremember. [20:56] and that Kubuntu is also a commercial product of canonical [20:56] Yes. [20:56] (someone who works for Canonical should probably quietly remind him of this) [20:57] yeah needs me to get to my e-mail [20:58] It's also be somewhat tough to go 5 years for Ubuntu desktop support and then drop support for a lot of apps in Main that people use (like ones from KDE). [21:32] Riddell: pim-runtime override error /usr/share/dbus-1/interfaces/org.kde.Akonadi.MixedMaildir.Settings.xml is also in the -dev [21:32] 4:4.6.0-0ubuntu1~ppa2 [21:52] bulldog98: ta [23:30] what's the script to rebuild something in a PPA? [23:44] is kubuntu precise dead? [23:45] u2san: ? it's not even released yet [23:45] seems the other flavors are on the 20-30 % done kubuntu is only at 4% [23:47] I'm was nearly dead so that's why I haven't been doing my % but the PPA is coming along [23:47] just wondering bec the status is RED vs the others [23:48] it's been slower than I'd like but there are good reason for that [23:58] when you say PPA is coming along does it means 4.8 is there?