[00:01] <Ravior> Is there another way to install updates other than through The Update Manager?
[00:01] <Charybdis> Ravior: Yup.
[00:02] <Charybdis> Ravior: Through the command line using apt-get.
[00:02] <FernandoMiguel> !apt-get
[00:02] <Ravior> sudo apt-get update?
[00:03] <Charybdis> Ravior: That will update the lists.
[00:03] <Charybdis> Ravior: sudo apt-get upgrade PACKAGENAME will upgrade individual packages.
[00:04] <Ravior> I'm not knowledgeable enough to install all packages manually
[00:04] <Ravior> there like 200 of them
[00:04] <Charybdis> Then you might use something like aptitude or synaptic.
[00:05] <Ravior> I'll try that
[00:05] <Ravior> Thanks!
[00:05] <Charybdis> Ravior: I think you can also do apt-get -u upgrade
[00:05] <Charybdis> I think.
[00:05] <Charybdis> Don't quote me.
[00:06] <Charybdis> I can't test it, because I'm up to date.
[00:07] <urlin2u> it's early in the release hope for no breaks but expect them.
[00:10] <urlin2u> Ravior, you know your on the pre-release channel right? you are running precise?
[00:10] <Ravior> Yes I am
[00:10] <Ravior> oh
[00:10] <Ravior> sudo apt-get -u upgrade worked
[00:10] <Ravior> Thanks a bunch! :D
[00:11] <Charybdis> You are welcome.
[07:06] <sagaci> clicking on the home folder icon in precise, is that supposed to spawn a nautilus seashell icon..?
[09:28] <pozic> Tm_T: hi, when do you grow a brain?
[09:30] <Tm_T> bwainssshhh
[09:44] <chand> Hi
[09:44] <bazhang> hi
[09:45] <chand> I can't get right keyboard layout in lightdm then X, I must use setxkbmap to set layout
[09:53] <iceroot> chand: or /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:53] <chand> iceroot, just empty
[09:53] <iceroot> chand: then fill it
[09:54] <iceroot> chand: x is reading all infos at boot from udev, if you want to overwrite the udev-settings use the xorg.conf
[09:54] <chand> ok i will set keyboard layout  in xorg.conf
[09:54] <chand> something wrong with udev
[09:55] <iceroot> chand: yes, i had the same issue some releases before and i used xorg.conf too
[10:49] <aguitel> i am running 12.04 ,trash have no icon
[10:49] <aguitel> this is a bug ?
[10:50] <iceroot> sounds like a bug
[10:51] <iceroot> !bug | aguitel
[10:51] <aguitel> iceroot, anyway to rebuild icons ?
[11:07] <Ian_Corne> apt-get install gnome-theme-icons-full
[11:07] <Ian_Corne> or something like that
[11:19] <aguitel> Ian_Corne, ok
[12:37] <BluesKaj> hey all
[14:27] <alex_mayorga> Happy to report that the blue/purple VAIO VPCCW1FFX/L seems to work with no major hiccups
[14:29] <Daekdroom> I think it's violet
[14:54] <alex_mayorga> Is there a way to make sure it is running "clean" pangolin?
[14:55] <Daekdroom> What do you mean by clean?
[15:17] <alex_mayorga> Daekdroom: confirm there no ocelot "leftovers"
[15:18] <Daekdroom> alex_mayorga, I think the most likely leftovers are banshee and mono libraries
[15:27] <alex_mayorga> Daekdroom: any known ways to clean up?
[15:28] <Daekdroom> alex_mayorga, besides manually removing packages, no
[15:41] <Daekdroom> Is there any way to check which processes are using harddrive i/o?
[15:50] <Daekdroom> Ugh. I think firefox is memory leaking
[15:51] <Daekdroom> After closing all tabs and opening my home page, it went from 600MiB to 280.
[15:53] <micahg> Daekdroom: yes, but there's work to improve it happening and it should be leaking less with each release, but that use case doesn't show it's leaking memory
[15:53] <micahg> more memory will be used as more tabs are open
[15:53] <Daekdroom> I closed all tabs and left my home page open.
[15:54] <Daekdroom> It was on 280 as opposed to the 120 it uses right when I start it.
[15:54] <micahg> ah, yeah, so that would be a small leak :)
[15:54] <micahg> you can go to about:memory to see what it's being used for
[15:54] <micahg> and file bugs upstream if you have a reproducible test case
[15:55] <micahg> Daekdroom: also see https://wiki.mozilla.org/Performance/MemShrink
[16:28] <keffie_jayx> hey after an dist-upgrade in 12.04 I seem to have lost multi-touch, any tips on how to get it back?
[16:31] <sskalnik> keffie_jayx:  Which packages were upgraded?
[16:38] <keffie_jayx> how can I check :P 70 packages were removed
[16:38] <keffie_jayx> sskalnik: I am sorry I am quite new at living on the edge :)
[16:42] <sskalnik> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[16:42] <sskalnik> cat /var/log/dpkg.log | pastebinit
[16:42] <sskalnik> !pastebin
[16:43] <keffie_jayx> sskalnik: thanks
[16:43] <sskalnik> Post a link to the results and we can see what had been installed or uninstalled.
[16:48] <keffie_jayx> sskalnik: What package could be missing..
[16:50] <sskalnik> keffie_jayx:  Paste a link to the contents of your /var/log/dpkg.log and we can see
[16:50] <keffie_jayx> long file just wanted to help :)
[16:51] <sskalnik> np
[16:51] <sskalnik> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/xf86-input-multitouch/1.0~rc2+git20110312-2
[16:52] <sskalnik> The multitouch package hasn't updated in over a month, so that is probably not the issue.
[16:56] <keffie_jayx> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/775479/
[16:56] <keffie_jayx> sskalnik: there long file
[16:58] <sskalnik> 2011-12-19 11:57:34 status installed gpointing-device-settings 1.5.1-6
[16:58] <sskalnik> That looks interesting
[16:58] <keffie_jayx> that was me
[16:58] <keffie_jayx> I installed it thinking that would make it work
[17:01] <sskalnik> OK. You're using KDE?
[17:02] <keffie_jayx> i have it installed
[17:02] <keffie_jayx> I use unity now
[17:03] <sskalnik> OK. I assume you've gone through the mouse settings in the Preferences menu?
[17:04] <keffie_jayx> Mouse and Touchpad settings
[17:05] <keffie_jayx> two finger scrolling is enabled
[17:06] <sskalnik> Rebooted since the upgrade today?
[17:07] <keffie_jayx> yep
[17:07] <keffie_jayx> the upgrade demanded a reboot
[17:07] <sskalnik> OK, so that's ruled out.
[17:07] <alex_mayorga> Daekdroom: try about:memory for Firefox "leaks"
[17:08] <Daekdroom> alex_mayorga, that I was told already.
[17:08] <alex_mayorga> Daekdroom: sorry, catching up :(
[17:08] <sskalnik> keffie_jayx:  I'm afraid I'm stumped on this one. You might check the forums or post there; usually more people can see your post and give a faster response.
[17:08] <Daekdroom> alex_mayorga, it happens to anyone.
[17:09] <keffie_jayx> sskalnik: thanks :)
[17:09] <alex_mayorga> so once I'm on precise, the proper way to stay "current" is apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, right?
[17:10] <sskalnik> alex_mayorga:  Yes
[17:10] <sskalnik> alex_mayorga:  Or apt-get dist-upgrade for kernel updates
[17:11] <alex_mayorga> sskalnik: thanks!
[17:11] <Pici> I'd expect more than just kernel upgrades to require using dist-upgrade on the alpha/beta.
[17:12] <alex_mayorga> how often is a dist-upgrade suggested?
[17:13] <Daekdroom> I try to do it everytime upgrade doesn't upgrade every package (but I don't do it when it breaks stuff)
[17:14] <keffie_jayx> It is hard to tell
[17:14] <keffie_jayx> usually python upgrades break predictably
[17:19] <keffie_jayx> sskalnik: Reading state information... Done
[17:19] <keffie_jayx> E: Unable to locate package xf86-input-multitouch
[17:20] <sskalnik> Pici:  You are correct; I oversimplified.
[17:21] <sskalnik> keffie_jayx:  That could be the issue right there.
[17:24] <sskalnik> "apt-cache search multitouch" does not bring up that package
[17:24] <sskalnik> Though it brings up others
[17:25] <sskalnik> Since Precise is in flux, that package may simply be unavailable at the moment. A similar thing happened a week or two ago for a package I needed. You may simply wait a day or two.
[17:33] <genii-around> I think the package is named xserver-xorg-input-multitouch
[17:38] <sskalnik> apt-cache search xf86-input-multitouch
[17:38] <sskalnik> xserver-xorg-input-mtrack - Multitouch X input driver
[17:38] <sskalnik> Indeed
[17:39] <keffie_jayx> sskalnik: excellent, shall wait a day
[17:40] <keffie_jayx> I remember this happening in the Natty beta cycle
[18:33] <alex_mayorga> is it normal for dbus-daemon to use 54% CPU? I only got Firefox and a XP VirtualBox
[18:36] <jelmer> alex_mayorga: no, that's not normal
[18:36] <jelmer> alex_mayorga: perhaps there is some process doing a lot of dbus communication - is there another process that is using a lot of CPU?
[19:08] <alex_mayorga> jelmer: plugin-container (most likely Flash) was hogging CPU
[19:09] <alex_mayorga> jelmer: I've killed the offending process, that apparently caused bug #906471 and caused the touch pad to become non responsive
[19:10] <alex_mayorga> dbus-daemon is still +50% CPU here
[19:10] <alex_mayorga> anyway to get my pointer back?
[19:15] <alex_mayorga> I would contend the duplicity of my bug
[19:18] <micahg> alex_mayorga: zeitgeist was doing it for me before, do you have an audio CD in your drive?
[19:19] <alex_mayorga> "synclient TouchpadOff=0" on a terminal got me my touch pad back
[19:20]  * alex_mayorga pops out the "cup hoder"
[19:20] <alex_mayorga> micahg: no CD, just dust
[19:24] <alex_mayorga> Can I de-duplicate what apport marked duplicate?