| chrisccoulson | hmmm, after looking at scrollbar stuff, i really want to poke my eyes out already | 00:14 |
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| micahg | chrisccoulson: did you want the 9.0 final builds to go to precise or are we just uploading 10 beta 1 when they're tagged? | 01:29 |
| joelesko | micahg: All my ppa build completed successfully for seamonkey 2.6. I sent up builds for lucid through precise. | 04:44 |
| micahg | joelesko: that's good news :), that means we should be ready to go on tuesday for precise at least and maybe oneiric | 04:44 |
| joelesko | micahg: Let me know where the test builds are when you create them. | 04:44 |
| joelesko | micahg: I'm using it on maverick and oneiric and not running across any problems. Is there some test scripts you use? | 04:45 |
| micahg | joelesko: ok, precise I'll just upload, ubuntu-mozilla-security will be where the oneiric build will go if I don't run out of time, otherwise, we can push next week when I'm off | 04:45 |
| joelesko | micahg: great. thanks. I sure would like to close those open bugs. | 04:46 |
| micahg | joelesko: yeah, we use test-browser.py from lp:qa-regression-testing (you need to run it in a clean env as it'll blow away your profile), I need to make a smaller set of test cases for the universe packages like chromium and seamonkey | 04:47 |
| micahg | joelesko: take a look at this blueprint which has the list of the limited test cases: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/security-p-catch-all, it's under security roundtable wednesday | 04:48 |
| micahg | joelesko: you'll need to test the binaries that are produced in the PPA though since that's what will be released | 04:48 |
| joelesko | micahg: That's the plan. I will pull then when ready. I have time this week. | 04:49 |
| micahg | cool | 04:49 |
| joelesko | lightning is current broke, right? | 04:50 |
| micahg | shouldn't be | 04:50 |
| micahg | you'll need to use the version from the thunderbird-next PPA | 04:50 |
| joelesko | I asked someone else because I didn't see the xpi on https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Calendar/Calendar_Versions | 04:51 |
| micahg | https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/tinderbox-builds/comm-beta/ | 04:51 |
| joelesko | thanks. Is thunderbird schedule for release soon as well? | 04:52 |
| micahg | we have 1.1 built in thunderbird-next (will be in ubuntu-mozilla-security tomorrow sometime) | 04:52 |
| micahg | er, only for oneiric that is | 04:52 |
| artnay | any news concerning chromium translations? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/888617 | 12:48 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 888617 in chromium-browser "Chromium translations on LP no longer updated" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 12:48 |
| artnay | I remember we spoke that once daily builds are active, translation templates would be next | 12:48 |
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| micahg | artnay: I have no idea what's involved in the chromium translations | 14:03 |
| artnay | chrisccoulson: hi. I thought I had spoken with micahg but it must have been you. | 14:07 |
| artnay | chrisccoulson: 14:48 artnay : any news concerning chromium translations? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/888617 | 14:07 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 888617 in chromium-browser "Chromium translations on LP no longer updated" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 14:07 |
| artnay | chrisccoulson: 14:48 artnay : I remember we spoke that once daily builds are active, translation templates would be next | 14:07 |
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| bjsnider | artnay, if i can do anything about this i'll take al ook at it today | 14:51 |
| artnay | bjsnider: that would be great, thanks in advance. | 15:07 |
| bjsnider | micahg, alright it seems that the change i mentioned recently does result in working chromium dbg packages, and it also seems like that's the only way to get it done, ie there's no more build flag. | 18:14 |
| alex_mayorga | timeless: hi! | 19:40 |
| alex_mayorga | timeless: I blame the slowness on resource:///components/nsPrompter.js:68 and chrome://global/content/bindings/browser.xml:273 on IRCCloud and Grooveshark fighting over Flash | 19:45 |
| alex_mayorga | timeless: I've fetched firefox-trunk-mozsymbols | 19:46 |
| timeless | can you figure out if/what it did, or what it claims to do? | 19:52 |
| timeless | (ask it for a description/contents) | 19:52 |
| alex_mayorga | timeless: sorry crashed Flash prevented me from seeing your messages | 19:57 |
| timeless | can you figure out if/what it did, or what it claims to do? | 19:57 |
| timeless | (ask it for a description/contents) | 19:57 |
| alex_mayorga | timeless: any chance you can get a fix for https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=699133 so I can at leas submit the crash? | 19:57 |
| ubot2 | Mozilla bug 699133 in General "No "Send crash report" link for Flash crashes on non visible Flash elements." [Normal,New: ] | 19:57 |
| alex_mayorga | "This package contains the Firefox symbols in a format expected by Mozilla's | 19:58 |
| alex_mayorga | Breakpad. Eventually this package should go away and the symbol upload be | 19:58 |
| alex_mayorga | implemented in soyuz (or other builders that build this package)" | 19:58 |
| alex_mayorga | sorry on the multi-line | 19:59 |
| timeless | doesn't bother me | 19:59 |
| timeless | ok, can you figure out if it really has symbols? if it does, the contents should be significant in terms of size | 19:59 |
| alex_mayorga | on this very channel I asked why the builds from this team PPA don't have about:crashes though, so that's another thing I'd need | 20:00 |
| timeless | if the package gives you symbols, you can use gdb | 20:01 |
| timeless | which is good enough for most things | 20:01 |
| alex_mayorga | Uncompressed Size: 142 k | 20:01 |
| timeless | the package should be >100mb if it's useful | 20:01 |
| micahg | Firefox can't fix a flash crash anyways, why would you want to report it? | 20:01 |
| timeless | what is it actually? | 20:01 |
| timeless | micahg: firefox is software, mozilla is an entity | 20:02 |
| micahg | timeless: right, sorry, Mozilla can't fix a flash crash :) | 20:02 |
| timeless | mozilla as an entity can help adobe review crash reports and fix bug reports | 20:02 |
| timeless | *if* they're collected | 20:02 |
| micahg | ah | 20:02 |
| timeless | similarly, microsoft will help just about any software vendor review and fix reports in their crashing software | 20:03 |
| timeless | (via WER) | 20:03 |
| alex_mayorga | micahg: IIRC there was a time were an "electrolisys" project existed and they valued the plugin-container crashes | 20:03 |
| timeless | alex_mayorga: the project still exists | 20:03 |
| timeless | although it's mostly focused on the next step which is irrelevant for flash crashes | 20:03 |
| timeless | but yes, plugin crashes are still valuable | 20:03 |
| timeless | but that's offtopic | 20:03 |
| timeless | we're here to try to get you symbols so we can get js stack traces for slow scripts w/o using firebug/venkman :) | 20:04 |
| micahg | alex_mayorga: plugin-container crash != flash crash | 20:04 |
| timeless | so, i don't care how few bytes the package has, figure out what files it has | 20:04 |
| timeless | micahg: sure, but 99% of the time it is the plugin that's crashing, and on linux, that's probably flash :) | 20:04 |
| chrisccoulson | if you want symbols, you need firefox-dbg or firefox-trunk-dbg | 20:16 |
| chrisccoulson | those are about 180MB ;) | 20:16 |
| * alex_mayorga catches up as he got his first Pangolin crash | 20:31 | |
| alex_mayorga | doing sudo apt-get install firefox-trunk-dbg | 20:33 |
| alex_mayorga | chrisccoulson: you told me the other day no about:crashes for the PPA, right? | 20:33 |
| chrisccoulson | alex_mayorga, yes. but we still have symbols if you want to use gdb | 20:34 |
| alex_mayorga | chrisccoulson: meet timeless of Mozilla's fame, perhaps something could be worked out to get the crashes on Socorro somehow | 20:35 |
| alex_mayorga | timeless: firefox-trunk-dbg is installed now, what would be my instructions? | 20:36 |
| timeless | for getting them uploaded, they should talk to ted / moznet | 20:41 |
| timeless | but, now that you have the -dbg package (yay), let's visit gdb | 20:41 |
| timeless | do you still have a slow script, or are we just doing it for practice? | 20:42 |
| timeless | (we can get a slow script if we need one) | 20:42 |
| alex_mayorga | timeless: I'm pretty sure I can reproduce the slow script if I try | 20:42 |
| timeless | ok, for now, let's ignore that, do you have firefox running? | 20:43 |
| timeless | (and can you get a terminal? :) | 20:43 |
| chrisccoulson | timeless, oh, i can upload them already. it's just that i'd be submitting about 400MB of symbols per day if i did it for all of our builds, which is why we only do it on beta + release builds currently | 20:43 |
| alex_mayorga | timeless: yup! | 20:43 |
| timeless | chrisccoulson: out of curiosity, do you pay for bandwidth? | 20:43 |
| timeless | (really curious) | 20:43 |
| timeless | alex_mayorga: alright, in the terminal: | 20:44 |
| timeless | ps aux|grep firefox-bin | 20:44 |
| * timeless has no idea how magically hacked the ubuntu firefox is | 20:44 | |
| timeless | we'll see shortly :) | 20:44 |
| chrisccoulson | timeless, i don't pay for the bandwidth, and i upload the symbols automatically from a job in our datacenter anyway | 20:45 |
| alex_mayorga | timeless: edited a bit to ps aux|grep firefox-trunk | 20:45 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm more concerned about disk usage on the other end :) | 20:45 |
| timeless | alex_mayorga: don't :) | 20:46 |
| timeless | really, if they're underprovisioned, they need to fix it anyway | 20:46 |
| alex_mayorga | timeless: the ps you suggested comes back blank | 20:46 |
| timeless | they need to have different aging policy for different kinds of packages (nightlies, alphas, etc) | 20:46 |
| timeless | and i'm fairly certain they do | 20:46 |
| timeless | getting crash reports for your builds would enable them to understand more about how they're used too | 20:47 |
| alex_mayorga | if I use firefox-trunk I get 2373 as my main suspect | 20:47 |
| timeless | alex_mayorga: ok | 20:47 |
| timeless | gdb -p 2373 | 20:47 |
| alex_mayorga | timeless: bear in mind I'm using "Nightly" from ppa here | 20:47 |
| timeless | at this point, a piratepad will be helpful | 20:47 |
| timeless | alex_mayorga: yeah, sure | 20:47 |
| timeless | my steps are designed to let me slowly work out the quirks of your build | 20:47 |
| timeless | e.g. there's no -bin file, and thus there's no .sh script which would accept magic commands | 20:48 |
| timeless | if you used a mozilla official thing, we'd use firefox -d gdb -g | 20:48 |
| alex_mayorga | timeless: I see | 20:48 |
| timeless | (or specify a different debugger w/ -d ...) | 20:48 |
| chrisccoulson | you should be able to do that with ours too | 20:48 |
| chrisccoulson | although, we rename the binary for our nightly build to make it coinstallable with the release builds | 20:48 |
| chrisccoulson | (so, firefox-trunk -g will work fine) | 20:49 |
| timeless | ok, so, in that case, 2373 may be the wrong answer | 20:49 |
| timeless | if you have a firefox-trunk-bin | 20:49 |
| timeless | we generally want the -bin process if one exists | 20:49 |
| alex_mayorga | timeless: got some form of permission thing with your command, sudo gdb -p 2373 did the trick | 20:51 |
| alex_mayorga | 0x00007fa090e8c753 in __GI___poll (fds=<optimized out>, nfds=<optimized out>, | 20:51 |
| alex_mayorga | timeout=<optimized out>) at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/poll.c:87 | 20:51 |
| alex_mayorga | 87../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/poll.c: No such file or directory. | 20:51 |
| alex_mayorga | in ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/poll.c | 20:51 |
| timeless | alex_mayorga: so... | 20:52 |
| timeless | if you're debugging a shell script, the wrong thing happened | 20:52 |
| alex_mayorga | firefox-trunk is grayed out, locked not responsive to mouse or keyboard input | 20:52 |
| timeless | and it's moderately painful for me to figure out if that's the case | 20:52 |
| timeless | i'd typically use pstree |grep -C 10 2373 | 20:52 |
| timeless | if there are children other than plugin-container, then it's the wrong process) | 20:52 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg, did you forget to push a commit to lp:~mozillateam/thunderbird/thunderbird.oneiric? | 20:53 |
| chrisccoulson | (ie, the last release tag) :) | 20:53 |
| timeless | alex_mayorga: anyway, try "info shar" | 20:54 |
| * timeless tries to remember how to speak gdb w/o finding a linux env | 20:54 | |
| alex_mayorga | timeless: http://piratepad.net/c3berohKLm | 20:55 |
| alex_mayorga | how do I get the dbg of firefox-trunk dependencies "automagically"? does anyone know? | 21:05 |
| timeless | (i've definitely seen/used a script that did it, but it was ages ago) | 21:06 |
| chrisccoulson | lol, i can hear my daughter snoring over the baby monitor | 21:13 |
| timeless | that's a good thing | 21:13 |
| alex_mayorga | chrisccoulson: lovely :) | 21:13 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i feel more relaxed when i can hear her ;) | 21:13 |
| timeless | earlier today i could hear someone else's daughter wailing through the corridor (much less pleasant) | 21:14 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, that's not so nice :( | 21:14 |
| alex_mayorga | timeless: done fetching -dbgs here | 21:25 |
| timeless | :) | 21:27 |
| timeless | ok, time to get a slow script dialog | 21:27 |
| timeless | you can be lazy and use this one: | 21:27 |
| timeless | javascript:while(1); | 21:27 |
| timeless | (hardly useful, but hey...) | 21:28 |
| timeless | anyway.. you should get a slow script dialog for that (i did) | 21:30 |
| alex_mayorga | timeless: that in the URL bar? | 21:30 |
| timeless | sure | 21:30 |
| alex_mayorga | timeless: what now in gdb? | 21:32 |
| alex_mayorga | the slow script is there | 21:32 |
| timeless | ^C / ^{break} | 21:33 |
| * timeless is busy downloading symbols for firefox (which is hosting irc cloud) | 21:33 | |
| timeless | btw: you don't generally want to debug your irc client. it tends to die :) | 21:34 |
| alex_mayorga | timeless: pretty much the same thing | 21:36 |
| alex_mayorga | Program received signal SIGINT, Interrupt. | 21:36 |
| alex_mayorga | 0x00007fa090e8c753 in __GI___poll (fds=<optimized out>, nfds=<optimized out>, | 21:36 |
| alex_mayorga | timeout=<optimized out>) at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/poll.c:87 | 21:36 |
| alex_mayorga | 87../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/poll.c: No such file or directory. | 21:36 |
| alex_mayorga | in ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/poll.c | 21:36 |
| timeless | yeah, the top frame will always be useless for this | 21:36 |
| timeless | the hope is that in the middle you'll see more useful stuff, hold on | 21:36 |
| timeless | oh right. it's a bad idea to copy text from firefox and paste it into your debugger | 21:39 |
| timeless | (if your debugger is debugging firefox..) | 21:39 |
| chrisccoulson | what problem are you trying to debug? | 21:40 |
| alex_mayorga | chrisccoulson: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=11568785#p11568785 | 21:41 |
| chrisccoulson | if the top of the stack is a poll(), then the rest of it is usually not all that useful :) | 21:41 |
| alex_mayorga | I'm seeing slow resource:///components/nsPrompter.js:68 and chrome://global/content/bindings/browser.xml:273 when CPU is raced | 21:42 |
| timeless | the other thing is that it's quite likely you're looking at the wrong thread | 21:42 |
| * timeless was debugging the debugger instead of firefox (oops) | 21:42 | |
| alex_mayorga | that's the symptom I get at least | 21:42 |
| timeless | ok, now i have a debugger (64bit) debugging firefox (32bit) | 21:43 |
| * timeless gets slow script dialog (yay) | 21:44 | |
| timeless | ok, so,.... the brute force command is: | 21:45 |
| timeless | thread apply all bt | 21:45 |
| timeless | the windbg equiv fwiw is: ~* kp | 21:45 |
| timeless | (thread) (all) (backtrace) (somewhat verbose) | 21:45 |
| timeless | in general, for a slow script, you're probably going to want the ui thread, which is generally thread 0 | 21:46 |
| timeless | but from memory gdb's concept of threads isn't virtualized, so you actually have to think about them by their underlying representation instead of "the zeroth thread" | 21:46 |
| timeless | anyway, we can try to work wih certain constraints | 21:49 |
| * timeless pokes alex_mayorga | 21:51 | |
| * alex_mayorga pokes the mostly death laptop with a stick | 21:53 | |
| alex_mayorga | timeless: I've got the nsPrompter.js right here | 21:54 |
| alex_mayorga | what do I do in dbg? | 21:54 |
| timeless | (gdb) thread apply all bt | 21:54 |
| timeless | hrm | 21:54 |
| timeless | (gdb) thread apply all bt 1000 | 21:54 |
| timeless | let's not let it be annoying | 21:55 |
| timeless | if possible, try to make gdb think you have many lines on your screen so that you don't have to hit <enter> to continue (don't ask me how to do that) | 21:55 |
| * timeless pokes alex_mayorga | 22:18 | |
| alex_mayorga | timeless: trying but this thing is very unresponsive | 22:44 |
| timeless | how much ram do you have? :) | 22:44 |
| alex_mayorga | 4GB | 22:45 |
| timeless | how much is free? :) | 22:50 |
| alex_mayorga | total used free shared buffers cached | 22:52 |
| alex_mayorga | Mem: 4016412 3902520 113892 0 864 87176 | 22:52 |
| alex_mayorga | about 1 GB I think | 22:52 |
| chrisccoulson | more like 100MB, unless my eyes are deceiving me ;) | 22:53 |
| alex_mayorga | chrisccoulson: I trust any third party, rather than myself :) | 22:55 |
| alex_mayorga | http://piratepad.net/c3berohKLm should be it | 22:55 |
| alex_mayorga | I got to run now | 22:55 |
| alex_mayorga | would let it sit here see if has exploded when I come back ;-) | 22:56 |
| timeless | alex_mayorga: ok, so, the section i left in purple is the interesting bit | 23:05 |
| timeless | the next bit is to see if we can use the xpconnect stack dumping stuff, if not, we'll have to do it the hard way | 23:05 |
| timeless | alex_mayorga: i left notes at the bottom | 23:14 |
| timeless | they should work, i hope | 23:14 |
| timeless | (right, selecting "continue" for slow script for while(1) isn't a good idea...) | 23:16 |
| chrisccoulson | lol @ https://twitter.com/#!/deadsquid/status/148902812783349760 | 23:20 |
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