pangolin | hello mazda01 how can i help you? | 01:41 |
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mazda01 | how do I use whois in xchat? or is this the wrong place to ask? | 02:00 |
CarlFK | wrong place | 02:01 |
mazda01 | ok, sorry. goodbye | 02:01 |
CarlFK | no prob | 02:01 |
stu-2 | hi my ubuntu crashed the other day now i get a message that my profile has not loaded properly what does it all mean? | 04:21 |
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bazhang | whoops sorry | 09:18 |
ikonia | it's fine, the guy does this all the time | 09:19 |
pozic | ikonia: are you out of your freaking mind? | 09:19 |
ikonia | pozic: every time you are in #ubuntu you cause a problem with your ranting | 09:19 |
pozic | ikonia: let me guess: you are affiliated with Canonical? | 09:19 |
ikonia | pozic: if the distro does not meet your needs, change distros | 09:19 |
ikonia | pozic: if the distro does meet your needs and you want help, then ask and we can try to help | 09:19 |
pozic | ikonia: uhm, just because Ubuntu sucks, doesn't mean I cannot say that it does. | 09:19 |
ikonia | pozic: sure it does | 09:19 |
pozic | ikonia: I did ask for help. | 09:20 |
pozic | ikonia: the help quality just sucked. | 09:20 |
ikonia | pozic: it's a support channel, you adding "ubuntu sucks" isn't helpful to anyone | 09:20 |
pozic | ikonia: because I still have the problem. | 09:20 |
ikonia | pozic: then don't use the channel, everytime you are in #ubuntu you cause a problem, | 09:20 |
pozic | ikonia: I think you are just an ASSHOLE, and nothing else if you have this attitude.\ | 09:20 |
pozic | Ubuntu has multiple bugs open. | 09:20 |
pozic | Are you saying it is the fault of those users? | 09:20 |
ikonia | it has many bugs and problems | 09:20 |
pozic | No, the software sucks. Period. | 09:20 |
ikonia | then don't use it | 09:20 |
pozic | You shouldn't ban me for pointing out flaws. | 09:21 |
ikonia | I didn't | 09:21 |
pozic | Well, _someone_ did. | 09:21 |
ikonia | however you are adding no value with your comments. | 09:21 |
pozic | ikonia: yes, I am adding value. | 09:21 |
ikonia | you where warned enough times on this occasion and you've had warnings in the past | 09:21 |
pozic | ikonia: because I am saying that it doesn't work. | 09:21 |
ikonia | so I'm tried of giving you warnings | 09:21 |
pozic | ikonia: so, that is feedback. | 09:21 |
ikonia | no it's not | 09:21 |
pozic | ikonia: at this moment, Canonical QA personal should FIX the issue. | 09:22 |
ikonia | feedback would be logging the bugs, updating them, pushing them through | 09:22 |
ikonia | sat in #ubuntu saying "ubuntu sucks" isn't | 09:22 |
pozic | ikonia: I am sure that someone could reproduce the problem with the information I gave them. | 09:22 |
ikonia | I'm sure they could | 09:22 |
ikonia | but why would they want to | 09:22 |
pozic | ikonia: exactly. | 09:23 |
pozic | They do not want to provide bug free software. | 09:23 |
ikonia | log a bug | 09:23 |
ikonia | put as much detail in the bug as possible | 09:23 |
ikonia | push the bug through | 09:23 |
pozic | Because that would destroy their business model. | 09:23 |
ikonia | ok - whatever, this conversation is done | 09:23 |
pozic | That's why Linux will never succeed. | 09:23 |
ikonia | pozic: until you can contribute to the channel, you're not going to be allowed into the channel | 09:23 |
pozic | There is not reason to make it good. | 09:23 |
ikonia | good bye | 09:23 |
pozic | ikonia: I contributed tons of times. | 09:23 |
pozic | ikonia: also, you are just a sucker. | 09:24 |
pozic | ikonia: you likely don't even have a degree in CS. | 09:24 |
pozic | ikonia: you sound like a stupid system administrator in any way. | 09:24 |
pozic | ikonia: just a piece of garbage that can only ban people when they have a different opinion. | 09:24 |
pozic | You are nothing different than Hitler. | 09:25 |
pozic | Also, which moron decided to ban me? | 09:25 |
bazhang | this is going nowhere | 09:25 |
bazhang | once you reference Nazi's, it's over | 09:26 |
pozic | I just cannot have any respect for a bunch of idiots. | 09:26 |
pozic | Why should I? | 09:26 |
Tm_T | pozic: as you keep that attitude, I have to ask you to leave until you can behave | 09:26 |
bazhang | pozic, you won't be unbanned at this time. please exit the channel. | 09:26 |
pozic | I have no problems with anyone that I didn't communicate with. | 09:26 |
pozic | I have a problem with ikonia.\ | 09:26 |
pozic | He/she clearly lacks the intelligence to communicate with me. | 09:27 |
Tm_T | pozic: I ask you again, please leave when you have that attitude | 09:27 |
bazhang | thats quite enough of the insults | 09:27 |
pozic | It is not an insult. | 09:27 |
pozic | It is a fact. | 09:27 |
bazhang | bye | 09:27 |
pozic | Not everyone is created equal. | 09:27 |
bazhang | heh | 09:27 |
* Tm_T fails with scripts sometimes | 09:27 | |
bazhang | chanserv.py? | 09:28 |
Tm_T | no, my own aliases for irssi | 09:28 |
bazhang | heh ok | 09:28 |
Tm_T | I forgot to add the nick before hitting enter | 09:28 |
ikonia | and he'll start in +1 in 30 seconds | 09:28 |
bazhang | and more insults now | 09:29 |
ikonia | and he's gone | 09:29 |
Tm_T | I was on it ): | 09:29 |
ikonia | sorry, didn't know if you where in +1 | 09:29 |
Tm_T | np, you just keep pointing out how old and slow I am (: | 09:30 |
* Tm_T huggles the young an fast ikonia | 09:30 | |
ubottu | iceroot called the ops in #ubuntu (Soul) | 10:50 |
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Pici | !ping | 13:20 |
ubottu | another contentless ping... sigh... | 13:20 |
Flannel | Shouldn't there be an additional call for IRCC nominations instead of a vote? How can we elect four people to five seats? | 14:58 |
Pici | Good question. I must not have been as awake as I thought when I read it earlier. | 14:59 |
jussi | I have no idea to the answer. I suggest you ask the CC. | 15:02 |
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mneptok | ubottu: i nom-nom-nominate you! | 16:25 |
ubottu | mneptok: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 16:25 |
* genii-around votes for the bot | 16:28 | |
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pangolin | least we know the bot will attend the meetings | 16:58 |
genii-around | pangolin: Good point | 17:14 |
pangolin | !guidelines > iToast | 17:23 |
jussi | I think meetings should be abolished. stupid waste of time. :) | 17:44 |
genii-around | I'm not crazy about meetings either actually. | 17:46 |
pangolin | as of wednesday you no longer have to attend | 17:46 |
pangolin | let it be written, let it be done. | 17:46 |
genii-around | Heh | 17:47 |
genii-around | If there are 4 candidates and 4 positions, doesn't everyone just get acclaimed? | 17:50 |
jussi | genii-around: read the email again, and then the link in it :) :) :) | 17:51 |
Corey | I'm not a Ubuntu member, else I'd throw my hat into the proverbial ring. | 17:51 |
jussi | its basically a yes/no vote | 17:52 |
* genii-around re-examines email | 17:52 | |
pangolin | thing is doesn't the ircc require 5 members? | 17:53 |
* jussi points that question to the CC | 17:53 | |
ikonia | I didn't think elky's term was expiring yet | 17:55 |
pangolin | the CC said they were going to start a fresh IRCC | 17:55 |
pleia2 | having a strong council that the CC is confident is more important than a specific number | 17:57 |
pleia2 | s/confident is/confident in | 17:57 |
pangolin | +1 | 17:57 |
pangolin | answers like that is why you are on the CC | 17:59 |
pleia2 | :) | 17:59 |
* genii-around sets an alarm to remind him to vote in about 6 hours | 18:02 | |
pangolin | since the voting is secret and all that. I am voting yes for all four nominees. | 18:15 |
pangolin | good luck and looking forward to working with you folks :) | 18:16 |
ikonia | jita = known troll | 19:30 |
dax | pleia2: Well, I imagine certain numbers wouldn't work. Four people being an even number would be interesting voting-wise, for example (two vs. two?). | 20:33 |
dax | Although I guess you could just require 3/4 to pass things. Not too different from how things work now. | 20:34 |
pleia2 | dax: there is really no perfect solution to this, and if there is a decision that is so contentious that we'd need such a tiebreaker I'd rather it was discussed more widely with the community so council members could agree somehow rather than simple council majority deciding | 20:35 |
pleia2 | (or discussed with the CC, whatever is more appropriate for the sitation) | 20:37 |
genii-around | But as I understand... there are 3 positions which are at the end of their term... one position which the member is stepping down.. which makes 4 positions. And there are 4 candidates... | 20:38 |
* genii-around goes to make more coffee | 20:38 | |
dax | genii-around: elky's position is being voted upon also. | 20:38 |
mneptok | pleia2: i strongly disagree with that approach, and can muster the votes to ensure that ..... snow!!! LOOK AT THE PRETTY SNOWFLAKES!!!!! | 20:38 |
dax | genii-around: The CC feels it's best to re-elect a full council, basically. | 20:38 |
pleia2 | genii-around: as the email about this said, every council member is being removed | 20:39 |
* mneptok scampers off | 20:39 | |
pleia2 | we're voting on the 4 proposed to staff the council | 20:39 |
genii-around | Ah, this starts to make more sense then | 20:39 |
dax | pleia2: I'd suggest throwing a CC member on there and making it 5, but then they'd have yet another hat to juggle. | 20:40 |
JoshuaP | I'd like to staff the council if there is a position open. :) | 20:40 |
pangolin | heh | 20:40 |
dax | pleia2: One hopes that the efforts towards fixing Ubuntu's derth of leaders will actually work. That you can't find five people out of a core ops team of almost 100 kinda points at it again. | 20:40 |
pangolin | you need to be an ubuntu member JoshuaP | 20:40 |
pleia2 | dax: the CC will be closely working with the IRCC moving forward (not formally replacing the 5th because we do want that space available should a suitable replacement be found) | 20:40 |
pangolin | JoshuaP: How can we help? | 20:40 |
dax | true. 100 is too high, then :\ | 20:40 |
JoshuaP | pangolin, how do I become an Ubuntu member? | 20:41 |
pangolin | !membership > JoshuaP | 20:41 |
ubottu | JoshuaP, please see my private message | 20:41 |
pleia2 | dholbach, myself and Gwaihir have already committed to helping, don't want to overwhelm CC members either by just making one of us do it :) | 20:41 |
dax | pleia2: (What's Gwaihir's realname? This must be the first time I've known someone by that and not IRC handle) | 20:43 |
pleia2 | Milo Casagrande :) | 20:43 |
dax | ah, right | 20:43 |
pleia2 | I didn't actually know his IRC nick either before he joined the CC | 20:44 |
pleia2 | but I've met him | 20:44 |
pangolin | JoshuaP: if there is nothing else please don't idle in this channel. | 20:44 |
JoshuaP | I'm reading the article Dx | 20:44 |
JoshuaP | I'm a bot slow at it as my eyes are strained from staring at a command line for 19 hours | 20:45 |
pangolin | JoshuaP: ok well, there is a no idling policy in this channel. unless you have immediate business with the ops team please /part. | 20:45 |
JoshuaP | Fair | 20:46 |
pangolin | thank... | 20:46 |
Pici | !cookie | ikonia | 21:16 |
ubottu | ikonia: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie! | 21:16 |
ikonia | ha ha ha | 21:16 |
ikonia | for what ? | 21:16 |
Pici | ikonia: for today, you've been dealing with a bunch of problem users in #u | 21:16 |
ikonia | ha ha ha, not too bad | 21:17 |
ikonia | the main issues seem to be solved, well, manday is anyway | 21:17 |
* genii-around gets a 30-minute warning alarm | 22:31 | |
genii-around | What the hell. https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-irc-members/+polls said an hour ago opening in 1 hour. Now the hour is gone it says one more hour. ( actually 55 minutes now) | 23:05 |
ikonia | you're keen | 23:05 |
genii-around | ikonia: I stayed an hour at work for it. Now it looks like another one. | 23:06 |
ikonia | aren't you a good operator | 23:06 |
ikonia | commited | 23:06 |
genii-around | Hm | 23:07 |
ikonia | staying late | 23:07 |
genii-around | ikonia: I don't usually use a computer from home after being around them at work all day, etc. | 23:10 |
ikonia | understandable, still good effort | 23:10 |
* genii-around makes more coffee and settles in for the second hour | 23:10 |
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