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mvopitti: good morning! if you are around, could you please binary-NEW vmware-view-client in the canonical partner archive? and also source NEW it for lucid, mav, natty please?08:51
pittiah, no daily archive admin around?08:52
mvopitti: its slangasek today, but given his timezone I assume he is sleeping08:52
pittiok, I guess it's urgent; let me just start that abiword build again, then I'll have a look (this sounds like an hour long job)08:53
mvopitti: sorry for the interrupt, the vmware people want to a press release soon08:53
pitti(well, not really an hour I hope)08:53
mvopitti: well, vmware is in the US tz too, but it would be good if we had a little head-start :) I really hope its just a "click-accept" and not a hour long job)08:53
pittimvo: I have never done a partner archive review, do you know if there's some documentation what to check?08:54
pittiI can only assume that the redistributability etc. is already settled08:54
mvopitti: I don't - since brian left it kind of felt into my hands, but this is my fist publication since 200808:54
mvopitti: infinity discussed that with Randy on friday too, the current license in the package is very strict but randy assured us that we have the proper contracts in place of course for the redistribution08:56
mvoI wonder who was doing the reviews for the other uploads in partner before, do we have a log of that?09:00
pittino idea :(09:00
pittino, the LP operations are not logged to the person level09:00
pittiin fact, I don't think that NEW processing etc. is logged at all09:01
pittimvo: hm, there's a "jonas-full" sitting in oneiric's source NEW since october 20; I wonder if there's anyone who is responsible for those at all :)09:05
mvopitti: heh :) I guess hte one who was left09:06
mvopitti: I will enquire about it09:07
pittimvo: is there a vmware-view-pcoip package? because vmware-view-client ships ./usr/share/doc/vmware-view-pcoip/README.gz09:08
pittithat's unusual and a potential file conflict09:08
pitti./usr/lib/libpcoip_client.so09:08
pitti./usr/lib/libpcoip_crypto.so09:08
* pitti sighs at proprietary software packaging which ignores all best practices of library handling..09:09
pittimvo: ^ I guess there's little point for me to complain about these libs?09:09
* pitti pretends he never ran lintian on this09:10
mvopitti: they are unstripped as well09:11
mvopitti: there used to be a vmware-view-pcoip from the same source pakcage during the testing, but vmware decided in the end to have just one unified package09:11
pittimvo: yes, but that worries me less; the apparently private library in a public path and weird /doc/ path do09:11
pittimvo: ah, do we need a Replaces: there?09:12
pittior just drop that extra doc file?09:12
mvopitti: I will raise it as a concern with their people09:12
mvopitti: just drop the extra file, I will do that in my bzr tree09:12
mvopitti: it was never released into tthe public with the additional binary pkg09:12
pittiwould be a bit sad if the first testers would get an install failure because of that right after the press release :)09:13
pittimvo: ah, ok; as long as the internal testers of that are okay with that09:13
mvoyeah, indeed09:13
pittimvo: if you want to reupload, perhaps also do a c/r? who knows which other files were formerly in that other package09:13
pittimvo: if you think it's ok to ignore, just say the word, BTW09:14
mvopitti: I think its ok to ignore, it was never anywhere publically, its also part of the upstream tarball, not done by the packaging09:16
mvoall testing happend in a private ppa with two people, so the risk is really low09:17
pittiah, ok09:17
pittioneiric bin-accepted then, reviewing natty ATM09:18
mvothanks!09:18
pittiFiles: *09:19
pittiCopyright: 2011 VMware, Inc.09:19
pittiLicense: LGPL-2.109:19
pittimvo: hmm -- is that an error?09:19
pittisorry09:19
pittithis is an error09:19
pittieither it's meant to be LGPL, then the source is missing; or it can't be LGPL09:19
pittimvo: also, copyright talks about including curl, parts of freebsd, icu and what not, none of which have source in the package09:22
pittimvo: the rest looks ok, but it needs to be rejected for the wrong copyright09:24
mvopitti: ok, so I will put "proprietary" in there and reupload?09:24
pittimvo: I suppose oneiric has the same problem? can we reupload that as well?09:24
mvoyes09:25
pittimvo: I don't know; right now we couldn't distribute it at all09:25
mvoif I have to reupload anyway, I will fix it for them all09:25
pittibecause there is no license document from upstream anywhere09:25
pittithat's where the "special handling for partner" comes into play which I'm not familiar with09:25
mvopitti: right  - infinity raised this as well, I'm happy to hold for now until Randy is up and we can discuss09:25
pittibut the principle that licenses are restrictive applies to any license, not just the free one09:25
pittimvo: ok, I'll reject the others for now09:26
mvothanks09:28
mvore-uploaded to oneiric, doing the rest now too09:30
pittimvo: do you know if it would be possible to add our contract with VMWare to the package? right now nobody knows which rights he has with this software, so legally you aren't even allowed to download it, let alone use it09:34
mvopitti: I don't know, I think we need to discuss this with Randy, I think infinity discussed that friday too but it was late and I had to leave ( 23:00ish) so I don't know the outcome of the discussion09:36
dokoso both python-central and python-support demoted over the weekend, please don't re-promote ;)10:09
pittidoko: over our dead bodies! :)10:11
pittidoko: congrats for this!10:11
* mvo hugs doko10:12
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Laneyhttp://orangesquash.org.uk/~laney/transitions/index.html16:43
Laney:-)16:43
cjwatsonnice16:46
Laneyshould be able to deploy it16:47
Laneycouldn't make it one-step running due to the archive/ports separation sadly, so we still need the separate download step16:48
Laneyotherwise running is just ./ben.native tracker -g ../configs/global.conf -cd ../configs/monitor16:48
Laneyyou can set various directories in a config file if you want too (see ries:/srv/release.debian.org/www/transitions/global.conf)16:49
mvopitti: is there anything I can do to help with the vmware-view-client impass we currently have (binary-new in oneiric partner) before I leave for the evening? I mailed Randy but got no feedback yet17:19
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slangasekpitti: aside from the license question, are you happy with the vmware packages to be accepted?20:55
slangasekmvo, pitti: fwiw, most partner reviews were being handled by kirkland - which doesn't help much now either ;)20:59
* kirkland waves :-)21:00
mvoSpamapS, pitti: the verification for bug #905413 is done now, could this package please be moved to oneiric-updates?22:20
ubot4Launchpad bug 905413 in app-install-data-partner (Ubuntu Oneiric) (and 3 other projects) "SRU for vmware-view (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90541322:20
mvo(the aging request is waived for app-install-data-partner)22:20
bdmurrayslangasek: notionally what do you think of updating http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/alpha-1/ with a pointer to the latest daily build?23:27
bdmurrayBecause Alpha 2 is still so far away and there were / are some installer bugs23:28
slangasekbdmurray: perhaps a generic message on all alpha pages that says "for the most recent daily image, click here"?23:28
slangasekor something to that effect?23:28
bdmurrayslangasek: yes exactly, because people are primarily trying to install from alpha 123:29
bdmurrayI mean the bug reports we are receiving now are primarily from alpha 123:29
slangasekbdmurray: yeah, I think that seems sensible.  Bug report on ubuntu-cdimage?23:30
bdmurraybug 90663323:37
ubot4Launchpad bug 906633 in ubuntu-cdimage "alpha pages should contain a link to the latest daily image (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90663323:37

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