[17:31] <govatent> hello
[19:23] <mhall119> hey govatent, how goes it?
[19:25] <govatent> all good
[19:25] <govatent> slow day at home. 
[19:25] <govatent> for once 
[19:25] <govatent> how about you?
[19:26] <itnet7> Hey there govatent and mhall119, how are you?
[19:29] <govatent> hey itnet7
[19:29] <govatent> I am good. Still feeling great about that guy that we helped the other day 
[19:29] <itnet7> govatent: Yeah, that was really cool!!
[19:30] <govatent> Hey can you send me the picture late of the guy taking the picture of my eye
[19:30] <itnet7> I didn't remember, but Hannya mentioned that he too was from Ecuador
[19:30] <govatent> yup he was 
[19:30] <govatent> I told Jorge the story and it made his day 
[19:31] <govatent> later*
[19:33] <itnet7> Yeah, It was really a good thing, I was glad to see everything when it worked out well
[19:34] <govatent> It was also good for me to figure out how to work with people in order to meet all their needs in ubuntu. So I will know how to handle people who come to the cafe from the windows/mac world 
[19:36] <mhall119> itnet7: getting ready for some vacation time
[19:37] <itnet7> mhall119: Sweet, You guys deserve a break! Going to see snow?
[19:37] <mhall119> no, we went to Tennessee last month
[19:37] <itnet7> Awesome!
[19:37] <mhall119> this is just vacation from work/school
[19:37] <itnet7> unplug
[19:38] <itnet7> :-)
[19:38] <mhall119> me?
[19:38] <mhall119> not likely
[19:38] <itnet7> ROFL
[19:38] <mhall119> going to spend time working on Qimo I hope
[19:38] <govatent> lol 
[19:38] <govatent> that's cool 
[19:38] <itnet7> govatent: yeah, to be honest I thought that you were taking on a pretty difficult task, and I was proud of you for accomplishing it
[19:40] <govatent> thanks
[19:40] <govatent> i did not think it was that bad. Just dealing with Microsoft Virtual PC thing was annoying. 
[19:41] <itnet7> Yeah, not really difficult, but you showed a really great confidence. I would have not deleted his windows drive until I was sure, the new solution met his needs, even though he was more than willing ;-)
[19:42] <balloons> this sounds like an interesting story :-)
[19:42] <itnet7> balloons: It was pretty cool
[19:42] <itnet7> Was he an opthomalogist
[19:46] <govatent> Well the only reason he was going to keep 7 is because he thought the virt software for XP was made just for 7 and he would not be able to use it. Being a virt i knew i could just move it into any virt solution. 
[19:46] <govatent> he uses his computer mostly for web surfing and that xp software 
[19:46] <govatent> so now he will be safer online too 
[19:50] <maxolasersquad> You know that good feeling when you delete a couple hundred lines of code?
[19:53] <govatent> I can only imagine it
[19:55] <maxolasersquad> govatent: It works like this, "Good day to you sir!  You are unneeded as I have found code a fraction of your size that will do what you did, but more efficiently."
[19:55] <govatent> lol
[19:55] <govatent> btw, i love that japanese clock thing you posted 
[19:56] <maxolasersquad> govatent: I was laughing about it all night.  My wife was getting pretty annoyed.
[19:56] <maxolasersquad> I was looking for a wall clock with Kanji.
[19:56] <govatent> did you find one? 
[19:56] <maxolasersquad> Yes
[19:56] <govatent> that sounds like a pretty cool clock. 
[19:57] <govatent> hum....*thinks*
[19:57] <itnet7> gonna grab some agua, brb
[19:57] <govatent> ok enjoy itnet7
[19:57] <maxolasersquad> http://www.amazon.com/South-Wind-Clear-Silent-Clock/dp/B004TMEBFU/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1324324634&sr=8-1-fkmr0
[19:57] <govatent> that's a very nice clock 
[19:58] <maxolasersquad> And it's a lot cheaper than $50.
[19:58] <govatent> lol very much so 
[19:58] <govatent> but it does not get to annoy you :P
[19:58] <maxolasersquad> We went to an Asian seafood market and practiced reading the Japanese labels.  The kids where pretty pumped.
[19:59] <govatent> nice 
[19:59] <govatent> that's really cool!
[19:59] <govatent> btw, i finally learned to work with VI. better late than never. Man i was missing out. 
[19:59] <maxolasersquad> They where able to make out genmai ocha (Green Tea) and tofu miso
[19:59] <govatent> That's great
[20:00] <govatent> You guys should check out the Japanese Garden and Museum in West Palm Beach. It's pretty sweet and I think worth the drive. I have yet to go as I have never have time and its a slight drive even for me
[20:01] <govatent> maxolasersquad: http://www.morikami.org/
[20:01] <govatent> I think you and the family would enjoy it 
[20:01] <maxolasersquad> Ichimura Japanese Garden?
[20:01] <maxolasersquad> Cool
[20:02] <govatent> and if you guys do go there you must inform me! :P
[20:02] <govatent> its like an hour from me . give or take with traffic 
[20:03] <maxolasersquad> It'll probably be a while before I'm that way again.  My brother-in-law lives in Pompano Beach, so one day we'll be back for sure.
[20:05] <govatent> cool
[20:05] <govatent> how have you been? 
[20:06] <maxolasersquad> Alright.  Gearing up for a major software release, about two years of work coming out the gates.
[20:09] <govatent> nice
[20:09] <maxolasersquad> The toughest part is fighting all those who wish to creep scope unnecessarily.
[20:09] <maxolasersquad> I call them "creepers"
[20:16] <itnet7> +1 maxolasersquad 
[20:16] <itnet7> that seems to be the hardest part
[20:16] <itnet7> during a project
[20:17] <maxolasersquad> It's hard enough to keep myself from doing it.  Lord knows hindset shows me so many better ways to do things than the way I originally engineered them.
[20:17] <maxolasersquad> hindisght too.
[20:18] <maxolasersquad> spelling fail
[20:19] <itnet7> Sure
[20:21] <itnet7> Not sure how bad it is to rethink the engineering so much as having someone always trying to creep in new value added features that will only take a few minutes ;-)
[20:49] <amouge> hello everybody :)
[20:49] <amouge> any active users in the Jacksonville area?
[20:52] <mhall119> amouge: we have some further south, and we've had some in J-ville in the past
[21:03] <amouge> mhall119: hmm ok. I moved up here from tampa, I use to be semi active in this channel. But since I moved up here I have joined up with jaxlug and started a hackerspace up here too. So just looking to meet up with others like minded around here
[21:04] <mhall119> amouge: cool, I'm surprised we don't have more active people in Jax, but hopefully that'll change
[21:04] <mhall119> having a hackerspace is nice
[21:04] <amouge> well our monthly meetings for jax lug usually have around 30+ people.. and we opened our hackerspace 3 weeks ago and had 27 people at the open tuesday meeting last week
[21:05] <amouge> we have 8400 square feet :-D
[21:06] <amouge> I will have to see how many of them are interested in ubuntu group here, I've heard many of the users mention that they use ubuntu at the meetings
[21:07] <amouge> most of them think irc is dead.. lol
[21:09] <govatent> I'll have to check it out next time I am up there. 
[21:09] <amouge> definately :)
[21:10] <amouge> jaxhax.org :)
[21:11] <mhall119> dead? I've got 40 channels on 5 networks
[21:11] <amouge> lol I agree
[21:14] <amouge> I will have our arduino door done tonight.. had a heck of a time trying to figure out why the rfid was blocking the exit button from communicating.. Then members wanted more and more features and the code isnt going to fit on one so we are doing a dual arduino which talk to each other.. eventually i will learn to program directly onto the atmega chips lol
[21:21] <govatent> lol
[21:23] <govatent> My friend built a IP based door opener using arduino to unlock the door 
[21:24] <amouge> heh, ours will be unlockable via a login system on our internal wifi only if you forget your key..
[21:24] <amouge> eventually it will fully talk to our membership website that hasnt been built lol
[22:57] <cjohnston> itnet7: uggh.. city teams :-P
[23:04] <mhall119> no city teams
[23:04] <cjohnston> mhall119: look at the ML
[23:05] <mhall119> I saw it
[23:05] <mhall119> but city teams are going away
[23:05] <mhall119> even Vancouver is getting rolled up into a larger team
[23:06] <cjohnston> reply to the ml and say that
[23:06] <cjohnston> 183 is gone
[23:12] <mhall119> itnet7 already replied to the ML, there's no need to add more
[23:22] <Guest63388> hi