[01:49] <rick_h__> phew, done and cleaned up...I'm exhausted
[01:51] <snap-l> rick_h__: Woot?
[01:55] <rick_h__> snap-l: heh yea
[01:57] <snap-l> http://www.amazon.com/World-Percussion-LK58401G-Gath-Drum-Slvr/dp/B000ED64L2/ref=reg_hu-rd_add_1_dp
[01:58] <snap-l> I think we need to take up a collection to have this at the next release party.
[02:01] <rick_h__> heh
[04:13] <snap-l> Ho boy. Kim Jong-il died.
[04:13] <snap-l> Interesting times predicted.
[04:14] <_stink_> "Kim Jong Il died of "overwork," according to North Korean state TV. "
[04:14] <_stink_> that is hilarious.
[04:15] <snap-l> I'd expect nothing less
[04:16] <snap-l> Even if he had 15 shopping bags over his head, noose around his neck, and a Quaker Oatmeal canister shoved up his ass, I think they'd call it "overwork".
[04:16] <_stink_> well, being a dictator is complicated.
[04:17] <snap-l> Being a megalomaniac is complicated
[04:17] <snap-l> Being a dictator, notsomuch
[04:17] <snap-l> We've just associated the two
[04:38] <greg-g> snap-l: wow, that's an image
[04:39] <_stink_> quick, someone gimp that up
[13:02] <brousch> using web2py with SQLServer?
[13:02] <snap-l_> iOS for health
[13:02] <snap-l_> Head First COBOL
[13:02] <rick_h__> lol @ xkcd today
[13:04] <rick_h__> http://twitter.com/#!/workforfood/status/148601921173860352 best tweet today hands down :)
[13:04] <snap-l_> Yeah, that's a goodie.
[13:04] <snap-l_> Though IE6 is dwindling in marketshare.
[13:05] <rick_h__> true, these days I keep doing a /6//
[13:05] <snap-l_> I swear, though, it'll be 2021, and IE6 will still have 1%
[13:05] <snap-l_> "YOUR MACHINE SHOULD HAVE BLOWN UP BY NOW! HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE?"
[13:06] <snap-l_> Two constants in a post-apocalyptic hellhole world: cockroaches, and IE6 > 1% marketshare.
[13:07] <rick_h__> yea, in my world though IE8 is just as destructive to doing cool stuff any more though
[13:07] <rick_h__> ie9 finally got 90% there, but ugh on those numbers
[13:07] <rick_h__> and ie10 finally makes it to a real browser, but that's in dev still
[13:08] <snap-l_> What really grinds me is the number of applications that I've seen that with a little bit of extra effort could be completely cross-browser
[13:08] <snap-l_> but they don't take that extra step
[13:08] <rick_h__> yea, LP breaks on IE with stupid small JS bugs
[13:08] <rick_h__> I've filed a couple, could work faily easily, but no one tests it and qa's it on IE so it's just broken for no good reason
[13:09] <rick_h__> now, it'd still perform for @#$@# on the heavy JS stuff, but at least it'd run
[13:10] <snap-l_> I can't believe I'm about to type this, but Javascript needs an ANSI standard.
[13:10] <snap-l_> something that we can point to and say "this is compliant, this is not"
[13:10] <rick_h__> ? ECMA not good enough for you? :)
[13:10] <snap-l_> Does it keep Microsoft from doing stupid shit?
[13:10] <rick_h__> no one ever said a standard made things comply
[13:11] <rick_h__> see iphones with the deep recessed headphone jacks that required apple headphones :)
[13:11] <rick_h__> (3g? don't recall the one that had that)
[13:11] <snap-l_> I think it was the early iPhone
[13:11] <snap-l_> don't remember offhand.
[13:12] <snap-l_> I wonder if most of what we push blame on Javascript should be placed at Microsoft's DOM implementation.
[13:13]  * snap-l_ hasn't done any JS on IE, so I don't know for certain.
[13:13] <rick_h__> http://caniuse.com/#compare=y&b1=ie+8&b2=ie+9
[13:13] <rick_h__> http://caniuse.com/#compare=y&b1=ie+9&b2=ie+10
[13:13] <rick_h__> that's just crap from IE 8 -> 9 -> 10
[13:14] <rick_h__> in particular in the ie9 -> 10 see all the fancy lovely css for gradients/animations/etc I want to use but can't in any "stable" IE
[13:14] <rick_h__> along with web workers, sockets, and html5 history
[13:14] <snap-l> Yeah, that sucks
[13:15] <rick_h__> nothing to do with their DOM implementation...just features not there
[13:15] <snap-l> but, on the plus side, at least it's getting worked on
[13:15] <snap-l> rick_h__: Well, I mean the other shit not working
[13:15] <rick_h__> http://caniuse.com/#compare=y&b1=ie+9&b2=chrome+10
[13:15] <snap-l> like events and stuff
[13:15] <rick_h__> so compare that to an "old" chrome 10
[13:15] <rick_h__> meh, if you're not using a library to fix that crap you're doing it wrong
[13:15] <rick_h__> so I don't worry about those bits
[13:16] <rick_h__> http://caniuse.com/#compare=y&b1=ie+9&b2=firefox+4 1e-9 to ff4 for a more comparable timeframe
[13:16] <rick_h__> anyway, that's my personal "die in a fire ie die" reasoning
[13:16] <snap-l> Oh yeah, no doubt.
[13:17] <snap-l> IE has done plenty to hold back web standards and make life a living hell for developers.
[13:17] <rick_h__> snap-l: get ready :)
[13:18] <rick_h__> staples is finally all IE8
[13:18] <snap-l> Oh, I know.
[13:18] <snap-l> jippe
[13:18] <rick_h__> and who knows on the chrysler stuff
[13:18] <snap-l> ALU finally moved everything to IE8
[13:19] <rick_h__> http://caniuse.com/#compare=y&b1=ie+8&b2=chrome+15
[13:20] <snap-l> It'll get there eventually. ;)
[13:33] <snap-l> rick_h__: I think the real reason the O'Reilly Deal isn't appealing is because you've already got 'em all. ;)
[14:33] <snap-l> Well, apparently Skype is acting like a cock-monkey
[14:34] <rick_h__> surprise!
[14:37] <snap-l> Finally got it working
[14:37] <snap-l> Waiting for the other party to connect. :)
[14:44] <nullspace> I don't want to know what cock-moneky's throw when they are angry
[14:47] <ColonelPanic001> I'd say, but greg_g might coc-slap me
[15:09] <rick_h__> crap...upgrade borked my video :(
[15:17] <snap-l> Oh, that's no fun
[15:20] <rick_h__> dammit...
[15:20] <rick_h__> how do you get the grub menu these days?
[15:21] <rick_h__> it boots right past it and no amount of button mashing gets me the kernel list
[15:24] <snap-l> hold shift.
[15:25] <snap-l> and pray you don't have a USB keyboard that pairs late with the OS. ;)
[16:25] <rick_h__> dammit I hate mondays
[16:38] <snap-l> Never got the hang of Mondys.
[16:39] <snap-l> Well, I'm a goof
[16:39] <brousch> i have today off
[16:39] <jjesse> must be nice
[16:39] <brousch> yeah, we're gonna go to breton village mall to see the trains
[16:39] <snap-l> forgot to mute on a conference call, and started up an Atari ST emulator with a game
[16:39] <rick_h__> snap-l: lol!
[16:39] <jjesse> oh i forgot about that
[16:39] <jjesse> they still there?
[16:39] <jjesse> my son will love it
[16:39] <brousch> jjesse: i think so
[16:39] <rick_h__> brousch: sounds like fun
[16:40] <brousch> the boy officially needs glasses
[16:40] <jjesse> brousch,  let me know and I'll stop by w/ Caleb :)
[16:40] <brousch> -3 diopters
[16:43]  * krondor wishes he would have taken this week off
[16:55] <greg_g> Last monday of work for 2011
[16:59] <snap-l> Same here
[16:59] <snap-l> taking next week off
[17:00] <ColonelPanic001> university is closed next week. win.
[17:04] <rick_h__> greg-g: can you `dmesg | grep intel` for me pls?
[17:09] <greg-g> rick_h__: are you trying to haxxor my box?
[17:09] <greg-g> rick_h__: http://paste.mitechie.com/show/476/
[17:10] <rick_h__> greg-g: and a ls -al /etc/X11 please?
[17:10] <greg-g> http://paste.mitechie.com/show/477/
[17:11] <rick_h__> ty
[17:11] <greg-g> np
[17:11] <rick_h__> greg-g: no, upgrade today borked me up and you're faily close to my intel/setup
[17:11] <greg-g> yuck
[17:11] <rick_h__> yea
[17:11] <greg-g> rick_h__: you on O or P?
[17:12] <rick_h__> greg-g: O
[17:13] <rick_h__> but due to issues ran a dist-upgrade and got a new kernel and such
[17:13] <rick_h__> though booting into the old kernel does me no good either
[17:14] <greg-g> hrmmmm
[17:14] <greg-g> no good
[17:14] <rick_h__> yea, thanks for the info
[17:17] <rick_h__> yea, soemthing is borked, I don't have a primary device and intel fails to load (this part fb0: inteldrmfb frame buffer device) ... *sigh*
[17:17] <greg-g> don't all canonical employees get direct access to Bryce Harrington to fix all of their video issues?
[18:00] <rick_h__> jcastro: seen anything like this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/89029/oneiric-intel-update-broken-video
[18:01] <greg-g> snap-l: I trust you have seen this: http://www.kungfugrippe.com/post/14441075045/comfort-and-joy
[18:05] <snap-l> not yet.
[18:06] <greg-g> I want to send it to the SomaFM Xmas from Frisko DJ :)
[18:07] <snap-l> I <3 Dio
[18:07] <snap-l> But man, everything he sings makes me think of this: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Up5H9BhnSHY/SxTbV0NyxGI/AAAAAAAAAL4/80JEoSJXR3I/s1600/dnd-color-box-set-20091130-toad.png
[18:12] <snap-l> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_g5h76UahDMo/TCTlDM781tI/AAAAAAAAA4Q/V_1eD0-Aei8/s1600/DnD_Ahead2.jpg <- Slightly related.
[18:26] <greg-g> oh my gawd, this song is sung by the Crypt Keeper!
[18:26] <greg-g> I <3 you, SomaFM
[18:26] <greg-g> http://somafm.com/xmasinfrisko/songhistory.html
[18:28] <rick_h__> man, so much dead material from the intel ppa stuff
[18:32] <snap-l> rick_h__: Yeah, it seems Intel just petered out their support.
[18:49] <snap-l> Yay, I've had two merges to Tracks. :)
[18:49] <jcastro> rick_h__: hey delete that question, bug reports are offtopic there
[18:49]  * jcastro wants to ensure that AU doesn't turn into a bug tracking system
[18:50] <rick_h__> jcastro: done
[18:50] <rick_h__> jcastro: yea, I was approaching more of a "what sohld I check/look at from here
[18:50] <rick_h__> but understand, deleted
[19:03] <rick_h__> ok, so I played...http://www.youtube.com/ninjaunboxing3
[19:09] <greg-g> heh, nice
[19:10] <greg-g> so, Rowan was all fussy last night for a long time, turns out he didn't want to poop in his diaper. We held him over the toilet and he immediately went, a lot. He's pooped in the toilet more than in in diapers now :)
[19:11] <rick_h__> lol
[19:11] <snap-l> greg-g: Only you would have a baby that wants to be toilet trained right out of the box
[19:12] <_stink_> greg-g: holy wow
[19:12] <greg-g> :) we have some pictures if yo uwant to see :)
[19:12] <_stink_> i'm pretty sure there are some entire cultures that do that
[19:12] <_stink_> no diapers
[19:13] <_stink_> just holding the kid out
[19:13] <greg-g> yeah, Chinese mostly
[19:13] <_stink_> your worldliness is genetic :)
[19:13] <greg-g> they also have "split pants" which is what it sounds like. pants with a split in the butt for them to squat and go
[19:14] <greg-g> or you to hold them squating, at the early ages
[19:22] <snap-l> greg-g: How soon before you have him reading calculus books?
[19:23] <greg-g> snap-l: we're thinking new year's day
[19:23] <snap-l> Awesome
[19:23] <snap-l> Also get him an HP-48g
[19:23] <snap-l> none of that algebrainc shit
[19:23] <greg-g> haha, the eternal religious debate, HP vs TI
[19:24]  * greg-g loved his TI-89
[19:25] <snap-l> J likes her HP 50, but she hates RPN
[19:26] <rick_h__> RPN ftw!
[19:26] <rick_h__> back in GMI TI == mgt students, HP == engineers
[19:26] <greg-g> bah
[19:27]  * snap-l feels like he just pulled te rip cord
[19:27] <rick_h__> lol
[19:27] <greg-g> I like LISP style notation better than RPN
[19:27] <_stink_> greg-g++\
[19:27] <greg-g> eg (+ 3 4)
[19:27] <snap-l> greg-g: OK, now you're just being strange. ;)
[19:27] <_stink_> bah, it's awesome
[19:27] <greg-g> I know, I enjoyed LISP
[19:28] <_stink_> especially when it's embedded in your window manager
[19:28] <snap-l> Yeah, but then you get into (* (+ 3 4) 7)
[19:29] <snap-l> and that just looks strange.
[19:29]  * snap-l fired up clojure to make sure it worked. ;) )
[19:30] <snap-l> Of course ( ( 3 4 + ) 7 *) looks bad too
[19:30] <greg-g> snap-l: I still prefer leading operands
[19:31] <greg-g> but, I mostest prefer 8 + 7 * 2
[19:31] <greg-g> because I'm lame
[19:31] <snap-l> Yeah, me too
[19:31] <snap-l> though I like thinking of it as a stack
[19:46] <greg-g> hey task management lovers: This is a pretty neat 'plugin' for taskwarrior if you deal with a lot of bugs as work
[19:47] <greg-g> https://github.com/ralphbean/bugwarrior
[19:50] <snap-l> Oh, that's pretty nice.
[19:51] <snap-l> Would have been a killer feature for Task Warrior and Sf.net
[19:51] <jjesse> brousch,  have you gotten to the mall yet to see the trains?
[19:56] <snap-l> http://208.53.158.48:9564/listen.pls <- Speaking of Dio (Heaven & Hell - Computer God, from the 2007 album Live From Radio City Music Hall )
[19:56] <snap-l> Apparently they're playing more metal this round
[20:44] <snap-l> "Trump to Run for President of North Korea" http://www.borowitzreport.com/2011/12/19/trump-to-run-for-president-of-north-korea/
[20:44] <greg-g> wow, interesting ubuntu-us-mi email
[20:45] <snap-l> yeah, not sure what to do with that
[20:47] <greg-g> I don't have access to library account, so I can't help :)
[20:48] <snap-l> Fed Ex and UPS are going to hate me.
[20:48] <greg-g> are you making them race?
[20:49] <snap-l> I'm buying up Amazon, one piece at a time
[21:37] <snap-l> Thela Hun Ginjeet is a messed up song.