[01:49] phew, done and cleaned up...I'm exhausted [01:51] rick_h__: Woot? [01:55] snap-l: heh yea [01:57] http://www.amazon.com/World-Percussion-LK58401G-Gath-Drum-Slvr/dp/B000ED64L2/ref=reg_hu-rd_add_1_dp [01:58] I think we need to take up a collection to have this at the next release party. [02:01] heh [04:13] Ho boy. Kim Jong-il died. [04:13] Interesting times predicted. [04:14] <_stink_> "Kim Jong Il died of "overwork," according to North Korean state TV. " [04:14] <_stink_> that is hilarious. [04:15] I'd expect nothing less [04:16] Even if he had 15 shopping bags over his head, noose around his neck, and a Quaker Oatmeal canister shoved up his ass, I think they'd call it "overwork". [04:16] <_stink_> well, being a dictator is complicated. [04:17] Being a megalomaniac is complicated [04:17] Being a dictator, notsomuch [04:17] We've just associated the two [04:38] snap-l: wow, that's an image [04:39] <_stink_> quick, someone gimp that up [13:02] using web2py with SQLServer? [13:02] iOS for health [13:02] Head First COBOL [13:02] lol @ xkcd today [13:04] http://twitter.com/#!/workforfood/status/148601921173860352 best tweet today hands down :) [13:04] Yeah, that's a goodie. [13:04] Though IE6 is dwindling in marketshare. [13:05] true, these days I keep doing a /6// [13:05] I swear, though, it'll be 2021, and IE6 will still have 1% [13:05] "YOUR MACHINE SHOULD HAVE BLOWN UP BY NOW! HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE?" [13:06] Two constants in a post-apocalyptic hellhole world: cockroaches, and IE6 > 1% marketshare. [13:07] yea, in my world though IE8 is just as destructive to doing cool stuff any more though [13:07] ie9 finally got 90% there, but ugh on those numbers [13:07] and ie10 finally makes it to a real browser, but that's in dev still [13:08] What really grinds me is the number of applications that I've seen that with a little bit of extra effort could be completely cross-browser [13:08] but they don't take that extra step [13:08] yea, LP breaks on IE with stupid small JS bugs [13:08] I've filed a couple, could work faily easily, but no one tests it and qa's it on IE so it's just broken for no good reason [13:09] now, it'd still perform for @#$@# on the heavy JS stuff, but at least it'd run [13:10] I can't believe I'm about to type this, but Javascript needs an ANSI standard. [13:10] something that we can point to and say "this is compliant, this is not" [13:10] ? ECMA not good enough for you? :) [13:10] Does it keep Microsoft from doing stupid shit? [13:10] no one ever said a standard made things comply [13:11] see iphones with the deep recessed headphone jacks that required apple headphones :) [13:11] (3g? don't recall the one that had that) [13:11] I think it was the early iPhone [13:11] don't remember offhand. [13:12] I wonder if most of what we push blame on Javascript should be placed at Microsoft's DOM implementation. [13:13] * snap-l_ hasn't done any JS on IE, so I don't know for certain. === snap-l_ is now known as snap-l [13:13] http://caniuse.com/#compare=y&b1=ie+8&b2=ie+9 [13:13] http://caniuse.com/#compare=y&b1=ie+9&b2=ie+10 [13:13] that's just crap from IE 8 -> 9 -> 10 [13:14] in particular in the ie9 -> 10 see all the fancy lovely css for gradients/animations/etc I want to use but can't in any "stable" IE [13:14] along with web workers, sockets, and html5 history [13:14] Yeah, that sucks [13:15] nothing to do with their DOM implementation...just features not there [13:15] but, on the plus side, at least it's getting worked on [13:15] rick_h__: Well, I mean the other shit not working [13:15] http://caniuse.com/#compare=y&b1=ie+9&b2=chrome+10 [13:15] like events and stuff [13:15] so compare that to an "old" chrome 10 [13:15] meh, if you're not using a library to fix that crap you're doing it wrong [13:15] so I don't worry about those bits [13:16] http://caniuse.com/#compare=y&b1=ie+9&b2=firefox+4 1e-9 to ff4 for a more comparable timeframe [13:16] anyway, that's my personal "die in a fire ie die" reasoning [13:16] Oh yeah, no doubt. [13:17] IE has done plenty to hold back web standards and make life a living hell for developers. [13:17] snap-l: get ready :) [13:18] staples is finally all IE8 [13:18] Oh, I know. [13:18] jippe [13:18] and who knows on the chrysler stuff [13:18] ALU finally moved everything to IE8 [13:19] http://caniuse.com/#compare=y&b1=ie+8&b2=chrome+15 [13:20] It'll get there eventually. ;) [13:33] rick_h__: I think the real reason the O'Reilly Deal isn't appealing is because you've already got 'em all. ;) [14:33] Well, apparently Skype is acting like a cock-monkey [14:34] surprise! [14:37] Finally got it working [14:37] Waiting for the other party to connect. :) [14:44] I don't want to know what cock-moneky's throw when they are angry [14:47] I'd say, but greg_g might coc-slap me [15:09] crap...upgrade borked my video :( [15:17] Oh, that's no fun [15:20] dammit... [15:20] how do you get the grub menu these days? [15:21] it boots right past it and no amount of button mashing gets me the kernel list [15:24] hold shift. [15:25] and pray you don't have a USB keyboard that pairs late with the OS. ;) [16:25] dammit I hate mondays [16:38] Never got the hang of Mondys. [16:39] Well, I'm a goof [16:39] i have today off [16:39] must be nice [16:39] yeah, we're gonna go to breton village mall to see the trains [16:39] forgot to mute on a conference call, and started up an Atari ST emulator with a game [16:39] snap-l: lol! [16:39] oh i forgot about that [16:39] they still there? [16:39] my son will love it [16:39] jjesse: i think so [16:39] brousch: sounds like fun [16:40] the boy officially needs glasses [16:40] brousch, let me know and I'll stop by w/ Caleb :) [16:40] -3 diopters [16:43] * krondor wishes he would have taken this week off [16:55] Last monday of work for 2011 === greg_g is now known as greg-g [16:59] Same here [16:59] taking next week off [17:00] university is closed next week. win. [17:04] greg-g: can you `dmesg | grep intel` for me pls? [17:09] rick_h__: are you trying to haxxor my box? [17:09] rick_h__: http://paste.mitechie.com/show/476/ [17:10] greg-g: and a ls -al /etc/X11 please? [17:10] http://paste.mitechie.com/show/477/ [17:11] ty [17:11] np [17:11] greg-g: no, upgrade today borked me up and you're faily close to my intel/setup [17:11] yuck [17:11] yea [17:11] rick_h__: you on O or P? [17:12] greg-g: O [17:13] but due to issues ran a dist-upgrade and got a new kernel and such [17:13] though booting into the old kernel does me no good either [17:14] hrmmmm [17:14] no good [17:14] yea, thanks for the info [17:17] yea, soemthing is borked, I don't have a primary device and intel fails to load (this part fb0: inteldrmfb frame buffer device) ... *sigh* [17:17] don't all canonical employees get direct access to Bryce Harrington to fix all of their video issues? [18:00] jcastro: seen anything like this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/89029/oneiric-intel-update-broken-video [18:01] snap-l: I trust you have seen this: http://www.kungfugrippe.com/post/14441075045/comfort-and-joy [18:05] not yet. [18:06] I want to send it to the SomaFM Xmas from Frisko DJ :) [18:07] I <3 Dio [18:07] But man, everything he sings makes me think of this: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Up5H9BhnSHY/SxTbV0NyxGI/AAAAAAAAAL4/80JEoSJXR3I/s1600/dnd-color-box-set-20091130-toad.png [18:12] http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_g5h76UahDMo/TCTlDM781tI/AAAAAAAAA4Q/V_1eD0-Aei8/s1600/DnD_Ahead2.jpg <- Slightly related. [18:26] oh my gawd, this song is sung by the Crypt Keeper! [18:26] I <3 you, SomaFM [18:26] http://somafm.com/xmasinfrisko/songhistory.html [18:28] man, so much dead material from the intel ppa stuff [18:32] rick_h__: Yeah, it seems Intel just petered out their support. [18:49] Yay, I've had two merges to Tracks. :) [18:49] rick_h__: hey delete that question, bug reports are offtopic there [18:49] * jcastro wants to ensure that AU doesn't turn into a bug tracking system [18:50] jcastro: done [18:50] jcastro: yea, I was approaching more of a "what sohld I check/look at from here [18:50] but understand, deleted [19:03] ok, so I played...http://www.youtube.com/ninjaunboxing3 [19:09] heh, nice [19:10] so, Rowan was all fussy last night for a long time, turns out he didn't want to poop in his diaper. We held him over the toilet and he immediately went, a lot. He's pooped in the toilet more than in in diapers now :) [19:11] lol [19:11] greg-g: Only you would have a baby that wants to be toilet trained right out of the box [19:12] <_stink_> greg-g: holy wow [19:12] :) we have some pictures if yo uwant to see :) [19:12] <_stink_> i'm pretty sure there are some entire cultures that do that [19:12] <_stink_> no diapers [19:13] <_stink_> just holding the kid out [19:13] yeah, Chinese mostly [19:13] <_stink_> your worldliness is genetic :) [19:13] they also have "split pants" which is what it sounds like. pants with a split in the butt for them to squat and go [19:14] or you to hold them squating, at the early ages [19:22] greg-g: How soon before you have him reading calculus books? [19:23] snap-l: we're thinking new year's day [19:23] Awesome [19:23] Also get him an HP-48g [19:23] none of that algebrainc shit [19:23] haha, the eternal religious debate, HP vs TI [19:24] * greg-g loved his TI-89 [19:25] J likes her HP 50, but she hates RPN [19:26] RPN ftw! [19:26] back in GMI TI == mgt students, HP == engineers [19:26] bah [19:27] * snap-l feels like he just pulled te rip cord [19:27] lol [19:27] I like LISP style notation better than RPN [19:27] <_stink_> greg-g++\ [19:27] eg (+ 3 4) [19:27] greg-g: OK, now you're just being strange. ;) [19:27] <_stink_> bah, it's awesome [19:27] I know, I enjoyed LISP [19:28] <_stink_> especially when it's embedded in your window manager [19:28] Yeah, but then you get into (* (+ 3 4) 7) [19:29] and that just looks strange. [19:29] * snap-l fired up clojure to make sure it worked. ;) ) [19:30] Of course ( ( 3 4 + ) 7 *) looks bad too [19:30] snap-l: I still prefer leading operands [19:31] but, I mostest prefer 8 + 7 * 2 [19:31] because I'm lame [19:31] Yeah, me too [19:31] though I like thinking of it as a stack [19:46] hey task management lovers: This is a pretty neat 'plugin' for taskwarrior if you deal with a lot of bugs as work [19:47] https://github.com/ralphbean/bugwarrior [19:50] Oh, that's pretty nice. [19:51] Would have been a killer feature for Task Warrior and Sf.net [19:51] brousch, have you gotten to the mall yet to see the trains? [19:56] http://208.53.158.48:9564/listen.pls <- Speaking of Dio (Heaven & Hell - Computer God, from the 2007 album Live From Radio City Music Hall ) [19:56] Apparently they're playing more metal this round [20:44] "Trump to Run for President of North Korea" http://www.borowitzreport.com/2011/12/19/trump-to-run-for-president-of-north-korea/ [20:44] wow, interesting ubuntu-us-mi email [20:45] yeah, not sure what to do with that [20:47] I don't have access to library account, so I can't help :) [20:48] Fed Ex and UPS are going to hate me. [20:48] are you making them race? [20:49] I'm buying up Amazon, one piece at a time [21:37] Thela Hun Ginjeet is a messed up song.