[06:21] <Kilos> morning inetpro and others
[06:35] <inetpro> good morning Kilos and everyone else
[06:35] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday 
[07:08] <maiatoday> hello Kilos and everyone else
[07:16] <Kilos> bbl
[07:22] <Squirm> morning
[08:48] <fulcrum> morning
[08:48] <fulcrum> anyone here
[08:58] <superfly> hi fulcrum
[09:08] <fulcrum> hey
[09:08] <fulcrum> hows it going
[09:17] <superfly> fulcrum: I'm alright, and you?
[09:17] <superfly> (just a bit busy, as you might have gathered)
[09:17] <fulcrum> superfly:  good thanks
[09:17] <fulcrum> superfly:  me too... on leave from tomorrow though
[09:17] <fulcrum> superfly:  that job come through?
[09:18] <superfly> fulcrum: nope
[09:18] <fulcrum> superfly:  nope nope or still waiting to hear?
[09:18] <superfly> wish I was working right now... dunno how I'm going to pay rent, medical aid, etc and have money for grocery shopping next month
[09:18] <superfly> still waiting to hear
[09:18] <fulcrum> gah... :-(
[09:19] <fulcrum> sucks
[09:19] <superfly> if it was just me, it would be OK, but my wife and kid also gotta eat
[09:19] <fulcrum> yeah
[11:00] <zeref> http://www.thejournal.ie/us-congress-rules-that-pizza-is-a-vegetable-282033-Nov2011/
[11:00] <zeref> i lold
[12:18] <Langjan> Hi Kilos
[12:18] <Kilos> hi there Langjan 
[12:19] <Kilos> im glad your xchat is fixed
[12:19] <Langjan> sorry I'm late, got bogged down in town, yes so am I
[12:19] <Kilos> no prob
[12:20] <Kilos> do you want to learn how to get maaz to google for you?
[12:20] <Langjan> Peter Nel sent me an e-mail with some suggestions about my slow 11.10 problem, perhaps I should work thro that first and see what happens
[12:20] <Kilos> he fetches the first 4 or so relevant links. not same as actually googling
[12:21] <Kilos> ok
[12:21] <Langjan> so how is your headache problem today?
[12:21] <Kilos> not a good day but i maintain ty
[12:22] <Langjan> Eish, sorry to hear that, am thinking of you and praying for you...
[12:22] <Kilos> ty sir
[12:23] <Kilos> here is one unity slowness link
[12:23] <Kilos> http://askubuntu.com/questions/67194/unity-runs-slow
[12:23] <Langjan> my privilege my friend
[12:23] <Langjan> thanks for the link
[12:23] <Kilos> your welcome
[12:23] <Kilos> good luck to finding the cure
[12:24] <Langjan> Thanks, I will do some homework and let you know how things are progressing. 
[12:24] <Kilos> i saw mails with 11.04 way back that were similar and they found the probs
[12:24] <Langjan> Alles sal regkom
[12:24] <Kilos> ok
[12:24] <Kilos> lmga
[12:25] <Kilos> just remember you dont have a nvidia graphics card in there hey
[12:25] <Langjan> Will do. OK take a break and drink plenty water
[12:25] <Langjan> moet net nie verdrink nie...
[12:25] <Langjan> lol
[12:26] <Kilos> ha ha
[12:26] <Langjan> and thx for your patience with my xchat prob
[12:26] <Kilos> ek kan goed swem ek was n lewensredder by toti
[12:26] <Kilos> anytime my friend
[12:27] <Langjan> O jys een van die 'toti helde, daai bruingebrande manne met die spogspiere 
[12:27] <Kilos> hiya superfly you guys ok?
[12:28] <superfly> ja, we're ok for now
[12:28] <Kilos> lmga ja maar 35 jaar terug
[12:28] <Langjan> maar 'toti was 'n gevaarlike swemplek
[12:28] <Langjan> het jou groot borskas nou afgesak?
[12:28] <Langjan> tot waar?
[12:29] <Kilos> ja die see het bietjie skeef getrek party keer
[12:29] <Kilos> ek was daar toe die eerste haai aanval daar was
[12:29] <Langjan> sjoe, dit was seker ''n ervaring
[12:30] <Kilos> superfly, thats nice to hear
[12:30] <Langjan> nouja, ek word geroep - die pantoffelregering. Mooi loop kilos
[12:30] <Kilos> ek het geleer om op water te loop daai dag
[12:30] <Kilos> ok
[12:30] <superfly> Kilos: not really... now is OK, next month will not be
[12:30] <Kilos> selle daar
[12:30] <Kilos> eish superfly we all praying for you
[12:31] <superfly> dankie oom
[12:36] <Kilos> i'll be back later. be good all of ya
[17:38] <Kilos> i have a terrible problem. somehow i cant get into the second partition of my external
[17:38] <Kilos> http://slexy.org/view/s20rCl3EeC
[17:38] <Kilos> thats the error message i get
[17:39] <Kilos> from  dmesg | tail
[17:43] <roryy> ouch
[17:44] <Kilos> yeah. i have everything saved there
[17:45] <superfly> you should be able to read the drive without the journal though, but I am unfamiliar with that sort of stuff
[17:46] <Kilos> if i look in places it actually shows as the storage drive it is but when i try open it then i get the error message telling me to run that tail command
[17:47] <Kilos> i copied ms office there this avy to take with to tara and dunno if that could have caused it
[17:48] <Kilos> the drive is partitioned as backup and storage and only the storage part wont open
[17:50] <Kilos> i gonna try mount with cli
[17:51] <roryy> there are some scary e2fsck things to do with using superblock backups
[17:51] <roryy> if it's feasible perhaps you should use dd to back the drive up, and play with the backup image.  i'm guessing the partition is too big for that, though
[17:52] <superfly> eish, it's already past time to start the monthly meeting
[17:52] <Kilos> i dont understand anything about superblocks. its just a partition i keep everything on
[17:52]  * superfly prods nuvolari, drubin, tumbleweed, inetpro
[17:52] <superfly> zeref: you around?
[17:53] <superfly> sdehaan, Squirm, Kerbero, bmg505: you guys?
[17:53] <Kilos> superfly, we can have a small meet and just say everyone has gone on holiday
[17:57] <superfly> Kilos: eish, I need to go deal with the little man, will only be back in half an hour... but I agree with you
[17:58] <Kilos> np superfly 
[17:58] <tumbleweed> hi
[17:58] <Kilos> hiya tumbleweed 
[17:58] <Kilos> we can wait for superfly and then have our monthly meet
[17:58] <Kilos> what you think
[17:59] <tumbleweed> erm, what's the agenda?
[17:59] <superfly> tumbleweed: I don't think we really have one at this stage :-)
[17:59] <superfly> anyways, gotta go, bbiab
[18:00] <Kilos> i spose just to say we actually having a meet but everyone is on holiday
[18:00] <tumbleweed> sure, re waiting
[18:00] <Kilos> we missed having a meet last month as well
[18:06] <Kilos> sorry internet died
[18:07] <Squirm> hello superfly
[18:08] <Squirm> hello Kilos
[18:08] <Kilos> hi there Squirm 
[18:13] <Kilos> tumbleweed, do you know how i can get past this superblock please
[18:13] <Kilos> Error mounting: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdc2,
[18:16] <Kilos> something funny happening. if i go places computer then it sees my storage drive as sdb2
[18:16] <Kilos> but still wont open
[18:17] <Kilos> so where this mix up with sdb and sdc coming from?
[18:22] <Squirm> Kilos: is it an ntfs drive? do you have ntfs-3g installed?
[18:23] <Kilos> no its ext4
[18:23] <tumbleweed> Kilos: sdb and sdc are different devices
[18:23] <Squirm> then I'm as lost as you :P
[18:23] <tumbleweed> are you sure the mixup isn't in your head?
[18:23] <tumbleweed> :)
[18:23] <Squirm> dmesg should tell you where it is
[18:23] <tumbleweed> cat /proc/partitions will show you what partitions the kernel sees
[18:24] <Kilos> ya tumbleweed but its the same external. always sdb now it sees it as sdc as well
[18:24] <Squirm> you don't have a flash disk or anything in there?
[18:24] <tumbleweed> probably re-added it before it noticed that it was removed (due to a temporary disconnection or something like that)
[18:25] <tumbleweed> does /proc/partitions show the same partitions for sdb and sdc?
[18:25] <Kilos> shows as sdc
[18:26] <tumbleweed> where?
[18:26] <Kilos> proc/partitions
[18:26] <tumbleweed> no sign of sdb?
[18:26] <tumbleweed> then I don't see a problem
[18:26] <Kilos> nope
[18:27] <tumbleweed> unless you still have sdb mounted, in which case, yes you do have a problem :P
[18:27] <Kilos> when i plug it in the first part opens but second one gives error message
[18:27] <Kilos> there isnt any othe usb goodie mounted 
[18:28] <Kilos> just walked aroung pc to check
[18:28] <Kilos> only modem and external
[18:28] <tumbleweed> "sudo sfdisk -l /dev/sdc" <- please pastebin the output
[18:30] <Kilos> http://slexy.org/view/s20fUFzt3R
[18:31] <tumbleweed> sudo mount /dev/sdc2 /mnt
[18:31] <tumbleweed> I assume that gives you your bad superblock error?
[18:32] <tumbleweed> "dmesg | tail" should give more hints
[18:33] <Kilos> http://slexy.org/view/s20gWholzz
[18:33] <Kilos> even that output is different to what is was earlier
[18:34] <tumbleweed> ok, corrupted journal maybe
[18:34] <tumbleweed> have you run an fsck on it?
[18:35] <tumbleweed> fsck -C0 -f -y /dev/sdc2
[18:35] <Kilos> dont know how to do that tumbleweed 
[18:35] <Kilos> ty will try
[18:37] <superfly> I'm back
[18:37] <Kilos> storage: ***** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED *****
[18:37] <Kilos> wb superfly 
[18:37] <Kilos> we ready for you
[18:38] <Kilos> http://slexy.org/view/s2oYpT7arN
[18:39] <superfly> mkay, well... let's see if I can drive Maaz
[18:39] <superfly> Maaz: how do I use meeting?
[18:39] <Maaz> superfly: Take minutes of an IRC Meeting. You can use it like this:
[18:39] <Maaz>   (start | end) meeting [about <title>]
[18:39] <Maaz>   I am <True Name>
[18:39] <Maaz>   topic <topic>
[18:39] <Maaz>   (agreed | idea | accepted | rejected) <statement>
[18:39] <Maaz>   minutes so far
[18:39] <Maaz>   meeting title is <title>
[18:39] <Kilos> yay ty tumbleweed its fixed
[18:39] <tumbleweed> Kilos: np
[18:40] <superfly> Maaz: start meeting about Ubuntu-ZA Monthly Meeting
[18:40] <Maaz> superfly: Just do it yourself
[18:40] <Kilos> can just copying winsucks stuff to there do that?
[18:40] <Kilos> lol
[18:40] <superfly> start meeting about Ubuntu-ZA Monthly Meeting
[18:40] <tumbleweed> Maaz: permissions
[18:40] <Maaz> tumbleweed: Permissions: chairmeeting and nmap
[18:40] <superfly> ah, I don't have meeting permissions, I think
[18:40] <tumbleweed> Maaz: start meeting about Ubuntu-ZA Monthly Meeting
[18:40]  * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles
[18:40] <superfly> thanks tumbleweed
[18:40] <tumbleweed> do we have an agenda?
[18:41] <Kilos> Maaz, i am Miles Sharpe
[18:41] <Maaz> Kilos: Righto
[18:41] <tumbleweed> Maaz: I am Stefano Rivera
[18:41] <Maaz> tumbleweed: Sure
[18:41] <superfly> Maaz: I am Raoul Snyman
[18:41] <Maaz> superfly: Righto
[18:41] <superfly> tumbleweed: uh, not really, I don't think... I'm quickly looking up the last minutes
[18:42] <Kilos> bmg wb log in to meet please
[18:42] <Kilos> Squirm, log in
[18:42] <Kilos> zeref, ping
[18:43] <superfly> tumbleweed, Kilos: do you remember when our last meeting was?
[18:43] <Kilos> 2 months back superfly 
[18:43] <tumbleweed> http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/
[18:44] <tumbleweed> http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/
[18:44] <tumbleweed> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings seems to be a little sparse
[18:44] <tumbleweed> Maaz: topic review previous minutes
[18:44] <Maaz> Current Topic: review previous minutes
[18:45] <tumbleweed> http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2011-10-24-17-37-27.html
[18:45] <Kilos> yip we missed last month because kbmonkey didnt have internet connection
[18:45] <tumbleweed> kbmonkey seems to have won all the action items
[18:45] <Kilos> and he apologised again today
[18:45] <tumbleweed> so I assume we don't have much review to do without him
[18:46] <superfly> well, he and I were supposed to organise an Ubuntu hour, but that never really materialised, partially my fault, I forgot :-(
[18:46] <Kilos> methinks we just need to have showed we are here and havent given up
[18:46] <tumbleweed> superfly: so it goes
[18:46] <superfly> (there was also the just got back from holiday, and then the losing my job bits)
[18:47] <Kilos> most of the guys are away on holiday
[18:47] <tumbleweed> in that case
[18:47] <tumbleweed> Maaz: topic agenda
[18:47] <Maaz> Current Topic: agenda
[18:47] <tumbleweed> anything we need to discuss?
[18:47] <superfly> I'd like to have a slightly more local Ubuntu hour, especially now that I have a netbook
[18:47] <tumbleweed> that'd be lovely
[18:48] <superfly> but I think we should look at doing that in about Feb, when people are back at work
[18:48]  * tumbleweed thinks we should do some vaguely dev-oriented event while highvoltage is in town, if we can twist his arm :P
[18:49] <superfly> ooo, that would be cool
[18:49] <tumbleweed> last call for agenda items
[18:49] <superfly> so possible events are a Cape Town Ubuntu hour and a dev event when highvoltage is in town
[18:50] <superfly> tumbleweed: I think those two events?
[18:50] <superfly> should go on the agenda, I mean
[18:50] <Kilos> lo rossouwap 
[18:50] <tumbleweed> yup
[18:51] <tumbleweed> Maaz: topic CT ubuntu hour
[18:51] <Maaz> Current Topic: CT ubuntu hour
[18:51] <tumbleweed> superfly: if you are taking that on, it'd be great
[18:51] <superfly> I'll do my best... I'd like to have at least one other person who can "guarantee" they'll be there though
[18:51] <superfly> I hate sitting alone in a coffee shop :-(
[18:52] <tumbleweed> heh, I'll do my best to be there
[18:52] <tumbleweed> when and where are you thinking?
[18:52] <superfly> Maybe the second or third Saturday in Feb? the 11th or the 18th?
[18:53] <tumbleweed> sounds good
[18:53] <superfly> Not too sure where... maybe somewhere accessible by train? or even on the train? :-P
[18:53] <rossouwap> hi Kilos
[18:54] <tumbleweed> Maaz: agreed superfly to organise a CT Ubuntu Hour in mid-feb
[18:54] <Maaz> Agreed: superfly to organise a CT Ubuntu Hour in mid-feb
[18:54] <tumbleweed> done with that?
[18:54]  * superfly diarises it
[18:54] <superfly> yeah
[18:55] <tumbleweed> Maaz: topic a dev event of some sort
[18:55] <Maaz> Current Topic: a dev event of some sort
[18:55] <tumbleweed> we could just have a geeky corner of the ubuntu hour, but speciased events probably aren't a bad idea
[18:55] <tumbleweed> whe had quite a successful little global jam a few months back
[18:56] <superfly> tumbleweed: do you know when highvoltage will be around?
[18:56] <tumbleweed> highvoltage: are you keen for something?
[18:56] <tumbleweed> superfly: another 2 months, I think
[18:57] <tumbleweed> this must probably be discussed out of this meeting...
[18:57] <tumbleweed> Maaz: agreed tumbleweed to possibly organise a little dev event
[18:57] <Maaz> Agreed: tumbleweed to possibly organise a little dev event
[18:57] <tumbleweed> Maaz: topic Any Other Business?
[18:57] <Maaz> Current Topic: Any Other Business
[18:59] <Squirm> bit late
[18:59] <Squirm> but log in where?
[18:59] <superfly> Squirm: identify yourself
[18:59] <Kilos> just say maaz i am and your name
[19:00] <superfly> tumbleweed: No, everyone is on holiday
[19:00] <tumbleweed> yay
[19:00] <Squirm> oh
[19:00] <Squirm> -Notice- {from NickServ} You are already logged in as Squirm.
[19:00] <Kilos> rossouwap, you wanna sign in here at the meet?
[19:00] <Kilos> no man Squirm 
[19:00] <Kilos>  just go maaz i am and your name
[19:01] <Squirm> oh
[19:01] <rossouwap> no thanks Kilos, just got here without realising what the time was :S
[19:01] <Squirm> :P
[19:01] <Squirm> Maaz: I am Sinjin Swanepoel
[19:01] <Maaz> Squirm: Sure
[19:01] <tumbleweed> then we can end :)
[19:01] <tumbleweed> Maaz: end meeting
[19:01] <Maaz> Meeting Ended
[19:01] <Maaz> Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2011-12-19-18-40-35.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2011-12-19-18-40-35.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2011-12-19-18-40-35.html
[19:01] <Squirm> umm
[19:01] <Squirm> yes, I know I know, I made a big contribution, no need for applause
[19:01] <Kilos> ty tumbleweed superfly we legal for another month
[19:02] <Kilos> lol
[19:02] <superfly> thanks tumbleweed
[19:02] <tumbleweed> np
[19:02] <tumbleweed> cocooncrash: please give superfly chairmeeting
[19:02]  * tumbleweed copies and pastes some team reports together
[19:05] <superfly> tumbleweed: I was going to make a monthly meeting page, are you busy with that?
[19:06] <tumbleweed> superfly: haven't started anything yet
[19:06] <superfly> kk
[19:06]  * superfly does so
[19:11] <zeref> hurrrr
[19:11] <Kilos> haha hiya zeref 
[19:12] <zeref> hi there Kilos 
[19:13] <cocooncrash> Maaz: grant chairmeeting to superfly when authed
[19:13] <Maaz> cocooncrash: I don't know who superfly is
[19:14] <cocooncrash> Maaz: create account superfly 
[19:14] <Maaz> cocooncrash: Okay
[19:14] <Kilos> oh my
[19:14] <cocooncrash> Maaz: grant chairmeeting to superfly when authed
[19:14] <Maaz> cocooncrash: Alrighty
[19:14] <Kilos> hi cocooncrash 
[19:14] <superfly> heya cocooncrash
[19:14] <cocooncrash> Hi :)
[19:17] <garaman> hello all.  graham here
[19:19] <Kilos> hiya garaman 
[19:20] <superfly> hi garaman
[19:20] <superfly> cocooncrash: are you almost ready for the move?
[19:21] <cocooncrash> superfly: Getting there slowly :-/
[19:21] <cocooncrash> Still trying to decide what to ship and so on
[19:21] <superfly> *nod*
[19:22] <superfly> cocooncrash: are you paying for the move yourself, or is the company paying for it?
[19:22] <cocooncrash> superfly: I've got an allowance to spend on the move
[19:22] <superfly> ah, ok
[19:35] <Kilos> night guys. keep cool
[19:38]  * nuvolari facepalms
[19:38] <nuvolari> the email came, the email went...
[19:39] <nuvolari> and I miss another meeting
[19:39] <nuvolari> :'(
[19:40] <nuvolari> where are you ging cocooncrash ? :-/
[19:40] <cocooncrash> nuvolari: California
[19:41] <nuvolari> meh. Why is everyone leaving ZA?
[19:42] <Kerbero> sommer
[19:42] <nuvolari> cocooncrash: best of wishes!
[19:42] <Kerbero> want dis lekker hier in die buiteland
[19:42] <nuvolari> naand Kerbero 
[19:42] <Kerbero> dis nie eers koud nie
[19:42] <Kerbero> hallo
[19:42] <nuvolari> Kerbero: ballito is ook nie koud nie, en dit is nie buiteland nie
[19:51] <bmg505> o_O rather the devil you know than the one you don't
[19:52]  * Kerbero ken nie ballito nie
[19:52] <bmg505> die sosialistiese republiek van california is nogals lekker, behalwe dat jy in die kak kom as jy 'n krimineel skiet
[19:53] <Kerbero> maar dit lyk vir my ons gaan nie 'n wit kersfees in Europa he^ hierdie jaar nie
[19:53] <cocooncrash> nuvolari: Shot
[19:53] <cocooncrash> nuvolari: I'll be back in a few years :)
[19:54] <bmg505> kom terug met sak vol usd as jy R150.00/$ kry, dis soos 'n jackpot :)
[19:54] <nuvolari> bmg505: klink baie soos ZA, kriminele het meer regte as die eerlike mense
[19:55] <Squirm> night all
[19:56] <bmg505> nite
[19:56] <bmg505> ja daar kom jy in die kak, en die krimineel tree af op jou omkoste met die hofsaak teen jou
[20:21] <sdehaan> superfly: affirmative
[20:21] <superfly> sdehaan: a bit too late I'm afraid...
[20:22] <superfly> but thanks for showing up anyways :-)
[20:22] <sdehaan> hrm howso?
[20:22] <zeref> hmmm, is it possible to install 2 linux disto's on a flash drive??
[20:23] <sdehaan> superfly: ah ok
[20:23] <superfly> sdehaan: yeah, we just wanted to see how many folks were present for the meeting
[20:59] <cocooncrash> bmg505: Heh, might have to wait a while for that exchange rate
[23:17] <zeref> aahh so confused