[00:00] <milamber> RokcStar: doesn't rmdir only remove empty directories?
[00:00] <milamber> RokcStar: rm -r maybe?
[00:01] <elneif> i know i have only a few mb left, such as 800mb or less,
[00:01] <RokcStar> mila, perhaps yea..i just gave him the command
[00:01] <RokcStar> im not sure if he will use this under windows or linux..
[00:02] <elneif> ok, lets see if that will do the trick
[00:02] <elneif> will be back in a few mints
[00:02] <elneif> no under, ubutu recvoery
[00:03] <RokcStar> type rmdir --help
[00:03] <almoxarife> what is kde version of synaptic?
[00:04] <EvilResistance> almoxarife:  try asking in #kubuntu
[00:04] <EvilResistance> :P
[00:05] <histo> !info kde | almoxarife
[00:06] <OerHeks> almoxarife, muon
[00:08] <histo> almoxarife: you could apt-cache showpkg kubuntu-desktop  and see
[00:08] <almoxarife> EvilResistance and histo, not as sexy enough a question as ones that allow the script kiddies to froth at the mouth showing off their terminal skills when something as simple as a click in nautilus would have done the same?
[00:08] <abstrakt> !chrome
[00:08] <histo> almoxarife: We're not running kde
[00:08] <almoxarife> histo: how about if I just look it up in synaptic
[00:08] <histo> almoxarife: there ya go
[00:08] <abstrakt> is defacto "chrome" available for ubuntu? or just "chromium"
[00:08] <abstrakt> I can't remember the difference between them really
[00:09] <abstrakt> google is not much help on this angle
[00:09] <almoxarife> abstrakt: chromium-browser
[00:09] <almoxarife> !info chromium-browser
[00:10] <abstrakt> almoxarife, yesh I know that chromium is available via PPA, what about "chrome" proper though?
[00:10] <histo> !info kde-window-manager | almoxarife
[00:10] <abstrakt> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsers doesn't actually say anything about a chrome package
[00:10] <histo> almoxarife: there ya go
[00:10] <abstrakt> only chromium
[00:10] <almoxarife> !info chrome
[00:10] <abstrakt> almoxarife, isn't chromium like the development version of chrome?
[00:10] <ok_wait> does anybody know how to configure notify in unity as notifyconf doesn't apply the settings it shows anymore. i used to have mine to time out after 4 seconds and it stays there for thirty million seconds now. is there a new configuration file to this that notifyconf doesn't write to anymore?
[00:11] <almoxarife> abstrakt: it is, although there are stable versions too
[00:12] <almoxarife> ok_wait: live a little, use the nightlies chromium
[00:12] <ok_wait> why would i want to update chromium nightly?
[00:13] <Charybdis> almoxarife: You use Chromium?
[00:13] <almoxarife> Charybdis: I do, been doing so now for long time
[00:13] <Charybdis> almoxarife: Do you ever have issues with buttons (like java buttons) not working sometimes?
[00:13] <abstrakt> almoxarife, so how do I get the stable version(s)?
[00:15] <almoxarife> Charybdis: I can't say I noticed, no, it may be a disconnect between open-java and chromium, I did notice for a while back where chromium was asking me each time to allow java applets to run, have not noticed that for a while
[00:15] <lfuser-866> can I use my VM as a local webserver
[00:15] <almoxarife> abstrakt: you want the chromium stable? install chromium-browser
[00:16] <paulsomebody> Hello. Do anyone know how can I change a color of the _panel_ on the lock screen on Oneric? Not the background, but the panel itself.
[00:16] <paulsomebody> I would like it to match the color of the upper panel in Unity, is it possible?
[00:17] <almoxarife> Charybdis: I can't think of using another browser since I have gotten chromium set to my taste, good thing ubuntu includes it default
[00:18] <Charybdis> almoxarife: I gave it a good go a while back.  It was about 95% of what I am used to dealing with.  If I could get it to stop popunders, I'd say it was 100%.
[00:18] <almoxarife> paulsomebody: you want to match what? to the panel?
[00:18] <almoxarife> Charybdis: that's simple, got a min?
[00:18] <paulsomebody> almoxarife: Yes, I would like it to match the color of a panel in the Ubuntu Mono Dark.
[00:18] <paulsomebody> almoxarife: Upper panel in Unity.
[00:19] <Charybdis> almoxarife: Sure, feel free to pm me.
[00:19] <paulsomebody> almoxarife: Do you know, if it is feasible?
[00:21] <jakr> if i install mint onto my ubuntu partition, how can i edit grub2 bootloader from mint?
[00:24] <rawsum> #phamily
[00:25] <milamber> !grub | jakr
[00:26] <usr13> jakr: The mint installer will install grub for you.
[00:27] <usr13> jakr: ... no need to edit the bootloader
[00:29] <jakr> usr13: right now i am dual booting xp and ubuntu.  Will i have to reinstall xp if i use mint's bootloader?
[00:31] <usr13> No
[00:32] <usr13> usr13: Mint's bootloader is the same, and the installer does just like Ubuntu's and will look for other OS's to set grub to boot to.
[00:37] <ok_wait> so has anybody figured out how to configure notify in 11.10 yet? i found the config file at /usr/share/notifyosdconf/default.def and changed the timeout to 4sec and it's still not affected.
[00:37] <bfri> does anyone know of a good vpn client program that has audio capabilities?
[00:41] <paulsomebody> almoxarife: Okay, I assume you do not know that.
[00:43] <twocarlo> is there a way to change the cursors
[00:43] <twocarlo> mouse cursors
[00:43] <twocarlo> ?
[00:43] <almoxarife> paulsomebody: I don't understand what you want to do no, if I was wanting to color match the panel to the desktop I would decide what desktop background best fits the panel
[00:45] <paulsomebody> almoxarife: My background is fine. I want this thing to match the color of the panel, since I cannot see the language indicator. http://tombuntu.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/ubuntu1110_lockscreen.jpg
[00:47] <bfri> does anyone know of a good vpn client program that has audio capabilities?
[00:47] <icez> Not sure if this would be better in a networking channel, but... Basically I have multiple machines with the same IP address (and I can't change them.) I have a machine with multiple network interfaces, and I need a way to launch a web browser that's tied to one specific interface. Any ideas how I could go about it?
[00:47] <yeats> bfri: can you explain what your actual need is?
[00:48] <joallard> I DONT WANT THE UBUNTU CHANNEL
[00:49] <bfri> yeats i want to remote in to my desktop and be able to not only have a visual but sound also
[00:49] <StevenR> bfri: use a network aware audio daemon over the VPN? such as pulse audio
[00:49] <twocarlo> well thanks anyway peeps happy ubuntuing
[00:50] <bfri> stevenR can that be used through the web or do i have to be on the same network?
[00:51] <dbugger> hello guys
[00:51] <yeats> bfri: when you say "vpn", do you mean "virtual private network"?
[00:51] <blackshirt> hello
[00:51] <blackshirt> dbugger
[00:51] <bfri> yeats yet
[00:51] <almoxarife> paulsomebody: I see now what you mean, I don't have any answers though, not positive but look at 'greeter' background
[00:51] <bfri> yeats yet
[00:51] <bfri> yeats yes like a remote desktop
[00:52] <paulsomebody> almoxarife: Thanks for the direction.
[00:52] <dbugger> I need some help. I have a new computer and Ive installed natty 64bits. But ive notices when I have the terminal on full screen that I can see a vertical flickering on my monitor. Why could that be? Ive installed the closed source drivers from Nvidia...
[00:52] <qmanjr5> Every time I plug my USB in (Sandisk Cruzer with U3 on it), GParted freezes. What's up with this?
[00:54] <hacked_kernel> is Qt auto shipped with Ubuntu?
[00:54] <almoxarife> bfri: what you are trying to do is a two parter, video and sound, you need to pipe the sound from the host to the client, it can be done, 'paprefs' I think is the thing you need
[00:54] <almoxarife> !info paprefs
[00:54] <bfri> almoxarife i really just want the audio
[00:54] <RingZer0> just upgraded hardware drivers for nvidia, now X wont start
[00:55] <RingZer0> any thoughts on how to roll back a driver?
[00:55] <RingZer0> or at least start xorg config from scratch?
[00:55] <almoxarife> bfri: paprefs!
[00:55]  * RingZer0 is very familiar with linux servers but is new to running it as a home OS
[00:56] <SwashBuckla> how do I launch Unity from .xinitrc?
[00:56] <SwashBuckla> I want to add some custom commands, but still keep Unity
[00:56] <icez> RingZer0: try moving/removing /etc/X11/xorg.conf and restarting X?
[00:56] <bfri> almoxarife do you know of a good tutorial for that
[00:57] <paulsomebody> RingZer0: Unless you deliberately written it, there is no xorg.conf on Ubuntu 11.10 by default.
[00:57] <paulsomebody> RingZer0: My best guess would be to remove the associated package, then the driver should deactivate.
[00:59] <qmanjr5> Every time I plug my USB in (Sandisk Cruzer with U3 on it), GParted freezes. What's up with this?
[00:59] <paulsomebody> RingZer0: Or, alternatively, you can use 'lsmod' to list all activated driver modules, and then use 'sudo modprobe -r <module_name>' to remove that driver.
[00:59] <paulsomebody> RingZer0: I meant, driver module.
[01:00] <Ibis> Anyone using an intel based z64 motherboard and having any issues with it? Specifically, network issues.
[01:01] <wookienz> hi, im looking for a find command that will look through all the files in a directory for a search term, then return the filename. Any takers/
[01:01] <RingZer0> icez: thanks for responding, did not work
[01:02] <RingZer0> I have removed /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:02] <paulsomebody> RingZer0: Did you read my response?
[01:04] <hacked_kernel> is Qt auto shipped with Ubuntu?
[01:04] <RingZer0> still wont boot... (EE) Failed to load module "nv" (module does not exist, 0)  Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has version 285.05.09, but the NVIDIA driver component has version 280.13.  Please make sure the kernel module and all NVIDIA driver components have the same version.
[01:04] <RingZer0> paulsomebody: I will try that now
[01:04] <xangua> hacked_kernel: no, you may wanna try Kubuntu (kde)
[01:04] <ki7rw> why am i getting this when trying to start shorewall in ubuntu? Please read about Debian specific customization in.....
[01:05] <paulsomebody> RingZer0: Use 'sudo modprobe' to add back modules if it won't help.
[01:05] <RingZer0> I did sudo lsmod | grep nv
[01:05] <RingZer0> paulsomebody: okay
[01:05] <MrPumpkincitis> when responding to someone who answered my question, how do I highlight his name in color?
[01:06] <trism> qmanjr5: I had to use http://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2550/~/removing-u3-launchpad-on-a-pc to remove u3 before my cruzer was usable (from windows)
[01:06] <paulsomebody> MrPumpkincitis: I don't know about color, but to address someone directly, you just type in their name.
[01:06] <SwashBuckla> how do I launch Unity from .xinitrc?
[01:06] <paulsomebody> SwashBuckla: Why would you want to do such a thing?
[01:07] <Porkminer> #building_ics_source
[01:07] <MrPumpkincitis> paul somebody, you just responded and your username is highlighted in yellow
[01:07] <SwashBuckla> paulsomebody: I want to add other commands to launch on login
[01:07] <paulsomebody> SwashBuckla: Would it not be simpler to add them via 'Startup Applications'?
[01:07] <MrPumpkincitis> paul somebody: you must responded and your username is highlighted in yellow
[01:08] <SwashBuckla> paulsomebody: I didn't know that existed. Will look into it :)
[01:08] <paulsomebody> SwashBuckla: Wow.
[01:08] <paulsomebody> SwashBuckla: People usually learn Linux from the GUI to command line, not the other way around. :)
[01:09] <RingZer0> Not sure I understand this:  sudo lsmod | grep nv produces: nvidia    11919144  0
[01:09] <MrPumpkincitis> why do they call the root    root
[01:09] <RingZer0> but sudo modprobe -r nvidia produces: FATAL: Module nvidia not found.
[01:09] <paulsomebody> MrPumpkincitis: Not for me. It's look depends on the client you use.
[01:10] <MrPumpkincitis> thanks
[01:10] <paulsomebody> RingZer0: Hmm. Have you tried removing the package?
[01:10] <RingZer0> which package?
[01:10] <paulsomebody> RingZer0: It looks to me, that version of the driver module in your kernel is different from the one you have installed, which produces the error you mentioned.
[01:11] <RingZer0> i've never used a linux GUI before, so when I used the "hardware driver installer" i am not sure what happened.  I just downloaded and installed the (Recommended) one
[01:11] <paulsomebody> RingZer0: I have got that once, when the installation got interrupted.
[01:11] <paulsomebody> RingZer0: I just re-installed it and things got back to green zone.
[01:11] <RingZer0> man, but I havge everything setup perfect.
[01:12] <qmanjr5> trism, I can't do that...U3 doesn't even launch on Linux
[01:12] <RingZer0> all of my shell windows, my ssh keys, everything
[01:12] <RingZer0> can you think of any way to just "reset" video modes?
[01:12] <paulsomebody> RingZer0: Not the system. :) The driver.
[01:12] <trism> qmanjr5: as I said, I had to do it from windows, I don't know of another way to remove it
[01:12] <RingZer0> so, how would i use apt to search for the driver?
[01:13] <RingZer0> apt, pkgtool, yum, or whatever it uses.
[01:13] <SwashBuckla> paulsomebody: so adding xsnow to Startup Applications didn't work. What happens: xsnow launches, and then the nautilus desktop loads and blocks it out
[01:13] <unreal-dude> commandline searching for apt is `sudo apt-cache search packagename`
[01:14] <paulsomebody> SwashBuckla: It definitely works for other applications, must be something app-specific.
[01:14] <RingZer0> so, does ubuntu use apt to manage drivers?
[01:14] <paulsomebody> RingZer0: Yes.
[01:14] <blackshirt> unreal-dude not really need sudo for searching
[01:14] <SwashBuckla> paulsomebody: yes this is likely, xsnow requires the desktop to load before xsnow
[01:14] <SwashBuckla> because it is a desktop overlay, similar to conky
[01:15] <paulsomebody> SwashBuckla: Add an option to launch it after the desktop is loaded.
[01:15] <paulsomebody> SwashBuckla: I think it can do that, look in the manual.
[01:15] <SwashBuckla> paulsomebody: what manual
[01:15] <SwashBuckla> ?
[01:15] <paulsomebody> SwashBuckla: For xsnow, of course.
[01:16] <SwashBuckla> ah :)
[01:16] <paulsomebody> SwashBuckla: You open the terminal, type the 'man xsnow' and enjoy. :)
[01:17] <bbbbbbbb> i just accidentally closed firefox, but the session is still running ("<
[01:17] <RingZer0> lol
[01:18] <bbbbbbbb> is there a way to reopen the running session?
[01:18] <RingZer0> that happens to me all the time on windows
[01:18] <paulsomebody> bbbbbbbb: I don't think so, it probably just hung up.
[01:18] <paulsomebody> bbbbbbbb: Open the System Monitor, kill the 'firefox' process and start it again. This should help.
[01:18] <RingZer0> find a way to reattach a zombie process to an xord window id
[01:18] <RingZer0> sudo killall -9 firefox
[01:19] <paulsomebody> RingZer0: GNU/Linux is the totally unholy system — demons, zombies.
[01:19] <paulsomebody> RingZer0: And the USER commands them all!
[01:19] <RingZer0> back in the day, i used slackware, and loved it
[01:19] <Charybdis> Slackware is awesome.
[01:19] <RingZer0> but 95% of what i do is behind console, behind screen / ssh or vim/emacs
[01:19] <aitd> maybe someone know the reason...would be grateful for some advice
[01:20] <Charybdis> aitd: What's the problem?
[01:20] <paulsomebody> aitd: Reason for what?
[01:20] <RingZer0> i remember using the .bat files for windows 3.1 to create slackware bootable 3.5'' floppys
[01:20] <bbbbbbbb> okay... just found out i didnt close it, i just moved it to another desktop without knowing. no idea how, was that some accidental keyboard shortcut?
[01:20] <aitd> well if i try to open some wikipedia link..on linux (xubuntu) its very slow...seems something is blocking
[01:21] <aitd> on windows open normaly
[01:21] <aitd> system is...xubuntu...i used different browsers..always same story
[01:21] <RingZer0> ya, my ubuntu on my lappy is very slow as well, i thought it just did not have the correct driver, so i tried the "recommended" one, and boom, no more Xwindows
[01:22] <aitd> its just on wikipedia site...here..pretty strange
[01:22] <paulsomebody> aitd: I am quite sure it is just Wikipedia, not you.
[01:22] <aitd> using "tor"...the issue is solved
[01:23] <SwashBuckla> paulsomebody: nah there's no option for loading xsnow after the desktop loads
[01:23] <paulsomebody> aitd: For objective measurement, try speedtest.com — it will tell you if the internet speed is lower on Ubuntu.
[01:23] <SwashBuckla> I feel silly for looking for it actually
[01:23] <paulsomebody> SwashBuckla: Then use a 'sleep' option and a bash script.
[01:24] <SwashBuckla> awww
[01:24] <aitd> the download speed is same like on windows
[01:25] <ok_wait> can't configure notify anymore? remove the notify-osd package provided by ubuntu and install this one http://www.webupd8.org/2010/05/finally-easy-way-to-customize-notify.html by leolik
[01:25] <aitd> it hangs on bits.wikimedia.org
[01:27] <Kimble> How can I make sure a crontab runs even when no users are logged in?
[01:27] <SwashBuckla> paulsomebody: yay. Good idea :)
[01:27] <Charybdis> Kimble: set it us as root.
[01:27] <SwashBuckla> it's kinda hacky, I'd rather use .xinitrc, but this works
[01:28] <paulsomebody> aitd: I think there are simply some maintenance works.
[01:28] <Kimble> Charybdis: that's what I suspected. Thank you for confirming :)  Now, get back to spinning!
[01:28] <paulsomebody> SwashBuckla: I am not geeky enough to know how to use .xinitrc — sorry about this. :)
[01:29] <Charybdis> Kimble: Thank you!  You are the first person that has gotten my nick.
[01:29] <SwashBuckla> ah that's cool. This does the job just fine.. I suspect it will fail if the desktop loads slower than the sleep time though
[01:29] <paulsomebody> SwashBuckla: But I am pretty sure that if you want to do this so badly you can simply google it. :/
[01:29] <SwashBuckla> yeah I've tried that
[01:29] <Kimble> Charybdis: I'll tell you the truth - I had to look it up. But I recognised your nick as being significant - do I get credit for that?
[01:29] <Charybdis> Hahah.
[01:29] <Charybdis> Kimble: If I had a way of tracking, sure.
[01:30] <Kimble> lol
[01:30] <Kimble> Well, cheers for the assist :) Tattie-bye :)
[01:33] <ibodi> vbox guest ram max=50% host ram, is it correct?
[01:38] <Scott0> where is cgi-bin supposed to be in ubuntu?
[01:39] <Scott0> having some issue getting php cgi to work
[01:40] <IHateHavingToReg> How do I move an entire directory tree? mv directory/* . ???
[01:40] <IHateHavingToReg> (including subdirectories, is what I mean by "directory tree")
[01:40] <abu-bakr> cannot get a software raid 1 to boot.. can anyone help?
[01:41] <abu-bakr> Raid anyone?
[01:41] <abu-bakr> !raid
[01:42] <Guest24439> I have somehow changed my admin/root password to an unknown password, not sure how i did it but that is beside the point, I've looked everywhere but can't seem to find how to change it so that I can access my admin account, anyone know how?
[01:43] <mhiku> how can i install memcached mysql not only mysql.
[01:44] <Ibis> mhiku: Join #mysql
[01:44] <mhiku> it think theres an apt-get install mysql-server libmemcached that i can use
[01:45] <mhiku> its ubuntu..
[01:45] <luk> name
[01:46] <Ibis> mhiku: Try: $ apt-get install php5-memcache
[01:47] <abu-bakr> cannot get a software raid 1 to boot.. can anyone help?
[01:47] <Ibis> mhiku: With sudo apt-get install memcached          or sudo apt-get install libmemcached
[01:47] <somsip> mhiku: you need to be sure whether you want the memcache client or the memcahced client
[01:48] <omarstfollower> How do i install flash player 11 in ubuntu 11.10?
[01:49] <xangua> omarstfollower: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[01:50] <omarstfollower> any must do´s for ubuntu 11.10 after installation?
[01:52] <MrPumpkincitis> Hello Hackers
[01:53] <Charybdis> Most of us are ethical, even.
[01:53] <Charybdis> LOL.
[01:53] <MrPumpkincitis> ;>)
[01:53] <mhiku> im not using php here, im using mysql as a server for memcached.. i believe its libmemcached.so if anyone successfull here. please teach us
[01:55] <somsip> mhiku: this might help http://code.google.com/p/memcached/wiki/Clients
[01:55] <jasonmchristos> need help removing rtkit!
[01:56] <somsip> mhiku: hhang ok - you're using mysql as a server for memcached? I don't understand why. memcached is a purely ram-based server
[01:56] <JonnyR> what you done so far jasonmchristos?
[01:59] <mrmj> guys why cant i log in as root or run a file in root?
[01:59] <mrmj> did they change the command?
[02:00] <somsip> !root | mrmj
[02:00] <warfaren> mrmj: what command are you trying to run+
[02:00] <mrmj> i get that.. i just cannot run a file at all
[02:01] <JonnyR> what file is it?
[02:01] <mrmj> i cant get it to open from the terminal, and right clicking to run as root only ask for password and doesnt open it
[02:01] <warfaren> if you give us the exact command and error message it would be easier to help
[02:01] <Sinjet> mrmj: What type of file?
[02:01] <mrmj> when i double click and run in terminal it opens a new one so i cant log as root there
[02:01] <mrmj> its a .run file
[02:02] <warfaren> well try opening a terminal normally, cd to the folder where the file is located in
[02:02] <warfaren> then type sudo ./whatever the filename is.run
[02:02] <Sinjet> mrmj: sudo ./foo.run
[02:03] <warfaren> you may have to do chmod +x on the file aswell, if it doesn't have executing permissions
[02:03] <warfaren> you'll notice if you get permission denied
[02:04] <mrmj> i checked the box on it, should i do chmod also?
[02:04] <MrPumpkincitis> what was that?
[02:04] <Charybdis> That was a netsplit.
[02:05] <warfaren> mrmj: nah, checking the box is enough
[02:05] <milamber> !netsplit
[02:05] <mrmj> hmm still cant open it
[02:05] <MrPumpkincitis> :) thanks
[02:06] <warfaren> did you run sudo ./filename.run?
[02:06] <warfaren> filename being the name of the file
[02:07] <mrmj> oh it works, but i need to kill X because its a driver
[02:07] <mrmj> :)
[02:07] <warfaren> ah, the nvidia driver isn't it
[02:07] <mrmj> yes lol
[02:07] <mrmj> will it work with ubuntu 11.1? the ancient driver
[02:08] <warfaren> yeah, i've installed that myself too. you should go to a virtual terminal (ctrl+alt+f1) login and type sudo gdm stop (this will kill your X and all the programs you launched in it)
[02:08] <warfaren> then go ahead and run it just like you just did
[02:08] <warfaren> oops
[02:08] <mrmj> right on ill try it
[02:08] <warfaren> sudo service gdm stop
[02:08] <warfaren> my bad, i always get that wrong sorry
[02:08] <mrmj> or is it sudo service lightdm stop?
[02:09] <gavin_> hi
[02:09] <warfaren> perhaps? i run ubuntu 10.04 with the default gnome and i use gdm
[02:09] <gavin_> does anyone know any xhtml website development
[02:09] <mrmj> cool i can try both
[02:09] <warfaren> ok
[02:09] <mrmj> ty very much
[02:09] <mrmj> :)
[02:09] <warfaren> no problem let me know how it went when you are done
[02:10] <gavin_> #off-topic
[02:10] <mrmj> cool will do
[02:10] <gavin_> hello
[02:10] <warfaren> gavin_: just stating your actual question is probably the best
[02:10] <gavin_> I'm currently struggling on the website development
[02:10] <omarstfollower> gavin_, whats the problem?
[02:11] <jasonmchristos> need help removing rtkit!
[02:11] <gavin_> I have to use notepad to design the whole website and it won't validate with the xhtml 1.0 strict
[02:11] <dr_willis> !info rtkit
[02:11] <gavin_> my website won't validate
[02:11] <warfaren> oh dear i thought you meant rootkit lol
[02:11] <gavin_> so I don't know if this is the best place to ask
[02:11] <somsip> gavin_: #html
[02:11] <gavin_> #html
[02:11] <dr_willis> gavin_:  have to use 'notepad.exe' from windows?
[02:11] <almoxarife> jasonmchristos: assuming you mean the package, remove it
[02:11] <gavin_> yes
[02:12] <dr_willis> gavin_:  dare we ask why?
[02:12] <gavin_> but I have to save it in a .html format
[02:12] <gavin_> its my uni work and at uni, I've been asked to use notepad
[02:12] <gavin_> to recreate the doc type and stuff
[02:12] <almoxarife> !ot
[02:13] <gavin_> but each time when I'm trying to create something in my .html file, it won't validate
[02:13] <somsip> gavin_: type "/join #html"
[02:13] <omarstfollower> gavin_,  join #ubuntu-offtopic or #html
[02:14] <gavin_> thanks
[02:16] <hendaus> help me please
[02:16] <dr_willis> hendaus:  and the problem is?
[02:16] <ohzie> gavin_: the question is, why does your school assignment require your finished product validates to nearly 12 year old guidelines
[02:16] <jasonmchristos> need help removing rtkit!
[02:16] <gavin_> what do you mean 12 year old guidelines?
[02:17] <dr_willis> jasonmchristos:  how did you install rtkit?
[02:17] <ohzie> gavin_: xhtml 1.0 strict was published in January 2000, revised in january 2002
[02:17] <gavin_> ohzie: what do you mean by 12 year old guidelines?
[02:17] <IceStorm> hy
[02:17] <jasonmchristos> dr_willis: I didn't must be a rootkit
[02:17] <ohzie> (there are newer and better things)
[02:17] <JonnyR> jasonmchristos, have you installed rkhunter?
[02:17] <JonnyR> and chkrootkit?
[02:17] <hendaus> dr_willis,  i have two hd installed one is primary master ide and the second primary on sata does it conflict anything on my pc?
[02:17] <JonnyR> give them a run
[02:18] <trism> rtkit is a recommend of pulseaudio
[02:18] <gavin_> ohzie: I've no idea but on the assignment that I was being given, it told us to use the xhtml 1.0 strict6
[02:18] <ohzie> jasonmchristos: Out of curiosity, do you know how you might have acquired a rootkit?
[02:18] <jasonmchristos> JonnyR: no
[02:18] <dr_willis> I dident think sata even used Master/slave.... hendaus
[02:18] <Charybdis> dr_willis: They do.  They are labeled as master and slave, but they don't require special jumpering.
[02:19] <jasonmchristos> ohzie: either by exploits , or they are packaged in the repos, or someone got to my computer wile i was away
[02:19] <dr_willis> hendaus:  ive used IDE drives alongside sata drives with no issues.
[02:19] <ohzie> jasonmchristos: how did you become aware of a rootkit. That may give us incite on how to direct you to remove it.
[02:19] <MrPumpkincitis> Is it best to learn the command line stuff  before learning Ubuntu GUI? Somewhat like learning DOS before Windows?
[02:19] <JonnyR> jasonmchristos, install rkhunter and chkrootkit if you can and scan your system.
[02:19] <jasonmchristos> ohzie: dont think it was physical intrusion if they would have that much effort they wouldnt name it rtkit
[02:19] <brightspark> hendaus, I had a similar setup recently, the only issue I find is that the BIOS doesn't always allow me to boot into the one I want.
[02:19] <JonnyR> MrPumpkincitis, learn the command line if you can first. :)
[02:19] <dr_willis> MrPumpkincitis:  not really. but its good to learn the command line stuff eventually.
[02:19] <MrPumpkincitis> thanks
[02:20] <MrPumpkincitis> ha
[02:20] <jasonmchristos> JonnyR: chkrootkit says wpa_supplicant is a packetsniffer and also dhclient
[02:20] <dr_willis> MrPumpkincitis:  the CLI is so handy.
[02:20] <ohzie> MrPumpkincitis: depends on what you want to do. If you're just learning linux, use the gui and delve into the command line as necessary. The command line does a lot of things much more cleanly and efficiently than the gui.
[02:20] <MrPumpkincitis> thanks to both of you
[02:20] <Charybdis> jasonmchristos: Are you talking about the package rtkit, or a rootkit?
[02:20] <hendaus> dr_willis,  ok  i have the ide installed as primary master and using ubuntu and the new sata 250gb installed as sata primary how can i mount this on ubuntu
[02:20] <Charybdis> There is a serious package named rtkit.
[02:20] <MrPumpkincitis> got it
[02:20] <jasonmchristos> Charybdis: i didnt install any package rtkit
[02:20] <dr_willis> hendaus:  via the proper mount command it the normal way
[02:20] <dr_willis> !mount | hendaus
[02:20] <Charybdis> jasonmchristos: You don't have to.
[02:21] <Charybdis> jasonmchristos: It's part of pulseaudio.
[02:21] <jasonmchristos> Charybdis: how do i pull up info on the package then
[02:21] <MrPumpkincitis> ohzie are you from oz
[02:21] <MrPumpkincitis> downunder?
[02:21] <Charybdis> apt-cache search rtkit
[02:21] <ohzie> MrPumpkincitis: No, sir. I am from Northern Virginia. Currently residing in Austin, Texas.
[02:21] <MrPumpkincitis> ok, thanks
[02:22] <milamber> Charybdis: if you do apt-cache policy it will tell you what is installed also
[02:22] <Charybdis> Thank's for the info, milamber.
[02:22] <hendaus> dr_willis,  can u help me please how to do it coz i am really confused
[02:23] <jasonmchristos> how about aptitude instead of apt
[02:23] <Charybdis> hendaus: What is the issue?
[02:23] <dr_willis> hendaus:  read the info at the MOUNT help just mentioned?   what filesystem is on the hard disk in question?
[02:23] <hendaus> Charybdis,  how can i know if my new hd detected on ubuntu and i cant see it
[02:24] <ohzie> hendaus: "duso fdisk -L"
[02:24] <Charybdis> hendaus: Try typing: cat /proc/partitions and see if there is a new drive there.
[02:24] <ohzie> hendaus: or dmesg | tail
[02:24] <hendaus> dr_willis,  this is a NEW HD
[02:24] <Charybdis> Then do an fdisk -l of the new drive.
[02:24] <Charybdis> Unless you haven't formatted it yet.
[02:24] <jasonmchristos> why is there so many processes running under top
[02:24] <dr_willis> hendaus:  then you need to partion, and format it as needed...
[02:24] <Charybdis> jasonmchristos: Your system has processes running all the time.
[02:24] <dr_willis> hendaus:  this to be used only on a linux system?
[02:25] <jasonmchristos> Charybdis: i cant keep track of all of those
[02:25] <Charybdis> jasonmchristos: I know.  That's why you keep your system locked down as tight as you can and only use trusted sources.
[02:25] <jasonmchristos> Charybdis: is there a way to redue it to say 5 or 10
[02:25] <Charybdis> jasonmchristos: Hell no.  Those are system files.
[02:25] <Charybdis> jasonmchristos: Do you mean the display?
[02:25] <hendaus> major minor  #blocks  name
[02:25] <hendaus>  251        0     497796 ramzswap0
[02:25] <hendaus>    8        0   39121488 sda
[02:25] <hendaus>    8        1    1998848 sda1
[02:25] <hendaus>    8        2   37121024 sda2
[02:25] <FloodBot1> hendaus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:25] <hendaus>    8       16  244198584 sdb
[02:25] <jasonmchristos> Charybdis: i like to know whats going on though
[02:26] <Charybdis> jasonmchristos: Why would you want to do that?
[02:26] <jasonmchristos> Charybdis: why not, people act like knowing is a bad thing
[02:26] <Charybdis> hendaus: sdb is your new drive.
[02:26] <hendaus> Charybdis,  see the result
[02:27] <Charybdis> hendaus: Now you need to format it.
[02:27] <hendaus> Charybdis,  so its working?
[02:27] <Charybdis> hendaus: I use fdisk for that.
[02:27] <Charybdis> Yeah, it looks like it is.
[02:27] <ohzie> jasonmchristos: Linux is very very modular. You may not be running any applications at the moment, but top is going to show all of the processed, including each little process that has anything to do with any services or your gui(whether it be gnome or kde or xfce)
[02:27] <Charybdis> That 244_ entry is the new drive.
[02:27] <Charybdis> It's just not formatted yet.
[02:27] <Charybdis> jasonmchristos: That's every driver, every file, every daemon, every process the system needed to boot and run and maintain itself, still running.
[02:28] <hendaus> Charybdis,  but there is no conflict if i have the two hd installed one is primary master and the second is sata primary
[02:28] <dmorrison42> I can't get my ssh server to authenticate using keys. I've checked my config files, I've rewriten my keys, and I've rebooted. But it still won't work. Any ideas?
[02:28] <Charybdis> hendaus: Try: sudo fdisk /dev/sdb to format it.
[02:28] <jasonmchristos> wll there has got to be a way to reduce all of this
[02:28] <dr_willis> err.. fdisk partitons...  then you format..
[02:28] <Charybdis> hendaus: Absolutely not.  sata and pata do not relate to each other.
[02:28] <Charybdis> hendaus: You can have as many sata drives as your system can hold and it won't interfere with pata drives.
[02:29] <Charybdis> pata = ide
[02:29] <jasonmchristos> if i dont know every process i cannot spot a trojan process
[02:29] <jasonmchristos> thats why!
[02:29] <dr_willis> jasonmchristos:  its not like the process is going to be called 'Trojan process' anyway....
[02:29] <almoxarife> jasonmchristos: since you want to know who the little machine is talking to, type this in a terminal        lsof -I     <-- after all, its what's outside the machine that is evil
[02:29] <Charybdis> jasonmchristos: Here's a hint... if you are that paranoid, pull the plug, you don't need to be on a computer.
[02:29] <hendaus> Charybdis,  ok everything i show you is ok
[02:29] <jasonmchristos> dr_willis: thats my point on why i want to know what all of these are
[02:29] <Charybdis> hendaus: Yes.  It's normal.
[02:30] <Charybdis> hendaus: I'm sending you a private message.
[02:30] <dr_willis> jasonmchristos:  you will NEVER know what all of them are unless you spend a lotof time googling about.. and even then. the badguy process will make its name appear as a normal process..
[02:30] <mrmj> so wow lol
[02:30] <jasonmchristos> ok i did the lsof -I
[02:31] <dr_willis> rootkits spend a lot of time learnng how to hide :)
[02:31] <mrmj> i went into tyy and saw updates so i rebooted and installed - 1 failed but it added the driver i need in the repositories
[02:31] <jasonmchristos> that reminds me how do i strip down my kernal from generic to only the drivers in use
[02:31] <mrmj> :)
[02:31] <dandan_> dd
[02:31] <mrmj> but it failed to install
[02:31] <mrmj> nvidia-glx-legacy:
[02:31] <mrmj>  Depends: xserver-xorg-core but it is not going to be installed
[02:31] <mrmj> that was my error
[02:31] <jasonmchristos> almoxarife: -I invalid character
[02:32] <mrmj> in synaptic trying to install it
[02:32] <almoxarife> jasonmchristos: that would be because its  an 'eye' not an 'el'
[02:33] <jasonmchristos> almoxarife: no caps
[02:33] <jasonmchristos> Does anyone have a detailed overview of all processes in the default lucid install ? PLEASE
[02:33] <almoxarife> jasonmchristos: no
[02:34] <jasonmchristos> almoxarife: why not
[02:34] <mrmj> any ideas about this error?
[02:34] <poz> I need help.
[02:34] <mrmj> nvidia-glx-legacy:
[02:34] <mrmj>  Depends: xserver-xorg-core but it is not going to be installed
[02:34] <poz> anyone here that can help me?
[02:34] <jasonmchristos> how about just a list of the default processes
[02:34] <wh1zz0> Guy's I'm trying to login to an ssh box from my ubuntu on port 333 but when I type ssh -l user -p 333 ipaddress/hostname I get this error ---->
[02:34] <wh1zz0> Protocol major versions differ: 2 vs. 1 ... Please help
[02:35] <poz> I need help
[02:35] <wh1zz0> Why can't I connect?
[02:35] <poz> can anyone here help me?
[02:35] <zkxs> vmware has eaten my usb drivers.  Is there a way to reload them?
[02:35] <Tech-1> just state your question poz
[02:35] <Tech-1> sheesh
[02:35] <poz> I installed the program called desktop from the software center and now i do not know where to access it
[02:35] <milamber> wh1zz0: add a -1 to your ssh
[02:35] <jasonmchristos> wh1zz0: do a --help and see how to specify protocal
[02:36] <almoxarife> mrmj: you have broken dependencies most likely due to using ppa's
[02:36] <jasonmchristos> Does anyone have a list of  all processes in the default lucid install ? PLEASE
[02:36] <wh1zz0> milamber: Pls what do you mean by a -1 ?
[02:36] <poz> I installed the program called desktop from the software center and now i do not know where to access it
[02:36] <mrmj> oh ur right, there are wacko ppa's in there
[02:36] <mrmj> just remove them?
[02:36] <tbruff13> does anyone need help i am bored
[02:36] <poz> I need help!
[02:37] <poz> I installed the program called desktop from the software center and now i do not know where to access it
[02:37] <milamber> wh1zz0: ssh -1 -l user -p . . .
[02:37] <Corey> jasonmchristos: It depends on what type of install you've had.
[02:37] <tbruff13> poz: what do you need
[02:37] <jasonmchristos> Corey: desktop
[02:37] <mrmj> and will that remove the driver i need?
[02:37] <mrmj> that driver is in a broken ppa?
[02:37] <poz> I think that application will give me the option of changing my desktop every 15 mins automatically
[02:38] <poz> unless you know of an easyer way
[02:38] <wh1zz0> milamber: Thanks! works like a charm.. What's the reason for the 1?
[02:38] <almoxarife> Corey: its not a good idea to recommend the addition or deletion of ppa's, sort of makes you the guy who said it was ok
[02:38] <Corey> almoxarife: Say what?
[02:38] <poz> i also have another problem with getting rid of the indication icons on the top right of my ubuntu 11.10
[02:38] <wh1zz0> poz what distro are you on?
[02:39] <poz> ubuntu 11.10
[02:39] <milamber> wh1zz0: ssh defaults to 2, so if you were getting version errors it had to be version 1, but you have to tell it that
[02:39] <mrmj> i added the ppa's knowing it wasnt recommended lol
[02:39] <wh1zz0> poz: Are you on gnome or unity?
[02:39] <poz> unity
[02:39] <wh1zz0> milamber: Ahh.. I see, makes a whole lot of sense. Thanks!
[02:39] <poz> actually i am not sure. but i think i am on unity. i am new with this
[02:39] <milamber> wh1zz0: np
[02:39] <cconstantine> how good is ubuntu's support for current macbook pros ?
[02:40] <tbruff13> cconstantine: is your mackbook intel based
[02:40] <milamber> wh1zz0: for the sake of saying it . . . whoever you are connecting to should really upgrade to 2
[02:40] <almoxarife> mrmj: ppa-purge will try to bring your system back to virgin, but it does not always work, so it leaves you as broke as before
[02:40] <poz> tbruff13, any ideas?
[02:40] <cconstantine> tbruff13, I don't have it yet; my employer wants to get me one for development, but I prefer linux
[02:41] <tbruff13> can you tell me your issue please i kind of missed it
[02:41] <poz> wh1zz0, do you know how to sole my problems?
[02:41] <tbruff13> cconstantine: give me the exact name of your macbook please
[02:41] <RokcStar> DIRECTORY TO ISO?
[02:41] <tbruff13> poz: can you state your problem
[02:41] <tbruff13> please im sorry i was in another channel
[02:41] <poz> tbruff13: I installed the program called desktop from the software center and now i do not know where to access it. I think that application will give me the option of changing my desktop every 15 mins automatically. unless you know of an easyer way...
[02:41] <mrmj> can i just remove those ppa's, or that wont work?
[02:41] <rockband> can anyone help me with this..i got 421 processes running, most copies of same instance..consuming almost 100% of my ram
[02:42] <tbruff13> poz: Im checking
[02:42] <poz> thanks!
[02:42] <cconstantine> tbruff13, something like http://store.apple.com/us/configure/MD322LL/A?select=select&product=MD322LL%2FA
[02:42] <xangua> mrmj: you can remove ppa's with ppa-purge
[02:42] <MrPumpkincitis> Is leadership of Ubuntu going to continue with pushing Unity over Gnome?
[02:42] <mrmj> how about manually, the ones i added?
[02:42] <xangua> MrPumpkincitis: unity runs on top of gnome
[02:43] <MrPumpkincitis> I mean rather as the default
[02:43] <milamber> xangua: do you know of a good tutorial/explanation of unity/gnomeshell/kde vs gnome vs x?
[02:45] <sm_> hi everybody, i'm having a problems with b43-legacy driver, so my wifi card does not work
[02:45] <milamber> !broadcom | sm_
[02:45] <almoxarife> milamber: wikipedia must have a comparison by now
[02:46] <MrPumpkincitis> test
[02:46] <crassus> Wow, I'm in love with the latest 11.04
[02:46] <crassus> erm, 11.10
[02:46] <crassus> this is coming from the guy who has warily been on 10.04 for the last year or two
[02:46] <mrmj> hmm still the same error
[02:46] <zkxs> Well, my problem went away on its own.  It's always a little scary when that happens...
[02:46] <milamber> almoxarife: nothing i have found that is new-user friendly. i get too many people (irl) that ask if none of their apps will work with unity. i used to want to facepalm, but the more you look into it the more their confusion is legit
[02:46] <crassus> Unity is actually pretty awesome. I can't wait until 12.04's LTS.
[02:47] <MrPumpkincitis> brb
[02:47] <poz> ubottu, i love you
[02:47] <poz> oh, but you are
[02:47] <mrmj> says when i go to install... to be removed Ubuntu-desktop
[02:47] <mrmj> and others
[02:47] <lefty_> umm.. can I make a bigger partition other than 30GB?
[02:48] <zkxs> mrmj- that means that what you are installing conflicts with the base packages your ubuntu version shipped with
[02:48] <milamber> lefty_: yes, can you provide details of what issue you are having?
[02:48] <mrmj> i see
[02:48] <mrmj> nvidia-glx-legacy:
[02:48] <mrmj>  Depends: xserver-xorg-core but it is not going to be installed
[02:48] <mrmj> graphics i guess...
[02:48] <FloodBot1> mrmj: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:49] <lefty_> milamber: I am not having issue other than space. That is why I am wondering how would i do a partition bigger than 30Gb
[02:49] <xangua> with gparted lefty_
[02:50] <milamber> lefty_: then all i can really say is that parted is the tool you would use to do that and !gparted is the graphical version
[02:50] <milamber> !gparted
[02:50] <mrmj> is there any way around this?
[02:51] <mrmj> is that because i need to kill the X to install that driver?
[02:51] <MrPumpkincitis> do you need gparted to see how your drive is divided up when your computer is a one OS?
[02:51] <lefty_> milamber: so this lets me expand the size?
[02:52] <milamber> lefty_: i don't know any of the specifics of what you are trying to do, but if there is more space on the drive gparted will let you change the partition sizes
[02:52] <mrmj> ive tried to get the older driver for a couple days now and downloaded it, now i see one that will work in the repositories but cannot install it lol
[02:52] <mrmj> :(
[02:53] <almoxarife> mrmj: you tried the purge?
[02:53] <milamber> MrPumpkincitis: just to see how the computer is partitioned? do: sudo fdisk -l
[02:53] <mrmj> i removed the repositories that i added manually but ill try that
[02:53] <MrPumpkincitis> thanks
[02:53] <mrmj> ppa -purge in the terminal?
[02:53] <milamber> mrmj: removing the repos doesn't remove the programs
[02:54] <mrmj> ahhh
[02:54] <MrPumpkincitis> when one installs gparted from the command line, where does the installation come from?
[02:55] <milamber> MrPumpkincitis: can you be more specific? all of the programs you install via the command line are stored in repositories
[02:55] <milamber> !repos
[02:55] <tbruff13> MrPumpkincitis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[02:55] <MrPumpkincitis> thanks
[02:56] <jakr> I type in "sudo apt-get install gnome-session fallback" and get the error "unable to locate package fallback"
[02:56] <lefty_> does anyone know how to use gparted so they can tell me what to do? lol
[02:56] <milamber> mrmj: so whatever driver/program you installed via apt-get you have to: sudo apt-get remove <programname>
[02:56] <VcDeveloper> Question regarding the "Clock Setting", I'm trying to add another time zone "Manila" which us UTC + 08:00, what is the propper format for the "Choose Location" dialogbox?
[02:56] <tmv92> anybody have any ideas why installing fglrx won't let me enjoy dual monitors?  with the open source drivers, i just use xrandr to set one of my monitors to the right of the other.  but, with fglrx, it only allows a maxium 1680 x 1680, which is very low.
[02:56] <xangua> !nounity | jakr
[02:56] <mrmj> i didnt install any driver yet
[02:56] <almoxarife> lefty_: how did you come up with the amount '30gig' ?
[02:57] <mrmj> ppa -purge is the command to clear those?
[02:57] <lefty_> almoxarife: when running the wubi so i can dualboot the max amount was 30 gig
[02:58] <almoxarife> lefty_: wubi :) , forget the gparted recommend
[02:58] <lefty_> almoxarife: what?
[02:58] <xangua> lefty_: if you mean wubi, you can not get your ubuntu install be bigger than 30GB
[02:59] <almoxarife> lefty_: I used wubi too once, and no, that size is fixed, what you want is to add another drive
[02:59] <bodoh> hallo list .. how to install firefox jre plugin?
[02:59] <brightspark> Hi, is there a way to see which Master Boot Record GRUB is on?  I want to be able to put things back the  way they were if I break something...
[02:59] <almoxarife> lefty_: you would create a file that is actually going to be seen as a drive by ubuntu
[03:00] <milamber> lefty_: why i asked for more specifics :)
[03:00] <almoxarife> lefty_: and another thing, there is no reason why the 'host' can't be used as space
[03:01] <xangua> bodoh: if you mean oracle java, is no longer incluided on ubuntu's repository
[03:01] <lefty_> almoxarife: it does matter when i am building cm7 for various devices.. and it doesn't work when in host
[03:02] <milamber> brightspark: what do you mean which mbr?
[03:03] <almoxarife> lefty_: alrighty then
[03:03] <mrmj> The program 'ppa-purge' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[03:03] <mrmj> sudo apt-get install ppa-purge
[03:03] <mrmj> install that i guess lol
[03:03] <crassus> Is it possible to install Windows side-by-side with Ubuntu 11.10 from a DVD to a computer with Ubuntu already occupying the whole harddrive?
[03:04] <lefty_> almoxarife: so you have no answer for my problem? lol
[03:04] <crassus> I'm assuming I'll have to make a partition for the new Windows from Ubuntu's GParted
[03:04] <aeon-ltd> crassus: yes, but you'll need to reinstall grub
[03:04] <milamber> crassus: yes, you have to resize the partition, install windows, and then fix grub
[03:04] <milamber> !grub | crassus
[03:04] <crassus> uh oh ... I don't have good memories of wrestling with GRUB from 8.04
[03:05] <crassus> is it relatively straightforward, or are there difficult things I have to account for/edit ?
[03:05] <milamber> crassus: that particular process is pretty well documented
[03:05] <almoxarife> lefty_: yeah, I told you to add a virtual drive to ubuntu wubi , can be done, did do it, but you say its not possible, I won't argue with you
[03:06] <lefty_> almoxarife: but couldn't there be a possible way so when first using i can set the installation size to like 100gigs ?
[03:06] <brightspark> milamber, if there are multiple disks in a machine, I know that the installer lets me choose which to install GRUB to.  I don't remember which one I installed to, but would like to know because this works and if I break something fiddling with it I should know how to put it back.
[03:07] <almoxarife> lefty_: argue that with the wubi developers, they have a channel I believe
[03:07] <xangua> lefty_: yes, make a real install...not wubi
[03:08] <mrmj> what command in this ppa-purge do i use to clear them all?
[03:08] <mrmj> all the commands?
[03:09] <lefty_> xangua: I don't have a usb stick nor a cd.. just external hard drive.
[03:10] <xangua> mrmj: what ppa¿
[03:11] <mrmj> the ppa-purge
[03:11] <lefty_> Toshiba Desktop External Hard Drive
[03:11] <xangua> mrmj:  What PPA
[03:11] <mrmj> it does it automatically or i must add another command?
[03:11] <lefty_> woops. did not mean to press enter.
[03:11] <milamber> brightspark: i think everything is in grub.cfg
[03:11] <mrmj> i have to do it for each one?
[03:12] <milamber> mrmj: to see your options do: man ppa-purge
[03:14] <mrmj> i manually deleted those ppa's so im not sure how i can see their names lol
[03:14] <almoxarife> brightspark: copy /etc/default/grub to a safe place
[03:16] <brightspark> milamber, I do not see where the MBR is in that file; I do see where ubuntu itself lives, but that is not my goal.
[03:17] <almoxarife> brightspark: MBR? your machine boots into MBR first?
[03:17] <lefty_> o.O the external harddrive can be used as a virtual cd
[03:17] <brightspark> almoxarife, GRUB is installed to an MBR one one of two disks.  I want to know which disk's MBR GRUB lives in, not the Ubuntu install proper.
[03:19] <milamber> brightspark: i think it is supposed to be the first partition so whatever disk your first partition is on should be where the mbr lives. also sfdisk might be able to help - not sure though
[03:22] <VcDdeveloper> Question regarding the "Clock Setting", I'm trying to add another time zone "Manila" which us UTC + 08:00, what is the propper format for the "Choose Location" dialogbox?
[03:23] <brightspark> milamber, thanks.  sfdisk -s returns 0, so it clearly isn't seeing any of my stuff.  The 'first' partition is the lowest-numbered sdaXX?
[03:24] <VcDdeveloper> Question regarding the "Clock Setting", I'm trying to add another time zone "Manila" which us UTC + 08:00, what is the propper format for the "Choose Location" dialogbox?
[03:24] <milamber> brightspark: how many hard disks do you have?
[03:25] <VcDdeveloper> add to repost, I exit from using the web irc...
[03:25] <brightspark> milamber, 2- an old hard-disk and a new, larger solid-state.
[03:29] <milamber> brightspark: can you pastebin a: sudo fdisk -l
[03:30] <RokcStar> does anyone here use dvd's to backup data?
[03:31] <crassus> RokcStar: DVDs aren't really a viable form of backup imo
[03:31] <RokcStar> what would be, besides drives?
[03:31] <crassus> if your backup is physically in the same area or room as your primary is, it's not really a backup
[03:31] <milamber> RokcStar: tape
[03:31] <RokcStar> besides tape?
[03:32] <crassus> RokcStar: it works fine of course. i just prefer off-site/online backups for important stuff
[03:32] <crassus> Dropbox is a nice commercial product for starters
[03:32] <crassus> there's others like VPS hosting
[03:32] <milamber> RokcStar: besides tape and harddrives?
[03:32] <dr_willis> RokcStar:  so whats the actual question...
[03:34] <brightspark> milamber, http://pastebin.com/k4FhcCSd
[03:34] <RokcStar> i just wanted opinions
[03:34] <RokcStar> thanks
[03:36] <milamber> brightspark: that looks like it only has one drive identified, sda - the numbers after are the partitions. i would say your mbr is going to be on that drive.
[03:37] <cptp4n> I'm trying to increase the amount of lines that scrolls when I'm scrolling by using the touchpad. Any suggestions?
[03:37] <MrPumpkincitis> This has nothing to do with linux but perhaps you can explain to me.....Once per day I get disconnected from the World Wide Web but stay connected here. So I have to reset my cable modem and router and then I am connected back to the WWW. What is happening?
[03:38] <milamber> MrPumpkincitis: you are getting hosed by your isp
[03:38] <crassus> cptp4n: for the terminal?
[03:38] <MrPumpkincitis> can you explain milamber
[03:38] <crassus> or for just general browsing documents and the web browser?
[03:38] <cptp4n> crassus: for general browsing and the web browser, yes.
[03:38] <SwedeMike> MrPumpkincitis: you need to provide more information and do more fault finding before there is any chance of understanding what's going on.
[03:39] <cptp4n> crassus: I find that I need to stroke the whole side of the touchpad to do a full "page up/down"
[03:39] <brightspark> milamber, thank you.  If another drive ('sdb'?) were shown, sda would be the likely site still by virtue of being higher alphabetically?  I'm trying to understand how to arrive at the answer generally.
[03:39] <crassus> cptp4n: ok, in that case, probably a browser extension
[03:39] <crassus> there's ones like Smooth Scroll for Chrome and Firefox fwiw
[03:40] <cptp4n> crassus: understood. was just hoping for another option because smoothscroll can cause lag on graphics-intensive pages
[03:40] <milamber> brightspark: i don't do too much with the mbr so someone else correct me if i am wrong - but i would say yes. sda is the first sata disk it finds sdb the second, and so on
[03:40] <crassus> cptp4n: I've noticed that as well
[03:40] <crassus> I tend to not scroll with the keyboard much anymore, PgUp/PgDown is a lot faster
[03:41] <cptp4n> sure
[03:41] <cptp4n> Also, there's a delay when I tap-to-click on the touchpad. As in, when I tap-to-click, it takes a second before the computer recognizes I'm clickin'. If I'm using the hardkey/physical click, there is no delay.
[03:42] <brightspark> milamber, my home system (no ubuntu on it yet) has a similar set up, but one is on pata and the other on sata- is there a way to examine the boot records there (as one would likely be hda and the other sda)?
[03:42] <w30> dffffffffe2q wsedfrtguyhiop[]\
[03:43] <brightspark> milamber, thanks again for your help.
[03:43] <aikInsaan|home> hey..how do I find the ip address & default gateway info....something like 'ipconfig'....'ifconfig' doesn't show that info
[03:43] <milamber> brightspark: there is only one mbr for the whole system and i'm sorry i can't be more help
[03:44] <Charybdis> milamber: Hi.
[03:44] <Charybdis> milamber: What's the question?
[03:45] <aikInsaan|home> hang on...sorry I was just being a bit blind....it's all there in 'ifconfig'
[03:45] <milamber> Charybdis: he's gone now, but he was having an issue on figuring out which drive his mbr was on. i had him do an fdisk and there was only one on the system so i am not sure why he still had questions
[03:46] <milamber> one drive*
[03:46] <Charybdis> Hahaha.
[03:46] <Charybdis> Ok.
[03:46] <Charybdis> Um, there is an mbr on each device (sda, sdb, sdc, etc)
[03:47] <Charybdis> fdisk will only tell you how an individual device is partitioned.
[03:47] <Charybdis> It saves that partition table to the mbr.
[03:47] <dr_willis> there is the drives mbr. then each partition can have a boit record i think
[03:47] <Charybdis> Well, not exactly, but that's all most users need to know.
[03:47] <Charybdis> No, each partition has a file table.
[03:47] <Charybdis> There's only one mbr.
[03:48] <Charybdis> That's for the whole disk.
[03:48] <Charybdis> That tell's the disk where to go for the bootable partition.
[03:48] <kclark> I'm using a RAID0 for 5 disk's on my server, is there any easy way to update the raid after I add a new drive?
[03:48] <artie> Hi, guys. I need some help. When copying files to the different location, there could be some links (symbolic), which will be broken (they will still refer to an old location, not new one). Is there a way to auto fix those links when copying?
[03:48] <SwedeMike> kclark: please define "update"
[03:49] <kclark> SwedeMike -- I want to add another drive making it a total of 6 drives in my RAID
[03:49] <SwedeMike> kclark: yes, you use the mdadm --grow command.
[03:50] <dagerik> I have had a laptop for five years, never cleaned it. The fan is working really hard. What could cause this? How can it "sense" this?
[03:50] <kclark> Swede - nice, will it prompt me for any info or just do an autodetect?
[03:50] <SwedeMike> kclark: hm, halt that. let me look into this further.
[03:51] <SwedeMike> kclark: mdadm manual seems to indicate that raid0 can't be grown.
[03:52] <kclark> Swede -- What
[03:53] <kclark> oops
[03:53] <kclark> *What other raid config do you recommend for striing?
[03:53] <dr_willis> dagerik: dust inside can be bad
[03:53] <kclark> *striping
[03:53] <dagerik> dr_willis: Can hardware be destroyed?
[03:53] <SwedeMike> kclark: https://raid.wiki.kernel.org/articles/g/r/o/Growing.html
[03:54] <kclark> Thanks Swede!
[03:55] <dr_willis> dagerik:  heat it up enough..... it can fail
[03:55] <crassus> So, I have GParted open and I'd like to make a new partition for the Windows install. For some reason, I can't drag the big Ubuntu ext4 partition to resize it, and the menu options are grayed out. Also, Partition names have a lock next to them. How do I unlock them so I can resize at least the '/' ext4 partition ?
[03:55] <kclark> While I'm in here, anyone have any good tutorials on working with the stack in c?
[03:56] <br0adcast> Hello room, I am trying to make an livecd from an ISO, but ubuntu startup disk creator doesnt seem to be showing my cdrom drive.. Can anyone help?
[03:56] <dr_willis> crassus: you normally cant resuze in use filesystems
[03:56] <kclark> br0adcast -- do a lspci and tell us the results
[03:57] <urlin2u> br0adcast, that app is for thumbs.
[03:57] <crassus> dr_willis: ah...how do I about making a new partition then, since Ubuntu's / takes up most of the space
[03:57] <br0adcast> I have a cdrom drive, i have just cleared the disk..
[03:57] <crassus> is it impossible then?
[03:57] <br0adcast> just for thumbs?
[03:57] <dr_willis> crassus: i tend to use gparted live cds
[03:57] <crassus> I could just use a live cd yeah
[03:57] <crassus> lemme try that
[03:57] <dr_willis> bbl
[03:57] <urlin2u> br0adcast, loading usb thumb drives use brasero.
[03:57] <br0adcast> that would explain it urlin2u
[03:57] <xangua> br0adcast: just burn it as an image, startup is just for usb
[03:57] <br0adcast> right, i get it
[03:58] <br0adcast> i must have missed the part where they said "if however you want to use a thumbdrive...."
[03:58] <br0adcast> I only got dumb with it because its crated from a backup with remastersys and I wasnt sure if it implemented the boot stuff
[03:58] <br0adcast> thanks :)
[03:58] <br0adcast> its only a tester anyway, nothing serious
[03:59] <br0adcast> I just want to see if it keeps my wireless driver patches
[03:59] <br0adcast> sure beats the ubuntu UCK method, that seems well complicated
[03:59] <br0adcast> thankyou too xangua
[04:04] <crassus> So, Windows should be notice the new open partition when I'm installing it from the DVD I'm assuming
[04:09] <Nicolus> k
[04:11] <makara> Hi. 11.04 won't start. A list of tasks shows "Stopping automatic crash report generation" failed, and the last one in the list "Skipping profile in /etc/apparmor.d/disable: usr.bin.firefox
[04:11] <makara> cursors winks at me
[04:11] <makara> hdd led going nuts
[04:13] <makara> anyone there?
[04:14] <dagerik> yeah
[04:14] <HazRPG> hey guys, I'm having some issues with my sound... can someone please help me?
[04:15] <makara> just ask
[04:16] <HazRPG> I have no audio at all, details from lspci are: Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller... gnome-volume-control won't run at all (not even from terminal, and doesn't report any errors)... and the icon on my bar just shows "---" as if it was muted
[04:18] <HazRPG> not sure what to do
[04:20] <dagerik> I need to install a package, but I do not know the exact name of the package so that I can go apt-get install <name>
[04:20] <dagerik> How can I find the name og a package that I am looking for?
[04:20] <HazRPG> using alsa 1.0.23 as far as I can tell
[04:21] <HazRPG> dagerik: do you know what type of package is it? i.e. even the application name? Since that question is rather vague
[04:21] <urlin2u> dagerik, loo for it in the software center.
[04:21] <makara> dagerik: use synaptic
[04:21] <dagerik> HazRPG: its ncurses
[04:21] <urlin2u> loook*
[04:21] <crassus> Does partitioning happen faster on SSDs vs HDDs?
[04:22] <crassus> ie, like moving or resizing partitions?
[04:22] <makara> dagerik: what are you trying to accomplish?
[04:23] <HazRPG> dagerik: you could try "apt-cache search <name>" to try and find things, alternatively as others have said software centre, etc
[04:23] <aeon-ltd> crassus: yes i'd assume since read/write; but really i would not buy a SSD for it's partition speed
[04:23] <stu-2> hi  my ubuntu crashed the other day    now i get a message that my profile has not loaded properly   what does it all mean?
[04:24] <crassus> aeon-ltd: of course, there's other awesomer reasons to buy one, like burning your excess cash weighing you down
[04:24] <HazRPG> dagerik: try "apt-cache search ncurses" and read the descriptions of the software it pulls up and you should be able to find it
[04:24] <aeon-ltd> crassus: but really it's microseconds you are saving for partitioning
[04:25] <crassus> i c
[04:25] <aeon-ltd> or at most 1-2 seconds
[04:25] <Zanzacar> Has anyone had any success install/playing league of legends on ubuntu 11.10?
[04:25] <dagerik> HazRPG: Thanks. Using apt-cache to search for programs was really easy.
[04:25] <aeon-ltd> now doing something like intensive overwrites, say zeroing the disk the SSD would win by far
[04:26] <crassus> aeon-ltd: what do you think about that news from HP about some uber fast storage system that beats the pants off of flash/SSD stuff even?
[04:26] <HazRPG> dagerik: remember, if you've added a new ppa or software source to your list, make sure you run "apt-get update", otherwise "apt-cache search" won't find anything
[04:27] <HazRPG> dagerik: also, your welcome ^_^
[04:27] <aeon-ltd> crassus: got a link?
[04:28] <aeon-ltd> crassus: the memristor thing?
[04:28] <HazRPG> anyone able to help with with my no audio issue? I know its being detected (by lspci), I just don't know how to diagnose why I'm getting no sound, nor why all the audio applications won't run...
[04:29] <crassus> aeon-ltd:
[04:29] <crassus> yeah
[04:29] <crassus> odd http://www.electronicsweekly.com/Articles/06/10/2011/51988/ief2011-hp-to-replace-flash-and-ssd-in-2013.htm
[04:29] <crassus> stuf wasn't pasting, sorry
[04:30] <stu-2> hi  my ubuntu crashed the other day    now i get a message that my profile has not loaded properly   what does it all mean?
[04:31] <Bublik2002> quick question... i just discovered gnome extensions and its pretty amazing... is unity going to have some kind of feature like that?
[04:31] <ubuntu-for-me> when i type C-c C-c to compile lisp source file in slime-sbcl,it said notcontect,(yestoday i reinstall my ubuntu,and i use slime before with no problem),how can i solve this problem?
[04:31] <samba35> if i am using kvm or any other networking ,if i am using bridge i have to use same ip address in /etc/network/interface and guest os
[04:32] <crassus> stu-2: try restarting
[04:32] <stu-2> crassus   it does this every time i reboot
[04:33] <artie> Check what process shows the message, then read this process log?
[04:34] <artie> At least you will be sure what is broken.
[04:34] <stu-2> i have also had one that says debconf failing
[04:34] <amit0520> I just upgraded to 11.10 and its running slow just like windows
[04:35] <jaypro> anyone happen to be familiar with acomdata external enclosures with the raid 0 or 1 selection on the outside? i think i accidentally changed the switches, and now i cant read the data
[04:35] <jaypro> i ran ubuntu data rescue, testdisk, and got nothing!
[04:35] <makara> help. 11.04 won't load. Get the purple screen, then a list of jobs - but it gets to a different point in the list each time?
[04:35] <jaypro> soo pissed right now! that data was important!
[04:36] <amit0520> I missed the simplity city and speed of ubuntu.. this new polished version sucks
[04:36] <aeon-ltd> crassus: did some reading just now and it sounds promising,but no read/write data has been released so far from hp.
[04:36] <crassus> word
[04:36] <crassus> well, I can't wait :)
[04:37] <dr_willis> jaypro:  so you dont remember if you were using eaid 0 or raid 1 ?
[04:38] <jaypro> dr_willis... no no... i was using raid 1... but i was fumbling with the enclosure when i accidentally switched it to 0
[04:39] <dr_willis> so now you switched back to 1 and the data is gone?
[04:39] <jaypro> yes
[04:40] <makara> how can I restart xserver from tty1?
[04:40] <jaypro> when it wasn't recognized in windows 7 anymore, i figured one of that hard drives failed. so i took it apart and loaded each of the two harddrives separately in ubuntu...still cant read data
[04:41] <aeon-ltd> makara: kill x then start it again?
[04:41] <dr_willis> makara:  sudo service lightdm restart
[04:41] <jaypro> when i fdisk, and testdisk, it didnt even have partitions
[04:41] <pk__> hello
[04:41] <artie> When copying files to the different location, there could be some links (symbolic), which will be broken (they will still refer to an old location, not a new one). Is there a way to auto fix those links while copying?
[04:41] <jaypro> so i was wondering,... if i changed those switches, does it automaitcally wipe the data?
[04:42] <jaypro> so i used testdisk to analyze partitions...and it did not find anything
[04:43] <pk__> i have two interfaces eth1 and eth2  ...i have bridged them ..this is my interfaces file http://pastebin.com/7TD9eWk2  ...but as soon as my computer starts bridge is created but eth1 and eth2 are down..i need to do ifconfig eth1 up and ifconfig eth2 up..is there any way to automatically make up these interfaces?
[04:43] <makara> dr_willis: unrecognized service
[04:45] <basic`> hi there, anyone running ubuntu on their macbook w/ the touchpad?  I can't seem to resize windows or do anything that requires a click+second finger to drag
[04:45] <basic`> and i must be googling for the wrong thing
[04:45] <basic`> (ubuntu 11.10, xubuntu build)
[04:45] <basic`> i have gpointing-device-settings installed but don't see anything that would fix the issue
[04:46] <makara> actually, it looks like it hasn't started
[04:46] <makara> how would I know?
[04:46] <makara> i type 'startx' and it says no screens found??
[04:47] <amit0520> I just upgraded to 11.10 from 10.04. Is there is a way to downgrade it back to 10.04 ? Please advise
[04:47] <cgkades> amit0520: not that i've ever heard of
[04:48] <somsip> amit0520: no - reinstall is required
[04:48] <urlin2u> basic`, starting with the cursor in the window header you can not move the window?
[04:49] <amit0520> ok thanks somsip
[04:49] <basic`> right
[04:49] <basic`> i have to use a finger to click, and another to drag
[04:49] <bjrohan_> I am a new user of Ubuntu from Windoze. What is the best way to subscribe to podcasts in Ubuntu?
[04:51] <urlin2u> basic`, generally window move in ccsm should be clicked to work.
[04:51] <researcher123> is it possible to create an image of my PC and host it on a cloud?
[04:52] <doctor_h> Yeah.
[04:52] <urlin2u> basic`, actually called move window
[04:52] <basic`> ccsm?
[04:52] <doctor_h> Just run teamviewer on ur pc. View from anywhere.
[04:53] <witakr> hello olkfs
[04:53] <basic`> urlin2u, trying the mactel synaptics driver
[04:53] <basic`> brb
[04:53] <urlin2u> basic`, compiz configsettings manager, personally wouldn't know about a driver.
[04:54] <Naynay> why is ubuntu 11.10 not remembering security passwords to known wireless access points?
[04:54] <witakr> can someone please help me? I am trying to compile Jahshaka video editor but I am getting this error when I run ./configure : "Project LOAD(): Feature Settings.pro cannot be found." can someone help me figure this out so I can get Jahshaka running? Please?
[04:55] <urlin2u> Naynay, set it to connect automatically if that is the pt=roblem.
[04:55] <witakr> I'm using Ubuntu 10
[04:55] <urlin2u> problem*
[04:56] <cgkades> witakr: have you tried pasting the error into google?
[04:56] <HazRPG> hmm
[04:57] <HazRPG> okay... so I've narrowed the problem down to pulse I think... since alsa can still play sound from what I can see
[04:57] <Naynay> where's the toggle for that?
[04:57] <cgkades> witakr: i'm not trying to be a gerk, thats just what i do when iget a strange error
[04:58] <witakr> cgkades, yeah i did and I found s couple things that fixed other errors I had but I can't find a resolution for this error message so i came here
[04:58] <witakr> I've been working at this for an hour now
[04:58] <pp7> anyone have that annoying bug where windows dont move smoothly any more after a while?
[04:58] <witakr> Searching and reading
[04:58] <urlin2u> Naynay, right click the wireless-edit connections
[04:59] <Naynay> The auto connect check box was already on
[04:59] <witakr> pp7, i had that one....
[04:59] <pp7> witakr: had?
[04:59] <Naynay> it automatically tried to connect but then prompted the password
[04:59] <pp7> witakr: how did u resolve that???
[04:59] <Naynay> I keep having to enter it each time I connect
[04:59] <Naynay> I've tried to save it in the security tab
[04:59] <urlin2u> Naynay, how about all users?
[04:59] <Guest74901> anyone know if .pem file is same as the key you get when you do ssh-keygen -t rsa ?
[04:59] <Naynay> hrm, will try that
[05:00] <witakr> pp7, I'm sorry, i was just commenting... I thought you were talking about MS Windows... I thought you were making a joke about windows being slow
[05:00] <urlin2u> Naynay, tried to save it
[05:00] <Guest74901> anyone know if .pem file is one that gets created when you do ssh-keygen -t rsa ?
[05:00] <pp7> witakr: damn i thought someone could help me resolve it :(
[05:00] <Naynay> I'll log off and back again to see if this works now
[05:01] <Naynay> ok that seemed to go better
[05:01] <Naynay> cheers
[05:01] <Guest74901> anybody?
[05:01] <witakr> pp7, I know, I instantly felt bad when i realized you weren't just ragging on MS Windows.. I'm sorry..
[05:01] <makara> linux really need to sort out these graphic driver issues. Apparently I need to rebuild NVIDIA for the new kernel?? How can I setup Ubuntu for a non-techy if this is going to happen on an upgrade?
[05:02] <pp7> witakr: haha no problem
[05:03] <argot|pryer> pp7: stop using windows
[05:03] <cgkades> makara: it's a pain.. i have to do that at work to 17+ systems
[05:03] <argot|pryer> perfect fix
[05:03] <pp7> argot|pryer: i'm not using windows
[05:03] <witakr> Look what i started...
[05:04] <pp7> i'm talking about windows on the ubuntu desktop
[05:04] <pp7> not windows OS
[05:04] <argot|pryer> so after a while of a window being open it stops moving smoothly?
[05:05] <pp7> argot|pryer: yea like after a few days
[05:05] <pp7> argot|pryer: windows in general on the desktop are jittery when moving them around
[05:05] <tbruff13> does anyone need any help
[05:06] <pp7> never had this problem before 11.10
[05:06] <pp7> tbruff13: yes i do
[05:06] <tbruff13> whats up man
[05:06] <makara> where's the decent error messages on no boot? I have no idea what to do now. It could be absolutely anything
[05:06] <tbruff13> makara: what error message
[05:06] <witakr> can someone please help me? I am trying to compile Jahshaka video editor but I am getting this error when I run ./configure : "Project LOAD(): Feature Settings.pro cannot be found." can someone help me figure this out so I can get Jahshaka running? Please?
[05:06] <pp7> tbruff13: moving windows in ubuntu 11.10 become jerky after a while
[05:06] <makara> exactly - it just doesn't boot
[05:07] <makara> shows a list of jobs and then blinks
[05:07] <makara> can I show you dmesg?
[05:07] <tbruff13> makara: maybe i not that good though
[05:07] <tbruff13> i can check through google and with some friends
[05:08] <makara> no worries
[05:08] <makara> i'll askubuntu.com
[05:09] <tbruff13> makara: im so sorry
[05:09] <tbruff13> pp7: you here
[05:09] <pp7> yep
[05:09] <tbruff13> can you see the dialog i opened with you
[05:09] <pp7> oh
[05:10] <cgkades> makara: your system crashes because of the vid driver?
[05:11] <tbruff13> makara: what vid card do you have
[05:11] <johnnyzero> Hey can anyone help me to to figure out this.
[05:12] <tbruff13> johnnyzero: sure what is the issue
[05:12] <basic`> got it figured out, have to use only 1 finger to click and drag
[05:12] <basic`> two fingers doesn't work
[05:12] <johnnyzero> Well
[05:12] <johnnyzero> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/886449
[05:13] <johnnyzero> I can't understand what the guy means
[05:13] <johnnyzero> or how to fix that issue
[05:13] <johnnyzero> "As fahr as I understand your output above alsa has no Profile to assign
[05:13] <johnnyzero> the channels of the cam, so it tests diferent Profiles but fails."
[05:13] <johnnyzero> How could I fix something like that
[05:14] <tbruff13> johnnyzero: i can't really help you with a confirmed bug
[05:14] <johnnyzero> ooh
[05:14] <tbruff13> I don'
[05:14] <tbruff13> i dont have a solution for it dude im sorry
[05:14] <tbruff13> but they are working on it
[05:14] <tbruff13> it will get solved soon
[05:15] <johnnyzero> Yeah I was just confused as to why that guy told me to try that stuff.
[05:15] <johnnyzero> and creating an .asoundrc file
[05:16] <vagothcpp> on oneric there is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf for my system, has it moved?
[05:17] <HazRPG> if anyone is still following, this is the info the alsa-info.sh script returned for me: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=2ae88001355a23c564f608414dab0102714ff1bc
[05:19] <somsip> vagothcpp: no xorg.conf as standard. Files that make up the various sections are in...somewhere I forget now, but they should not be overriden so if you want to add anything, just create your won xorg.conf to override the defaults
[05:20] <somsip> *own
[05:20] <HazRPG> seems after having done "killall pulseaudio", I now have sound... however using "alsamixer" to control audio is a pain (too use to my keyboard shortcuts)... so alsa is working, after killing pulseaudio and that using "pulseaudio --start" makes everything work again... however I can't control my applications volumes, etc... can someone help me with that? I've got this far
[05:20] <cgkades> vagothcpp: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config
[05:21] <vagothcpp> somsip, well im installing the nvidia driver for my laptop, so i wanted to backup my current configuration incase it all goes wrong
[05:21] <tbruff13> HazRPG: have you tried reinstalling pulseaudio
[05:21] <HazRPG> tbruff13: I haven't, no
[05:21] <somsip> vagothcpp: no idea then. Not something I've had to do
[05:21] <HazRPG> tbruff13: how would I completely reinstall it properly?
[05:22] <tbruff13> HazRPG: i will get you a guide and work with you
[05:22] <MahaVishnu> HazRPG$ you can easily make keyboard shortcuts to control alsa sound level, want an example file ?
[05:22] <vagothcpp> i would use the restricted drivers suggestion but it doesnt give me one...
[05:22] <cgkades> vagothcpp: good luck. you'll have to reinstall every kernel upgrade.. just an FYI
[05:22] <HazRPG> tbruff13: much appreciated :)
[05:22] <vagothcpp> cgkades, why is that
[05:22] <HazRPG> MahaVishnu: sure, I'm always up for learning new tricks :)
[05:22] <vagothcpp> and shouldn't that simply be "just FYI"
[05:23] <cgkades> vagothcpp: if i remember correctly it uses the kernel headers, and those change with every kernel
[05:23] <vagothcpp> cgkades, so why not simply have my kernel header installed >.>
[05:24] <MahaVishnu> HazRPG$ pretty much you just install the package xbindkeys. then open it with xbindkeys -k press the key you want to map to it will give you the keycodes and edit this file to your liking. then save it to ~/.xbindkeysrc. start 'xbindkeys' and you are good to go. http://paste.ubuntu.com/774983/
[05:25] <cgkades> vagothcpp: everytime you upgrade your linux kernel, you will have to reinstall the video driver. at least that has been my experience with nvidia
[05:25] <HazRPG> MahaVishnu: I have heard about xbindkeys before... might give that a go, much thanks :)
[05:25] <MahaVishnu> HazRPG$ this works while using pulse audio also. I do this because the on screen display thing always has problems for me and this is much more reliable.
[05:26] <RokcStar> no wonder some programs break after kernerl upgrades!...ahh now i know!!
[05:26] <vagothcpp> cgkades, the 'additional drivers' doesnt provide me an alternative
[05:26] <vagothcpp> cgkades, oh, i misunderstood your first statement
[05:27] <cgkades> vagothcpp: yeah. just something to keep in mind. it's a pain, but not horrible
[05:27] <MahaVishnu> HazRPG$ what is your general issue? just got here
[05:27] <almoxarife> !info nvidia-current
[05:27] <bobet> hi everyone any idea on how to enable admin console on openfire pls help its has been disabled by our last admin
[05:27] <HazRPG> MahaVishnu: No sound on boot-up.
[05:28] <vagothcpp> see, i thought you were saying that I would have to reinstall every kernel version upgrade if i were to install this driver
[05:28] <bobet> Pls. PM me
[05:28] <MahaVishnu> HazRPG$ ubuntu 11.10? what kind of sound card? what fixes the sound if anything ?
[05:28] <dr_willis> !info openfire
[05:28] <cgkades> vagothcpp: ah yeah.. i didn't type that very clearly
[05:29] <bobet> what room for openfire topic?
[05:30] <bobet> can you pls give me one...
[05:30] <vagothcpp> or i could just install nvidia_current; thanks almoxarife
[05:30] <HazRPG> MahaVishnu: ubuntu 10.10, "Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller" (straight from lspci), doing "killall pulseaudio", "alsa force-reload", "pulseaudio --start" seems to fix sound... but no controls using either "gnome-volume-control" or "pavucontrol"
[05:30] <KindOne> bobet - /join #openfire
[05:30] <cgkades> vagothcpp: packages are always the best
[05:31] <vagothcpp> cgkades, indeed, reason i stopped using my LFS
[05:31] <almoxarife> vagothcpp: do install it, script kiddie method is for people with a lot of time on their hands
[05:32] <vagothcpp> almoxarife, i remember when i had lots of spare time, i get one day a month where i dont have anything to do (in general)
[05:32] <Zanzacar> Has anyone had success with having league of legends run on linux? There seems to be a lot of speculations on if it can or cant run on linux through wine.
[05:32] <MahaVishnu> HazRPG$ hrm im hard pressed to come up with an answer for that other than some kind of bug in the underlying alsa/pulse audio code. never heard of it working with no sliders. but all devices show up in alsamixer ?
[05:33] <HazRPG> MahaVishnu: yup
[05:34] <HazRPG> MahaVishnu: I find it odd too, I've not come across anything like it before
[05:35] <MahaVishnu> HazRPG$ yea its pretty buggy on linux.
[05:35] <nimbiotics> Hello evry1, I was once sent a link in this channel with instruction s on how to install 11.10 w/o unity. Can some1 plz point me to this link?
[05:35] <MahaVishnu> sound that is now a days with alsa + pulse audio ( still not 100% sure what pulse even does )
[05:36] <somsip> nimbiotics: you can use the minimal install CD, or one of the other flavours of Ubuntu, such as Xubuntu
[05:36] <MahaVishnu> HazRPG$ is it an option to upgrade to 11.10
[05:36] <HazRPG> nimbiotics: if someone's already linked you to it, if you remember what day it was, might be worth looking at the online log to see if you can find it again
[05:37] <bobet> KindOne its seems no one is available on #openfire
[05:37] <nimbiotics> HazRPG: no, cant remember, but thx
[05:37] <HazRPG> MahaVishnu: not really, not until I have a proper play with gnome3 to see if I actually like it
[05:38] <nimbiotics> somsip: I'm not sure i wan to change 2 another flavor, but I have considewred it; Unity suckcs big time
[05:38] <MahaVishnu> HazRPG$ I heard ya I am on 11.10 but using fluxbox my self. reason I ask is because pulseaudio/alsa can be complicated to reinstall properly in my experience and upgrading might just 'fix' the issue silently ya know what I mean ?
[05:38] <somsip> nimbiotics: so you've already installed?
[05:39] <HazRPG> MahaVishnu: yeah I get what you mean
[05:39] <nimbiotics> somsip: oh yes, but I want to make a fresh  install now
[05:39] <somsip> nimbiotics: so what are you looking to replace it with?
[05:40] <HazRPG> although people will disagree with me, I think however dated gnome2 might be... it still "just works" and does the job its meant to well... gnome3 is just too new for me to see it as viable
[05:40] <nimbiotics> somsip: gnome3? I dnt know; whatever is closer to last version and that would allow me to use compiz, which I love. Any suggestions?
[05:41] <somsip> !nounity | nimbiotics
[05:41] <cgkades> HazRPG: i agree. i hate gnome3 (and unity)
[05:41] <somsip> nimbiotics: but with this, you wouldn't uninstall unity. Just not use it
[05:42] <nimbiotics> somsip: THX, what is the point of having it if I dnt plan on using Unity? Can I just get rid of Unity completely? TIA
[05:43] <somsip> nimbiotics: I believe it's pretty integral to a base install, which is where I started with my first point - reinstall a version that does not use a standard install
[05:43] <nimbiotics> somsip: u lost me; what do u mean?
[05:44] <somsip> nimbiotics: if you use a minimal install, then install gnome-shell or gnoma-panel, you might avoid the unity packages. Dunno. I don't use gnome
[05:44] <nimbiotics> somsip: what do u use? xubuntu u said?
[05:44] <MahaVishnu> nimbiotics$ here is a guide http://linux-software-news-tutorials.blogspot.com/2011/10/ubuntu-1110-oneiric-remove-unity-and.html
[05:44] <somsip> nimbiotics: minimal install and Awesome WM
[05:45] <HazRPG> cgkades: same, even if unity did fix all the inconsistencies that I feel it has (along with fighting over the screen since I'm a dual-head user), I still don't think I could live with a "dock" over my application bar
[05:45] <nimbiotics> MahaVishnu; THX, will check
[05:45] <nimbiotics> somsip: WM?
[05:46] <somsip> nimbiotics: Windown Manager
[05:46] <somsip> erk
[05:46] <nimbiotics> somsip: got it
[05:46] <somsip> HazRPG:nice link. Didn;t realise unity could be nuked
[05:46] <nimbiotics> somsip: never heard of it
[05:47] <HazRPG> somsip: guessing you meant MahaVishnu
[05:47] <somsip> HazRPG: yup :) Hope you got that MahaVishnu :)
[05:47] <MahaVishnu> somsip$ this is linux :-)
[05:48] <somsip> MahaVishnu: heh :) Just not seen that info before. I only ever see ! nounity used for that question on here.
[05:51] <nimbiotics> somsip, MahaVishnu, HaxRPG, THX a lot for your insight(s)!
[05:51] <somsip> nimbiotics: np. Happy to help get someone off unity
[05:51] <nimbiotics> somsip: lmao!
[05:52] <HazRPG> nimbiotics: no worries
[05:53] <HazRPG> nimbiotics: btw, for future reference, you can view this channel's logs from here if you need to: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[05:56] <bobet> any room for openfire?
[05:58] <whalesalad> hey guys is there a server specific room?
[05:59] <sagaci> #ubuntu-server
[06:00] <cptp4n> o wut, didn't kno i wuz still in dizz channo
[06:05]  * dr_willis wonders what openfire is..
[06:06] <bullgard4> I have an .ogg file containing several songs. What Ubuntu program will parse this file into several .ogg files containing one song each?
[06:07] <dr_willis> bullgard4: automatically?
[06:08] <dr_willis> battery dead. bbl
[06:08] <bullgard4> dr_willis: It suffices if the program helps me doing it by hand.
[06:08] <dr_willis> !info audacity
[06:09] <dr_willis> that is a nice gui app
[06:09] <dr_willis> byeee
[06:23] <Folklore> su keeps failing for root
[06:23] <Folklore> I was sure I set it was same pass as other user
[06:23] <Folklore> also sudo works fine
[06:23] <Folklore> so how I fix this
[06:23] <anomalies> passwd root
[06:24] <anomalies> after that u can use 'su' command
[06:24] <pnorman> !root
[06:24] <anomalies> or sudo su without having the need to put password at root account
[06:24] <Folklore> thx!
[06:25] <Folklore> you rock anomalies
[06:25] <pippo> ciao
[06:25] <anomalies> it's not a good practice to put password for root account :)
[06:25] <pippo> ciao
[06:25] <iceowl> if you really really really really really really really really need to drop to a root shell, you can do $ sudo su -
[06:25] <pnorman> iceowl: Isn't sudo -i also an option?
[06:26] <iceowl> possibly, I don't remember
[06:26] <Folklore> I don't take root that serious guys
[06:26] <Folklore> no worries
[06:26] <Folklore> appreciate the help
[06:26] <iceowl> root is srs bizns.
[06:27] <anomalies> any antivirus for home user linux that actually work (except clamav) on ubuntu?
[06:27] <anomalies> need them for my smb
[06:29] <iceowl> why would you need an antivirus program for linux?
[06:29] <anomalies> because most machine connected to my home network is running windows
[06:29] <anomalies> :)
[06:29] <iceowl> icey
[06:30] <pnorman> Something to scan files for viruses, not for catching viruses on the server itself?
[06:30] <anomalies> yerp
[06:31] <unreal-dude> thats probably more effective than a local antivirus as far as file access is concerned since the machine with the antivirus is not easily compromised
[06:32] <pnorman> unreal-dude: well, it won't catch viruses that are just running locally on the machines
[06:32] <unreal-dude> hence the "as far as file access in concerned" part
[06:33] <anomalies> last time, someone put infected files on my smb and get a virus outbreak
[06:34] <anomalies> take half day to clean it.. it's a mess
[06:34] <Jerrry> Virus on Linux?
[06:35] <anomalies> yerp.. the ubuntu smb as carrier
[06:35] <anomalies> infecting my home network
[06:35] <makara> how can I restore to original graphic drivers? no nvidia anything
[06:36] <Jerrry> I'm really noob at Linux. I thought it was really hard to get a virus on Linux.
[06:36] <tbruff13> HazRPG: hey can you see me
[06:36] <HazRPG> tbruff13: yup
[06:37] <anomalies> Jerrry; my ubuntu isn't infected, but act as carrier since it servicing smb for my home network
[06:37] <anomalies> so anyone connected to my ubuntu smb, got infected
[06:37] <Jerrry> Oh, I see.
[06:37] <Jerrry> It's like how ticks don't get affected by lyme disease but they still transmit it.
[06:37] <anomalies> yerp
[06:39] <andyn> well, modern medical chemistry is mostly geometry
[06:40] <andyn> if the proteins fit spaitially, they'll interact. in this case the samba share was the common base to attach to.
[06:40] <andyn> spatially even
[06:42] <anomalies> :)
[06:43] <anomalies> brb
[06:46] <moho> what
[06:51] <dagerik> If I change screen settings here: http://folk.ntnu.no/dageriv/s.png it does not persist when I close the window.
[06:51] <dagerik> If I reopen the screen settings, I discover that the changes did not persist.
[06:51] <dagerik> Using 11.10 with Gnome 3
[06:54] <dagerik> Basically, changes I do in the system settings do not persist.
[06:58] <alicia81> Hi, I just installed ubuntu and sometimes after booting the machine, ubuntu doesn't fully load.
[06:58] <iceowl> how much RAM do you have?
[06:58] <alicia81> 8GB
[06:58] <iceowl> hmm...
[06:59] <alicia81> By "doesn't fully load" I mean the display doesn't work
[06:59] <dagerik> I cannot change system settings anymore,
[06:59] <iceowl> what do you mean by "doesn't work"?
[06:59] <alicia81> or it drops to showing the text load prompts, the lines with the [ok]
[07:00] <alicia81> and sometimes it just shows a purple screen
[07:00] <alicia81> but when you power down
[07:00] <alicia81> it starts the power down logo and turns off
[07:01] <alicia81> Any ideas what it could be?
[07:01] <Kartagis> good moning
[07:01] <alicia81> It this a new machine
[07:01] <Kartagis> how do I get my bot to identify to nickserv?
[07:01] <audi> good evining
[07:02] <audi> alicia81 need more info
[07:02] <alicia81> Ok, what else can I tell you?
[07:02] <alicia81> This only happens sometimes
[07:02] <audi> version 11.04?
[07:02] <iceowl>  /msg nickserv help
[07:02] <alicia81> 11.10
[07:03] <bullgard4> !enter | alicia81
[07:03] <alicia81> brb
[07:03] <audi> what kind of video card, and monitor
[07:03] <alicia81> on board display
[07:03] <audi> ok
[07:03] <alicia81> samsung lcd monitor
[07:04] <alicia81> be back in 20 mins
[07:04] <Kartagis> oops, I have just realized I was in the wrong channel
[07:04] <audi> need help locating audio card for mplayer
[07:05] <sinisterstuf> Kartagis, who hosts your bot btw?
[07:05] <audi> used aplay -l and it is device 1,2
[07:05] <Kartagis> sinisterstuf: it's on my VPS
[07:06] <audi> *card 1 device 2
[07:06] <bullgard4> Audacity 1.3.13-beta (Unicode) > Help > Fast Help (in Internet browser): "Apparently you did not install the Help." What package do I have to download in order to install the Fast Help?
[07:06] <sinisterstuf> Kartagis, where'd you get the VPS? or do you have your own server?
[07:06] <audi> card 1: CMI8768 [C-Media CMI8768], device 2: CMI8738-MC8 [C-Media PCI IEC958]
[07:06] <evilwombat> Hello. Is there a reason why my KDE (Qt) applications look like GTK applications, regardless of the choice of the Qt theme (but only for one user), and is there a way to remedy this?
[07:07] <Kartagis> sinisterstuff some company in my country
[07:07] <sinisterstuf> oh ok...
[07:07] <audi> mplayer -ao ????????? -afm hwac3 XXX.iso
[07:09] <wxl> hey is encrypted swap like common fare now? i wanted to increase my swap and blkid was only showing /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 which is alll that is in /etc/fstab
[07:10] <Zeroe> Hey, can anyone direct me to which node I should go to to get help configuring a linux server securely?
[07:13] <Kartagis> how do I get the latest apache with ubuntu? through a ppa?
[07:13] <Zeroe> what is ppa?
[07:14] <prince_jammys> !ppa | Zeroe
[07:14] <ikonia> Kartagis: why do you need it ?
[07:14] <Kartagis> ikonia: to be on the latest stable?
[07:14] <ikonia> Kartagis: why ?
[07:15] <Zeroe> Ahh, I see, well then why would you use a ppa. Just update your current installation, if not install it the usual way
[07:15] <Zeroe> I believe it is sudo apt-get install apache2
[07:15] <ikonia> Zeroe: you can't use it as an install source
[07:15] <ikonia> Zeroe: you can only use it as an additional software source
[07:15] <Kartagis> ikonia: is there a problem with it?
[07:15] <ikonia> Kartagis: no, but is there a problem with what ubuntu ships/supports/manages ?
[07:15] <wxl> holy crow apt-cache search apache is insane
[07:15] <Zeroe> you mean ppa?
[07:15] <ikonia> Zeroe: correct
[07:16] <Kartagis> ikonia: no
[07:16] <ikonia> Kartagis: ok, so why update and break that
[07:16] <Kartagis> point taken
[07:16] <ikonia> Kartagis: what is in the version you want to use that is not in the version ships with apache
[07:16] <ikonia> with ubuntu
[07:17] <Kartagis> ikonia: no idea really, just the tendency to be on the latest
[07:17] <pablo09> hola
[07:17] <Kartagis> hola
[07:17] <ikonia> Kartagis: that is a very very bad tendency
[07:17] <ikonia> Kartagis: I would try to break that habbit if I where you
[07:18] <Kartagis> ikonia: generally, or only for ubuntu?
[07:18] <ikonia> Kartagis: generally
[07:18] <anomalies> bleeding-edge almost all the time need more time to spend than stable one
[07:19] <audi> need help with mplayer dts
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> audi: could ask in #mplayer  too
[07:20] <wxl> so is the uuid for /dev/mapper/cryptswap the same uuid of the partition it's pointing at?
[07:21] <audi> have posted at http://pastebin.com/6X9gGpvN .as per mplayer
[07:21] <fidel> ahoi
[07:22] <audi> take a look
[07:23] <amirite> how do i make processes startup at boot?
[07:24] <anomalies> vim /etc/rc.local
[07:24] <anomalies> XD
[07:24] <hearnoseeno> i'm interested in looking at my rc.d files.........how can i display all the files that contain rc*.d
[07:24] <alicia81> audi, are you still there?
[07:24] <blackshirt> amirite: you can configure through start up application utilites
[07:24] <audi> yes
[07:24] <hearnoseeno> can i pipe to ls -r?
[07:24] <amirite> i added to runlevels with update-rc.d but when server crashes and comes back up the services dont seem to have started
[07:25] <alicia81> Right so my problem is intermittent.
[07:25] <anomalies> so call it manually at rc.local
[07:25] <amirite> can someone tell me what the equivalent of rc-update and rc-status (gentoo) for ubuntu are
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> !boot
[07:25] <anomalies> put your own shell script to do the automation for you
[07:25] <alicia81> I'm on the machine in Ubuntu now
[07:25] <dagerik> I cannot change system settings anymore,
[07:25] <alicia81> but an hour ago I kept trying to boot the machine
[07:26] <leftist> morning what is the command that you can use to identify devices from a shell? i forget it and i need to know the chipset for this sound card to get drivers for it
[07:26] <xuser1> good morning !
[07:26] <alicia81> and with each attempt it would fail to load the display
[07:26] <dagerik> In gnome-control-center I am unable to change the screensaver settings.
[07:26] <anomalies> leftist; never play music when i'm in console
[07:26] <amirite> someone give me an example etc rc.local file so i can follow the format/syntax
[07:26] <leftist> no it is a command i forget the syntax
[07:26] <alicia81> After unpluging the power and leaving it out for 5 mins
[07:27] <alicia81> I booted up and managed to get into Ubuntu
[07:27] <xuser1> i use gnome 3 and the <create new launcher > in desktop menu is missing
[07:27] <xuser1> :-D
[07:27] <alicia81> Any ideas what could be the problem?
[07:27] <cconstantine> I"m using gnome (with awesome as the wm) and my batter monitor recently disapeared from the systray.  Anyone know how to get it back or figure out what went wrong?
[07:27] <anomalies> amirite; what is the command u use when need to start you service(s)?
[07:27] <xuser1> any ideas?
[07:27] <amirite> /etc/init.d/foo
[07:28] <anomalies> put it then on rc.local
[07:28] <blackshirt> amirite: some script has been converted to upstart script
[07:29] <llutz_> !upstart | amirite search the web for poor upstart-documentation how to create start-/stop-scripts
[07:29] <amirite> i just added /etc/init.d/foo start before exit 0
[07:29] <amirite> hopefully that does it
[07:29] <anomalies> amirite; i usually create a shell script to do the dirty job, then put it at the rc.local, so next time when the machine reboot.. i don't have to do anything again anymore
[07:30] <creazyrohila> i have lenovo y510 laptop, i installed 11.10 in it, my speakers (4.1) not working now. any suggestions
[07:30] <creazyrohila> ?
[07:30] <leftist>  i worked for lenovo / ibm and i never had an issue. did you try suse?
[07:30] <leftist> suse is the defacto for that crowd
[07:31] <leftist> since ibm supports that platform. but i dont use suse
[07:31] <leftist> anyway
[07:31] <xuser1>  i use gnome 3 and the <create new launcher > in desktop menu is missing
[07:31] <xuser1> any ideas?
[07:31] <creazyrohila> last time i have 10.04 then i put some code in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf
[07:31] <xuser1> how can i fix that?
[07:32] <creazyrohila> but this time its not working
[07:32] <anomalies> call the apps then stick it to the bar
[07:32] <creazyrohila> ?
[07:33] <leftist> morning what is the command that you can use to identify devices from a shell? i forget it and i need to know the chipset for this sound card to get drivers for it
[07:33] <llutz_> leftist: lspci, cat /proc/asound/cards
[07:33] <leftist> thanks llutz_
[07:34] <creazyrohila> leftist, HDA Intel at 0xfeaf8000 irq 48
[07:36] <grape_> does running windows on a virtual drive let you do everything you would normally be able to do on windows? I want to know if it is better than wine
[07:37] <keepguessing> Hi I do not have a network connection on my ubuntu machine. I have an ubuntu cd and I am trying to install packges from it. however using dpkg -i fails for some because of the dependencies. I usually use apt-get to install on ubuntu. Is there a way in which I could configure apt-get to use also my cdrom as a repository?
[07:37] <somsip> grape_: I've found that to be the case. Sometimes osme issues with usb peripherals though
[07:37] <keepguessing> I am using ubuntu 11.04
[07:38] <Flannel> keepguessing: the Desktop CD or the alternate CD?
[07:38] <keepguessing> Flannel: the cd I used to install the Ubuntu
[07:38] <Flannel> keepguessing: That could be either.  Did you use a GUI or a text based install?
[07:38] <grape_> somsip: cool, so whereas windows drivers will not work with wine, they will work with the virtual machine? i am trying to hook up a webcam that is old and has no linux drivers/support
[07:39] <keepguessing> Flannel: text-based
[07:39] <Zeroe> Does anyone know where I can get the documentation for securing ubuntu for server purposes in eCommerce?
[07:39] <somsip> grape_: AIUI, this is where there can be problems with USB and VMs, though I've had no experience with that myself. When my webcam was so old and crap that Ubuntu didbn't support it, I bought a new one.
[07:40] <Flannel> keepguessing: That's the alternate CD.  USUALLY the CD is already in your sources (although it may be disabled).  You can check, OR if you just want to add it, stick the CD in, and use `sudo apt-cdrom add`
[07:40] <keepguessing> Flannel: apt-cdrom add gives me errors such as version GLIBCXX_3.4.14 not found
[07:40] <Flannel> keepguessing: once you've done that, you can sudo apt-get update, and then install whatever from the CD like normal (with your favorite package manager)
[07:40] <grape_> somsip: thanks
[07:41] <somsip> grape_: np
[07:42] <Flannel> keepguessing: That's odd.  Ok, well, lets look to see if you already have the CD in your sources.  Since you seem savvy enough, go ahead and peruse /etc/apt/sources.list and the various files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ for a deb cdrom:[blahblah line.
[07:42] <keepguessing> Flannel: probably it would be write to mention that I do not have gcc in my machine. I was trying to install that and found dependency failures
[07:42] <Flannel> keepguessing: If I was wrong in assuming you're comfortable with that, let me know, I'll step you through it.
[07:43] <Flannel> keepguessing: You do have gcc, you don't have any libraries for it.  At least, by default.
[07:43] <ikonia> Flannel: I don't think gcc is installed by default
[07:43] <ikonia> Flannel: the libc warning is a concern, quite a big one, smells of mixed versions or a very non-standard install
[07:44] <Zanzacar> I noticed something odd. When I do ls -lh in the terminal I get a file at 695M but in the properties in nautilus I get 729M why is that?
[07:44] <keepguessing> Flannel: Actually I did not have gcc and the deb pakg installation failed with the error of missing dependencies
[07:44] <mr_lou> In my Ubuntu installation at home, I can press WindowsKey + N or M to invert all colors. What is it I have installed in order to be able to do that? I'd like to be able to do the same at work.
[07:44] <keepguessing> Flannel: hence I thought using apt-get it woudl be able to find dependencies install them first and then install gcc.
[07:45] <Flannel> ikonia: gcc is, but you can't compile anything, because it's missing all sorts of dependencies to actually be useful: http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.manifest
[07:45] <Flannel> keepguessing: Alright, lets... step back.  This is a fresh install?
[07:46] <ikonia> Flannel: that is crazy that gcc is now installed by default.
[07:46] <Flannel> ikonia: Well, I guess they're not dependencies, I guess it'd just be libraries and headers and whatnot.  To my knowledge, you can't compile any type of programs, but 'gcc' exists.
[07:46] <Flannel> ikonia: It's always been that way, I think it's a lsb requirement.
[07:46] <ikonia> Flannel: lsb does not include gcc
[07:46] <ikonia> Flannel: big security risk
[07:47] <Flannel> ikonia: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.manifest
[07:47] <pnorman> !info build-essential
[07:47] <keepguessing> Flannel: Yes its a fresh install
[07:47] <Flannel> keepguessing: Alright, What CD did you use to install?
[07:47] <ikonia> Flannel: that makes no sense (although I see that it's true) the ammount of times I had to install gcc (not libraries) to do something
[07:47] <ilea> hi all
[07:47] <keepguessing> Flannel: I found the de cdrom: ... it was commented and uncommented it
[07:48] <Flannel> keepguessing: Alright.  That should get you going, although I agree with ikonia, something seems off with your install.
[07:49] <ilea> when i try to enable desktop cube everithing on the desktop disapears and i cant eneble them back now i am in guest sesion because only this works
[07:49] <keepguessing> Flannel: then ran apt-get update and it failed with "apt-get: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version GLIBCXX_2.3.14' not found( required by apt-get)"
[07:49] <ilea> how to fix this problem or how to activate desktop cube and dont get this
[07:49] <ikonia> how can it be missing the core libc
[07:49] <ilea> ?
[07:49] <Flannel> keepguessing: Yeah, like we were saying, something is awry.  What CD did you use to install?
[07:49] <frustro> I was working on a vm and tried a key combo, ctl-alt and - I believe, then my desktop went 800x600, not I have it back to 1280x720 but I have a back bar all around.
[07:50] <frustro> *now
[07:50] <keepguessing> Flannel: Downloaded the 32 bit 11.04 iso from the ubuntu website
[07:50] <keepguessing> Flannel: and installed the default stuff
[07:51] <Flannel> keepguessing: I'd try redownloading via bittorrent, then burn and verify from the booted, burned CD.  Just to be sure.  You definately shouldn't be missing libstdc by default.
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> ilea: what video chip are you using?
[07:51] <ilea> nvidia
[07:51] <Flannel> keepguessing: Here's the link: http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-11.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> ilea: and did you install the proprietary nvidia driver?
[07:51] <keepguessing> Flannel: hmm ok
[07:52] <ilea> yes i installed the recomanded updated driver
[07:52] <ilea> for curent version
[07:52] <ilea> wobly window works but i get that when i try to enable desktop cube
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> ilea: ok then the default shortcut is Ctrl+ALT plus click and drag afair, or Ctrl+ALT+leftcursor or rightcursor
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> ilea: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[07:53] <ilea> the problem is that when i activate desktop cube everithing on desktop disapears
[07:54] <ilea> the unity bar and the other one
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> ilea: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[07:55] <ilea> how to check this?
[07:55] <ilea> in terminal?
[07:55] <Zeroe> So no one has a response to my last question? How about how to connect to a WPA2 wireless router through terminal using the ubuntu server edition
[07:55] <blackshirt> Zeroe: you can use iwconfig
[07:56] <pm-> here is a a nice video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h86ml5iJBz4&feature=fvst discuss
[07:56] <Zeroe> well I think I used that, but it didn't let me connect
[07:56] <ikonia> pm-: that is nothing to do with ubuntu - so a.) please don't post it b.) don't discuss it
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> ilea: yes, in terminal
[07:56] <pm-> ikonia
[07:56] <pm-> i am so sorry
[07:56] <ikonia> pm-: not a problem
[07:56] <pm-> but you are now a super faggot
[07:56] <FloodBot1> pm-: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:56] <pm-> and i will
[07:56] <pm-> find you
[07:57] <ilea> i tried and dosnt work it says comand not found
[07:59] <solaries> hi all
[07:59] <solaries> how can I check why my headphone jack does not work? It used to work using KDE/pulseaudio, but now I try to run bare ALSA and only got it working with the normal Laptop speakers
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> solaries: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[08:01] <solaries> here we go: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=d59ac5be4f6d122052571d784e75396faa9da26b
[08:01] <solaries> sorry for utmost noob questions ahead :-|
[08:01] <lotecho45> ?
[08:02] <lotecho45> hi anybody here
[08:02] <solaries> ActionParsnip: also I have not understood the relationship between pulseaudio and alsa yet
[08:02] <lotecho45> hi can anybody conecto to facebook or msn?
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> lotecho45: on facebook rightnow using chromium daily build
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> solaries: so the headphone jack doesn't give sound?
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> solaries: do the speakers cut out when you shove in the headphones?
[08:04] <lotecho45> is there a problem with msn, i cant conect to msn messenger anymore and i can access facebook neather
[08:04] <solaries> ActionParsnip: unfortunately now
[08:04] <solaries> no
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> lotecho45: what client(s) have you tried? Can you ping the login server? is anyone in ##windows having the same issue.
[08:05] <lotecho45> i have windows on the on my lap and can acces to msn hotmail and facebook
[08:05] <lotecho45> but not in linux
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> solaries: are any of the levels muted in alsamixer   (run it in terminal, use M to mute/unmute, cursors to navigate and ESC to exit)
[08:06] <lotecho45> i try other distros and same thing happen
[08:06] <solaries> ActionParsnip: I already checked
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> lotecho45: what clients have you tried?
[08:06] <lotecho45> all of them
[08:06] <hearnoseeno> why are there 6 rc.d?'s
[08:06] <lotecho45> emesene pidgin amsn
[08:07] <lotecho45> and i cant access hotmail, i try all webbroser, firefox opera, chomium
[08:07] <hearnoseeno> it seems as if there are multiple links within each rc*.d to the same init.d script wtf
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> solaries: does sound work ok from speakers?
[08:08] <ensi> hello, how do i change the colors of the theme in the latest ubuntu?
[08:09] <ensi> control-panel -> appearance
[08:09] <solaries> ActionParsnip: yes. I just found the following: When I put my headphones into the laptop, it mutes Speaker and Master. Then I have to again unmute them
[08:09] <ensi> caon only change the theem but not the the colors and stuff
[08:09] <solaries> Now it works, but everytime I have to go to alsamixer and unmute
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> solaries: try:  echo "'options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> solaries: least it works a little, the option may help, reboot to test :)
[08:10] <solaries> sure, thx a lot!
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> ensi: possibly gnome-tweak-tool
[08:11] <solaries> ActionParsnip: reloading alsa won't work?
[08:11] <ensi> ActionParsnip: dont have such tool
[08:11] <ensi> ah rfound it
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> solaries: you could unload and load the module if you want
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> ensi: install it then.......
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> solaries: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/537448/+index?comments=all
[08:15] <ensi> ActionParsnip: cannot change colors with this
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> ensi: gah, that's all I know personally, defaults are fine here except the wallpaper
[08:20] <ensi> well this theme appears to have black color for popup window background
[08:20] <ensi> and the font is also black
[08:20] <ensi> so not very useful
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> ensi: http://askubuntu.com/questions/49348/how-do-i-set-a-theme-in-oneiric
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> ensi: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[08:21] <HDroid> Hi.. lately my fonts have been acting up, I run without anti-aliasing so some roughness is expected but the purple words are off: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/100/fontsc.png/ funny thing is, they fixed themselves, but after a while they.. unfixed themselves. Any idea what's going on? I've cleared font caches.
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> ensi: gnome-tweak-tool has this: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-AV91jNOQrOA/TpcXSq-7kwI/AAAAAAAAFBU/NTPZW2iky0c/s1600/gnome-tweak-tool.png
[08:30] <ensi> ActionParsnip: ok thanks
[08:39] <gepla> hi alls
[08:44] <|Frodo|> hello! I have a strange problem: booting my old notebook (256 MiB RAM; no harddisk) with kubuntu live DVD, my PCMCIA WLAN card (compaq WL 110) is recogniced and configured in a way, that I am able touse WPA.
[08:44] <makara> what frontend offers the functionality of the compiz-config-manager - where you can ctrl+alt+num9 to get the window into the top right - for instance
[08:45] <pozic> The GUI told me that the upgrade to 11.10 failed while computing requirements. How can I upgrade in some other way?
[08:45] <pozic> Or to see some actual problem instead of some dumbed down interface which doesn't tell me anything useful.
[08:45] <makara> Frodo: type "rfkill list" and see if any are blocked
[08:45] <|Frodo|> poorly I can not lealy work with ubuntu caused of the small RAM size. so I am trying to use "grml" live CD.
[08:47] <|Frodo|> the suppising problem is, that with "grml" my WLAN card is not able to use WPA, only WEP is supported there! how can I find out, what ubuntu makes "better" then "grml"?
[08:48] <|Frodo|> makara: ok, I#ll try rfkill
[08:48] <bobet> any idea how to change password on openfire admin console
[08:48] <llutz_> |Frodo|: check what kernel-module(driver) grml/ubuntu uses, check versions
[08:49] <makara> frodo: its something else. really old card?
[08:49] <|Frodo|> makara: about 10 years old
[08:50] <pozic> I get: E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may becaused by held packages.
[08:51] <mr_lou> In my Ubuntu installation at home, I can press WindowsKey + N or M to invert all colors. What is it I have installed in order to be able to do that? I'd like to be able to do the same at work.
[08:53] <pozic> How do I do a release upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 on an extremely standard installation of ubuntu?
[08:53] <pozic> I don't get how you have managed to make it not work with everything configured with defaults.
[08:54] <pozic> It's not like I am the only one on the planet with these issues.
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> pozic: what is the output of:  tail -n 1 /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[08:56] <Nitrodist> where do I start if I were to update a piece of software that ubuntu hosts?
[08:56] <pozic> ActionParsnip: Prompt=normal
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> pozic: ad who is this "you" you are referencing?
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> *and
[08:56] <Nitrodist> I mean, a piece of software that exists in ubuntu's repositories
[08:56] <iceroot> pozic: output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and "cat /etc/issue"
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> Nitrodist: could report a bug, there may be a ppa too
[08:57] <pozic> ActionParsnip: 'you' = whoever implemented this non working system.
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> pozic: run:   sudo apt-get install update-manager-core; sudo do-release-upgrade
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> pozic: pastebin the result if there are any issues
[08:58] <Nitrodist> ActionParsnip: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/beanstalkd is the only package that's 1.4.3 while the rest are up to date at 1.4.6
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> Nitrodist: is there a ppa?
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> !ppa  | Nitrodist
[09:00] <Nitrodist> ActionParsnip: does not appear so
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> Nitrodist: then all I can recommend is a bug report
[09:01] <Nitrodist> ActionParsnip: thanks
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> pozic: is it running?
[09:01] <pozic> ActionParsnip: not yet
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> pozic: np
[09:02] <Nitrodist> lsb_release -rd
[09:03] <Nitrodist> woop :P
[09:03] <pozic> ActionParsnip: I only don't really get why it bothers me with so many questions.
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> pozic: its if you added any 3rd party sources and such
[09:03] <pozic> ActionParsnip: like 'some sources have been disabled, press ENTER to continue'.
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> pozic: quite normal
[09:04] <pozic> ActionParsnip: and it doesn't work.
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> pozic: can you pastebin the output please
[09:04] <iceroot> pozic: output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and "cat /etc/issue"
[09:04] <pozic> ActionParsnip: http://paste.debian.net/149589/
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> pozic: ok can you pastebin the output of:   sudo apt-get upate; sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:06] <pozic> iceroot: http://paste.debian.net/149590/
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> pozic: why do you have the proposed repo enabled?
[09:07] <pozic> ActionParsnip: do you mean the held back packages?
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> pozic: the whole output of the command I gave please
[09:07] <iceroot> pozic: proposed is the dev-repo
[09:07] <pozic> ActionParsnip: do you want me to run the command too?
[09:07] <pozic> ActionParsnip: it needs to download about 1GB.\
[09:07] <iceroot> pozic: something like "debian sid"
[09:08] <pozic> iceroot: ok, so that's not what I want.
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> pozic: those are the updates, it may square off the system and make things better
[09:08] <|Frodo|> mysterty: sorry, reboting took a while...  rfkill says, that nothing is blockled.
[09:08] <gemunu> Ive installed php Eclipse on ubuntu10.04.3 and Start or Stop LAMP and Mysql is not working. It says Could not execute ......
[09:08] <pozic> Proposed updates doesn't sound like sid.
[09:08] <iceroot> pozic: also it seems your system is on 10.10 and your sourceslist and a broken update is showing 11.04
[09:09] <pozic> iceroot: I am sure it is 11.04.
[09:09] <pozic> iceroot: because I ran Unity on it.
[09:09] <iceroot> pozic: you want to update from 11.04 to 11.10?
[09:09] <pozic> iceroot: yes
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> pozic: you can create an Oneiric install media, part of the CD is to upgrade an established install
[09:10] <pozic> ActionParsnip: http://paste.debian.net/149592/
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> pozic: wow, you have a lot of packages, have you ever upgraded the install?
[09:12] <iceroot> pozic: i would suggest to run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and then do the release-update
[09:12] <ubuntu> yo
[09:12] <ubuntu> can someone help me
[09:12] <Scott_S> What do you need, Ubuntu?
[09:12] <pozic> ActionParsnip: I have +-4500 packages installed.
[09:12] <ubuntu> where can i download adobe flash player and what version
[09:12] <Scott_S> Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[09:12] <ubuntu> or better yet how can i use terminal to get it
[09:12] <pozic> ActionParsnip: yes, I have.
[09:12] <ubuntu> there we go thanks
[09:12] <pozic> ActionParsnip: although, why would I want to update every single day>
[09:12] <pozic> ActionParsnip: I have better things to do.
[09:13] <pozic> ActionParsnip: also, all this system administration is not what I want to do.
[09:13] <pozic> I just want to press a button 'upgrade' and have it be upgraded.
[09:13] <pozic> If Ubuntu cannot do that, I must find greener pastures.
[09:13] <Scott_S> Pozic: Updates are available twice a year for installations. However, dependencies change every time you update, causing incompatibilities.
[09:14] <ubuntu> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[09:14] <Scott_S> ubuntu: sudo apt-get update
[09:14] <pozic> Scott_S: lack of QA causes incompatibilities.
[09:14] <pozic> Scott_S: this is a chronic problem.
[09:15] <pozic> Scott_S: the problem doesn't lie with whoever creates the actual software; the problem lies with the packagers.
[09:15] <ikonia> pozic: please stop talking nonsense
[09:15] <iceroot> pozic | ActionParsnip: although, why would I want to update every single day>  <- security-updates
[09:15] <pozic> ikonia: All I can see is Ubuntu wasting time of my life.
[09:15] <pozic> iceroot: it is not a server.
[09:16] <ubuntu> Reading package lists... Done
[09:16] <ubuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[09:16] <Scott_S> pozic: Are you a Windows user mainly?
[09:16] <ikonia> pozic: don't use it then, there are other distros
[09:16] <iceroot> pozic: you have a support question or just flaming? if just flaming please type /wc else you are welcome to discuss your issues here
[09:16] <pozic> Scott_S: ...
[09:16] <ubuntu> flash player still isnt loading youtube
[09:16] <ubuntu> video*
[09:16] <iceroot> ubuntu: restarted the browser?
[09:16] <pozic> Scott_S: I likely used Linux longer than you did.
[09:16] <Scott_S> ubuntu: Did Flash player install correctly? restart your browser if it did.
[09:16] <ubuntu> ah nope
[09:16] <ikonia> pozic: I suggest finding another distro instead of ranting in here
[09:16] <pozic> Scott_S: I just expect things to work, except somehow every single time it doesn't. I don't have that problem with other distros.
[09:17] <iceroot> pozic: stop it now
[09:17] <ikonia> pozic: using other distros is the way forward, please stop ranting
[09:17] <Scott_S> pozic: I've never had an issue with Ubuntu; either drop the distro, or deal with inevitable issues amongst different releases of a distro. I will drop this argument now.
[09:17] <ikonia> Scott_S: thanks
[09:17] <pozic> It almost seems as if Canonical breaks things on purpose.
[09:17] <ikonia> pozic: last warning - you've had many warnings in the past
[09:17] <bazhang> pozic, thats enough.
[09:18] <ikonia> pozic: use a different distro if you don't like it, it's that simple
[09:18] <pozic> ikonia: you are bad at coping with criticism.
[09:18] <Scott_S> ikonia: My apologies for fueling the argument.
[09:18] <ikonia> Scott_S: you didn't know, he has form
[09:20] <ubuntu> flash player is now working
[09:20] <ubuntu> thanks for the help
[09:21] <Scott_S> ubuntu: Good to hear. If you need more help, just come back here, or use Google to try and solve the issue first. We're always here to hel.
[09:21] <Scott_S> help
[09:21] <ubuntu> ill probably be back later, since im running off a live cd and its my only choice to, more computer problems but working things as i get to it
[09:22] <ubuntu> google will be my first choice, if google cant help iljust come back hereto bug you for a few more minutes
[09:23] <skilz> Is there any program where I can speak and it is typed as text on te screen into any selected window
[09:24] <skilz> Like if I click on a pigin conversation window and say hello how are you? it is typed into coversation window
[09:24] <skilz> or if I click my browser and say google.com its typed
[09:25] <Scott_S> skilz: This is slightly outdated, but it might be what you're looking for: http://vedics.sourceforge.net/
[09:41] <Kryczek> Hi everybody! I have a slight problem and I hope you can help: I'm using TrustedGRUB (Grub 0.9 with TPM support, not in packages unfortunately) and regularly the Ubuntu updates try to overwrite it with Grub 2; I tried to "hold" grub-pc but it doesn't seem to work when the package is uninstalled... Any ideas?
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> !pin
[09:42] <makara> just installed 11.10 64bit. Wireless not connecting on an ath9k card. What to do?
[09:42] <shades> hello
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> makara: what wifi chip?
[09:43] <shades> when I'm installing something all I see is a progress bar, can I get more information about this in the Ubuntu Software Center?
[09:43] <shades> oh wait I see it now
[09:45] <makara> ActionParsnip: AR9285
[09:46] <conntrack> Hallo
[09:47] <hacked_kernel> who maintain the Unix-Philosophy nowadays?
[09:48] <bazhang> hacked_kernel, what does that have to do with ubuntu support?
[09:48] <orated> Hello! Is there a way to play media file in command line mode itself? .m3u files specifically
[09:48] <Scott_S> Makara: Add "blacklist acer-wmi" to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[09:48] <bazhang> orated, tried with mplayer?
[09:48] <popey> orated: mplayer?
[09:49] <conntrack> How do I change time_wait in tcp.h without recompling the kernel?
[09:50] <orated> No, will try it now. I remember reading about mpeg123 and probably vlc allowing that
[09:50] <hacked_kernel> bazhang, Ubuntu is a Unix-like, so where else should I discuss that?
[09:50] <Scott_S> hacked_kernel: ##linux
[09:50] <bazhang> hacked_kernel, use alis to search a unix channel
[09:51] <bazhang> !alis | hacked_kernel
[09:51] <makara> Scott_S: it's still soft blocked
[09:51] <Scott_S> makara: Reboot.
[09:51] <orated> hacked_kernel: ##unix ##linux
[09:53] <shal3r> Where to write commands to be executed at Ubuntu Server startup?
[09:53] <Kryczek> ActionParsnip: thanks; I read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto but I do not see how to prevent grub-pc from installing... I tried writing a /etc/apt/preferences file with "Package: grub-pc" and "Pin-Priority: 1001" but I don't see how to tell APT to keep it uninstalled and "Pin: release n=(none)" does not work
[09:53] <Kryczek> shal3r: /etc/rc.local
[09:54] <makara> Scott_S: rfkill list all unblocked, but not connecting and I notice I don't have an IP address on wired or wireless
[09:54] <Scott_S> makara: Have you rebooted the system? Sorry, you didn't state if you had or not lol.
[09:54] <makara> yes i have
[09:55] <Scott_S> makara: That's odd. Sorry, I am still searching for solutions.
[09:56] <hugokuo> hi all
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> Kryczek: that's all I know or can recommend, sorry
[09:56] <hugokuo> how can I change the name of scsi driver  .... for example   change /dev/sda   to /dev/sdb
[09:56] <Scott_S> makara: Apparently it's "acer_wmi" instead of "acer-wmi"
[09:56] <cousin_luigi> Greetings.
[09:57] <cousin_luigi> Empathy doesn't open windows, for some reason.
[09:57] <cousin_luigi> Any idea?
[09:57] <orated> bazhang: popey: Perfect. Mplayer plays a m3u playlist with <mplayer -prefer-ipv4 -playlist playlist.m3u> Thanks!
[09:57] <geirha> hugokuo: Not much point in that really, just use UUID and/or LABEL instead of /dev/sda1 etc...
[09:58] <hugokuo> geirha , got it ... thx
[09:59] <conntrack> How do I change time_wait in tcp.h without recompling the kernel?
[09:59] <cousin_luigi> Oh, I see now it's a reported problem.
[09:59] <conntrack> It is set too high
[09:59] <conntrack> For my needs
[10:00] <makara> Scott_S: i don't think so. It worked with acer-wmi
[10:01] <Scott_S> makara: Then unfortunately I don't have too many solutions for ya', that was the only solution I found.
[10:03] <spr1813244> Good grief, I upgraded to 11.10, now I've lost my networking, and probably about 2 hours of my life googling and trying solutions. Anyone have any experience here....
[10:03] <makara> scott: thanks for trying
[10:03] <ManDay> Trying to build gcc,    collect2: ld returns 1 exit status    adn that's it. No error message, only 1 exist status. What is that?
[10:03] <shal3r> Kryczek, isn't it executed at each runlevel?
[10:09] <spr1813244> What are you supposed to do when you upgrade and your box can't connect to the lan anymore?
[10:09] <KNUBBIG> Hey, I need a LaTeX editor with automagically compiling to a PDF. Can you recommend anything? Spellchecking and other features would be nice as well. #ubuntu-bots has only three votes, that's why I'm asking here. Thanks!
[10:11] <bullgard4> How to decompose a .ogg file containing 20 songs in 20 .ogg files containing 1 song each?
[10:13] <Kryczek> shal3r: no no, it is executed towards the end of startup (runlevels 2, 3, 4 and 5, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runlevel#Ubuntu )
[10:13] <nafis> KNUBBIG: have you looked at any editors so far? can you recommend anything?
[10:14] <skilz> Please help!!! http://pastebin.com/v7B49Gi2
[10:15] <KNUBBIG> nafis: I need recommendations :< I dislike emacs and vim and I'm currently looking into texmaker
[10:18] <nafis> KNUBBIG: sorry I cant help, I am looking around too I currently use vim
[10:20] <kiddstarr788> hello everyone
[10:20] <KNUBBIG> kiddstarr788: hi
[10:21] <kiddstarr788> just having a small problem
[10:22] <KNUBBIG> !ask
[10:22] <kiddstarr788> cant get my andriod commander program on my pc to get root access to my andriod samsung infuse
[10:23] <nafis> !patience
[10:24] <KNUBBIG> I'm not entirely sure but, without 'rooting' shouldn't root access be forbidden?
[10:24] <KNUBBIG> and that might be !ot cause it's not really Ubuntu-related
[10:25] <kiddstarr788> i have successfully rooted the phome and connected it to my pc and the andriod commander picked it up on the device list but says that root access is unavable.
[10:26] <bazhang> kiddstarr788, how is this related to ubuntu support?
[10:27] <bullgard4> How to decompose a .ogg file containing 20 songs in 20 .ogg files containing 1 song each?
[10:28] <kiddstarr788> first time on this website really didnt know what channel to go to for this problem
[10:29] <bazhang> kiddstarr788, try an android channel
[10:29] <jntu> hai everyone.....after installing ubuntu 10.10 in my pc.i am unable to boot into windows it automatically booting into ubuntu please help me fix this problem
[10:29] <bazhang> !alis | kiddstarr788
[10:30] <iceroot> jntu: at boot press "shift" to bring up the grub-bootmenu and choose windows there
[10:30] <iceroot> jntu: to change the order have a look at the links from ubottu
[10:30] <iceroot> !grub | jntu
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: could use mp3splt
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/intrepid/man1/ogmsplit.1.html
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> !info ogmsplit
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: seems mp3splt does it http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/gutsy/man1/oggsplt.1.html
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> gah
[10:36] <osmosis_paul> Hi, I'm trying to expand the permisions of one user to can access the system by ssh but I cannot found how
[10:36] <osmosis_paul> he only have now sftp access?
[10:36] <osmosis_paul> any idea please
[10:36] <EmoBoiix3> ?
[10:36] <iceroot> osmosis_paul: sftp and ssh are the same
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> osmosis_paul: did you set the user to the shell /bin/flase
[10:37] <iceroot> osmosis_paul: if you have ssh access you have sftp access, if you have sftp access you have ssh access
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> /bin/false   sorry
[10:37] <EmoBoiix3> anyone compiled Android using Ubuntu?
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: if youo set a false shell (false instead of bash) will that stop sftp access
[10:37] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: yes
[10:37] <osmosis_paul> no, no I'm my configuration we give rules to connect some users only with sftp tools no by terminal
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: bums
[10:37] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: sftp needs a valid login-shell too
[10:38] <iceroot> osmosis_paul: you mean sftp? not ftps? or ftp?
[10:38] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: imo there was a special login-shell to have sftp and not ssh
[10:38] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: but that is not the default
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/94
[10:38] <iceroot> osmosis_paul: sftp = ftp over ssh
[10:38] <osmosis_paul> iceroot, I know
[10:39] <osmosis_paul> but I create a special rule to give them sftp access but not by terminal
[10:39] <osmosis_paul> and now I dont know how to give them that rights again
[10:39] <osmosis_paul> so sftp yes but not ssh by terminal.
[10:40] <iceroot> osmosis_paul: usermod -s /usr/lib/sftp-server username  so give only sftp access, usermod -s /bin/bash username to give ssh and sftp access
[10:41] <osmosis_paul> iceroot, thanks a lot dude!
[10:41] <iceroot> osmosis_paul: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/94
[10:41] <osmosis_paul> I will put in my bookmakrs thanks again
[10:41] <alex__> hello everyone! how to make writing permissions in samba? i need it for different autentificated users.. how to add users, and manage permissions?
[10:42] <bullgard4> ActionParsnip: I have installed now the package »mp3splt« and associated dependencies. I will try my luck now. --  Thank you very much for your help.
[10:43] <EmoBoiix3> Hey guys, noob question here.....but which desktop takes up the least RAM?
[10:43] <iceroot> EmoBoiix3: from the supported ones, lxde (lubuntu-desktop)
[10:44] <EmoBoiix3> I see, thank you :)
[10:44] <osmosis_paul> iceroot, does not work, are you sure is usermod -s /bin/bash username???
[10:45] <iceroot> osmosis_paul: sudo usermod -s /bin/bash username
[10:45] <EmoBoiix3> well, there's a strange thing with LXDE.....it doesn't allow me to overwrite folders. It'll come up with a "Directory not empty" error.
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: np man
[10:45] <iceroot> osmosis_paul: -s, --shell SHELL The name of the user's new login shell. Setting this field to blank causes the system to select the default login shell.
[10:45] <osmosis_paul> iceroot, I'm connected as root
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> EmoBoiix3: is that in pcmanfm?
[10:45] <EmoBoiix3> yes
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> EmoBoiix3: let me try
[10:46] <EmoBoiix3> I'm logged in as root.....if that helps
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> EmoBoiix3: could be why
[10:47] <iceroot> EmoBoiix3: dont use the desktop as root
[10:47] <EmoBoiix3> :/ I need root for other stuff.....
[10:47] <EmoBoiix3> Oh well
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> EmoBoiix3: I just made an empty folder, then the same named folder in a different location and I was asked if I wanted to overwrite
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> EmoBoiix3: just use sudo, you don't need root all the time and running an X server as root is not very smart
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> EmoBoiix3: nor is running a web browser as root either...
[10:49] <DarkStar1> Hi all Does the amd 64 download of ubuntu means that I can install it in a core i5 system?
[10:49] <EmoBoiix3> I see.....yeah Chrome is an ass to install when as root hahahaha
[10:49] <deej1976> DarkStar1: Yes
[10:49] <EmoBoiix3> DarkStarl: I think so
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar1: if its a 64bit cpu, it will work
[10:49] <DarkStar1> deej1976: thx
[10:49] <ksx4system> http://wklej.org/id/650784/txt/ any idea how to cut this so I can see only first field (time itself, two examples provided)?
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> EmoBoiix3: the OS is geared around people using the OS correctly, as user. That's why
[10:50] <Soul> fucking
[10:50] <Soul> niggers.
[10:50] <FloodBot1> Soul: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:50] <iceroot> !ops | Soul
[10:50] <EmoBoiix3> ActionParsnip: I see....
[10:51] <EmoBoiix3> Is Android, iOS and Meego based on Linux?
[10:51] <cousin_luigi> EmoBoiix3: android and meego are
[10:51] <LjL> EmoBoiix3: Android and Meego yes, iOS no. anyway, #ubuntu-offtopic would be much more appropriate for this
[10:52] <iceroot> EmoBoiix3: #anbdroid, #ios, #meego
[10:52] <EmoBoiix3> LjL: oops, sorry
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> EmoBoiix3: yes, if you have an android phone go to Settings -> About phone     and you'll see your kernel version
[10:52] <EmoBoiix3> Mmmhmm....
[10:55] <mazda01> anyone care to try to assist and tell me why my iphone 4 won't pop up when i plug it into my highly custimized 10.04.3 install? running gnome?
[10:55] <conntrack> doh
[10:55] <iceroot> mazda01: dmesg
[10:55] <mazda01> i plug it in and it doesn't even show up in fdisk -l
[10:55] <iceroot> !iphone | mazda01
[10:55] <mazda01> iceroot, sure
[10:56] <mazda01> iceroot, i'll check out the links, dmesg is showing usb 1-5: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 12  so is it a udev issue?
[10:57] <iceroot> mazda01: i dont know, i never used apple products, maybe its not a bug maybe a feature
[10:57] <iceroot> mazda01: there was something about gtkpod to mount these strange apple products
[10:57] <EmoBoiix3> brb going to restart to ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[10:58] <mazda01> iceroot, lol, the reason i know it works out of the box is because It works in a brand new install of 10.04.3. i'lll  read the link, thanks
[10:58] <mazda01> iceroot, oh, and I tried gtkpod
[10:58] <mazda01> already
[10:59] <conntrack> back
[10:59] <mazda01> DOH! If you have a password set up on your device, unlock it first before connecting the USB cable, otherwise Ubuntu will not recognize it.
[11:00] <conntrack> ah gone
[11:00] <iceroot> mazda01: :)
[11:01] <mazda01> iceroot, nope, still nothing, now it shows as address 13. this "issue" will require some digging  :-)
[11:08] <jwtiyar> i have dual boot , after formatting my windows i cant now boot to my ubuntu
[11:08] <GeorgeJ> Hello folks. How would one make thunderbird start in the background under Ubuntu 11.10?
[11:08] <iceroot> !grub | jwtiyar
[11:09] <mazda01> jwtiyar, that's because windows overwrote grub right?
[11:09] <mazda01> iceroot, you're on top of your game. :-)
[11:10] <jwtiyar> ANY ONE HERE?
[11:10] <mang0> jwtiyar....
[11:10] <mang0> jwtiyar: There are 1474 people here.
[11:10] <mang0> 5
[11:11] <c4g2> hi kids!
[11:11] <joco> soprajs
[11:12] <c4g2> anybd in here?
[11:12] <joco> yeeeeeeeeee
[11:12] <c4g2> whats uuuuup!!??
[11:12] <joco> who are you
[11:12] <c4g2> im fucking awsome
[11:12] <c4g2> kitty
[11:12] <joco> male/female
[11:13] <c4g2> a both
[11:13] <master__> hey c4g2
[11:13] <joco> da mi go kuris pusov
[11:13] <c4g2> hi sweety
[11:13] <master__> gon sie
[11:13] <LjL> !offtopic
[11:13] <LjL> !english
[11:13] <joco> give me your fb
[11:13] <master__> ok
[11:13] <LjL> please keep the chit-chat out of here
[11:13] <master__> i'll
[11:13] <master__> give me a minute
[11:14] <jwtiyar> when i want install some program to install with live usb it say no space on device how to make more space?
[11:14] <Haematoma> Does anyone here have experience recovering deleted data?
[11:15] <LjL> !recover | Haematoma, there might be some useful hints here
[11:15] <e01> my notification area is hidden in unity, is it possible to show it again?
[11:15] <e01> restarting x seems not help
[11:18] <jwtiyar> when i want install some program to install with live usb it say no space on device how to make more space?	
[11:20] <WaltherFI> Does Ubuntu support the newest Intel HD graphics in the sandy bridge cpu's?
[11:23] <nb-ben> WaltherFI, yes
[11:23] <WaltherFI> nb-ben: How well does it perform?
[11:23] <nb-ben> I am currently running Ubuntu with Intel DH61WW
[11:23] <nb-ben> well, doesn't seem to miss anything
[11:24] <nb-ben> WaltherFI, just as it should
[11:24] <WaltherFI> So, talking about the i5-2500k and i7-2600k here
[11:25] <MrPumpkincitis> anyone have a command line command to send a jpg pic from my desktop to usr/share/backgrounds?
[11:25] <nb-ben> cp /home/YOU/Desktop/pic.jpg /usr/share/backgrounds
[11:25] <sagaci> MrPumpkincitis: sudo cp ~/Desktop/*.jpg /usr/share/backgrounds
[11:26] <MrPumpkincitis> sagaci:thanks
[11:26] <jwtiyar> when i want install some program to install with live usb it say no space on device how to make more space?		
[11:29] <jake_> list
[11:30] <jake_> hi
[11:32] <jake_> i need help
[11:33] <jidero> bonjour à tous
[11:35] <fhonor> hello
[11:35] <fhonor> somebody can help me?
[11:35] <jwtiyar> plzzz help
[11:35] <fhonor> i need know how i can writte in partition NTFS
[11:36] <fhonor> ....
[11:36] <fhonor> somebody know it?
[11:36] <fhonor> please private
[11:38] <Twinkletoes> fhonor: You just weant to create an NTFS partition, or write a file to an existing one?
[11:38] <MrPumpkincitis> went to Places and cannot find my usr/ directory. Where is it located. I am showing hidden files
[11:40] <utilizador> bo dia
[11:40] <pybit> usr/ directory is in the File System...
[11:40] <MrPumpkincitis> where?
[11:41] <Twinkletoes> MrPumpkincitis: If you browse to the top level of your file system (in My Places?), usr/ is a directory in there
[11:41] <mazda01> brainfart, how do i get the location bar at the top of nautilus to appear?
[11:42] <pybit> cntl +l
[11:42] <Twinkletoes> Most of the articles I've found about squid, talk of authentication using apache2-utils.  Is that more preferred than pam_auth for squid?
[11:44] <coldwind> it's my (subjective) impression that bugs and regressions in the Ubuntu desktop increase with each new release; isn't there a plan to solve this problem? there seems to be too much focus on new features and new shiny desktop technologies while a lot of laptops are working worse with each new release...
[11:44] <MrPumpkincitis> is there a command I can use to locate the  usr/directory
[11:45] <MrPumpkincitis> that shows its path
[11:45] <Twinkletoes> MrPumpkincitis: I told you where it is... it's there alright
[11:45] <Twinkletoes> MrPumpkincitis: It's path is /usr
[11:45] <MrPumpkincitis> i went to my /home and showing hidden files and not seeing it
[11:45] <Twinkletoes> MrPumpkincitis: If you open a terminal, and type:     ls -al /usr     you'll see it's contents
[11:46] <tightwork> coldwind: I agree. There does not seem to be the notion of a 'stable' branch anymore
[11:46] <Giammy94> ciao
[11:46] <Twinkletoes> MrPumpkincitis: /home is NOT the top level...
[11:46] <Giammy94> !list
[11:46] <Giammy94> how i can take the list?
[11:46] <tightwork> coldwind: I can generally find a bug for much of what I try out
[11:47] <MrPumpkincitis> so how do i get to the top level
[11:47] <tightwork> coldwind: I suppose a lot of this is because ubuntu follows debian tooth and nail
[11:48] <Twinkletoes> MrPumpkincitis: The top level is referred to as   /
[11:48] <MrPumpkincitis> root
[11:48] <MrPumpkincitis> thanks
[11:48] <Twinkletoes> MrPumpkincitis: This will help you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard
[11:48] <MrPumpkincitis> thanks
[11:48] <tightwork> coldwind: So debian will change packages, and then ubuntu will try to integrate there will be duplicates, things will get jumbled packages will get backported, dependencies wont catch up
[11:48] <coldwind> tightwork: actually I think it's because of too rapid changes. All technologies in the ubuntu desktop are turned upside down with pretty much every release. This leads to many regressions if the release cycle is too short
[11:49] <tightwork> coldwind: sure thats the idea of having a stable branch
[11:49] <coldwind> tightwork: yep, of course Debian does not have this problem because each stable release takes years before launch ;)
[11:49] <coldwind> but Ubuntu is probably too on the other extreme these days
[11:52] <tightwork> coldwind: I come from Gentoo world myself, where there was a strict x86 stable branch and one could choose to go testing by unmasking keywords
[11:52] <pybit> looking forward april lts release
[11:52] <tightwork> coldwind: unfortunately when it comes to automation gentoo has not been a good candidate
[11:52] <coldwind> tightwork: I come from being a Gentoo developer myself ;)
[11:53] <tightwork> ie; chef
[11:53] <tightwork> coldwind: I'm using sabayon on the desktop atm :)  ubuntu for servers (I still have my gentoo servers here and there of course)
[11:56] <coldwind> tightwork: I guess Sabayon could be an option for me; I just want a binary distribution that just works and has recent development tools. I just want to go ahead and develop my stuff, not develop my distro.
[11:57] <tightwork> coldwind: If you came from Gentoo you will like it. It is bleeding edge too. I am doing a little fighting with ruby atm, but who isnt.
[11:58] <coldwind> well, my point is that I don't want to do any fighting at all, except when I'm trying something exotic
[11:58] <tightwork> what are you trying to do?
[11:59] <tightwork> just code?
[11:59] <coldwind> tightwork: yeah, most of the time
[11:59] <coldwind> coding Python, Java, Mono, Octave, etc.
[12:00] <mazda01> brainfart, how do i get the location bar at the top of nautilus to appear?
[12:00] <dr_willis> mazda01:  ctrl-l
[12:00] <mazda01> dr_willis, thanks
[12:00] <coldwind> my rant comes from silly regressions: mouse stops working is the latest one
[12:01] <dr_willis> mazda01:  theres some setting to make it always show.
[12:01] <mazda01> dr_willis, my issue is that somehow the built in cd/dvd creator app has a file owned by root in it so I cant delete or do anything to it
[12:01] <tightwork> coldwind: hardware is good?
[12:01] <dr_willis> mazda01:  odd.. You running nautulus as root right now?
[12:02] <coldwind> tightwork: sure, it's a new X-related bug
[12:03] <mazda01> dr_willis, i can
[12:03] <tightwork> coldwind: on oneiric?
[12:03] <coldwind> tightwork: yeah, it's already filed
[12:03] <coldwind> tightwork: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/884255 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/873191 <- my latest ones
[12:03] <dr_willis> mazda01:  from what ive seen in here.. often running nautilus as root, can cause some config files and so forth to get made in the users home, but owned by root. so i make a point to never run nautilus as root. :)
[12:03] <tightwork> coldwind: oh synaptics touchpad eh
[12:04] <mazda01> dr_willis, it's gksudo, not sudo
[12:04] <coldwind> tightwork: USB mouse stops clicks stop working too ;)
[12:04] <tightwork> coldwind: if it makes you feel better. I recently ran my i5 acer laptop all weekend on the sabayon live cd for testing.. all good
[12:04] <dr_willis> mazda01:  honestly cant say ive ever notice it make a differance. :)   im on a headless server 90% of the time these days
[12:04] <tightwork> gnome3
[12:04] <tightwork> if u like that :)
[12:05] <coldwind> tightwork: I might give it a try at some point
[12:05] <mazda01> dr_willis, lol, gotcha. i have gnome on my main workstation
[12:06] <tightwork> coldwind: i feel your pain .. pretty crappy we cant get a mouse to work
[12:06] <bobalazs> where can i set the pc so that it doesnt go out to welcome screen after 5 minutes?
[12:06] <dr_willis> touchpad is special :)
[12:06] <dr_willis> noticed the touchpad on my new netbook supports 2 fingers = scrolling today.
[12:06] <Gorilla_No_Baka> quick question lads...(been looking on google but could not find anything ) how can i figure out /calculate the type of encryption based on the number of digits a password has?
[12:07] <tightwork> you cant
[12:07] <pybit> passwd.len()
[12:07] <tightwork> unless you just  or guess the cipher. its not gonna happen
[12:08] <tightwork> know or guess
[12:09] <affan2fly> .
[12:09] <Gorilla_No_Baka> ok lemme refrase it..  wpa/wpa 2 type of encryption selected on my router... right? say... around 63 digits... how many bits of encryption would result 128 256? is it a formula to calculate or someting?
[12:09] <mazda01> dr_willis, so, here's a photo of my dillema.  https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-NpnZSo2Crr0/Tu8pbvLdE3I/AAAAAAAABmc/jk4qFTRcaNk/s800/IMAGE_EF280070-8649-42EA-A436-0AF55B145AF9.JPG
[12:10] <pybit> prolly a 128bit
[12:10] <iSeeDeadPixels> oi :)
[12:10] <Gorilla_No_Baka> a character would  be a 4 bits right?
[12:10] <dr_willis> heh. that url is so long.. i cant click on it.. :)
[12:10] <iceroot> Gorilla_No_Baka: char = 1 byte = 8 bit
[12:10] <mazda01> dr_willis, alright, one second
[12:10] <mazda01> tiny url here I come
[12:10] <dr_willis> gotta reenable that tiny-url script for weechat someday
[12:10] <dr_willis> it auto-tinyurls  those things.. which is handy
[12:11] <mazda01> dr_willis, http://tiny.cc/359ia
[12:11] <Gorilla_No_Baka> iceroot:  stand by... lemme do some calculs
[12:12] <Gorilla_No_Baka> iceroot:  8multipled by 63 that is 504 .. would that mean i just set a 504 bits encryption on my router (wpa/wpa2)
[12:13] <dr_willis> mazda01:  i missed what the problem is...
[12:13] <iceroot> Gorilla_No_Baka: i would suggest to do some reading on wikipedia about encryption
[12:13] <dubey> hello
[12:13] <mazda01> dr_willis, can't get that iso image out of that burn box
[12:13] <Gorilla_No_Baka> there must be a forumula to calculate this kind of things...i tryoed.. there is nothing.. telling you how would you go on about calculating the type of encryption resulted from a certain lenght of a password
[12:13] <dubey> i have downloaded ubuntu 11.10 server edition to try UEC, but didn't find any option during installation
[12:14] <iceroot> Gorilla_No_Baka: that has nothing to do with ubuntu and is offtopic here
[12:14] <dubey> does it require to install something else after installation ?
[12:14] <dr_willis> mazda01:  you can find that .iso in your users home?
[12:15] <dr_willis> !info uec
[12:15] <Gorilla_No_Baka> iceroot.. as far as i am aware ubuntu comes with a networkmanager , wirelesss and ethernet and the whole nine.. things that require a password... encryption and all that
[12:15] <iceroot> Gorilla_No_Baka: but an easy example echo "hello_world" | md5sum and "echo "foo" | md5sum  will get the same hash-lenght...
[12:15] <iceroot> Gorilla_No_Baka: windows also use encryption on wifi
[12:16] <iceroot> Gorilla_No_Baka: and mac os, unix, android, debian, fedora and so on
[12:16] <Gorilla_No_Baka> who cares about windows..?
[12:16] <iceroot> Gorilla_No_Baka: so its offtopic here
[12:16] <iceroot> Gorilla_No_Baka: do some reading about that on wikipedia
[12:16] <Gorilla_No_Baka> :) iceman.. i repeat.. there is nothing on wiki..
[12:16] <Gorilla_No_Baka> nevermind..
[12:16] <Gorilla_No_Baka> thanks anyway
[12:17] <mazda01> dr_willis, no, it's not stored in home
[12:17] <mazda01> dr_willis, it came from a network drive.
[12:17] <dr_willis> mazda01:  so thats just the history of stuff you burnt in the past?
[12:17] <iceroot> Gorilla_No_Baka: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CCMP
[12:17] <mazda01> omg, how do i stop the audio bell of a alarm-clock alram? LOL
[12:18] <mazda01> dr_willis, that's what I burnt last, yes
[12:18] <mazda01> dr_willis, this is a new problem as I never copied and pasted stuff owned by root in there in the past
[12:18] <dr_willis> mazda01:  could be some config file in .config or .local then im guessing.
[12:18] <dr_willis> that is listing the history
[12:18] <dubey> any suggestion ?
[12:18] <mazda01> dr_willis, DING, thought just came over me, 1 second
[12:18] <Gorilla_No_Baka> iceroot:  reading...
[12:20] <mazda01> dr_willis, changed the ownership of that iso and still, i can't choose remove or delete. there has to be some way of accessing burn///: as root but it wont go
[12:20] <iSeeDeadPixels> does anyone know how to install ubuntu server autonomously? i have a PC of which the GPU is broken, so i want to access it through SSH...
[12:20] <iSeeDeadPixels> but it's not yet installed
[12:20] <mazda01> iSeeDeadPixels, sure, you can use the textual installer
[12:21] <mazda01> iSeeDeadPixels, oh wait, no GPU at all?
[12:21] <iSeeDeadPixels> umm nope
[12:21] <iSeeDeadPixels> no gpu
[12:23] <dr_willis> mazda01:  so you ran the burner app as root at one time?
[12:23] <Future28> Anyone here running ubuntu server?
[12:23] <mazda01> dr_willis, so, i put in new blank dvd and this pops up. if I lick yes then I cant do anything because it has that iso image in it. what command is it to launch that box so I can just alt-f2 and run gksudo before the commnd?
[12:23] <mazda01> dr_willis, no
[12:23] <Future28> If so, what's the best program to monitor traffic?
[12:23] <mazda01> http://tiny.cc/kg4sj
[12:23] <mazda01> dr_willis, http://tiny.cc/kg4sj
[12:23] <dr_willis> mazda01:  im not even sure what burner program that is you are using
[12:23] <mazda01> dr_willis, it's built  in, see photo
[12:24] <mazda01> dr_willis, ubuntu 10.04.3
[12:24] <dr_willis> mazda01:  it could be the history/config for that app is for some reason owned by root. so your user cant change it.
[12:24] <mazda01> dr_willis, stock install with tons of customizations BUT i doubt i changed anyting with that burning box that pops up
[12:27] <mazda01> does anyone know how to run the built in nautils iso burner as root? it looks like this: http://tiny.cc/kg4sj
[12:27] <iSeeDeadPixels> use brasero
[12:28] <mazda01> iSeeDeadPixels, thanks but that doesn't anwser question
[12:28] <iSeeDeadPixels> search the process name, run it as root?
[12:30] <Wiz_KeeD> can someone tell me how i can use the same browser but with different sessions? so i can login on a site with one browser and with another on the next one?
[12:30] <Wiz_KeeD> should i install another browser or how could i use firefox for that?
[12:32] <mazda01> iSeeDeadPixels, i'll try that
[12:32] <conntrack> Wiz_KeeD: search for "multiple mozilla session" in google
[12:32] <mazda01> iSeeDeadPixels, ps aux shows tons of stuff but nothing sticks out for burning
[12:33] <iSeeDeadPixels> try ps aux | grep nautilus
[12:33] <iSeeDeadPixels> or grep iso
[12:33] <mazda01> /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-burn --spawner :1.5 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/1
[12:33] <iSeeDeadPixels> tadah
[12:34] <mazda01> now it won't run though by merely adding sksudo
[12:34] <mazda01> gksudo
[12:34] <qosmos> hello
[12:35] <qosmos> nick AAA
[12:36] <mazda01> iSeeDeadPixels, alt-f2, i enter gksudo gvfsd-burn --spawner :1.5 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/1 BUT nothing appears after I enter root password
[12:37] <iSeeDeadPixels> try gksudo gvfsd-burn --spawner
[12:37] <BluesKaj> hey all
[12:38] <mazda01> iSeeDeadPixels, that can't be it because nautilus is launching
[12:38] <dr_willis> or gksudo nautilus, then click on an iso file and launch it?
[12:39] <dr_willis> I wonder if its a zetigiest history type entry.
[12:47] <mazda01> dr_willis, that didn't work
[12:47] <mazda01> dr_willis, so, i can burn another iso whenever i want. the problem IS when I insert a new disk in 1 day, that darn iso is still sitting there
[12:50] <whiteAfrican> i need help
[12:50] <whiteAfrican> i got SMTP 25 tcp open,but i want to close it
[12:50] <whiteAfrican> how do i do that
[12:51] <iceroot> whiteAfrican: stop the smtp-daemon or block the port with a firewall (iptables or ufw)
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> !ufw
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> !infon ufw
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> !info ufw
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> tssss
[12:52] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[12:52]  * Twinkletoes comforts MonkeyDust
[12:52] <whiteAfrican> haha
[12:52] <whiteAfrican> doesnt work
[12:52] <whiteAfrican> :S
[12:52] <whiteAfrican> im using uubuntu 10.4
[12:53] <ntr0py> How would  am I supposed to resize a window in Gnome?
[12:55] <emcav> ntr0py: hold your mouse over a corner?
[12:55] <whiteAfrican> so how do i disable smtp
[12:55] <whiteAfrican> i dont need it
[12:56] <shajeershamras> i installed gnome shell...but no changes is there
[12:56] <ntr0py> emcav: yes and clicking while moving the mouse freezes my whole computer
[12:56] <mazda01> wow, how can i change xchat 2.8.6 to stop telling me useless info?
[12:56] <dr_willis> mazda01:  could go radical and try resetting your users settings/history.  (or just renname their .config dir) and see if it goes away
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> or not use xchat
[12:57] <mazda01> dr_willis, will try the .config dir rename trick.
[12:57] <mazda01> MonkeyDust, LOL, you suggest a better IRC client?
[12:57] <mazda01> dr_willis, what's the exact dir name?
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> mazda01  irssi, for one
[12:57] <dr_willis> mazda01:  no idea. somewhere in .config im guessing
[12:57] <phoenix_> does anybody have network radio URL?
[12:57] <mazda01> dr_willis, ok, thank you
[12:57] <alexxander> help, i have no sound!
[12:57] <dr_willis> mazda01:  could be in .gnome* or .gconf* also
[12:57] <mazda01> MonkeyDust, irssi, is that a GUI type client?
[12:58] <mazda01> dr_willis, awesome thanks
[12:58] <dr_willis> Im using weechat these days instead of irssi
[12:58] <mazda01> dr_willis, is that GUI
[12:58] <iceroot> mazda01: irssi is cli-based
[12:58] <mazda01> based IRC client
[12:58] <dr_willis> mazda01:  No. :)
[12:58] <emcav> ntr0py: that shouldn't happen.  i guess you can try alt+space
[12:58] <alexxander> package manager has an error, and when i run apt-get install -f it says i dont have  permission
[12:58] <dr_willis> unless you count a ncurses interface a gui. :)
[12:58] <iceroot> alexxander: sudo
[12:58] <alexxander> sudo?
[12:58] <iceroot> alexxander: sudo apt-get install -f
[12:58] <MonkeyDust> gui's keep telling useless information
[12:58] <iceroot> !sudo | alexxander
[12:58] <mazda01> darn it. lol   either need new sugestion for irc client (gui) OR how to change prefs of xchat to telling useless info
[12:59] <dr_willis> mazda01:  xchat had some decent docs at one time .
[12:59] <dr_willis> what useless info>
[12:59] <Twinkletoes> Although the ubuntu manpages have an entry for pam_auth (for squid) it's not in the repos.  Do I just go ahead and create my own pam file for squid?
[13:00] <alexxander> new message: dpkg was interrupted
[13:00] <ntr0py> emcav: still the same, any attempt to resize a text based window freezes my whole box, not even REISUB helps, i just can cut the power
[13:00] <Sid9_> netplit de ouf
[13:01] <iceroot> alexxander: please post hte complete masssages
[13:04] <alexxander> dpkg was interrupted yoou must manually run "sudo dpkg --Configure -a"  to correct the problem
[13:04] <alexxander> which i've done
[13:04] <alexxander> and it's finished
[13:04] <alexxander> butt there's still the package manageer error icon on the toolbar and no sound
[13:06] <apctr> can anyone tell me how to list files except the one having latest timestamp
[13:06] <isa> hello!
[13:06] <whiteAfrican> hey
[13:06] <dr_willis> what if 2 files have identical timestamps apctr ?
[13:06] <whiteAfrican> i want to change the colour of my ubuntu icons
[13:06] <whiteAfrican> i dont like orange
[13:07] <dr_willis> use a differnt icon theme perhaps?
[13:07] <whiteAfrican> how
[13:07] <whiteAfrican> i mean folder icons
[13:07] <apctr> dr_willis: how can two files have some timestamps?
[13:07] <jutnux> Download something like FaenzaIcons whiteAfrican
[13:07] <whiteAfrican> apt-get install FaenzaIcons
[13:07] <emcav> ntr0py: ctrl+alt+f1 do anything?
[13:07] <whiteAfrican> will that work
[13:07] <RaTTuS|BIG> whiteAfrican http://askubuntu.com/questions/29553/how-can-i-configure-unity may help
[13:07] <apctr> dr_willis: I'm assuming that no files are having identical timestamp.
[13:08] <dr_willis> apctr:  could write a little script that lists them, and uses head or tail to cut off the first line. :)
[13:08] <Nish> hi all. Anyone know which package contains dovecot-auth?
[13:08] <dr_willis> depending on how they are sorted.
[13:08] <phoenix_> whiteAfrican,install faience-icon-theme
[13:08] <dr_willis> apt-cache search theme | grep icon
[13:08] <dr_willis> shows lots of icon themes. :)
[13:08] <whiteAfrican> ok
[13:08] <whiteAfrican> thanks
[13:08] <Pici> Nish: apparmor-profiles: /etc/apparmor.d/usr.lib.dovecot.dovecot-auth
[13:08] <whiteAfrican> all
[13:09] <phoenix_> you can use blue icon
[13:09] <whiteAfrican> hmm
[13:09] <Pici> Nish: If thats not what you're looking for, please provide more context.
[13:09] <ntr0py> emcav: no the kernel is completely frozen i guess
[13:09] <isa> Hi, i would like that somebody help me with installing ubuntu 11.4
[13:09] <dr_willis> Not sure what app you use in 11.10 to set the icon theme these days..
[13:09] <isa> some technical questions
[13:09] <whiteAfrican> boot from cd :D
[13:09] <apctr> dr_willis: I want one command with help of pipe or awk??because i have to give that output to zip to compress those files
[13:09] <whiteAfrican> thats it
[13:10] <Pici> apctr: ls -ltr | head -n-1
[13:10] <isa> and also, is it possible that the tactil mouse is not working because i didn't update the system?
[13:10] <vv> Hi
[13:11] <Pici> apctr: If that doesn't help, try asking in #bash
[13:11] <Nish> pici: I'm trying to set up postfix/dovecot, but the logs complains about dovecot-auth is missing.
[13:11] <vv> "56k faxmodem" is dialup modem or  adsl?
[13:12] <Nish> kan read mail (imap), and recieve mail, but not send mail.
[13:12] <dr_willis> vv:  56k is a term used for dialup modems in the past.
[13:12] <dr_willis> i would suprised at a adsl modem called a '56k faxmodem'
[13:12] <whiteAfrican> why the hell kate is 290mb ?
[13:12] <whiteAfrican> thats a simple text editor..
[13:12] <apctr> Pici: it is not working
[13:12] <jutnux> whiteAfrican: Kate is an IDE.
[13:13] <isa> im not sure if somebody can read me
[13:13] <apctr> Pici: displaying all the files as well as directories
[13:13] <isa> ??
[13:13] <RaTTuS|BIG> isa - 1) back all your data up , 2) insert ubuntu CD or usb, 3) reboot machine , 4) ffollow instructiuons
[13:14] <isa> ok
[13:14] <vv> dr_willis: Thanks a lot
[13:14] <isa> and the other question is
[13:14] <jutnux> Ubuntu is no harder than Windows to install isa.
[13:14] <alexxander> i still have no sound, any ideas? it was working fine until i installed codecs after advice on here.
[13:14] <isa> is it possible that the mouse is not working well because the system ys not upgrade?
[13:14] <alexxander> i've fixed the package manager error now but still no sound.
[13:15] <jutnux> What is wrong with the mouse isa?
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> alexxander  in terminal, type alsamixer, start there
[13:15] <isa> the tactil mouse
[13:15] <alexxander> checked alsa mixer and everything is on 100
[13:15] <isa> sometimes is working sometimes not
[13:15] <jutnux> alexxander: Can you take a screenshot of your alsamixer?
[13:15] <isa> and i don't know if is broken
[13:15] <isa> and then sometimes it does this:[13:15] <isa> all the time
[13:15] <alexxander> done, how do i paste on here?
[13:16] <jutnux> ompldr.orhg
[13:16] <jutnux> ompldr.org @alexxander
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> alexxander  try alsamixer|pastebinit and paste the url here
[13:16] <jutnux> You can pastebin? :o
[13:16] <Pici> !enter| isa
[13:16] <isa> jutnux i already have ubuntu, i just want to upgrade the system
[13:17] <jutnux> Why did I not know of this.
[13:17] <isa> like this
[13:17] <jutnux> isa: Then do a backup of everything (CloneZilla could take an image of your HDD) and back it all up.
[13:17] <jutnux> Then place the disk in and update @isa.
[13:18] <Nish> Bah! F*** it! I'm reinstalling.
[13:19] <alexxander> http://ompldr.org/iYnRiaA
[13:20] <alexxander> done, took a while sorry
[13:20] <CommanderMeat> Hi; I'm a pretty heavy gamer and I installed linux to get a smoother mouse input, But, I'm experiencing some sort of 'input lag' for lack of better terms, And I'm really not sure how to remedy it
[13:20] <jutnux> Unmute the speakers alexxander.
[13:21] <alexxander> they aren't muted, are they? :s
[13:21] <jutnux> Yes.
[13:21] <jutnux> MM = Muted.
[13:21] <alexxander> well, it's telling me they arent
[13:21] <alexxander> when i hit mute/unmute, they go to muted
[13:22] <alexxander> so how do i unmute on alsamixer?
[13:22] <jutnux> Press M
[13:22] <CommanderMeat> (I don't wanna pry, but is this a bad place to ask my question?)
[13:22] <jutnux> !ask | CommanderMeat
[13:22] <dr_willis> CommanderMeat:  you just installed ubuntu/linux to get a better gaming experience?
[13:23] <codingmasters> hello
[13:23] <shajeer> irc.gnome.org:#gnome-shell
[13:23] <CommanderMeat> dr_willis: Yes, But I only play quake2/live, Which both have linux support
[13:23] <alexxander> beautiful. cheers
[13:23]  * codingmasters is testing IRC on his DS
[13:23] <codingmasters> anyone there?
[13:23] <isa> this chat is more difficult that i thought
[13:24] <jutnux> codingmasters: \o
[13:24] <Techdude101> Strange problem, I have 2 ubuntu machines, 1st has a samba share and I mount it on the 2nd machine it changes the uid of the folder
[13:25] <codingmasters> test
[13:25] <Nish> Hmmm... Sometimes it just works, for no apparent reason at all, which i guess is better than never...
[13:26] <shajeer> how i can join another community on irc chat
[13:27] <codingmasters> meow
[13:27] <jutnux> shajeer: /join #channel_name
[13:27] <i_is_broke> shajeer,  try /#channel
[13:28] <codingmasters> testing
[13:29] <djmattyg> lawl
[13:29] <bazhang> !test | codingmasters
[13:29] <conntrack> So be it
[13:30] <naked89tt> How can opera play flash?
[13:31] <naked89tt> How can opera play flash? anyone knows?
[13:31] <iceroot> naked89tt: installing flash
[13:31] <iceroot> naked89tt: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[13:31] <dr_willis> naked89tt:  you mean can it? or how to you make it?
[13:32] <naked89tt> I have installed when I use firefox
[13:32] <naked89tt> but ope
[13:32] <naked89tt> but opera can't work.
[13:33] <dr_willis> just tried it.. working fine for me at youtube
[13:33] <dr_willis> using 11.10
[13:34] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-tweak
[13:34] <dr_willis> oops./ :)
[13:36] <ksx4system> how do I add keyboard shortcuts in 11.10?
[13:37] <akem> hey
[13:37] <e01> ksx4system, system settings -> keyboard -> shortcuts
[13:38] <akem> my sound is totaly messed up i want to restat my driver however it looks like i don't have /etc/init.d/alsa-utils any idea what i should use?
[13:38] <akem> i only have alsa-store and alsa-restore
[13:38] <naked89tt> Anyone uses opera?
[13:38] <ksx4system> e01: I can't add it. right_alt+pause
[13:38] <ksx4system> naked89tt: me
[13:39] <e01> someone that had problems with notifications in indicator-complete (skype is hidden) and is solving?
[13:39] <naked89tt> ksx4system, My opera can't play flash,How can I solve this pro?
[13:40] <BluesKaj> akem, sudo apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils
[13:40] <isa> im doing the backup, but i don't have permission to copy the folder "private"...
[13:40] <i_is_broke> naked89tt, try uninstalling opera and reinstalling. i use to have to do that with flash sometimes.
[13:40] <naked89tt> i_is_broke, ok I'll try
[13:41] <akem> BluesKaj, "alsa-utils is already the newest version."
[13:41] <ksx4system> naked89tt: tell me your Ubuntu version, your Opera version, architecture (32 or 64-bit Ubuntu?) and what is most important - where from have you installed flash?
[13:41] <dr_willis> naked89tt:  how did you install flash?
[13:42] <akem> BluesKaj, but the package have no bin or etc
[13:42] <akem> so maybe it has change since then
[13:42] <naked89tt> dr_willis, I go to 'adobe' and download 'deb' then installed.
[13:43] <dr_willis> naked89tt:  its most likely a better idea to use the  pacakge manager flash installer tool.
[13:43] <i_is_broke> naked89tt, should of used apt-get
[13:43] <dr_willis> thats what i did. and flash in opera is working.
[13:44] <root_wensa> #debian.id
[13:44] <naked89tt> I used apt-get and it said it's lastest version.
[13:44] <qr223> #ubuntu.id
[13:45] <naked89tt> dr_willis, firefox can play flash.
[13:46] <Oliwia> hey
[13:46] <afflicto> Hey all, I have ubuntu 11.10 and I have 3 monitors. they are working great. But it seems all my windows on my left and right monitors are displayed on all virtual desktops? I want all 3 monitors to be duplicated via virtual desktops.
[13:47] <drake01> Hi guys, I want to have linux tty to show the output using one of the pagers instead of just dumping on the tty screen when its more than one screen.. Its a bit annoying.. Any solution??
[13:47] <BluesKaj> akem, open alsamixer in the terminal , make sure the soundcard is listed at the top left
[13:47] <akem> ok restarting pulseaudio did it.
[13:47] <dr_willis> drake01:  for every command ran? not sure thats really possible.
[13:48] <akem> BluesKaj, thanks anyway.
[13:48] <dr_willis> drake01:  screen can give you a scroll-up feature.. actually the console might have one by default without screen
[13:49] <dr_willis> bbl ya all..off to the store
[13:49] <drake01> dr_willis: Not every command but when the output of the command is more than one full screen. Scroll up is still possible using shift+pageup..
[13:50] <ksx4system> well, I literally can't set up custom keyboard shortcuts
[13:50] <qr223> keyboards are cool
[13:50] <ksx4system> whatever I do it always shows as disabled
[13:50] <qr223> i have one
[13:51] <ksx4system> qr223: I have around ten
[13:53] <goudkov> hi, how can i create a user account with a password that can't be matched? in the same way as default root install.
[14:00] <Lufti_oO> hi ;)
[14:03] <Lufti_oO> I'm in the strage LAN of my university. There we have to use vpnc and a socks proxy to use the internet. In windows I can use an app called "Proxifier" to route ALL of the internet access through this socks proxy. Is there a similar way for ubuntu?
[14:04] <Augusto> olá, boa tarde!
[14:04] <Lufti_oO> I know tsocks but I'm tired to have two menu entries for EVERY application: one with and one without tsocks in front of the application command!
[14:05] <Lufti_oO> Any idea?
[14:05] <Augusto> Preciso de informações de como fazer meu linux reconhecer meu monitor
[14:06] <bazhang> !br | Augusto
[14:09] <usr13> I have a friend that just did the last batch of updates and she says not that her Ubuntu LTS system will not stay connected to the wired connection to her DSL router.  Any ideas as to what that could have been?
[14:10] <usr13> She's called me and I don't know what to tell her.  Anyone?
[14:10] <jutnux> usr13: Impossible to tell without being there, especially with a friend.
[14:10] <usr13> jutnux: Yea, I know.
[14:10] <usr13> She is 250mi from me.
[14:11] <jutnux> usr13: tell her to put iwconfig into a terminal and get her to tell you the output
[14:11] <usr13> But she thinks it has to do with the last updates.
[14:11] <usr13> BUT, I think she may have put off updating for a couple months, so....
[14:13] <usr13> (reason I say that is that I had talked to her last week and I told her to see if there were updates pending and there were, after she pulled the trigger on it and rebooted, there have been networking issues.)
[14:14] <usr13> I suppose there is nothing I can do.  At least, not from here.
[14:15] <elb0w> Whats chkconfig in ubuntu?
[14:15] <usr13> elb0w: fsck
[14:15] <usr13> fsck - check and repair a Linux file system
[14:17] <usr13> elb0w: Sorry,   service
[14:17] <Twinkletoes> elb0w: update-rc.d is the equivalent in Ubuntu as standard
[14:17] <Twinkletoes> elb0w: What are you trying to do?
[14:17] <usr13> elb0w: You mean   chkconfig  -  updates  and queries runlevel information for system services ?
[14:17] <silvercat> how do i force x to send video signals to VGA instead of laptop builtin monitor? my laptop screen is broken
[14:17] <usr13> !upstart | elb0w
[14:18] <elb0w> I want to turn off mysql from startup
[14:18] <vic20gmr> do i need to defrag a 10gb partition[fat32] to increase its size using gparted on 11.04 live cd?  its a windows xp partition, i want to make it ~32gb
[14:18] <usr13> elb0w: see man service
[14:18] <usr13> elb0w: You could just uninstall it.
[14:18] <nibbier> usr13, update-rc.d i believe
[14:18] <Twinkletoes> elb0w: As he said, although you *can* instal chkconfig from the repos, if you really want to use it
[14:18] <nibbier> oops was said before ;-) sorry
[14:18] <usr13> nibbier: Yea, you are right.  If  you turn it off with service it will be only for one session.
[14:19] <Twinkletoes> elb0w: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-runlevel-configuration-tool-to-start-service/
[14:19] <elb0w> Twinkletoes: I was more asking what to use in ubuntu
[14:19] <elb0w> chkconfig is the last one I used
[14:19] <Twinkletoes> elb0w: ^^^
[14:19] <nibbier> echo pkill mysql > /etc/rc.local ;-)
[14:20] <Twinkletoes> elb0w: rcconf is the easiest
[14:20] <usr13> nibbier: Yes, that would do the trick
[14:20] <elb0w> Twinkletoes: I honestly dont need anything past disabling mysqld could you possibly give me that command
[14:20] <MrPumpkincitis> when writing the path is there a space after /    e.g.      usr/ Desktop/   OR    usr/Desktop
[14:20] <elb0w> I would appreciate it
[14:21] <usr13> nibbier: May be a bit subversive but ....
[14:21] <microm> Java is no longer working in firefox
[14:21] <usr13> elb0w: Why do you want to stop mysql from running?
[14:21] <elb0w> Twinkletoes: nvm read that site
[14:21] <theadmin> MrPumpkincitis: There normally are no spaces after slashes unless it's a part of the name
[14:21] <elb0w> usr13: we moved servers
[14:21] <elb0w> usr13: want to make sure no processes were missed
[14:21] <vic20gmr> do i need to defrag a 10gb partition[fat32] to increase its size using gparted on 11.04 live cd?  its a windows xp partition, i want to make it ~32gb
[14:21] <MrPumpkincitis> theadmin:thanks
[14:21] <usr13> elb0w: Maybe just uninstall it?
[14:22] <Twinkletoes> elb0w: update-rc.d mysqld disable
[14:22] <elb0w> usr13: why would I want to uninstall something I may want later?
[14:22] <elb0w> Twinkletoes: ty
[14:22] <Twinkletoes> elb0w: update-rc.d --help        is a good start though :)
[14:22] <theadmin> MrPumpkincitis: Also, a space is $IFS by default (i.e. Internal Field Separator), that means if a space is a part of a folder/file name you must enclose the name in quotes, like "a b c" or 'a b c'
[14:23] <usr13> elb0w: or   man update-rc.d
[14:26] <usr13> elb0w: In answer to your last question:  Why not just uninstall it now and just re-install it later on if you decide you want to use it again?
[14:27] <elb0w> its not neccesary
[14:27] <usr13> my point exactly... if it is not necessary and not being used, uninstall it.
[14:27] <elb0w> usr13: why are you arguing that point lmao
[14:28] <elb0w> Why need to store a mysqldump or the structure or any residual data vs disabling it from starting up?
[14:28] <usr13> elb0w: Just answering your question.
[14:28] <elb0w> I never asked if I should uninstall mysql
[14:29] <usr13> elb0w: Ok, well you've been told how to dissable it, (and I don't understand  your last question), so enough on that subject.
[14:30] <elb0w> lol, I love how you turned your bad thought around on me asking a simple question. Kinda confused but thanks anyway
[14:30] <usr13> elb0w: Sorry I confused you.
[14:31] <buscon> hi, I'm writing a script to execute some commands on a remote machine
[14:32] <buscon> I need to execute some commands as root, so I'm connecting with my normal user and using sudo
[14:32] <fidel> hi
[14:32] <buscon> now I'm looking a way to prevent sudo to ask me the pass for every command that I run
[14:32] <buscon> how can I do that
[14:32] <buscon> ?
[14:32] <fidel> how can i prevent the unity launcher from hiding ?
[14:33] <elb0w> buscon: you would have to connect as root which I wouldnt do
[14:33] <fidel> i expected it should work via compizconfig
[14:33] <elb0w> buscon: what language?
[14:33] <fidel> compizConfig Settings Manager
[14:33] <deej1976> !ccsm | fidel
[14:33] <buscon> elb0w, exactly, that's not a good idea, the sysadmin is of the same idea ;)
[14:33] <buscon> elb0w, bash
[14:33] <theadmin> buscon: err, well...
[14:34] <deej1976> !sudo | buscon
[14:34] <theadmin> buscon: EDITOR=your_favorite_cli_text_editor_eg_nano_or_vim sudo visudo # Edit the file, add something like this at the end: your_username ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[14:35] <fidel> deej1976: i do have compiz-config settings manager installed - unity plugin enabled
[14:35] <fidel> but it doenst seem to work
[14:35] <fidel> that **** launcher/dock still autohides
[14:35] <fidel> hide launcher: never is supposed to be the correct setting right?
[14:35] <usr13> buscon: You would need to edit the sudoers file (visudo) but we don't recommend doing it.  Not haveing to use a password for admin privileges is a breach of security.
[14:36] <buscon> usr13, ok, I know but I need to execute some commands and to check if they worked
[14:37] <deej1976> fidel: So in CCSM, ubuntu unity plugin, Behaviour, Hide Launcher - Never ?
[14:37] <buscon> on the other side I cannot enter the pass for every command...
[14:37] <fidel> deej1976: yes that what i tried already
[14:37] <usr13> buscon: Start a super-user session
[14:37] <fidel> it still hides
[14:37] <usr13> buscon: sudo su -
[14:37] <fidel> do i need to relogin to make that setting active? i doubt that
[14:37] <buscon> usr13, do u mean root ?
[14:37] <deej1976> fidel: Close the CCSM ?
[14:37] <fidel> i did already
[14:37] <buscon> that's remotely
[14:37] <usr13> buscon: Yes.
[14:38] <buscon> that's not on my machine, I'm executing some commands remotely
[14:38] <usr13> so....?
[14:38] <fidel> deej1976: well seems to be broken here - is there a way to completly disable the launcher then?
[14:38] <deej1976> fidel: It works here and on an a laptop
[14:38] <usr13> buscon: Through a ssh session?
[14:38] <deej1976> fidel: Sorry I don't know
[14:38] <buscon> usr13, the sysadmin doesn't want me to open an ssh session with root
[14:38] <fidel> k- thanks anyway
[14:39] <usr13> buscon: DO these commands require admin priviledges?
[14:39] <fidel> seems like i have to move to xfce/gnome-shell or something different then
[14:39] <fidel> thanks once again
[14:39] <buscon> usr13, yes
[14:39] <theadmin> buscon: "sudo -i" will grant you a root shell.
[14:39] <usr13> why not just give the password?
[14:40] <usr13> buscon: Or yes,  sudo -i
[14:40] <buscon> usr13, because I have plenty of commands to run...
[14:40] <elb0w> whats the difference between sudo -i and -s?
[14:40] <usr13> I'm sure the sysadmin wouldn't want you to change sudoers so that no password is needed.
[14:41] <llutz> elb0w:  -i (simulate initial login)  -s (just a shell)
[14:41] <usr13> buscon: But it's up to you.  We have given you adequate information.
[14:41] <Pumpkin-> elb0w: subtle things related to getting a brand new environment, or inheriting bits of your current one.
[14:41] <buscon> usr13, definitively, thanks
[14:41] <elb0w> Pumpkin-: ah figured ok thanks
[14:41] <buscon> theadmin, thanks too
[14:42] <theadmin> elb0w: What they said.Generally, you never want -s.
[14:42] <elb0w> theadmin: if im just editing files I like s so I get all my vim config
[14:42] <Pumpkin-> I pretty much only use -s if I'm doing something odd, like running some lump of crap installer that needs X and root (hi Oracle !).
[14:43] <theadmin> Pumpkin-: gksu?
[14:43] <jutnux> gksudo*
[14:43] <jutnux> Wasn't gksu removed?
[14:43] <elb0w> But if you dont normally use root and have your JAVA_HOME and such set in your own user config why not sudo -s?
[14:43] <theadmin> jutnux: Same stuff on Ubuntu by default
[14:43] <jutnux> Oh right, my bad. I thought it had been removed.
[14:44] <goddard> my server keeps booting my out of my ssh session after i login I get "Connection to 1.1.1.1 closed."
[14:44] <Pumpkin-> nah, I knew about gksudo, but it doesn't work with this oracle rubbish. sudo -s does however, so I'm sticking with what I know works if I've got to use this horrible stuff :).
[14:44] <theadmin> Pumpkin-: Crazy installer they haz
[14:45] <fidel> deej1976: the problem i didnt realize in the first place - it was unity-2d
[14:45] <fidel> and in that case the ccsm settings dont work
[14:45] <fidel> it works via dconf
[14:45] <usr13> looks like the only difference in -i  and  -s  is the working directory is changed, or not changed.
[14:46] <theadmin> usr13: No, not really, check all the environment variables, some of them end up changing
[14:46] <deej1976> fidel: Thanks for the information
[14:46] <usr13> Looks to me like su -i  is equivilent to:  sudo su -    and sudo -s   is equivilent to: sudo su
[14:47] <usr13> theadmin: Yea probably a difference of environment variables, but the use has mostly same.
[14:47] <usr13> *user
[14:48] <usr13> But   sudo -i   is the recommended method, (and fewer keystrokes).
[14:48] <cldwalker> hi all, does anyone know of any repositories where I could get poppler-utils 0.18.x on lucid?
[14:48] <cldwalker> googling is returning nothing :(
[14:48] <Ethek> How might I rebuild a missing home directory from a root prompt?
[14:48] <jutnux> Why not compile from source cldwalker?
[14:49] <theadmin> Ethek: "rebuild a missing home directory"?
[14:49] <ikonia> because that is a bad idea
[14:49] <theadmin> Ethek: You mean, you accidentally removed a home folder of some user and want the basics of it back?
[14:49] <Ethek> correct. Deja-dup doesnt seem to restore properly without at least the basic structure
[14:50] <isoman2kx> eh hehehehe
[14:50] <cldwalker> jutnux: i've been trying to avoid compiling anything directly on the production box and have apt-* handle it
[14:51] <theadmin> Ethek: sudo mkdir /home/whoever && sudo install -t /home/whoever/ /etc/skel/* -g whoevers_group -o whoever
[14:51] <theadmin> Ethek: That's the basic idea
[14:52] <usr13> theadmin: Is there a command or a way to test difference in enviornment variables?
[14:52] <theadmin> usr13: "export" should list all current environment vars
[14:52] <Ethek> theadmin: thanks, I'll try that
[14:57] <silvercat> my integrated laptop display is broken. how can i force ubuntu to boot into VGA instead of LVDS?
[14:57] <diverdude> How can i edit metadata in jpg files?
[14:57] <fidel> silvercat: ignoring your question but: considered replacing the screen - depending on the hw it might be pretty easy - did that with an eeepc some days ago
[14:58] <fidel> silvercat: ignoring your question but: considered replacing the screen? - depending on the hw it might be pretty easy - did that with an eeepc some days ago
[14:58] <theadmin> fidel: You know, most laptops are hard to fiddle with (not as hard as phones/tablets, of course, lol)
[14:59] <fidel> theadmin: it depends on the model yes - but in case of the eeepc (laptop) it was easier then expected
[14:59] <silvercat> fidel: well yeah kinda, it's a full HD 16" screen, dual lamp and all. wanted to use this computer as a media center whenever i get around of buying a TV with HDMI, so don't want to put a lot of money into it
[14:59] <fidel> k
[15:01] <usr13> silvercat: YOu could put an xrandr command in /etc/rc.local
[15:02] <usr13> silvercat: Well, it would probably need to be run as user, not root.... I think.
[15:02] <theadmin> usr13: That doesn't even make sense, those are executed before X even starts and xrandr needs x...
[15:02] <usr13> theadmin: Yea it needs to be done in user space too.
[15:02] <usr13> right?
[15:02]  * theadmin is /away
[15:03] <theadmin> (NOT an automated away message, just saying so nobody bothers me)
[15:03] <silvercat> usr13: i tried invoking an xrandr-command in x but it claims it didn't detect anything on the vga..
[15:03] <usr13> silvercat: man xrandr
[15:03] <silvercat> usr13: however the nvidia-settings-application does detect my monityor
[15:04] <usr13> silvercat: Oh  yea, that is a separate problem.
[15:04] <CarlFK> silvercat: you have a vga monitor plugged in?  I am thinking there is a bios settting to make that the primary/main/only display
[15:04] <gwelter> silvercat: you can use the video kernel parameter for disabling/enabling outputs
[15:04] <usr13> silvercat: You will also need to specify proper screen size
[15:04] <gwelter> silvercat: http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/KernelModeSetting
[15:04] <silvercat> CarlFK: my laptop bios is kinda limited, its not there
[15:05] <CarlFK> silvercat: grumble :)
[15:05] <Kaapa> hey there - I'm trying to use skype with usb headset. Skype reports that it's using pulseaudio as the only option. How do I tell pulseaudio to use the usb for skype?
[15:05] <usr13> silvercat: CarlFK has a good idea, look for display settings in bios
[15:05] <silvercat> usr13: it's not there.
[15:05] <usr13> o
[15:05] <gwelter> silvercat: but i think you need to use nouveau instead of the blob for it to work
[15:06] <tomodach1> has aonyone any POSITIV experience with nvidia 9400GT and nouveau? for me i just get random hangs on two different computers
[15:06] <CarlFK> you need to use nouveau to bring peace and happyness to the world :)
[15:06] <silvercat> gwelter: hm, everywhere i read says i should use the binary instead of nouveau :P for hardware acceleration and 3d and whatnot
[15:07] <tomodach1> silvercat: actually if you dont play games its quite nice , felt even smoother in unity, untill it just stopped working for me.
[15:07] <gwelter> silvercat: yeah, that's a problem :)
[15:07] <tomodach1> silvercat: integratinon with the desktop was nicer, you connect a screen it automatically pops up and sets the right resolution etc.
[15:07] <CarlFK> I have been using nouveau for over a year - works fine for whatever I do
[15:08] <usr13> silvercat: I wonder if it would make a difference if you switch to open-source video driver?
[15:08] <ichbinder> hello channel. How can I add words to the default dictionary? I'm writing a thesis in latex using Texmaker and it does automatic spellchecking. The selected dictionary is /usr/share/myspell/dicts/en-US.dic How can I add a word to that dictionary? It's not a texmaker specific question, rather about these default dictionaries in Ubuntu, in general. Thanks for taking the time to read this!
[15:08] <CarlFK> tomodach1: I have nVidia Corporation G96M [Quadro FX 770M]
[15:09] <tomodach1> CarlFK: give it a shot
[15:09] <usr13> ichbinder: Isn't there an option for adding the word when it tries to correct it?
[15:09] <tomodach1> CarlFK: worst case, switch back to the binary
[15:09] <silvercat> I'll give it a shot.
[15:09] <CarlFK> tomodach1: um.. you dialied the wrong nick ;)
[15:09] <silvercat> installing noveau that is
[15:09] <ichbinder> usr13: not really...
[15:10] <ichbinder> i can right-click and there are a bunch of recommended words
[15:10] <tomodach1> CarlFK: you started!
[15:10] <tomodach1> :=)
[15:11] <CarlFK> tomodach1: wern't you looking for positive reports?
[15:11] <amukherjee> does anyone have a way to disable the emacs bindings in firefox text boxes? I've tried changing it in gconftool but it doesn't seem to stick/
[15:12] <tomodach1> CarlFK: ah , well more about positiv as in using my card and finding a fix.
[15:12] <CarlFK> tomodach1: ah, sorry, no help here.
[15:12] <ichbinder> hm, I can also click on "Ckeck Spelling Selection" and that has an option saying "Always Ignore"... not the same as "adding" it to the dictionary, is it? If I click "Always Ignore" it also does not remove the red wave underneath the word. So it is still considered wrong...
[15:13] <devsys> Hi all, quick question about using apt-get... I seem to be having a problem installing the vsftpd package. It isn't a issue where it is just failing to build, it does not even download, and I get a "Warning: The following packages could not be autheticated" for the update-inetd package. Here is the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/775375/
[15:13] <alishah> hi, how to install java on ubuntu 11.10
[15:13] <alishah> do i have to manually install it from java's website
[15:13] <alishah> ?
[15:14] <ichbinder> alishah: http://askubuntu.com/questions/52154/how-do-i-install-the-latest-version-of-sun-java
[15:14] <ichbinder> google helps.
[15:14] <usr13> ichbinder: In other words, if you put the words in a text file and then run ispell against it.
[15:14] <devsys> I think you need to do a sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[15:14] <devsys> alishah:
[15:14] <RaTTuS|BIG> !java
[15:14] <usr13> ichbinder: "A line starting with '*' tells ispell to insert the word into the"
[15:14] <usr13> ichbinder: "A line starting with '*' tells ispell to insert the word into the user's dictionary"
[15:15] <AaronCampbell> Is there a package I can set up that would let you right click on images in nautilus to resize them?
[15:15] <ichbinder> devsys: http://mobile.freecode.com/articles/ubuntu-new-vsftpd-packages-fix-security-vulnerabilities-2 maybe that's the reason?
[15:16] <silvercat> "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/nouveau" gives 404 error when updating :o
[15:16] <ichbinder> AaronCampbell: nautilus-image-converter
[15:16] <devsys> ichbinder: good info. I'll manually download that package
[15:16] <ichbinder> usr13: I'm gonna try that.... complex. Thanks. :)
[15:16] <AaronCampbell> ichbinder: Thanks...I'll go look
[15:16] <devsys> still not sure why the repo is broke
[15:17] <ichbinder> devsys: no idea if that's really your problem, but maybe it helps... :)
[15:17] <ichbinder> AaronCampbell: np! :)
[15:17] <devsys> Well they have a package available on security.ubuntu.com
[15:17] <usr13> ichbinder: xorg-edgers/nouveau is not a good URL
[15:17] <devsys> But im not sure why it wouldnt be in the normal repo
[15:19] <ichbinder> devsys: no idea... it's funny anyways, that the "Very secure" ftp daemon with that particular motivation has a major security issue... :D
[15:19] <ichbinder> usr13: is that related to ispell?
[15:19] <ichbinder> usr13: or was that intendet for somebody else?
[15:20] <devsys> ichbinder: yeah I *HATE* ftp servers but I am being forced to install it
[15:20] <ichbinder> devsys: :)
[15:22] <devsys> ls /etc/apt
[15:23] <gaafar> hi
[15:23] <gaafar> welcome
[15:24] <gaafar> hi this is a test
[15:24] <gaafar> enjoy the music
[15:26] <ichbinder> usr13: it seems like ispell is not even installed...
[15:26] <AaronCampbell> ichbinder: I installed nautilus-image-converter but I don't have a "resize images" in the context menu
[15:26] <ichbinder> AaronCampbell: have you logged out and logged back in again?
[15:27] <AaronCampbell> ichbinder: no, I just closed all nautilus windows
[15:27] <ichbinder> AaronCampbell: nautilus is sometimes not so easy to kill, at least for me it wasn't... just give it a try. :)
[15:27] <AaronCampbell> ok
[15:32] <mohammad> hi
[15:32] <jutnux> Hello.
[15:33] <Guest48899> i am new here
[15:33] <Guest48899> !
[15:35] <html> hi
[15:37] <ichbinder> seems like AaronCampbell is not coming back...
[15:40] <e1ven> Is there a place I can get a list of back ported Kernel patches? I know the ubuntu versions aren't stock, and often include back ports, but I can't seem to find a list anywhere.
[15:41] <sanderlt> how to change unity to gnome in xrdp???
[15:41] <jutnux> !unity
[15:41] <jutnux> !notunity | sanderlt
[15:41] <sanderlt> cheers
[15:46] <devsys> hey all I have ubuntu 9.10 server (karmic) which will not update because I believe they shut down the repo... is there a way to do a dist-upgrade on this?
[15:46] <josip> hello, what was the command to make a process use only 1 core?
[15:47] <ManDay> By which command (I assume "stop <SOMETHING>") can I terminate X?
[15:48] <devsys> kill ManDay
[15:48] <ljuspunkt> josip: do you mean taskset
[15:48] <ManDay> devsys: I don't think so.
[15:48] <slakcphil> ManDay, kill -15 <pid>
[15:49] <slakcphil> or -9
[15:49] <ManDay> slakcphil: I still don't think so.
[15:49] <devsys> ManDay: find your pid using ps
[15:49] <slakcphil> man kill
[15:49] <gwelter> ManDay: 'killall X' works for me
[15:49] <samba35> how to add time in grub /how to change default boot time of grub ?
[15:49] <ManDay> gwelter: Yes, I'm sure it "works". BUt I'm sure it's not the proper way.
[15:49] <ManDay> Upstart exists for a reason.
[15:50] <gwelter> ManDay: do you mean a X session without a window manager?
[15:50] <ManDay> I mean a complete X session with everything. In fact, I mean the X session as I get it on the LiveCD
[15:50] <slakcphil> how to make ubuntu 10.04 use the old boot screen from 8.04? the one that says ubuntu with like a silver background and has the bigger orange status bar?
[15:51] <slakcphil> and the old sound to login?
[15:51] <Scarra3> I am having trouble deciding if I should stay with ubuntu or move back to windows
[15:51] <slakcphil> Scarra3
[15:51] <slakcphil> why
[15:51] <gwelter> ManDay: what are you trying to accomplish?
[15:51] <why> slakcphil: ?
[15:51] <ManDay> gwelter: Terminate X and friends for the sake of freeing memory
[15:51] <slakcphil> why, accident...
[15:52] <slakcphil> Scarra3, why?
[15:52] <vic20gmr> do i need to defrag a 10gb partition[fat32] to increase its size using gparted on 11.04 live cd?  its a windows xp partition, i want to make it ~32gb
[15:52] <gwelter> ManDay: switching to runlevel 3?
[15:52] <Scarra3> slakcphil: I am running into some hardware compatability problems and can not seem to find support for it
[15:52] <ManDay> gwelter: Was that an answer or a question?
[15:53] <slakcphil> Scarra3 what type of hardware?
[15:53] <ManDay> And if former: How sure are you?
[15:53] <gwelter> ManDay: answer :)
[15:53] <slakcphil> Scarra3, personal or commercial use?
[15:53] <ManDay> That would be the command    "initctl 3", right?
[15:53] <gwelter> ManDay: runlevel 3 is multiuser without X
[15:53] <gwelter> ManDay: init 3
[15:53] <jutnux> Scarra3: What is the problem?
[15:53] <Pici> !runlevels | gwelter ManDay
[15:53] <ManDay> gwelter: Do I have to be afraid of casper doing crazy things?
[15:54] <gwelter> ManDay: try it out. I haven't tried it on a livecd
[15:54] <ManDay> gwelter: Well, it didn't work. I ran "init 3". Nothing happend.
[15:54] <vic20gmr> is there a better place to asl about gparted than here?  i plan on using the version included with ubuntu 11.04, i didnt see an obvious gparted channel in list
[15:54] <ManDay> Is there no Job that I could stop with the "stop" command?
[15:55] <gwelter> ManDay: with admin privileges?
[15:55] <vic20gmr> i meant ask, not 'asl'
[15:55] <ManDay> Yes
[15:55] <gwelter> ManDay: try stop gdm, but I'm not sure it unloads X
[15:55] <ManDay> you meant lightdm?
[15:55] <ManDay> There is no GDM in oneiric
[15:55] <gwelter> ManDay: yeah right, that's the new manager
[15:56] <ManDay> Seems to have worked, at least X is gone.
[15:56] <gwelter> ManDay: i deal with too much RHEL systems :)
[15:56] <ManDay> And memory became free, too. Thanks
[15:56] <gwelter> ManDay: np
[15:57] <supuers> Anyone have any ides for a good ide for c#
[15:57] <jpds> supuers: MonoDevelop?
[15:57] <RaTTuS|BIG> vi
[15:57] <gwelter> ManDay: if you want a memory stricken pc to run without X, you can let is start in runlevel 3 so it never starts X
[15:57] <ManDay> geany :P
[15:57] <supuers> yes
[15:58] <ManDay> gwelter: Hm yeah, but I guess I'm good for now.
[15:58] <leftist> what is the command for graphic nautilus? i forget
[15:58] <jutnux> gksudo nautilus
[15:58] <vic20gmr> leftist i think u just tye nautilus
[15:58] <devsys> hey all I have ubuntu 9.10 server (karmic) which will not update because I believe they discontinued updates, and I get 404 errors when using apt-get... is there a way to do a dist-upgrade on this?
[15:58] <ManDay> Bonus Question: What happens if I move 2 GB from a 2GB tmpfs to another 2GB tmpfs if I only got 500 megs of free memory. Will it start swapping?
[15:58] <nick55556> HELP MEEEEEeeeee....
[15:59] <Pici> devsys: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[15:59] <leftist> yeah
[15:59] <webnet> nick55556 | !ask
[15:59] <jutnux> !ask | nick55556
[15:59] <leftist> thanks
[15:59] <devsys> ty Pici
[15:59] <leftist> i thought it was something else but it worked
[15:59] <david_j_r> 11.10 Live CD issue: just hangs! Any advice/pointers?
[15:59] <gwelter> ManDay: yes, i would think so
[15:59] <jutnux> david_j_r: Check the checksum of the CD, retry the installation, make a new CD.
[15:59] <jutnux> In no particular order.
[15:59] <webnet> jutnux, thank you. haha. i always put the !ask and the uname backwards. lmao
[16:00] <nick55556> how to let the terminal use a proxy setting ?
[16:00] <nick55556> apt-get is not working
[16:00] <nick55556> ubuntu 11.04
[16:00] <webnet> nick55556, what makes you think you need a proxy to fix it?
[16:00] <david_j_r> jutnux: CD fine - have used it before
[16:00] <nick55556> webnet and how to fix it ?
[16:00] <nick55556> update also not working
[16:00] <jutnux> nick55556: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto#Setting_up_apt-get_to_use_a_http-proxy
[16:00] <david_j_r> just hangs now when it gets to the "Try Ubunut" / "Install Ubuntu" stage
[16:00] <nick55556> synaptic can go thru a proxy so it works
[16:01] <jutnux> david_j_r: How long have you given it?
[16:01] <david_j_r> 5 mins? +? And no CD or HD action.
[16:01] <supuers> either a corrupted cd or video card
[16:01] <RaTTuS|BIG> nick55556 sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[16:02] <nick55556> export http_proxy=http://yourproxyaddress:proxyport how this works ?
[16:03] <nick55556> ok i found it
[16:03] <webnet> nick55556, yes thats how irt works
[16:03] <nick55556> thanks
[16:03] <nick55556> yeah but what if i want it to to go throw socks 4 or 5 ?
[16:03] <nick55556> what about https ?
[16:04] <webnet> insert https into the address
[16:04] <webnet> instead of http
[16:04] <nick55556> yeah ok
[16:04] <nick55556> thanks for the straigh answer
[16:04] <supuers> Anyone have any ides for a good ide for c#
[16:04] <webnet> np nick55556
[16:04] <RaTTuS|BIG> !ot supuers
[16:04] <RaTTuS|BIG> !ot | supuers
[16:05] <webnet> supuers r u on ubuntu or win?
[16:05] <supuers> okay
[16:05] <webnet> it is off topic but i may be able to give you a simple answer
[16:05] <ManDay> gwelter: confirmed.
[16:05] <supuers> what is that
[16:06] <webnet> supuers, try monodevelop
[16:07] <webnet> http://monodevelop.com/
[16:07] <webnet> its free and works for windows AND linux
[16:07] <supuers> thanks a million
[16:07] <webnet> np :)
[16:08] <agus_sintang> http://ompldr.org/vYnRnNw <<-- what's wrong?
[16:08] <usr13> hummmmm .,... THAT'S what people come here for.    Free stuff.
[16:09] <Scarra3> jutnux:  Well its my video card I have an integrated one and one in the PCI slot I install ubuntu and the boot screen is all choppy, its mainly black but the top has multiple colors then I install the restricted drivers and then there is a purple boot screen but no the ubuntu name with the loading bar than later on the word with the loading bar shows up on a later reboot but its really big and pixilated
[16:09] <sskalnik> Where are manpages typically stored?
[16:09] <webnet> usr13, were you referring to my answer to supuers?
[16:10] <Scarra3> jutnux: I can't disable the integrated one in the bios because there is no choice for it
[16:10] <usr13> .... just  sarcastic humor .....
[16:11] <usr13> sorry, couldn't resist
[16:11] <niftylettuce_> anyone care to figure out why this dbus stuff doesn't work with ubuntu 11.04+? https://github.com/pilt/spotify
[16:11] <usr13> agus_sintang: Not sure what is wrong.  Can you give us another hint?
[16:11] <Scarra3> Any Ideas?
[16:12] <Leon_Nardella> When I try to build gcc on 11.10, it can't find stub-32.h. It searches in /usr/include/gnu/, but in 11.10 the file is in /usr/include/i386-linux-gnu/gnu. How can I pass the correct path to the build scripts?
[16:12] <agus_sintang> have you seen that picture? usr13 :)
[16:13] <einseenai> guys, when my linux box has 2 active connections - wifi and usbmodem one - which one programs like browser will use?
[16:13] <Dl145> Hello, I've installed Ubuntu Server 10.04 LTS on a DL145 Server from an USB stick, the installation process goes through fine, but now when I try and boot, it just shows BIOS info etc etc and then gets to a black screen with a blinking cursor.
[16:14] <usr13> niftylettuce_: Did you put spotify.pl, spotify_playing.sh in ~/.irssi/scripts ?
[16:14] <usr13> niftylettuce_: Did you put spotify.pl and spotify_playing.sh in ~/.irssi/scripts ?
[16:14] <webnet> usr13, gotcha. i didnt mean it like that when i said it was free. lol. i just meant as a comparison to microsoft visual studio which is the "recommended" ide for c# which you need to sell your kidneys and put a 2nd and 3rd mortgage on your house to afford... lol.
[16:14] <usr13> webnet: Yea, I know....
[16:15] <sskalnik> Dl145:  If you use Ctrl + F2, do you get a terminal?
[16:15] <webnet> :D
[16:15] <webnet> sskalnik, yes.
[16:15] <usr13> webnet: My point exactly ....   :D
[16:15] <webnet> usr13, haha :D
[16:15] <einseenai> guys, if my linux box has 2 active internet connections, which one will be used?
[16:16] <rex1980> my screen is trembeling!!HELPPPPPPP
[16:16] <usr13> webnet: Ubuntu = Lots of free open-source software.
[16:16] <insectatorious> list
[16:16] <ikonia> insectatorious: no lists here
[16:16] <theadmin> einseenai: Depends on how will you set routing up.
[16:16] <Dl145> sskalnik: no i dont.. I suspect there is a problem with grub, pressing shift during startup doesnt do anything either
[16:16] <webnet> usr13, Exactly! thats what i love, and if i truly like software and use it ALOT i will usually donate to the devs once in a while
[16:17] <usr13> webnet: Very commendable of you.
[16:17] <webnet> :)
[16:17] <webnet> devs need food too. lol
[16:17] <theadmin> Oh that reminds me, I gotta donate to Arch now that they accept donations again.
[16:17] <shai28> Hello, I would like to copy file to existing folder and I would like the copy action to override files without asking me?
[16:18] <theadmin> shai28: cp -f file /your/folder/
[16:18] <usr13> (I have too, not as often as I should tho...)
[16:18] <einseenai> theadmin, thanks a lot. and if i don't set up anything at all? and how would i set it up? can i make some programs use one or another?
[16:18] <theadmin> einseenai: man route
[16:18] <theadmin> einseenai: And, eh, if you don't set it up I doubt it will even work... Not so sure on this one.
[16:18] <theadmin> einseenai: I never had tried two active connections, that's messy, really.
[16:19] <glebaron> I have a dumb question about smb mounts. When I mount an smb share, it shows up on my desktop and I can browse it with nautilus. Where is it mounted in the filesystem and how can I browse it from the shell?
[16:19] <rex1980> screen tremble??????
[16:19] <usr13> good to see there are plenty of donation-minded folks here  :)
[16:19] <yeehaw> glebaron: /mnt/ ?
[16:19] <theadmin> glebaron: Ctrl+L in the nautilus window where it's opened, you'll see the location
[16:19] <untermensch> I'm running in tty1, (no x server). and i can't access my external hard drive. do i need to mount it first? if so how?
[16:19] <theadmin> yeehaw: No, /mnt is never touched by graphical utilities.
[16:19] <theadmin> untermensch: man mount
[16:19] <yeehaw> theadmin: Did not know that, always use a command line mount :P
[16:20] <untermensch> theadmin: will mounting it fix the problem?
[16:20] <iceowl> glebaron: open a terminal and type "mount", and you'll get a list of everything that's mounted and where
[16:20] <rex1980> o
[16:20] <theadmin> untermensch: Yeah, likely
[16:20] <untermensch> then i shall return
[16:20] <einseenai> theadmin, thx. the thing is just i now have 2 connection, wifi connection doesn't allow me to use irc ports, but usb one - does, that's why i'm here. that's what caused my question. usb connection was the second i estblished.
[16:21] <glebaron> yeehaw, nope.
[16:21] <theadmin> einseenai: "USB connection"? As in a USB modem? Gross.
[16:21] <einseenai> theadmin, yes, usb modem i mean :)
[16:22] <sskalnik> Dl145:  Checked the install image and HDD for errors? Also, if you boot to a live environment, what can you determine about the installed OS?
[16:25] <theadmin> einseenai: Still, I honestly have never used multiple connections, so I can't help, sorry.
[16:26] <untermensch> theadmin: how do i mount an external drive?
[16:26] <theadmin> untermensch: sudo fdisk -l, determine which partition you want
[16:27] <einseenai> theadmin, thanks anyway. :) i now know i have to see ip route. just wanted to understand mechanism behind it.
[16:27] <untermensch> theadmin: that does not seem helpful
[16:27] <usr13> untermensch: sudo mkdir /mnt/usb-drive ; sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/usb-drive
[16:27] <usr13> untermensch: Just an example
[16:27] <theadmin> untermensch: ...why are you running via CLI if you don't even know such very simple things?
[16:27] <jutnux> man mount
[16:27] <jutnux> ;-)
[16:27] <usr13> untermensch: You could add a line to /etc/fstab  ....
[16:27] <nathanael> Can anyone walk me through setting up Ubuntu for SSH connections?
[16:27] <theadmin> jutnux: Told him/her that already
[16:27] <untermensch> theadmin: xserver fucked up. i'm just trying to back up my shit so i can do a fresh install.
[16:28] <theadmin> untermensch: LiveCD can do that -_-
[16:28] <jutnux> alternatively remove xserver?
[16:28] <why> LiveUSB is faster
[16:28] <mneptok> untermensch: can you do it without profanity?
[16:28] <theadmin> untermensch: Don't mess with CLI unless you know how
[16:28] <usr13> nathanael: sudo apt-get openssh-server
[16:28] <jutnux> LiveUSB <3
[16:28] <untermensch> if i had a livecd yeah that'd be the solution
[16:28] <theadmin> jutnux: Or that :D
[16:28] <why> untermensch: contact your local LUG
[16:28] <theadmin> untermensch: Okay, well, let's see... Do you seem to have network access? ping google.com, please.
[16:28] <untermensch> yeah i have networking
[16:29] <nathanael> usr13: I have that, wondered if there was any configuration needed :)
[16:29] <usr13> nathanael: Nope, that's it
[16:29] <nathanael> user13: thanks :)
[16:29] <theadmin> untermensch: Okay, please "sudo apt-get install pastebinit", we're going to need that one
[16:31] <cconstantine> everytime I open a gnome-terminal the menubar is on, but I have it disabled in my default session.  Oddly enough the 'view' menu indicates that it is disabled, and I have to 'enable' it to disable it.  Is this a known bug?
[16:31] <niftylettuce_> usr13: where is that .pl and .sh stored?
[16:31] <Dl145> sskalnik: yes, the md5 sum is correct.. so is the hdd..
[16:31] <untermensch> everytime i try to mount it it says it isn't a block device. what be ze issue?
[16:31] <mneptok> cconstantine: you want to be looking around on Launchpad, not on IRC ;)
[16:31] <theadmin> cconstantine: I haven't heard of that before, so please "ubuntu-bug gnome-terminal"
[16:32] <niftylettuce_> usr13: nvm
[16:32] <karthick87> i have 250 GB of harddisk & 1 GB of Ram. Can anyone give me the partition schema for installing ubuntu? Like boot = ? Swap = ? Root = ?
[16:32] <theadmin> cconstantine: And indeed, what mneptok said.
[16:32] <cconstantine> mneptok, I'm not using launcher
[16:32] <usr13> theadmin: You should ask if he wants to mount it peramently, or just for one session.
[16:32] <mneptok> !launchpad > cconstantine
[16:32] <cconstantine> theadmin, that's a google query I'm guessing
[16:32] <theadmin> karthick87: /boot - 2G or so, swap = 2G, root = 30G, rest for home. Should be fine.
[16:32] <why> karthick87: boot = 100 - 250 MB, Swap = 2GB
[16:32] <why> karthick87: root 20 - 40gb, rest for home
[16:32] <theadmin> why: With Ubuntu that much for boot is never enough, it doesn't autoremove old kernels
[16:33] <cconstantine> mneptok, ah, sorry.  I was thought the ubuntu unity stuff was called launcher
[16:33] <why> theadmin: true :\ I should have accounted for that
[16:33] <nick55556> sometimes linux is like a bad nightmare
[16:33] <jensp> hey there, I want to help a friend out with migrating his current ubuntu install to one with FDE, I was going to backup the files, create 2 partitions, one for /boot and one I'll crypt and then add lvm volumes for root, swap, home etc
[16:33] <why> theadmin: although I do
[16:33] <nick55556> i want to put a bullet throu my head because of it
[16:33] <why> nick55556: why
[16:33] <niftylettuce_> usr13: I sent link to the wrong repo, I meant to ask, how do I fix dbus in this spotify-gnome project? https://github.com/jreese/spotify-gnome
[16:33] <jensp> is there anything special I have to do or is installing the tools and editing fstab/grub configuration enough?
[16:34] <jutnux> nick55556: that is what makes it fun.
[16:34] <nick55556> too much work to get it to do what i want
[16:34] <theadmin> why: Even the ArchLinux installer (and Arch does remove old kernels) recommends no less than 2G for /boot
[16:34] <usr13> nick55556: What is it you want to do?
[16:34] <jutnux> Do you run arch at the minute theadmin?
[16:34] <theadmin> jutnux: atm I run Windows 7 lol, but yeah, I normally run Arch for Linux
[16:34] <nick55556> i don't want to talk about it..
[16:35] <usr13> theadmin: Why not just run slackware?
[16:35] <jutnux> nick55556: How are we supposed to help you if you wont talk about it?
[16:35] <why> theadmin: I have a 100MB boot partition and I'm barely using it
[16:35] <jutnux> theadmin: Hah, I was running arch until I switched back to kubuntu, arch is amazing though.
[16:35] <nick55556> jutnux because i finished working on it after 2 hours of pain
[16:35] <theadmin> usr13: Arch just feels right for me, slackware is weird.
[16:35] <theadmin> jutnux: Why'd you switch back?
[16:35] <theadmin> jutnux: Also pm, this is offtopic xD
[16:36] <usr13> theadmin: Ok, well I don't know anything about Arch, (the reason I asked)...
[16:36] <why> Followed by a swap partition because having the swap partition near the front of the disk will give better speeds on non SSD media
[16:36] <niftylettuce_> usr13: specifically here https://github.com/jreese/spotify-gnome/blob/master/bin/spotify
[16:36] <theadmin> usr13: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Compared_to_Other_Distributions#Slackware
[16:37] <usr13> theadmin: Tnx... will read.
[16:38] <usr13> theadmin: Arch is one I've yet to try.  Curious ...
[16:38] <karthick87> How to disable usb in ubuntu 10.10?
[16:39] <why> Arch is for those who like to highly customize their PCs and I wouldn't recommend it for anyone who can't run a distro without a GUI
[16:39] <usr13> for partitioning, I just use  swap, /boot and /home   (In that order)
[16:39] <usr13> for partitioning, I just use  swap, / and /home   (In that order)
[16:39] <saptak> Hi , I am using ubuntu 11.04.I am facing a problem.when I run iReport-3.0.0 on my machine,after sometime the head of the iReport as well as other window like gedit,mozila browser header disappear.Window close,minimize,maximize disappear.Only if I give restart then it comes to the normal state.But it happens again when I run iReport.Please give some possible solution
[16:39] <jutnux> I can run arch, just takes so long with my awful internet.
[16:39] <usr13> sorry,first one was typo
[16:39] <SilverFox> what is the appropriate place to check for, and possibly log a bug regarding headset microphone not working on MBP 5,3 using Oneiric?
[16:39] <why> SilverFox: launchpad
[16:40] <SilverFox> why: under oneiric?
[16:40] <why> SilverFox: yes
[16:40] <gwb> Hi -- Anyone have this problem in 11.10?  I lock my screen (Ctrl-Alt-L) and the screen blanks but the titlebar from my session is still visible!
[16:41] <cconstantine_> theadmin, I found http://blogs.gnome.org/danni/2011/10/21/gnome-terminal-menubar-issue-in-ubuntu-11-10/ and did both of the things that should fix it (either one should have fixed it) and the problem persists :(
[16:41] <usr13> gwb: Maybe that is a feature, (rather than a bug_)?
[16:41] <saptak> can anybody help me.....
[16:41] <theadmin> cconstantine_: Well, odd, but then again -- Ubuntu always does tons of patches for most software so vanilla stuff doesn't usually work
[16:42] <cconstantine_> theadmin, can you recommend another term?
[16:42] <theadmin> cconstantine_: I myself prefer terminal
[16:42] <theadmin> cconstantine_: (yes, that's a name)
[16:42] <theadmin> cconstantine_: In Ubuntu, it's called xfce4-terminal
[16:43] <cconstantine_> theadmin, thanks :)
[16:43] <cconstantine_> xfce is a good project
[16:43] <why> How to transition from Windows to Linux: Windows -> PCLOS (Windows-ish GUI learn general basics)-> Ubuntu (learn more basics and the more advanced) -> Arch
[16:44] <iceowl> I just wish I knew why, with thelatest updates, my windows redraw at about the speed of pluto orbiting the sun.
[16:44] <me-1> hi..why I need to accept Microsoft EULA in order to install wine..?
[16:44] <why> me-1: because it has proprietary files in it]
[16:44] <sskalnik> me-1:  Some of the libraries required for some programs are proprietary agaik
[16:45] <sskalnik> s/agaik/afaik
[16:45] <why> sskalnik: you forgot the closing /
[16:45] <me-1> why,  proparity of MS..?
[16:45] <sskalnik> me-1:  Because MS won't open-source those files?
[16:46] <sskalnik> why:  Mea culpa
[16:46] <silvercat> i can't get nouveau working, i get [drm] failed to open device. I'm using the "mini" xorg.conf file
[16:46] <Gentoo64> why, are you asking or telling
[16:46] <Gentoo64> how to transition?
[16:46] <me-1> sskalnik,  it is legal to use wine..?
[16:46] <Gentoo64> silvercat, try deleting the corg.conf
[16:46]  * why faceplams
[16:46] <Gentoo64> xorg
[16:46] <linuxrealm> how come while doing simple backup using simplebackup, when i reinstalled my OS i could not pull back the backup to the same user on new clean install?
[16:46] <sskalnik> me-1:  Definitely! Otherwise I would personally be in a lot of trouble. :0
[16:47] <iceowl> I really like XFCE, but it makes itself so difficult to keep it working
[16:47] <linuxrealm> i remotely saved the backup, and tried to pull it back, but could not pull the data?
[16:47] <me-1> sskalnik,  fine but I refuse to accept MS EULA
[16:47] <LjL> me-1: you don't have to accept any Microsoft EULA to use basic WINE. you have if you install additional proprietary files in it. that might be prompted by default, but you don't have to do it.
[16:48] <silvercat> Gentoo64: i think it fell back to framebuffer
[16:48] <linuxrealm> is this how simplebackup works? what other products can i use to accomplish this...
[16:48] <Gentoo64> silvercat, nouveau should work without an xorg.conf
[16:48] <linuxrealm> also, i was just trying to pull back home dir stuff, not system files and such
[16:49] <sskalnik> me-1:  While admirable on the face of it, wouldn't that same logic preclude your use of the probably proprietary software that you'd tun under wine?
[16:49] <linuxrealm> thanks..
[16:49] <SilverFox> why: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/488103 seems to cover the bug I'm concerned with, but was opened against 9.10, you think a new report is appropriate, or keep tracking this?
[16:51] <abu-bakr> HI folks, is it just me or does the 'alternate' version of ubuntu desktop take aaages to install compared to the standard install?
[16:51] <silvercat> Gentoo64: well in my case it doesn't. I installed xorg-xserver-video-nouveau from xorg-edgers
[16:51] <abu-bakr> (installing to Raid10 array)
[16:52] <Gentoo64> silvercat, doesnt the default kernel driver work?
[16:52] <silvercat> Gentoo64: might be working now though.. hang on
[16:52] <cconstantine_> theadmin, awesome, I like xfce4-terminal.  thanks :)
[16:52] <Gentoo64> silvercat, also why not use nvidia? is it an old card or something
[16:52] <sskalnik> abu-bakr:  Installs at least as quickly here. Perhaps something else is causing the slowness?
[16:53] <theadmin> cconstantine_: No problem
[16:53] <theadmin> cconstantine_: Also, if you want a terminal which doesn't have a menu bar, try urxvt
[16:53] <abu-bakr> sskalnik .. strange :/
[16:53] <silvercat> Gentoo64: i'm having problems with it detecting screens/dualview/etc so someone suggested using nouveau
[16:53] <Gentoo64> ok, not sure about dual screens
[16:53] <cconstantine_> theadmin, xfce4-terminal does colors, behaves with 'awesome' and the preferences work.  I'm sold
[16:53] <abu-bakr> been over an hour so far and at 67%.. doing plenty of config by the looks of things
[16:54] <p223> #lets say i have a list of libs i need to check if installed how do i do it?
[16:54] <theadmin> cconstantine_: lol okay :D
[16:54] <sskalnik> abu-bakr:  That is definitely quite a long time. My last install on a RAID1 setup took less than 8 minutes
[16:54] <mongy> I <3 xfce.
[16:55] <sskalnik> abu-bakr:  Looking at the log, what seems to be taking the most time? A slow system or slow internet connection could be the source of the issue.
[16:56] <albercik> Hi
[16:57] <Benji83> hi
[16:58] <Benji83> hi someone can help me ?? i have a graphic problem (ati 5640)
[16:58] <silvercat> ok so I've been fiddling around with X so much that my user login doesn't work anymore. It just goes black then returns me to the login screen. the guest session works. Any hints on how to solve this?
[16:59] <isa> hi, i would like to know if anybody knows something about having problems in the mouse for not having upgrade  orupdate the system
[17:00] <Gentoo64> isa, no sense was made there
[17:00] <theadmin> Gentoo64: chinglish lol
[17:00] <Gentoo64> :)
[17:00] <abu-bakr> sskalnik, its a single core running at 1.8ghz however the standard install is done in about 30 mins..
[17:00] <abu-bakr> the internet might have been a little slower than usual (not much) since I was doing a download on another machine.. also its in the config stage at the moment..?
[17:01] <isa> Gentoo64, why?
[17:01] <abu-bakr> oh well, i hope it works at least!
[17:01] <Gentoo64> isa, rephrase the question
[17:01] <GTRsdk2> Which package has GRUB 2 and the GRUB 2 configuration files?
[17:02] <isa> is it possible that my mouse doesn't work because i didn't upgrade/udate the system?
[17:02] <abu-bakr> btw does anyone use empathy for irc? (i want to turn off the '...has joined the room' notifications)
[17:02] <Gentoo64> isa, not if nothign has changed
[17:02] <Dl145> sskalnik: Im during the installation process again, it gets to where I can create partitions etc.. the drive on which I want to create the partition for ubuntu server is called "SDB" and the USB Flash Drive is SDA.. Does this do a difference?
[17:02] <Gentoo64> isa, does it not work at all?
[17:02] <usr13> GTRsdk2: grub2
[17:02] <isa> the thing is that is working sometimes
[17:02] <GTRsdk2> usr13: Thanks. Is that installed in a vanilla Ubuntu install?
[17:02] <Gentoo64> isa, in what way does it not work?
[17:02] <geekbri> I'm trying to install a package that has a dependency that i have already installed (from sourcE).  Is there a way to tell ubuntu "Don't install this package, I have an equivalent installed already"
[17:03] <usr13> GTRsdk2: Yes
[17:03] <isa> when i put turn my pc on in the black screen appears something like this: [17:03] <Gentoo64> hmm
[17:03] <isa> and the starts and the mouse doen't work
[17:03] <GTRsdk2> geekbri: I don't think that is possible if the package names are different. Or at least without trying to rebuild it.
[17:03] <Gentoo64> mabe an xorg driver bug
[17:03] <Gentoo64> idk
[17:03] <Tech-1> is one of the buttons stuck ?
[17:03] <geekbri> GTRsdk2: basically i built rubygems from source and it wants to install ruby gems from DPKG.  :(
[17:04] <Gentoo64> isa, check dmesg for the sake of it
[17:04] <isa> no i don't think so, but maybve that's the problem
[17:04] <sskalnik> Dl145:  That is kinda of odd, but shouldn't break the system. Confirm that the installer installs to the HDD and not the USB?
[17:04] <RaTTuS|BIG> isa is this after grub ? , does ctrl-alt-f1 show anything
[17:04] <isa> what is dmesg?
[17:05] <GTRsdk2> geekbri: That would cause the issue. I think if you already have it installed, it should be safe to try to install it without installing rubygems from dpkg, but I don't know for sure.
[17:05] <woozly> guys how to disable unity and revert old style look?
[17:05] <Gentoo64> !nounity
[17:05] <Dl145> sskalnik: That's confirmed.. I did a manually partitioning..
[17:05] <Gentoo64> isa, log files, its a command
[17:05] <geekbri> GTRsdk2: yeah, the problem is it views rubygems1.8 as a dependency... I suppose I am trying to look for a way to tell it, no this is installed already.  Maybe some sort of stub package?
[17:05] <isa> ok, but i am a total beginner
[17:06] <isa> i'm not sure how to do that
[17:06] <Gentoo64> isa: just type dmesg in terminal
[17:06] <sskalnik> abu-bakr:  That is indeed odd. You might file a bug or post in the forums.
[17:06] <isa> aah, ok i will do that and then i will tell you
[17:06] <Dl145> sskalnik: the setup looks similar to this: http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=203602&d=1317836480
[17:07] <woozly> but can I switch between Unity and Gnome 3?
[17:07] <Dl145> sskalnik: except it says: SCSCI 6 SDB
[17:07] <GTRsdk2> woozly: you should be able to at the login screen
[17:07] <DemonWitch> can someone tell me how to zoom out, shrink the text in links/elinks? i try to view the documentation but words are cut off, its like its zoomed in.
[17:07] <woozly> GTRsdk2, oh thanks
[17:07] <sskalnik> Dl145:  Is this in vbox or on a real machine?
[17:07] <usr13> woozly: You can install as many desktop enviornments as you want.
[17:08] <Dl145> sskalnik: it is a real machine.. HP ProLiant DL145 Server
[17:08] <puff> I'm working a job where they all use skype, is there some way I can connect to skype via empathy?
[17:08] <GTRsdk2> geekbri: If it is a dependency for the package, then the only way to install the package would be to rebuild it and have the dependency changed. But I don't think that is supported here, since that is advanced stuff and could cause more issues if not done properly.
[17:08] <jpds> puff: No.
[17:08] <iToast> Hey*
[17:08] <iToast> I just realized that my webserver has arch linux.
[17:08] <geekbri> GTRsdk2: mmm yes i see.
[17:08] <Gentoo64> iToast: and this is ubuntu
[17:08] <iToast> I've been booting ubuntu from a eHDD but it has Arch on its internel 2gb of storage...
[17:09] <iToast> Gentoo64: And the sky is blue
[17:09] <puff> Hm, speaking of empathy/gtalk, I just went to change my status from offline to online, and it says "untrusted".
[17:09] <glebaron> Dl145, I had the same problem with an install I was doing from a stick. It installed to the stick instead of the server.
[17:09] <puff> Something about the certificate being self-signed.
[17:09] <woozly> thanks guys!
[17:09] <Gentoo64> iToast: ok, so whats the problem?
[17:10] <glebaron> Dl145, Rather than mess with it, I just switched to a CD and the install went perfectly.
[17:10] <Dl145> glebaron: using Guided Partitioning? Im doing it manually, so it should have installed to the right drive, but it doesnt boot up from the drive..
[17:10] <iToast> Gentoo64: nothing, just found it interesting
[17:10] <glebaron> Dl145, I always manually partition.
[17:10] <iToast> But i do wan't to reset my root password
[17:10] <Gentoo64> iToast: whats that got to do with that? :s
[17:10] <iToast> Im following the advice of people here and transfering over SFTP
[17:11] <iToast> But i'm using root.
[17:11] <Dl145> glebaron: problem is, I do not have a cd drive in the server
[17:11] <iToast> ...
[17:11] <iToast> Whats with all the drops.
[17:12] <Gentoo64> iToast: why would you reset the password
[17:12] <iToast> Gentoo64: Hmm, so I can access root directly
[17:12] <iToast> ;p
[17:12] <iToast> sudo su root
[17:12] <sskalnik> Dl145:  Just to rule out the basics; Ctrl + F2/3/4/5/etc. get no shell, and the USB drive is disconnected, and Shift on boot does not get you a GRUB menu, and you are sure the BIOS boots to the right drive?
[17:13] <iToast> And my windows server crashed again...
[17:13] <oCean> iToast: sudo -i is the correct way to start a root shell. Besides that, this channel does not support enabling the root password
[17:13] <ironfoot495> Hello I'm having a problem tranfering file from windows7 to ubuntu10.04lts. Keeps saying open for write:premissions failed file tranfer failed.
[17:13] <ironfoot495> using filezilla
[17:13] <lolufail> hi!
[17:14] <Dl145> sskalnik: Youre correct. yea im quite sure..
[17:14] <iToast> Nope someone used the wrong command
[17:14] <VEndix> when the new Ubuntu is comin out?
[17:14] <silvercat> now i logged in and can only see the nautilus-menu.. whats up with this?
[17:14] <sskalnik> Dl145:  If you get no shell and Shift doesn't work, it sounds like you are GRUB-less.
[17:14] <iToast> oCean, i've gotten help for that here before. stop acting like no one can tell me.
[17:14] <ironfoot495> can someone please help me with this?
[17:14] <Pici> iToast: if you have some weird need to sftp to root, you should do so with key based authentication, not by setting a password.
[17:14] <Gentoo64> VEndix: every 6 months i think
[17:14] <puff> I have an apt-related problem.  On friday I got an update popup, so I updated.  It said it needed to restart, a couple hours later I restarted.  When it came back up, a couple things broke.
[17:14] <iToast> Pici. how.
[17:14] <oCean> iToast: I'm not acting. We don't support setting the root password
[17:14] <iToast> oCean: Others here have.
[17:14] <Dl145> sskalnik: thats what I though.. does it have anything to do that the USB is called SDA and the Drive is called SDB
[17:14] <GTRsdk2> VEndix: April 2012.
[17:14] <Pici> iToast: The same way you would set it up for a user.
[17:15] <iToast> I forgot how.
[17:15] <Gentoo64> iToast: sudo passwd root
[17:15] <iToast> I installed ubutnu 8.04 about 2 months ago to test this.
[17:15] <sskalnik> Dl145:  It is within the realm of possibility that GRUB was installed to the wrong drive.
[17:15] <Pici> iToast: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[17:15] <iToast> Just installed 10.4 for now
[17:15] <oCean> Gentoo64: really?
[17:15] <pikaciu> why not all the win apps work with wine (runtime error) ? thanx
[17:16] <Dl145> sskalnik: yea, but would it work when im installing on sdb instead of sda?
[17:16] <iToast> pikaciu: because wine isn't finished.
[17:16] <Pici> pikaciu: wine is not windows.
[17:16] <iToast> +1
[17:16] <pikaciu> thanx.... Pici ... meaning ?
[17:16] <sskalnik> Dl145:  If GRUB somehow ended up on SDA instead of SDB, then if SDA is plugged in, it should boot
[17:16] <iToast> pikaciu: Meaning not everything will work.
[17:17] <iToast> Some applications require things wine doesn't have.
[17:17] <pikaciu> ah... ok ;P
[17:17] <usr13> pikaciu: You might consider installing your favorite version of MS Windows in vbox
[17:17] <sskalnik> Dl145:  That said, I would boot a live image and see where GRUB was installed
[17:17] <Kyle__> Pici: I think you mean, Wine Is Not an Emulator ;)
[17:17] <iToast> pikaciu: Consider wine more like a virtual machine...
[17:17] <iToast> A very buggy crash prone virtual machine.
[17:17] <Dl145> sskalnik: i will give it one more try..then i will try with a live image..
[17:17] <sskalnik> Dl145:  sounds good
[17:17] <iToast> It works amazing but not with everything
[17:17] <lolufail> what is more wise: new server on 12.04 daily build, or 11.10, and then upgrade to LTS as soon as it's available?
[17:17] <Kyle__> iToast: But when it works, it's amazingly nicer than using a full blown VM.
[17:18] <usr13> pikaciu: ... but we are here only to solve your Ubuntu problems.
[17:18] <pikaciu> iToast : ok
[17:18] <iToast> Kyle__: By MILES
[17:18] <sskalnik> lolufail:  Probably 11.10 since 12.04 isn't finished yet.
[17:18] <iToast> I hate using vm's
[17:18] <Gentoo64> lolufail: well for a server whats the point of a daily build? youd want something thats not gona crach
[17:19] <iToast> Your os takes ram then the vm then the geust os takes a sh!t load more
[17:19] <pikaciu> usr13: infact i'm trying to make the win apps working with ssh -X in my Ubuntu... :(
[17:19] <oCean> iToast: if you have to obfuscate your words, don't use them
[17:19] <iToast> oCean: Your no fun.
[17:19] <sskalnik> Gentoo64, lolufail: that said, I use 12.04 on several production sytems, but I knew what I was getting into when I did it.
[17:19] <Kyle__> I have never been so frustrated in my professional career. I've got 96 cores worth of server, just waiting for me to linuxify, and it's been sitting there, for a week.  Damned slow electricians.
[17:19] <iToast> Kyle__: that sucks
[17:20] <iToast> Your gonna make a cloud?
[17:20] <sskalnik> Kyle__:  that sounds awesome aside from the waiting part. XD
[17:20] <iToast> +1
[17:20] <Kyle__> iToast: Yup.  And I need to do it before winter break is over.
[17:20] <silvercat> when I log into ubuntu I just get the background image, nothing else, not even the nautilus menu.. whats up with this?
[17:20] <iToast> Kyle__: Damn!
[17:20] <Kyle__> silvercat: how long does it last?
[17:20] <Pici> !offtopic
[17:20] <iToast> Kyle__: I want that machine!
[17:20] <Kyle__> Sorry pici.
[17:21] <Atlantic777> Where can I see defaultu ubuntu kernel config?
[17:21] <iToast> Anyways
[17:21] <silvercat> Kyle__: until i provoke a shutdown i guess.. i can move the mouse around etc
[17:21] <Gentoo64> Atlantic777: try zcat /proc/config.gz
[17:21] <Gentoo64> might not work idk
[17:21] <Kyle__> iToast: Lookup dell c5125.  Neatest hardware Dell has made in ages.
[17:21] <iToast> my first server was a windows box.
[17:21] <Kyle__> silvercat: If you switch to console, can you log in?
[17:21] <silvercat> Kyle__: yes
[17:21] <Kyle__> silvercat: CTRL+ALT+F1 should switch
[17:21] <iToast> It just served up web pages.. then came freenas, and ubuntu
[17:21] <Kyle__> silvercat: Ah ok.  What does the load look like?  Anything in syslog?
[17:21] <oCean> iToast, use #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat please
[17:22] <iToast> oCean: Stop being no fun please
[17:22] <oCean> iToast: you can follow the channel guidelines or leave
[17:22] <iToast> oCean: Your complaining about everything i say.
[17:22] <Atlantic777> Gentoo64: nope, no such file. Cheers from another Gentoo user! :D
[17:23] <iToast> 'I understand it IS NOT recomended to change the root password, but I do that anyways just for my sanity
[17:23] <silvercat> Kyle__: 0 load. compiz.desktop seems to get killed by what i can tell from syslog
[17:23] <oCean> iToast: and rightfully so. The bot gave you a link to the guidelines when you entered, please stick to those guidelines
[17:23] <iToast> oCean: ...
[17:23] <GTRsdk2> iToast: well there are rules, operators, and normal people in this channel. Each have similar goals
[17:24] <iToast> Anyways like i was about to say, automatic updates, will it only update my packages and install security updates, or full upgrade's of ubuntu itself
[17:24] <Gentoo64> iToast: packages
[17:24] <pangolin> and security updates
[17:24] <iToast> Gentoo64: So every ubuntu server update is manual?
[17:25] <Gentoo64> iToast: it should warn you of a ubuntu u[pgrade
[17:25] <iToast> ok
[17:25] <Atlantic777> iToast: there's dist-upgrade which will upgrade to next ubuntu release.
[17:25] <Diranged> if i have a package that was removed at some point on a system, is it possible to see why or when?… the package is listed as 'rc' with dpkg, but i dont see in the dpkg.log any reference to it being removed..
[17:25] <iToast> Atlantic777: Ty
[17:25] <Diranged> im wondering whether i can see if some other package caused this one to be removed
[17:25] <pangolin> Atlantic777: that is wrong
[17:25] <iToast> Im not shure if ANY of you will understand this, but my server has a status LED, could i controll it?
[17:26] <iToast> Every hour check for a update and flash the light from green to orange for 2 mins
[17:26] <Atlantic777> iToast: I'm currently working at similar thing. xD
[17:26] <iToast> Atlantic777: Lets work on it togeather.
[17:26] <Gentoo64> iToast: maybe youd have to code it yourself
[17:26] <puff> I had to jump through various hoops to get sun java installed for my browser (and I needed sun java, not just openJDK, to support a juniper VPN for work).  The I updated on friday, when I rebooted the browser java stopped working.  I jumped through the same hoops to reinstall the java, but this time I got an error message from the bin install.
[17:26] <ikonia> iToast: look at lcdproc
[17:26] <iToast> Gentoo64: Ubuntu seems to have full controll over the LED
[17:26] <ikonia> iToast: I use it to control multiple LCD/LED displays
[17:26] <Gentoo64> idk, im not _that_ much of a ricer
[17:26] <Atlantic777> iToast: theres CONFIG_USB_LED driver in kernel, and there should be /sys/bus/usb/driver/usbled/version/something.txt file
[17:26] <oCean> Atlantic777: dist-upgrade does not upgrade to new versions
[17:27] <iToast> Atlantic777: Ok, what hardware are you using
[17:27] <Atlantic777> oCean: do release upgrade or something?
[17:27] <Atlantic777> iToast: I'm just trying to help a guy on some forum with some usb webmail notifier.
[17:27] <abu-bakr> ok installation using alternate installer also failed
[17:28] <RootLUG> Hi. I know that's little of topic but I need to find someone to record two sentences in English. The best would be a female voice. Is here some volunteer please? :-)
[17:28] <abu-bakr> onto raid 10 array
[17:28] <Atlantic777> iToast: you just need to write status for led into that file and led will do that. :)
[17:28] <Gentoo64> abu-bakr: what [art failed
[17:28] <iToast> Atlantic777: i wan'ted to do the same thing, but using a text message
[17:28] <Atlantic777> iToast: just write a script which will edit that file and you did the jub. Of course, if driver's work properly.
[17:29] <iToast> Atlantic777: Ok
[17:29] <abu-bakr> gentoo64 installation completed as normal, time to reboot.. on boot the cmoputer bios says : no such device and then reads a long number (like a drive id)
[17:29] <abu-bakr> and lands on grub rescue
[17:29] <iToast> WOAH!
[17:29] <iToast> Ubuntu just got my system temp!
[17:29] <isa> well now, i restart the pc and the mouse is working, i mean the tactile mouse, because now i have to use a usb mouse
[17:29] <iToast> Never did in 8.04 o.o
[17:29] <isa> is really weird
[17:29] <Gentoo64> abu-bakr: ah raid, cant help with that :s
[17:29] <abu-bakr> well raid in ubuntu seems totally useless
[17:29] <Gentoo64> isa: ah was it a ps/2 mouse?
[17:30] <usr13> isa: Is there something wrong with the other mouse?
[17:30] <abu-bakr> and it has wasted over 20 hours for me so far!
[17:30] <iToast> isa: i have a isa card...
[17:30] <meta> Is there a way to see what libraries installed software is using? Without looking at the source?
[17:30] <usr13> abu-bakr: Are you talking hardware rade or software raid?
[17:30] <abu-bakr> rediculous... 20 hours overtime at work would have bought me a brand new hardcore hardware raid set up!
[17:30] <isa> withisa card?
[17:30] <abu-bakr> ubuntu softraid
[17:30] <Gentoo64> isa: was it a ps/2 mouse not working?
[17:30] <usr13> abu-bakr: software raid is a waste of time IMHO
[17:31] <ManDay> Is there a way to install packages without their dependencies? I want to install libc-dev  WITHOUT (!) gcc or anything else!
[17:31] <abu-bakr> i now know that
[17:31] <mickey1> abu-bakr, don't let you fustration spill here..
[17:31] <isa> the ps/2 is the mouse of the pc, the one that is tactile, right?
[17:31] <abu-bakr> but have grown a deep hatred for the developers of it to not tell anyone how useless it can be
[17:31] <Gentoo64> isa: idk what you mean by tactile
[17:31] <abu-bakr> i have tried to install it in many diff ways and configs prob more than 10 times over 20 hours
[17:31] <Gentoo64> isa: is the motherboard an asus?
[17:32] <isa> yes!!!
[17:32] <Gentoo64> isa: p7p55d?
[17:32] <isa> is this the model?
[17:32] <Gentoo64> yes
[17:32] <isa> i have to check, but why?
[17:32] <bucky> hi mighty !
[17:32] <Gentoo64> isa: what cpu do you have
[17:32] <abu-bakr> anyone else in here understand RAID ?
[17:33] <abu-bakr> or ubuntu software raid in particular
[17:33] <isa> `my god, this is high level for me
[17:33] <RaTTuS|BIG> !raid | abu-bakr
[17:33] <ManDay> Can apt-get made just install the package specified on the commandline and NOT install the dependencies?
[17:33] <usr13> abu-bakr: What I understand about raid is that hardware-raid just works.  Software raid is a waste of time.
[17:34] <Gentoo64> isa: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[17:34] <meta> usr13: thats not true
[17:34] <Gentoo64> grep name
[17:34] <iToast> This is a bit more awkward of a question, since my server has a bluetooth and wireless card in it, can i take advantage of them?
[17:34] <meta> software raid just requires more effort
[17:34] <isa> in the back of the pc says: Eee PC 1001PX
[17:34] <iToast> isa: Intel Atom
[17:34] <abu-bakr> RaTTuS|BIG, thanks but those guides are flawed.. it just doesnt work
[17:34] <isa> yes, that's right
[17:34] <meta> abu bakr what distro are you using?
[17:34] <isa> Intel Atom, but...what about that?
[17:35] <iToast> isa: The cpu is a Intel Atom 1.6 ghz the system has 1gb of stock ram and from 4gb - 160gb of storage
[17:35] <Kyle__> usr13: In some cases software raid actually outpreforms hardware raid, or is more configuratble.
[17:35] <isa> aha
[17:35] <iToast> isa: Intel atom + ubuntu isn't the best choice
[17:35] <abu-bakr> 11:10 alternate .. as suggested by those guides in ubuntu documentation
[17:35] <iToast> Use the Netbook Ubuntu edition
[17:35] <isa> and why is that?
[17:35] <Gentoo64> isa: hmm not the same mobo as mine then. my mobo has a ps/2 bug with linux thats why i asked. why not just sue the usb mouse if it works?
[17:35] <abu-bakr> also used standard 11:04 which is what I preferred to use
[17:35] <meta> I did it many times with the 10.04 server cd
[17:35] <iToast> isa: a full ubuntu install is more, demanding. a netbook install isn't
[17:35] <usr13> Kyle__: meta I just told what I understand about raid which is not to say that's all there is to it.
[17:35] <bucky> abu-bakr, i missed out on most of your posts but.. I usually set up  small a couple of raid 0 partions for /boot as the first primary partition and make both drives bootable with the partitioner whiled I'm at it... it takes the alt cd install to pull off soft raid
[17:35] <Gentoo64> iToast: afaik isnt the netbook edition discontinued
[17:36] <iToast> Gentoo64: ?!
[17:36] <iToast> I was gonna install ubuntu on my netbook.
[17:36] <SlayersZ> 11.04 broke my system.  Unity is gone :o
[17:36] <Gentoo64> i thought it merged into normal edition
[17:36] <Kyle__> usr13: Also, remember, even if a hardware raid card is supported under linux, the control software may not be.  That means any and all changes, updates, fixes, and other interactions, need you to reboot into the raid bios.
[17:36] <isa> so what do you thing is the best thing i can do? apart from using the usb mouse?
[17:36] <meta> I noticed it helps if the disks dont have any errors
[17:36] <Gentoo64> isa: no idea. how often does the mouse stop working?
[17:36] <iToast> isa: Try Xubuntu?
[17:36] <meta> ie SpinRite them before configuration
[17:36] <genii-around> Gentoo64: Yes, it should try to auto-decide which version at install time is appropriate
[17:36] <abu-bakr> bucky, thanks.. done just that.. still doesn't work
[17:36] <iToast> isa: ubuntu will run, but might have some ruff edges on a netbook.
[17:37] <bucky> abu-bakr, sorry to hear.. hmmm....
[17:37] <Kyle__> meta: :) if a disk has errors, it's generally on it's way out, and shoudln't be used, except for recovery testing.
[17:37] <iToast> I've had it run on a celeron 700mhz
[17:37] <isa> the mouse works when i restart 3 times the pc, that is what i noticed
[17:37] <abu-bakr> i created a raid 1 (mirror) device for the /boot location.. i've tried putting /boot in a non raid part too
[17:37] <meta> not necessarily Kyle
[17:37] <GTRsdk2> isa: Which version of Ubuntu?
[17:37] <usr13> isa: Check for hardware problem
[17:37] <iToast> I have a very stupid'ish question
[17:37] <isa> so then i shouldn't upgrade the system to ubuntu 11.4?
[17:37] <meta> Hard drives have their own error correcting software transparent to the OS
[17:37] <isa> ok
[17:37] <abu-bakr> i think the /boot is discoverable but the imaginary raid array is never found .. nomatter how it is installed
[17:37] <Kyle__> meta: Depends on what smart says I suppose.
[17:37] <usr13> isa: and I would start with memtest
[17:37] <meta> sometimes it fails
[17:37] <iToast> Can i mirrow my boot drive to a external drive...
[17:38] <iToast> mirror*
[17:38] <meta> smart sucks man
[17:38] <Atlantic777> iToast: I'v just found out that the usbled driver's is compiled as module, so you need to load it with this cmd: sudo modprobe usbled
[17:38] <JLuc> Hint bubles are ivory on ivory, both on ubuntu and xchat. It is impossible to read them, thats a big problem. Plz help these apps to behave correctly with Ubuntu.
[17:38] <isa> memtest in the terminla?
[17:38] <Gentoo64> usr13: i doubt memtest will help there
[17:38] <isa> termninal?
[17:38] <JLuc> Hint bubles are ivory on ivory, both on SCRIBUS  and xchat. It is impossible to read them, thats a big problem. Plz help these apps to behave correctly with Ubuntu.
[17:38] <meta> I got two failed drives according to smart still going for less important stuff
[17:38] <Kyle__> meta: SCSI hard drives have good error correction, SATA/IDE drives the correction depends on the vendor.  Some pi** poor, some OK.  None of them as good as SCSI in my experience.
[17:38] <Atlantic777> iToast: try to google about that driver and play with config files.
[17:38] <bucky> abu-bakr, can i private msg you
[17:38] <iToast> Atlantic777: its loaded.
[17:39] <GTRsdk2> isa: You might want to use an Ubuntu 11.10 Live CD for testing the mouse
[17:39] <usr13> Gentoo64: Yes, it is quite possible that the problem is not the RAM, but we do not know for sure, do we...
[17:39] <Kyle__> meta: If you've got ide/sata drives, SMART is all you can be garaunteed to get at.
[17:39] <Gentoo64> usr13: well its only the mouse, and a ps2 one so im 100% sure its not the ram
[17:39] <isa> ok, so i need to get this 11.10 then?
[17:40] <GTRsdk2> isa: That is what I would do, since drivers are usually updated from version to version
[17:40] <isa> aha, so then it could be a problem of upgrades,no?
[17:41] <Kyle__> ...mind you, if anyone has something better than smart that works with commodity drives, I'm all ears.
[17:41] <Atlantic777> btw Gentoo64, kernel config is in /boot -.- /usr/src/linux FFS!
[17:41] <meta> I think smart is the easiest indicator
[17:42] <meta> But if you put some real stress on the drive you get a better idea
[17:42] <ikonia> Atlantic777: tl e
[17:42] <GTRsdk2> isa: If the mouse is a wired mouse, it could either be a hardware issue or driver issue. If you are on 10.10, and it is a common mouse on a common computer, then please try another mouse (if possible) to see if it is a hardware issue
[17:42] <ikonia> Atlantic777: tone it down please.
[17:42] <Zanzacar> I am trying to resize a my partition mounted at / with gparted but I cant seem to figure it out.
[17:42] <meta> such as a zeroing
[17:42] <Gentoo64> Atlantic777, i thought you would have tried usr src linux :)
[17:42] <meta> either it dies or the SMART data changes
[17:42] <isa> no, is not a wired mouse is just the mouse on the keyboard
[17:43] <Kyle__> meta: Agreed, but you can't do destructive testing while a system is in production.
[17:43] <meta> yeah thats true
[17:43] <usr13> Zanzacar: the partition must not be mounted when you attempt to resize it.
[17:43] <iToast> You guys, ISA is using a netbook
[17:43] <isa> and thaks all for your patience, becuse i am an ignorant in all this pc issues
[17:43] <meta> but for RAID I recommend  you stress test the drives first
[17:43] <GTRsdk2> isa: A mouse on the keyboard? Is it a laptop or a desktop ? It is beginning to sound like it could be a driver issue
[17:43] <mickey1> Gentoo64, usr13  both are right hardware external cannot detect the usb..(old hardware) uncompitable issues..let him look for hardware instead
[17:43] <iToast> isa: Try changing your mouse setting to ps/2, if not, use generic usb
[17:43] <Zanzacar> usr13: I cant unmount it though so how do I do that? Should I boot to a liveCD or something?
[17:43] <iToast> Should work fine.
[17:43] <isa> is a latop
[17:43] <iToast> isa: try it.
[17:44] <usr13> Zanzacar: Yes, you will need to user a liveCD or something....
[17:44] <isa> i am going to try it
[17:44] <meta> I think ubuntu has problems with partitioning RAID though
[17:44] <Zanzacar> usr13: Is there something better then a liveCD?
[17:44] <GTRsdk2> isa: I would try using Ubuntu 11.10 if you are having driver issues
[17:44] <meta> I usually run into trouble by the third partition
[17:45] <helo> i'm getting 404's on http://ppa.launchpad.net oneiric/main amd64 Packages
[17:45] <usr13> Zanzacar: live (bootable) usb
[17:45] <Kyle__> meta: I almost always use LVM if I'm not using software raid as one big partition.
[17:45] <isa> yes, i am having it since i saw a signal in the upper bar saying something weird about missing a lot of updates, thats why i thought that could be this upgrade think
[17:45] <silvercat> only Ubuntu(2D) works using nouveau, is this normal?
[17:46] <meta> oh I get it
[17:46] <trigrou> after last update, I guess the kernel 3.0, suspend is broken
[17:47] <trigrou> any hint ?
[17:47] <meta> so you can add more raids as you go Kyle?
[17:47] <mickey1> Zanzacar, depends if only you have data only the drive and if nothing or something on it live cd  better option
[17:47] <Kyle__> meta: so I can re-allocate and move data as needed.  Or move data off of the raid devbice onto a larger one, etc.
[17:48] <meta> I see
[17:48] <meta> Im never use LVM before
[17:48] <Kyle__> meta: Also, I've never had a DBA or contractor give me accurate information about how much space they needed.  It's _always_ 20 gigs more then they need, or 100 gigs too little.
[17:48] <Kyle__> meta: It's awesome stuff.
[17:49] <meta> Hmm
[17:49] <mickey1> silvercat, nouveau is the default drivers ; alteast to bypass the xorg...search of the properitery drivers for the graphics
[17:49] <meta> I need to try that
[17:50] <meta> I usually take hours to determine how much space I need on my home servers
[17:51] <f0x00> how can i spin down
[17:52] <f0x00> fan speed
[17:53] <mickey1> f0x00, fan speed is specific hardware ; bios stuff..nothing to do with ubuntu ..sorry
[17:53] <f0x00> mickey1: i have an alienware system and if i activate propietary driver it spins down but graafic performance is poor
[17:54] <barrua6> hello, can anyone help me installing Ubuntu? Having problems installing along with Windows 7 64b...
[17:54] <mickey1> f0x00, may be some one with alienware can come up keep the post..
[17:55] <Daekdroom> !sudo
[17:55] <f0x00> mickey1: but lm-sensors and that stuff
[17:55] <f0x00> ?
[17:55] <barrua6> im getting error "PARTED CANT RESIZE PARTITIONS MANAGED BY WINDOWS DYNAMIC DISK" while trying to install Ubuntu...
[17:56] <barrua6> anyone knows how to fix this?
[17:56] <helo> if a ppa package version is older than a version in the main repos, how do i install it?
[17:56] <mickey1> barrua6, i hope there is a wubi.exe so that's the error
[17:56] <b0rsuk> Hello, I have a laptop (samsung rf 711) where keyboard doesn't work when Ubuntu is booted from USB. I'm forced to use graphical programs only. What's the best GUI equivalent of fsck ?
[17:56] <b0rsuk> Bonus points if it doesn't need any keyboard input !
[17:56] <barrua6> wubi.exe? whats that? that fixes the problem?
[17:58] <mickey1> barrua6, wubi is a installer there is nothing as fix problems
[17:58] <barrua6> oh, ok like an installer for windows...
[17:58] <barrua6> ok thx, ill try. bye
[17:59] <Zanzacar> usr13: I had a ultimate boot cd with gparted on it, so I just used that and I am in gparted now moving/resizing my drive. Everything seems to be working well so far.
[18:00] <inashdeen> hi, i got a laptop asus a435 here, try to install driver but it says fail to load module ;nvidia'. specs : ram : 2gb ddr3  graphic :nvidia gt520m 1gb
[18:04] <Furgeroka> !sudo
[18:05] <Furgeroka> !cli
[18:05] <Kimble> Hey. I'm currently tunnelling VLC over SSH in order to view a webcam.  How do I use X11 to view VLC without tunnelling it?
[18:06] <mickey1> inashdeen, lspci | grep VGA paste the output
[18:07] <RayzrShrp> anybody know how to change the active windows in irssi?
[18:07] <circulardna> hello everyone
[18:07] <Gentoo64> RayzrShrp, ctrl p for previous
[18:07] <Gentoo64> RayzrShrp, ctrl n for next
[18:08] <Tech-1> RayzrShrp:  change rooms ?
[18:08] <RayzrShrp> Gentoo64: thank you any way for a specific window?
[18:08] <RayzrShrp> Tech-1: yeah i guess so
[18:08] <Tech-1> Gentoo64:  got it
[18:08] <Gentoo64> RayzrShrp, ctrl 1 etc i think
[18:08] <Tech-1> ^
[18:08] <Tech-1> or the # of the room
[18:08] <Zanzacar> I have an odd question, why is it that in the terminal if I do ls -lh I get an iso to be 695M but if I am in nautilus it says it is 729M?
[18:09] <paulsomebody> Is it possible to use 'xinput' to map a mouse button as a _combination_ of key presses?
[18:10] <RayzrShrp> Gentoo64: hmmm no luck
[18:10] <kamilnadeem> Hi
[18:10] <Gentoo64> alt +1
[18:10] <zmax> #
[18:10] <blz> !hi | kamilnadeem
[18:10] <kamilnadeem> Is there are way to stop the Ubuntu one from auto connecting on startup in 11.10 ? , I disconnect it but it agains renable at startup?
[18:10] <kamilnadeem> blz: Hi
[18:10] <zmax> #
[18:11] <zmax> S
[18:11] <GTRsdk2> Zanzacar: I think it is a bug in nautilus becuase I don't remember that happening in older Ubuntu versions
[18:11] <Kimble> Zanzacar: probably a difference between actual data size and on-disk size?
[18:11] <paulsomebody> kamilnadeem: Yes, you can.
[18:11] <kamilnadeem> paulsomebody: Please guide me
[18:11] <RayzrShrp> Gentoo64: nope
[18:12] <RayzrShrp> Gentoo64: could it be a terminal emulation issue
[18:12] <Gentoo64> RayzrShrp: works for me
[18:12] <Zanzacar> well I looked into it and it appears that nautilus just divided by 1000 instead of 1012 to convert from bytes to Mbytes
[18:12] <kamilnadeem> earlier I used to disable it and it stayed put but now it doesn't seems to be happening
[18:12] <Furgeroka> Hello phantomofparis
[18:12] <paulsomebody> kamilnadeem: There is check box, 'Connect automatically' in the Network Connections utility.
[18:12] <Furgeroka> Hello skyweb
[18:12] <blz> kamilnadeem, connecting to what?
[18:13] <circulardna> 有天朝的嚒？
[18:13] <paulsomebody> kamilnadeem: You can access it by clicking on the network indicator and then going to 'Edit Connections' dialogue.
[18:13] <paulsomebody> !jp | circulardna
[18:13] <paulsomebody> !ch | circulardna
[18:13] <paulsomebody> Oops, no luck.
[18:13] <mickey1> kamilnadeem, http://askubuntu.com/questions/71518/how-do-i-prevent-ubuntu-one-indicator-from-connecting-automatically-after-login
[18:14] <Zanzacar> If you manually convert the bytes given to you fro nautilus it is the write size but the converted version in nautilus is wrong. Should I report this somewhere?
[18:14] <scott___> exit
[18:14] <scott___> exit
[18:14] <inashdeen> mickey1 : 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 1050 (rev a1)
[18:14] <kamilnadeem> paulsomebody: what will this mean for my wired internet connection , will I have enable it every startup ?
[18:14] <RayzrShrp> Gentoo64: are you using putty or securecrt?
[18:14] <trism> Zanzacar: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UnitsPolicy might explain the reason
[18:14] <paulsomebody> kamilnadeem: Sorry, I thought you are talking about network connection.
[18:14] <trism> Zanzacar: specifically the Exceptions section
[18:14] <paulsomebody> kamilnadeem: Use the link mickey1 sent you.
[18:14] <Furgeroka> Welcome to #ubuntu, plok
[18:14] <kamilnadeem> paulsomebody: :)
[18:15] <kamilnadeem> paulsomebody: I mean UBuntu one
[18:15] <mickey1> inashdeen, then try the properitary drivers
[18:15] <Gentoo64> RayzrShrp: no
[18:15] <Furgeroka> Welcome to #ubuntu, schnuffle
[18:15] <Furgeroka> Hello pAt__
[18:15] <RayzrShrp> Gentoo64: hmm it seems to work with putty but not with secureCRT
[18:15] <Furgeroka> Hello SilverFox
[18:15] <inashdeen> mickey : is trying to download them from nvidia now.
[18:15] <Gentoo64> RayzrShrp: something to do with that then, i have no idea about that
[18:15] <RayzrShrp> Gentoo64: guess i'll chalk it up to some kind of issue with securecrt
[18:15] <kamilnadeem> mickey1: Looking through it.
[18:15] <Furgeroka> Hello lcfd
[18:16] <Gentoo64> RayzrShrp: Yeah its probabkly something to do with the hotkey
[18:16] <lcfd> ciao
[18:16] <kamilnadeem> mickey1: It doesn't answers
[18:16] <b0rsuk> My samsung rf 711 laptop doesn't boot. Windows 7 and Ubuntu 11.04 are installed on it, but they stopped booting. In fact, it doesn't even get to GRUB ! What could it be ?
[18:17] <b0rsuk> The screen flashes after turning the laptop on. Flashes in cycles, bright, dark, bright, dark.
[18:17] <RayzrShrp> Gentoo64: figured it out, ESC and then the number of the window
[18:17] <b0rsuk> I can go to BIOS.
[18:17] <projekt26> I am trying to enable the apparmor profile for firefox on ubuntu 11.10. however, it does not seem to know the aa-enforce command
[18:17] <Gentoo64> RayzrShrp: ah yea that works
[18:18] <b0rsuk> I booted Ubuntu from USB, performed a disk check using gparted and found nothing out of ordinary.
[18:18] <Gentoo64> RayzrShrp: sorry i only use ctrl p and n as i only normally have 2 or 3 windows open
[18:18] <paulsomebody> kamilnadeem: Can you remind me where you can get that indicator?
[18:18] <RayzrShrp> Gentoo64: thanks for your help none the less
[18:18] <kamilnadeem> I have the same question as that guy, I don't want to it to connect automatically at login. It never used to happen when I disconnect it but now that doesn't works as at every startup it connect automatically
[18:18] <b0rsuk> Can you point me to some general laptop channel ?
[18:18] <paulsomebody> kamilnadeem: I used to have it installed, but then purged the repositories and forgot where I got it.
[18:18] <RayzrShrp> Gentoo64: found the setting for securecrt under terminal/emulation/emacs
[18:19] <kamilnadeem> paulsomebody: The Ubuntu one Indicator.
[18:19] <paulsomebody> kamilnadeem: Yes, but what repository? I don't think it is in the Universe.
[18:19] <Siphax> azul
[18:19] <kamilnadeem> I don't know the answer to that. Sorry
[18:20] <paulsomebody> b0rsuk: Have you tried #laptops or #notebooks?
[18:20] <b0rsuk> paulsomebody: Yes I have, it's empty.
[18:21] <GTRsdk2> b0rsuk: is it a hardware issue?
[18:21] <paulsomebody> b0rsuk: I think you will have more luck trying specific manufacturers, like #samsung or #lenovo.
[18:21] <mickey1> kamilnadeem, may be a reverse question  http://askubuntu.com/questions/9486/why-wont-ubuntuone-service-start-automatically-at-boot
[18:21] <Zanzacar> trism: Thank you.
[18:22] <circulardna> Friends from China here~
[18:22] <GTRsdk2> kamilnadeem: Have you looked at the automatic login items?
[18:22] <kamilnadeem> mickey1: I can live with it as it says it will be fixed
[18:23] <b0rsuk> GTRsdk2: It looks a bit like it, but how do I check ? Gparted found nothing interesting.
[18:23] <kamilnadeem> GTRsdk2: You mean startup applications?
[18:23] <b0rsuk> The data on hdd can be accessed and looks ok on first glance.
[18:23] <GTRsdk2> kamilnadeem: I think so, but for when you log in
[18:23] <b0rsuk> There's no #samsung channel
[18:23] <GTRsdk2> b0rsuk: has GRUB been overwritten?
[18:23] <mickey1> kamilnadeem, they both contain script that you need pls compare and find a alternative youself..that's my idea :)
[18:24] <Peyam> hi
[18:24] <Peyam> I have a big issue
[18:24] <ivan_99> ?
[18:24] <Peyam> I use a intel integrate graphic with my processor.. I have my computer connected to my TV.
[18:24] <b0rsuk> GTRsdk2: The laptop is not mine, but I asked my roommate for these things (he doesn't even upgrade software on his linux partition). Nothing as far as I know.
[18:25] <Peyam> but I cant see anything with my tv . so I must use a vga cable
[18:25] <b0rsuk> There's no reason to believe GRUB has been overwritten.
[18:25] <b0rsuk> Unless it was an automatic Windows 7 update.
[18:25] <kamilnadeem> mickey1: Thanks but I am Ok with it. There is something else that is more Important . Linux kernels have been updates many times after 11.10 and I see 3 options in drub while booting
[18:25] <GTRsdk2> b0rsuk: Okay. Could you boot into Ubuntu using Super Grub Disk?
[18:25] <kamilnadeem> is there a safe way to remove them as it delays my boot up because every time I have to select one
[18:26] <b0rsuk> GTRsdk2: I haven't tried SGD, but I can boot from USB.
[18:26] <b0rsuk> However, *keyboard doesn't work* !!
[18:26] <Peyam> Does anybody now why I cant see anything with my hdmi cable ?
[18:27] <b0rsuk> Keyboard works in BIOS but not in Ubuntu once you boot.
[18:27] <GTRsdk2> Peyam: Does your computer support HDMI?
[18:27] <mickey1> kamilnadeem, if that so it will take a single script to purge the old kernel ; but in case you get stuck with the generic kernel a fail safe option..:)
[18:27] <Peyam> yes
[18:27] <Peyam> GTRsdk2,  yes it does
[18:27] <GTRsdk2> Peyam: Which version of Ubuntu?
[18:27] <Peyam> 11.10
[18:28] <kamilnadeem> mickey1: I have tried it twice , 1st time I succeded removing the Linux Image from synaptic , 2nd time system won't run as I got an error
[18:28] <b0rsuk> I don't think I can even try to restore GRUB 2 without a functioning keyboard.
[18:29] <GTRsdk2> Peyam: And the TV is set to HDMI?
[18:29] <Peyam> yes
[18:29] <kamilnadeem> mickey1: I should install startupmanager and set selection time to 0, what say? I don't want to mess my system and I am having this on my Ubuntu 11.10 and Kubuntu 11.10?
[18:30] <Peyam> GTRsdk2, INTEl (R) Graphics family
[18:30] <circulardna> hey
[18:30] <mickey1> kamilnadeem, you should read more instead jumping to conclusion and getting online advices understand your need act accordingly.
[18:32] <DarkStar1> anyone know if Anyone here use a PPA for mySQL 5.5?
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | DarkStar1 try the link
[18:33] <DarkStar1> Oops... I just want to know if anyone uses a 5.5 ppa for ubuntu 10.10
[18:33] <DarkStar1> ubottu and ActionParsnip: thx
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar1: the link goes to launchpad's search. You may get a lot of results but may strike gold
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar1: the folks in #mysql may know a way to get it installed too
[18:35] <Peyam> GTRsdk2,  do you know the solution
[18:35] <CipherX> anyone know of an easy way to break up output by space? ie: I execute command: `find /export/ -type f -mtime 0` and get a list of files as output but I want to break them up into single arguments so I can compare them
[18:36] <DarkStar1> ActionParsnip: (07:34:39 PM) thumbs: DarkStar1: then it's definitely a question for #ubuntu, not here.
[18:36] <GTRsdk2> Peyam: No. I think if you try searching, you might find the answer. I did a quick google search and found some UBuntu forums posts about it. That might help. I don't have a computer with Intel graphics and HDMI support, so I can't really help with that.
[18:36] <CipherX> been plugging away at if for a while, nothing I try seems to work
[18:36] <CipherX> it*
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar1: bah
[18:36] <Peyam> GTRsdk2,  yes. please send me the link
[18:37] <DarkStar1> lol
[18:37] <MrPopinjay> Anybody want to recommend a GUI application that will decompress .rar files?
[18:37] <DarkStar1> ActionParsnip: (07:37:03 PM) thumbs: DarkStar1: we don't support ubuntu packages or repositories
[18:37] <josephseraos> hey, I'd like to access a computar from many others in same tim. How could I do it?
[18:37] <dancek> DarkStar1, googling gives me http://geek.co.il/wp/2011/03/02/mysql-5-5-on-ubuntu-10-10 which would suggest there's probably no binary packages for ubuntu 10.10
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> MrPopinjay: the rightclick menu in nautilus will once you install rar and unrar
[18:37] <trism> MrPopinjay: if you install unrar, file-roller (or Archive Manager as it is called from nautilus) will unpack rar
[18:37] <josephseraos> time*
[18:38] <DarkStar1> dancek: Already been there and it fails
[18:38] <MrPopinjay> Thanks.
[18:38] <dancek> DarkStar1, have you tried just compiling yourself (to /usr/local or something)
[18:38] <josephseraos> how could I do this, please?
[18:38] <DarkStar1> (07:37:40 PM) thumbs: DarkStar1: however, they need to be aware that they must support their repositories and package manager.
[18:39] <GTRsdk2> Peyam: I don;t know exactly what you have, but you might want to try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1700656
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> MrPopinjay: if you install unp you can use unp on nearly any archive and it will be handed rather than remembering the switches to extract the different filetypes
[18:40] <dancek> DarkStar1, as you're venturing to an unsupported area anyway, I see no real reason why you couldn't compile mysql yourself
[18:40] <Peyam> GTRsdk2,  it didnt help. I have a stationary computer. not a laotop
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> MrPopinjay: unp is a terminal command. I also recommend you install p7zip-full and p7zip-rar
[18:41] <DarkStar1> dancek: Well I'll try
[18:41] <dancek> DarkStar1, if you have problems with that, then #mysql should be helpful
[18:42] <DarkStar1> dancek: lol... I know where this is going now :)
[18:43] <dancek> DarkStar1, i'd personally first try with the debian packages from http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/mysql BUT if that breaks you have absolutely nowhere to complain!
[18:43] <merk5> Hello, `make uninstall` command does not seem to work. How else do I remove the built module ?
[18:44] <dancek> DarkStar1, really situations like this suck as nobody wants to support what you need to do...
[18:44] <merk5> Because I'm trying to DKMS build it, and now it's saying I'm trying to install a version is not newer than the current, coz I rebuild with DKMS.
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> merk5:sudo make clean    possibly. Check your makefile
[18:44] <tahdahh> i need help,
[18:44] <DarkStar1> dancek: That's almost always been the wild west way of the open source wonderland ;)
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> tahdahh: ask away
[18:44] <tahdahh> can someONE HELP ME?
[18:45] <tahdahh> RIGHT
[18:45] <tahdahh> WELL
[18:45] <tahdahh> i have ubuntu okay
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> Kill the caps please
[18:45] <mickey1> merk5, sudo apt-get autoremove
[18:45] <tahdahh> i reall need to know
[18:45] <merk5> ActionParsnip: That's for cleaning the build, not uninstalling as I understand it. I'm not trying to clean the build,i'm trying to remove the module short of deleteing it from /lib/modules/2.6.38-12-generic/kernel/drivers/scsi/
[18:45] <dancek> tahdahh, please don't use newline as punctuation (ie. keep your question in one line)
[18:45] <afeijo> hi guys, how can I force a shell user to stay in his home dir only? to not let him cd to another dir?
[18:46] <merk5> mickey1: thanks, but I'm building from source
[18:46] <tahdahh> okay sorry, i have ubuntu okay and what i need to know is how do i download stuff normally on it and like use it, its really diffucult please help!
[18:46] <theadmin> afeijo: ACL, mostly
[18:47] <afeijo> theadmin, you mean, chown and chmod ?
[18:47] <dancek> merk5, generally with `make install` installations there's no other way to uninstall than to delete
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> tahdahh: download what exactly?
[18:47] <mickey1> merk5, so source package will flood inside the directory itself..try and delete it don't work and then auto..:)
[18:47] <theadmin> afeijo: No, I mean setfacl and getfacl
[18:47] <afeijo> oh
[18:47] <tahdahh> download just normal files, but how do i use them like i would normallu on ubuntu?
[18:48] <dancek> tahdahh, just use them normally. that normally works. (seriously, what kind of files?)
[18:48] <edbian> tahdahh, what's a normal file?
[18:48] <tahdahh> like do you know when it says run, save and that?
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> tahdahh: yes, you have a browser which acts like you expect in any OS, you have a file browser you can open files with
[18:48] <almoxarife> tahdahh: its not windows
[18:49] <merk5> dancek: Hmmm that's weird. I thought the opposite of `make install` is `make uninstall` and as long as you did not do a make clean, it will know where to delete the files.
[18:49] <edbian> tahdahh, choose what wnat
[18:49] <mickey1> merk5, can you share what are you trying to compile..
[18:49] <merk5> mickey1: I don't follow you
[18:49] <tahdahh> on windows, but how do i use it in ubuntu, cos when i download it i dont know where it goes or anything?
[18:49] <edbian> merk5, not all source code packages include an uninstall
[18:49] <theadmin> tahdahh: You can't use exes on Ubuntu -_-
[18:49] <merk5> mickey1:  I have compiled rts5139 driver successfully...
[18:49] <tahdahh> what is exes?
[18:49] <theadmin> tahdahh: exe files.
[18:50] <merk5> ok nevermind guys it looks like my DKMS  attempt was successful after all :D
[18:50] <tahdahh> im bloody 13 can you explain this a bit clearer!
[18:50] <edbian> tahdahh, files that end in .exe those are programs on windows
[18:50] <mickey1> merk5, yeh! good news, so its altered course for different package that i guess..
[18:50] <merk5> I just updated my kernel and it auto-compiled rts5139 so i guess it's working. Only way to find out now is to reboot and plug in a card :D woot!
[18:50] <tahdahh> okay thanks, so i cant use any of them, can i like change them or?
[18:50] <edbian> tahdahh, programs in windows are actually files that end in .exe  (the actual letters .exe are usually hidden in the name on windows)
[18:51] <SunTsu> tahdahh: you realize that this is _ubuntu_ support, right? You better go and grab a basic book on linux and all the principles behind it
[18:51] <almoxarife> tahdahh: no, can't like change them, like its not windows, like something else
[18:51] <scrote> moin
[18:51] <edbian> tahdahh, You might be able to use them with wine.  Usually it's easier to find an ubuntu app that does the same thing
[18:51] <tahdahh> yes i know this is support?
[18:51] <scrote> is it safe to run backtrack 5 as a corporate server?
[18:51] <theadmin> !bt | scrote
[18:51] <oCean> scrote: this channel does not support backtrack linux
[18:51] <theadmin> !backtrack | scrote
[18:51] <tahdahh> i have downloaded wine, but not too sure on how to use it
[18:51] <mickey1> dir *.h can revil then
[18:52] <theadmin> Someone should alias !bt to !backtrack...
[18:52] <theadmin> Not sure how to ask ubottu to do that
[18:52] <almoxarife> tahdahh: like google stuff about it
[18:52] <f0gn0l0> hello
[18:52] <merk5> Thanks for taking time to answer my  Q: dancek, mickey1, edbian, ActionParsnip. ;)
[18:52] <SunTsu> tahdahh: it's a ubuntu specific channel, your problems seem to be more general, it seems, that goes beyond the possibility of this channel
[18:52] <f0gn0l0> can someone suggest me an rpg style-game?
[18:52] <edbian> merk5, sure
[18:52] <scrote> sorry wrong distro.  Is it safe to run ubuntu as a server in IT Closets.
[18:52] <tahdahh> ok well thanks for attempting to help,
[18:53] <edbian> tahdahh, The way I know is to use the comand line
[18:53] <edbian> darnit
[18:53] <dancek> f0gn0l0, does nethack count?
[18:53] <almoxarife> like wow
[18:53] <mickey1> scrote, pleaes can you details
[18:53] <theadmin> f0gn0l0: Any MUD :P
[18:54] <MonkeyDust> f0gn0l0  i'm not a gamer, but start here http://users.skynet.be/gbachot/html/games.html
[18:54] <f0gn0l0> thanks for all the hints ^^
[18:54] <f0gn0l0> dancek, nethack was the first one i installed
[18:55] <mickey1> ! pm
[18:56] <ManDay> How can I configure GCC so that it searches for include and library paths in the respective x86_64-gnu-linux subdirectories of /usr/lib and /usr/include ?
[18:56] <annonymous> hello, can't access ubuntu samba share from windows 7. if i first access first from the linux box to windows than everything seems fine until reboot. how can i fix windows to see ubuntu on start. is it iptables, samba or windows bug?
[18:56] <ManDay> Why does Ubuntu not work normally with lib32 and lib64 directories? What is this nonsense with those x86_64-gnu-linux subdirectories good for?
[18:57] <scrote> mickey1: DNS, DHCP, LDAP, Web Server , pgsql,
[18:58] <mickey1> scrote, did some ask you about the servers..how many are they there are plenty more..
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> ManDay: if you are running a 32bit app under 64bit, you will need to grab the libs needed and put them in lib32 afaik
[18:59] <trism> ManDay: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultiarchSpec it is addressed in the design section
[19:00] <annonymous> why's ubuntu is invisible to windows 7? can only access by \\computer_name
[19:00] <MonkeyDust> ManDay  could it be a ia32-libs issue?
[19:00] <ManDay> MonkeyDust: Uhm, no? Why would it?
[19:00] <MonkeyDust> ok, just suggestiong
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> annonymous: if you run: sudo smbpasswd -a $USER    and set the password, you should now get challenged for authentication. Its not an iptables issue as the share does eventually work with no change to the rules
[19:01] <mickey1> annonymous, that nothing unsual..
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> annonymous: try mapping a network drive too, makes thingseasier
[19:03] <ManDay> ActionParsnip: ?
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> ManDay: what?
[19:03] <ManDay> ActionParsnip: I'm trying to get gcc to pick up libc's headers and libs, which it expects to be in the normal places. But I don't want to change my enviroment for that. I want it to usually account for ubuntus bizarre filelayout
[19:04] <jdavidboyd> ActionParsnip: still trying to research the wireless failures on my Acer netbook.  The cable works great, the wireless used to work, and then was intermittent for a while, now doesn't seem to work at all.   Boot into windows, works fine, so it's not hardware....
[19:04] <ManDay> Do you understand what I mean?
[19:04] <ssta> ManDay: gcc -I /path/to/libdir
[19:05] <mickey1> ManDay, that 's good point..but to save the time and headache i simply settle down the 32bit / instead 64bit in the end
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> ManDay: i see the aim, i haven't compiled since i stopped using gentoo which was ages ago
[19:05] <ManDay> ssta: ...
[19:06] <ManDay> ssta: I do *not* ("not!") want to do this.
[19:06] <ManDay> mickey1: What do you mean "settle down" ?
[19:06] <scrote> mickey1: I'll just take that as a no.
[19:06] <ssta> ManDay: what *do* you want to do then?
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> jdavidboyd: use the wire to get full updates, then run: sudo lshw -C network    to see the wifi chip and find guides
[19:07] <annonymous> ManDay, check ld.so.conf.d directory in etc i think it should already apear
[19:07] <ManDay> ssta: I don't know. I assume a compile time option or a configuration file, a wrapper, a clever way of symlinking things up...
[19:07] <ManDay> annonymous: That would only be LD. What about gcc as a whole?
[19:07] <ikonia> ManDay: what are you trying to do ?
[19:07] <mickey1> ManDay, i have a 64bit and got tired and re-instated 32 bit as 64 bit has to take more time to develope that i guess
[19:08] <ManDay> ikonia: Getting gcc to work "as usual" despite ubuntu's flavours to the filesystem
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> jdavidboyd: also run: sudo rfkill list     to see if the device is only software disabled, then you only need to use the switch or shortcut to enable wifi
[19:08] <ssta> ManDay: this is what autotools is for.  If you want to do it by hand, then use -Ifoo.  That's *exactly* how autotools does it
[19:08] <bf4648> can someone tell me what the {} brackets are doing in the following command line: find * -maxdepth 0 -name 'test_mp4s.zip' -prune -o -exec rm -f /var/www/test/*.zip '{}' ';''
[19:08] <mickey1> ! ask | scorote
[19:09] <ssta> ManDay: if you want you can symlink the lib and header diretories, but that's hacky
[19:09] <MonkeyDust> bf4648  these brackets are part of -exec
[19:09] <Pici> bf4648: they replace the filename that comes out of the find command. man find should you tell more.
[19:09] <ManDay> ssta: Gcc DOES HAVE a default include path. It's just wrong for ubuntu. Somehow, gcc-multilib makes up for that, but how...
[19:09] <Qualia> is there a channel to discuss politics ?
[19:09] <Qualia> or the death of North Korean leader ?
[19:09] <SunTsu> Qualia: ask alis
[19:09] <ManDay> Qualia: I guess you'd better be off at a forum. Discussing in IRC... well... you know...
[19:09] <Pici> !alis | Qualia
[19:09] <Qualia> whats wrong with IRC
[19:09] <ssta> ManDay: it does it by setting env variables, and tweaking include paths automagically
[19:09] <Qualia> lol
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> Qualia: #politics  maybe
[19:10] <ManDay> ssta: You sure of that, or are you just guessing?
[19:10] <ManDay> If you are right, then I guess there is no "better" method than that.
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> Qualia: not much wrong with irc really
[19:10] <ManDay> ActionParsnip: Oh, you reall should know better...
[19:10] <bf4648> thank you pici...so what does the command actually look like visually?  find * -maxdepth 0 -name {test_mp4.zip etc..}?
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> ManDay: how so?
[19:11] <Pici> bf4648: you already posted what it looks like.
[19:11] <ssta> ManDay: fairly sure.  You set MULTILIB_OPTIONS to some magic (google for the magic, I don't remember) in the Makefile...basically you do this with makefiles, you don't compile anything but the most trivial one-liners from the command line
[19:11] <bf4648> Pici...I'm just talking about pseudo code so I can understand what the find command is actually doing
[19:11] <ManDay> ActionParsnip: Discussing polictics in the first place is a magical topic. Discussing politics on the internet? Even worse. But.. ON IRC? Unthinkable.
[19:11] <ssta> this is what make was invented for.  Automake does much of it for you
[19:12] <bf4648> What I'm trying to do is delete everything in a folder except 1 certain file
[19:12] <Pici> ManDay: ActionParsnip: This is not the place to discuss whether IRC is a good conversationmedium.
[19:12] <ikonia> ManDay: what are you talking about, gcc works fine on ubuntu
[19:12] <bf4648> I deleted everything in my home directory
[19:12] <ManDay> MULTILIB_OPTIONS?! Never heard of. But I personally don't feel bad for my lack of knowledge on autofools
[19:12] <ikonia> ManDay: why don't you really explain the problem
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> ManDay: its an interesting topic and people coming together to discuss and exchange ideas is healthy
[19:12] <ManDay> ikonia: I'm talking about a custom built gcc-4.3.6
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> Pici: gotcha
[19:13] <bf4648> any idea how I could do that?
[19:13] <ikonia> ManDay: ok - so why are you moaning about your custom built gcc, thats your build
[19:13] <ManDay> ikonia: ... You know
[19:13] <SunTsu> bf4648: there's lots of ways. For instance ls | grep $fileyouwanttokeep| xargs rm
[19:13] <ssta> ManDay: you can set the default include directories when you're building gcc
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> bf4648: copy the file out, delete the lot then move the file back in
[19:13] <ikonia> ManDay: no, I don't, that's why I'm trying to understand what you are complaining about to assist you resolve it
[19:13] <SunTsu> er grep -v of course
[19:14] <ManDay> *normally* gcc will not require special help for finding libc files in the *standard* places.
[19:14] <bf4648> what is xargs?
[19:14] <ikonia> ManDay: if it's built correctly it won't
[19:14] <ManDay> ikonia: Premature return
[19:14] <ManDay> ikonia: Help me out there, what do you mean by "built correctly"?
[19:14] <ikonia> ManDay: if you included the search paths correctly in the spec file, it will search where you've told it to
[19:14] <ssta> ManDay: if you build it like that, it Just Works
[19:14] <SunTsu> bf4648: what the man page tells it is ;) It takes stuff from stdin and feeds it as cli arguments to the command you provide
[19:14] <ManDay> The closest to an option which dicates standard search paths I came is "--with-sysdir" which won't do ubuntu right
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> bf4648: my method is easier to understand, if a bit primitive
[19:15] <ManDay> ikonia: The "spec file" is that a thing with compiling gcc?
[19:15] <ikonia> ManDay: ubuntu won't do right ??? what are you talking about it's YOUR build
[19:15] <ssta> ManDay: the output of gcc --print-search-dirs for a "standard ubuntu build" of gcc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/775595/
[19:15] <SunTsu> yeah, ActionParsnip's method might be preferable to mine, I gues
[19:15] <ManDay> ikonia: *IT* wont do ubuntu right
[19:15] <SunTsu> guess even
[19:15] <ManDay> Forgive me my grammer
[19:15] <ssta> the ubuntu build *does* do it right
[19:15] <ikonia> ManDay: becuase YOU have built it wrong
[19:16] <ManDay> ikonia: I got that claim the first two times you uttered it. Hence I'm asking you what I would have to do better
[19:16] <ikonia> ManDay: why did you do a custom gcc build ? what's the issue with gcc in ubuntu
[19:16] <bf4648> well, it beats deleting everything in your home directory....I could have really screwed up my computer
[19:16] <ikonia> ManDay: (or what's the end goal)
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> SunTsu: yours is actually what is asked for though :-). Nice bashfu
[19:16] <ManDay> ikonia: I needed 4.3.6
[19:16] <ikonia> why ?
[19:16] <ManDay> Does it matter?
[19:16] <ikonia> ManDay: yes
[19:16] <ManDay> Because another software expects it.
[19:16] <ikonia> expects or needs ?
[19:16] <ssta> ManDay: you either build gcc correctly, or you use -Ifoo to set search dirs once, of you use a spec file to do it many times...
[19:17] <ikonia> actually, I can't be bothered begging for information, good luck
[19:17] <ManDay> ikonia: Can you please stop from straying off miles from the issue I'm having? You just said you knew how to built gcc in a way that it finds the files without further messing. What would that be, please?
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Aww I just got popcorn too
[19:17] <ssta> gcc doesn't "just work".  It's a compiler.  It's assumed that you know how to drive it if you want to use it outside of the default parameters...and especially if you build your own
[19:18] <ManDay> ActionParsnip: I hope you're getting well entertained...
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> Very
[19:18] <almoxarife> ManDay: do you have a question specific to ubuntu?
[19:19] <bf4648> ls | grep mp4s.zip | xargs rm *.zip is deleting all the files
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> !rootirc | Guest25613
[19:20] <annonymous> didn't ia32-libs became obsolete on 11.1?
[19:20] <mickey1> ActionParsnip, a new user will understand..but is problem ??
[19:20] <Ampelbein> annonymous: Nope, 12.04 will be the first release without it
[19:21] <annonymous> does anyone has a clue why ubuntu share is invisible to windows 7 64bit? (becomes visible after i access windows from ubuntu first)
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> Mickey1: is what a problem?
[19:21] <ManDay> almoxarife: Obviously, I have.
[19:21] <jdavidboyd> ActionParsnip: everything looks ok, and the systems reports that it works fine.  Although it does say that I have a 135 Mb/s connection, which I know is wrong.  I can't ping from it, or to it, and connect to anything.  Looks like a firewall blocking everything, but I haven't installed one.
[19:21] <overdub> bf4648: ls might list more than one file on a line
[19:22] <genii-around> annonymous: The trailing zero on 11.10 is pertinent, the 10 means the tenth month, October... not a one which would make it January
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> annonymous: is the ubuntu hostname pingable from windows
[19:22] <ManDay> ikonia: Anything? You can't just make a claim "I configured gcc wrongly" and not prove it. Especially after ssta clearly stated otherwise.
[19:22] <bucky> ManDay, if you just want to install an rpm into ubuntu use alien to create a deb and see if it works, if not remove it and try something else
[19:22] <Pici> overdub: not if you're piping it into something else.
[19:22] <overdub> bf4648: use ls -1 for each file on a separate line, or better still use find
[19:22] <almoxarife> ManDay: do you have a question specific to ubuntu?
[19:22] <bf4648> alright....I can't figure this out ...I'm really trying
[19:22] <ManDay> almoxarife: Can you perhaps shut up?
[19:22] <Monsanto> Anyone try this unit http://www.amazon.com/Alfa-Waterproof-wireless-Integrated-ALFAUBDOGT12/dp/B0039KQFVQ/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
[19:22] <Monsanto> ?
[19:22] <ikonia> ManDay: tone it down
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> jdavidboyd: can you ping your routers internal ip? Can you ping 8.8.8.8?
[19:23] <ssta> ManDay: when you built your gcc, did you try ./configure --help?  If you didn't I suggest you do.  That's my last word on this subject...
[19:23] <Pici> bf4648: The folks and the topic in #bash may prove especially useful.
[19:23] <annonymous> ActionParsnip, it doesn't seems to help, sometimes windows doesn't even finds it. workgroup is set correct. can access from windows until another computer joins and after that i need to access from linux to windows for it to work normally
[19:23] <mickey1> ActionParsnip, think at the prospect of new-un familiar to ubuntu simply shutting them down like this is irrelevent
[19:23] <annonymous> ActionParsnip, other computer is vista
[19:23] <ManDay> ikonia: I'm still waiting for your reply.
[19:23] <paulo_gomes> hi all
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> mickey1: shutting what down?
[19:23] <ikonia> ManDay: I said, I'm not bothered, I can't be bothered if I have to beg you for information surrounding your problem, good luck
[19:23] <ManDay> ssta: I configured gcc as well as I could and I found no such as option as ikonia suggest it
[19:24] <ikonia> I didn't say there was any option
[19:24] <MonkeyDust> ManDay  maybe your question is beyond this channel
[19:24] <Ampelbein> ManDay: Did you find http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/precise/gcc-4.6/precise/view/head:/debian/patches/gcc-multiarch.diff ? It's the actual multiarch patch applied in ubuntu.
[19:24] <iToast> Can i get a guide to setup samba on ubuntu
[19:24] <ManDay> ikonia: That's really a poor excuse. As if it mattered *why* I need gcc-4.3.6 for *how* to configure it in the manner you claim to know.
[19:24] <ikonia> Ampelbein: you can't use that
[19:24] <iToast> One that is clear. not "DO THIS DO THAT THEN THIS THAT THIS THIS THAT"
[19:24] <ikonia> Ampelbein: don't suggest people pull down different version software
[19:24] <almoxarife> ManDay: do you have a question specific to ubuntu?
[19:24] <iToast> I can't find a single clear samba guide.
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> Itoast: on desktop or server?
[19:25] <sskalnik> iToast:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba
[19:25] <iToast> Server
[19:25] <ManDay> ikonia: At least you said that I configured it wrongly.
[19:25] <ikonia> !samba > iToast
[19:25] <iToast> sskalnik: That wasen't clear.
[19:25] <ManDay> (or built, for that matter)
[19:25] <html> ftp ... can i back data up  dircetly to a computer over the internet
[19:25] <MonkeyDust> html  use ssh
[19:25] <Ampelbein> ikonia: He wanted to know how Ubuntu does the multiarch gcc, and that is how it's done. Of course it can't be applied directly but it gives him the idea how it is implemented.
[19:25] <ikonia> html: sure, just ftp what you want to backup to a remove location
[19:25] <paulo_gomes> how do i disable startup applications that dont show on the startup applications gui?
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> Itoast: install the samba package then edit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[19:26] <ikonia> Ampelbein: not really as he doesn't appear to be aware of the basics so package from a different version won't really show him that
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> Itoast: ill pastebin my file for you
[19:26] <bucky> ManDay, is this in oneiric? there's a ppa for 4.3.6
[19:26] <ManDay> bucky: Yes, 4.3.6 indeed
[19:26] <sskalnik> iToast:  What specific issue are you encountering? General questions beget general answers. (No snark intended; just not sure how to help sans more info)
[19:26] <konrad__> siema
[19:26] <ManDay> Do you happen to have the link bucky ?
[19:27] <bucky> ManDay,  which version of ubuntu do you have?
[19:27] <ManDay> oneiric
[19:27] <html> MonkeyDust,  ikonia   filezilla would this work?
[19:27] <ssta> ManDay: http://paste.ubuntu.com/775604/  (lines 25 to 53 are interesting).  Also grab the source package for gcc in ubuntu and have a look at how it builds (although I'll admit, it's not the easiesty build system in the world to follow)
[19:27] <bucky> ManDay,  https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/ppa/+build/2837243
[19:27] <mickey1> iToast, there are plenty in the torrent..its not only samba..
[19:27] <ManDay> thank you bucky - I'll have a look!
[19:27] <bucky> yup
[19:28] <ManDay> ssta: Sorry man but you are completely wrong there.
[19:28] <ManDay> This has nothing to do with the issue.
[19:28] <ManDay> These are the install target dirs
[19:28] <annonymous> Ampelbein, thx for the correction
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> Itoast: http://paste.ubuntu.com/775609
[19:29] <jita> My ubuntu 11.10 hung, i rebooted, now the icons and windows are as such they are from windows 95
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> Itoast: i defined shares at the bottom of the file. I also use: sudo smbpasswd -a andy      so I can authenticate to my shares
[19:31] <bf4648> how do you pipe to a cd command ?  cd /var/www/test | find * -maxdepth ..etc. ?
[19:31] <mickey1> ActionParsnip, he's gone..asleep and even if reads gone for 2days
[19:31] <RayzrShrp> am i correct in saying there is no way to hide my hostname/ip information on irc?
[19:31] <ikonia> bf4648: you don't pipe a "cd" command
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> Damn. Oh well
[19:32] <urlin2u> RayzrShrp, no
[19:32] <bf4648> well, the following command works perfectly as long as I'm @ /var/www/test: find * -maxdepth 0 -name 'foo.2.zip' -prune -o -exec rm -f /var/www/test/*.zip '{}' ';'
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> bf4648: change the * for the folder and get rid of the cd command
[19:32] <RayzrShrp> urlin2u: so there is a way to do it?
[19:33] <bucky> mickey1, cd /var/www/test && find * -maxdepth
[19:33] <iToast> ActionParsnip: Ok
[19:33] <ikonia> bf4648: ok, so do find /var/www/test -maxdepth...blah
[19:33] <ikonia> bf4648: specify the path in the find command
[19:33] <bf4648> oh my goodness..I can't believe I'm so stupid
[19:33] <iToast> Ughm, can you edit it so anyone without a login can access /public_share
[19:33] <iToast> Public share is in root.
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> Itoast: restart smbd service to apply changes
[19:33] <iToast> Its this or i get FreeNAS
[19:33] <urlin2u> RayzrShrp, it's not showing now.
[19:34] <owenll> RayzrShrp: use Tor http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0Rk8JvQswM
[19:34] <RayzrShrp> urlin2u: yeah I got it on here but what about on say DALnet
[19:34] <jdavidboyd> ActionParsnip: can't ping either.  But I can ping localhost
[19:34] <iToast> ActionParsnip: Can anyone access it without a login
[19:34] <Pici> !cloak | RayzrShrp
[19:34] <urlin2u> RayzrShrp, this is freenode and that's all I know.
[19:35] <RayzrShrp> urlin2u: ok so this is configured differently based on the irc network
[19:35] <paulo_gomes> to stop a service per user, i see some links in ~/.config/autostart. Do i have to make the links manualy, or is there some command to make them automaticly?
[19:35] <iToast> ActionParsnip: you there
[19:35] <Pici> RayzrShrp: This is #ubuntu. Not dalnet support.
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> Itoast: if you make and smbpasswd and give them it and smb.conf says they have write access, it should be ok
[19:35] <trece8> hi. How do I set up the VESA driver to be used as standard, in ubuntu 10.04.3?
[19:35] <urlin2u> RayzrShrp, probably not sure this is the ubuntu channel so I answered assuming you meant freenode.
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> Itoast: patience child, jesus
[19:36] <d1g1ta1> Is there a Linux boot floppy that supports external USB DVD drives?
[19:36] <RayzrShrp> urlin2u: ok thanks
[19:36] <iToast> ActionParsnip: I could run freenas in a headless vm.
[19:36] <iToast> Mount a eHDD to freenas
[19:37] <ManDay> ssta: At least there is no wrapper arround gcc-4.6 - So I don't see who would be setting those variables you mentioned
[19:38] <ssta> ManDay: get the debian/ubuntu source package.  They're set in debian/rules2 (of course, it's not an easy read)
[19:38] <sskalnik> iToast:  You might enjoy FreeNAS. I used it in the past with few issues. It is probably a good idea to keep services on separate machines/VMs when feasible, so you might give it a go if you're already considering it.
[19:38] <ssta> ManDay: they're build time variable, when you're comopiling gcc
[19:39] <iToast> I had freenas.
[19:39] <trece8> Hi. How do I set up VESA driver as default in ubuntu 10.04.3? (Sorry, pidgin crashed)
[19:41] <ManDay> ssta: WHICH ones
[19:41] <mickey1> bucky, ! pm
[19:41] <ManDay> ssta: I've been searching them all over the place!
[19:41] <ManDay> Which built time variables are it?
[19:42] <usr13> trece8: Was the VESA driver being used before you installed proprietary driver?
[19:42] <usr13> trece8: If so:  sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:42] <trece8> I didn't install propietary drivers, the standard driver (it's a new installation) crashes the PC at some point
[19:42] <trece8> I actually made a xorg.conf so the standard driver wouldn't be used
[19:43] <usr13> trece8: How do you know it's the video driver that chashes the PC?
[19:43] <trece8> I made a xorg.conf file putting it to work as VESA
[19:43] <trece8> ubuntu started in 'low graphics mode' and it didn't crash.
[19:44] <usr13> trece8: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:44] <mickey1> trece8,  ! blacklist
[19:44] <trece8> mickey1: ?
[19:44] <trece8> usr13: I actually had no xorg.conf there, So I made one
[19:44] <Pici> mickey1: If you're trying to use the bot. its !factoid | user
[19:44] <usr13> !blacklist
[19:44] <trece8> It crashed when no xorg.conf was there
[19:44] <mickey1> Pici, ok..
[19:44] <trece8> So if I erase it, I would be in step 0
[19:45] <trece8> mickey1: I think you are offtopic
[19:45] <Pici> trece8: so if it worked when you set vesa manually, what is the problem.
[19:45] <usr13> trece8: Driver      "vesa"
[19:45] <trece8> Anyway. No other idea than to erase xorg.conf and get back to where it was when it crashed?
[19:45] <usr13> trece8: Let's start over.  Please ask question again.
[19:45] <trece8> Pici, setting it up manually gives me a 'ubuntu is starting in low resolution mode' screen at startup, that's the issue.
[19:46] <trece8> Hi. How do I set up VESA driver as default in ubuntu 10.04.3?
[19:46] <trece8> That's the original question.
[19:46] <usr13> trece8: What is your video card?
[19:46] <Jay_Levitt> How do I add the "proposed" apt repository to oneiric from the command line?
[19:47] <usr13> trece8: And the answer to your original question is to see that the line     Driver  "vesa"   is there.
[19:47] <trece8> usr13: It's and onboard Intel 82945G/G2
[19:47] <trece8> usr13: It is there. I put it there.
[19:47] <tomasm-> hi, i have 11.10 and i installed gnome classic and am having trouble finding the dictionary applet .... it's just not in the list of available applets... is it just for gnome 3? or does it work for gnome classic too?
[19:47] <usr13> trece8: Ubuntu version?
[19:47] <trece8> But ubuntu starts with a warning
[19:47] <trece8> usr13: check the original question: 10.04.3
[19:48] <BluesKaj> Jay_Levitt, which  "proposed" apt repository?
[19:48] <usr13> trece8: Fully updated?
[19:48] <trece8> yes
[19:48] <Jay_Levitt> BluesKaj: Good question.. whichever one this package is in! https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/postgresql-9.1/9.1.2-0ubuntu0.11.10.1
[19:49] <trism> Jay_Levitt: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed
[19:49] <ManDay> ssta: I cannot find debian/rules2 - where is that file supposed to be?
[19:51] <usr13> trece8: Have you started without /etc/X11/xorg.conf since getting the system fully updated?
[19:51] <trece8> yes
[19:51] <usr13> trece8: You can just move it. sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[19:51] <trece8> I know
[19:51] <trece8> But there would be the same situation as when it crashed.
[19:52] <trece8> not having a xorg.conf
[19:52] <usr13> trece8: And when you boot to it, after a bit, does it ask if you want to install additional driver?
[19:52] <trece8> no
[19:52] <BluesKaj> Jay_Levitt, try this , sudo apt-add-repository ppa:oneiric-proposed-ppa
[19:52] <usr13> trece8: Just a sec...
[19:52] <trece8> I'm trying things at the moment, anyway.
[19:53] <DeltaEpsilon> hi
[19:53] <stowoda> hi
[19:53] <bucky> ManDay, did that ppa work out for you?
[19:53] <stowoda> What does that mean: Then put it in a handy bin/ directory (like /usr/local/bin) and set it as the handler for "application/ms-tnef" MIME content.
[19:53] <stowoda> set it as the handler for..
[19:53] <stowoda> how to do that?
[19:53] <anli__> When I try to install php5-sqlite, I get the error message "php5-sqlite: Depends: php5-common (=5.3.5-1ubuntu7) but 5.3.5-1ubuntu7.2 is to be installed"
[19:54] <anli__> There seems to be no way out of getting that error message
[19:54] <usr13> trece8: Try   Driver "intel"
[19:54] <anli__> So what should I try?
[19:54] <usr13> trece8: Change    Driver  "vesa"    to      Driver   "intel"
[19:55] <trece8> ok
[19:55] <usr13> in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:55] <Ampelbein> anli__: What release? And what does 'apt-cache policy php5-sqlite' say?
[19:55] <usr13> let us know...
[19:55] <ManDay> bucky: Haven't tried yet. I'm not running Ubuntu atm, the whole sitatuion is a little complicated. I'll try it out, though.
[19:56] <bucky> ManDay, because there's an i386 version too if you need it - google it
[19:56] <ManDay> I would still have liked to investiate ikonia's and ssta's claims. But apparently, both parties have dropped out before I could find anything supporting their claims.
[19:57] <bucky> ManDay, don't get me in trouble with the 'gods'
[19:57] <ManDay> Of course not ;)
[19:57] <trece8>  usr13: Testing that at the moment.
[19:58] <bucky> ManDay, if you drop into the build dir and dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc I think it might do the trick
[19:58] <Ampelbein> ManDay: Like I said, multiarch is applied as a patch to the gcc archive. You can get inspriation by looking at the 4.6 one and (given you have experience working with gcc) may be able to adapt it for 4.3. But surely it's easier to just fix the application to compile with 4.6?
[19:58] <ManDay> Hm? Why should I not simply get the binary package provided by the ppa?
[19:58] <bucky> ManDay, debian/ubuntu build system is complicated... look it up
[19:58] <BluesKaj> bucky, they're mere mortals like the rest of us , with somewhat more knowledge :)
[19:59] <ssta> who's a god?
[19:59] <ManDay> Ampelbein: I did not read you say that. Sorry. However, it surely explains why I can't find any wrapper or config scripts, nor configure options.
[19:59] <bucky>  ManDay you should whenever possible but your ubuntu version and the arch should match
[19:59] <BluesKaj> ssta, , nobody here
[19:59] <ManDay> bucky: My arch is amd64
[20:00] <DeltaEpsilon> !cload
[20:00] <trece8> usr13: tried that. It hangs the same.
[20:00] <ManDay> Blasphemy!
[20:00] <DeltaEpsilon> !claod
[20:00] <bucky> claod ?
[20:00] <DeltaEpsilon> !cloud
[20:00] <ManDay> He is trying to hit the "cloak" button
[20:00] <usr13> trece8: So what happens when you change back to vesa ?
[20:00] <bucky> lol
[20:00] <trece8> usr13: I'm changing back to vesa now.
[20:01] <dood> Hi.  I'm having a HECK of a time getting my LTSP server going.   I have gotten DCHP working and the ltsp server installed.   On my clients when they connect they get a dhcp ip address from the server, and start loading pxelinux.0 .  On the clients I see the UBUNTU loader logo come up for about 10 seconds, then it drops to a busybox!!!  Arg.  So frustrated.  Any pointers?  I'm wondering if it is a permission issue to allow client
[20:01] <dood> s to connect somewhere on the server.    Thanks in advance.
[20:01] <Plouj-> hi
[20:01] <DarkStar1> Anyone know if the mysql version for 10.10 is different to 11.10 (the default that's shipped/installed)
[20:01] <Plouj-> what package has the manpage for pthread_setmask ?
[20:01] <usr13> trece8: "Low Graphics Mode"?
[20:01] <usr13> or....?
[20:01] <tag> On a MacBook Pro 8,2, I'm unable to boot the live-cd.  initramvfs is erroring regarding partition
[20:01] <tag> regarding trying to find a partition, whatever
[20:01] <DarkStar1> tag: save yourself the headache and use virtualbox
[20:02] <tag> :-(
[20:02] <tag> I don't f'ing want macos
[20:02] <bean> dood, it probably can't find the correct file that it's looking for. I'd check the logs on the server.
[20:02] <trece8> usr13: Gets back to "ubuntu is running on low-graphics mode"
[20:03] <usr13> trece8: xrandr | pastebinit
[20:03] <trece8> Error: "(EE) VESA: Kernel modesetting driver in use, refusing to load ; (EE) No devices detected."
[20:03] <DarkStar1> tag:  I didn't at first but it's grown on me :) in anycase I tried and tried and just when I was about to give up......;
[20:03] <dood> bean: where are the logs kept in 11.10?  (Just converted to Ubuntu from another flavor)
[20:03] <sskalnik> dood:  Typically /var/log/
[20:03] <ssta> dood: /var/log usually
[20:04] <tag> I've installed ubuntu on a mac before...according to the wiki it's relatively well supported (this particular mac)
[20:04] <DarkStar1> tag I tried again! End result was I got no nowhere so I just v boxed it and no issues since
[20:04] <trece8> usr13: xrandr: can't open display
[20:04] <dood> Okay will check the logs.
[20:05] <phil_phys> dear friends
[20:05] <html> how do i set up filezilla?
[20:06] <phil_phys> i have two partition how can I add the space from one partition to another without losing my data
[20:06] <phil_phys> ?
[20:06] <phil_phys> can you help me?
[20:06] <usr13> trece8: Does the prompt have a $   or a   # ?
[20:07] <trece8> $
[20:07] <urlin2u> phil_phys, you can shrink and exspand partitions yes.
[20:07] <jutnux> phil_phys, use gedit.
[20:07] <jutnux> gparted*
[20:07] <jutnux> damnit.
[20:07] <rakiru> hi, how do i get to items that were previously in the System > Administration menu?
[20:07] <usr13> xrandr can't open display?  Not sure I understand ...
[20:07] <rakiru> specifically the device drivers thing
[20:07] <rakiru> hardware drivers* rather
[20:08] <The_BROS> Can anybody help me? How to convert .flv file to .avi file? Thanks.
[20:08] <urlin2u> phil_phys, these two must be side by side though for what you describe, unless you want to resize any between.
[20:08] <trece8> usr13: I run xrandr. It yields "can't open display" as output
[20:08] <ssta> The_BROS: ffmpeg
[20:08] <usr13> trece8: This is a laptop, right?  What is make and model?
[20:08] <trece8> usr13: It's a desktop
 is it convertor?
[20:08] <trece8> It's an intel motherboard
[20:09] <ssta> The_BROS: yes
[20:09] <phil_phys> urlin2: How can I expand the partiton without losing my data?
[20:09] <usr13> trece8: Ok, well, we must be missing something here.  Tell me more.  What monitor?  Using a KVM?  ANything else we should know.
[20:09] <usr13> ?
[20:09] <trece8> using a KVM, tried different monitors.
[20:09] <trece8> It's a CRT monitor, studioworks 441, at the moment
[20:10] <trece8> the computer hangs with the mouse frozen, and can't go to the ctrl-alt-fN consoles.
[20:10] <trece8> when using not the VESA driver
[20:10] <BluesKaj> The_BROS, in the terminal , ffmpeg -i pathtofile.flv file.avi , the avi file will be created in the same dir
[20:10] <trece8> Anyway, I'd be happy with using the VESA driver, but not with warnings about graphics mode at startup
 Is any tool with GUI, cause I am not an experienced user
[20:12] <jfwalsh> this is my first time logging in
[20:12] <urlin2u> phil_phys, use the tab key to complete nics, it will show as colored like this one to you. Gparted will expand and shrink partitions without deleting, the drill is you back it up first, really you should have everything backed up.
[20:12] <bf4648> Alright, I give up....I can't get my command line to work...I'm trying to remove every zip except the file that I find using the following command line: find /var/www/its/tmp/ -maxdepth 0 -name test_mp4s.zip -prune -exec rm -f /var/www/its/*.zip '{}' ';'
[20:12] <bf4648> This just removes every .zip file
[20:12] <josiah216> can I have some help with a fresh 11.10 install? Wireless and tumbdrive not working
[20:12] <oCean> hi jfwalsh, welcome to #ubuntu
[20:12] <rakiru> anyone able to help me?
[20:13] <html> jfwalsh,  hi  welcome to the ubuntu channel
[20:13] <urlin2u> phil_phys, I suggest the backup for safety, a cheap free insurance .
[20:13] <phil_phys> the problem is that i don't have an external hard disk
[20:13] <jfwalsh> I am having difficulty getting a usb hard drive to mount
[20:13] <BluesKaj> The_BROS, there are but they are clunky and don't work as well IMO ,  look at the path in the addressbar in nautilus where the file is located and copy that to the terminal , it's really quite simple
[20:13] <ssta> bf4648: there's a lot of ways to do it.  Maybe the easiest to follow: ls /path | grep -v test.zip | xargs rm
[20:14] <cyclicflux> Whats happening all!!!
[20:14] <cyclicflux> I just had the weirdest thing in the world happen, & its really strange.
[20:14] <josiah216> jfwalsh I'm having the same trouble
[20:14] <html> rakiru,   please say what you want help "witH your question
[20:14] <rakiru> i have
[20:15] <jfwalsh> I tried gpart but the scan disk takes days
[20:15] <rakiru> no-one responded, so i thought people probably missed it
[20:15] <ssta> bf4648: umm, ls /path/*.zip
[20:15] <ssta> sorry
[20:15] <rakiru> hi, how do i get to items that were previously in the System > Administration menu? specifically the hardware drivers thing
[20:15] <BluesKaj> The_BROS, then put ffmpeg -i in front and call output avi file whatyou want  with .avi at the end of the name
[20:15] <rakiru> i said that ^
[20:15] <usr13> trece8: Bypass the KVM
[20:15] <bullgard4> In Ubuntu 10.04.3 there is a file /usr/share/app-install/desktop/conduit.desktop. In Ubuntu 11.10 this file is named /usr/share/app-install/desktop/conduit:conduit.desktop. What is the reason for this change of name?
[20:15] <trece8> usr13: I had the same problem without a KVM
[20:15] <html> josiah216, jfwalsh  did you see if its a common problem? also did you search the net ?
[20:15] <trece8> so, I already did that.
 How will be a command if I put folder into Home folder or how can I find adress in Nautilus?
[20:16] <usr13> trece8:   and    xrandr   does not run?
[20:16] <trece8> didn't try xrandr at that time, I will do it now
[20:16] <cyclicflux> I literally just got a Motorola Xoom a few days ago, and placed it on my desk near my monitor 'Dell ST2010 25"', and then the monitor turned a deep red, and then it was frozen(the PC=fine).  However, it appears that my monitor is now a tint of blue(turned to blue after restarting it).
[20:16] <usr13> trece8: xrandr   does not give a list of screen sizes available?
[20:16] <bf4648> ssta...thanks I'm working on your command line now to see if it works
[20:16] <cyclicflux> Has anyone ever heard or seen something like this happen??
[20:16] <josiah216> html: I've searched Google for quite a bit and haven't found a solution
[20:16] <oCean> cyclicflux: do you have an #ubuntu question?
[20:17] <ironfoot495> HI is there someone who could help me reconstruct a website. I have the website written in mac but I'm using a win7 to upload the file to a ubuntu 10.04 server.
[20:17] <cyclicflux> FYI: I checked my evdev.conf, & x display-settings(10-display.conf) as well
[20:17] <cyclicflux> I am using Ubuntu
[20:17] <cyclicflux> lol!!!
[20:17] <cyclicflux> I didn't really know where to go with this
[20:17] <josiah216> i plug in my thumbdrive and the light blinks, however it isn't mounted. Nothing shows up in /media either
[20:17] <oCean> cyclicflux: maybe try channel ##hardware
[20:18] <usr13> trece8: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log  #And send resulting URL
 Oh. I see it in file properties (file path)
[20:18] <cyclicflux> oCean:sounds good
[20:18] <jfwalsh> i will see if it is a common problem; my situation is a bit unique. originally, the external hardrive had linux on it complete with all file systems, the laptop had windows. I got rid of windows for good, loaded the latest linux; am trying to native linux to recognize the files in the old linux. code errors are numerous.
[20:18] <cyclicflux> oCean:thanks
[20:18] <BluesKaj> The_BROS, right ")
[20:18] <urlin2u> josiah216, do you have another computer say one running windows to try and fix the thumb?
[20:18] <bf4648> ssta...I'm getting rm: cannot remove : no such file or directory
[20:18] <oCean> cyclicflux: you're welcome
[20:19] <html> josiah216,  ten post your problem on ubuntu help forms / fill out a form so other can see its a common problem if they too have it
[20:19] <josiah216> urlin2u: the thumb drive works fine on windows and 11.04. absolutely nothing mounts with 11.10
 Thanx. I will try). Can it work with any formats?
[20:19] <ssta> bf4648: do each part of the pipe seperately.  Start with: ls /path/*.zip.  Does that list all the zips?
[20:19] <BluesKaj> yes The_BROS
[20:19] <maujhsn> urlin2u How are you doing these days!
[20:19] <urlin2u> josiah216, reformat it in windows it should work.
[20:19] <bf4648> yes it does
[20:19] <urlin2u> maujhsn, fine
[20:19] <oCean> bf4648: what about  find . -type f -name "*.zip" | grep -v donotremovethisfile.zip | xargs ls  this should list all the files. Replace ls by rm to remove
[20:20] <trece8> usr13: didn't work anyway
[20:20] <oCean> bf4648: the  find .  meaning start from the current directory all the way down
[20:20] <ssta> bf4648: okay, now ls /path/*.zip | grep -v oneToKeep.zip (the -v says "print everything EXCEPT that one")
[20:20] <josiah216> it works fine everywhere else, but not 11.10. why should I format it?
[20:20] <trece8> tried with intel and vesa drivers, and still can't open display is the output of xrandr
[20:21] <Peyam_> hi
[20:21] <ssta> oCean: he wasnted maxdepth 0, so I thought ls was simpler for him to follow
[20:21] <Peyam_> Have av issue with hdmi cable. please help someone
[20:21] <urlin2u> josiah216, there are no bugs as far as I know with usb mounting in oneiric, it sounds like a little to much tweaking or a bad install who knows really.
[20:21] <oCean> ssta: I agree, there are many options to do this
[20:21] <ssta> indeed
[20:21] <oCean> Peyam_: just state your issue (detailed, single line) in the channel
[20:21] <jutnux> !ask | Peyam_
[20:21] <bf4648> ls /var/www/its/tmp/*.zip | grep -v test.zip just lists all the zip files in the directory
[20:21] <josiah216> I've installed 11.10 twice. Both times with wireless and usb troubles
[20:21] <ssta> bf4648: including the one you want to keep?
[20:21] <oCean> bf4648: except test.zip
[20:22] <maujhsn> Does anyone know if Debian Live have its own IRC channel?
[20:22] <usr13> trece8: What didn't work?
[20:22] <geoffmcc> josiah216: please explain further, if someone can help they will
[20:22] <usr13> trece8: What did  xrandr say?
[20:22] <josiah216> I'm trying to install the drivers for my broken wireless, but can't because I cant transfer the files
[20:22] <Peyam_> I have a stationary computer which I connected to my LCD tv. Ubuntu works fine with VGA but not with a hdmi cable. What do I do?. Ive searching alot but nothing works actully
[20:22] <urlin2u> josiah216, if the thumb has a broken partition table reformatting would fix that, I wouldn't discount it due to the thumb working on other OS's
[20:22] <bf4648> Yup, test.zip (the one I want to keep) isn't in the list
[20:22] <geoffmcc> josiah216: what type of wireless card?
[20:22] <trece8> usr13: same as before:  Can't open display
[20:23] <ssta> bf4648: okay, so add "|xargs rm" to the command, and that should delete the rest of them
[20:23] <josiah216> geoffmcc: this car: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833315041
[20:23] <josiah216> *card
[20:23] <BluesKaj> The_BROS, btw this site is very useful  http://www.wikihow.com/Use-FFmpeg
[20:23] <usr13> trece8: I really don't understand.  There is something fundamentally wrong and I do not know what it is.  Sorry, can't help you.
[20:23] <josiah216> I have the linux drivers and I'm ready to install, but I can't transfer them due to a usb error
[20:23] <trece8> usr13: It's ok, thanks anyway.
[20:24] <rakiru> restating my question as no-one has even acknowledged it yet:
[20:24] <urlin2u> maujhsn, not sure about Debain live but the #debian channel has 1000 people on it.
[20:24] <Guest92135> what?
[20:25] <bf4648> Alright, the following command line keeps giving me " rm: can not remove /var/www/its/tmp/other_tests.zip : no such file or directory
[20:25] <Peyam_> anybody?
[20:25] <maujhsn> urlin2u thanks for the info!
[20:25] <incorrect> how can i change the window manager to being mutter?
[20:25] <urlin2u> maujhsn, no problem I didn't know they had a channel my self.
[20:25] <rakiru> how do i get to the System > Administration > Hardware Drivers screen in Unity?
[20:26] <bean> bf4648: because that file doesn't exist...
[20:26] <sskalnik> bf4648:  file doesn't exist then
[20:26] <urlin2u> incorrect, install gnome 3 it uses mutter unity you can't I believe
[20:26] <geoffmcc> josiah216: whats the usb transfer error?
[20:26] <ssta> rakiru: system settings...additional drivers
[20:26] <sskalnik> bf4648:  confirm that the file exists and that the path in the command is correct
[20:26] <oCean> bf4648: are you sure that file has no additional spaces or something?
[20:26] <bf4648> well, it still didn't delete the other additional files
[20:26] <rakiru> ok, that looked different to me
[20:27] <ssta> hmm, if ls found it, then it should be there
[20:27] <josiah216> geoffmcc: the usb drive will not mount. Absolutely nothing mounts, not externatl drives or anything
[20:27] <maujhsn> urlin2u "Debian Live on dvd is an excellent alternative to installing the OS on a windows machine!
[20:27] <xTyrael> any one knows why blender do nothing when i try to execute it?
[20:27] <rakiru> maybe just because i haven't used gnome in a year - been using linux on servers only
[20:27] <rakiru> thanks
[20:27] <bullgard4> In Ubuntu 10.04.3 there is a file /usr/share/app-install/desktop/conduit.desktop. In Ubuntu 11.10 this file is named /usr/share/app-install/desktop/conduit:conduit.desktop. What is the reason for this change of name?
[20:27] <ssta> bf4648: ls -l /var/www/its/tmp/ | pastebinit
[20:27] <incorrect> urlin2u, i tried that but mutter was not installed and i don't see mutter running
[20:27] <urlin2u> maujhsn, I had debian installed for awhile to check it out, the gnome2 dsktop seems so outdated now lol.
[20:27] <rakiru> how do i find various other places from the system menu? not all of them seem to be under system settings
[20:27] <ssta> and post the url
[20:27] <bf4648> well, it just made all kinds of copies to test ...so the files do have file_name_copy_1.zip, file_name_copy_2.zip, etc
[20:28] <maujhsn> urlin2u I am sure that the Debian Channel can give me a lot of insight!
[20:28] <urlin2u> rakiru, such as?
[20:28] <geoffmcc> josiah216: ok, so when you plug in usb, it dont automount? have you tried to manually mount it?
[20:29] <ssta> rakiru: yeah, they moved some stuff aroundm, removed some stuff, it's irritating until you get used to it
[20:29] <rakiru> i'm not sure... as i've said, i haven't used it for a year and now i come back there's unity and i'm slightly lost
[20:29] <bean> geoffmcc: doesn't*
[20:29] <rakiru> i see a lot of people have the same frustration, but there's no clear answer anywhere
[20:29] <josiah216> geoffmcc: no. How do I do that? I am familiar with the terminal
[20:29] <maujhsn> urlin2u You are right the desktop looks cheesy but alot of the packages work if you know what you want!
[20:29] <ssta> rakiru: it's all "progress" (or something)
[20:29] <rakiru> it's pretty annoying when most solutions for problems are for pre-unity versions
[20:30] <geoffmcc> bean: sorry my grammer not to your liking
[20:30] <urlin2u> rakiru, open the dash top button in the oneric left panel at the bottom are icons try that.
[20:30] <rakiru> well i personally very much dislike it, but i'm sticking with it to see if i can get used ti it
[20:30] <Peyam_> can someone help please
[20:30] <rakiru> i can always swap to kubuntu if i still don't like it in a few weeks
[20:30] <bean> geoffmcc: it's not just not to my liking, your grammar and spelling are incorrect >.>
[20:30] <bean> Peyam_: ask away.
[20:31] <urlin2u> rakiru, you can also install synapse or another like docky to help you search or have links
[20:31] <Peyam_> bean I asked
[20:31] <Peyam_> nobody helps
[20:31] <Peyam_> I connect my computer with a hdmi to tv (stationary computer)
[20:31] <Peyam_> I can't see anything
[20:31] <Peyam_> this is what I get from xrandr
[20:31] <bf4648> Alright, here you go: http://pastebin.com/8dD19MzJ
[20:31] <sskalnik> rakiru:  You may try another desktop environment.
[20:31] <geoffmcc> josiah216: first to be clear it not mounted run mount in terminal, verify dont see it there
[20:31] <rakiru> yay, workarounds
[20:31] <krisss117> Nazwa.localdomain - - [19/Dec/2011:20:42:07 +0100] "POST http://www.facebook.com/ajax/chat/buddy_list.php?__a=1 HTTP/1.1" - - "http://www.facebook.com/anonymous" "Mozilla/5.0 (Ubuntu; X11; Linux i686; rv:8.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/8.0"
[20:31] <krisss117> how get the url's ?
[20:32] <maujhsn> #debian
[20:32] <ssta> bf4648: oh, the filenames have spaces in?
[20:32] <rakiru> another desktop environment such as? i already said i may switch to KDE if i can't get used to this
[20:32] <krisss117> i alvays have http://www.facebook.com/ajax/chat/buddy_list.php?__a=1Firefox/8.0"
[20:32] <krisss117> :/
[20:32] <ssta> bf4648: spaces in filenames are *evil*!
[20:32] <krisss117> have u any idea
[20:32] <krisss117>  ?
[20:32] <FloodBot1> krisss117: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:32] <bean> Peyam_: what do you get from xrandr
[20:32] <Peyam_> http://pastebin.com/pVRyABqw
[20:32] <rakiru> since the old gnome one is being removed in the next version
[20:32] <krisss117> sorry for flooding
[20:32] <bf4648> I know ...I've been at this for a while
[20:32] <oCean> krisss117: what is your question?
[20:32] <bf4648> yes they do have spaces
[20:32] <ManDay> bucky: I'm trying to use that PPA but apt-get is not working right again.
[20:33] <html> how so i ssh or ftp to a remote pc
[20:33] <krisss117> i cant prepare sed and regexp, to get the url's
[20:33] <oCean> bf4648: spaces in filenames will criple lots of (standard) shell commands
[20:33] <krisss117> :/
[20:33] <sskalnik> rakiru:  Exactly. you might give xfce or lxde a shot.
[20:33] <josiah216> geoffmcc: hold on one minute, I think I found a solution to my wireless problem. Thank you ayway!
[20:33] <ManDay> When I try to install gcc-4.3 it says something about "E: Unable to correct proble,s you have held broken packages." But it gives me now clue what the actual problem is!
[20:33] <krisss117> this is my command -> sed -e 's/.*[POST|GET] \(http.*\) HTTP.* /\1/'
[20:34] <bf4648> Alright, well, the file names should have spaces in them in production ...i just needed to make a copy real quick so I made a lot of copies
[20:34] <bf4648> hold on I"m testing w/ out spaces
[20:34] <bean> krisss117: This is for ubuntu support... not "fix my regex" support.
[20:34] <rakiru> never tried them, only really used KDE and Gnome (a bit)
[20:34] <ssta> bf4648: FOO=$(ls /path/*.zip|grep -v onetokeep.zip); for filename in "${FOO}"; do ls "${filename}; done
[20:34] <sskalnik> bf4648:  the spaces are almost assuredly the source of the error
[20:34] <rakiru> spaces in filenames are a pain in the... yeah
[20:34] <ssta> bf4648: run that, make sure it outputs the right filenames, if it does then replace the second ls with rm
[20:34] <bean> Peyam_: if you do xrandr --output VGA --auto --output HDMI1 --auto does it not do anything?
[20:35] <sskalnik> rakiru:  you might like them if you are into minimalism. I usually use xfce, but am about to try lxde
[20:35] <krisss117> i think u can help me with this, so where i can get answer for this quwstion ?
[20:35] <bucky> ManDay, did you apt-get update ?
[20:35] <ssta> umm, typo
[20:35] <oCean> krisss117: I'm still not sure what you really want to do, but if you echo that line and add an awk, like   echo $line | awk '{print $7}'
[20:35] <ssta> bf4648: FOO=$(ls /path/*.zip|grep -v onetokeep.zip); for filename in "${FOO}"; do ls "${filename}"; done
[20:35] <ssta> that's better
[20:35] <ManDay> yes
[20:35] <ManDay> bucky
[20:35] <Peyam_> bean I have my vga in tv. should I unplug the vga or what?
[20:35] <cablop> how can i create a new user with encrypted home via command line?
[20:35] <Peyam_> should I have the both Hdmi and vga in at the same time?
[20:35] <bucky> ManDay, what's the ppa addy again
[20:35] <bean> Peyam_: don't you want it to work over HDMI?
[20:35] <ManDay> bucky: Stupid apt-get
[20:35] <krisss117> ok, i try awk
[20:35] <bucky> ManDay, prefer rpm ?
[20:35] <ssta> bf4648: but seriously...save yourself a LOT of pain.  Avoid spaces in filenames (if you can)
[20:36] <ManDay> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/ppa
[20:36] <Peyam_> bean yes I want.
[20:36] <Peyam_> what do I do please help!
[20:36] <bean> Peyam_: do you have your HDMI plugged in?
[20:36] <ManDay> bucky: No, but a working package manager without stupidified output messages
[20:36] <cablop> how can i create a new user with encrypted home via command line?
[20:36] <bf4648> hey it works!!!!
[20:36] <bf4648> finally ....dang!!!!
[20:36] <ssta> bf4648: awesome, well done
[20:36] <selite> How do I determine exactly the size of a structure in C?
[20:36] <Peyam_> bean no! becouse I cant see anything it is totally blank. (no signal)
[20:36] <bf4648> that was too difficult ....man
[20:36] <selite> I know that there is data allignment, but I still don't get it.
[20:37] <ssta> bf4648: remember, spaces in filenames are evil :)
[20:37] <bean> Peyam_: can you not plug in both VGA and HDMI at the same time?
[20:37] <selite> Hello, any C programmers?
[20:37] <bf4648> ssta...they are evil!!!
[20:37] <ManDay> bucky: Tells me it depended on several packages, all of which I can install individually. But then it still says "Unable to correct problems"
[20:37] <ssta> bf4648: it's pretty loigical, if I'd known there were spaces to start with we could have gond straight there :)
[20:37] <cablop> selite maye in #c++ channel
[20:37] <urlin2u> !ask | selite
[20:38] <sskalnik> ManDay:  calling the package manager names will not make it work better. The information it gives, while admittedly not precise, does seem to indicate what the error is; "you have held broken packages." Can you pastebin the exact output?
[20:38] <Peyam_>  bean yes waite
[20:38] <rcmaehl> how do I burn a windows ISO to a usb on ubuntu (not a ubuntu iso)
[20:38] <rcmaehl> I've tried using unetbootin but windows doesn't have a kernel so it doesn't work
[20:38] <Peyam_> bean now both are inside
[20:38] <ssta> bf4648: FOO=$(...) says "assign the output of the command in $(...) to the variable FOO.  for file in "${FOO}"...the "" around "${FOO}" stops bash from splitting words around spaces.  The rest shiould be self explanatory (but ask if you don't understand it)
[20:38] <urlin2u> rcmaehl, format the thumb to ntfs with a boot flag and extract with the file archive
[20:38] <cablop> rcmaehl: i think the windows website has a guide for it, the other option is to place the iso on a usb stick and put a grub on the usb to launch it
[20:39] <bean> Peyam_: what is the output of xrandr --verbose now?
[20:39] <bean> pastebin it plz./
[20:39] <cablop> there are other grublike programs for the usb, too
[20:39] <alex-> How can I kill a program?
[20:39] <ManDay> Can anyone tell me what the hell apt-get is trying to tell me? http://pastie.org/3042537
[20:39] <alex-> pidof and kill don't work
[20:39] <urlin2u> cablop, yeah windows tells how to do it it linux.
[20:39] <bean> alex-: what program?
[20:39] <alex-> bean: minecraft
[20:39] <alex-> runs on java
[20:39] <bean> you could just do xkill and click on it
[20:39] <rcmaehl> :\ why isn't there a package for this
[20:39] <bean> :)
[20:39] <alex-> Systemmonitor says futex_wait_queue_me
[20:40] <bean> alex-: I'd say reboot :P
[20:40] <alex-> bean: this mean I will loose all my work
[20:40] <bf4648> thanks ssta....I'm going to have to learn a lot from the command line
[20:40] <cablop> urlin2u: i remembered to saw a guide for that, and... the app they made for putting win7 on a stick ended being gpl ed because they used a gpl code on it xD
[20:40] <Peyam_> bean: http://pastebin.com/StgKu6Jr
[20:40] <ssta> rcmaehl: you can dd it usually
[20:40] <alex-> Thanks bean :D
[20:40] <alex-> xkill did the job
[20:40] <rcmaehl> so format usb to bootable NTFS
[20:40] <urlin2u> cablop, you mean the windows thumb loader that works only on windows... yea it was open source.
[20:41] <ssta> rcmaehl: dd if=windows.iso of=/dev/sdX conv=sync
[20:41] <bean> Peyam_: still looks like your hdmi is disconnected.
[20:41] <rcmaehl> open ISO with archive manger and extract archive to usb
[20:41] <alex-> bean: window is gone, but process is still there...
[20:41] <ssta> the conv=sync probably isn't needed
[20:41] <Peyam_> bean:  it is in! I swer
[20:41] <bf4648> ssta...I deleted all the kinds in my home folder today trying to use the rm command...I had no backup and they aren't in the home folder
[20:41] <rcmaehl> ssta: since it is disk related will it require root?
[20:41] <alex-> bean: How can I kill the java process?
[20:41] <cablop> ssta: i doubt it is going to work, because the loader of a CD expects to be working on a cd...
[20:41] <ManDay> bucky: Anything?
[20:41] <ssta> bf4648: then they're gone.  Sorry
[20:42] <ssta> rcmaehl: generally, yes
[20:42] <urlin2u> rcmaehl, yes but put a boot flag on the y=thumb, sop format it with gparted and put the boot flag from there as well,.
[20:42] <bean> Peyam_: if you do xrandr -output HDMI1 -auto -output VGA1 -auto it doesn't work?
[20:42] <ManDay> Man... It feels good to be reminded why I use Gentoo :-/
[20:42] <SunTsu> bf4648: btw. if what you were using was my example: ls --escape would have done the trick, which escapes spaces and other non-graphical chars
[20:42] <bucky> ManDay, the link you gave me is for lucid not oneiric
[20:42] <ssta> cablop: has always worked for me (alright, Linux CDs not windows, never tried it with a windows CD)
[20:42] <bucky> ManDay, looking
[20:42] <bf4648> alright...thanks SunTsu
[20:43] <Peyam_> bean: http://pastebin.com/CFVhtbMA
[20:43] <bucky> ManDay, the link you gave me is for lucid 4.6 or some such
[20:43] <ManDay> jeez
[20:43] <bf4648> Yup, I wish the rm -rf command didn't delete things permantely
[20:43] <cristian_c> Hi
[20:43] <rcmaehl> can you repost the command again.
[20:43] <bean> Peyam_: xrandr --output VGA1 --auto --output HDMI1 --auto
[20:43] <sskalnik> ManDay:  used "-f" with apt-get?
[20:43] <SunTsu> bf4648: _always_ check stuff befor running rm -rf, like put an echo before it and check what it delets
[20:43] <rcmaehl> I don't know how to scroll up in irssi
[20:43] <ManDay> sskalnik: no
[20:43] <SunTsu> deletes
[20:43] <Solved> How do I find the address of my network printer? (\\servername\MyPrinter)
[20:43] <bean> Peyam_: also try it with HDMI2 or HDMI3 to be sure.
[20:44] <sskalnik> ManDay:  Give that a shot
[20:44] <bf4648> SunTsu...what do you mean?
[20:44] <Peyam_> bean:
[20:44] <ManDay> sskalnik: It should not be necessary.
[20:44] <urlin2u> rcmaehl, why isn't there a package for loading a windows iso in ubuntu.. have you lost your critical thinking ability. There are 3rd party apps that will check out multisystem at pendrivelinux.
[20:44] <bf4648> Could you give me an example?
[20:44] <ManDay> sskalnik: Bloody apt-get should tell me what the heck is it's problem!
[20:44] <ssta> bf4648: and use /tmp for testing stuff.  mkdir /tmp/somewheretotest and then test in there
[20:44] <phil_phys> can i modify a partition increasing space?
[20:44] <ManDay> Ubuntu's unified error message: "Can't do it." - **** it
[20:44] <ssta> phil_phys: yes, if it's not mounted.  get gparted
[20:44] <urlin2u> phil_phys, yes
[20:44] <rcmaehl> ssta: can you repost the command? I don't know how to scroll up in irssi and it's gone
[20:45] <geoffmcc> Peyam_: just something maybe you havent considered. In the past was hdmi turned off in bios for any reason? I ask because before i had flatscreen i needed vga and had to disable hdmi in bios to get vga to work. if it not detecting hdmi maybe that could be why
[20:45] <sskalnik> ManDay:  As in you know the error is false?
[20:45] <cristian_c> I have to change the key number code manager from the default one in ubuntu to that used by an alternative program, such as keytouch. I checked a configuration file called 55keytouchd_launch (found in / etc/X11/Xsession.d) whose content is as follows:
[20:45] <ManDay> sskalnik: I've no clue *what* the error actually is, since apt-get wont tell me.
[20:45] <ssta> rcmaehl: dd if=foo.iso of=/dev/sdX (replace sdX with whatever the devide for your usb drive is)
[20:45] <bean> cristian_c: don't paste it here, use pastebin
[20:45] <phil_phys> ssta: I used gparted but I cannot add the space of 8.04 into 11.10 partition
[20:45] <Peyam_> geoffmcc:  I have no problem when I used Windows 7
[20:45] <phil_phys> how can I do?
[20:45] <cristian_c> bean, http://paste.ubuntu.com/774537/
[20:45] <ssta> rcmaehl: http://serverfault.com/questions/6714/how-to-make-windows-7-usb-flash-install-media-from-linux
[20:45] <SunTsu> bf4648: when deleting stuff script-wise always prepend "echo" to the rm command to see what is getting removed. like "ls | grep -v foo | xargs echo rm"
[20:46] <Peyam_> bean: Should I restart the system or just switch to hdmi?
[20:46] <urlin2u> phil_phys, imagebin a screen shot of gparted.
[20:46] <rcmaehl> I'm trying the win8 dev preview
[20:46] <ssta> phil_phys: delete the partition with the free space, then expand the other one into that space
[20:46] <Solved> What's the address of my network printer? (\\servername\MyPrinter)
[20:46] <sskalnik> ManDay:  please do "apt-get -f" and pastebin the results.
[20:46] <cristian_c> bean, I do not think it is very useful to the cause :(
[20:46] <Solved> Like what's the servername
[20:46] <bean> Peyam_: what video card do you have?
[20:46] <SunTsu> bf4648: only when you are sure only stuff gets removed you want to get rid of remove the echo and fire away
[20:46] <phil_phys> I deleted it so I cannot see it
[20:46] <Peyam_> bean Intel family
[20:46] <bean> Peyam_: and that has HDMI output?
[20:47] <bean> o.o
[20:47] <Peyam_> bean: Intel family graphic or something. integrated
[20:47] <phil_phys> the problem is that i cannot expand the 11.10 partition
[20:47] <blitzkrieg3> rawbdor: yo
[20:47] <cristian_c> bean, What should I do to bypass the management of numerical codes by udev?
[20:47] <urlin2u> phil_phys, a picture would be helpful.
[20:47] <Peyam_> Peyam_:  yes?
[20:47] <Peyam_> bean: yes?
[20:47] <ManDay> sskalnik: same error as before
[20:47] <bf4648> I've never thought of doing that...thank you very much SunTsu
[20:47] <Peyam_> bean:  im not sure. please help me
[20:47] <ManDay> sskalnik: http://pastie.org/3042537
[20:47] <cristian_c> bean, may also be the X server to run this stuff by default in ubuntu
[20:48] <sskalnik> ManDay:  Same error about broken packages?
[20:48] <ManDay> sskalnik: I just pasted it
[20:48] <rcmaehl> Thanks
[20:48] <sskalnik> ManDay:  Roger that
[20:48] <cristian_c> bean, so for you too?
[20:48] <Peyam_> bean:  it says no video signal
[20:48] <bean> Peyam_: I'm not sure. Sometimes it won't work if you have both HDMI and VGA connected.
[20:49] <bean> cristian_c: I have no idea.
[20:49] <cristian_c> bean, This of course if the X server is running, but I do not know of any other known video servers, so I do not think anything else could be running it
[20:49] <Peyam_> bean:  it still says disconnected onverbose
[20:49] <sskalnik> ManDay:  I seem to have entered in the middle of things; which Ubuntu version are you using and what are you trying to do? It looks like you're trying to install gcc.
[20:49] <Peyam_> on verbose
[20:49] <cristian_c> bean, There is also this?
[20:49] <ManDay> sskalnik: install gcc-4.3 on oneiric
[20:49] <html> how so i ssh or ftp to a remote pc
[20:49] <bean> Peyam_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HDMI is the best place i can point you to.
[20:50] <ManDay> sskalnik: you know what, **** apt-get. i can't be arsed to put up with that all day. I'll just install it manually
[20:50] <ikonia> ManDay: stop with the staring out of words
[20:50] <ManDay> bucky: ^ thanks to you, but I cant take that any more
[20:50] <bean> cristian_c: I don't know what you're asking, all I told you was to not paste things here.
[20:50] <ikonia> ManDay: you know the rules bu now, if you have to star the word, don't use it
[20:50] <bean> ManDay: ... lol
[20:50] <ManDay> ikonia: don't worry. I'll stop talking alltogether
[20:50] <sskalnik> ManDay:  language please.
[20:50] <geoffmcc> Peyam_: was hdmi connected when computer started?
[20:50] <ikonia> ManDay: thanks
[20:51] <Peyam_> bean:  how do I make a startup program that runs when computer turns on?
[20:51] <Peyam_> with that codes
[20:51] <Solved> How do I determine my "printer address" in ubuntu?
[20:51] <Peyam_> geoffmcc: no!
[20:51] <geoffmcc> Peyam_: restart with cable connected, will detect just fine
[20:51] <cristian_c> bean, so I have to tell? :)
[20:51] <sskalnik> ManDay:  purely out of curiosity, why 4.3 instead of 4.4?
[20:51] <bucky> ManDay, you just have to search for it.. this guy built it but i can't find his ppa right now.. it takes searching on google
[20:51] <Peyam_> geoffmcc: are you sure?
[20:51] <geoffmcc> Peyam_: yes
[20:51] <phil_phys> can I extend the space inside the partition without deleting data?
[20:51] <bean> Peyam_: you might want to try it just by rebooting with the HDMI connected first. You would edit your X config.
[20:51] <ikonia> that error looks like it's a package from the wrong ubuntu version
[20:51] <phil_phys> in which way?
[20:51] <ManDay> sskalnik: A propriatary software called "matlab" needs it.
[20:52] <Peyam_> geoffmcc:  but it says disconnected.
[20:52] <ikonia> ManDay: matlab will work with most versions of GCC, I have it running with 4.2
[20:52] <bean> cristian_c: please restate your question.
[20:52] <Peyam_> bean:  I cant see anything with hdmi. I cant edit anything
[20:52] <ManDay> ikonia: Yes, older than 4.3
[20:52] <geoffmcc> Peyam_: when computer booted and loaded everyhting hdmi was not connected, when it boots up and its connected it will notice and enable
[20:52] <cristian_c> bean, ok
[20:52] <ikonia> ManDay: so why are you trying to install 4.3 ?
[20:53] <Peyam_> geoffmcc: i will try it now
[20:53] <ManDay> ikonia: Because that is the newest GCC supported by matlab 2011b
[20:53] <ikonia> ManDay but it will support older versions
[20:53] <bucky> ManDay, you can dl them and install them one by one here
[20:53] <geoffmcc> Peyam_: first try just hdmi connected as bean is right, sometimes hdmi and vga can cause issues if not prop configured
[20:53] <urlin2u> phil_phys, instead i=of asking the same question posta a screen shot of gparted in a imagebin and get this task done.
[20:53] <bucky> ManDay,  https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/1978603/+listing-archive-extra
[20:53] <bucky> ManDay, that's the best i can do
[20:54] <cristian_c> I have to change the key number code manager from the default one in ubuntu to that used by an alternative program, such as keytouch. I checked a configuration file called 55keytouchd_launch (found in / etc/X11/Xsession.d) whose content is as follows:
[20:54] <phil_phys> what is a screen shot?
[20:54] <cristian_c> http://paste.ubuntu.com/774537/
[20:54] <sskalnik> ManDay:  Aha. It looks like Matlab wants an old version, e.g., 4.2.3. :/
[20:54] <sskalnik> ManDay:  I understand your predicament now.
[20:54] <cristian_c> I do not think it is very useful to the cause
[20:54] <nimbiotics> Hello all. Im using ubuntu 11.10 with gnome classic (I'm a Unity hater). I installed compiz but I cannot see ANY of the effects y select using CompizConfig Settings Manager. Why isn't Compiz working?? TI
[20:54] <urlin2u> phil_phys, open gparted hit the prtsc key and post it here. http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[20:55] <cristian_c> What should I do to bypass the management of numerical codes by udev?
[20:55] <cristian_c> may also be the X server to run this stuff by default in ubuntu
[20:55] <cristian_c> so for you too?
[20:55] <sskalnik> ManDay:  Does Matlab refuse to work, or does it just five warnings about the version?
[20:55] <bean> cristian_c: I'm confused as to A) why you need to install keytouch, and B) what isn't working for you.
[20:56] <bucky> ManDay, make sure you get your versions right... also there's a matlab compatible (mostly) in the repos called freemat
[20:56] <urlin2u> nimbiotics, try #compiz
[20:56] <cristian_c> bean, I've installed keytouch, but it uses a own keycode manager
[20:56] <nimbiotics> urlin2u: THX
[20:56] <sskalnik> ManDay:  Might give this a read http://whowhywhathow.blogspot.com/2011_01_01_archive.html
[20:57] <ManDay> ikonia: I can't figure out how to get the PPA URL and the key from that url you gave me.
[20:57] <sskalnik> ManDay:  You may have already tried it, but it might be worth a look.
[20:57] <ManDay> sskalnik: It refuses to work.
[20:57] <ikonia> ManDay: I didn't give you a PPA
[20:57] <ManDay> ikonia: I couldn't tell.
[20:57] <ikonia> ManDay: I still don't understand why are you pushing gcc 4.3 ?
[20:57] <cristian_c> bean, keytouch's keycodes are different from the default keycodes manager in ubuntu
[20:57] <ikonia> !info gcc
[20:57] <ManDay> ikonia: I'm not? I'd just prefer it over an even older version, obviously.
[20:57] <ikonia> ManDay: why ?
[20:58] <ManDay> Why would I want an older version?
[20:58] <bean> cristian_c: keytouch-editor ?
[20:58] <ikonia> ManDay: compatability, support,
[20:58] <ikonia> ManDay: a newer version is not "better"
[20:58] <cristian_c> bean, then keytouch codes do not work on ubuntu, because ubuntu uses its codes
[20:58] <ikonia> ManDay: compilers can often not work with code if the code is not designed for the way that compiler works
[20:58] <cristian_c> bean, yes
[20:58] <ikonia> ManDay: xorg used to be very fussy with certain compilers, even the kernel did at one point
[20:58] <ManDay> ikonia: So which do you suggest? Since they (everything older than 4.5) appeared equally hard to install I simply chose the newest among them-
[20:59] <sskalnik> ManDay:  by "refuses to work", what exact errors are you seeing? The apt-get output, or something else?
[20:59] <ikonia> ManDay: you're using ubuntu 11.10 ?
[20:59] <ikonia> ManDay: or 11.04 ?
[20:59] <ManDay> sskalnik: You asked about matlab.
[20:59] <ManDay> ikonia: 11.10
[20:59] <cristian_c> bean, the default keycodes' manager in ubuntu should be X
[20:59] <ikonia> ManDay: ok, so that comes with 4.4 - is there a problem using 4.4 ?
[20:59] <bean> cristian_c: keytouch only supports certain keyboards.
[20:59] <ManDay> Yes, matlab only supports 4.3
[20:59] <ManDay> (and possibly older)
[21:00] <bean> cristian_c: and you cna use keytouch-editor to 'train' your system
[21:00] <ikonia> ManDay: ok, according to the matlab website ubuntu 11.04 is fully supported with gcc and glibc versions, have you conisdered using 11.04 to that the whole distro meets the support requirements ?
[21:00] <sskalnik> ManDay:  Ah, okay, my mistake. Looks like I'm up to date on your issue then. Cool, thanks for the info. Now I guess we just need to get gcc 4.3 then.
[21:00] <ikonia> sskalnik: I wouldn't suggest that looking at the matlab support requirements on libc as well,
[21:00] <cristian_c> bean, but keytouch-editor recognizes the keys on my keyboard
[21:00] <sskalnik> ikonia:  Link?
[21:01] <cristian_c> bean, it assigns the right functions
[21:01] <ManDay> ikonia: sskalnik Really, I'm just using the manually installed version now. Even though I will have hack arround the non-standard locations of libs and includes. But I'm tired of this hassle with trying to get it to install through apt-get
[21:01] <ikonia> it's beyond gcc, which inferes libc/binutils and all other fun stuff
[21:01] <ikonia> http://www.mathworks.co.uk/support/sysreq/current_release/linux.html
[21:01] <ikonia> there is also a more detailsed one
[21:01] <FloodBot1> ikonia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:01] <ikonia> ManDay: the libraries ARE standard
[21:01] <bean> cristian_c: then I'm confused as to wtf your problem is?
[21:01] <ManDay> ikonia: /usr/lib/x86_64-gnu-linux  is hardly a standard location
[21:01] <ikonia> ManDay: the fact that you have no idea how to build gcc suggests it will not be a sane compiler
[21:01] <ikonia> ManDay: it is for a multi-lib distro
[21:02] <ManDay> ikonia: It's still not a standard.
[21:02] <phil_phys> urlin2U: How can I obtain the image?
[21:02] <ManDay> And as I said I already got gcc running
[21:02] <ikonia> ManDay: you need a sane compiler
[21:02] <ikonia> ManDay: how do you know ?
[21:02] <sskalnik> ikonia:  But according to ManDay, matlab is not working on 11.10 for him/her, yes?
[21:02] <ikonia> ManDay: it is standard
[21:02] <ikonia> ManDay: what have you done to provie it's a sane version
[21:02] <Peyam_> it didnt work
[21:02] <ManDay> ikonia: I compiled a test program
[21:02] <ikonia> ManDay: hello world ?
[21:02] <Peyam_> bean: it still doesnt work
[21:02] <ManDay> ikonia: yes.
[21:02] <cristian_c> bean, therefore rit ecognizes the keyboard, but the system also favors another manager, not keytouch
[21:02] <ikonia> ManDay: ok, that's not a compiler test
[21:02] <Peyam_> bean:  please send me the same like
[21:02] <ManDay> ikonia: I know.
[21:02] <cristian_c> bean, that is the problem
[21:02] <ikonia> ManDay: then why did you just say it was
[21:03] <urlin2u> phil_phys, you have two options in the menu is screenshot or the prtsc key save it then put it on the http imagebin site I posted.
[21:03] <bean> Peyam_: xrandr --output VGA1 --auto --output HDMI1 --auto ?
[21:03] <alecbenzer> where should the standard magic file be in ubuntu? /usr/share/misc/magic is an empty dir, for example
[21:03] <ikonia> sskalnik: I would use 11.04 personally as that is confirmed supported by mathworks
[21:03] <Peyam_> no
[21:03] <Peyam_> the link
[21:03] <ManDay> ikonia: I just said I compiled a test program.
[21:03] <Peyam_> on ubuntu wiki
[21:03] <ikonia> sskalnik: out of the box/stock
[21:03] <bullgard4> In Ubuntu 10.04.3 there is a file /usr/share/app-install/desktop/conduit.desktop. In Ubuntu 11.10 this file is named /usr/share/app-install/desktop/conduit:conduit.desktop. What is the reason for this change of name?
[21:03] <ikonia> ManDay: yes, and you then said you know it's not a valid test
[21:03] <urlin2u> !imagebin | phil_phys
[21:03] <ManDay> ikonia: So why do you suggest gcc does not find the libs in that place, if they are "standard", as you claim.
[21:03] <ManDay> ikonia: Yes, I did.
[21:03] <alecbenzer> (although the file command does work so I'm assuming the data is somewhere)
[21:03] <ikonia> ManDay: because you built gcc wrong
[21:04] <cristian_c> bean, I have to disable the default manager in ubuntu, that operation should be not made by it
[21:04] <ikonia> ManDay: which is why I'm saying your compiler is not sane and you should not try to use it
[21:04] <cristian_c> but by keytouch
[21:04] <sskalnik> ManDay:  did you manually build gcc 4.3?
[21:04] <ManDay> ikonia: We were already there. And you are the only person saying that. I was already told that gcc requires special patches to find libs in that dir. Clearly, they are not standard
[21:04] <ikonia> ManDay: they are
[21:05] <ManDay> ikonia: Then prove it.
[21:05] <ikonia> prove what ?
[21:05] <ssta> ManDay: no, iot just requires the right options to ./configure (which several people told you to hours ago)
[21:05] <ManDay> The ubuntu wiki itsself says that such a FS structure is made up sepcially for ubuntu
[21:05] <html> sskalnik,  thanks,,, but i was hoping to use filezilla im new to it
[21:05] <ikonia> ManDay: what ?#
[21:05] <ManDay> ssta: And which, to the current point in time, still remains unproven and unbelievable.
[21:05] <Ampelbein> ManDay: The locations of the libs standard on debian/ubuntu systems, the FHS currently does not recognize those directory paths.
[21:05] <ikonia> ManDay: why don't you just use 11.04 which is supported out of the box
[21:06] <ikonia> ManDay: it works with matlab out of the box and you know everything will be sane
[21:06] <ssta> ManDay: whatever.  You haven't even tried
[21:06] <skegeek> ckserv identify 91fordgeek11
[21:06] <ManDay> ikonia: I wanted to use the newest ubuntu.
[21:06] <Peyam_> bean
[21:06] <Pici> skegeek: Please change your password, and consider identifying in a status window next time.
[21:06] <ManDay> And since I set everything up from a debootstrap it didn't really matter for me.
[21:06] <ikonia> ManDay: I appreciate that, but if your driver is matlab and you are not confident with what you are doing, surly a sane build environment is better to play with programming tools like matlab
[21:06] <ManDay> ikonia: Is gcc4-3 in the 10.04 repositories?
[21:07] <Peyam_> bean:  How do I make a start up program who runs this code when I log in? get-edid
[21:07] <ManDay> I mean 11.04
[21:07] <skegeek> Darn it.
[21:07] <ikonia> ManDay: I don't think so, but I don't know, I'd have to check, but it's in 11.04 which is fully supported, so if you want to change versions 11.04 would be where to go
[21:07] <ikonia> ManDay: yes, 11.04
[21:07] <sskalnik> ManDay:  Would it be feasible for you to switch from 11.10 to 11.04?
[21:07] <ikonia> ManDay: http://www.mathworks.co.uk/support/sysreq/current_release/linux.html
[21:07] <ikonia> ManDay: 11.04 is fully supported out the box
[21:07] <ManDay> ikonia: Ok, I'll change over to 11.04 then
[21:07] <sskalnik> ManDay:  That seems like a safe option with less hassle for you.
[21:07] <bean> Peyam_: you could throw it in /home/peyam/.bash_profile
[21:07] <bean> i think
[21:08] <ManDay> Ok, thank you, I'll start building now
[21:08] <ikonia> building ???
[21:08] <ikonia> you just need to install it
[21:08] <khaime> hello to all
[21:09] <html> ikonia,  i need help with file zilla is there a channel?
[21:09] <ikonia> html: no idea, probably
[21:09] <cristian_c> bean, any ideas?
[21:09] <phil_phys> urlin2u: I don't see these two options
[21:09] <Peyam_> bean
[21:09] <khaime> i just bought a wireless device that is on the list of supported wireless devices, and I still can not get this thing to work ....Ubuntu cna see it, and I followed the instructions on installing the device
[21:09] <khaime> can anyone help ?
[21:09] <Pessimist> html: try #filezilla
[21:09] <Peyam_> I can choose the start up program on application
[21:10] <urlin2u> phil_phys, you running oneric
[21:10] <Peyam_> bean:  I can choose the startup applications and I want a command
[21:10] <Peyam_> is it .bash get-edid?
[21:10] <bean> Peyam_: i don't know what you're trying to accomplish with that.
[21:10] <nick5556> hail !! my good people !
[21:10] <khaime> i have ran iwconfig....lshw -C network......and have not gotten the desired results
[21:10] <urlin2u> phil_phys, prtsc is a key on our keyboard top right of it.
[21:11] <nick5556> o/
[21:11] <bean> Peyam_: in startup applications you could just do get-edid but I don't know what that attempts to accomplish
[21:11] <ManDay> ikonia: 11.04 isn't even supported by canonical!
[21:11] <ikonia> what ?
[21:11] <nick5556> is there an apple browser for ubuntu?
[21:11] <ikonia> what are you talking about ? it's fully supported
[21:11] <bean> nick5556: what do you me3an apple browser?
[21:11] <ManDay> 10.04 is supported in LTS ikonia - where is 11.04 supported?
[21:12] <geoffmcc> khaime: what kind of card, what seems to be the problem?
[21:12] <Peyam_> bean:  in that page it says..I should run those command while im in with hdmi.. and I guess it will be good if the command runs automaticly?
[21:12] <ikonia> ManDay: it's supported for 18 months after release.
[21:12] <ManDay> ikonia: I can't even download it on the ubuntu.com download pag
[21:12] <ikonia> ManDay: same as 11.10 is supported for 180 months
[21:12] <bean> Peyam_: you'd have to save the output somewhere.
[21:12] <ikonia> 18 months sorry
[21:12] <nick5556> bean apple browser
[21:12] <bean> ManDay: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[21:12] <nick5556> what els
[21:12] <nick5556> to browse the itnernet
[21:12] <bean> nick5556: um, theres no browser called apple browser.
[21:12] <Pessimist> nick5556: Safari isn't released for Safari, you can try wine with it though
[21:12] <khaime> geoffmcc ...it is a NetGear N150 (WNA1100)
[21:12] <Pessimist> for ubuntu*
[21:12] <urlin2u> ManDay, http://releases.ubuntu.com/natty/
[21:13] <nick5556> pessmisist guy.. i know it's based on webkit GTK
[21:13] <Peyam_> bean: please help me
[21:13] <cristian_c> bean, it would be important for me to disable this feature in the default handler
[21:13] <bean> cristian_c: I have no idea how.
[21:13] <bean> Peyam_: I have no idea.
[21:13] <nick5556> asagain.. is there an apple borwser for ubuntu ?
[21:13] <cristian_c> bean, ok, thanks
[21:13] <Peyam_> bean:  it kills me
[21:13] <bean> nick5556: ... theres no such thing as apple browser, anywhere.
[21:13] <khaime> I have a few wireless devices of my own and they do not work , i went to  ; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsNetgear
[21:13] <geoffmcc> khaime: ok so whats the results you were expecting
[21:13] <bean> nick5556: just use the standard browser.
[21:13] <Peyam_> geoffmcc:  it didnt work
[21:13] <Pessimist> nick5556: Try better alternatives, like firefox, opera, chrome
[21:13] <bean> nick5556: Firefox, etc.
[21:13] <ManDay> ikonia ok thank you
[21:13] <nick5556> bean yeah there is an apple browser for OSX
[21:14] <nick5556> you call it whatever you like
[21:14] <bean> nick5556: that's called safari.
[21:14] <cristian_c> Peyam_, thanks anyway, is a volunteer help :)
[21:14] <nick5556> i call it an apple browser
[21:14] <ikonia> ManDay: just slow down and clam down before making rash claims, people will help you but only if you stop spouting nonsense
[21:14] <khaime> geoffmcc, I was expecting the usb device to work !   Ubuntu sees the card, and I installed the driver...now I can't get it to work
[21:14] <nick5556> bean thank you again. is there an apple browser for ubuntu ?
[21:14] <ikonia> nick5556: no#
[21:14] <insectatorious> Is there an alternative to Nautilus? I have to run killall everytime I boot before it works
[21:14] <nick5556> thank you
[21:14] <ikonia> nick5556: safari is not available on ubuntu
[21:14] <bean> nick5556: what does having an "apple browser" do for you that another browser doesn't.
[21:14] <Peyam_> cristian_c:  why?
[21:14] <nick5556> ikonia something based on it
[21:14] <ikonia> nick5556: it's not open source
[21:14] <nick5556> just like google browser
[21:14] <ikonia> nick5556: it's not open source
[21:15] <nick5556> ok thank you
[21:15] <nick5556> wasted 10 minutes of my life to get an answer
[21:15] <cristian_c> Peyam_, bean is not obligated to help :)
[21:15] <nick5556> thank you for questioning me for that long
[21:15] <bean> nick5556: ....? we said that from the beginning
[21:15] <Pessimist> nick5556: Safari isn't released for ubuntu. Try better alternatives like firefox, opera, chrome
[21:15] <nick5556> i don't trust google browser
[21:15] <bean> nick5556: I don't know what an 'apple browser' gets you that firefox, etc doesn't. Either.
[21:15] <nick5556> they track you online if you use their search engine
[21:15] <ikonia> nick5556: there are other options as you've just been told
[21:16] <nick5556> and you want me to use their browser too
[21:16] <geoffmcc> khaime: how did you install the driver?
[21:16] <bean> nick5556: I said firefox.
[21:16] <khaime> geoffmcc, I just did a iwconfig and got nothing
[21:16] <ikonia> nick5556: don't use it, it's simple, use a different one
[21:16] <khaime> geoffmcc, yes, I installed the driver
[21:16] <Peyam_> cristian_c:  Can you help me please?
[21:16] <nick5556> bean yeah that's the default
[21:16] <nick5556> for uubntu
[21:16] <nick5556> thank you
[21:16] <bean> nick5556: and what's wrong with the default?
[21:16] <nick5556> nothing
[21:16] <witakr> Hello folks
[21:16] <nick5556> i want to use extra browsers
[21:16] <cristian_c> Peyam_, what to do in practice?
[21:16] <nick5556> for testing
[21:16] <phil_phys> yes 11.10
[21:16] <sskalnik> There's always links...
[21:17] <geoffmcc> khaime: no, im asking how did you install it? did you follow a guide so i can see what was done
[21:17] <Peyam_> cristian_c:  I cant get my ubuntu work with hdmi
[21:17] <mkanyicy> nick5556, you have been given options of alternative browsers
[21:17] <nick5556> mkanyicy ok thank you guys
[21:17] <cristian_c> !hdmi | peyam_
[21:17] <khaime> geoffmcc, I ran the following file : ath9k_htc-installer_1-0-4.deb
[21:17] <bean> nick5556: then there are many browsers. Firefox, Iceweasel, Chromium, Google Chrome, lynx, etc.
[21:18] <nick5556> bean based on which engine ?
[21:18] <cristian_c> Peyam_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HDMI
[21:18] <cristian_c> Peyam_, sound or video?
[21:18] <khaime> geoffmcc, if you go here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsNetgear .....   and look toward the bottom of the page, you will see what I am talking about
[21:18] <insectatorious> Guys, are there any alternatives to Nautilus on Ubuntu?
[21:18] <nick5556> Gecko, webkit or GTK or presto
[21:18] <Peyam_> cristian_c: both
[21:18] <khaime> the ath9_htc-installer was not foudn on the link provided
[21:18] <bean> nick5556: firefox is based on Gecko, as is Iceweasel. Chromium / Google Chrome is based on webkit.
[21:18] <cristian_c> Peyam_, sound is easy
[21:19] <nick5556> i don't touch google browser but what is ice weasel ?
[21:19] <cristian_c> Peyam_, you have to enable hdmi device in pulseaudio
[21:19] <phil_phys> urlin2u: Sorry i didn't know that function and that buttom
[21:19] <ssta> it's firefox
[21:19] <Pessimist> nick5556: This isn't browser support channel. insectatorious: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/06/daily-5-5-alternative-file-managers/
[21:19] <cristian_c> Peyam_, hardware tab
[21:19] <Peyam_> cristian_c: how?
[21:19] <nick5556> ok but i rather install something based on a good feed back from a user
[21:19] <cristian_c> Peyam_, pavucontrol
[21:19] <insectatorious> Pessimist: thanks
[21:19] <nick5556> not for a review
[21:19] <Peyam_> cristian_c:  I have a desktop computer..
[21:19] <bean> nick5556: theresz no reason to not touch googles browser. They won't track you without permission.
[21:19] <urlin2u> insectatorious, your question on the web. http://askubuntu.com/questions/28556/are-there-any-alternatives-to-nautilus
[21:19] <nick5556> he reviews.. not all of them are his main borwser
[21:19] <ikonia> nick5556: people have different views, so try them, see what you like, don't like it, remove it
[21:19] <cristian_c> Peyam_, of course
[21:20] <Peyam_> cristian_c:  im beginner please step by step
[21:20] <witakr> Is there anyone here who is familiar with Jahshaka Video Editor? I believe the problem may actually be with qt4 as I get an error with I run ./configure to compile Jahshaka. The error I get is : "Project LOAD(): Feature Settings.pro cannot be found." Can someone help me figure out how to fix this so I can get Jahshaka running, please? Thanks!
[21:20] <cristian_c> Peyam_, opena terminal and type: pavucontrol
[21:20] <Jef91> Does anyone know what scripts are run when a system comes out of suspend? I need to add a command to be run when my system stops suspending
[21:20] <urlin2u> phil_phys, no problem now you know yo want the imagebin link again?
[21:20] <nick5556> ok who is in here using something other than the popular browsers ?
[21:20] <bean> nick5556: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_IceCat
[21:20] <witakr> Oh, I'm running Ubuntu 11.10
[21:20] <insectatorious> urlin2u: much obliged
[21:20] <Jef91> nick5556 Midori is slick.
[21:21] <nick5556> Jef91 yeah that one is made by japanese
[21:21] <geoffmcc> khaime: and after you installed the .deb you ran the installer?
[21:21] <phil_phys> urlin2u: http://imagebin.org/189416
[21:21] <khaime> yes I did....
[21:21] <cristian_c> Peyam_, done?
[21:21] <khaime> geoffmcc, yes I did
[21:21] <khaime> geoffmcc , from "system tools"
[21:21] <bean> nick5556: seriously though, most people just use firefox or chromium or google chrome
[21:22] <nick5556> ok thank you Jef91 and bean
[21:22] <cristian_c> Peyam_, I've got a little time
[21:22] <nick5556> i will try few of the browsers mentioned by you
[21:22] <cristian_c> :)
[21:22] <bean> nick5556: http://www.chromium.org/Home is like google chrome but open source build.
[21:22] <nick5556> naaa i will never touch google browser
[21:22] <phil_phys> urlin2u: I'd like to add ext3 to ext4 can I?
[21:22] <Peyam_> cristian_c:  yes. it is installed now. that program you mentioned
[21:22] <nick5556> even if it's the last one to survive the market
[21:22] <cristian_c> Peyam_, Iaunch it
[21:22] <urlin2u> phil_phys, so you want to expand the sda5 to the left?
[21:22] <bean> nick5556: it's not google browser... it's just the same code... lol
[21:23] <bean> nick5556: I don't get the google-phobia, but to each their own I suppose.
[21:23] <Peyam_> waite
[21:23] <phil_phys> urlin2u: Yes i want to extend sda4
[21:23] <phil_phys> 5
[21:23] <phil_phys> sda5
[21:23] <Peyam_> cristian_c:  yes
[21:23] <Peyam_> and now
[21:23] <Peyam_> ?
[21:23] <geoffmcc> khaime: and is wireless listed as an option in network conenctions and it wont connect. or it just not listed?
[21:24] <khaime> geoffmcc, it is just not listed
[21:24] <urlin2u> phil_phys, you need to not be using it first, and turn the swap off use a live cd.
[21:24] <suel> hello world
[21:24] <Peyam_> cristian_c:  and then?
[21:24] <bf4648> how do I make a directory & then change the file permissions on that directory so that "others" can access the directory:  mkdir /var/www/its/tmp | chmod 777 tmp ?
[21:25] <cristian_c> Peyam_, select hardware tab
[21:25] <urlin2u> phil_phys, it looks as if you booted into the sda5 right now sda4 is the extended your using it.
[21:25] <Peyam_> cristian_c:  it is just colym
[21:25] <Peyam_> cristian_c:  and then?
[21:25] <easypie> what name should i give my file in /etc/sudoers.d/<file> so i can add users to allow root privilege?
[21:25] <phil_phys> urlin2u: How can I turn the swap off?
[21:25] <cristian_c> Peyam_, select colym? What's mean?
[21:26] <phil_phys> the swap is sda6?
[21:26] <bf4648> I answered my own question
[21:26] <cristian_c> Peyam_, *colym, what's mean?
[21:26] <Pistahh> hi
[21:26] <Peyam_> cristian_c: volume
[21:26] <cristian_c> ok
[21:26] <Peyam_> and then?
[21:26] <MrPumpkincitis> Hello Hackers
[21:26] <urlin2u> phil_phys, you right click the partition then swap off. Notice the keys on the partitions as well it means they are mounted you have to unmount them. Ubuntu does not resize partitions while using them like windows does.
[21:26] <cristian_c> Peyam_, no, you have to select a tab in the window
[21:27] <Pistahh> I installed 11.10, installed the gnome-shell package, logged in with "Gnome" session. Now on the top menu there are "applications" and "places", but no "Activities" - any idea why?
[21:27] <nick5556> easypie what are you using the computer for ?
[21:27] <cristian_c> Peyam_, you have got two devices: a sound card and a hdmi device
[21:27] <Peyam_> cristian_c:  there is nothing with hardware . it is just configuration..
[21:27] <suel> who knows a site where i can practice english speaking???
[21:27] <bean> easypie: I usually just do visudo and edit the file that way.
[21:27] <cristian_c> Peyam_, take a screen
[21:27] <Peyam_> cristian_c:  no just one. volume
[21:27] <bean> suel: this is an ubuntu support channel...
[21:28] <cristian_c> Peyam_, take a screenshot
[21:28] <Peyam_> cristian_c:  it is in swedish
[21:28] <urlin2u> phil_phys, so you need to shrink the sda3 to exspand the sda4 into it you will need to use a gparted or live ubuntu cd.
[21:28] <suel> bean: do you know a channel about what i ask?
[21:28] <bean> suel: no
[21:28] <MrPumpkincitis> always have open 5 desktops and each one has 1-3 applications running. When I reboot I have to manually open each one. Is there a way all can open automatically? I am running 11.04
[21:28] <easypie> nick5556, web server to host website. i want a user other than root to login and su for root if needed.
[21:29] <livingdaylight> I don't know how to diagnose my problem. Computer will be working fine but after some time or if I've left it idle some time and come back, bits have frozen. If I'm on my browser I might be able to continue surfing but not change workspaces or open other applications. I had a broken hd not long ago which I changed and things have been fine till now. I don't know whether it is hard drive again, or motherboard. I
[21:29] <livingdaylight> 've reinstalled a different os and similar problem has already started again. Each time all I can do is hit ctrl+alt+ prtScr+K and login again.
[21:29] <cristian_c> Peyam_, it doesn't matter, I translate
[21:29] <suel> bean: thanks anyway
[21:29] <Peyam_> okej
[21:29] <nick5556> easypie echo 'easypie ALL=(ALL) ALL' >> /etc/sudoers
[21:29] <ikonia> livingdaylight: try ##hardware
[21:29] <Peyam_> which flik do you wana see
[21:29] <Peyam_> which tab?
[21:29] <ikonia> livingdaylight: having a problem with multiple OS's, same symptoms, probably a hardware issue
[21:29] <nick5556> that way you become a sudoer
[21:29] <IamHe> Hey, I'm using a live cd to boot on a pc running windows vista.. im trying to salvage the information on the hard drive.. but the hard drive shows all the folders in ubuntu.. but the majority of the files within these folders.. don't show.. like the images.. what do i do?
[21:29] <easypie> bean, i created a file sudolist and chmod to 0440 as required and use <user> ALL=(ALL) ALL
[21:29] <bean> nick5556: I wouldn't advise that. easypie
[21:29] <ikonia> easypie: do not do that
[21:29] <Peyam_> cristian_c:  which tab?
[21:29] <nick5556> well he wants it
[21:30] <nick5556> he said web server
[21:30] <cristian_c> Peyam_, all the tabs :)
[21:30] <nick5556> so it's far a way from kids ad strnagers
[21:30] <phil_phys> urlin2u: So i need to right click the sda6??
[21:30] <ikonia> easypie: do not follow nick5556's advice
[21:30] <ikonia> easypie: that is not how you edit sudo
[21:30] <bean> nick5556: that's not the best way to edit sudo at all
[21:30] <Peyam_> cristian_c:  okej
[21:30] <livingdaylight> ikonia, yea, probably, Ubuntu and xubuntu [fresh install today] Firefox seems to trigger it. But ran chrome came back and had to reboot too
[21:30] <nick5556> thank to god i'm wrong
[21:30] <nick5556> no worries
[21:30] <easypie> i move the sudolist into /etc/sudoers.d/sudolist
[21:30] <bean> easypie: you could just use the command 'visudo' to edit your sudoers file
[21:30] <witakr> Is there anyone here who is familiar with Jahshaka Video Editor? I believe the problem may actually be with qt4 as I get an error when I run ./configure in terminal to compile Jahshaka. The error I get is : "Project LOAD(): Feature Settings.pro cannot be found." Can someone help me figure out how to fix this so I can get Jahshaka running, please? I'm running Ubuntu 11.10 Thanks!
[21:31] <urlin2u> phil_phys, yes the sda6 is the swap right click it in the listand the clcl swap off.
[21:31] <ikonia> livingdaylight: ok - so both ubuntu based though
[21:31] <livingdaylight> but chrome is more funtional until system crashes properly... but otherwise for all intent and purposes it appears fine right now as I type her
[21:31] <tbruff13> does anyone here need help with an issue in this channel
[21:31] <ikonia> livingdaylight: have you considered doing a base hardware check, such as memtest
[21:31] <ikonia> tbruff13: if they did, they will ask
[21:31] <livingdaylight> ikonia, yes *buntu based 100%
[21:31] <cristian_c> Peyam_, write in the query, I have to be away
[21:31] <tbruff13> ikonia: usually that makes people ask
[21:31] <urlin2u> clcl=click
[21:31] <IamHe> *********** why aren't any of my image files showing on my mounted hard drive in ubuntu live cd.. i'm running it on a windows computer.. trying to save the files off the disk to an external because windows boot files are screwed up
[21:31] <Peyam_> cristian_c: http://i44.tinypic.com/4masy.png
[21:32] <livingdaylight> ikonia, that's why I am asking because I don't know what I can do. hardwqare check such as memtest?
[21:32] <easypie> bean, this comment made me turn to creating a file in sudoers.d: #Please consider adding local content in /etc/sudoers.d/ instead of
[21:32] <easypie> # directly modifying this file.
[21:32] <ikonia> livingdaylight: I'd suggest a little hardware test, run memcheck for a good few hours, and use a tool called "stress Linux" for a good few hours, just test your hardware to get an idea that is't supported
[21:32] <bean> easypie: that works, i suppose.
[21:32] <livingdaylight> ikonia, can you please tell me how?
[21:32] <Peyam_> cristian_c: http://i39.tinypic.com/2dltd2s.png
[21:32] <easypie> visudo
[21:32] <livingdaylight> ikonia, not familiar with either
[21:32] <Peyam_> cristian_c: http://i41.tinypic.com/r9erd5.png
[21:32] <ikonia> livingdaylight: memtest is in the ubuntu boot menu, select it from grub run it for 12 - 14 hours or so at least, any errors in your ram will show up
[21:33] <livingdaylight> ikonia, is stress test in repositories? where is this tool?
[21:33] <Peyam_> cristian_c: http://i39.tinypic.com/2cnitf.png
[21:33] <ikonia> livingdaylight: stress linux is a livecd
[21:33] <livingdaylight> i see!
[21:33] <ikonia> Peyam_: you've posted that 3 times in 1 minute, can you give it a rest pleasel.
[21:33] <urlin2u> phil_phys, are you doing this from being booted to the sda5 partition?
[21:33] <bean> easypie: you'd have to uncomment a line in your sudoers anyways. the #includedir line
[21:33] <BLZbubba_> is there an easy way to have ubuntu's useradd do a proper job of setting up a new account?
[21:33] <Peyam_> cristian_c: http://i40.tinypic.com/2ibm8pf.png
[21:33] <Peyam_> it different pics
[21:34] <easypie> bean, ok. i'll opt for visudo and add the user there.
[21:34] <phil_phys> i could try from cd live
[21:34] <ikonia> Peyam_: ok, maybe giving him chance to respond is a good move
[21:34] <nick5556> how to disable guest session ?
[21:34] <ikonia> Peyam_: he's aready said hes away and not here
[21:34] <bean> easypie: visudo also checks your syntax for you.
[21:34] <urlin2u> phil_phys, you have to it will not work while in the ubuntu partition.
[21:34] <dagerik> I change a screen setting in gnome-control-center, but the change never take effect. It defaults back to default values when I go back in there again.
[21:34] <bean> nick5556: google is a great help for questions like that: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28165/how-do-i-remove-the-guest-session-option-from-the-shutdown-menu
[21:35] <ikonia> livingdaylight: it's a bit of a drag as it will waste 24 hours of your life, however it's worth it to get a bit of confidence your hardware is ok
[21:35] <urlin2u> phil_phys, you will have to reload the grub bootloader if you move the front of sda5 unless hyou chand=ge the fstab to sda5 from a uuid.
[21:35] <urlin2u> you change
[21:35] <easypie> difference between <user> ALL=(ALL) ALL and <user> ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL ..?
[21:37] <livingdaylight> ikonia, well, this has more than wasted 24hrs of my life already. Its a real drag, coz I not long ago got a new hd. Admittedly the machine is relatively old now, although still a dual-core. Nevertheless, I don't know what I can and can't keep and whether to just get a new base unit. If this can diagnose the problem so at least I know whehter I can salvage my system or not I can move forward
[21:37] <tbruff13> super: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads
[21:37] <bean> easypie: not sure. it's probably in 'man sudoers' somewhere
[21:37] <tbruff13> all powerpc portws
[21:37] <phil_phys> ok
[21:37] <ikonia> livingdaylight: run the tests I've suggested, that may give you an idea to any possible hardware problems, we can move forward from there
[21:37] <ikonia> livingdaylight: it's worth while
[21:37] <livingdaylight> ikonia, http://www.stresslinux.org/sl/ these guys, yes?
[21:37] <urlin2u> phil_phys, do you understand my last post?
[21:38] <ikonia> livingdaylight: that's the stuff
[21:38] <bullgard4> In Ubuntu 10.04.3 there is a file /usr/share/app-install/desktop/conduit.desktop. In Ubuntu 11.10 this file is named /usr/share/app-install/desktop/conduit:conduit.desktop. What is the reason for this change of name?
[21:38] <ikonia> bullgard4: why does it matter ?
[21:38] <ikonia> bullgard4: it's a file name
[21:38] <livingdaylight> ikonia, thx
[21:38] <nick5556> bean about the guest session.. not to remove it from the shutdown menu but how to remove it or disable it
[21:38] <nick5556> two different things
[21:38] <bean> nick5556: it should be the same thing.
[21:38] <gaussblurinc> hello! how to update system from 10.04 to 11.04 ( sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade  doesn't work :( ) maybe some repositaries  or somethin' .. ?
[21:38] <bean> in general, that's not you remove it. nick5556.
[21:39] <nick5556> no i said disable it. ubuntu can switch to multi users without logging off
[21:39] <urlin2u> gaussblurinc, you have to go to 10.10 first
[21:39] <nick5556> what if someone logs as a guest without my permission ?
[21:39] <nick5556> and his account is active at the background
[21:39] <bean> nick5556: I think you're a little more paranoid than it's worth
[21:39] <gaussblurinc> urlin2u: thank you, how to do this?
[21:39] <nick5556> bean i think i want to play it safe
[21:39] <nick5556> i rather not give someone the chance to play games on me
[21:40] <urlin2u> gaussblurinc, what does the update manager show?
[21:40] <VCoolio> !upgrade | gaussblurinc
[21:40] <bean> nick5556: no one is going to 'hack you' from your guest session, they could hardly do anything anyways
[21:40] <nick5556> bean what if someone joins locally from it
[21:40] <gaussblurinc> thank you!
[21:40] <bean> nick5556: what, you mean while you're not on the computer?
[21:40] <nick5556> yeah not near the computer
[21:41] <bean> nick5556: sudo apt-get remove gdm-guest-session
[21:41] <VCoolio> gaussblurinc: update && upgrade updates repo list and upgrades installed packages, doesn't change to next ubuntu release, do-release-upgrade for that or use update-manager
[21:41] <bean> will disable guest
[21:41] <bean> in general
[21:41] <nick5556> ok
[21:41] <nick5556> that's better
[21:41] <nick5556> i know about that service
[21:41] <bean> no, thats exactly what I told you before.
[21:41] <bean> you just didnt read the link, nick5556
[21:41] <nick5556> no you never told me that before
[21:41] <nick5556> you said remove the " logon as guest " from the menu
[21:41] <bean> nick5556: google is a great help for questions like that: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28165/how-do-i-remove-the-guest-session-option-from-the-shutdown-menu
[21:41] <nick5556> that's not disabling it
[21:41] <bean> nick5556: SEE HOW IT SAYS HALF WAY DOWN THE PAGE THE SAME COMMAND!
[21:42] <nick5556> next time give me the summary
[21:42] <ikonia> nick5556: - start listening, or stop wasting time
[21:42] <bean> that's not my job, nick5556, not everyone in life will read for you.
[21:42] <urlin2u> lol ikonia
[21:42] <ikonia> nick5556: you're call, people are here to help you, you are not adding value by just asking for help but not reading the help you are given
[21:42] <bean> seriously, I should just be done with this channel, before some lunatic decides that he needs to have his hand held through googling.
[21:42] <ikonia> your
[21:43] <IamHe> why can't i see images on a mounted ntfs hard drive in ubuntu live cd
[21:43] <ikonia> bean: it will stop now, calm down
[21:43] <nick5556> ikonia it's 1:40 after midnigh
[21:43] <ikonia> IamHe: check your nautilus settings
[21:43] <ikonia> nick5556: I don't care the time
[21:43] <nick5556> so i don't need to go to sites right now
[21:43] <ikonia> nick5556: then don't ask now
[21:43] <nick5556> you know tell me.. not google serach
[21:43] <nick5556> i can do that by my own
[21:43] <ikonia> nick5556: wait until you can visit the sites so you can get help
[21:43] <ikonia> nick5556: then do it on your own
[21:43] <ikonia> but either way, stop wasting peoples time
[21:44] <bean> nick5556:  this is what i said before "google is a great help for questions like that: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28165/how-do-i-remove-the-guest-session-option-from-the-shutdown-menu"
[21:44] <bean> note: google is a great help
[21:44] <bean> as in
[21:44] <bean> you can google it.
[21:44] <ikonia> bean: ok - he's got the url now, lets move on
[21:45] <IamHe> Where do I access my nautilus settings?
[21:45] <ikonia> IamHe: it's in the settings menu, it shows things like a size must be $X ammount of size, or on a "local" file system, things like that
[21:45] <Hovertac> Hello?
[21:45] <jsec> Is gm-notify considered a supported package here, or would I have to find a method of support more specific to the package?
[21:45] <ikonia> jsec: is it in the ubuntu repo ?
[21:46] <nick5556> ikonia now he told me to remove the guest gnome session
[21:46] <ikonia> jsec: (I don't know the package so tough to say without more info)
[21:46] <nick5556> and that's what i did on synaptic
[21:46] <Hovertac> am I able to get help here?
[21:46] <ikonia> nick5556: if you don't read the link, I suggest you stop talking
[21:46] <ikonia> Hovertac: just ask a question
[21:46] <jsec> ikonia: ah nvm answered my own ? then. it's through a PPA
[21:46] <urlin2u> Hovertac, ask a question a see.
[21:46] <BetaBrain> hi everybody
[21:46] <urlin2u> and
[21:46] <chreekat> I am trying to use mpd, but I don't need a headless server. I just want to use ncmpp+mpd instead of banshee. However, I haven't found directions for hooking mpd with pulseaudio that seem to work. Has anyone attempted this?
[21:46] <ikonia> jsec: ppa's are normally supported by their maintainers
[21:47] <jsec> ikonia: ok i'll go search them out then. thnx
[21:47] <nick5556> hey.. i appericate your help but don't tell me to go read sites.. not right now
[21:47] <ikonia> jsec: contact details normally on the web pate
[21:47] <Hovertac> I ran the fixplymouth script (http://launchpadlibrarian.net/57638460/fixplymouth) in an attempt to change the boot splash screen, unfortunately after reboot nothing shows up on the screen after choosing something from grub
[21:47] <ikonia> Hovertac: that fixplymouth script has caused issues for many people
[21:47] <Hovertac> Crap.
[21:48] <Hovertac> Can I reverse the effects?
[21:48] <mrdeb> hi, does ubuntu work with via gpu
[21:48] <mrdeb> ?
[21:48] <Hovertac> I can't boot into recovery mood either
[21:48] <ikonia> not really looked into it
[21:48] <Hovertac> mode*
[21:48] <ikonia> mrdeb: not really, needs an x86/x86_64 arch really
[21:48] <ManDay> ikonia: debootstrap --arch=amd64 natty root I: Retrieving Release I: Retrieving Packages I: Validating Packages E: Couldn't download dists/natty/main/binary-amd64/Packages
[21:48] <mrdeb> huh
[21:48] <sskalnik> What is an optimal tftp solution for Ubuntu?
[21:48] <ManDay> So much for natty being all well supported!
[21:48] <Hovertac> If I boot from the live CD, could I easily reverse the changes?
[21:48] <ikonia> ManDay: why are you not installing it like a normal person,
[21:48] <ikonia> sskalnik: tftpd is as good as it gets
[21:48] <sskalnik> ikonia:  Thanks
[21:49] <NetRunnerBlack> On 11.10, is it possible to add a wine program to the sidebar?
[21:49] <jutnux> ManDay: Why are you trying to be as awkward as possible?
[21:49] <jsec> ikonia: I've submitted a question through their site, but a question for further reference. If the version of *buntu I am running lists the package through a PPA, but later versions have been included in an official repo, does my version qualify for support here?
[21:49] <ikonia> jsec: if you are using a package that is provided by the repo in your version, sure
[21:50] <ikonia> jsec: if the version you are using requires a PPA - then no
[21:50] <jsec> ikonia: k thanks for the help. much appreciated.
[21:50] <ikonia> jsec: not a problem
[21:51] <IamHe> ikonia.. when i browse through the files in bash.. ls -la shows no images as well
[21:51] <ikonia> IamHe: ls -la is a command prompt, it doesn't display images
[21:51] <IamHe> right
[21:51] <IamHe> but the file names arent there
[21:51] <ikonia> IamHe: oh, I see
[21:51] <IamHe> as in no image files
[21:51] <Hovertac> Ah, sweet. I found a script to reverse the changes.
[21:51] <IamHe> just folders
[21:51] <Hovertac> Thanks.
[21:51] <ikonia> IamHe: can you pastebin the output of "ls -la" into a pastebin
[21:51] <IamHe> sure
[21:51] <ikonia> IamHe: easier to talk about it if we both see the same thing
[21:52] <VCoolio> chreekat: try the script here: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=123515
[21:52] <puff> What does update-alternatives do?
[21:52] <ikonia> puff: changes the default command for certain command line options
[21:52] <ikonia> or daemons
[21:53] <chreekat> VCoolio: I'll check it out, thanks
[21:53] <puff> ikonia: I'm setting up java to be used by firefox as a plugin, do I need update-alternatives?
[21:53] <ikonia> puff: if the java binary you want is not linked to "java" then yes
[21:54] <IamHe> ikonia, the My PIctures folder shows a ll the folders that I had images in.. but when i try to list the images within the folder.. it only gives me the . and .., this happens for all of them unless some folers had other folders, then it shows those folders as well
[21:54] <ikonia> IamHe: can you pastebin me an example as asked
[21:55] <IamHe> Ikonia: I can't because its on my other computer that doesn't have internet access atm. .I
[21:55] <IamHe> I
[21:56] <IamHe> l'll type it out real quick
[21:56] <ikonia> don't bother
[21:56] <IamHe> drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 2010-11-28 18:50 .
[21:56] <ikonia> IamHe: so if you do "ls -la" in the directory you you only see . and ..
[21:56] <IamHe> and drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 65536 and a date and time and ..
[21:57] <IamHe> yah.
[21:57] <ikonia> IamHe: no files there then
[21:57] <IamHe> none
[21:57] <IamHe> just folders if there are some
[21:57] <ikonia> then there are no files in there
[21:57] <ikonia> IamHe: how did you mount the disk ?
[21:57] <IamHe> ubuntu did it for me... then i tried the forced mount ntfs .. same thing
[21:58] <ikonia> IamHe: define a forced mount and why did you do that
[21:58] <phil_phys> dear friends why can I do increase windows partition and not ubuntu partition?
[21:58] <ikonia> phil_phys: use gparted from a livecd to re-size
[21:58] <phil_phys> i can add space from left
[21:58] <IamHe> well ubuntu did it for me.. but no images.. so then i did mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda /media/disk -o force
[21:58] <IamHe> and it mounted it.. but same result
[21:58] <phil_phys> not from right where i have ubuntu 11.10
[21:58] <IamHe> idk.. just saw it on a tutorial
[21:58] <ikonia> phil_phys: no
[21:58] <ikonia> phil_phys: use a livecd
[21:58] <phil_phys> i selected swap off
[21:59] <phil_phys> i'm using a live cd
[21:59] <phil_phys> with gparted
[21:59] <ikonia> phil_phys: whats the issue then
[21:59] <phil_phys> i can modify windows space but no ubuntu
[21:59] <ikonia> phil_phys: unmount the ubuntu partition
[22:00] <phil_phys> i cliccked right on swap
[22:00] <phil_phys> off
[22:00] <ikonia> IamHe: you have mounted a disk, not a partition
[22:00] <ikonia> phil_phys: not what i said
[22:00] <IamHe> alright unmounted
[22:00] <phil_phys> i don't want to lose my data
[22:00] <ikonia> IamHe: /dev/sda is the disk - you need /dev/sda1/sda2 whatever
[22:00] <ikonia> phil_phys: unmount the ubuntu partition
[22:00] <phil_phys> what does it mean unmount
[22:00] <ikonia> !gparted
[22:00] <IamHe> oh ok unmounted it
[22:00] <matteosara> ciao
[22:00] <ikonia> !partition | phil_phys
[22:00] <matteosara> !list
[22:01] <phil_phys> i don't want to lose my data
[22:01] <phil_phys> i don't have an hard disk
[22:01] <ikonia> phil_phys: you've said that
[22:01] <ikonia> phil_phys: you don't have a hard disk'??? then what are you trying to partiton
[22:01] <phil_phys> how can i do so?
[22:01] <phil_phys> i don't have an external hard disk
[22:01] <ikonia> phil_phys: what has that got to do with anything ?
[22:01] <phil_phys> i want to extend ubuntu partition
[22:02] <ikonia> phil_phys: ok - you need to make sure your disks are not mounted, and there is free space available NEXT to the partition you want to resize
[22:02] <phil_phys> i cannot modify the dimension of ubuntu partition
[22:02] <ikonia> phil_phys: repeating the same thing won't change anything, I've read that, and I'm advising you what to do
[22:02] <phil_phys> there is free space
[22:02] <phil_phys> but i cannot increase ubuntu space
[22:03] <ikonia> phil_phys: 1.) make sure the partitions are unmounted 2.) make sure there is free space NEXT to the partition you want to resize
[22:03] <phil_phys> how can i do to unmount?
[22:03] <ikonia> phil_phys: right click the partitions in gparted, there is normally an unmount option
[22:03] <phil_phys> the free space is on the left of ubuntu partition
[22:04] <phil_phys> i can only shrink it and not increase the space
[22:04] <ikonia> phil_phys: make sure there is freespace NEXT to the partition you want to restore
[22:04] <ikonia> phil_phys: ok, I'm not interested in helping you any more as you just repeat the same thing over and over
[22:04] <ikonia> phil_phys: good luck
[22:04] <phil_phys> will i lose my data with unmount?
[22:04] <phil_phys> ok thank you
[22:04] <phil_phys> tell me only if i can lose my data
[22:05] <LjL> ikonia: if he can shrink it, then it's not mounted, is it? otherwise he wouldn't be able to work on it at all
[22:05] <phil_phys> please
[22:05] <LjL> phil_phys: of course you can. resizing partitions is a dangerous operation.
[22:05] <ikonia> LjL: not sure to be honest
[22:05] <phil_phys> i can shrink it but not increase it
[22:05] <ikonia> LjL: I thought you could shrink a mounted partition in gparted as long as there is file system space, it won't take effect until the next reboot
[22:05] <ikonia> but you can't grow it as the partition boundries would be exceeded
[22:05] <LjL> phil_phys: perhaps try moving it to the left first, and then resizing?
[22:06] <LjL> ikonia: oh, i see
[22:06] <arand> Which is the default icon size for the Unity launcher, x64, x72, x96?
[22:06] <phil_phys> i don't know how to put it on the left
[22:06] <LjL> phil_phys: but anyway if you're scared of losing your data, *don't do this*. resizing partitions is *dangerous*. have a backup.
[22:06] <phil_phys> on the left i have windows partition
[22:06] <LjL> phil_phys: didn't you just say you had free space on the left?
[22:07] <phil_phys> for a backup i need an hard disk external?
[22:07] <LjL> phil_phys: or a DVD, or a USB key, or something.
[22:07] <phil_phys> the free space is in the middle
[22:07] <phil_phys> between windows (left) and ubuntu (right)
[22:07] <LjL> phil_phys: like this? | Windows partition | Free space | Ubuntu partition |
[22:07] <phil_phys> yes
[22:08] <urlin2u> phil_phys, the area between showed a partition in the screen shot you posted
[22:08] <LjL> oh there is a screenshot? lemme see...
[22:08] <phil_phys> yes
[22:08] <phil_phys> i clicked right on swap off as you suggested to me
[22:08] <c_smith> hello, I was wondering how to put an Ubuntu 11.10 ISO onto a flash drive without using a USB Creator tool? I read that the ISOs are now Hybrid USB/CD images, but never could figure out how to put it directly on the USB Flash Drive,
[22:08] <urlin2u> phil_phys, when you say free space it will be interpreted as unallocated be careful how you word it.
[22:09] <phil_phys> yes it's unallocated
[22:09] <ikonia> there we go, no free space
[22:09] <urlin2u> phil_phys, you deleted that partition that was there?
[22:09] <phil_phys> yes
[22:09] <phil_phys> i deleted the partition in the middle
[22:09] <c_smith> the reason I would like to do this is I'm going back to Ubuntu from Kubuntu, and Kubuntu's USB creator doesn't work that well.
[22:10] <urlin2u> phil_phys, okay so where are you at now in the process?
[22:10] <ikonia> there is no free space
[22:10] <phil_phys> i'm on ubuntu partition the one on the right
[22:11] <urlin2u> phil_phys, you have to exspand the extended first the sda4
[22:11] <phil_phys> ikonia: there is free space
[22:11] <ikonia> there is not free space
[22:12] <iToast> Does ubuntu support php grabbing the system load and more?
[22:12] <urlin2u> phil_phys, I would post another screenshot of gparted, you would have had to deleted that middle sda3 since we last talked.
[22:12] <ikonia> iToast: php grabbing the sytem load ???
[22:12] <chreekat> I forgot who showed me the mpd thread on the arch forum, but thanks! I now have a pulsified mpd. In retrospect, I realize I shouldn't have made mpd run globally.
[22:12] <iToast> ikonia: Yes.
[22:12] <iToast> Get system load and temp
[22:12] <phil_phys> urlin2u: I tried to expand sda5 not sda4
[22:12] <ikonia> iToast: php can do anything you tell it to do
[22:12] <iToast> Does ubuntu support it?
[22:12] <iToast> ok
[22:13] <ikonia> sda4 is extended - you cannot expand it
[22:13] <ikonia> there is no space
[22:13] <urlin2u> phil_phys, you have to do the extended first, are you sure the middle partition is gone as well you see free space in gparted?
[22:13] <iToast> <?php MakeMeASandwich(GRILLED_CHEESE); ?>
[22:13] <Raliegh> Mmkay, so Apache2 blows ass and won't get rid of the stupid "It Works" page. Was told to come in here to ask where the default location for 'httpd' is on Ubuntu 11
[22:13] <mark__> hi
[22:13] <iToast> <?php MakeMeASandwich(GRILLED_CHEESE); ?> does not work ikonia
[22:13] <iToast> You lied!
[22:13] <phil_phys> send me the link of imagebin
[22:13] <phil_phys> please
[22:13] <ikonia> iToast: stop iot
[22:13] <ikonia> it
[22:13] <iToast> ...
[22:13] <ikonia> Raliegh: which httpd will show you where httpd is
[22:13] <iToast> You >:O
[22:13] <iToast> Anyways, can i?
[22:14] <Raliegh> Do what?
[22:14] <ikonia> iToast: can you what ?
[22:14] <ikonia> Raliegh: "which httpd"
[22:14] <iToast> it*
[22:14] <Raliegh> Apache2 as I said.
[22:14] <ikonia> Raliegh: httpd is apache2
[22:14] <phil_phys> the extended has no dimension
[22:15] <iToast> how to restart the apache dameon
[22:15] <phil_phys> urlin2u: How can i expand extended?
[22:15] <iToast> its /etc/init.d/apache2 restart right?
[22:15] <LjL> iToast: sudo what you said
[22:15] <iceroot> iToast: sudo service apache2 restart
[22:15] <ikonia> iToast: sudo service apache2 restart
[22:16] <iceroot> iToast: to slow
[22:16] <iceroot> ...
[22:16] <urlin2u> phil_phys, the extended is the container of the sda5 and sda6. Dis=d you remove the sda3 since we last spoke?
[22:16] <iToast> tO.o
[22:16] <iToast> How am i the too slow one
[22:16] <iToast> Ty iCE
[22:16] <iToast> ice*
[22:16] <iceroot> iToast: was for ikonia
[22:16] <FloodBot1> iToast: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:16] <iToast> wt
[22:16] <iToast> wtf*
[22:16] <ikonia> iToast: tone down the language please.
[22:17] <phil_phys> urlin2u: If you give me the imagebin i will show to you now
[22:17] <iToast> I didn't swear O.o
[22:17] <urlin2u> !imagebin | phil_phys
[22:17] <ikonia> !wtf > iToast
[22:17] <iToast> Anyways, whats the command to get system load proccesses and temp
[22:17] <bobweaver> how can I connect to a mssql data base using ubuntu ?
[22:17] <ikonia> iToast: lmsensors
[22:17] <iToast> wtf isn't swaring, :p
[22:17] <ikonia> bobweaver: microsoft sql you mean ?
[22:18] <bobweaver> ikonia:  Yes sir \
[22:18] <LjL> iToast: it's not considered acceptable here, so please refrain from using it
[22:18] <iToast> Its a acronym, Technicality
[22:18] <MrMondo> o hai
[22:18] <ikonia> iToast: check the pm from ubottu
[22:18] <iToast> I did ---
[22:18] <ikonia> bobweaver: connect in what way,
[22:18] <bobweaver> ??
[22:18] <iToast> lmsensors seems to do nothing on my install
[22:18] <bobweaver> with mysql admin ?>
[22:18] <iToast> Or is that a package?
[22:18] <ikonia> iToast: probably not installed
[22:18] <iToast> apt-get install lmsensors?
[22:18] <ikonia> bobweaver: ok - mysqladmin won't allow you to connect to ms sql
[22:18] <LjL> iToast: the package is "lm-sensors", the command is "sensors"
[22:18] <iToast> ah
[22:18] <iToast> Ty
[22:19] <iToast> Il install it.
[22:19] <bobweaver> !mssql
[22:19] <ikonia> iToast: you may do well to read https://help.ubuntu.com for an introduction to ubuntu and some of the things it can do and how to do them
[22:19] <bobweaver> :>(
[22:19] <ikonia> bobweaver: do you want to connect to it within an application, or some sort of admin gui
[22:19] <bobweaver> some sorta gui
[22:19] <iToast> ikonia: I've used ubuntu but never tried this before, as ubuntu didnt reconize the sensors before.
[22:19] <bobweaver> or some sort cli
[22:19] <phil_phys> urlin2u:http://imagebin.org/189430
[22:20] <phil_phys> urlin2u: http://imagebin.org/189430
[22:20] <ikonia> bobweaver: not many options really (maybe lucky with a web interface) but mssql requires service type administration commands that don't exist in linux
[22:20] <ikonia> bobweaver: there may also be a mono app - but I'm not aware of anything existing
[22:20] <LjL> phil_phys: you need to resize the extended partition first, and then resize the partitions contained in it
[22:20] <iToast> ikonia: Perfect, you found what i needed!
[22:20] <iToast> I need to proccess data.
[22:20] <bobweaver> thanks ikonia
[22:20] <ikonia> bobweaver: sorry it's not what you wanted
[22:20] <iToast> Also, quick question for all the ubuntu experts, how to i stess test my ubuntu machine
[22:21] <urlin2u> phil_phys, you can't change the sda4 sda5 while being booted into the ubuntu?
[22:21] <bobweaver> I will look in mono dev
[22:21] <LjL> iToast: depends on which components you want to stress test.
[22:21] <iToast> LjL: I wan't to perform a overall reliability stress test
[22:21] <iToast> LjL: There's a package for that isn't there...
[22:21] <urlin2u> phil_phys, you need a live cd to exspand them.
[22:22] <OerHeks> bobweaver, sudo apt-get install mysql-admin mysql-query-browser >> Both of these are desktop apps
[22:22] <LjL> iToast: look into "cpuburn", "memtest86+" and "smartmontools"
[22:22] <ikonia> OerHeks: for Microsoft SQL databases ?
[22:22] <LjL> iToast: CPU, RAM and HDD respectively.
[22:22] <improveupon> question: s.m.a.r.t. data monitoring tool gsmartcontrol has performed an extended test on my laptop's hard drive and the result is "completed with read failure." there is also a log. can anyone tell me, do i need a new drive?
[22:23] <LjL> improveupon: what does "smartctl -H /dev/yourdrive" say?
[22:23] <urlin2u> phil_phys, your swap ks also still mounted along with the sda4 and sda5 see the keys in the information line next to them. Yoiu need to boot a live cd unmount the swap so you see no keys exspand the sda4 first then the sda5.
[22:23] <OerHeks> ikonia i don't think so, i understood bobweaver uses lamp
[22:23] <phil_phys> ok
[22:24] <iToast> LjL: apt-get install cpuburn
[22:24] <ikonia> OerHeks: no, he wanted microsoft SQL databases
[22:25] <improveupon> LjL: that should be like "/dev/hda" not "/dev/hda1" correct?
[22:25] <OerHeks> ikonia sorry, my bad.
[22:25] <ikonia> OerHeks: it's not a problem
[22:25] <bobweaver> OerHeks:  no I am not using lamp right now
[22:25] <bobweaver> I am on windoz server
[22:26] <ikonia> bobweaver: Windows Server
[22:26] <bobweaver> thanks you guys I have too go
[22:26] <bobweaver> what ever
[22:27] <LjL> improveupon: correct
[22:28] <improveupon> LjL: it says "Permission denied". should i use chmod?
[22:29] <LjL> improveupon: no, use sudo. sudo smartctl -H /dev/hda
[22:30] <mohammad> hi
[22:31] <Guest65667> i don't know how to use this app
[22:31] <Guest65667> ?
[22:31] <LjL> which app
[22:31] <improveupon> LjL: SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
[22:31] <LjL> improveupon: ok, that's at least a good sign. but let's investigate further. "sudo smartctl -A /dev/hda" and pastebin the output
[22:32] <Guest65667> who are you ?
[22:32] <bean> Guest65667: then close it?
[22:32] <improveupon> what is the pastebin?
[22:32] <LjL> Guest65667: does that matter? we're here to help and be helped with Ubuntu.
[22:33] <LjL> !paste | improveupon
[22:34] <mcbaine1>  
[22:34] <MrPumpkincitis> trying to send a pic on my desktop to usr/share/backgrounds via the command line and keep getting this error message 'missing destination file operand'. What does this mean?
[22:35] <improveupon> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu.com/775788/
[22:35] <improveupon> afk
[22:35] <LjL> MrPumpkincitis: the right command is something like: cp ~/Desktop/MyPic.jpeg /usr/share/backgrounds/
[22:35] <LjL> MrPumpkincitis: with sudo
[22:35] <Guest65667> ...
[22:36] <LjL> improveupon: uhm, i expected a different output. are you sure you typed -A and not -H again?
[22:36] <Guest65667> i want to install softhsm on my ubuntu , but it's so hard . could anyone help me with it ?
[22:36] <MrPumpkincitis> LjL: I was not putting the forward slash at the end of backgrounds
[22:36] <mcbaine1> using xchat now ....
[22:37] <LjL> Guest65667: tried going to a terminal and typing "sudo apt-get install softhsm"?
[22:37] <LjL> !software > Guest65667
[22:37] <Guest65667> it's not that easy my  friend , after that it shows a lot of errors
[22:38] <LjL> Guest65667: pastebin the errors then
[22:38] <Guest65667> just a sec please
[22:39] <Guest65667> it says "error: Missing the correct version of the Botan library"
[22:41] <Guest65667> ok , thanks anyway
[22:42] <andygraybeal> how do i get fan rpm in the top indicator bar?
[22:42] <andygraybeal> something like next to the battery charge percentage
[22:44] <MrPumpkincitis> LjL: cp ~/Desktop/MyPic.jpeg /usr/share/backgrounds/   this did not work so not sure what I am doing incorrectly
[22:45] <MrPumpkincitis> LjL: is there supposed to be spaces before and/or after the slashes?
[22:46] <skegeek> I right-clicked on channel tab, but I cannot find anything about Favorites
[22:46] <skegeek> Oops.
[22:46] <Kaapa> hello everyone. I have a toshiba portege, where everytihng works almost out of the box. Only caveat is that when I suspend / hibernate and wake up, to get display I need to switch to another VT and back to vt7
[22:47] <pp7> ke
[22:47] <pp7> oops
[22:48] <lisa_> hello
[22:48] <skegeek> I'm trying to solve Ubuntu freezing when idle. I've already disabled Compiz, turned off screen saver, and disabled power control. What should I try next?
[22:48] <Krywk> Hey people!
[22:48] <pp7> Kaapa: http://pastebin.com/jjC3yrGR
[22:48] <skegeek> I've noticed Many others have had this problem, but there fixes haven't worked for me.
[22:48] <Krywk> I'm here to ask help like a beggar.
[22:48] <lisa_> good
[22:48] <genii-around> !details | Krywk
[22:49] <tjiggi_fo> andygraybeal, if you're ok about using a ppa: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/indicator-sensors-displays-cpu.html
[22:49] <lisa_> go  to  school
[22:49] <ikonia> lisa_: ?
[22:49] <andygraybeal> tigi thank you
[22:49] <andygraybeal> tjiggi_fo, thank you
[22:50] <Krywk> I have a problem with AUDIO. Ubuntu 9.10 i386 32bits. When I removed pulseaudio and installed esound, the volume control went missing. Now I try to install pulseaudio and remove esound, but it throws "Continue installing without verification?" I type Y, but then it says "404 not found".
[22:50] <Kaapa> pp7: thanks
[22:50] <pp7> np
[22:50] <xangua> Krywk: 9.10 is no longer supported, try a supported version
[22:50] <pp7> Kaapa: it just does the same thing
[22:50] <pp7> after resume
[22:51] <paulsomebody> Do anyone here knows if it is possible to use 'xinput' to map one of the mouse buttons to the multiple key combination?
[22:51] <Krywk> I'm sorry, but I'm not planning to switch to a newer version, since I am rightfully happy with this one.
[22:51] <Krywk> And I'd prefer fixing the problem rather than searching an easy exit.
[22:51] <anavarro> Hi guys.. I don't know why I have no tar application installed
[22:51] <anavarro> Is there any way to reinstall tar?
[22:52] <xangua> Krywk: then as you can undertand, your version is unsupported an so are the repositories, you are on your own
[22:52] <anavarro> All my updates are failing because of that
[22:52] <genii-around> Krywk: Most likely your /etc/apt/sources.list   file has entries which now are invalid URLs since 9.10 is End-Of-Life
[22:53] <Krywk> I just want to reinstall pulseaudio.
[22:53] <Krywk> Isn't there a workaround?
[22:53] <OpenGL> hi, I have an issue with my ubuntu 10.04 install.  Im trying to alter/delay startup of a certain service because another service it relies on isnt running in time when it loads at startup meaning it isnt starting correctly
[22:53] <Kaapa> pp7: and, working!
[22:53] <pp7> Kaapa: glad I could help :)
[22:54] <paulsomebody> anavarro: I think the repositories for this version is simply no longer supported, it is not LTS>
[22:54] <genii-around> Krywk: replace all instances of archive.ubuntu.com  with old-releases.ubuntu.com
[22:54] <Kaapa> pp7: I assume it's expecting too much for you to know why my screen brightness only works after a resume / hibernation, right? :ppp
[22:54] <Krywk> Gonna try that!
[22:54] <pp7> Kaapa: yep, too much :P
[22:55] <Kaapa> thanks anyway!
[22:55] <pp7> Kaapa: what gfx card?
[22:55] <genii-around> Krywk: After that you're on your own
[22:55] <anavarro> paulsomebody: What am I going to do now?
[22:55] <Krywk> Ok..
[22:55] <maxam> hello
[22:55] <oneliner> hello there, i have a host machine running a virtual machine, now the virtual machine can access the network, but i wonder what do i need to do to make it allow incoming ssh(it already has ssh server up)
[22:55] <geoffmcc> OpenGL: is this something you added using startup applications?
[22:56] <anavarro> paulsomebody: I don't want to reinstall ubuntu just because of that.
[22:56] <Kaapa> pp7, it's this issue: http://is.gd/cwZu7g
[22:56] <Kaapa> dunno if it's related to the card
[22:56] <skegeek> So, any help for Ubuntu idle freezing with Compiz, screen saver, and monitor power saving all disabled???
[22:56] <OpenGL> i added an extra service which starts perfectly... once ubuntu loads if I restart the dependent service it starts perfect every time but during boot this doesnt work...
[22:57] <anavarro> paulsomebody: There is no deb package or a bin to install tar?
[22:57] <pp7> Kaapa: must be some driver not working properly
[22:57] <OpenGL> that was @ geoffmcc
[22:57] <paulsomebody> anavarro: You can do as genii-around suggests, but using an unsupported release is a bad idea from my point of view. Why not to upgrade to 10.04? It is LTS, which means that you will get security updates and support until 2013.
[22:58] <skegeek> Would it be better to ask in the forums? I don't usually post to them because I don't like waiting a long time.
[22:58] <anavarro> paulsomebody: I have 11.04 already.
[22:58] <paulsomebody> anavarro: Oh, sorry.
[22:59] <geoffmcc> OpenGL: what i was going to suggest is throwing a sleep command in, if you were using startup applications, but i dont think thats what your looking for
[22:59] <anavarro> paulsomebody: I guess I did something terrible and I deleted the file or something like that.
[22:59] <skegeek> anavarro: If you're trying to install the tar compression utility, why not use apt-get?
[22:59] <paulsomebody> anavarro: Can you simply install it back via synaptic?
[23:00] <skegeek> I would think so, but I haven't personally tried.
[23:00] <andygraybeal> tjiggi_fo, running indicator-sensors thanks!
[23:00] <Krywk> genii-around
[23:00] <Krywk> I LOVE YOU.
[23:00] <anavarro> skegeek: I did that.
[23:00] <Krywk> It worked like a charm.
[23:00] <FloodBot1> Krywk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:00] <tjiggi_fo> andygraybeal, :)
[23:00] <anadon> What's a CLI tool to check download speed?
[23:01] <anavarro> skegeek: It fails because of him self :S
[23:01] <genii-around> Krywk: Good. Bus as I said, after that you are on your own. That repository will never be updated, because it has been archived after 9.10 went past End-Of-Life
[23:01] <andygraybeal> tjiggi_fo, i just installed 'indicator weather' also!!
[23:01] <Krywk> I know.
[23:01] <Krywk> Still, I love you.
[23:01] <Krywk> :3
[23:01] <OpenGL> geoffmcc, the issue is exactly this... this is a mythtv pvr and one of my sources relies on extra software to work.  ive scripted the start up of that and added it into start up.  this works perfectly however the mythbackend is starting before the decoding software has initalised meaning it doesnt pick up all sources untill I manually restart it after linux loads...
[23:01]  * genii-around makes more coffee
[23:01] <Krywk> Kthxbai
[23:02] <anavarro> It says "dpkg: warning: 'tar' not found in PATH or not executable."
[23:02] <paulsomebody> anavarro: Well, what are you trying to do?
[23:02] <anavarro> trying to install tar utility
[23:02] <OpenGL> anavarro, thats like trying to install winzip from a zip archive...
[23:02] <paulsomebody> anavarro: Run in terminal 'sudo apt-get install tar', without quotes.
[23:03] <anavarro> If I do sudo apt-get install tar
[23:03] <paulsomebody> This is a funny situation.
[23:03] <anavarro> yes
[23:03] <anavarro> weird
[23:03] <paulsomebody> I can offer you to go to the getdeb and grab a .deb package from there…
[23:03] <anavarro> I might be something else
[23:04] <paulsomebody> But isn't the .deb package an archive itself?
[23:04] <anavarro> It might be something else
[23:04] <anavarro> I don't know...
[23:04] <anadon> What's a CLI tool to check download speed?
[23:04] <OpenGL> anadon, wget
[23:04] <paulsomebody> anavarro: Okay. Open the Software Center and the search for 'tar'.
[23:04] <geoffmcc> OpenGL: is the startup script for the backend in /etc/rc2.d ?
[23:04] <anavarro> ok
[23:04] <anavarro> wait
[23:04] <anadon> OpenGL: thanks
[23:05] <paulsomebody> anavarro: Be sure to click on 'Show technical items'.
[23:05] <paulsomebody> anavarro: Since 'tar' is technical.
[23:05] <paulsomebody> anavarro: And what you were trying to do when you received that error?
[23:05] <OerHeks> why need to instal tar > tar -xjf <filename>  (should be available standard)
[23:05] <xangua> paulsomebody: anavarro you are looking for rar unrar, not tar untar :/
[23:06] <paulsomebody> OerHeks: I don't know myself. :)
[23:06] <anavarro> mmmm nop
[23:06] <anavarro> tar is what it says
[23:06] <anavarro> dpkg: warning: 'tar' not found in PATH or not executable.
[23:06] <anavarro> dpkg: error: 1 expected program not found in PATH or not executable.
[23:06] <anavarro> Note: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and /sbin.
[23:06] <anavarro> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[23:06] <ikonia> OerHeks: tar is installed by default, if it's not, someone has messed up their system
[23:06] <OpenGL> geoffmcc, yes its in rc2.d S99 - I changed it
[23:06] <paulsomebody> anavarro: WHAT exactly were you trying to do when you have got that error?
[23:06] <anavarro> I tried through Software Center and I've got the same error
[23:07] <infeeeee> hello
[23:07] <paulsomebody> anavarro: I would more readily believe in 'path not executable', rather than in 'tar absent'.
[23:07] <anavarro> I've been getting errors trying to update
[23:07] <OpenGL> infeeeee, goodbye?
[23:07] <paulsomebody> !ask | infeeeee
[23:07] <geoffmcc> OpenGL: and whats your script, as s99 will run first
[23:08] <OpenGL> geoffmcc, I thought 99 was last?  so is smaller number later? if so I modified it the wrong way round doh
[23:08] <conntrack> sup
[23:08] <paulsomebody> anavarro: This situation is paradoxical. Since tar will be packed in the .deb, you will need it to install it.
[23:08] <infeeeee> i installed the server version, and it detects the wlan adapter, but it says power managment is off
[23:08] <OpenGL> geoffmcc, the decoding software is S15
[23:08] <anavarro> I know!!
[23:08] <geoffmcc> OpenGL: yes, you wanted to mod your script, not myth
[23:08] <anavarro> But how come?
[23:08] <paulsomebody> anavarro: I suggest you get an Ubuntu Live CD, boot from it and repair it from there.
[23:09] <geoffmcc> OpenGL: my bad, your right, s99 is last.. sorry
[23:09] <OpenGL> geoffmcc, so if I make my script s99 and mythtv s15 it should be OK?
[23:09] <OpenGL> geoffmcc, ah
[23:09] <anavarro> yep, it seems like I have no other option
[23:10] <anavarro> thanks to all of you
[23:10] <grendal-prime> ! java
[23:10] <infeeeee> with which command can i switch on the wlan adapter?
[23:11] <geoffmcc> OpenGL: before i mess up again, your script needs to go first then myth, right
[23:11] <OpenGL> geoffmcc, my script needs to run before mythbackend... if the scripts are run in parrallel my script needs to finish executing before mythtv starts
[23:12] <geoffmcc> OpenGL: yea, it should not be s99 then
[23:12] <infeeeee> pls help me!
[23:13] <improveupon> LjL: sorry, i'm back. did you look at my errors?
[23:13] <paulsomebody> infeeeee: How did your Wlan adapter got turned off at the first place?
[23:13] <OpenGL> infeeeee, patience!
[23:13] <paulsomebody> infeeeee: They are usually turned on automatically.
[23:13] <mhd> why the touchpad stops suddenly
[23:13] <infeeeee> i switched on the computer and it was switched off
[23:14] <OpenGL> geoffmcc, which args at the end of update-rc.d should I use?
[23:15] <Mathias__> I'm wondering why there are two flood bots.
[23:16] <OpenGL> I used sudo update-rc.d -f mythtv-backend remove then sudo update-rc.d mythtv-backend defaults 99 99
[23:16] <OpenGL>  which is evidently incorrect...
[23:18] <OpenGL> geoffmcc, I used 15 15 for the other script
[23:18] <infeeeee> i cant start the computer in normal mode, just in recovery, end than press continue boot, if i just let it boot, the carachters are unreadable
[23:18] <geoffmcc> OpenGL: i dont think you want defaults with it, think it would be something like update-rc.d mythtv-backend start 99
[23:19] <paulsomebody> Mathias__: Too much flood for any given bot to manage on its own? :)
[23:19] <ubuntuuser01> hi
[23:19] <paulsomebody> infeeeee: Why can't you start it? What is the error message? Elaborate, please
[23:19] <ubuntuuser01> I've got xubuntu 10.04 installed on this machine, and recently purchased an nvidia geforce gt520,. installed it into the machine, however "hardware drivers" does not detect the card for auto-install of the drivers >?
[23:20] <ubuntuuser01> I thought nvidia was supposed to be more compatable with ubuntu than ATI ?
[23:20] <conntrack> hi
[23:20] <improveupon> hmm, there is no way to view chat logs just far enough back to see what LjL said last, is there?
[23:20] <infeeeee> no error message, the caracthers has a shadow, i cant read them
[23:20] <ubuntuuser01> !nvidia
[23:21] <ubuntuuser01> should I download the drivers from here ? http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html
[23:21] <OpenGL> http://pastebin.com/LLgz4YeQ it doesnt like that command
[23:22] <ubuntuuser01> it seems these are the same drivers that are "supposed" to be in "hardware drivers", but nothing is in "hardware drivers"
[23:22] <Mathias__> ubuntuuser01: try to open the program to install/remove stuff, click on "Edit", select the stuff about the sources of softwares, and check the box "proprietary drivers"
[23:22] <geoffmcc> OpenGL: yea it wants runlevels i think. i only ever use update-rc.d name.sh defaults
[23:22] <Mathias__> ubuntuuser01: sorry, I've installed ubuntu in french, I don't know how these menus are called in english
[23:23] <ubuntuuser01> Mathias__, the "software sources" ?
[23:23] <paulsomebody> ubuntuuser01: Yes.
[23:23] <ubuntuuser01> I think I need to also disable the onbaord vid. card. maybe hardware drivers will work
[23:23] <ubuntuuser01> paulsomebody, yes what ?
[23:23] <Mathias__> ubuntuuser01: yes, software sources
[23:23] <ubuntuuser01> install the drivers from that site ?
[23:23] <ubuntuuser01> ok guys will try a few things brb
[23:23] <Mathias__> good luck
[23:24]  * conntrack relaxes
[23:24] <trism> improveupon: this message? 17:36 < LjL> improveupon: uhm, i expected a different output. are you sure you typed -A and not -H again?
[23:24]  * conntrack surfs da net
[23:24] <paulsomebody> Mathias__: With any luck we will see him alive and running Ubuntu again. :)
[23:24] <improveupon> LjL: no, i used -H. i will do it again
[23:25] <paulsomebody> infeeeee: I am sorry, but I have got no idea what does that mean. I would suggest taking a photo of you screen after you boot and posting it along with explanation of your problem on ubuntuforum.org — someone should help you.
[23:26] <Mathias__> paulsomebody: drivers work better nowadays, I'm sure he'll be able to make it work without having to edit xorg.conf :-)
[23:26] <improveupon> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu.com/775820/
[23:27] <paulsomebody> Mathias__: I have actually found out that using Nvidia's utility to write custom settings into the xorg.conf is a _very_ useful thing. :)
[23:28] <paulsomebody> Do anyone here knows if it is possible to use 'xinput' to map one of the mouse buttons to the multiple key combination?
[23:28] <paulsomebody> Or any other way how one can _replace_ current mouse button mapping with a combination of keys.
[23:28] <paulsomebody> Google seems to be quite incoherent on this topic.
[23:29] <Mathias__> Good bye, see you again in a few years
[23:30] <paulsomebody> Mathias_: Until you have to upgrade.
[23:32] <improveupon> what is the best way to get the computer to emit play a sound when someone on irc triggers it?
[23:34] <paulsomebody> improveupon: Most chat clients have an option to play sound when you receive messages.
[23:35] <hydester> redhat/centos offers vnc kernel arguments to do remote installs via vnc.  is there something similar to this in ubuntu?
[23:36] <DoctorTruth> hi having probs here with Nvidia GEforce gt520
[23:36] <DoctorTruth> have ubuntu 10.04 installed
[23:36] <tomodach1> hydester: not thatm im aware of sounds awesome though, but i know you can install debian over serial / ssh it thats goode enough for you , then ubuntu should be able to do the same
[23:36] <infeeeee> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12015719/a.JPG http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12015719/b.JPG http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12015719/c.JPG
[23:36] <DoctorTruth> no drivers appear in "hardware drivers" ???????
[23:36] <tomodach1> hydester: you have a link for that redhat vnc kernel stuff_
[23:36] <DoctorTruth> tried to download the .run file (driver) from this place http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html
[23:37] <DoctorTruth> but its saying Error: you appear to be running an X server ??
[23:37] <Tech-1> DoctorTruth:  some times (nvidia-current) in synaptics work
[23:37] <OpenGL> DoctorTruth, you cant run the nvidia thing with the xserver running
[23:37] <OpenGL> run it in rescue mode
[23:38] <DoctorTruth> OpenGL, rescue mode ? ctrl alt f1 ?
[23:38] <Tech-1> DoctorTruth:  and those .run files require you to use black list which i dont invite
[23:38] <OpenGL> DoctorTruth, erm its in the grub menu under each standard kernel
[23:38] <OpenGL> recovery mode maybe?
[23:38] <improveupon> paulsomebody: thank you from a noob
[23:38] <paulsomebody> improveupon: No problem.
[23:38] <Tech-1> brb, din din
[23:39] <DoctorTruth> OpenGL, well I am going to try the "nvidia-current" from synaptic like Tech-1 suggested first
[23:39] <OpenGL> good plan
[23:39] <DoctorTruth> no idea what button to push to get the recovery mode,
[23:39] <DoctorTruth> ok Tech-1 nvidia-current was already installed,
[23:39] <DoctorTruth> so I am going to reinstall
[23:40] <paulsomebody> DoctorTruth: You have to kill the X in order to manually install the Nvidia driver, but this is not recommended, since you will not get updates.
[23:40] <MoMo> is there a way with sed, if i have a group file (/etc/group) to parse just the group name and remove everything to the right starting with the first :
[23:40] <DoctorTruth> paulsomebody, so what the heck does one do with this video card, or ANY video card ??!??!?
[23:41] <DoctorTruth> do I have to buy used old one from craigslist or something ?
[23:41] <DoctorTruth> it was the most basic common one of the shelf
[23:41] <paulsomebody> DoctorTruth: Why would you want to do that?
[23:41] <OpenGL> ok in my /etc/rc5.d directory I have S35decode (which is a custom script) and S99mythbackend yet mythbackend is still starting before my decoding software is ready for it...
[23:41] <DoctorTruth> paulsomebody, so I can use my screen !
[23:41] <DoctorTruth> I can't program drivers myself
[23:41] <paulsomebody> DoctorTruth: You simply install binary proprietary drivers, that is all.
[23:41] <OpenGL> DoctorTruth, what video card?
[23:41] <DoctorTruth> nvidia geforce gt-520
[23:42] <paulsomebody> DoctorTruth: You usually do not have to program drivers youself. :)
[23:42] <OpenGL> just install the binary driver using apt-get or synaptic that should be it
[23:42] <DoctorTruth> ok so I have to kill X and run that .run file
[23:42] <DoctorTruth> OpenGL, you mean nvidia-common ?
[23:42] <OpenGL> no grab it from synaptic... should work for that card
[23:42] <OpenGL> erm sec
[23:42] <DoctorTruth> that was already installed OpenGL
[23:42] <Tech-1> sudo service gdm stop
[23:42] <DoctorTruth> thanks Tech-1
[23:43] <sumosu> where woud i specify spindown timer for a scpecific harddrive. i can do it with hdparm but i would like to automatically execute
[23:43]  * Tech-1 back to dinner
[23:43] <paulsomebody> DoctorTruth: If somethings still does not work, check this guide for mode details. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[23:43] <sumosu> *after bootup
[23:43] <DoctorTruth> yeah paulsomebody did that, but it links me to nvidia's web site, which gives me a .run file,
[23:43] <OpenGL> nvidia-glx-185 i think
[23:43] <DoctorTruth> so
[23:43] <DoctorTruth> OpenGL, shouldn't this be in "hardware drivers" ?
[23:44] <paulsomebody> sumosu: I am not familiar with the utility you mentioned, but I think you can make a bash script and add that to the 'Startup Applications'.
[23:44] <DoctorTruth> usually I get a list of 3 different drivers to select from when I have an nvidia card OpenGL
[23:44] <OpenGL> DoctorTruth, in order to use the run file you will need a build environment set up... hassle... use pre compiled
[23:44] <DoctorTruth> OpenGL,
[23:44] <DoctorTruth> ok so nvidia-glx-185
[23:44] <OpenGL> DoctorTruth, thats how mine works... however installing manually is the other method...
[23:44] <sumosu> paulsomebody: the hdparm needs sudo though, would that still work?
[23:45] <fcuk112> i am trying to dual-boot win7/ubuntu, installed win7 then shrunk a 60gb partition.  installed ubuntu in the remaining space but now it boots into ubuntu only - how do i get it to detect my win7?
[23:45] <paulsomebody> sumosu: Hmm. I don't know how to avoid it asking you for password every boot up, sorry.
[23:45] <sumosu> paulsomebody: ok thx :)
[23:45] <DoctorTruth> ok OpenGL I installed nvidia-glx-185 from synaptic (strange why I would need to even go there, usually hardware drivers has it),
[23:46] <DoctorTruth> but now I need to reset,.
[23:46] <DoctorTruth> brb
[23:49] <almoxarife> fcuk112: does it stop at grub menu?
[23:49] <hydester> tomodach1: probably not the best link, but here: http://www.redhat.com/magazine/024oct06/features/kickstart/
[23:49] <Drak_> can anyone help me? i need to set ports in evolution so i can send/receive emails
[23:50] <fcuk112> almostroot, no there is no grub menu
[23:50] <fcuk112> almoxarife, no there is no grub menu
[23:50] <DoctorTruth> OpenGL, Tech-1 paulsomebody
[23:50] <DoctorTruth> nothing is working I ins talled nvidia-glx-185
[23:50] <DoctorTruth> reset the computer,
[23:50] <almoxarife> fcuk112: you mean when the machine comes on it goes straight to ubuntu log-in?
[23:50] <DoctorTruth> still low graphx mode
[23:50] <fcuk112> almoxarife, yup that is correct
[23:50] <tomodach1> hydester: thnx alot didnt know about this feature so you got me interested!
[23:51] <DoctorTruth> my resolution is stuck at 800x600
[23:51] <paulsomebody> DoctorTruth: Hmm. There must be steps for troubleshooting in the link I gave you, try them.
[23:51] <DoctorTruth> with a brand new nvidia video card
[23:51] <paulsomebody> DoctorTruth: This is regrettable indeed.
[23:51] <DoctorTruth> looks like I have to use that .run file from the nvidia site :(
[23:51] <Onisutra> Hello. I need help with an issue with my mouse automatically moving without my even touching my touchpad.
[23:51] <DoctorTruth> I thought nvidia was the way to go with ubuntu
[23:52] <almoxarife> fcuk112: do this in terminal, "sudo update-grub" , look at the output, do you see anything about win7 listed?
[23:52] <paulsomebody> DoctorTruth: It usually is.
[23:52] <vivian> hello, I need help with wlan0 starting automatically. I used to turn my laptop on and it would connect to my wireless network automatically but it's not happening now as I have to manually select my SSID and connect
[23:52] <fcuk112> almoxarife, i tried that already - no mention of win7
[23:52] <tomodach1> vivian: sounds like a driver problem with your wifi card.
[23:52] <tomodach1> vivian: what model is it_
[23:53] <vivian> the configuration seems to be correct, the "start automatically" check box is checked and I even modified /etc/network/interfaces to auto wlan0 but still
[23:53] <almoxarife> fcuk112: no mention of anything besides ubuntu?
[23:53] <vivian> tomodach1: hold on I"ll check that
[23:53] <tomodach1> vivian: lspci from the terminal should to the trick
[23:53] <paulsomebody> DoctorTruth: If this video card is brand new, this may be the novelty issue. Check Nvidia's forums for reports about similar problems.
[23:53] <fcuk112> almoxarife, nope just linux image, initrd image and memtest86+ image
[23:54] <Onisutra> Well.... touch pad issues with Ubuntu and it is possibly a bug and there is no support for that??
[23:54] <hydester> tomodach1: np.  thanks for the ssh suggestion.  i'll investigate that route, which is probably better than vnc anyway since i want to use the advanced installer anyway
[23:54] <vivian> tomodach1: 09:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[23:54] <Onisutra> Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[23:54] <allballs> Good evening. I just got my replacement PC, a cutesy little Shuttle. It's got Intel graphics chipset built in -- I'm going without previous Nvidia add-on card -- But, I need to know how to reconfigure X to use Intel driver. It loaded fb when I booted from old HD. Help?
[23:54] <tomodach1> hydester: youre welcome, but if you want a more automadet installation maybe debootrap can be something for you
[23:54] <Onisutra> Can anyone at least tell me what file to edit to config my touchpad?
[23:55] <paulsomebody> allballs: Try the 'Additional Drivers' utility, it should help.
[23:55] <vivian> tomodach1: I wonder though why would something go wrong after working properly?
[23:55] <tomodach1> so it used to work?
[23:55] <allballs> paulsomebody: " No proprietary drivers are in use on this system"
[23:55] <almoxarife> fcuk112: familiar with disk utility in system > preferences ?
[23:55] <tomodach1> i automatically think that if its not working its some kind of driver incomaptiblity, network manager not being able to askthe wifi to scan for networks etc
[23:55] <fcuk112> almoxarife, a bit yes
[23:56] <allballs> I have a display, albeit 1024x768 -- I must get rid of dev fb! :)
[23:56] <paulsomebody> If this guy, DoctorTruth returns, please someone, tell him that this looks like a novelty issue. http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=197630
[23:56] <hydester> tomodach1: i'm trying to help a remote guy reinstall a server, so just want him to get to a point where i can drive for him.  it is actually a fairly automated custom iso we made, but some people still can't follow simple instructions
[23:56] <vivian> tomodach1: yes, until the day before yesterday... and it works, don't get me wrong please. It just doesn't connect to the wireless network automatically like it used to :(
[23:56] <allballs> running 11.10, if that helps
[23:56] <paulsomebody> allballs: Let me think.
[23:56] <allballs> paulsomebody: gratzie.
[23:56] <vivian> tomodach1: any idea on how I can solve this?
[23:57] <almoxarife> fcuk112: I am just wondering if the partition for win7 is still there
[23:57] <allballs> fyi: when I hit "displays" util, ... it's less than useful. Lets me go from 1024x768 to 800x600 (w00t!) -- clearly, a limitation of FB driver
[23:57] <fcuk112> almoxarife, it is there.
[23:57] <tomodach1> vivian: dont know really, have you gotten any kernel updates lately? (im going with the driver theory)
[23:57] <allballs> It's been ages since I screwed with video drivers & X -- Ubuntu just makes things sooo easy. So, I'm lost.
[23:58] <hydester> tomodach1: perhaps we'll add a remote option to our iso to leverage the ssh method
[23:58] <vivian> tomodach1: updates happen every now and then as they are available through the "update manager" but I don't recall seeing major kernel updates
[23:58] <tomodach1> sounds like a plan. Some more "expensive" servers
[23:58] <tomodach1> offer remote control interfaces, like IDRAc
[23:58] <hsmod> is there an apt command to show me all the available versions of a pkg?  Such as I'm using oneiric and wanted to list all versions of openssl avail to see if i can downgrade to 0.9.8
[23:59] <Coronade>  
[23:59] <fcuk112> almoxarife, it says /dev/sda1 is mounted at /boot/efi is that correct?
[23:59] <DoctorTruth> paulsomebody, what about this one ?>
[23:59] <DoctorTruth> http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/packages/show/198801
[23:59] <tomodach1> hydester: that allows you to access the framebuffer device, or gfx card even without an os.
[23:59] <DoctorTruth> looks like an aftermarket update for ubuntu just to get this dratted card to work
[23:59] <tomodach1> vivian: sorry out of ideas
[23:59] <vivian> tomodach1: no problem, thanks though
[23:59] <paulsomebody> DoctorTruth: Hey, this looks like novelty issue. http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=197630
[23:59] <almoxarife> fcuk112: efi?
[23:59] <tomodach1> vivian: check the ubuntu forums