[02:47] <len> probably not a shopping channel or market tips either...
[02:48] <len> Anyway, bug filed against aptitude but mentioning synaptic and software source chooser as well.
[02:49] <len> bug #906125 is the one.
[02:50] <micahg> len: that should be against the installer I think, not apt
[02:50] <micahg> or aptitude for that matter
[02:50] <len> I don't think it is the installer.
[02:51] <len> I can install just fine
[02:51] <micahg> well, what add the "CD" entry to the software sources, that's what you need to file against :)
[02:51] <micahg> apt is just going off the sources line it's given
[02:52] <len> It is installing a package after install that is the problem. Bug reporting is picky about what I call an application. I couldn't get it to use apt.
[02:52] <len> So i used aptitude.
[02:52] <micahg> apt != aptitude
[02:53] <len> But it affects installing from synaptic too
[02:53] <micahg> right, like I said, it's not a problem with apt, but whatever adds the sources entry, synaptic uses apt on the backend as well I believe
[02:54] <len> I know. But I don't really know how these programs get there software soursces.
[02:54] <len> Their is not there either...
[02:54] <micahg> right, so I'll move to ubiquity and someone can move to where it's added from
[02:55] <len> Works for me.
[02:56] <len> I will have to look into the capture setting in pulse next. I think they are wrong. But the version of ubuntudesktop i have on my spare drive is too broken to play with...
[02:57] <len> It freezes and none of the software install tools work for me at all. They must be working on something.
[02:58] <len> I have todays US iso so maybe I will try that, but I have early work tomorrow because of the Christmas rush... I deliver mail.
[02:59] <micahg> len: alpha 2 isn't until feb 2, so we have time :)
[02:59] <len> Ya, I figured there was some time... it is easier to fix things we know about.
[03:00] <len> It is interesting, all the bugs I have found I can work around one way or the other.
[03:44] <stochastic> ScottL are you free?
[03:44] <stochastic> it'd be nice to see the bzr for the live dvd get setup soon so I can begin making mods to the ubiquity patch
[03:45] <stochastic> if you'd like I could try my hand at it
[04:14] <ScottL> stochastic, i was planning on working on the live dvd during christmas
[04:14] <stochastic> okay
[04:14] <ScottL> although i haven't gotten much (practically none) feedback for the graphics stuff :(
[04:14] <stochastic> which graphics stuff?
[04:15] <stochastic> oh, the input for packagees
[04:15] <ScottL> aye
[04:15] <ScottL> i'm super tired and going to bed, but leave messages for me and i'll reply in the morning
[12:00] <ScottL> stochastic, i apologize if i was rude last night by ending the conversation like i did
[14:12] <cyphermox> astralja1a: your router reset, are you going through a switch to get to the router?
[14:13] <cyphermox> because what controls whether the connection gets reset is one thing: carrier detection. if the carrier drops (e.g. you're connected directly to the device that resets) it should also re-establish the connection. this depends on the network card supporting carrier detection, however
[22:36] <scott-work> micahg:  can you explaini a few points about this conflicts/replaces for the theme/ui update?
[22:36] <scott-work> i think there are two cases...
[22:36] <scott-work> 1. one where the package name stays the same (i.e. -default-settings) but is absolutely replaced
[22:37] <scott-work> 2. and the other in which the package is no longer used but still needs the upgrade path
[22:37] <scott-work> or maybe we should just not worry about the LTS -> LTS upgrade path
[22:37] <scott-work> but i would like to
[22:37] <micahg> scott-work: have you seen: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s-replaces
[22:39] <micahg> sorry, you probably want to read this one first : http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s-conflicts
[22:47] <scott-work> oooooh, no.  no, i hadn't seen these.  thanks  :)
[22:49] <scott-work> well, actually i had read some of that page, but didn't really focus on these parts at the time because it was unnecessary
[22:55] <micahg> scott-work: I have to run now, will be back later
[22:55] <scott-work> no, problem, i won't read it until tonight