| joshuas-dad | soreau yes i do | 00:26 |
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| soreau | then what's the problem | 00:26 |
| joshuas-dad | it doesnt connect, i dont see any wireless networks | 00:27 |
| soreau | What happens if you try 'sudo iwlist wlan0 scan|grep -i ssid' | 00:27 |
| joshuas-dad | yup that works | 00:28 |
| soreau | so the driver is probably working but whatever other tool you're trying to use for connection isn't | 00:28 |
| soreau | What's showing no AP's? | 00:29 |
| joshuas-dad | i am just using network connections in xubuntu | 00:29 |
| soreau | What is the output of 'service network-manager status'? | 00:30 |
| joshuas-dad | start/running process 857 | 00:31 |
| soreau | and when you click on the network icon in the panel, does it say wireless networks? | 00:31 |
| CrownWheel | Hey, Xubuntu-ites. Question about installing from a Live distribution. | 00:32 |
| joshuas-dad | yup, just doesnt show any available | 00:32 |
| soreau | joshuas-dad: Is it a usb device you plugged in? | 00:32 |
| joshuas-dad | yes, it is a usb device | 00:32 |
| soreau | Does it work if you restart network-manager with 'sudo service network-manager restart'? | 00:32 |
| CrownWheel | I'm running a USB flash drive with Xubuntu 11.10, with a 2GB persistant file. I've installed several packages. I'm pretty happy with the system. | 00:33 |
| fschuindt | someone knows why can't I change my window top bar theme? | 00:33 |
| CrownWheel | How can I tell how much of the real hard drive I'll need when I install? | 00:33 |
| joshuas-dad | no, i can only manually add | 00:34 |
| soreau | joshuas-dad: Can you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces file to pastebin.com? | 00:34 |
| CrownWheel | And, is the install process "smart" enough to install the system on the USB drive as-is? That would be sweet, because then the USB drive becomes a backup of the custom install. | 00:35 |
| joshuas-dad | there is only a couple lines | 00:36 |
| joshuas-dad | can i paste here | 00:36 |
| soreau | joshuas-dad: Do you have 'Enable Networking' and 'Enable Wireless' checked in the network dropdown menu? | 00:36 |
| joshuas-dad | is that in settings? | 00:37 |
| soreau | just when you left-click on the network icon in the panel | 00:37 |
| joshuas-dad | i do now, and it is working. thanks for the help | 00:40 |
| soreau | No problem ;-) | 00:40 |
| CrownWheel | When I use the desktop Install icon, will it do a clean install, or install the system (and packages) from my Live USB install, as-is? | 01:26 |
| knome | clean install | 01:27 |
| CrownWheel | any way to get the as-is system onto the HD? | 01:27 |
| knome | not really | 01:27 |
| CrownWheel | Then the USB drive becomes a backup/revert image and, man, that'd be sweet. | 01:28 |
| CrownWheel | alright. thanks, knome. | 01:28 |
| pacy_ | with dd ? | 01:43 |
| pacy_ | CrownWheel, http://www.backuphowto.info/linux-backup-hard-disk-clone-dd | 01:44 |
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| CrownWheel | pacy__, just spotted your message from hours and hours ago. Thanks for the link. | 05:04 |
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| bigbrovar | . | 06:07 |
| ball | What kind of fonts does Xubuntu support and where do they live (where do I put new ones)? | 06:10 |
| qrq | xubuntu laggs my pc :D | 06:23 |
| TheSheep | ball: ttf and otf and you pput them in ~/.fonts then run fc-cache | 06:29 |
| ball | Thanks! | 06:30 |
| * ball tries it | 06:30 | |
| ball | TheSheep: That worked beautifully, thanks! | 06:32 |
| qrq | Why xubuntu laggs so much? | 06:33 |
| qrq | Debian with XFCE don't :) | 06:33 |
| qrq | And my specs arent so bad. | 06:34 |
| qrq | AMD Athlon 64 1600 MHZ , 1024 RAM | 06:34 |
| qrq | Ubuntu Autoupdates takes 40% of CPU :D | 06:35 |
| qrq | I mean indicator. | 06:35 |
| ball | It seems to work very well on the Intel Atom machines I've tried it on. | 06:37 |
| ball | qrq: What kind of "lag" are you seeing? | 06:38 |
| qrq | 40% of CPU is taken constantly by update applet. | 06:38 |
| ball | qrq: Have you let the update applet run and complete? | 06:39 |
| qrq | Yes | 06:40 |
| qrq | System is updated | 06:40 |
| qrq | Next thing is some root lightdm script :D | 06:40 |
| qrq | Which is really mean for CPU too. | 06:41 |
| ball | I have to iron a shirt. I leave for work in about five hours. | 06:42 |
| ball | qrq: I hope you get that figured out. BTW, how much cache does your Athlon 64 have? | 06:43 |
| qrq | ball I don't really know. | 06:43 |
| qrq | I never had such problems on 10.04 xubuntu | 06:43 |
| qrq | And it seems I will stick with 10.04 | 06:44 |
| ball | If an Atom handles it, I'm surprised an Athlon 64 doesn't. | 06:46 |
| qrq | I installed 11.10 yestarday | 06:47 |
| qrq | Before this I had 10.04 and it works normaly | 06:48 |
| qrq | Worked. | 06:48 |
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| ball | I's fall back to 10.4 then. | 07:09 |
| onyx | hi. can I to talk with somebody? | 07:18 |
| Paimun | You certainly -can- | 07:19 |
| onyx | I want to ask my question about video in my xubuntu 11.10 | 07:20 |
| Paimun | you could probably do it then | 07:21 |
| Paimun | don't ask to ask | 07:21 |
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| ball | onyx: What is your question? | 07:25 |
| onyx | thanks. well, video in my system play with wrong colours. flash into firefox play right. I have try all 4 variants video drivers, that in my system, but nothing change | 07:25 |
| ball | onyx: Have you seen this with several different video players? | 07:27 |
| onyx | yes. I have try it with vlc, gmplayer,gxine | 07:27 |
| ball | onyx: Was okay with previous versions of Xubuntu? | 07:28 |
| onyx | it is my first xubuntu. before i use ubuntu. there was all right. now i has try several distributives . mandriva. crunchbang... there all right too | 07:31 |
| ball | Are you using the vendor's video driver or an open source one? | 07:34 |
| onyx | I use proprietary driver that xubuntu offer to me. Nvidia ver.173, ver 173-update, current, current-updates. | 07:38 |
| Cybertinus | topic | 08:50 |
| Cybertinus | let's put a / in front of that :p | 08:50 |
| onyx | is here russian? | 09:19 |
| Unit193 | !ru | onyx | 09:19 |
| ubottu | onyx: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke. | 09:19 |
| simon___ | Hello. Is there a way to use a "Network" button in Thunar like under Gnome ? | 11:00 |
| simon___ | Because I want to connect to smb clients with thunar | 11:00 |
| Sysi | go there and press Ctl L, you can type address (smb://) | 11:01 |
| Sysi | you can browse hosts with gigolo | 11:01 |
| simon___ | okay...funny....last time the input wasn't valid (Can not press open) | 11:02 |
| simon___ | thanks | 11:02 |
| Kaapa | hey there - trying to install sun's java, but when I do a update-alternatives --config java I get "There is only one alternative in link group java: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java" | 11:35 |
| Kaapa | any tips? | 11:35 |
| Kaapa | woot - done | 11:41 |
| Kaapa | another question - how can I change the email I supplierd in the notifier? | 11:49 |
| livingdaylight | Hi testing xubuntu live cd. Does the real install update FF? live has version7 here | 12:49 |
| ablomen | livingdaylight, yeah it updates to 8 when you install | 12:51 |
| ablomen | it will always update some time later then the mozilla release though, since they have to package and test it etc | 12:51 |
| livingdaylight | ablomen, thank you. Just testing live cd. Previously, used Ubuntu, but looking for alternative to Unity | 12:52 |
| ablomen | livingdaylight, ok well firefox etc are exactly the same as ubuntu (it comes from the same repositorie) it just installs different packages (like the desktop env etc) | 12:53 |
| livingdaylight | yea... xfce doesn't use Nautilus for e.g. | 12:54 |
| ablomen | indeed | 12:54 |
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| livingdaylight | thunar i see | 12:55 |
| livingdaylight | can thunar split into two panes? In Nautilus F3 splits the file manager into two panels, if you know what I mean. Something I do a lot and very practical | 12:57 |
| ablomen | livingdaylight, nope it can't, but you are free to use whatever file manager you want | 12:58 |
| livingdaylight | ablomen, so, one could install nautilus for e.g.? its compatible with this window manager too? | 12:59 |
| ablomen | i think pcmanfm is a popular alternative for thunar in the xfce comunity | 12:59 |
| livingdaylight | i see, never heard of it. I'd have to try that out then. | 12:59 |
| livingdaylight | I'm not hung up about particular applications as much as particular functionality that I either got used to or find useful. | 13:00 |
| ablomen | well nautilus is a bit different here, because in gnome it also handles the desktop, and by default it starts a desktop over the xfce desktop in xfce | 13:00 |
| livingdaylight | as long as its easy to open two file managers side by side for easy and quick copy and pasting. | 13:01 |
| ablomen | but most other file managers work fine, and i think you can even tweak nautilus too to only be a file manager, if you really want to use it | 13:01 |
| livingdaylight | or picking up and dropping as it were in this case | 13:01 |
| ablomen | well you can always press ctrl+n in thunar, that opens another window in the same folder, don't know if that is enough | 13:01 |
| ablomen | (it is for me anyway) | 13:02 |
| livingdaylight | thx. I see that opens another window - yes. | 13:02 |
| livingdaylight | by same window you mean same workspace? | 13:02 |
| ablomen | i said same folder, so it opens a new thunar with the same path as the current directory | 13:04 |
| livingdaylight | can we still install sun-java easy enough. I know that has changed across the board in all *buntu systems since 11.10 | 13:04 |
| livingdaylight | oh, i see what you mean... yes, that would do | 13:04 |
| ablomen | i'm not sure on that one, i have it installed here, but this was before all the oracle discontinuing the os java vm talk etc | 13:08 |
| livingdaylight | so, are you still on 11.04 too | 13:09 |
| ablomen | no, but i updated | 13:11 |
| ablomen | did not do a fresh install | 13:11 |
| livingdaylight | you mean upgraded? | 13:11 |
| livingdaylight | Does upgrade not remove things like that? | 13:12 |
| ablomen | oh wait i guess it did switch to openjdk | 13:12 |
| ablomen | hmm, well minecraft works anyway ;) | 13:13 |
| livingdaylight | yea, would've thought so... oh, well, if you haven't noticed a difference then that is good :) | 13:13 |
| livingdaylight | I'm gonna back up my home dir and give xubuntu a go | 13:22 |
| livingdaylight | Hi | 15:35 |
| livingdaylight | To install proprietary codecs is there a how to page, so I can selct individually rather than just enableing the default restricted | 15:36 |
| livingdaylight | and is it normal that there is no login sound? | 15:37 |
| ablomen | yes | 15:37 |
| Sysi | no login sound is default, search for gstreamer-plugins in synaptic or software center to install codecs | 15:38 |
| livingdaylight | thanks | 15:39 |
| livingdaylight | are there any particularly good and useful xubuntu specific how to sites for getting a fresh install up to speed? | 15:40 |
| Sysi | xubuntu is pretty simple, fiddle with settings and try stuff with panels, rest of it is often same than on regular ubuntu | 15:42 |
| Sysi | xfce docs have some useful info | 15:42 |
| livingdaylight | ok, thanks. I'm thinking particularly regards, proprietary codecs. You're saying I can follow reguular ubuntu-centric guides; they apply equally | 15:44 |
| Sysi | codecs and stuff are the same on both | 15:44 |
| ablomen | livingdaylight, i always install vlc, mplayer and gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg, that way you can play basicly anything (with a few uncommon exceptions) | 15:45 |
| Sysi | really either vlc or mplayer(-gnome) is needed, not really both | 15:46 |
| ablomen | depends, mplayer does not play nice with some codecs, same for vlc but yeah for basic usage i'd say go for mplayer-gnome (bit faster then vlc) | 15:47 |
| Sysi | parole should play pretty much everything with gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad and -ugly and that --ffmpeg | 15:47 |
| livingdaylight | parole? | 15:49 |
| Sysi | default player | 15:50 |
| livingdaylight | yes, I see... never heard of it :) | 15:50 |
| livingdaylight | xfce's version of totem ? | 15:50 |
| Sysi | kind of | 15:50 |
| livingdaylight | ok, update complete, reboot | 15:51 |
| xubuntu222 | hey do you know how much space you need to install xubuntu on? | 16:08 |
| Sysi | 4.5GB | 16:08 |
| xubuntu222 | damn | 16:08 |
| Sysi | a bit less with alternate disk | 16:08 |
| xubuntu222 | my hard drive broke and i only have a 4 gig stick with me... | 16:08 |
| xubuntu222 | thy | 16:09 |
| ablomen | xubuntu222, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD << you can add only the packages you need with this | 16:10 |
| Yggdrasil_ | hi, i have a pentium 64 bit | 16:12 |
| Yggdrasil_ | do i still download the am64 iso ? | 16:12 |
| xubuntu222 | yes i guess i for now try to install some minamal puppy linux on my stick | 16:12 |
| Yggdrasil_ | amd64 | 16:12 |
| xubuntu222 | would be the most sensitive thing | 16:12 |
| xubuntu222 | godby | 16:12 |
| ablomen | Yggdrasil_, yeah that works fine | 16:14 |
| Yggdrasil_ | ok thought so thanks | 16:14 |
| Yggdrasil_ | gonna get me a linux box in my vmware. | 16:14 |
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| vithos | yo, how do i get the disk performance monitor xfce plugin to work? | 18:18 |
| tuttincoro | does xubuntu include wubi? | 18:18 |
| TheSheep | tuttincoro: yes | 18:18 |
| TheSheep | vithos: yo, what's the error? | 18:18 |
| vithos | the indicator never shows any activity | 18:19 |
| vithos | even if i run something like the `stress --hdd 1` | 18:19 |
| TheSheep | vithos: looks like it only works with 2.4 and 2.6 kernels | 18:23 |
| TheSheep | vithos: http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-diskperf-plugin | 18:23 |
| vithos | that's weird, i thought 3.0 didn't have any changes :D | 18:24 |
| vithos | thanks | 18:25 |
| TheSheep | vithos: I'm not 100% that this is the source of the problem | 18:26 |
| TheSheep | vithos: perhaps you just need to recompile with that flag enabled | 18:27 |
| vithos | i'll see if i can manage to do that | 18:27 |
| Kurdistan | guys/girls have the boot time in xubuntu got slower compare to lucid? | 18:57 |
| pleia2 | Kurdistan: yes, the ubuntu devs are working on getting the bootup time shorter again for 12.04 | 19:00 |
| Kurdistan | pleia2, I thought in ubuntu, unity was the reason of the slow boot speed. | 19:01 |
| Kurdistan | did not think xubuntu would effect | 19:01 |
| pleia2 | xubuntu and ubuntu share a lot of the same startup processes | 19:02 |
| Kurdistan | :) yes thats true | 19:04 |
| girafe | so xubuntu is the new flavor that replaces unity ? | 19:07 |
| Pici | No? | 19:08 |
| Pici | xubuntu uses xfce. ubuntu uses gnome3+unity | 19:08 |
| Aicasn | is anyone else having big trouble with 11.1? general instability in multiple apps? graphics problems? | 19:25 |
| Aicasn | feels a lot like a beta on my end | 19:26 |
| baizon | not at all :) | 19:29 |
| baizon | everything working fine for me | 19:29 |
| Kurdistan | Aicasn, what are you using, graphic card? | 19:32 |
| baizon | ATi 6320 | 19:33 |
| Aicasn | nv gtx 260 | 19:33 |
| baizon | ah sorry not me xD | 19:33 |
| Kurdistan | Aicasn, have you looked on launchpad or nvnews for bugrapports? | 19:34 |
| Kurdistan | I have myself problem with the latest stable nvidia drivers | 19:35 |
| Aicasn | nope. i only played with it long enough over the weekend to see that it wasn't suitable as my primary os | 19:35 |
| Aicasn | i'll stick that on my to-do list. i do want to help if i'm in the minority in terms of user experience. i was just curious if many folks were having these problems | 19:36 |
| Sysi | Aicasn: did you install nvidia driver or were you usinf the default one? even if card isn't brand new the default driver probably works badly | 19:44 |
| Aicasn | used both nv drivers. same difference between them | 19:48 |
| carson_ward | loaded xubuntu for the first time a month ago and i am impressed. after years of rpm hell this is nice. | 19:55 |
| Aicasn | i stuck a SSD in my home machine to boot and run OS files off of. what's the best way to ensure that /, /boot, and /usr all run off of the SSD, but /home, /var, /etc, ... run from the normal drive? i couldn't find a way to separate the partitions (especially /var) because some of them need to be available during bootup | 20:19 |
| Sysi | Aicasn: why wouldn't you put /var to ssd too? you could just have one partition for / on ssd and data partition on hdd | 20:26 |
| Aicasn | Sysi: because /var gets a lot of read/write activity. temp files, log files, etc. it's unnecessary wear on the ssd. | 20:26 |
| Aicasn | i'd rather have that on the gears and levers hard drive | 20:27 |
| Sysi | Aicasn: it's hardly possible to burn out ssd faster than hdd | 20:27 |
| Sysi | the more writes, the more reason I'd see to have it on afster drive.. | 20:27 |
| Aicasn | i realize that, but those read/write's aren't really bottlenecks. they're fast anyway. | 20:28 |
| Sysi | what ssd? vertex2 should last at least three years on hard daily usage, vertex3 a little less | 20:29 |
| Aicasn | hmm.... corsair 128gb i believe | 20:29 |
| Aicasn | so, back to my original question, is it possible to keep /var on a separate partition without xbuntu 11.1 getting mad at me? | 20:30 |
| Aicasn | i redicrected enough stuff to / from /var to get it to boot, but it still acts very unstable | 20:31 |
| Cybertinus | Aicasn: sure. Just make it a seperate partition, make sure it is in your fstab, and has the correct mountpoint and it should work without a hitch | 20:36 |
| Aicasn | i put it on my /home partition. i have /boot, /, and /home. it was /home/system/var -> /var | 20:37 |
| Aicasn | didn't like that very much at all | 20:37 |
| Aicasn | i had to /var/run -> /run and something else i can't recall just to get it to boot | 20:37 |
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| Wazzaaa | Greetings, Xubuntu users. In the Ubuntu Software Center I can no longer see the xubuntu-desktop package | 21:48 |
| Wazzaaa | can you see it ? | 21:48 |
| TheSheep | !info xubuntu-desktop | 21:49 |
| ubottu | xubuntu-desktop (source: xubuntu-meta): Xubuntu desktop system. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.138 (oneiric), package size 3 kB, installed size 48 kB | 21:49 |
| Wazzaaa | and/or how ot install Xubuntu so that I can choose Xubuntu from the Session menu on the login screen. | 21:49 |
| Wazzaaa | yep, found it | 21:52 |
| Wazzaaa | thanks people of the interwebz | 21:52 |
| pacy_ | hey there | 22:20 |
| knome | hello | 22:20 |
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