[00:26] soreau yes i do [00:26] then what's the problem [00:27] it doesnt connect, i dont see any wireless networks [00:27] What happens if you try 'sudo iwlist wlan0 scan|grep -i ssid' [00:28] yup that works [00:28] so the driver is probably working but whatever other tool you're trying to use for connection isn't [00:29] What's showing no AP's? [00:29] i am just using network connections in xubuntu [00:30] What is the output of 'service network-manager status'? [00:31] start/running process 857 [00:31] and when you click on the network icon in the panel, does it say wireless networks? [00:32] Hey, Xubuntu-ites. Question about installing from a Live distribution. [00:32] yup, just doesnt show any available [00:32] joshuas-dad: Is it a usb device you plugged in? [00:32] yes, it is a usb device [00:32] Does it work if you restart network-manager with 'sudo service network-manager restart'? [00:33] I'm running a USB flash drive with Xubuntu 11.10, with a 2GB persistant file. I've installed several packages. I'm pretty happy with the system. [00:33] someone knows why can't I change my window top bar theme? [00:33] How can I tell how much of the real hard drive I'll need when I install? [00:34] no, i can only manually add [00:34] joshuas-dad: Can you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces file to pastebin.com? [00:35] And, is the install process "smart" enough to install the system on the USB drive as-is? That would be sweet, because then the USB drive becomes a backup of the custom install. [00:36] there is only a couple lines [00:36] can i paste here [00:36] joshuas-dad: Do you have 'Enable Networking' and 'Enable Wireless' checked in the network dropdown menu? [00:37] is that in settings? [00:37] just when you left-click on the network icon in the panel [00:40] i do now, and it is working. thanks for the help [00:40] No problem ;-) [01:26] When I use the desktop Install icon, will it do a clean install, or install the system (and packages) from my Live USB install, as-is? [01:27] clean install [01:27] any way to get the as-is system onto the HD? [01:27] not really [01:28] Then the USB drive becomes a backup/revert image and, man, that'd be sweet. [01:28] alright. thanks, knome. [01:43] with dd ? [01:44] CrownWheel, http://www.backuphowto.info/linux-backup-hard-disk-clone-dd === MetaCosm_ is now known as MetaCosm [05:04] pacy__, just spotted your message from hours and hours ago. Thanks for the link. === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [06:07] . [06:10] What kind of fonts does Xubuntu support and where do they live (where do I put new ones)? [06:23] xubuntu laggs my pc :D [06:29] ball: ttf and otf and you pput them in ~/.fonts then run fc-cache [06:30] Thanks! [06:30] * ball tries it [06:32] TheSheep: That worked beautifully, thanks! [06:33] Why xubuntu laggs so much? [06:33] Debian with XFCE don't :) [06:34] And my specs arent so bad. [06:34] AMD Athlon 64 1600 MHZ , 1024 RAM [06:35] Ubuntu Autoupdates takes 40% of CPU :D [06:35] I mean indicator. [06:37] It seems to work very well on the Intel Atom machines I've tried it on. [06:38] qrq: What kind of "lag" are you seeing? [06:38] 40% of CPU is taken constantly by update applet. [06:39] qrq: Have you let the update applet run and complete? [06:40] Yes [06:40] System is updated [06:40] Next thing is some root lightdm script :D [06:41] Which is really mean for CPU too. [06:42] I have to iron a shirt. I leave for work in about five hours. [06:43] qrq: I hope you get that figured out. BTW, how much cache does your Athlon 64 have? [06:43] ball I don't really know. [06:43] I never had such problems on 10.04 xubuntu [06:44] And it seems I will stick with 10.04 [06:46] If an Atom handles it, I'm surprised an Athlon 64 doesn't. [06:47] I installed 11.10 yestarday [06:48] Before this I had 10.04 and it works normaly [06:48] Worked. === Pieman is now known as Paimun [07:09] I's fall back to 10.4 then. [07:18] hi. can I to talk with somebody? [07:19] You certainly -can- [07:20] I want to ask my question about video in my xubuntu 11.10 [07:21] you could probably do it then [07:21] don't ask to ask === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [07:25] onyx: What is your question? [07:25] thanks. well, video in my system play with wrong colours. flash into firefox play right. I have try all 4 variants video drivers, that in my system, but nothing change [07:27] onyx: Have you seen this with several different video players? [07:27] yes. I have try it with vlc, gmplayer,gxine [07:28] onyx: Was okay with previous versions of Xubuntu? [07:31] it is my first xubuntu. before i use ubuntu. there was all right. now i has try several distributives . mandriva. crunchbang... there all right too [07:34] Are you using the vendor's video driver or an open source one? [07:38] I use proprietary driver that xubuntu offer to me. Nvidia ver.173, ver 173-update, current, current-updates. [08:50] topic [08:50] let's put a / in front of that :p [09:19] is here russian? [09:19] !ru | onyx [09:19] onyx: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke. [11:00] Hello. Is there a way to use a "Network" button in Thunar like under Gnome ? [11:00] Because I want to connect to smb clients with thunar [11:01] go there and press Ctl L, you can type address (smb://) [11:01] you can browse hosts with gigolo [11:02] okay...funny....last time the input wasn't valid (Can not press open) [11:02] thanks [11:35] hey there - trying to install sun's java, but when I do a update-alternatives --config java I get "There is only one alternative in link group java: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java" [11:35] any tips? [11:41] woot - done [11:49] another question - how can I change the email I supplierd in the notifier? [12:49] Hi testing xubuntu live cd. Does the real install update FF? live has version7 here [12:51] livingdaylight, yeah it updates to 8 when you install [12:51] it will always update some time later then the mozilla release though, since they have to package and test it etc [12:52] ablomen, thank you. Just testing live cd. Previously, used Ubuntu, but looking for alternative to Unity [12:53] livingdaylight, ok well firefox etc are exactly the same as ubuntu (it comes from the same repositorie) it just installs different packages (like the desktop env etc) [12:54] yea... xfce doesn't use Nautilus for e.g. [12:54] indeed === pangolin is now known as Guest38282 [12:55] thunar i see [12:57] can thunar split into two panes? In Nautilus F3 splits the file manager into two panels, if you know what I mean. Something I do a lot and very practical [12:58] livingdaylight, nope it can't, but you are free to use whatever file manager you want [12:59] ablomen, so, one could install nautilus for e.g.? its compatible with this window manager too? [12:59] i think pcmanfm is a popular alternative for thunar in the xfce comunity [12:59] i see, never heard of it. I'd have to try that out then. [13:00] I'm not hung up about particular applications as much as particular functionality that I either got used to or find useful. [13:00] well nautilus is a bit different here, because in gnome it also handles the desktop, and by default it starts a desktop over the xfce desktop in xfce [13:01] as long as its easy to open two file managers side by side for easy and quick copy and pasting. [13:01] but most other file managers work fine, and i think you can even tweak nautilus too to only be a file manager, if you really want to use it [13:01] or picking up and dropping as it were in this case [13:01] well you can always press ctrl+n in thunar, that opens another window in the same folder, don't know if that is enough [13:02] (it is for me anyway) [13:02] thx. I see that opens another window - yes. [13:02] by same window you mean same workspace? [13:04] i said same folder, so it opens a new thunar with the same path as the current directory [13:04] can we still install sun-java easy enough. I know that has changed across the board in all *buntu systems since 11.10 [13:04] oh, i see what you mean... yes, that would do [13:08] i'm not sure on that one, i have it installed here, but this was before all the oracle discontinuing the os java vm talk etc [13:09] so, are you still on 11.04 too [13:11] no, but i updated [13:11] did not do a fresh install [13:11] you mean upgraded? [13:12] Does upgrade not remove things like that? [13:12] oh wait i guess it did switch to openjdk [13:13] hmm, well minecraft works anyway ;) [13:13] yea, would've thought so... oh, well, if you haven't noticed a difference then that is good :) [13:22] I'm gonna back up my home dir and give xubuntu a go [15:35] Hi [15:36] To install proprietary codecs is there a how to page, so I can selct individually rather than just enableing the default restricted [15:37] and is it normal that there is no login sound? [15:37] yes [15:38] no login sound is default, search for gstreamer-plugins in synaptic or software center to install codecs [15:39] thanks [15:40] are there any particularly good and useful xubuntu specific how to sites for getting a fresh install up to speed? [15:42] xubuntu is pretty simple, fiddle with settings and try stuff with panels, rest of it is often same than on regular ubuntu [15:42] xfce docs have some useful info [15:44] ok, thanks. I'm thinking particularly regards, proprietary codecs. You're saying I can follow reguular ubuntu-centric guides; they apply equally [15:44] codecs and stuff are the same on both [15:45] livingdaylight, i always install vlc, mplayer and gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg, that way you can play basicly anything (with a few uncommon exceptions) [15:46] really either vlc or mplayer(-gnome) is needed, not really both [15:47] depends, mplayer does not play nice with some codecs, same for vlc but yeah for basic usage i'd say go for mplayer-gnome (bit faster then vlc) [15:47] parole should play pretty much everything with gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad and -ugly and that --ffmpeg [15:49] parole? [15:50] default player [15:50] yes, I see... never heard of it :) [15:50] xfce's version of totem ? [15:50] kind of [15:51] ok, update complete, reboot [16:08] hey do you know how much space you need to install xubuntu on? [16:08] 4.5GB [16:08] damn [16:08] a bit less with alternate disk [16:08] my hard drive broke and i only have a 4 gig stick with me... [16:09] thy [16:10] xubuntu222, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD << you can add only the packages you need with this [16:12] hi, i have a pentium 64 bit [16:12] do i still download the am64 iso ? [16:12] yes i guess i for now try to install some minamal puppy linux on my stick [16:12] amd64 [16:12] would be the most sensitive thing [16:12] godby [16:14] Yggdrasil_, yeah that works fine [16:14] ok thought so thanks [16:14] gonna get me a linux box in my vmware. === Yggdrasil_ is now known as yggdrasil === Thermi_ is now known as Thermi === genii-around_ is now known as genii-around === IdleOne is now known as pangolin [18:18] yo, how do i get the disk performance monitor xfce plugin to work? [18:18] does xubuntu include wubi? [18:18] tuttincoro: yes [18:18] vithos: yo, what's the error? [18:19] the indicator never shows any activity [18:19] even if i run something like the `stress --hdd 1` [18:23] vithos: looks like it only works with 2.4 and 2.6 kernels [18:23] vithos: http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-diskperf-plugin [18:24] that's weird, i thought 3.0 didn't have any changes :D [18:25] thanks [18:26] vithos: I'm not 100% that this is the source of the problem [18:27] vithos: perhaps you just need to recompile with that flag enabled [18:27] i'll see if i can manage to do that [18:57] guys/girls have the boot time in xubuntu got slower compare to lucid? [19:00] Kurdistan: yes, the ubuntu devs are working on getting the bootup time shorter again for 12.04 [19:01] pleia2, I thought in ubuntu, unity was the reason of the slow boot speed. [19:01] did not think xubuntu would effect [19:02] xubuntu and ubuntu share a lot of the same startup processes [19:04] :) yes thats true [19:07] so xubuntu is the new flavor that replaces unity ? [19:08] No? [19:08] xubuntu uses xfce. ubuntu uses gnome3+unity [19:25] is anyone else having big trouble with 11.1? general instability in multiple apps? graphics problems? [19:26] feels a lot like a beta on my end [19:29] not at all :) [19:29] everything working fine for me [19:32] Aicasn, what are you using, graphic card? [19:33] ATi 6320 [19:33] nv gtx 260 [19:33] ah sorry not me xD [19:34] Aicasn, have you looked on launchpad or nvnews for bugrapports? [19:35] I have myself problem with the latest stable nvidia drivers [19:35] nope. i only played with it long enough over the weekend to see that it wasn't suitable as my primary os [19:36] i'll stick that on my to-do list. i do want to help if i'm in the minority in terms of user experience. i was just curious if many folks were having these problems [19:44] Aicasn: did you install nvidia driver or were you usinf the default one? even if card isn't brand new the default driver probably works badly [19:48] used both nv drivers. same difference between them [19:55] loaded xubuntu for the first time a month ago and i am impressed. after years of rpm hell this is nice. [20:19] i stuck a SSD in my home machine to boot and run OS files off of. what's the best way to ensure that /, /boot, and /usr all run off of the SSD, but /home, /var, /etc, ... run from the normal drive? i couldn't find a way to separate the partitions (especially /var) because some of them need to be available during bootup [20:26] Aicasn: why wouldn't you put /var to ssd too? you could just have one partition for / on ssd and data partition on hdd [20:26] Sysi: because /var gets a lot of read/write activity. temp files, log files, etc. it's unnecessary wear on the ssd. [20:27] i'd rather have that on the gears and levers hard drive [20:27] Aicasn: it's hardly possible to burn out ssd faster than hdd [20:27] the more writes, the more reason I'd see to have it on afster drive.. [20:28] i realize that, but those read/write's aren't really bottlenecks. they're fast anyway. [20:29] what ssd? vertex2 should last at least three years on hard daily usage, vertex3 a little less [20:29] hmm.... corsair 128gb i believe [20:30] so, back to my original question, is it possible to keep /var on a separate partition without xbuntu 11.1 getting mad at me? [20:31] i redicrected enough stuff to / from /var to get it to boot, but it still acts very unstable [20:36] Aicasn: sure. Just make it a seperate partition, make sure it is in your fstab, and has the correct mountpoint and it should work without a hitch [20:37] i put it on my /home partition. i have /boot, /, and /home. it was /home/system/var -> /var [20:37] didn't like that very much at all [20:37] i had to /var/run -> /run and something else i can't recall just to get it to boot === soreau_ is now known as soreau [21:48] Greetings, Xubuntu users. In the Ubuntu Software Center I can no longer see the xubuntu-desktop package [21:48] can you see it ? [21:49] !info xubuntu-desktop [21:49] xubuntu-desktop (source: xubuntu-meta): Xubuntu desktop system. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.138 (oneiric), package size 3 kB, installed size 48 kB [21:49] and/or how ot install Xubuntu so that I can choose Xubuntu from the Session menu on the login screen. [21:52] yep, found it [21:52] thanks people of the interwebz [22:20] hey there [22:20] hello === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === Ext4 is now known as Exio1