[01:15] <DoctorPepper> hi guys !!!
[01:33] <BarkingFish> morning DoctorPepper
[01:33] <DoctorPepper> BarkingFish: morning
[12:51] <noaXess> hey all
[12:52] <noaXess> what are the codes if yi eg. want search for package libmotif3 with dpkg -l | grep libmotif3? i get: rc  libmotif3... what does rc mean?
[13:55] <roland> I have an instancec of dolphin, which does not want to close, kill -9 or kill -13 doesnt work... killall "dolphin" doesn't work, any ideas, how to forcekill it?
[13:56] <BluesKaj> roland, is the "loading file" indicator showing , sometimes it gets stuck in that mode after removing or adding files/folders to a dir
[13:57] <roland> BluesKaj: I don't see any
[14:00] <TheMysticJellyMa> Hi
[14:01] <BluesKaj> roland, try the system monitor process table , you'll have several options there to stop or kill it
[14:02] <roland> tried every option in there, unkillable
[14:02] <roland> BluesKaj: CPU % says: disk sleep
[14:03] <BluesKaj> then reboot
[14:05] <Duppy21> need some help with my network
[14:05] <Lynoure> Duppy21: We need more info
[14:06] <Duppy21> Got my network set up but would like to get into get into the management side to see what other computers are on it
[14:08] <SunTsu> Duppy21: what would that "management side" be, you're talking about?
[14:09] <roland> BluesKaj: really? reboot is the only option?
[14:09] <Duppy21> management connections
[14:13] <BluesKaj> roland, that's what I do ..I have no objections to a reboot if necessary
[14:14] <SunTsu> roland: if some process is waiting on IO and that IO won't come: Yes, reboot is an option besides leaving that process in it's state
[14:14] <roland> SunTsu: how is that kind of process unkillable?
[14:15] <roland> is there any commandline magic, to try to killit?
[14:15] <SunTsu> roland: it's waiting on IO, which is an uninterruptable state
[14:15] <SunTsu> roland: yeah, that magic is called "reboot"
[14:15] <SunTsu> roland: but maybe you want to ask again and somebody else can tell you - until you believe us
[14:16] <BluesKaj> roland, are you on some kind of uptime contest for bragging rights :)
[14:17] <roland> SunTsu: I didn't say I don't believe you
[14:17] <roland> and I don't have any kind of uptime contest
[14:17] <BluesKaj> then reboot
[14:17] <SunTsu> roland: well, you did. Two people told you that and you asked if there was some other way, which implicit means that you don't believe us
[14:17] <roland> just, reboot is the final option I use, until nothing else helps
[14:18] <roland> SunTsu: relax, until you wrote "it's waiting on IO, which is an uninterruptable state" I didn't understand what the problem was exactly
[14:19] <SunTsu> roland: actually I'm totally relaxed
[14:20] <roland> SunTsu: actually, I didnt know that waiting on IO is uninterruptible
[14:21] <SunTsu> roland: then now you know ;) That only leaves the two options  I mentioned earlier
[14:43] <thinking> :-D
[14:44] <thinking> is there anybody/
[14:45] <SunTsu> nope
[14:45] <BluesKaj> thinking, yes, just ask your question
[14:45] <BluesKaj> roland, you didn't reboot , are you afraid to ?
[14:45] <thinking> i am new here
[14:46] <SunTsu> thinking: just ask your question, and be as precise as you can be. What is your problem, what did you try, what happened, what do you expect to happen, etc
[14:48] <thinking> This is my first time use irc
[14:51] <thinking> Which is the most famous chanel in this server?
[14:55] <BluesKaj> thinking, that's not asupport question . Do you have a kubuntu related question ?
[15:30] <_calum> guys, I'm installing updates from a default clean Kubuntu install. It says "running dpkg" but it won't go past 56%. Stayed that way for 8 minutes. What to do?
[15:31] <Peace-> _calum: open a konsole
[15:31] <_calum> ok
[15:31] <Peace-> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[15:31] <_calum> uhh, it won't open
[15:31] <Peace-> mm
[15:32] <Peace-> :)
[15:32] <_calum> no response
[15:32] <_calum> is it broken?
[15:32] <Peace-> well i could fix ...
[15:32] <Peace-> but .... you need  to open a new tty
[15:32] <Peace-> i will explain
[15:32] <_calum> I just have an update screen with running dpkg at 56% now
[15:32] <Peace-> but you have to read and wait because it's not simple
[15:33] <Peace-> _calum: first of all close that windows , it's blocked
[15:33] <_calum> a virtual console?
[15:33] <Peace-> no
[15:33] <_calum> I cannot close the window
[15:34] <Peace-> you can do something ?
[15:34] <_calum> I can move the mouse but not start programs or close the window
[15:34] <Peace-> ALT F2
[15:34] <Peace-> appears something ?
[15:34] <_calum> that got some bar at the top
[15:35] <Peace-> now on that bar type konsole
[15:35] <Peace-> e press enter
[15:35] <_calum> ahh I have a terminal
[15:35] <Peace-> now ,  you must be carefull
[15:37] <_calum> right
[15:38] <Peace-> press CTRL ALT ESC  , and click on the window  that is blocked at 56% it will KILL the application
[15:38] <Peace-> then go on konsole and type
[15:38] <Peace-> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[15:38] <_calum> ahh little skull icon
[15:39] <_calum> click the window now right?
[15:39] <_calum> its gone
[15:40] <Peace-> then go on konsole and type
[15:40] <Peace-> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[15:40] <_calum> ok
[15:41] <Peace-> it will say something of bad i guess :)
[15:41] <_calum> dpkg status database is locked by another process
[15:41] <Peace-> sudo rm  /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[15:41] <Peace-> then
[15:41] <Peace-> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[15:41] <_calum> ok
[15:42] <_calum> ok somethings happening
[15:42] <Peace-> :)
[15:43] <_calum> its setting up some stuff
[15:43] <Peace-> _calum: actually is upgrading your system where it was interrupted
[15:43] <_calum> ahh right
[15:44] <_calum> its done
[15:45] <Peace-> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:45] <_calum> k
[15:45] <Peace-> just to be sure
[15:45] <Peace-> it checks if there is something you have to upgrade
[15:46] <_calum> it says it upgraded 1 item
[15:46] <Peace-> press y
[15:47] <_calum> it doesn't give me an option its finished and now says calum@calum-laptop:~$
[15:47] <Peace-> ok
[15:47] <Peace-> perfect
[15:47] <Peace-> your system is upgraded
[15:47] <_calum> any reason why the updating froze in the first place?
[15:48] <Peace-> i guess it's a bug
[15:48] <Peace-> i don't use software to upgrade my system
[15:48] <_calum> hmm, should I report?
[15:48] <Peace-> i use only konsole
[15:48] <Peace-> _calum: you should yes
[15:49] <_calum> does it matter that the running process is now closed? I thought I needed it open to report
[15:50] <Peace-> ?
[15:50] <_calum> can I report the bug without the buggy process being open?
[15:50] <Peace-> _calum: i thnk ....
[15:50] <Peace-> open konsole
[15:50] <Peace-> ubuntu-bug
[15:52] <_calum> uhh I restarted and it seems to have crashed my system. Blanik screen two windows, Jockey closed unexpectedly and kde-policykit.
[15:53] <Peace-> _calum:  rebooting ?
[15:53] <_calum> yeah I went to reboot my system but these two windows appeared
[15:53] <Peace-> i guess it's normal
[15:54] <Peace-> you had a system not quite stable
[15:54] <_calum> should I reinstall?
[15:54] <Peace-> no
[15:54] <Peace-> i have to understand well
[15:54] <Peace-> now rebooting you have some problems?
[15:54] <Peace-> restart your computer
[15:54] <_calum> I'll power it off and see
[15:55] <_calum> it rebooted without error.
[15:56] <Peace-> so ok :)
[15:56] <fatum> oh, here we go again. Plasma desktop shell closed unexpectedly. Segfault ftw...
[15:56] <_calum> thankyou for your help
[15:56] <Peace-> fatum: kde version '
[15:56] <Peace-> ?
[15:56] <fatum> kubuntu 11.10
[15:57] <fatum> oh, sorry
[15:58] <fatum> Qt: 4.7.4, KDE development platform: 4.7.3
[15:59] <Peace-> fatum: ok what you did before?
[15:59] <Peace-> fatum:  you loaded desktop console?
[16:00] <_calum> uhh I cannot connect to my wifi.
[16:00] <_calum> what now..
[16:00] <fatum> I get that usually when I try to turn off my ntb. Sometimes even when browsing internet, I haven't noticed anything unusual
[16:01] <Peace-> _calum: iwconfig
[16:01] <Peace-> fatum: upgrade kde
[16:01] <_calum> the kde wallet asks for permission then I clicked allow always now I have no wifi
[16:01] <Peace-> fatum: we are  at 4..7.4
[16:01] <Peace-> _calum: iwconfig
[16:01] <Peace-> _calum: iwconfig
[16:02] <Peace-> !paste
[16:03] <fatum> sorry, how to?
[16:03] <_calum> I'm on a different pc for irc I cannot paste directly from it
[16:04] <yon_> does some one have an update bug fix for the crach of kde
[16:04] <Peace-> fatum: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:04] <_calum> the output for my wifi interface is no wireless extensions. It was working until kde wallet came up asking for permission
[16:05] <yon_> there is too much stuff in kde than i ever wanted
[16:05] <Peace-> _calum: open a konsole
[16:05] <Peace-> _calum:  type iwconfig
[16:05] <Peace-> _calum:  paste the oputout on pastebin service
[16:05] <Peace-> !paste
[16:05] <_calum> alright
[16:07] <yon_> why does kde crash in login when you turn on wicd as the wlan interface.
[16:07] <Peace-> :S
[16:07] <Peace-> wicd?
[16:07] <yon_> yes
[16:07] <Peace-> where what and why
[16:08] <Peace-> you don't use the standard stuf?
[16:08] <yon_> in the network management backend
[16:08] <_calum> I think I'll reinstall. My system seems broken. I cannot access my usb drive to paste the file onto this pc
[16:08] <Peace-> _calum: mm
[16:08] <Peace-> ok
[16:09] <_calum> one thing can I do security updates from a terminal?
[16:09] <yon_> i moved wicd at the top, then i try to login nothing happens
[16:09] <Peace-> _calum: i guess yes
[16:09] <_calum> ok thanks for your assistance
[16:09] <Peace-> _calum: google sudo apt-get secure update
[16:10] <yon_> the build-essential package should have been pre-installed
[16:10] <Peace-> yon_: no space on 600mb of cd
[16:10] <yon_> those like me, with 10 or 20 kbs speed can't do anything
[16:11] <fatum> yeah, apt-get update, that's another issue I wanted to talk about. I get a few 404 errors in oneiric/main/ ..Sources, Packages... need to paste all of it?
[16:12] <yon_> can you be more specific
[16:13] <Peace-> fatum: seems some server are not on line on your area
[16:13] <Peace-> servers
[16:13] <Peace-> fatum: paste
[16:14] <fatum> it's not just temporary issue, it has happened every time I tried in last.. i don't know, month or two?
[16:14] <fatum> http://paste.ubuntu.com/776480/
[16:14] <_calum> peace: I really appreciate you helping me with that stuff, so thanks :)
[16:15] <yon_> any help with mp3 and video codec for kubuntu 11.10
[16:15] <yon_> i have an idea guys do you want to hear it
[16:16] <Peace-> !medibuntu | yon_
[16:16] <Peace-> yon_: then when you have added medibuntu repository
[16:16] <Peace-> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:16] <Peace-> should be fine
[16:17] <yon_> i have been able to download ffmpeg which is a great app, but it's command based, i wanted to make it gui
[16:17] <Peace-> there a toons of gui for ffmpeg
[16:18] <Peace-> there are
[16:18] <Peace-> fatum: the error is ppa stuff
[16:18] <yon_> can you mention any of them
[16:18] <_calum> ffmpeg saved my ass twice :)
[16:18] <_calum> why can't we get something like that for windows which doesn't contain adware/spyware?
[16:18] <Peace-> fatum: first of all i will make some cleaning of your fuckin bad source list  omg hahahaha
[16:19] <Peace-> fatum: then i wil upgrade to 4.7.4
[16:19] <Tm_T> Peace-: language...
[16:19] <Peace-> Tm_T: xD
[16:19] <fatum> all right, I could use some cleaning :D
[16:20] <_calum> woo! My wifi is picked up again!
[16:20] <Peace-> _calum: :)
[16:20] <yon_> any gui for ffmpeg which works in kubuntu 11.10
[16:20] <Peace-> winff or
[16:20] <yon_> and the repository for medibuntu
[16:21] <Peace-> handbrake
[16:21] <_calum> if the updates work successfully in this new install I will be a happy custome
[16:21] <_calum> r*
[16:21] <Peace-> _calum: use the terminal
[16:21] <Peace-> to upgrade
[16:22] <_calum> sure will, this time
[16:22] <Peace-> *update
[16:22] <_calum> just gotta run the installer app
[16:22] <Peace-> if you learn terminal , i know is a pain , you will never reinstall for stuff like
[16:22] <_calum> Call me mad but I like the terminal.
[16:23] <yon_> how can the google snow .js be embed in facebook profile page
[16:23] <Peace-> yon_: this is not a kubuntu question
[16:23] <yon_> well it can be helpful, it's christmas
[16:26] <yon_> if the look of kde were in gnome, and the power of gnome where in kde, it would have been a great experience
[16:26] <_calum> gnomede?
[16:26] <Peace-> yon_: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiOgsG1GCBo
[16:26] <_calum> :)
[16:27] <fatum> GDE :D
[16:27] <Peace-> actually kde can be like gnome
[16:27] <yon_> gnomede, sounds powerful
[16:27] <Peace-> and unity
[16:27] <DarthFrog> yon_:  Power of GNOME?   What do you mean by that?
[16:27] <Peace-> yon_: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_qR-7FQHxc&feature=related
[16:27] <Peace-> kde can be like gnome unity and mac
[16:28] <Peace-> but i prefer like kde
[16:28] <yon_> the performance and un-crashable
[16:28] <_calum> I love how KDE can look better than mac and is free, Mac users, stick that in your pipe and smoke it
[16:29] <yon_> kde doesn't even have flash pre installed
[16:29] <DarthFrog> yon_: That's not KDE or GNOME related, that's the distro itself.
[16:30] <Peace-> !chat | yon_
[16:30] <Peace-> omg
[16:30] <Peace-> !offtopic | yon_
[16:30] <yon_> i am trying to remind the drawbacks of kde
[16:30] <Pici> yon_: this is not the place to do that.
[16:31] <pangolin> no OS comes with flash pre-installed.
[16:31] <_calum> Linux mint does
[16:31] <Peace-> yon_: you have a problem well , if not go in the offtopic channel
[16:31] <yon_> ubuntu 10,4 do
[16:31] <ArchangelSe7en> Linux Mint
[16:31] <ArchangelSe7en> yea
[16:31] <Peace-> -.-
[16:31] <pangolin> no OS worth installing comes with flash pre-installed.
[16:31] <Peace-> please guys go in the offtopic channel
[16:31] <Peace-> this is not a chat
[16:31] <yon_> kde have along way to go
[16:32] <ArchangelSe7en> define "worth installing"
[16:32] <pangolin> has anybody else gotten a 200+ package upgrade that emptied the applications menu?
[16:32] <Peace-> pangolin: the app menu?
[16:32] <pangolin> kubuntu 11.10
[16:32] <yon_> what app do i use to run .exe programs
[16:32] <_calum> right, I'm off, thanks for everything.
[16:33] <Peace-> pangolin: app-menu check if you have installed tha
[16:33] <pangolin> Unable to locate package app-menu
[16:34] <yon_> any one who want to make kubuntu better
[16:35] <yon_> any one who want to make kubuntu better
[16:35] <Peace-> pangolin: aptitude search app | grep menu
[16:35] <yon_> even aptitude is better than moun
[16:35] <Peace-> yon_: and you don't understand that this is not a chat
[16:35] <pangolin> I think I need to log out
[16:36] <yon_> so can you explain is for me. breifly
[16:36] <yon_> so can you explain it for me. breifly
[16:36] <Peace-> question => stay and ask a question ;
[16:36] <Peace-> stop
[16:36] <Peace-> personal point of view  can be made on the offtopic chanel
[16:37] <yon_> well why does kde crash at log in when wicd is selected as network manager backend
[16:41] <pangolin> all better now
[16:41] <yon_> i have a project in mind
[16:43] <yon_> any one who want to volunter
[16:44] <sekisushai> hello, i would like to list the packages available on a ppa ...
[16:44] <sekisushai> how can i do .
[16:44] <sekisushai> ?
[16:44] <yon_> be clear sekushss
[16:45] <BluesKaj> yon_, pls don't ask for volunteers before explaining your project first
[16:45] <sekisushai> lol sorry... I have a ppa source added to my package manager
[16:45] <sekisushai> and i would like to know what packages are available on it
[16:45] <yon__> so then
[16:46] <BluesKaj> sekisushai, find the url where the ppa is posted , there should be a list
[16:46] <yon__> check it in the origin tab in moun
[16:47] <sekisushai> yep i have this, but i would like to check it on my system because i can't see the packages on this ppa from my package manager (muon)..
[16:47] <yon__> check it in the by origin tab in moun
[16:47] <BluesKaj> sekisushai, go to the original site where you got the ppa
[16:47] <fatum> Peace-: soooo... what about that bad source list and 4.7.4. upgrade?
[16:48] <Peace-> fatum: remove the ppa stuff that doesn't work
[16:48] <fatum> how?
[16:48] <Peace-> then do the upgrade using the official ppa of kubunut
[16:48] <Peace-> fatum: have you muon ?
[16:49] <sekisushai> if you want in muon on "by origini" tab i don't see the ppa i just added !..
[16:49] <Peace-> on that software you can edit repository disabling
[16:49] <Peace-> ppa
[16:49] <fatum> it seems I do, but have never used it
[16:49] <Peace-> !sourcelist
[16:50] <Peace-> !repository
[16:58] <fatum> seems to be working well and I think I have got KDE 4.7.4... I read, that the way to check it is to check any kde application? or how?
[17:00] <Peace-> fatum: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/12/20/plasma-desktopqp1628.jpg
[17:02] <fatum> Peace-: great, got 4.7.4 ;) thank you very much
[17:14] <vikash> hi evryoone
[17:14] <ArchangelSe7en> hullo
[17:14] <vikash> i want to use full features of kde 4.7.4
[17:15] <vikash> someone help me
[17:16] <Tm_T> vikash: yes?
[17:17] <vikash> i want to modify the quick launcher of kubuntu
[17:23] <toumbo> Hi peeple!!My muon stuck on "post-installation trigger libc-bin" during update!!What should I do?
[17:28] <vikash_> i want to modify kick off launcher of kubuntu to show all options on the desktop
[17:28] <vikash_> someone help me
[17:28] <vikash_> its a new feature in kde 4.7.4
[17:30] <vikash_> <Tm T>
[17:30] <kbroulik> vikash_: show all options on the desktop?
[17:31] <vikash_> yes the kick off launcher modification
[17:31] <vikash_> read it somewhere
[17:31] <BluesKaj> vikas what do you mean by show all options ?
[17:31] <BluesKaj> vikash_, ^
[17:32] <vikash_> like wen we open kick off launcer we see options: applications,computer,etc
[17:35] <BluesKaj> vikash_, haven't tried 4.7.4 yet so I'm not sure what that means ...like an expanded view of the kicker page?
[17:35] <Peace-> vikash_: ?
[17:36] <vikash_> ,Blues Kaj>
[17:36] <Peace-> maybe you mean search and lauch?
[17:36] <vikash_> yesss
[17:36] <vikash_> no peace not search and launch
[17:36] <vikash_> its kinda new feature
[17:36] <vikash_> i also dont knw exactly saw it in a website
[17:37] <WellTolerated> Could not start process Unable to create io-slave:klauncher said: Unknown protocol 'file'.
[17:37] <WellTolerated> ?
[17:37] <WellTolerated> I got this after an update today
[17:37] <WellTolerated> trying to start kopete
[17:38] <Peace-> vikash_: the take off?
[17:38] <vikash_> yess i guess
[17:38] <vikash_> Peace
[17:38] <Peace-> vikash_: this one ? http://nowardev.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/snapshot1.png
[17:39] <vikash_> yess LORD
[17:39] <vikash_> yess Peace
[17:39] <vikash_> diss one
[17:40] <Peace-> vikash_:  https://code.google.com/p/takeoff-launcher/wiki/Downloads?tm=2
[17:42] <Peace-> vikash_: btw the package in the repository seems old
[17:42] <Peace-> vikash_: i have compiled xD
[17:42] <Peace-> vikash_: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/?s=takeoff
[17:43] <Peace-> vikash_: no no is updated
[17:43] <Peace-> vikash_: you can use that ppa
[17:43] <vikash_> oooh thank you so much LORD Peace
[17:43] <vikash_> thanx al ot(-:
[17:45] <Nickamg> Done my updates and now everything appears stable now, I'm liking this much better then Gnome3 that's for sure
[17:45] <BluesKaj> Nickamg, welcome to kubuntu :)
[17:45] <vikash_> @Nickamg ..ye dats tru..
[17:46] <Nickamg> Yeh was a bit flaky to start with
[17:46] <vikash_> indeed
[17:46] <Nickamg> Appears better now
[17:46] <BluesKaj> vikash_, @ isn't necessary on IRC
[17:47] <vikash_> @BluesKaj  okie okie dood
[17:48] <Nickamg> lol
[17:48] <vikash_> haha
[17:49] <vikash_> anybody tell me the best mac like looking linux distro>>>>>
[17:49] <Nickamg> Ah Chrome is installed yay
[17:49] <Nickamg> Google if your friend
[17:49] <Peace-> vikash_: kde
[17:50] <Nickamg> :)
[17:50] <Nickamg> You could install Docky
[17:50] <Peace-> vikash_: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_qR-7FQHxc
[17:50] <Nickamg> if you want an Icon dock
[17:50] <Nickamg> unless KDE has it?
[17:50] <SunTsu> vikash_: all linux distros could look like macos, it's a question of the window manager or desktop environment used
[17:50] <vikash_> ohoh okie
[17:53] <Nickamg> You know on almost all distro of linux I can't get Youtube to full screen correctly
[17:54] <Peace-> :s
[17:54] <vikash_> whyyyyy
[17:54] <vikash_> i nevr encountrd Dt prob
[17:54] <Nickamg> Well its probably more to do with how shit flash is
[17:54] <vikash_> ooh
[17:55] <vikash_> dats tru
[17:55] <vikash_> i had prob in win8
[17:55] <Nickamg> I can not wait until HTML 5 properly takes off
[17:55] <vikash_> true
[17:57] <vikash_> @Peace i hav downloaded da panel collections bt how to install dem?????????????????????
[17:58] <Peace-> vikash_: is written
[17:58] <Peace-> vikash_: wget http://plasma-panels-script.googlecode.com/files/Plasma_Panels_Collection_1.3.zip && mkdir plasmatemp && unzip Plasma_Panels_Collection_1.3.zip -d "$PWD"/plasmatemp ; cd "$PWD"/plasmatemp; for file in *.zip; do $(plasmapkg -t layout-template -i "$file"); done
[17:58] <SunTsu> vikash_: question marks are lonesome wolfs
[17:58] <Peace-> vikash_: on the terminal
[17:59] <Peace-> vikash_: you need to install some stuff ....
[17:59] <Peace-> vikash_: sudo apt-get install plasma-widget-*
[17:59] <Peace-> and icontask
[18:00] <vikash_> oh okay thx
[18:01] <Nickamg> This makes it look like Gnome 3
[18:02] <vikash_> Wiz Khaliiifa
[18:02] <Nickamg> Youck
[18:02] <Nickamg> yuck*
[18:02] <vikash_> why
[18:02] <Nickamg> Have you used Ubuntu?
[18:02] <vikash_> yeap
[18:02] <Nickamg> It's pretty horrible now
[18:02] <vikash_> yes
[18:03] <vikash_> gnome 3
[18:03] <vikash_> disgustin
[18:05] <Peace-> Nickamg: so ubuntu is orrible ? xD look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiOgsG1GCBo
[18:08] <Nickamg> This is morally wrong
[18:09] <Peace-> hahahaa
[18:09] <vikash_> haha
[18:09] <Nickamg> How do I get this IRC client to stop giving me notifications in this window?
[18:09] <Peace-> Nickamg: ? quassel?
[18:10] <Nickamg> ah I found it
[18:10] <Nickamg> Ah, thats better
[18:11] <BluesKaj> Peace-, will you pls stop promoting Unity in Kubuntu, we need all the KDE members we can get :)
[18:11] <Peace-> BluesKaj: ahahhaa
[18:11] <Nickamg> haha
[18:12] <vikash_> Peace .. wat file name to write in dis command 'do $(plasmapkg -t layout-template -i "$file")'
[18:12] <psyentologist> can someone help me out with this kubuntu 11.1 ?
[18:12] <Nickamg> I bet you text like this on your cell eh!
[18:12] <Peace-> vikash_: you need only to copy and paste the code on konsole
[18:12] <Peace-> vikash_: you don't need to edit
[18:13] <vikash_> ooh
[18:13] <Nickamg> Sup Psy ?
[18:14] <BluesKaj> Nickamg, pls refrain from 'sup, lol etc 'this isn't IM-ing
[18:14] <Nickamg> lol
[18:14] <BluesKaj> use real words
[18:14] <psyentologist> Nickamg, I get the o/s installed just fine, then i go to muon package manager and do a "full upgrade" and (for the second time i've attempted this now) it halts @ 57 percent in the "committing changes" part (somewhere when its "running djpt" or something like that")
[18:14] <vikash_> @Peace.. its showing error :  bash: syntax error near unexpected token `do'
[18:14] <Nickamg> I was just trying to fit in with vikash
[18:15] <Peace-> vikash_: omg
[18:15] <vikash_> haha nickamg
[18:15] <Peace-> vikash_: you have copied bad
[18:15] <Peace-> copy and paste all the code
[18:15] <Peace-> :S
[18:15] <Nickamg> I had some troubles with the packge manager.
[18:15] <Peace-> vikash_: just copy the code from here http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Plasma+Panels+Collection+?content=147589
[18:16] <Peace-> vikash_: read!
[18:16] <Nickamg> Have you tried a apt-get update on the Konsole?
[18:16] <vikash_> i copied dis much: do $(plasmapkg -t layout-template -i "$file")
[18:16] <Peace-> no
[18:16] <Peace-> no
[18:16] <Peace-> no
[18:16] <Peace-> alll the cde
[18:16] <Peace-> code
[18:17] <BarkingFish> Peace-: while it might be fun, the enter key isn't punctuation :)
[18:17] <psyentologist> Nickamg, no i have not. I don't know how to, would you explain it to me ?
[18:17] <Peace-> vikash_: http://paste.kde.org/175946
[18:18] <Nickamg> Open up Konsole from the KDE Launch menu, bottom left blue icon
[18:19] <psyentologist> Nickamg, I've got it open now.
[18:19] <Nickamg> type Sudo apt-get update
[18:19] <Nickamg> you'll need to enter your password
[18:19] <vikash> @Peace do i hav to paste da whole code directly
[18:19] <vikash> ?
[18:19] <Peace-> vikash: LOL yes!
[18:19] <Nickamg> once that is done, type apt-get upgrade
[18:20] <Nickamg> If its the first time you've done this, I suggest making a cup of tea
[18:21] <psyentologist> i allready have some earl gray sitting on my desk beside me! (seriously!) okay, um, on the console is says "dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem."
[18:22] <Nickamg> HA I have some earl grey as well!
[18:22] <vikash_> @Peace  is it installed  its showing :are/apps/plasma/layout-templates//org.kde.plasma-desktop.attemptPanel" already exists
[18:22] <vikash_> Installation: command not found
[18:22] <vikash_> Successfully: command not found
[18:22] <vikash_> Successfully: command not found
[18:22] <vikash_> Successfully: command not found
[18:22] <vikash_> Successfully: command not found
[18:22] <vikash_> Successfully: command not found
[18:22] <vikash_> Successfully: command not found
[18:22] <BarkingFish> vikash_: Whoa!
[18:22] <vikash_> wat barkingfishh
[18:22] <BarkingFish> dude, try paste.ubuntu.com -
[18:23] <Peace-> xD
[18:23] <Peace-> vikash_: should be installed
[18:23] <vikash_> dood go dead fish
[18:23] <DarthFrog> !paste | vikash_
[18:23] <vikash_> ooh okay peacce
[18:23] <vikash_> ooh
[18:23] <vikash_> okay ubottu
[18:23] <Tech-1> lol
[18:23] <Peace-> vikash_: copy and paste   sudo apt-get install plasma-widget-*
[18:24] <psyentologist> it seems to be busy doing some setup of some sorts
[18:24] <Nickamg> Do you still have the software manager?
[18:24] <Nickamg> open^
[18:24] <psyentologist> no!
[18:24] <psyentologist> :)
[18:24] <vikash_> peace  .. i installed it already bt unable to install icontask
[18:25] <BluesKaj> psyentologist, also try, sudo apt-get -f install then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade ...muon is somewhat buggy atm , recommend apt-get in the konsole for updates/upgrade
[18:25] <Peace-> vikash_: 32 bit or 64?
[18:25] <Peace-> vikash_: your computer is 64bit or 32?
[18:25] <Nickamg> Yeah what Blue said.
[18:25] <Nickamg> :)
[18:25] <Peace-> Nickamg: are you neospwan?
[18:25] <vikash_> 64 peace.. 64 bit
[18:25] <Nickamg> haha yes
[18:25] <Nickamg> saw my comment?
[18:26] <psyentologist> BluesKaj, got it, thanks
[18:26] <Peace-> vikash_: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gnumdk/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install plasma-widget-icon-tasks
[18:26] <Peace-> copy and paste this
[18:26] <Peace-> Nickamg: ya
[18:27] <Nickamg> Flooder!
[18:27] <Nickamg> hehe cool
[18:27] <vikash_> high -big sean ft wiz
[18:27] <Nickamg> erm
[18:28] <psyentologist> BluesKag -- it seems to be working!!
[18:28] <Peace-> ?
[18:28] <Nickamg> oh Earl Grey tea is so wonderful after a hard days work in the lab.
[18:28] <vikash_> wat earlgrey
[18:28] <BluesKaj> psyentologist, good
[18:29] <Nickamg> Sainsburys, Taste The Difference
[18:29] <vikash_> stuck .. soft updates going on
[18:29] <vikash_> wuf
[18:29] <psyentologist> Hehehe :) Now i just gotta figure out why my "personal contacts" dir cant be found or whatever ...
[18:29] <Nickamg> I'm trying to change my default sound card
[18:30] <Nickamg> Which I have done, but it appears to be coming out my headphones still....
[18:30] <BluesKaj> psyentologist, kmail and kontact need to be reconfigged I'm afraid
[18:30] <BluesKaj> !kmail
[18:30] <psyentologist> BluesKaj yeah.. i read about those on some forums...
[18:30] <vikash_> i nevr used kmail kontact
[18:31] <Nickamg> gmail all the way
[18:31] <psyentologist> BluesKaj, it finished the remaining updates and says i need to restart my system
[18:31] <vikash_> yeap gmail
[18:31] <BluesKaj> ok psyentologist , sorry i can't help with kmail , i'm on t-bird and gmail
[18:31] <psyentologist> i'm just gunna ignore it. i use gmail as well
[18:31] <psyentologist> thanks u all
[18:31] <Nickamg> See ya after reboot perhaps psyentologist?
[18:31] <vikash_> good
[18:31] <Nickamg> Tell us how it went
[18:31] <BluesKaj> psyentologist, ok good
[18:31] <vikash_> yess
[18:31] <psyentologist> Yes! will see you shortly
[18:31] <Peace-> vikash_: so you did?
[18:32] <mime> hey all
[18:32] <Nickamg> Right now to get Wine installed
[18:32] <vikash_> Peace ..well no.. soft updates going on
[18:32] <Peace-> mm
[18:32] <Peace-> ok
[18:33] <Peace-> vikash_: anyway right click on the desktop add panel
[18:33] <vikash_> ok
[18:33] <Peace-> vikash_: yyou should be able to see some panels likke gnome2
[18:33] <outsider> hi?
[18:33] <Peace-> that shoud work vikash_
[18:33] <Peace-> but you need to remove your panels before vikash_
[18:34] <outsider> who i can add compiz
[18:34] <mime> just installed libaccodec5?, restricted extrs.. but when opened dragon i once closed in ''min 7'', just it started from min 0, any help plz?
[18:34] <Nickamg> Right I'm off to have some dinner, bbs
[18:34] <psyentologist> so far so good
[18:34] <outsider> just install compiz but dont works
[18:34] <Peace-> outsider: compiz?
[18:34] <mime> outsider install fusion-icon
[18:34] <Peace-> outsider: you don't need of compiz there is kwin effects
[18:35] <outsider> in the muon center
[18:35] <psyentologist> Quassel, and Konsole reopened after reboot
[18:35] <psyentologist> its like i never shut down the computer but i did
[18:35] <Peace-> psyentologist: because kde saves your sessions
[18:35] <Peace-> session
[18:35] <mime> yeah
[18:35] <outsider> i got fusion icon, but dont works
[18:35] <mime> or in console maybe try apt-get install (name)
[18:36] <mime> just installed libaccodec5?, restricted extrs.. but when opened dragon i once closed in ''min 7'', just it started from min 0, any help plz?
[18:36] <outsider> ok,,, im new in kubuntu i got 1 week
[18:36] <outsider> sorry,
[18:36] <Peace-> !restricted-formats
[18:36] <Peace-> -.-
[18:36] <outsider> i got other question
[18:36] <mime> me, Peace?
[18:36] <psyentologist> the desktop graphic effects on kubuntu 11.1 seem a lot smoother and everything seems more responsive, (mebbe better drivers?) but kubuntu 11.04 loaded up considerably faster
[18:37] <outsider> the best player for kubuntu, i got vlc, kaffeine,
[18:37] <outsider> dragon, wtc,
[18:37] <vikash> @Peace yes it worked ... i installed mac panel
[18:37] <vikash> but its only panel
[18:38] <Peace-> of course is only a panell LOL
[18:38] <outsider> lol
[18:38] <outsider> peace
[18:38] <Peace-> vikash: but you read the link i linked
[18:38] <mime> hey outsider, fusion-icon or compiz does not work?
[18:38] <Peace-> :S
[18:38] <vikash> oh okay
[18:38] <vikash> thanx
[18:38] <outsider> yeah dont work mie
[18:38] <outsider> mime
[18:38] <mime> try serching for fusion icon
[18:38] <mime> click it
[18:38] <outsider> i got that
[18:38] <Tech-1> rightt click
[18:38] <mime> go to tray where volume and time is
[18:39] <outsider> dont works
[18:39] <psyentologist> Well, i'm gunna go setup fire fox and quakelive now! fragon! :)
[18:39] <mime> nothig in tray? ok
[18:39] <mime> whait
[18:39] <outsider> ok, mime,
[18:40] <outsider> what player is the best, i got vlc, and others, i need a player like km player
[18:40] <outsider> but is only for windows
[18:40] <mime> hey do u have your drivers installed?
[18:40] <Tech-1> vlc/audacious/pana
[18:40] <mime> graphic ones?
[18:40] <outsider> yes
[18:40] <vikash_> @Peace which link....youtube one..
[18:40] <Tech-1> pana = aka amarok 1.4
[18:40] <mime> clementine
[18:40] <outsider> amarok is bad, i guees,
[18:40] <mime> xmms
[18:40] <Tech-1> from pannabunnies site .deb package
[18:41] <mime> clementine = amarok 1.4 for oeniric
[18:41] <Tech-1> amarok 1.4 is one of the best out there
[18:41] <mime> yeaah
[18:41] <Tech-1> clementine is good 2
[18:41] <outsider> other player with mkv codec?
[18:41] <Tech-1> vlc i thing
[18:42] <Tech-1> think
[18:42] <outsider> yeh i got vlc, xmms is good thank u
[18:42] <outsider> mime
[18:42] <mime> heu out do u have the setings package for compiz also?
[18:42] <outsider> mime yes, i got all but in the console
[18:42] <outsider> says someting about emerald
[18:43] <Tech-1> emerald is a wm desorator
[18:43] <Tech-1> decorator
[18:44] <mime> hey type in konsole
[18:44] <outsider> ok,
[18:44] <mime> compiz --replace
[18:44] <Tech-1> also, in kde, you have to go to settings to make compiz the head wm
[18:44] <mime> yes
[18:45] <psyrus> aw sweet!
[18:45] <outsider> konsole says, no protocol specified
[18:45] <mime> as default wm maybe u should live kwin if u dont have emerald
[18:45] <outsider> mmm,,
[18:45] <mime> or whatever it name is
[18:45] <outsider> ok,
[18:45] <psyrus> is this a freenode server ?
[18:46] <outsider> i think i dont have the video drivers
[18:46] <Tech-1> it takes alittle bit to set it up, but you have to do it in settings, then, the icon will do its job
[18:46] <genii-around> psyrus: Yes
[18:46] <outsider> but i installed the video dirvers, i mean
[18:46] <mime> go to the search label in the kde or with altfs searhc drivers
[18:46] <outsider> maybe installed the wronge drivers
[18:46] <psyrus> k,  i use this nick on freenode and my password worked.. nice
[18:46] <mime> altf2
[18:46] <vikash_> @Peace  takeoff : Depends: kdelibs but it is not installable
[18:47] <psyrus> i was psyentologist a few minues ago but someone has registered that name allready
[18:47] <mime> alt f2 - drivers- go until u see the green light, the recomended ones
[18:47] <mime> sorry, n green light
[18:47] <Peace-> vikash_: mmm sorry then you need to compile  or ...
[18:47] <Peace-> vikash_: you will never get it
[18:48] <outsider> mime u ar women?
[18:48] <vikash_> oh but how to compille peace
[18:48] <mime> select the recommended one Outsider
[18:48] <mime> no
[18:48] <outsider> ok,
[18:48] <outsider> lol
[18:48] <Peace-> vikash_: it's not easy . if you don't know it's better wait
[18:48] <Peace-> !compile | vikash_
[18:48] <outsider> mime,
[18:48] <mime> what
[18:49] <vikash_> oh thanx ubottu
[18:49] <outsider> after i intalled the drivers, who can add the compiz efects
[18:49] <outsider> in the desktop settings?
[18:49] <mime> just install fusion icon, click it, and there u select it
[18:49] <Tech-1> some times , once you install the drivers, you have to reboot for them to take
[18:49] <outsider> ook,
[18:49] <mime> in tray, like a blue squeare with an arrow
[18:50] <outsider> yeh i got that, i run the install fusion, but dont works, well thank you
[18:50] <mime> if it goes very slow, remember that, select ''loose rendering effects'' or something like that
[18:51] <mime> cya man, now i may go, also got some trouble with mine, cya all
[18:51] <outsider> c ya bro,
[18:51] <mime> =
[18:52] <outsider> who can add panels?
[18:52] <Tech-1> right click the panel/ add new
[18:52] <outsider> but says empty,
[18:53] <outsider> dont give me a option to download one
[18:53] <Tech-1> is that the new kde 4.7 ?
[18:54] <outsider> i got kde 11.10
[18:54] <Tech-1> lol
[18:54] <outsider> kubuntu 11.10
[18:54] <outsider> lol
[18:54] <Tech-1> thats kubuntu 11.10
[18:54] <outsider> yeah
[18:54] <Peace-> bye guys
[18:54] <Tech-1> i havent tried that 1 yet, so things may have changed, youll have to ask others or experiment
[18:55] <outsider> ook,, someone here got sabayon?
[18:55] <Tech-1> i used to have that
[18:55] <outsider> is good?
[18:55] <Tech-1> way cool os
[18:55] <outsider> ook,,, do you got back track ?
[18:55] <Tech-1> not yet
[18:55] <outsider> is too much for me,
[18:55] <Tech-1> may be
[18:56] <outsider> i need beini to,
[18:56] <outsider> too,
[18:56] <Tech-1> quite complicated and detailed
[18:56] <outsider> ok,
[18:56] <outsider> sorry bro, im new, and mi english sucks,
[18:56] <outsider> sorry,
[18:57] <Tech-1> no problem
[19:05] <outsider> see later ppl
[19:08] <jerrix> Evening every1 ! Just installed kubuntu 11.10 x64 "!
[19:09] <jerrix> Have to say its better than any distro i tried before .. i detest Unity xD
[19:09] <vikash_> cool jerrix
[19:09] <jerrix> everything works instantly too .. thats kinda cool .. he shows WIFI too .. just awsum
[19:10] <jerrix> Kubuntu is better than puppy too .. )
[19:14] <Tech-1> hey, slack puppy 5.3 rocks
[19:14] <Tech-1> i have it on a sd card
[19:14] <Jerrix[BE]> it does ? you mean 5.3.1 ?
[19:14] <Tech-1> Yeah
[19:14] <Tech-1> kicks butt
[19:14] <Jerrix[BE]> cause there were a few bugs in the first 1..
[19:14] <Jerrix[BE]> couldnt load into os
[19:14] <Tech-1> its good to go
[19:15] <Jerrix[BE]> after installed on hdd partitions .. ye it is .. on an old USB or something like that
[19:15] <Tech-1> well, i put it on a sd card , not hdd
[19:15] <Jerrix[BE]> but at start i had kernel panics ..
[19:15] <Tech-1> D`oh!
[19:15] <Jerrix[BE]> actually you can install it to hdd too
[19:15] <Tech-1> i know
[19:15] <Jerrix[BE]> i know its not the way to go .. Cause it works in RAM i know . ..
[19:15] <Tech-1> but i travel and i can use almost any pc and have fun
[19:15] <Jerrix[BE]> yep thats true .. p
[19:16] <Tech-1> one i installed it, i put everything and the kitchen sink, then saved it so when i use it, it has everything at my finger tips
[19:16] <Jerrix[BE]> Tech-1: its always nice to see what they put into 150MB
[19:17] <Tech-1> Yeah
[19:17] <Tech-1> my sd card is 4g
[19:17] <Tech-1> perfect
[19:17] <vikash_> whoa really puppy dat cool
[19:17] <Jerrix[BE]> Tech-1: but i don't like the standard gui .. but's that s personal :p
[19:17] <vikash_> ..
[19:18] <Tech-1> i used intel graphics, works excellent
[19:18] <Jerrix[BE]> Tech-1: does ur wifi works ?
[19:18] <Tech-1> perfectly
[19:18] <Tech-1> borad 413
[19:18] <Jerrix[BE]> Tech-1: manually ssid ?
[19:18] <Tech-1> bcom
[19:18] <Tech-1> no, it confoged on boot
[19:18] <Tech-1> configed
[19:18] <Jerrix[BE]> Tech-1: nice :P
[19:19] <Tech-1> Yeah
[19:19] <Tech-1> they did a good job w it
[19:19] <Jerrix[BE]> Tech-1: should reconsider then :p
[19:19] <Jerrix[BE]> Tech-1: but i'm fine with kubuntu at this moment ..
[19:19] <Tech-1> ya, i use ku and gn on a hdd, puppy for sd card for travel
[19:20] <Jerrix[BE]> Tech-1: sounds fair :p
[19:20] <Jerrix[BE]> i tried mint be4 .. like 2 weeks ago .. didn't like it
[19:21] <Tech-1> it has some bugs, but i worked them out
[19:21] <Tech-1> do you have ati card ?
[19:21] <Jerrix[BE]> Tech-1: did not have the time to .. kinda busy
[19:21] <Jerrix[BE]> Tech-1: nope
[19:21] <Tech-1> good
[19:21] <Jerrix[BE]> Tech-1: nvidia gt 540m
[19:21] <Tech-1> nvidia for linux
[19:21] <Tech-1> Yeah
[19:22] <Tech-1> Info:      Processes 149 Uptime 3:17 Memory 361.1/4022.9MB Client X-Chat 2.8.8 inxi 1.7.27
[19:22] <Jerrix[BE]> long time no CLI .. how did you become that line ? :P
[19:22] <Tech-1> inxi
[19:22] <Tech-1> it uses gawk
[19:23] <Tech-1> Graphics:  Card: nVidia G84 [GeForce 8600 GT]
[19:23] <Tech-1>            X.Org 1.10.1 drivers nvidia (unloaded: fbdev,vesa,nouveau) Resolution 1600x900@50.0hz
[19:23] <Tech-1>            GLX Renderer GeForce 8600 GT/PCI/SSE2/3DNOW! GLX Version 3.3.0 NVIDIA 270.41.06
[19:23] <Jerrix[BE]> Tech-1:  shame  ? inxi ?? :P
[19:23] <Tech-1> hehe
[19:24] <Jerrix[BE]> inxi
[19:24] <Jerrix[BE]> ? :P
[19:24] <Tech-1> hold
[19:24] <Jerrix[BE]> Tech-1: sure thing
[19:24] <Tech-1> http://techpatterns.com/forums/about1133.html
[19:25] <Tech-1> plus sudo apt-get install gawk
[19:25] <Tech-1> then, to update  as root    inxi -U
[19:25] <Jerrix[BE]> kk sec
[19:25] <Tech-1> k
[19:25] <Jerrix[BE]> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[19:25] <Jerrix[BE]> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[19:26] <Jerrix[BE]> aaah
[19:26] <Jerrix[BE]> since i'm updating
[19:26] <Tech-1> lol
[19:26] <Jerrix[BE]> aargh :p
[19:26] <FloodBotK1> Jerrix[BE]: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:26] <Tech-1> D`oh!
[19:26] <Jerrix[BE]> =(
[19:26] <Jerrix[BE]> where r u from tech ? :p
[19:26] <Jerrix[BE]> if i may ask
[19:26] <Jerrix[BE]> :p
[19:27] <Tech-1> the command once you get installe dis this  .. /exec -o inxi -F
[19:27] <Tech-1> but not here
[19:27] <Tech-1> fla
[19:27] <Jerrix[BE]> Tech-1:  belgium here :P
[19:28] <Tech-1> cool
[19:28] <Tech-1> i have a customer on the way, so i may step out for a while.
[19:28] <Jerrix[BE]> allright
[19:37] <Jerrix[BE]> Any1 ? Seems like updating is stuck and apps are not running .. cant even soft reboot ? its stuck on dpkg :P
[19:48] <JoeSomebody> hi, problem installing on toshiba win7 satellite 650 , using kubuntu 64 bit i see the thing is locking up at configuring network device, does this mean bad lan card , or incompatible?
[19:48] <JoeSomebody> i turned off ahci in bios
[20:04] <JoeSomebody> "starting configure network device" and then it just stops
[20:04] <JoeSomebody> i reset my lan, if someone responded i missed it
[20:36] <jerrix> why is my battery discharging so fast ? xD
[21:12] <mime> hey ppl, any help for dragon? unable to resume video where it was closed...
[21:15] <zj> hi everyone
[21:15] <zj> I am new here
[21:15] <zj> can anyone telle me how to update?
[21:18] <BluesKaj> zj, open a terminal , sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:19] <zj> Thanks BluesKaj
[21:19] <BluesKaj> zj, ok
[21:20] <BluesKaj> zj, personally i run the first command , then after checking what's to be updated , I then run the second command
[21:22] <BluesKaj> bbl
[22:03] <darkjedi> Hi there
[22:03] <darkjedi> I am looking for some help
[22:04] <darkjedi> I am trying to optimise VLC transcoding
[22:04] <darkjedi> and get less of the following error
[22:05] <darkjedi> "late buffer for muz input"
[22:05] <darkjedi> Any ideas
[22:05] <darkjedi> ?
[22:31] <noaXess_netubu> hey all
[22:33] <noaXess_netubu> what can that be, that i cat resume my netbook with any key... can suspend it but no resume..i'm on oneiric
[22:33] <noaXess_netubu> what does resume control
[22:33] <noaXess_netubu> ?
[22:36] <TheEvilPhoenix> try using the power button/switch
[22:36] <TheEvilPhoenix> that might fix that
[22:41] <noaXess_netubu> no TheEvilPhoenix also power switch won't work
[22:42] <noaXess_netubu> found this for kernel option acpi_sleep=nonvs
[22:43] <noaXess_netubu> try it
[22:46] <PeoplesAdvocate> Quick question. I wanted to download Kubuntu but was wondering if I could get KDE 4.7.4 installed quickly with binary packages. Came here http://kde.org/info/4.7.4.php and clicked the Kubuntu link at the bottom but says it is using 4.7.3
[22:46] <PeoplesAdvocate> which is it?