[00:30] <Daekdroom> Hm.
[00:30] <Daekdroom> How much RAM does unity-panel-service use for you guys? (in x64)
[00:34] <FernandoMiguel> fernando  2268  1.3  0.3 443444 30436 ?        Sl   Dec19   4:13 /usr/lib/unity/unity-panel-service
[01:38] <paulo_gomes> hi all
[01:39] <paulo_gomes> how can i edit the startup applications? the program doesn't show all of them.
[01:41] <paulo_gomes> i see, the it creates a link in ~/.config/autostart to disable loading. Do i have to do that manualy, or there's some command tha do it?
[01:46] <paulo_gomes> found it.
[07:38] <psypher246> hello all.  is anyone else having issues with the update manager. I haven't once been able to update precise using update manager, always bombs out with :It seems that the daemon died.
[07:38] <urlin2u> have you tried apt-get?
[07:39] <psypher246> yeah thats fine
[07:40] <psypher246> i can start update manager and click install updates, then it pauses for about 2 mins then box pops up
[07:40] <psypher246> The connection to the daemon was lost. Most likely the background daemon crashed.
[07:40] <psypher246> It seems that the daemon died.
[07:42] <urlin2u> not helpful but I see this on the UF. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11551062
[07:42] <psypher246> ah, i found this issue from last year but the bug says solved
[07:43] <psypher246> i will check out that post thougbh, thanks
[08:51] <psypher246> hello all, anyone else unable to install skype pkg on 64bit? complains about broken dependencies ia32-libs and ia32-libs-multiarch
[13:00] <jp_Hranice> Hallo. I can not run Precise on my nvidia GeForce 6600. I can not start low-graphic mode too. jiri.podvolecky@volny.cz
[13:04] <iceroot> jp_Hranice: we need usefull infos like error-messages
[13:05] <jp_Hranice> iceroot: logs ?
[13:05] <iceroot> jp_Hranice: something usefull
[13:10] <jp_Hranice> iceroot: Xorg0.log at http://pastebin.com/kLHZDCFk
[13:11] <iceroot> [    15.792] (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!
[13:11] <iceroot> how you installed the drivers?
[13:11] <iceroot> tried the free-drivers also?
[13:11] <jp_Hranice> it is clear installation
[13:12] <iceroot> so you are using the oss-drivers at the moment?
[13:13] <jp_Hranice> once i try to install nvidia-current by apt-get but now I am unable to run console with net.
[13:14] <jp_Hranice> iceroot: oss-drivers ? It is driver for sound, is not it ?
[13:15] <iceroot> oss = open source software
[13:17] <jp_Hranice> actualy there is nvidia driver installed by apt-get.
[15:26] <chand> Hi
[15:28] <chand> with xorg packages from xorg-edgers ppa unity seems broken, gnome-shell works
[18:18] <alex_mayorga> any clues on what might cause bug 907012 ?
[18:29] <alex_mayorga> anyone using alternate clocks in pangolin?
[18:35] <alex_mayorga> indicator-datetime is definitely leaking memory, creeping upward of 250m already
[18:35] <alex_mayorga> any way to kill it for good?
[18:37] <nhaines>  alex_mayorga is that just when you're using alternate clocks or always?
[18:38] <alex_mayorga> nhaines: seems to be always as I just removed any alternates and is still hogging RAM 340m right now
[18:42] <nhaines> alex_mayorga: hmm, that's pretty bad.  :(  Please file a bug!
[18:42] <nhaines> In the meantime, there should be a package indicator-datetime that you can uninstall to remove it from the panel.
[18:42] <alex_mayorga> nhaines: did already bug 907012
[18:43] <nhaines> yay!  \o/
[18:43] <nhaines> Thanks for filing the bug.
[18:43] <alex_mayorga> I find hard to believe I'm the only one seeing this
[18:44] <alex_mayorga> nhaines: can you run "top" see if it's the same on your end?
[18:45] <nhaines> alex_mayorga: I'm not running precise right now because Bluetooth wasn't working with the alpha 1 ISO, but I do intend to test again in the next day or two.
[18:47] <alex_mayorga> nhaines: bluetooth audio worked last I checked
[18:47]  * alex_mayorga knocks on wood
[18:47] <nhaines> I didn't get an indicator applet for Bluetooth.  But I'll grab a daily ISO and burn it today.  :)
[18:52] <FernandoMiguel> evening
[18:53] <FernandoMiguel> hummm what is gnome-contacts ?
[18:53] <pangolin> !info gnome-contacts
[18:59] <FernandoMiguel> pangolin: it just got pulled into my system
[18:59] <FernandoMiguel> wondering where it comes from and what it will give me
[19:00] <FernandoMiguel> gnome-contacts
[19:00] <FernandoMiguel> Reverse Depends:
[19:00] <FernandoMiguel>   gnome-contacts:i386
[19:00] <FernandoMiguel>   gnome-shell
[19:00] <FernandoMiguel>   gnome-core
[19:30] <bjsnider> FernandoMiguel, works in conjunction with gnome-shell's user menu
[19:30] <bjsnider> it should also be pulling in gnome-documents
[19:40] <FernandoMiguel> gnome-documents:
[19:40] <FernandoMiguel>   Installed: (none)
[19:40] <FernandoMiguel>   Candidate: 0.2.1-1
[19:40] <FernandoMiguel> bjsnider: ^^^^
[19:40] <FernandoMiguel> gnome-documents
[19:40] <FernandoMiguel> Reverse Depends:
[19:40] <FernandoMiguel>   gnome-documents:i386
[19:40] <bjsnider> hm, that is part of gnome now
[19:41] <bjsnider> it's not absolutely life-thretening that you have it, but it's a new part of gnome
[19:41] <bjsnider> those two and gnome-sushi are all part of the "new" gnome
[19:42] <FernandoMiguel> it's those little bugs on updates
[19:58] <alex_mayorga> really no one sees /usr/lib/indicator-datetime/indicator-datetime-service leaking like crazy?
[20:01] <FernandoMiguel> alex_mayorga: no
[20:02] <genii-around> alex_mayorga: Not here either
[20:03] <alex_mayorga> FernandoMiguel, genii-around: thanks! I wonder what could be causing bug 907012 for me then
[20:03] <alex_mayorga> FernandoMiguel, genii-around: do you use alternate clocks?
[20:03] <genii-around> Standard clock
[20:03] <FernandoMiguel> me too
[20:04] <alex_mayorga> can you add an alternate one and see if it goes crazy?
[20:35] <alex_mayorga> FernandoMiguel, genii-around: did you try?
[20:36] <FernandoMiguel> no
[20:36] <FernandoMiguel> not even an idea on how to get one of those
[20:37] <genii-around> alex_mayorga: I can't have the machine getting slower and slower right now, I'm doing a large rsync
[20:37] <alex_mayorga> genii-around: I see
[20:38] <FernandoMiguel> genii-around: nohup :P
[20:38] <alex_mayorga> FernandoMiguel: click the clock, time&date settings, clock tab, click choose locations...
[20:39] <alex_mayorga> FernandoMiguel: then add a couple there using the green plus sign
[20:40] <alex_mayorga> FernandoMiguel: load top on a terminal and watch your RAM get consumed :)
[20:40] <FernandoMiguel> ok
[20:41] <FernandoMiguel> while I test that, can you install openuniverse and open it?
[20:41] <alex_mayorga>  !info openuniverse
[20:41] <FernandoMiguel> it crashes X on my side
[20:42] <alex_mayorga> FernandoMiguel: installing
[20:43] <bjsnider> "crash" is such an ugly word
[20:43] <bjsnider> i prefer to think of it as an unscheduled interruption
[20:43] <alex_mayorga> FernandoMiguel: loaded just fine here, I can see Earth
[20:43] <FernandoMiguel> MEM | tot     7.7G  | free  129.6M |  cache   3.3G | dirty   0.2M  | buff  289.6M |  slab  334.4M |               |               |              |               |
[20:43] <FernandoMiguel> no memory change
[20:44] <FernandoMiguel> bjsnider: I couldn't type that even if I had to do it to grab lunch
[20:45] <alex_mayorga> FernandoMiguel: if you click the clock now, do you see the alternate clocks? For me they just flashed for a split second but never really appeared
[20:45] <FernandoMiguel> changed 3 times
[20:45] <FernandoMiguel> no mem leaks
[20:47] <trism> alex_mayorga: which time zone did you add? added one here and the memory usage is unchanged
[20:47] <alex_mayorga> trism: these https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/907012/+attachment/2641665/+files/Locations.png
[20:47] <alex_mayorga> but now I've removed them all and the thing still consumes memory really fast
[20:48] <alex_mayorga> "580m" according to top
[20:49] <alex_mayorga> if I try to remove indicator-datetime it tries removing most of the desktop :(
[20:49] <FernandoMiguel> sorry, can't see anything that low on my system
[20:50] <alex_mayorga> FernandoMiguel: openuniverse seems like a neat new toy, thanks!
[20:50] <FernandoMiguel>  9702                   0/s                   0/s                  278K                363.8M                20800K                     0K                    0K                fernando                fernando                  0%                 gnome-terminal
[20:50] <FernandoMiguel> naa don't see indicator there
[20:50] <FernandoMiguel> alex_mayorga: :/
[20:50] <FernandoMiguel> I can't run it
[20:51] <FernandoMiguel> it blows unity/compiz
[20:51] <FernandoMiguel> alex_mayorga: can you DRAG it around?
[20:51] <alex_mayorga> FernandoMiguel: tried running it from a console_
[20:51] <FernandoMiguel> the Windown, I mean
[20:51] <alex_mayorga> FernandoMiguel: yup! no issue moving the window around
[20:51] <FernandoMiguel> :(
[20:53] <alex_mayorga> anyone that can help me debug that RAM hogging process?
[21:01] <jtaylor> alex_mayorga: running the process under valgrind might give some good clues
[21:05] <alex_mayorga> jtaylor: n00b here, got a link?
[21:07] <jtaylor> http://valgrind.org/
[21:08] <jtaylor> valgrind --leak-check=full --log-file=logfile process-name
[21:12] <alex_mayorga> jtaylor: thanks
[21:13] <jtaylor> the process will get very very slow
[21:14] <alex_mayorga> how can I get indicator-datetime from respawning?
[21:14] <alex_mayorga> a new process comes up as soon as I kill the current one :(
[21:18] <alex_mayorga> tried this: valgrind --leak-check=full --log-file=file.log /usr/lib/indicator-datetime/indicator-datetime-service
[21:19] <alex_mayorga> fot it fails with these messages: libindicator-WARNING **: Name request failed. and Indicator-Datetime-WARNING **: Shutting down service!
[21:22] <alex_mayorga> does anyone know where the indicator maintainers hang?
[21:26] <jtaylor> #ubuntu-desktop is probably a good place to look
[21:30] <urlin2u> alex_mayorga, bat down the street I think. :D
[21:30] <urlin2u> bar*
[21:35] <alex_mayorga> there's hope, bug 907012 confirmed 15 or so minutes ago \o/
[21:41] <alex_mayorga> urlin2u: no bar on this street :( perhaps that's the business opportunity I've been looking for...
[21:42] <urlin2u> alex_mayorga, you never know no do you.
[21:43] <urlin2u> now*