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DaekdroomHm.00:30
DaekdroomHow much RAM does unity-panel-service use for you guys? (in x64)00:30
FernandoMiguelfernando  2268  1.3  0.3 443444 30436 ?        Sl   Dec19   4:13 /usr/lib/unity/unity-panel-service00:34
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paulo_gomeshi all01:38
paulo_gomeshow can i edit the startup applications? the program doesn't show all of them.01:39
paulo_gomesi see, the it creates a link in ~/.config/autostart to disable loading. Do i have to do that manualy, or there's some command tha do it?01:41
paulo_gomesfound it.01:46
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psypher246hello all.  is anyone else having issues with the update manager. I haven't once been able to update precise using update manager, always bombs out with :It seems that the daemon died.07:38
urlin2uhave you tried apt-get?07:38
psypher246yeah thats fine07:39
psypher246i can start update manager and click install updates, then it pauses for about 2 mins then box pops up07:40
psypher246The connection to the daemon was lost. Most likely the background daemon crashed.07:40
psypher246It seems that the daemon died.07:40
urlin2unot helpful but I see this on the UF. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1155106207:42
psypher246ah, i found this issue from last year but the bug says solved07:42
psypher246i will check out that post thougbh, thanks07:43
psypher246hello all, anyone else unable to install skype pkg on 64bit? complains about broken dependencies ia32-libs and ia32-libs-multiarch08:51
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jp_HraniceHallo. I can not run Precise on my nvidia GeForce 6600. I can not start low-graphic mode too. jiri.podvolecky@volny.cz13:00
icerootjp_Hranice: we need usefull infos like error-messages13:04
jp_Hraniceiceroot: logs ?13:05
icerootjp_Hranice: something usefull13:05
jp_Hraniceiceroot: Xorg0.log at http://pastebin.com/kLHZDCFk13:10
iceroot[    15.792] (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!13:11
iceroothow you installed the drivers?13:11
iceroottried the free-drivers also?13:11
jp_Hraniceit is clear installation13:11
icerootso you are using the oss-drivers at the moment?13:12
jp_Hraniceonce i try to install nvidia-current by apt-get but now I am unable to run console with net.13:13
jp_Hraniceiceroot: oss-drivers ? It is driver for sound, is not it ?13:14
icerootoss = open source software13:15
jp_Hraniceactualy there is nvidia driver installed by apt-get.13:17
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chandHi15:26
chandwith xorg packages from xorg-edgers ppa unity seems broken, gnome-shell works15:28
alex_mayorgaany clues on what might cause bug 907012 ?18:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 907012 in indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) "indicator-datetime uses 80% of RAM or 3.1g" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90701218:18
alex_mayorgaanyone using alternate clocks in pangolin?18:29
alex_mayorgaindicator-datetime is definitely leaking memory, creeping upward of 250m already18:35
alex_mayorgaany way to kill it for good?18:35
nhaines alex_mayorga is that just when you're using alternate clocks or always?18:37
alex_mayorganhaines: seems to be always as I just removed any alternates and is still hogging RAM 340m right now18:38
nhainesalex_mayorga: hmm, that's pretty bad.  :(  Please file a bug!18:42
nhainesIn the meantime, there should be a package indicator-datetime that you can uninstall to remove it from the panel.18:42
alex_mayorganhaines: did already bug 90701218:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 907012 in indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) "indicator-datetime uses 80% of RAM or 3.1g" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90701218:42
nhainesyay!  \o/18:43
nhainesThanks for filing the bug.18:43
alex_mayorgaI find hard to believe I'm the only one seeing this18:43
alex_mayorganhaines: can you run "top" see if it's the same on your end?18:44
nhainesalex_mayorga: I'm not running precise right now because Bluetooth wasn't working with the alpha 1 ISO, but I do intend to test again in the next day or two.18:45
alex_mayorganhaines: bluetooth audio worked last I checked18:47
* alex_mayorga knocks on wood18:47
nhainesI didn't get an indicator applet for Bluetooth.  But I'll grab a daily ISO and burn it today.  :)18:47
FernandoMiguelevening18:52
FernandoMiguelhummm what is gnome-contacts ?18:53
pangolin!info gnome-contacts18:53
ubottugnome-contacts (source: gnome-contacts): Contacts manager for gnome. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.0.1-0ubuntu2 (oneiric), package size 198 kB, installed size 1184 kB18:54
FernandoMiguelpangolin: it just got pulled into my system18:59
FernandoMiguelwondering where it comes from and what it will give me18:59
FernandoMiguelgnome-contacts19:00
FernandoMiguelReverse Depends:19:00
FernandoMiguel  gnome-contacts:i38619:00
FernandoMiguel  gnome-shell19:00
FernandoMiguel  gnome-core19:00
bjsniderFernandoMiguel, works in conjunction with gnome-shell's user menu19:30
bjsniderit should also be pulling in gnome-documents19:30
FernandoMiguelgnome-documents:19:40
FernandoMiguel  Installed: (none)19:40
FernandoMiguel  Candidate: 0.2.1-119:40
FernandoMiguelbjsnider: ^^^^19:40
FernandoMiguelgnome-documents19:40
FernandoMiguelReverse Depends:19:40
FernandoMiguel  gnome-documents:i38619:40
bjsniderhm, that is part of gnome now19:40
bjsniderit's not absolutely life-thretening that you have it, but it's a new part of gnome19:41
bjsniderthose two and gnome-sushi are all part of the "new" gnome19:41
FernandoMiguelit's those little bugs on updates19:42
alex_mayorgareally no one sees /usr/lib/indicator-datetime/indicator-datetime-service leaking like crazy?19:58
FernandoMiguelalex_mayorga: no20:01
genii-aroundalex_mayorga: Not here either20:02
alex_mayorgaFernandoMiguel, genii-around: thanks! I wonder what could be causing bug 907012 for me then20:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 907012 in indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) "indicator-datetime uses 80% of RAM or 3.1g" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90701220:03
alex_mayorgaFernandoMiguel, genii-around: do you use alternate clocks?20:03
genii-aroundStandard clock20:03
FernandoMiguelme too20:03
alex_mayorgacan you add an alternate one and see if it goes crazy?20:04
alex_mayorgaFernandoMiguel, genii-around: did you try?20:35
FernandoMiguelno20:36
FernandoMiguelnot even an idea on how to get one of those20:36
genii-aroundalex_mayorga: I can't have the machine getting slower and slower right now, I'm doing a large rsync20:37
alex_mayorgagenii-around: I see20:37
FernandoMiguelgenii-around: nohup :P20:38
alex_mayorgaFernandoMiguel: click the clock, time&date settings, clock tab, click choose locations...20:38
alex_mayorgaFernandoMiguel: then add a couple there using the green plus sign20:39
alex_mayorgaFernandoMiguel: load top on a terminal and watch your RAM get consumed :)20:40
FernandoMiguelok20:40
FernandoMiguelwhile I test that, can you install openuniverse and open it?20:41
alex_mayorga !info openuniverse20:41
ubottuopenuniverse (source: openuniverse): 3D Universe Simulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0beta3.1+dfsg-1build1 (oneiric), package size 111 kB, installed size 448 kB20:41
FernandoMiguelit crashes X on my side20:41
alex_mayorgaFernandoMiguel: installing20:42
bjsnider"crash" is such an ugly word20:43
bjsnideri prefer to think of it as an unscheduled interruption20:43
alex_mayorgaFernandoMiguel: loaded just fine here, I can see Earth20:43
FernandoMiguelMEM | tot     7.7G  | free  129.6M |  cache   3.3G | dirty   0.2M  | buff  289.6M |  slab  334.4M |               |               |              |               |20:43
FernandoMiguelno memory change20:43
FernandoMiguelbjsnider: I couldn't type that even if I had to do it to grab lunch20:44
alex_mayorgaFernandoMiguel: if you click the clock now, do you see the alternate clocks? For me they just flashed for a split second but never really appeared20:45
FernandoMiguelchanged 3 times20:45
FernandoMiguelno mem leaks20:45
trismalex_mayorga: which time zone did you add? added one here and the memory usage is unchanged20:47
alex_mayorgatrism: these https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/907012/+attachment/2641665/+files/Locations.png20:47
ubottuUbuntu bug 907012 in indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) "indicator-datetime uses 80% of RAM or 3.1g" [Undecided,New]20:47
alex_mayorgabut now I've removed them all and the thing still consumes memory really fast20:47
alex_mayorga"580m" according to top20:48
alex_mayorgaif I try to remove indicator-datetime it tries removing most of the desktop :(20:49
FernandoMiguelsorry, can't see anything that low on my system20:49
alex_mayorgaFernandoMiguel: openuniverse seems like a neat new toy, thanks!20:50
FernandoMiguel 9702                   0/s                   0/s                  278K                363.8M                20800K                     0K                    0K                fernando                fernando                  0%                 gnome-terminal20:50
FernandoMiguelnaa don't see indicator there20:50
FernandoMiguelalex_mayorga: :/20:50
FernandoMiguelI can't run it20:50
FernandoMiguelit blows unity/compiz20:51
FernandoMiguelalex_mayorga: can you DRAG it around?20:51
alex_mayorgaFernandoMiguel: tried running it from a console_20:51
FernandoMiguelthe Windown, I mean20:51
alex_mayorgaFernandoMiguel: yup! no issue moving the window around20:51
FernandoMiguel:(20:51
alex_mayorgaanyone that can help me debug that RAM hogging process?20:53
jtayloralex_mayorga: running the process under valgrind might give some good clues21:01
alex_mayorgajtaylor: n00b here, got a link?21:05
jtaylorhttp://valgrind.org/21:07
jtaylorvalgrind --leak-check=full --log-file=logfile process-name21:08
alex_mayorgajtaylor: thanks21:12
jtaylorthe process will get very very slow21:13
alex_mayorgahow can I get indicator-datetime from respawning?21:14
alex_mayorgaa new process comes up as soon as I kill the current one :(21:14
alex_mayorgatried this: valgrind --leak-check=full --log-file=file.log /usr/lib/indicator-datetime/indicator-datetime-service21:18
alex_mayorgafot it fails with these messages: libindicator-WARNING **: Name request failed. and Indicator-Datetime-WARNING **: Shutting down service!21:19
alex_mayorgadoes anyone know where the indicator maintainers hang?21:22
jtaylor#ubuntu-desktop is probably a good place to look21:26
urlin2ualex_mayorga, bat down the street I think. :D21:30
urlin2ubar*21:30
alex_mayorgathere's hope, bug 907012 confirmed 15 or so minutes ago \o/21:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 907012 in indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) "indicator-datetime uses 80% of RAM or 3.1g" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90701221:35
alex_mayorgaurlin2u: no bar on this street :( perhaps that's the business opportunity I've been looking for...21:41
urlin2ualex_mayorga, you never know no do you.21:42
urlin2unow*21:43
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