[00:30] Hm. [00:30] How much RAM does unity-panel-service use for you guys? (in x64) [00:34] fernando 2268 1.3 0.3 443444 30436 ? Sl Dec19 4:13 /usr/lib/unity/unity-panel-service === ^O^ is now known as kholerabbi === kholerabbi is now known as kholerabbi|away| === kholerabbi|away| is now known as kholerabbi [01:38] hi all [01:39] how can i edit the startup applications? the program doesn't show all of them. [01:41] i see, the it creates a link in ~/.config/autostart to disable loading. Do i have to do that manualy, or there's some command tha do it? [01:46] found it. === kholerabbi is now known as kholerabbi|away === kholerabbi|away is now known as kholerabbi [07:38] hello all. is anyone else having issues with the update manager. I haven't once been able to update precise using update manager, always bombs out with :It seems that the daemon died. [07:38] have you tried apt-get? [07:39] yeah thats fine [07:40] i can start update manager and click install updates, then it pauses for about 2 mins then box pops up [07:40] The connection to the daemon was lost. Most likely the background daemon crashed. [07:40] It seems that the daemon died. [07:42] not helpful but I see this on the UF. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11551062 [07:42] ah, i found this issue from last year but the bug says solved [07:43] i will check out that post thougbh, thanks [08:51] hello all, anyone else unable to install skype pkg on 64bit? complains about broken dependencies ia32-libs and ia32-libs-multiarch === kholerabbi is now known as kholerabbi|away === jamestunnicliff_ is now known as jamestunnicliffe === sagaci_ is now known as sagaci [13:00] Hallo. I can not run Precise on my nvidia GeForce 6600. I can not start low-graphic mode too. jiri.podvolecky@volny.cz [13:04] jp_Hranice: we need usefull infos like error-messages [13:05] iceroot: logs ? [13:05] jp_Hranice: something usefull [13:10] iceroot: Xorg0.log at http://pastebin.com/kLHZDCFk [13:11] [ 15.792] (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module! [13:11] how you installed the drivers? [13:11] tried the free-drivers also? [13:11] it is clear installation [13:12] so you are using the oss-drivers at the moment? [13:13] once i try to install nvidia-current by apt-get but now I am unable to run console with net. [13:14] iceroot: oss-drivers ? It is driver for sound, is not it ? [13:15] oss = open source software [13:17] actualy there is nvidia driver installed by apt-get. === davidcalle_ is now known as davidcalle === doko_ is now known as doko [15:26] Hi [15:28] with xorg packages from xorg-edgers ppa unity seems broken, gnome-shell works [18:18] any clues on what might cause bug 907012 ? [18:18] Launchpad bug 907012 in indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) "indicator-datetime uses 80% of RAM or 3.1g" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/907012 [18:29] anyone using alternate clocks in pangolin? [18:35] indicator-datetime is definitely leaking memory, creeping upward of 250m already [18:35] any way to kill it for good? [18:37] alex_mayorga is that just when you're using alternate clocks or always? [18:38] nhaines: seems to be always as I just removed any alternates and is still hogging RAM 340m right now [18:42] alex_mayorga: hmm, that's pretty bad. :( Please file a bug! [18:42] In the meantime, there should be a package indicator-datetime that you can uninstall to remove it from the panel. [18:42] nhaines: did already bug 907012 [18:42] Launchpad bug 907012 in indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) "indicator-datetime uses 80% of RAM or 3.1g" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/907012 [18:43] yay! \o/ [18:43] Thanks for filing the bug. [18:43] I find hard to believe I'm the only one seeing this [18:44] nhaines: can you run "top" see if it's the same on your end? [18:45] alex_mayorga: I'm not running precise right now because Bluetooth wasn't working with the alpha 1 ISO, but I do intend to test again in the next day or two. [18:47] nhaines: bluetooth audio worked last I checked [18:47] * alex_mayorga knocks on wood [18:47] I didn't get an indicator applet for Bluetooth. But I'll grab a daily ISO and burn it today. :) [18:52] evening [18:53] hummm what is gnome-contacts ? [18:53] !info gnome-contacts [18:54] gnome-contacts (source: gnome-contacts): Contacts manager for gnome. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.0.1-0ubuntu2 (oneiric), package size 198 kB, installed size 1184 kB [18:59] pangolin: it just got pulled into my system [18:59] wondering where it comes from and what it will give me [19:00] gnome-contacts [19:00] Reverse Depends: [19:00] gnome-contacts:i386 [19:00] gnome-shell [19:00] gnome-core [19:30] FernandoMiguel, works in conjunction with gnome-shell's user menu [19:30] it should also be pulling in gnome-documents [19:40] gnome-documents: [19:40] Installed: (none) [19:40] Candidate: 0.2.1-1 [19:40] bjsnider: ^^^^ [19:40] gnome-documents [19:40] Reverse Depends: [19:40] gnome-documents:i386 [19:40] hm, that is part of gnome now [19:41] it's not absolutely life-thretening that you have it, but it's a new part of gnome [19:41] those two and gnome-sushi are all part of the "new" gnome [19:42] it's those little bugs on updates [19:58] really no one sees /usr/lib/indicator-datetime/indicator-datetime-service leaking like crazy? [20:01] alex_mayorga: no [20:02] alex_mayorga: Not here either [20:03] FernandoMiguel, genii-around: thanks! I wonder what could be causing bug 907012 for me then [20:03] Launchpad bug 907012 in indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) "indicator-datetime uses 80% of RAM or 3.1g" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/907012 [20:03] FernandoMiguel, genii-around: do you use alternate clocks? [20:03] Standard clock [20:03] me too [20:04] can you add an alternate one and see if it goes crazy? [20:35] FernandoMiguel, genii-around: did you try? [20:36] no [20:36] not even an idea on how to get one of those [20:37] alex_mayorga: I can't have the machine getting slower and slower right now, I'm doing a large rsync [20:37] genii-around: I see [20:38] genii-around: nohup :P [20:38] FernandoMiguel: click the clock, time&date settings, clock tab, click choose locations... [20:39] FernandoMiguel: then add a couple there using the green plus sign [20:40] FernandoMiguel: load top on a terminal and watch your RAM get consumed :) [20:40] ok [20:41] while I test that, can you install openuniverse and open it? [20:41] !info openuniverse [20:41] openuniverse (source: openuniverse): 3D Universe Simulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0beta3.1+dfsg-1build1 (oneiric), package size 111 kB, installed size 448 kB [20:41] it crashes X on my side [20:42] FernandoMiguel: installing [20:43] "crash" is such an ugly word [20:43] i prefer to think of it as an unscheduled interruption [20:43] FernandoMiguel: loaded just fine here, I can see Earth [20:43] MEM | tot 7.7G | free 129.6M | cache 3.3G | dirty 0.2M | buff 289.6M | slab 334.4M | | | | | [20:43] no memory change [20:44] bjsnider: I couldn't type that even if I had to do it to grab lunch [20:45] FernandoMiguel: if you click the clock now, do you see the alternate clocks? For me they just flashed for a split second but never really appeared [20:45] changed 3 times [20:45] no mem leaks [20:47] alex_mayorga: which time zone did you add? added one here and the memory usage is unchanged [20:47] trism: these https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/907012/+attachment/2641665/+files/Locations.png [20:47] Ubuntu bug 907012 in indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) "indicator-datetime uses 80% of RAM or 3.1g" [Undecided,New] [20:47] but now I've removed them all and the thing still consumes memory really fast [20:48] "580m" according to top [20:49] if I try to remove indicator-datetime it tries removing most of the desktop :( [20:49] sorry, can't see anything that low on my system [20:50] FernandoMiguel: openuniverse seems like a neat new toy, thanks! [20:50] 9702 0/s 0/s 278K 363.8M 20800K 0K 0K fernando fernando 0% gnome-terminal [20:50] naa don't see indicator there [20:50] alex_mayorga: :/ [20:50] I can't run it [20:51] it blows unity/compiz [20:51] alex_mayorga: can you DRAG it around? [20:51] FernandoMiguel: tried running it from a console_ [20:51] the Windown, I mean [20:51] FernandoMiguel: yup! no issue moving the window around [20:51] :( [20:53] anyone that can help me debug that RAM hogging process? [21:01] alex_mayorga: running the process under valgrind might give some good clues [21:05] jtaylor: n00b here, got a link? [21:07] http://valgrind.org/ [21:08] valgrind --leak-check=full --log-file=logfile process-name [21:12] jtaylor: thanks [21:13] the process will get very very slow [21:14] how can I get indicator-datetime from respawning? [21:14] a new process comes up as soon as I kill the current one :( [21:18] tried this: valgrind --leak-check=full --log-file=file.log /usr/lib/indicator-datetime/indicator-datetime-service [21:19] fot it fails with these messages: libindicator-WARNING **: Name request failed. and Indicator-Datetime-WARNING **: Shutting down service! [21:22] does anyone know where the indicator maintainers hang? [21:26] #ubuntu-desktop is probably a good place to look [21:30] alex_mayorga, bat down the street I think. :D [21:30] bar* [21:35] there's hope, bug 907012 confirmed 15 or so minutes ago \o/ [21:35] Launchpad bug 907012 in indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) "indicator-datetime uses 80% of RAM or 3.1g" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/907012 [21:41] urlin2u: no bar on this street :( perhaps that's the business opportunity I've been looking for... [21:42] alex_mayorga, you never know no do you. [21:43] now* === semitones is now known as semitones-tail