[07:56] <dholbach> good morning
[07:56] <head_victim> G'day dholbach
[07:56] <mainerror> o/
[07:56] <dholbach> hey head_victim, mainerror
[07:57]  * head_victim is a little excited, the LoCo website is being updated
[07:57] <dholbach> nice :)
[08:03]  * mainerror is also a bit excited because he has to create his LoCo's site.
[08:03] <mainerror> :D
[08:03] <head_victim> Hah, win-win :D
[08:03] <mainerror> I was talking about the Austrian LoCo site just in case you thought I was talking about yours. :)
[08:04] <head_victim> Funny, mine's the Australian LoCo ;)
[08:04] <head_victim> It's a bit of coincidence all around
[08:04] <mainerror> Oh yea, that is the Austria with Kangaroos.
[08:05] <mainerror> Mine is the Australia with the Alps. Or the other way around ... who cares. :D
[08:06] <dholbach> haha
[08:06] <dholbach> in Berlin there's an Austrian restaurant called "No kangaroo" in the area where I live :)
[08:07] <mainerror> lol
[08:07] <head_victim> This has the makings of a good joke "A German, an Austrian and an Australian walk into a restaurant".
[08:07] <mainerror> What an awesome name. :D
[08:08] <dholbach> what I like most about it is they have ski lift seats for seats at the bar
[08:10] <nigelb> dholbach: That sounds amazing ;)
[08:10] <nigelb> head_victim: lol
[08:10] <nigelb> Morning dholbach, mainerror
[08:10] <nigelb> Evening head_victim :)
[08:11] <mainerror> Hello nigelb :)
[08:24] <head_victim> ubuntu.org.au  <--- let me know what you think :)
[08:25] <head_victim> It's a canonical hosted website based, upgraded to drupal 6 with the UbuntuDrupal theme
[08:26] <nigelb> head_victim: You need more margins on the sides.
[08:26] <nigelb> Its too close to the window borders.
[08:26] <head_victim> nigelb: thanks, I'm on a 24inch monitor so probably hiding that a little
[08:27] <nigelb> Also, fluid layout WIN
[08:27] <head_victim> nigelb: I'm an absolute novice with this so all help gratefully accepted :)
[08:27] <head_victim> Fluid layout?
[08:27] <nigelb> head_victim: when I make the window smaller, your layout resizes appropriately. That's great!
[08:28] <head_victim> nigelb: oh, don't thank me, thank the UbuntuDrupal team and Canonical :) I'm just the lucky person who gets to tweak the finished product :D
[08:28] <nigelb> AlanBell or Pendulum can give you a little more accessibility tips. I'm a novice in that :-)
[08:28] <head_victim> I have no idea how to do anything but from within the drupal website admin page and even then most of it I struggle with
[08:29] <mainerror> Right, the margin suggestion is good.
[08:29] <nigelb> I wish we could all move to Wordpress, so much more easier to manage than drupal.
[08:30] <head_victim> nigelb: Canonical host ours so for our team it's much easier to manage than hosting our own ;)
[08:30] <head_victim> Any suggestions on what the "accepted" minimum and maximum widths are?
[08:31] <head_victim> It's currently fluid between 600 - 1500
[08:31] <mainerror> nigelb: I don't know. It may be easier to manage but I don't find it that easy to theme.
[08:32] <nigelb> mainerror: Oh? I thought WP was easier to theme. I may be wrong.
[08:32] <nigelb> head_victim: that's probably fine. However, in that case you're not going to look great on mobile.
[08:33] <nigelb> (yeah, the pains for web design)
[08:33] <mainerror> I'm not a professional at either of them I'm just talking from my limited experience with both systems. :)
[08:33] <head_victim> nigelb: open to suggestions, should I drop the lower end to 400 or so?
[08:34] <nigelb> head_victim: Nah. You need to do that with different stylesheets (10x more painful)
[08:34] <head_victim> Ahh fair enough I'll probably just leave it as it is for now and see what comes from multiple people looking
[08:34] <mainerror> Well you can make use of the @media query.
[08:41] <czajkowski> aloha
[08:42] <head_victim> czajkowski: ubuntu.org.au - Drupal 6 made it :)
[08:42] <czajkowski> yay
[14:18] <dholbach> jcastro, I guess we won't have a team meeting today
[14:18] <dholbach> no jono, no dpm
[14:18] <jcastro> heh
[14:19] <jcastro> dholbach: just you, me, and master of puppets
[14:20] <dholbach> that might actually almost be better than the mixtape I'm listening to
[14:20]  * dholbach picks another one
[14:21] <jcastro> can you get pandora over there?
[14:22] <jcastro> I'm almost all listening to that these days instead of the music I have
[14:22] <dholbach> I'm listening to stuff on mixcloud.com right now
[14:23] <dholbach> "Dear Pandora Visitor,
[14:23] <dholbach> We are deeply, deeply sorry to say that due to licensing constraints, we can no longer allow access to Pandora for listeners located outside of the U.S. ...."
[14:25] <jcastro> :(
[14:26] <mainerror> Thank god someone very very smart invented the proxy. :D
[14:33] <dholbach> akgraner, when I asked around what kind of sessions would be nice to have at UDW, somebody suggested "Porting popular packages from x86 to ARM." - do you think we can find somebody from the Linaro heads to help out with that one? :)
[14:39] <mainerror> That would be a very interesting session!
[14:53] <akgraner> dholbach, I'll put the word out and see what I can find :-)
[14:54] <dholbach> thanks akgraner
[15:34] <doctormon> hi all
[15:36] <popey> hello doctormon
[15:37] <doctormon> leaving London :-)
[15:37] <popey> heading oop norf?
[15:38] <doctormon> inded I am sir
[15:40] <doctormon> enjoying Euston's first class lounge
[16:09] <jcastro> dholbach: do you listen to dubstep?
[16:10] <dholbach> jcastro, yes
[16:12] <dholbach> http://www.mixcloud.com/dlex/its-dubstep-who-cares/ for example is a nice one
[16:31] <mainerror> Dude, mixcloud is awesome!
[16:32] <dholbach> it is :)
[16:32] <dholbach> but there's not many folks who timecode their mixes
[16:32] <dholbach> so you never know which song is playing
[16:33] <dholbach> I love it when you click on a song and it tells you which other mixes also have the same song, so you find possibly related good new stuff
[16:33] <dholbach> one resolution I have for next year is: get more stuff on mixcloud :)
[16:34] <dholbach> but it should be easy to achieve - I just did 3 in half a year :)
[16:34] <mainerror> Wait, you make music?
[16:34] <dholbach> http://www.mixcloud.com/dholbach/
[17:01] <dholbach> alright my friends - I call it a day - see you all tomorrow - hugs!
[17:02]  * popey hugs dholbach 
[17:02] <dholbach> :)
[17:09] <mainerror> o/
[21:18] <czajkowski> JanC: you're posting to the loco contacts with an unregistered email
[21:19] <JanC> hm?
[21:19] <JanC> did I?
[21:21] <JanC> ow, now I remember, I'm probably subscribed on that list with lists@  ☺
[21:21] <JanC> should add both in mailman, I guess
[21:22] <JanC> so that you don't have to moderate it next time...
[21:23] <czajkowski> :)
[21:42] <JanC> czajkowski: will you be at FOSDEM (and are you interested in that panel)?
[21:43] <JanC> I guess Sergio and some others might be interested too
[21:44] <JanC> or maybe huats or someone else from the french loco
[22:03] <czajkowski> I'll be there
[22:04] <czajkowski> not had a chance to read the email
[22:04] <czajkowski> finishing up some stuff here
[22:07] <JanC> right, we have until next week  ☺
[22:07] <JanC> they want a panel session on things like ubuntu locoteams, fedora ambassadors, and such
[22:08] <czajkowski> I've mailed alison also
[22:08] <czajkowski> as she was hoping to attend FOSDEM
[22:11] <MrChrisDruif> Fedora ambassadors?
[22:12] <JanC> MrChrisDruif: people with a funny red fedora on their head  ;)
[22:12] <MrChrisDruif> Not blue?
[22:12] <JanC> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors
[22:12] <MrChrisDruif> Ow, at FOSDEM?
[22:12] <MrChrisDruif> It's in Brussels I've heard?
[22:12] <JanC> yes
[22:13] <JanC> fosdem.org  ;)
[22:18] <huats> hello JanC and czajkowski
[22:18] <huats> I am not sure I'll be able to attend this year
[22:18] <JanC> 'lo huats   ☺
[22:19] <huats> thanks anyway :)
[22:19] <huats> I 'll let you know if it is the case (well if I can attend :))
[22:19] <JanC> huats: and you're not the only person in your locoteam of course
[22:20] <huats> of course !
[22:20] <JanC> huats: ubuntu-fr interested in co-operating the booth again?
[22:20] <huats> I am sure it is the case
[22:20] <huats> but I'll ask anyway
[22:21] <JanC> I haven't planned anything practical yet, but useful to know...   ;)
[22:27] <MrChrisDruif> First weekend of February...
[22:27] <MrChrisDruif> Haven't planned anything yet...have to figure out what the cost would be
[22:37] <mhall119> woot!  wrote my first Unity lens: http://ubuntuone.com/6enw5v14UdzTMFhvuABgye
[22:37] <mhall119> jcastro: ^^ check it out!
[22:42] <MrChrisDruif> mhall119; some kind of dictionary lens?
[22:45] <mhall119> MrChrisDruif: yup
[22:45] <mhall119> it uses online an dictionary for definition, plus local spellcheck for verification and suggestions
[22:45] <mhall119> an online dictionary, :P
[22:46] <MrChrisDruif> =)
[22:47] <JanC> MrChrisDruif: not sure where you live, but SWAT comes most of the time, so you might be able to do some carpooling
[22:47]  * MrChrisDruif resides in Zoetermeer
[22:48] <JanC> MrChrisDruif: it's mostly a developer conference though, so be prepared for mostly technical content
[22:48] <MrChrisDruif> Yeah, was seeing that too...so I'll probably pass =)
[22:49] <JanC> MrChrisDruif: I don't remember all that you do exactly  ;)
[22:50] <MrChrisDruif> What do you mean?
[22:50] <MrChrisDruif> Ow, read wrong =)
[22:50] <MrChrisDruif> But indeed, not very dev orientated
[22:51] <JanC> well, you seem to study programming?
[22:52] <MrChrisDruif> Used to..indeed =)
[22:52] <JanC> aw, gave up on it?
[22:53] <JanC> what are you studying now? (if anything?)
[22:53] <MrChrisDruif> Well, I had to. I didn't have enough points
[22:53] <JanC> hm
[22:53] <MrChrisDruif> The way the study went wasn't my flow...I have to do to learn...
[22:54]  * JanC doesn't really understand the dutch school system  ;)
[22:54]  * MrChrisDruif neither ;-)
[22:54] <MrChrisDruif> Anyhow...atm I'm not studying anything
[22:54] <JanC> so... looking for a job or working?
[22:55] <MrChrisDruif> I work 2 days a week on average (or I should, I work more then that) at a local gas-station
[22:55] <MrChrisDruif> But I'm not enjoying myself over there
[22:56] <MrChrisDruif> So I DON'T want to extend my contract if I can...so I'm looking for another job
[22:57] <JanC> eh, good luck with that then  ☺
[22:57] <MrChrisDruif> Thanks
[22:57] <MrChrisDruif> It's with a local computer store...it'll be more up my ally
[23:03] <AlanBell> mhall119: how did you get the long comment? is that just \n in the comment field or something else?
[23:03] <AlanBell> and what is one supposed to do for things in a lens which don't have an obvious thumbnail?
[23:06] <mhall119> AlanBell: so there are different "renderers" you can use
[23:06] <mhall119> the first 2 sections use a vertical tiling renderer
[23:06] <mhall119> the bottom section uses a horizontal tiling renderer, that one includes the "comment" text of an entry as well (the vertical one doesn't)
[23:07] <mhall119> AlanBell: you can specify an icon name, and it'll look it up based on the theme
[23:07] <mhall119> for example, I'm using "file", "hint" and "accessories-dictionary" icons
[23:08] <mhall119> AlanBell: I'll do a more thorough writeup on my blog, plus a tutorial on the wiki in the coming days, I promise
[23:09] <AlanBell> I have a lens working already
[23:12] <mhall119> oh, well fine then :P
[23:12] <mhall119> I'm going to do all that stuff anyway
[23:12] <AlanBell> \n in the comment works :)
[23:16] <mhall119> AlanBell: what does yours do?
[23:16] <mhall119> and in what language?
[23:16] <AlanBell> in python
[23:16] <AlanBell> it is a business data lens
[23:17] <AlanBell> and I have a scope for openERP, it connects over XMLRPC and searches the customer database
[23:17] <AlanBell> I will get it searching invoices and deliveries and such
[23:18] <AlanBell> and I will add a vTiger scope too, so you can search multiple business systems for a customer name and get a combined view of stuff and click things to open the relevant document
[23:18] <AlanBell> it was based on the porn lens :)
[23:21] <MrChrisDruif> Porn....it's a good base for EVERYTHING! =D
[23:23] <AlanBell> never actually installed the porn lens, just used it as a template to crib the structure from
[23:24] <AlanBell> it is in python and not very complicated
[23:25] <JanC> AlanBell: you might be able to provide a "less offensive" minimal example lens then...  ;)
[23:27] <AlanBell> there probably is a better "hello world" lens out there
[23:28] <AlanBell> in fact mhall119's writeup will probably be one :)
[23:28] <AlanBell> I am a bit puzzled by the insistence that everything should have an icon in a lens though
[23:36] <mhall119> AlanBell: how are you handling auth credentials for that?
[23:36] <AlanBell> badly :)
[23:36] <AlanBell> right now hard coded, I was going to pop up and ask for a password first time you use it
[23:37] <AlanBell> then hold them in the scope for the duration of the scope
[23:38] <AlanBell> it can look up the default server and database and username from .openerprc all it needs is a password