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AlanBellmorning all07:29
dutchiemorning AlanBell and everyone else08:02
christelgood morning :D08:12
cgriffWow someone's happy about the morning ;)08:14
dutchiei am happy about the morning08:15
dutchieit means my night shift is over and i can go to sleep :D08:15
dutchiewell, in 45 minutes08:15
cgriffHeh well I haven't slept yet and don't really intend to until tonight08:16
TheOpenSourcererMy brother-in-law built this 3rd scale model plane to test a new cheap eco-friendly plane that should be on sale next year. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfVDMGuiOlo Looks really cool.08:16
TheOpenSourcererhttp://web.me.com/tony.bishop/e-Go/welcome.html08:17
cgriffWow that's pretty cool, I've never seen a rear-propeller aeroplane before08:18
TheOpenSourcererApparently it will do ~100mph @ 70MPG!08:21
daubersMorning08:22
cgriffMornin'08:23
* daubers impliments YaDB in django08:24
TheOpenSourcererOh dear. Shame: http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/tech-industry/3326202/seagate-completes-acquisition-of-samsungs-hdd-business08:26
christelooh nifty (plane)08:27
daubersTheOpenSourcerer: WD have almost completed buying hitachi now too :(08:30
TheOpenSourcererYeah - only two manf. left.08:30
TheOpenSourcererSamsung drives have been excellent - almost all of ours are spinpoints.08:31
TheOpenSourcererCool - Top 5 gifts for Open Sourcerers: http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/246503/five_lastminute_gifts_for_open_source_fans.html08:35
daubersWe use loads of samsung and probably a similar amount of hitachi08:40
daubersHave used some WD 2.5" drives which weren't too bad08:40
czajkowskialoha08:42
dauberso/08:44
christelmorning lauraloo08:51
MooDoohello all08:54
czajkowskihello lovely christel08:58
christelhow are you pretty lady? :)08:59
MooDoo+1 christel :D08:59
czajkowskichristel: ntb, packing up last bits and working on some stuff here flight tomorrow :)09:00
* christel tickles MooDoo 09:00
christelaah yes! off to ireland for christmas noms and festive fun? :)09:01
* MooDoo chuckles and tickles christel back09:01
czajkowskichristel: yup09:01
* MooDoo tickles czajkowski and hopes he gets away with it :D09:02
czajkowskioi09:02
MooDoo:)09:02
MooDoolove you09:02
christelshe is a bit loveable!09:03
MooDoochristel: i know09:03
czajkowskinutters09:04
* MooDoo hugs czajkowski 09:06
bigcalmGood morning lovelies :)09:15
MooDoomorning bigcalm09:17
popeymorning09:24
bigcalmHowdy09:25
daubersah django, you do make me laugh sometimes09:44
daubersThere is no abstraction for a "password" field, but there is for an IP address field09:45
gingcan't let anyone know your ip! they can steal your internets with it09:49
daubersAlso.... I have a job opening coming up. So if anyone here who knows a bit about networking and a bit about python and  a lot about troubleshooting wants a job where they can design the entire process/system for their role, let me know :)09:52
bigcalmOh look, VLC has a santa hat on it09:54
AlanBelldaubers: feel free to mail the list with that10:05
MooDoodaubers: sounds good.10:06
TwinkletoesI'm trying to use pam auth, but constantly getting TCP_DENIED/407 errors.  I followed the instructions from here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/squid-with-pam-authentication-363470/#post4291686, with the addition of 'http_access allow auth_users'.  Can anyone help me troubleshoot please?10:07
TwinkletoesSorry... ^^^ (squid)10:08
daubersAlanBell: Will do :)10:13
jutnuxTwinkletoes: sudo apt-get wgetpaste10:14
jutnuxsudo wgetpaste /etc/squid/squid.conf10:14
jutnuxGive the link here.10:15
livingdayliteanyone use stresslinux?10:17
livingdaylitehi jutnux10:17
jutnux\o10:17
jutnuxNever heard of it.10:17
livingdaylitejutnux: petting my external hd didn't revive it :(10:17
livingdayliteguys looking for a cheap but good base unit10:18
livingdaylitelooks like my pc is a goner... I installed a fresh xubuntu but the problems persist. After some time of use the system simply freezes up10:19
ali1234don't call it a base unit10:19
ali1234also don't call it a "hard drive"10:19
occupy64ksoft drive?10:19
livingdayliteI don't know whether it is hd , motherboard or what. The hd is a fairly new replacement, but I suspect there may be something with the box, but I don't know how to diagnose and narrow the problem down. I did a memtest and that showed no errors10:20
livingdaylitehard to imagine that the hd is at fault [again/already]10:21
ali1234i'm just saying10:22
ali1234dont go in a computer shop and ask for a "base unit"10:22
ali1234they will think you are a noob and try to rip you off10:22
livingdayliteI'm considering a Lenovo H42010:24
livingdaylitelooking on ebay, I'm surprised how pricey these base units are [still]10:25
gordonjcplivingdaylite: checked the fans?10:29
ali1234what is your budget?10:29
livingdayliteali1234: £200-£300 £350 tops10:31
popeylivingdaylite: http://www.ebuyer.com/251310-zoostorm-desktop-7873-1036 200 quid10:32
Twinkletoesjutnux: Can't find that in repos10:33
jutnuxErm10:33
Twinkletoesjutnux: (wgetpaste)10:33
popeyuse pastebinit10:33
popey!info pastebinit10:33
lubotu3pastebinit (source: pastebinit): command-line pastebin client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2-2 (natty), package size 30 kB, installed size 480 kB10:34
jutnuxSorry, wgetpaste is in arch.10:34
Twinkletoesjutnux: So do you want details of my squid config?10:34
jutnuxYeah.10:35
Twinkletoesjutnux: I'll detail the differences from a default install...10:35
livingdaylitegordonjcp: seem to... you say fans? I have a big fan sitting on top of cpu and that is working10:35
livingdaylitein bios I noticed that I have in health status fan options set to disabled and when I enabled them I got a big beep sound, so I turned them off.10:36
daubers\o/ email away10:37
Myrttidoes anyone want to buy a Samsung PL-120 camera off my hands?10:38
Myrttistill in packaging and shrinkwrap and all...10:39
Twinkletoesjutnux: http://pastebin.com/NfzZtp3h10:41
jutnuxTwinkletoes, acl password proxy_auth REQUIRED?10:42
Twinkletoesjutnux: It means that it will match any authenticated user10:42
jutnuxYes is it in there?10:43
jutnuxCourse it is I'm blind10:43
jutnuxAre you running a firewall?10:43
Twinkletoesjutnux: No firewall.  I get challenged by the squid, but it seems to fail, with the error in the log10:44
Twinkletoesjutnux: TCP_DENIED/407 2851 GET http://....10:44
jutnuxHave you opened the ports?10:44
jutnuxThat's if you're trying to access remotely10:45
Twinkletoesjutnux: It's working because squid challenges my browser10:45
jutnuxAh10:45
jutnuxI have no idea then, sorreh.10:45
Twinkletoesjutnux: Thanks for looking over it ; )_10:45
Twinkletoesjutnux: My feeling was that pam wasn't returning the right code10:51
brobostigongood morning everyone.10:51
MooDoomorning10:53
brobostigonmorning MooDoo10:54
jutnux\o brobostigon10:59
brobostigono/ jutnux11:04
livingdaylitepopey: thanks. Looks like a good unit on the whole. Maybe one can't expect more for £200.  Doesn't specify motherboard or power unit... no hdmi either means I'd want to get a graphics card. but no bad reviews.11:05
gordonjcplivingdaylite: the beeping suggests that one or more of your fans is not healthy11:28
gordonjcplivingdaylite: this could be the cause of your problems11:28
BigRedSIs there a firefox add-on that'll let me run regexes against webpages to edit teh html before display?11:38
BigRedSor, more ideally, shove webpages through an external script before display11:38
AlanBellgreasemonkey11:39
BigRedSoh yeah11:39
BigRedSthat'd do it11:39
BigRedSI might even learn a bit of javascript in the process11:39
jutnuxs/Bieber/Douche11:40
livingdaylitegordonjcp: the fans are working so, I don't know what's causing teh beeping. I agree though, beeping is not what one wants to hear11:43
monsterwizardaccording to a new study11:45
monsterwizardI'm not longer a person11:45
MooDoomonsterwizard: you're a number now?11:45
monsterwizardeven worse11:46
monsterwizarda hex number11:46
monsterwizardhow long would ubuntu take to install under wubi?11:55
ging<------------------->11:55
monsterwizardhahahah11:56
Myrttipopey: ♥11:58
monsterwizardlol it fails11:59
popeyhmm?11:59
monsterwizardIt installs the amd version :S11:59
monsterwizardI have an i511:59
Myrttipopey: happy $seasonal_event :-)12:00
popey:D12:00
zleaplivingdaylite, not sure if this helps,  my verbatim external hdd beeps if is is plugged into my old pc and that is turned off,12:01
monsterwizardperl scalar?12:01
directhexmonsterwizard, erm...12:07
directhexmonsterwizard, "amd64" is the name of the instruction set. intel's clone is called em64t, or nowadays "intel 64"12:07
directhexmonsterwizard, amd64 code runs on 64-bit intel chips too, excluding itanium12:08
monsterwizard:o12:11
monsterwizardhahahahah12:11
monsterwizardoops12:11
directhexjust as "i386" code runs on AMD chips too12:12
daubersnom nom nom nom crisps12:14
monsterwizardheart aatack :o12:16
popeyhello12:27
bigcalmGood afternoon12:32
christelhi popey, bigcalm :)12:42
* bigcalm jumps on christel 12:42
christelmeep!12:42
* MooDoo jumps on bigcalm 12:42
brobostigonthreesome, eeek.12:43
bigcalmOh no12:43
MooDoosteady12:43
bigcalmI was thinking more about 'pile-on!' from my school days12:43
bigcalmI was usually at the bottom of said pile12:43
* MooDoo is a bit heavy to go on top of the pil on12:44
MooDoopile on12:44
* TheOpenSourcerer jumps on top and flattens the lot of you :-D12:59
christel<312:59
daubersWoooooo! Shelving has arrived12:59
zleapbigcalm, yeah know how u feel at the bottom of the pile sometimes, I work with kids,  so they still do this to each other.13:00
bigcalmdaubers: you have an exciting life there ;)13:03
* mattt jumps on top of dauber's shelving13:04
matttouchies13:04
ubuntuuk-planet[oimon] Power monitoring with linux&the low-energy way - http://oimon.wordpress.com/2011/12/20/power-monitoring-with-linux-the-low-energy-way/13:05
daubersbigcalm: It's warehouse style racking shelving13:08
daubersVery exciting :) Means I can reclaim some space down there13:08
daubersalso, I can order some zigbees tomorrow \o/13:11
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bigcalmdaubers: this sort of thing? http://www.gigant.co.uk/products/view/302213:29
daubersbigcalm: Ish, but significantly larger13:30
daubersbigcalm: Think warehouse type shelving13:30
bigcalmProper pallet racks?13:31
bigcalmYou must have a big house13:31
daubersnot my house, it's for work :)13:31
bigcalmAh, fair enough :D13:32
bigcalmI used to work in a pallet wear house. Going up and down 80ft high racks13:32
bigcalmThe thought of such things in a house worried me13:32
jpdsbigcalm: That's a lot of servers.13:39
daubersbigcalm: They won't quite be 80ft high13:40
daubersbut they are floor to ceiling13:40
bigcalmjpds: joke.popey.com13:41
MartijnVdSbigcalm: http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=2001022713:42
brobostigonsarcasm.popry.com13:42
brobostigonsarcasm.popey.com13:42
MartijnVdSPopery.com?13:42
brobostigonMartijnVdS: my finger hit the wrong button.13:43
MartijnVdSI thought the English didn't like popery.. at least, around the 17th century13:43
selinuxiumHi guys... Is there anyway of keeping couchdb in sync across different PCs... It would be useful to have my gwibber history available on my laptop and desktop...13:44
jpdsselinuxium: Ubuntu One?13:45
selinuxiumjpds, possibly... I just don't know the mechanics, and what if I have accidentally left the pc on when I am on the laptop? :13:46
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jpdsselinuxium: Maybe oneconf would do it, don't know.13:50
selinuxiumjpds: looks interesting... Thanks i will take a look anyway.13:57
ali1234razor-qt just made slashdot14:01
ali1234i didn't know there was a ppa14:01
daubersgod, carphone warehouses phone system is pants14:06
daubersOffers you an option to check the progress of a repair,  but then just gives you options to ask about a new repair14:06
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oimon1argh my tv aerial snapped off in the high winds the other day...just noticed in time for christmas :(14:39
Seeker`oimon1: that sucks14:40
oimon1bigtime14:40
Seeker`I need to trawl through the listings and set stuff to record14:40
oimon1never called a aerial repairman before, have no clue what to expect14:40
oimon1not evn suere if i share it with my neighbour14:41
BigRedSyou probably don't14:41
oimon1it's a terrace, but that might mean my neighbour has sky instead14:42
oimon1we share a chimney14:42
BigRedSyeah, but normally you'd just have one aerial each on the chimney14:43
BigRedSIME - I'm not an aerial repair guy either14:44
MartijnVdSBigRedS: You could share aerials. Sat dishes are harder to share (but not impossible)15:09
BigRedSMartijnVdS: yeah, you *could* but I've never known anyone do that15:10
MartijnVdSBigRedS: OK so it's not common.. :)15:10
MartijnVdSor you don't know many people :P15:10
BigRedShaha15:13
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zleapdo the dvd rendering programs render in real time as in a 1hour avi will take 1 hour to render ?17:11
Seeker`not likely17:12
popeydepends on the power of your computer17:13
jutnuxProbably not17:13
jacobwdvd rendering?17:14
gingi remember when it took all night17:15
zleapok17:15
zleapok i am converting the new voyages episode to dvd forma17:15
zleapformat17:15
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tonytigerEvening!17:59
tonytigerI hope you're all getting ready to listen in two and a bit hours!17:59
bigcalmAfternoon tonytiger18:00
tonytigerhi bigcalm18:00
bigcalmIf only for the panto18:00
bigcalmAnd I want to know what the WC has been up to18:00
tonytiger:)18:09
pwuertzsphinx19:25
daubersevening19:35
zleap2helllo19:42
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zleapwhere does bonbono dvd authoring software put output files, i can't find the directory it has said what i have just created in20:08
zleapok bombono or what ever its called20:10
zleapok mytery solved in a hidden folder .cache with in home20:12
smittixevening all20:31
BigRedSGood morning!20:31
smittixAnyone know of a good speedtest site to test a 100meg connection?20:31
MartijnVdSsmittix: wget something from here: ftp://ftp.xs4all.nl/pub/test/20:32
smittixcoolio thanks!20:33
smittixHmm, can only get 1mb/s down from there.20:35
brobostigoncool, roy wood is on hairy bikers, on bbc2. :)20:57
brobostigonand he still looks like the hippy he was20:59
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peejay1977Hey all :)21:59
AlanBellI have a bit of a big bootchart to decypher22:44
AlanBellhttp://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/alanlaptop-oneiric-20111220-1.png < warning, very very very big and crashes my session on oneiric trying to open it22:46
jutnuxAlanBell: I've opened it, have no idea what to do though.22:49
jutnuxKind of useless I guess haha22:49
AlanBellok, seems part of the problem was I never let it idle for bootchart to stop, so it has my impatient startup of firefox in the chart23:01
jutnuxOh right, okay.23:02
gordonjcpwhat's the current favourite for video editing in Linux?23:13
* AlanBell likes openshot23:19
AlanBellbecause I am not clever enough to use blender23:19
* Nafallo thought blender was for 3D modelling...23:20
AlanBellit is, but it also has a video editor in it23:20
Nafalloo_o23:20
AlanBellyou can have video textures on 3d objects and there is a powerful video editor in there to help with that23:20
gordonjcpooo23:21
gordonjcpdidn't know that23:21
gordonjcpI was using kdenlive, that seems okay23:21
AlanBellhttp://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Doc:2.4/Manual/Sequencer23:21
gordonjcpno, openshot isn't really working for me23:26
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gordonjcpthere appears to be no way to actually edit video with it23:26
gordonjcpwhich seems like a major obstacle23:26
* Laney wibbly wobbly woo23:27
AlanBellgordonjcp: what do you mean by edit video?23:29
gordonjcpAlanBell: well, it lets me import a video file, and drop it on the timeline23:29
AlanBellyou can chop up clips and splice them together with transitions23:29
gordonjcpand... that's about it23:29
Nafallogordonjcp: my android came with something for that... :-P23:30
AlanBellthe scisors icon lets you cut up the clip23:30
gordonjcpdoesn't appear to do anything here23:31
gordonjcpoh okay, that just crashed X to an astounding degree23:31
AlanBelloh dear :(23:32
gordonjcphm, need to power off the machine, it's hung the graphics card23:32
gordonjcpI really, really hate Intel chipsets23:32
AlanBellnormally you drag clips to the timeline, click the razor tool (which is the scisors) and click the clip where you want to chop it up into bits23:32
AlanBellthen you can drag the smaller clips about, stick them on different timelines, throw them away etc23:33
AlanBelland you can use transitions to go between timelines, and you can do animated titles which sets up a script of a blender template so it does rendered 3d text and effects that can overlay the videos23:33
AlanBellnight all o/23:35
Nafallohrm23:36
Nafallowho's involved in the podcast these days?23:36
bigcalm!ping23:41
lubotu3another contentless ping... sigh...23:41

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