[01:00] <blake_l> ds
[01:01] <blake_loring> dds
[07:29] <AlanBell> morning all
[08:02] <dutchie> morning AlanBell and everyone else
[08:12] <christel> good morning :D
[08:14] <cgriff> Wow someone's happy about the morning ;)
[08:15] <dutchie> i am happy about the morning
[08:15] <dutchie> it means my night shift is over and i can go to sleep :D
[08:15] <dutchie> well, in 45 minutes
[08:16] <cgriff> Heh well I haven't slept yet and don't really intend to until tonight
[08:16] <TheOpenSourcerer> My brother-in-law built this 3rd scale model plane to test a new cheap eco-friendly plane that should be on sale next year. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfVDMGuiOlo Looks really cool.
[08:17] <TheOpenSourcerer> http://web.me.com/tony.bishop/e-Go/welcome.html
[08:18] <cgriff> Wow that's pretty cool, I've never seen a rear-propeller aeroplane before
[08:21] <TheOpenSourcerer> Apparently it will do ~100mph @ 70MPG!
[08:22] <daubers> Morning
[08:23] <cgriff> Mornin'
[08:24]  * daubers impliments YaDB in django
[08:26] <TheOpenSourcerer> Oh dear. Shame: http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/tech-industry/3326202/seagate-completes-acquisition-of-samsungs-hdd-business
[08:27] <christel> ooh nifty (plane)
[08:30] <daubers> TheOpenSourcerer: WD have almost completed buying hitachi now too :(
[08:30] <TheOpenSourcerer> Yeah - only two manf. left.
[08:31] <TheOpenSourcerer> Samsung drives have been excellent - almost all of ours are spinpoints.
[08:35] <TheOpenSourcerer> Cool - Top 5 gifts for Open Sourcerers: http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/246503/five_lastminute_gifts_for_open_source_fans.html
[08:40] <daubers> We use loads of samsung and probably a similar amount of hitachi
[08:40] <daubers> Have used some WD 2.5" drives which weren't too bad
[08:42] <czajkowski> aloha
[08:44] <daubers> o/
[08:51] <christel> morning lauraloo
[08:54] <MooDoo> hello all
[08:58] <czajkowski> hello lovely christel
[08:59] <christel> how are you pretty lady? :)
[08:59] <MooDoo> +1 christel :D
[09:00] <czajkowski> christel: ntb, packing up last bits and working on some stuff here flight tomorrow :)
[09:00]  * christel tickles MooDoo 
[09:01] <christel> aah yes! off to ireland for christmas noms and festive fun? :)
[09:01]  * MooDoo chuckles and tickles christel back
[09:01] <czajkowski> christel: yup
[09:02]  * MooDoo tickles czajkowski and hopes he gets away with it :D
[09:02] <czajkowski> oi
[09:02] <MooDoo> :)
[09:02] <MooDoo> love you
[09:03] <christel> she is a bit loveable!
[09:03] <MooDoo> christel: i know
[09:04] <czajkowski> nutters
[09:06]  * MooDoo hugs czajkowski 
[09:15] <bigcalm> Good morning lovelies :)
[09:17] <MooDoo> morning bigcalm
[09:24] <popey> morning
[09:25] <bigcalm> Howdy
[09:44] <daubers> ah django, you do make me laugh sometimes
[09:45] <daubers> There is no abstraction for a "password" field, but there is for an IP address field
[09:49] <ging> can't let anyone know your ip! they can steal your internets with it
[09:52] <daubers> Also.... I have a job opening coming up. So if anyone here who knows a bit about networking and a bit about python and  a lot about troubleshooting wants a job where they can design the entire process/system for their role, let me know :)
[09:54] <bigcalm> Oh look, VLC has a santa hat on it
[10:05] <AlanBell> daubers: feel free to mail the list with that
[10:06] <MooDoo> daubers: sounds good.
[10:07] <Twinkletoes> I'm trying to use pam auth, but constantly getting TCP_DENIED/407 errors.  I followed the instructions from here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/squid-with-pam-authentication-363470/#post4291686, with the addition of 'http_access allow auth_users'.  Can anyone help me troubleshoot please?
[10:08] <Twinkletoes> Sorry... ^^^ (squid)
[10:13] <daubers> AlanBell: Will do :)
[10:14] <jutnux> Twinkletoes: sudo apt-get wgetpaste
[10:14] <jutnux> sudo wgetpaste /etc/squid/squid.conf
[10:15] <jutnux> Give the link here.
[10:17] <livingdaylite> anyone use stresslinux?
[10:17] <livingdaylite> hi jutnux
[10:17] <jutnux> \o
[10:17] <jutnux> Never heard of it.
[10:17] <livingdaylite> jutnux: petting my external hd didn't revive it :(
[10:18] <livingdaylite> guys looking for a cheap but good base unit
[10:19] <livingdaylite> looks like my pc is a goner... I installed a fresh xubuntu but the problems persist. After some time of use the system simply freezes up
[10:19] <ali1234> don't call it a base unit
[10:19] <ali1234> also don't call it a "hard drive"
[10:19] <occupy64k> soft drive?
[10:20] <livingdaylite> I don't know whether it is hd , motherboard or what. The hd is a fairly new replacement, but I suspect there may be something with the box, but I don't know how to diagnose and narrow the problem down. I did a memtest and that showed no errors
[10:21] <livingdaylite> hard to imagine that the hd is at fault [again/already]
[10:22] <ali1234> i'm just saying
[10:22] <ali1234> dont go in a computer shop and ask for a "base unit"
[10:22] <ali1234> they will think you are a noob and try to rip you off
[10:24] <livingdaylite> I'm considering a Lenovo H420
[10:25] <livingdaylite> looking on ebay, I'm surprised how pricey these base units are [still]
[10:29] <gordonjcp> livingdaylite: checked the fans?
[10:29] <ali1234> what is your budget?
[10:31] <livingdaylite> ali1234: £200-£300 £350 tops
[10:32] <popey> livingdaylite: http://www.ebuyer.com/251310-zoostorm-desktop-7873-1036 200 quid
[10:33] <Twinkletoes> jutnux: Can't find that in repos
[10:33] <jutnux> Erm
[10:33] <Twinkletoes> jutnux: (wgetpaste)
[10:33] <popey> use pastebinit
[10:33] <popey> !info pastebinit
[10:34] <jutnux> Sorry, wgetpaste is in arch.
[10:34] <Twinkletoes> jutnux: So do you want details of my squid config?
[10:35] <jutnux> Yeah.
[10:35] <Twinkletoes> jutnux: I'll detail the differences from a default install...
[10:35] <livingdaylite> gordonjcp: seem to... you say fans? I have a big fan sitting on top of cpu and that is working
[10:36] <livingdaylite> in bios I noticed that I have in health status fan options set to disabled and when I enabled them I got a big beep sound, so I turned them off.
[10:37] <daubers> \o/ email away
[10:38] <Myrtti> does anyone want to buy a Samsung PL-120 camera off my hands?
[10:39] <Myrtti> still in packaging and shrinkwrap and all...
[10:41] <Twinkletoes> jutnux: http://pastebin.com/NfzZtp3h
[10:42] <jutnux> Twinkletoes, acl password proxy_auth REQUIRED?
[10:42] <Twinkletoes> jutnux: It means that it will match any authenticated user
[10:43] <jutnux> Yes is it in there?
[10:43] <jutnux> Course it is I'm blind
[10:43] <jutnux> Are you running a firewall?
[10:44] <Twinkletoes> jutnux: No firewall.  I get challenged by the squid, but it seems to fail, with the error in the log
[10:44] <Twinkletoes> jutnux: TCP_DENIED/407 2851 GET http://....
[10:44] <jutnux> Have you opened the ports?
[10:45] <jutnux> That's if you're trying to access remotely
[10:45] <Twinkletoes> jutnux: It's working because squid challenges my browser
[10:45] <jutnux> Ah
[10:45] <jutnux> I have no idea then, sorreh.
[10:45] <Twinkletoes> jutnux: Thanks for looking over it ; )_
[10:51] <Twinkletoes> jutnux: My feeling was that pam wasn't returning the right code
[10:51] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[10:53] <MooDoo> morning
[10:54] <brobostigon> morning MooDoo
[10:59] <jutnux> \o brobostigon
[11:04] <brobostigon> o/ jutnux
[11:05] <livingdaylite> popey: thanks. Looks like a good unit on the whole. Maybe one can't expect more for £200.  Doesn't specify motherboard or power unit... no hdmi either means I'd want to get a graphics card. but no bad reviews.
[11:28] <gordonjcp> livingdaylite: the beeping suggests that one or more of your fans is not healthy
[11:28] <gordonjcp> livingdaylite: this could be the cause of your problems
[11:38] <BigRedS> Is there a firefox add-on that'll let me run regexes against webpages to edit teh html before display?
[11:38] <BigRedS> or, more ideally, shove webpages through an external script before display
[11:39] <AlanBell> greasemonkey
[11:39] <BigRedS> oh yeah
[11:39] <BigRedS> that'd do it
[11:39] <BigRedS> I might even learn a bit of javascript in the process
[11:40] <jutnux> s/Bieber/Douche
[11:43] <livingdaylite> gordonjcp: the fans are working so, I don't know what's causing teh beeping. I agree though, beeping is not what one wants to hear
[11:45] <monsterwizard> according to a new study
[11:45] <monsterwizard> I'm not longer a person
[11:45] <MooDoo> monsterwizard: you're a number now?
[11:46] <monsterwizard> even worse
[11:46] <monsterwizard> a hex number
[11:55] <monsterwizard> how long would ubuntu take to install under wubi?
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[11:56] <monsterwizard> hahahah
[11:58] <Myrtti> popey: ♥
[11:59] <monsterwizard> lol it fails
[11:59] <popey> hmm?
[11:59] <monsterwizard> It installs the amd version :S
[11:59] <monsterwizard> I have an i5
[12:00] <Myrtti> popey: happy $seasonal_event :-)
[12:00] <popey> :D
[12:01] <zleap> livingdaylite, not sure if this helps,  my verbatim external hdd beeps if is is plugged into my old pc and that is turned off,
[12:01] <monsterwizard> perl scalar?
[12:07] <directhex> monsterwizard, erm...
[12:07] <directhex> monsterwizard, "amd64" is the name of the instruction set. intel's clone is called em64t, or nowadays "intel 64"
[12:08] <directhex> monsterwizard, amd64 code runs on 64-bit intel chips too, excluding itanium
[12:11] <monsterwizard> :o
[12:11] <monsterwizard> hahahahah
[12:11] <monsterwizard> oops
[12:12] <directhex> just as "i386" code runs on AMD chips too
[12:14] <daubers> nom nom nom nom crisps
[12:16] <monsterwizard> heart aatack :o
[12:27] <popey> hello
[12:32] <bigcalm> Good afternoon
[12:42] <christel> hi popey, bigcalm :)
[12:42]  * bigcalm jumps on christel 
[12:42] <christel> meep!
[12:42]  * MooDoo jumps on bigcalm 
[12:43] <brobostigon> threesome, eeek.
[12:43] <bigcalm> Oh no
[12:43] <MooDoo> steady
[12:43] <bigcalm> I was thinking more about 'pile-on!' from my school days
[12:43] <bigcalm> I was usually at the bottom of said pile
[12:44]  * MooDoo is a bit heavy to go on top of the pil on
[12:44] <MooDoo> pile on
[12:59]  * TheOpenSourcerer jumps on top and flattens the lot of you :-D
[12:59] <christel> <3
[12:59] <daubers> Woooooo! Shelving has arrived
[13:00] <zleap> bigcalm, yeah know how u feel at the bottom of the pile sometimes, I work with kids,  so they still do this to each other.
[13:03] <bigcalm> daubers: you have an exciting life there ;)
[13:04]  * mattt jumps on top of dauber's shelving
[13:04] <mattt> ouchies
[13:05] <ubuntuuk-planet> [oimon] Power monitoring with linux&the low-energy way - http://oimon.wordpress.com/2011/12/20/power-monitoring-with-linux-the-low-energy-way/
[13:08] <daubers> bigcalm: It's warehouse style racking shelving
[13:08] <daubers> Very exciting :) Means I can reclaim some space down there
[13:11] <daubers> also, I can order some zigbees tomorrow \o/
[13:29] <bigcalm> daubers: this sort of thing? http://www.gigant.co.uk/products/view/3022
[13:30] <daubers> bigcalm: Ish, but significantly larger
[13:30] <daubers> bigcalm: Think warehouse type shelving
[13:31] <bigcalm> Proper pallet racks?
[13:31] <bigcalm> You must have a big house
[13:31] <daubers> not my house, it's for work :)
[13:32] <bigcalm> Ah, fair enough :D
[13:32] <bigcalm> I used to work in a pallet wear house. Going up and down 80ft high racks
[13:32] <bigcalm> The thought of such things in a house worried me
[13:39] <jpds> bigcalm: That's a lot of servers.
[13:40] <daubers> bigcalm: They won't quite be 80ft high
[13:40] <daubers> but they are floor to ceiling
[13:41] <bigcalm> jpds: joke.popey.com
[13:42] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20010227
[13:42] <brobostigon> sarcasm.popry.com
[13:42] <brobostigon> sarcasm.popey.com
[13:42] <MartijnVdS> Popery.com?
[13:43] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: my finger hit the wrong button.
[13:43] <MartijnVdS> I thought the English didn't like popery.. at least, around the 17th century
[13:44] <selinuxium> Hi guys... Is there anyway of keeping couchdb in sync across different PCs... It would be useful to have my gwibber history available on my laptop and desktop...
[13:45] <jpds> selinuxium: Ubuntu One?
[13:46] <selinuxium> jpds, possibly... I just don't know the mechanics, and what if I have accidentally left the pc on when I am on the laptop? :
[13:50] <jpds> selinuxium: Maybe oneconf would do it, don't know.
[13:57] <selinuxium> jpds: looks interesting... Thanks i will take a look anyway.
[14:01] <ali1234> razor-qt just made slashdot
[14:01] <ali1234> i didn't know there was a ppa
[14:06] <daubers> god, carphone warehouses phone system is pants
[14:06] <daubers> Offers you an option to check the progress of a repair,  but then just gives you options to ask about a new repair
[14:39] <oimon1> argh my tv aerial snapped off in the high winds the other day...just noticed in time for christmas :(
[14:40] <Seeker`> oimon1: that sucks
[14:40] <oimon1> bigtime
[14:40] <Seeker`> I need to trawl through the listings and set stuff to record
[14:40] <oimon1> never called a aerial repairman before, have no clue what to expect
[14:41] <oimon1> not evn suere if i share it with my neighbour
[14:41] <BigRedS> you probably don't
[14:42] <oimon1> it's a terrace, but that might mean my neighbour has sky instead
[14:42] <oimon1> we share a chimney
[14:43] <BigRedS> yeah, but normally you'd just have one aerial each on the chimney
[14:44] <BigRedS> IME - I'm not an aerial repair guy either
[15:09] <MartijnVdS> BigRedS: You could share aerials. Sat dishes are harder to share (but not impossible)
[15:10] <BigRedS> MartijnVdS: yeah, you *could* but I've never known anyone do that
[15:10] <MartijnVdS> BigRedS: OK so it's not common.. :)
[15:10] <MartijnVdS> or you don't know many people :P
[15:13] <BigRedS> haha
[17:11] <zleap> do the dvd rendering programs render in real time as in a 1hour avi will take 1 hour to render ?
[17:12] <Seeker`> not likely
[17:13] <popey> depends on the power of your computer
[17:13] <jutnux> Probably not
[17:14] <jacobw> dvd rendering?
[17:15] <ging> i remember when it took all night
[17:15] <zleap> ok
[17:15] <zleap> ok i am converting the new voyages episode to dvd forma
[17:15] <zleap> format
[17:59] <tonytiger> Evening!
[17:59] <tonytiger> I hope you're all getting ready to listen in two and a bit hours!
[18:00] <bigcalm> Afternoon tonytiger
[18:00] <tonytiger> hi bigcalm
[18:00] <bigcalm> If only for the panto
[18:00] <bigcalm> And I want to know what the WC has been up to
[18:09] <tonytiger> :)
[19:25] <pwuertz> sphinx
[19:35] <daubers> evening
[19:42] <zleap2> helllo
[20:08] <zleap> where does bonbono dvd authoring software put output files, i can't find the directory it has said what i have just created in
[20:10] <zleap> ok bombono or what ever its called
[20:12] <zleap> ok mytery solved in a hidden folder .cache with in home
[20:31] <smittix> evening all
[20:31] <BigRedS> Good morning!
[20:31] <smittix> Anyone know of a good speedtest site to test a 100meg connection?
[20:32] <MartijnVdS> smittix: wget something from here: ftp://ftp.xs4all.nl/pub/test/
[20:33] <smittix> coolio thanks!
[20:35] <smittix> Hmm, can only get 1mb/s down from there.
[20:57] <brobostigon> cool, roy wood is on hairy bikers, on bbc2. :)
[20:59] <brobostigon> and he still looks like the hippy he was
[21:59] <peejay1977> Hey all :)
[22:44] <AlanBell> I have a bit of a big bootchart to decypher
[22:46] <AlanBell> http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/alanlaptop-oneiric-20111220-1.png < warning, very very very big and crashes my session on oneiric trying to open it
[22:49] <jutnux> AlanBell: I've opened it, have no idea what to do though.
[22:49] <jutnux> Kind of useless I guess haha
[23:01] <AlanBell> ok, seems part of the problem was I never let it idle for bootchart to stop, so it has my impatient startup of firefox in the chart
[23:02] <jutnux> Oh right, okay.
[23:13] <gordonjcp> what's the current favourite for video editing in Linux?
[23:19]  * AlanBell likes openshot
[23:19] <AlanBell> because I am not clever enough to use blender
[23:20]  * Nafallo thought blender was for 3D modelling...
[23:20] <AlanBell> it is, but it also has a video editor in it
[23:20] <Nafallo> o_o
[23:20] <AlanBell> you can have video textures on 3d objects and there is a powerful video editor in there to help with that
[23:21] <gordonjcp> ooo
[23:21] <gordonjcp> didn't know that
[23:21] <gordonjcp> I was using kdenlive, that seems okay
[23:21] <AlanBell> http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Doc:2.4/Manual/Sequencer
[23:26] <gordonjcp> no, openshot isn't really working for me
[23:26] <gordonjcp> there appears to be no way to actually edit video with it
[23:26] <gordonjcp> which seems like a major obstacle
[23:27]  * Laney wibbly wobbly woo
[23:29] <AlanBell> gordonjcp: what do you mean by edit video?
[23:29] <gordonjcp> AlanBell: well, it lets me import a video file, and drop it on the timeline
[23:29] <AlanBell> you can chop up clips and splice them together with transitions
[23:29] <gordonjcp> and... that's about it
[23:30] <Nafallo> gordonjcp: my android came with something for that... :-P
[23:30] <AlanBell> the scisors icon lets you cut up the clip
[23:31] <gordonjcp> doesn't appear to do anything here
[23:31] <gordonjcp> oh okay, that just crashed X to an astounding degree
[23:32] <AlanBell> oh dear :(
[23:32] <gordonjcp> hm, need to power off the machine, it's hung the graphics card
[23:32] <gordonjcp> I really, really hate Intel chipsets
[23:32] <AlanBell> normally you drag clips to the timeline, click the razor tool (which is the scisors) and click the clip where you want to chop it up into bits
[23:33] <AlanBell> then you can drag the smaller clips about, stick them on different timelines, throw them away etc
[23:33] <AlanBell> and you can use transitions to go between timelines, and you can do animated titles which sets up a script of a blender template so it does rendered 3d text and effects that can overlay the videos
[23:35] <AlanBell> night all o/
[23:36] <Nafallo> hrm
[23:36] <Nafallo> who's involved in the podcast these days?
[23:41] <bigcalm> !ping