[01:00] ds [01:01] dds [07:29] morning all [08:02] morning AlanBell and everyone else [08:12] good morning :D [08:14] Wow someone's happy about the morning ;) [08:15] i am happy about the morning [08:15] it means my night shift is over and i can go to sleep :D [08:15] well, in 45 minutes [08:16] Heh well I haven't slept yet and don't really intend to until tonight [08:16] My brother-in-law built this 3rd scale model plane to test a new cheap eco-friendly plane that should be on sale next year. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfVDMGuiOlo Looks really cool. [08:17] http://web.me.com/tony.bishop/e-Go/welcome.html [08:18] Wow that's pretty cool, I've never seen a rear-propeller aeroplane before [08:21] Apparently it will do ~100mph @ 70MPG! [08:22] Morning [08:23] Mornin' [08:24] * daubers impliments YaDB in django [08:26] Oh dear. Shame: http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/tech-industry/3326202/seagate-completes-acquisition-of-samsungs-hdd-business [08:27] ooh nifty (plane) [08:30] TheOpenSourcerer: WD have almost completed buying hitachi now too :( [08:30] Yeah - only two manf. left. [08:31] Samsung drives have been excellent - almost all of ours are spinpoints. [08:35] Cool - Top 5 gifts for Open Sourcerers: http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/246503/five_lastminute_gifts_for_open_source_fans.html [08:40] We use loads of samsung and probably a similar amount of hitachi [08:40] Have used some WD 2.5" drives which weren't too bad [08:42] aloha [08:44] o/ [08:51] morning lauraloo [08:54] hello all [08:58] hello lovely christel [08:59] how are you pretty lady? :) [08:59] +1 christel :D [09:00] christel: ntb, packing up last bits and working on some stuff here flight tomorrow :) [09:00] * christel tickles MooDoo [09:01] aah yes! off to ireland for christmas noms and festive fun? :) [09:01] * MooDoo chuckles and tickles christel back [09:01] christel: yup [09:02] * MooDoo tickles czajkowski and hopes he gets away with it :D [09:02] oi [09:02] :) [09:02] love you [09:03] she is a bit loveable! [09:03] christel: i know [09:04] nutters [09:06] * MooDoo hugs czajkowski [09:15] Good morning lovelies :) [09:17] morning bigcalm [09:24] morning [09:25] Howdy [09:44] ah django, you do make me laugh sometimes [09:45] There is no abstraction for a "password" field, but there is for an IP address field [09:49] can't let anyone know your ip! they can steal your internets with it [09:52] Also.... I have a job opening coming up. So if anyone here who knows a bit about networking and a bit about python and a lot about troubleshooting wants a job where they can design the entire process/system for their role, let me know :) [09:54] Oh look, VLC has a santa hat on it [10:05] daubers: feel free to mail the list with that [10:06] daubers: sounds good. [10:07] I'm trying to use pam auth, but constantly getting TCP_DENIED/407 errors. I followed the instructions from here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/squid-with-pam-authentication-363470/#post4291686, with the addition of 'http_access allow auth_users'. Can anyone help me troubleshoot please? [10:08] Sorry... ^^^ (squid) [10:13] AlanBell: Will do :) [10:14] Twinkletoes: sudo apt-get wgetpaste [10:14] sudo wgetpaste /etc/squid/squid.conf [10:15] Give the link here. [10:17] anyone use stresslinux? [10:17] hi jutnux [10:17] \o [10:17] Never heard of it. [10:17] jutnux: petting my external hd didn't revive it :( [10:18] guys looking for a cheap but good base unit [10:19] looks like my pc is a goner... I installed a fresh xubuntu but the problems persist. After some time of use the system simply freezes up [10:19] don't call it a base unit [10:19] also don't call it a "hard drive" [10:19] soft drive? [10:20] I don't know whether it is hd , motherboard or what. The hd is a fairly new replacement, but I suspect there may be something with the box, but I don't know how to diagnose and narrow the problem down. I did a memtest and that showed no errors [10:21] hard to imagine that the hd is at fault [again/already] [10:22] i'm just saying [10:22] dont go in a computer shop and ask for a "base unit" [10:22] they will think you are a noob and try to rip you off [10:24] I'm considering a Lenovo H420 [10:25] looking on ebay, I'm surprised how pricey these base units are [still] [10:29] livingdaylite: checked the fans? [10:29] what is your budget? [10:31] ali1234: £200-£300 £350 tops [10:32] livingdaylite: http://www.ebuyer.com/251310-zoostorm-desktop-7873-1036 200 quid [10:33] jutnux: Can't find that in repos [10:33] Erm [10:33] jutnux: (wgetpaste) [10:33] use pastebinit [10:33] !info pastebinit [10:34] pastebinit (source: pastebinit): command-line pastebin client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2-2 (natty), package size 30 kB, installed size 480 kB [10:34] Sorry, wgetpaste is in arch. [10:34] jutnux: So do you want details of my squid config? [10:35] Yeah. [10:35] jutnux: I'll detail the differences from a default install... [10:35] gordonjcp: seem to... you say fans? I have a big fan sitting on top of cpu and that is working [10:36] in bios I noticed that I have in health status fan options set to disabled and when I enabled them I got a big beep sound, so I turned them off. [10:37] \o/ email away [10:38] does anyone want to buy a Samsung PL-120 camera off my hands? [10:39] still in packaging and shrinkwrap and all... [10:41] jutnux: http://pastebin.com/NfzZtp3h [10:42] Twinkletoes, acl password proxy_auth REQUIRED? [10:42] jutnux: It means that it will match any authenticated user [10:43] Yes is it in there? [10:43] Course it is I'm blind [10:43] Are you running a firewall? [10:44] jutnux: No firewall. I get challenged by the squid, but it seems to fail, with the error in the log [10:44] jutnux: TCP_DENIED/407 2851 GET http://.... [10:44] Have you opened the ports? [10:45] That's if you're trying to access remotely [10:45] jutnux: It's working because squid challenges my browser [10:45] Ah [10:45] I have no idea then, sorreh. [10:45] jutnux: Thanks for looking over it ; )_ [10:51] jutnux: My feeling was that pam wasn't returning the right code [10:51] good morning everyone. [10:53] morning [10:54] morning MooDoo [10:59] \o brobostigon [11:04] o/ jutnux [11:05] popey: thanks. Looks like a good unit on the whole. Maybe one can't expect more for £200. Doesn't specify motherboard or power unit... no hdmi either means I'd want to get a graphics card. but no bad reviews. [11:28] livingdaylite: the beeping suggests that one or more of your fans is not healthy [11:28] livingdaylite: this could be the cause of your problems [11:38] Is there a firefox add-on that'll let me run regexes against webpages to edit teh html before display? [11:38] or, more ideally, shove webpages through an external script before display [11:39] greasemonkey [11:39] oh yeah [11:39] that'd do it [11:39] I might even learn a bit of javascript in the process [11:40] s/Bieber/Douche [11:43] gordonjcp: the fans are working so, I don't know what's causing teh beeping. I agree though, beeping is not what one wants to hear [11:45] according to a new study [11:45] I'm not longer a person [11:45] monsterwizard: you're a number now? [11:46] even worse [11:46] a hex number [11:55] how long would ubuntu take to install under wubi? [11:55] <-------------------> [11:56] hahahah [11:58] popey: ♥ [11:59] lol it fails [11:59] hmm? [11:59] It installs the amd version :S [11:59] I have an i5 [12:00] popey: happy $seasonal_event :-) [12:00] :D [12:01] livingdaylite, not sure if this helps, my verbatim external hdd beeps if is is plugged into my old pc and that is turned off, [12:01] perl scalar? [12:07] monsterwizard, erm... [12:07] monsterwizard, "amd64" is the name of the instruction set. intel's clone is called em64t, or nowadays "intel 64" [12:08] monsterwizard, amd64 code runs on 64-bit intel chips too, excluding itanium [12:11] :o [12:11] hahahahah [12:11] oops [12:12] just as "i386" code runs on AMD chips too [12:14] nom nom nom nom crisps [12:16] heart aatack :o [12:27] hello [12:32] Good afternoon [12:42] hi popey, bigcalm :) [12:42] * bigcalm jumps on christel [12:42] meep! [12:42] * MooDoo jumps on bigcalm [12:43] threesome, eeek. [12:43] Oh no [12:43] steady [12:43] I was thinking more about 'pile-on!' from my school days [12:43] I was usually at the bottom of said pile [12:44] * MooDoo is a bit heavy to go on top of the pil on [12:44] pile on [12:59] * TheOpenSourcerer jumps on top and flattens the lot of you :-D [12:59] <3 [12:59] Woooooo! Shelving has arrived [13:00] bigcalm, yeah know how u feel at the bottom of the pile sometimes, I work with kids, so they still do this to each other. [13:03] daubers: you have an exciting life there ;) [13:04] * mattt jumps on top of dauber's shelving [13:04] ouchies [13:05] [oimon] Power monitoring with linux&the low-energy way - http://oimon.wordpress.com/2011/12/20/power-monitoring-with-linux-the-low-energy-way/ [13:08] bigcalm: It's warehouse style racking shelving [13:08] Very exciting :) Means I can reclaim some space down there [13:11] also, I can order some zigbees tomorrow \o/ === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [13:29] daubers: this sort of thing? http://www.gigant.co.uk/products/view/3022 [13:30] bigcalm: Ish, but significantly larger [13:30] bigcalm: Think warehouse type shelving [13:31] Proper pallet racks? [13:31] You must have a big house [13:31] not my house, it's for work :) [13:32] Ah, fair enough :D [13:32] I used to work in a pallet wear house. Going up and down 80ft high racks [13:32] The thought of such things in a house worried me [13:39] bigcalm: That's a lot of servers. [13:40] bigcalm: They won't quite be 80ft high [13:40] but they are floor to ceiling [13:41] jpds: joke.popey.com [13:42] bigcalm: http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20010227 [13:42] sarcasm.popry.com [13:42] sarcasm.popey.com [13:42] Popery.com? [13:43] MartijnVdS: my finger hit the wrong button. [13:43] I thought the English didn't like popery.. at least, around the 17th century [13:44] Hi guys... Is there anyway of keeping couchdb in sync across different PCs... It would be useful to have my gwibber history available on my laptop and desktop... [13:45] selinuxium: Ubuntu One? [13:46] jpds, possibly... I just don't know the mechanics, and what if I have accidentally left the pc on when I am on the laptop? : === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [13:50] selinuxium: Maybe oneconf would do it, don't know. [13:57] jpds: looks interesting... Thanks i will take a look anyway. [14:01] razor-qt just made slashdot [14:01] i didn't know there was a ppa [14:06] god, carphone warehouses phone system is pants [14:06] Offers you an option to check the progress of a repair, but then just gives you options to ask about a new repair === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [14:39] argh my tv aerial snapped off in the high winds the other day...just noticed in time for christmas :( [14:40] oimon1: that sucks [14:40] bigtime [14:40] I need to trawl through the listings and set stuff to record [14:40] never called a aerial repairman before, have no clue what to expect [14:41] not evn suere if i share it with my neighbour [14:41] you probably don't [14:42] it's a terrace, but that might mean my neighbour has sky instead [14:42] we share a chimney [14:43] yeah, but normally you'd just have one aerial each on the chimney [14:44] IME - I'm not an aerial repair guy either [15:09] BigRedS: You could share aerials. Sat dishes are harder to share (but not impossible) [15:10] MartijnVdS: yeah, you *could* but I've never known anyone do that [15:10] BigRedS: OK so it's not common.. :) [15:10] or you don't know many people :P [15:13] haha === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away === directhe` is now known as directhex === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte === cking_ is now known as cking [17:11] do the dvd rendering programs render in real time as in a 1hour avi will take 1 hour to render ? [17:12] not likely [17:13] depends on the power of your computer [17:13] Probably not [17:14] dvd rendering? [17:15] i remember when it took all night [17:15] ok [17:15] ok i am converting the new voyages episode to dvd forma [17:15] format === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [17:59] Evening! [17:59] I hope you're all getting ready to listen in two and a bit hours! [18:00] Afternoon tonytiger [18:00] hi bigcalm [18:00] If only for the panto [18:00] And I want to know what the WC has been up to [18:09] :) [19:25] sphinx [19:35] evening [19:42] helllo === matthewgall is now known as iCame [20:08] where does bonbono dvd authoring software put output files, i can't find the directory it has said what i have just created in [20:10] ok bombono or what ever its called [20:12] ok mytery solved in a hidden folder .cache with in home [20:31] evening all [20:31] Good morning! [20:31] Anyone know of a good speedtest site to test a 100meg connection? [20:32] smittix: wget something from here: ftp://ftp.xs4all.nl/pub/test/ [20:33] coolio thanks! [20:35] Hmm, can only get 1mb/s down from there. [20:57] cool, roy wood is on hairy bikers, on bbc2. :) [20:59] and he still looks like the hippy he was === jutnux is now known as iSaw === iSaw is now known as jutnux [21:59] Hey all :) [22:44] I have a bit of a big bootchart to decypher [22:46] http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/alanlaptop-oneiric-20111220-1.png < warning, very very very big and crashes my session on oneiric trying to open it [22:49] AlanBell: I've opened it, have no idea what to do though. [22:49] Kind of useless I guess haha [23:01] ok, seems part of the problem was I never let it idle for bootchart to stop, so it has my impatient startup of firefox in the chart [23:02] Oh right, okay. [23:13] what's the current favourite for video editing in Linux? [23:19] * AlanBell likes openshot [23:19] because I am not clever enough to use blender [23:20] * Nafallo thought blender was for 3D modelling... [23:20] it is, but it also has a video editor in it [23:20] o_o [23:20] you can have video textures on 3d objects and there is a powerful video editor in there to help with that [23:21] ooo [23:21] didn't know that [23:21] I was using kdenlive, that seems okay [23:21] http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Doc:2.4/Manual/Sequencer [23:26] no, openshot isn't really working for me === cgriff is now known as Guest72662 [23:26] there appears to be no way to actually edit video with it [23:26] which seems like a major obstacle [23:27] * Laney wibbly wobbly woo [23:29] gordonjcp: what do you mean by edit video? [23:29] AlanBell: well, it lets me import a video file, and drop it on the timeline [23:29] you can chop up clips and splice them together with transitions [23:29] and... that's about it [23:30] gordonjcp: my android came with something for that... :-P [23:30] the scisors icon lets you cut up the clip [23:31] doesn't appear to do anything here [23:31] oh okay, that just crashed X to an astounding degree [23:32] oh dear :( [23:32] hm, need to power off the machine, it's hung the graphics card [23:32] I really, really hate Intel chipsets [23:32] normally you drag clips to the timeline, click the razor tool (which is the scisors) and click the clip where you want to chop it up into bits [23:33] then you can drag the smaller clips about, stick them on different timelines, throw them away etc [23:33] and you can use transitions to go between timelines, and you can do animated titles which sets up a script of a blender template so it does rendered 3d text and effects that can overlay the videos [23:35] night all o/ [23:36] hrm [23:36] who's involved in the podcast these days? [23:41] !ping [23:41] another contentless ping... sigh...