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| mok0 | Hi | 11:56 |
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| mok0 | In Debian, the package libglw-mesa comes from source package mesa_7.11.2-1, but in Ubuntu it comes from source package mesa-glw. What is the reason for this? | 11:56 |
| mok0 | ... mesa-glw is only at version 7.4 | 11:57 |
| mok0 | and seems to be unmaintained | 11:57 |
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| tjaalton | mok0: because lesstif is in universe, and is not going in main | 12:33 |
| mok0 | tjaalton: uhm... what does lesstif have to do with it? | 12:34 |
| tjaalton | mok0: it build-depends on lesstif2-dev | 12:34 |
| mok0 | tjaalton: so I guess mesa-glw just needs to be updated? | 12:35 |
| jcristau | or killed | 12:35 |
| tjaalton | ah, that's why there is mesa-glw in the first place | 12:35 |
| mok0 | It's remained at 7.4 for as long as rmadison knows about | 12:35 |
| mok0 | jcristau: nooooo | 12:35 |
| tjaalton | because the main mesa doesn't build libglw1 for that reason | 12:35 |
| jcristau | seriously, motif... | 12:35 |
| mok0 | tjaalton: yes | 12:35 |
| mok0 | tjaalton: lots of older apps use it... perhaps not apps in the archives, but users' apps | 12:36 |
| tjaalton | example? | 12:36 |
| mok0 | ribbons | 12:36 |
| jcristau | if they have their own apps they can build their own glw... | 12:37 |
| tjaalton | google doesn't show up any useful links | 12:37 |
| mok0 | tjaalton: http://www.cbse.uab.edu/ribbons/ | 12:37 |
| mok0 | had to find the link | 12:37 |
| tjaalton | Oct 1 2006: New day, retiring from UAB, but will still maintain ribbons . | 12:37 |
| tjaalton | so, abandoned 5y ago | 12:37 |
| mok0 | tjaalton: it's still useful | 12:38 |
| jcristau | mok0: also what's wrong with 7.4 glw? it's not like anybody touched it since then | 12:38 |
| mok0 | jcristau: there is a bug in it, symbol missing from library | 12:39 |
| tjaalton | hey, there are binaries for tru64, i should try those out | 12:39 |
| tjaalton | :) | 12:39 |
| mok0 | jcristau: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=624156 | 12:39 |
| ubot4 | Debian bug 624156 in libglw1-mesa-dev "libGLw.so missing glwMDrawingAreaWidgetClass" [Important,Fixed] | 12:39 |
| jcristau | ah yeah, remember that. | 12:39 |
| mok0 | Well, I have issues with the policy of removing libraries from the distro | 12:40 |
| jcristau | *shrug* | 12:40 |
| mok0 | People have their own (purchased, etc) software that the want to keep using | 12:41 |
| tjaalton | mok0: so.. looks like you did the previous uploads, and you're complaining here? | 12:41 |
| mok0 | You can't expect my memory to span over more than a few months :-) | 12:42 |
| tjaalton | just checking the changelog was enough | 12:42 |
| mok0 | tjaalton: Actually, I'm was just wondering why the libglw1-mesa package wasn't being built from mesa | 12:43 |
| mok0 | ... perhaps the lesstif dependency could be gotten rid of | 12:43 |
| tjaalton | mok0: and i told you, it's also pointed out on the mesa changelog | 12:43 |
| mok0 | tjaalton: sorry | 12:43 |
| mok0 | tjaalton: I thought a bit of discussion wrt how to fix this was required | 12:44 |
| mok0 | tjaalton: community, you know | 12:44 |
| tjaalton | mok0: it just needs an update, preferably by someone who cares enough to do the work | 12:46 |
| mok0 | tjaalton: I'll look into it | 12:46 |
| mok0 | tjaalton: although it would be much nice to build the library from mesa itself | 12:47 |
| mok0 | tjaalton: don't offhand understand why the lesstiff dependency is required by a this library | 12:48 |
| tjaalton | mok0: because it doesn't build otherwise? | 12:50 |
| mok0 | tjaalton: could be a test program or something that could be omitted, is what I am thinking | 12:50 |
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| FernandoMiguel | evening | 18:52 |
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