=== dzan|away is now known as dzan [11:56] Hi [11:56] In Debian, the package libglw-mesa comes from source package mesa_7.11.2-1, but in Ubuntu it comes from source package mesa-glw. What is the reason for this? [11:57] ... mesa-glw is only at version 7.4 [11:57] and seems to be unmaintained === dzan is now known as dzan|away [12:33] mok0: because lesstif is in universe, and is not going in main [12:34] tjaalton: uhm... what does lesstif have to do with it? [12:34] mok0: it build-depends on lesstif2-dev [12:35] tjaalton: so I guess mesa-glw just needs to be updated? [12:35] or killed [12:35] ah, that's why there is mesa-glw in the first place [12:35] It's remained at 7.4 for as long as rmadison knows about [12:35] jcristau: nooooo [12:35] because the main mesa doesn't build libglw1 for that reason [12:35] seriously, motif... [12:35] tjaalton: yes [12:36] tjaalton: lots of older apps use it... perhaps not apps in the archives, but users' apps [12:36] example? [12:36] ribbons [12:37] if they have their own apps they can build their own glw... [12:37] google doesn't show up any useful links [12:37] tjaalton: http://www.cbse.uab.edu/ribbons/ [12:37] had to find the link [12:37] Oct 1 2006: New day, retiring from UAB, but will still maintain ribbons . [12:37] so, abandoned 5y ago [12:38] tjaalton: it's still useful [12:38] mok0: also what's wrong with 7.4 glw? it's not like anybody touched it since then [12:39] jcristau: there is a bug in it, symbol missing from library [12:39] hey, there are binaries for tru64, i should try those out [12:39] :) [12:39] jcristau: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=624156 [12:39] Debian bug 624156 in libglw1-mesa-dev "libGLw.so missing glwMDrawingAreaWidgetClass" [Important,Fixed] [12:39] ah yeah, remember that. [12:40] Well, I have issues with the policy of removing libraries from the distro [12:40] *shrug* [12:41] People have their own (purchased, etc) software that the want to keep using [12:41] mok0: so.. looks like you did the previous uploads, and you're complaining here? [12:42] You can't expect my memory to span over more than a few months :-) [12:42] just checking the changelog was enough [12:43] tjaalton: Actually, I'm was just wondering why the libglw1-mesa package wasn't being built from mesa [12:43] ... perhaps the lesstif dependency could be gotten rid of [12:43] mok0: and i told you, it's also pointed out on the mesa changelog [12:43] tjaalton: sorry [12:44] tjaalton: I thought a bit of discussion wrt how to fix this was required [12:44] tjaalton: community, you know [12:46] mok0: it just needs an update, preferably by someone who cares enough to do the work [12:46] tjaalton: I'll look into it [12:47] tjaalton: although it would be much nice to build the library from mesa itself [12:48] tjaalton: don't offhand understand why the lesstiff dependency is required by a this library [12:50] mok0: because it doesn't build otherwise? [12:50] tjaalton: could be a test program or something that could be omitted, is what I am thinking === dzan|away is now known as dzan === dzan is now known as dzan|away === inetpro_ is now known as in === dzan|away is now known as dzan === in is now known as inetpro === dzan is now known as dzan|away [18:52] evening === dzan|away is now known as dzan === dzan is now known as dzan|away