[00:00] <tomodach1> vivian: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=894177&page=14 maybe this can help
[00:00] <vivian> tomodach1: will do that... thanks ;)
[00:00] <tomodach1> np
[00:00] <phenrique> It is possible turns my notebook with ubuntu 11.10 in a wireless router?
[00:00] <paulsomebody> DoctorTruth: This is meta package, it does not install anything itself, just provides dependencies.
[00:00] <almoxarife> fcuk112: on a mac?
[00:00] <paulsomebody> DoctorTruth: Try newest of the listed in there instead.
[00:00] <fcuk112> almoxarife, ah that's the win7 system partition
[00:00] <paulsomebody> DoctorTruth: From Software Center, or Nvidia's repository for Ubuntu.
[00:01] <paulsomebody> allballs: What is the model of your video card, again?
[00:01] <fcuk112> almoxarife, sda1-3 are win7, sda4-6 are ubuntu
[00:02] <allballs> paulsomebody: go figure, lspci doesn't even show it. I had to revert to newegg invoice "intel hd graphics 2000/3000" -- i am NOT familiar.
[00:03] <allballs> lspci reports, "VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller"
[00:03] <allballs> Yeah. That's totally helpful, I know.
[00:03] <DoctorTruth> paulsomebody, we went thruogh this already, I installed nvidia-glx-185, remember ?
[00:04] <paulsomebody> DoctorTruth: 185 is the old one, there are newer version available. But frankly, all of them should allow simple effects, like the ones used in Unity.
[00:04] <Tech-1> 270
[00:04] <DoctorTruth> paulsomebody, well nothing is working "hardware drivers" in the system menu shows NOTHING, nvidia-glx-185 (highest number) is installed,
[00:04] <allballs> paulsomebody: some fancy-schmancy sandybridge chip in new box.
[00:04] <DoctorTruth> the .run file is giving me more errors than a mexican spaceship
[00:04] <DoctorTruth> so
[00:04] <DoctorTruth> Ubuntu sucks fuck you
[00:05] <DoctorTruth> sorry
[00:05] <FloodBot1> DoctorTruth: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:05] <almoxarife> fcuk112: when I saw what you are seeing last I went about restoring the bootloader for the win side first, as you are not seeing win as a grub option I would at least suggest the same
[00:05] <Tech-1> lol, mexican spaceship
[00:05] <allballs> DoctorTruth can piss off.
[00:05] <DoctorTruth> dang
[00:05] <allballs> take a Xaxax, bro.
[00:05] <paulsomebody> DoctorTruth: Don't get upset too much, it shortens the life expectancy.
[00:05] <allballs> or, a Xanax.
[00:06] <fcuk112> almoxarife, thanks i will try that
[00:06] <paulsomebody> DoctorTruth: If seriously, try posting on a askubuntu.com or ubuntuforum.org, or asking on a more specific support channel.
[00:06] <paulsomebody> DoctorTruth: I seriously do not know how I can help you any further.
[00:06] <_calum> is there an nmap support channel on irc.ubuntu.com? I don't know how to install an nmap script
[00:07] <almoxarife> fcuk112: or you can go the next step, forget the hard installed win, install ubuntu on the whole drive and run win virtual
[00:07] <paulsomebody> DoctorTruth: This looks like a novelty issue to me — perhaps you are using hardware that is too new and support have not yet been implemented, or updates released, etc.
[00:07] <DoctorTruth> drivers are a pain nowadays it seems with everything
[00:08] <DoctorTruth> well I am going to take this Nvidia gfx card back to the store, and buy a used one from craigslist
[00:08] <allballs> paulsomebody: think I should just re-install, and pray installer picks up on builtin Intel card?
[00:08] <paulsomebody> allballs: Have you tried activating some effects or watching a movie in high resolution?
[00:08] <allballs> nay, it's on fb driver. I won't bother.
[00:09] <paulsomebody> allballs: My point is, Intel produces some very good Open Source video drivers, and chance are, they might even be automatically activated.
[00:09] <stringoO> Hi, I'm having trouble with an upstart conf file - https://gist.github.com/73a0c15bb64028ca6906
[00:09] <paulsomebody> allballs: What do you mean by 'fb'?
[00:09] <hydester> tomodach1: the network-console install is working, although it doesn't look like i can use my preseeds on the disk.  will investigate some more.  thanks!
[00:09] <stringoO> can someone help me? I'm getting this error: start: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.4"...
[00:09] <stringoO> the exec line works by itself
[00:09] <allballs> hmm.
[00:10] <allballs> xorg log spotted the intel chipset, but deferred to the fb driver.
[00:10] <paulsomebody> allballs: Again, what is 'fb'?
[00:11] <SunTsu> paulsomebody: FrameBuffer
[00:11] <allballs> framebuffer, I would imagine.
[00:11] <paulsomebody> allballs: SunTsu: Awww.
[00:12] <allballs> bwuh?
[00:12] <almoxarife> allballs: do you have the drivers for what you are wanting to run?
[00:13] <Coronade> Hey guys, any idea why my IRC client won't give me the full list of people in the server?
[00:13] <almoxarife> Coronade: no
[00:13] <allballs> odd. intel driver seems to have loaded (xorg.log) -- modelines are for shite, though.
[00:13] <seidos> Coronade: what irc client?
[00:13] <Coronade> my own buggy one
[00:14] <seidos> Coronade: are you doing /names ?
[00:14] <seidos> Coronade: you mean the server, or the channel?
[00:14] <allballs> ok, so, basic question: what's command to get ubuntu to reconfigure "everything about X"?
[00:14] <almoxarife> allballs: what drivers? what graphics?
[00:14] <LtHummus> is there any way to prevent the update manager from popping up?  my Ubuntu (10.04) box is being used as an HTPC and I don't want to see the update manager...ever.  I prefer to manage updates on the command line via ssh from my laptop
[00:14] <allballs> I figured dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg would throw me into joyland, but that wasn't so.\
[00:14] <Coronade> I'm doing... "NAMES " + channel + "\r\n"
[00:15] <allballs> almoxarife: switching from nvidia to builtin intel
[00:15] <Coronade> oh well
[00:16] <Coronade> =(
[00:16] <Coronade> brb, debugging
[00:16] <LjL> improveupon: sorry, i was away. the disk doesn't look in a very good state to me, perhaps you can squeeze some more life out of it, but i wouldn't keep important data on it...
[00:17] <Tech-1> allballs:  did you sudo service gdm stop  first ?
[00:18] <Onisutra> SO.... ummm.... Can anyone tell me the files I need to edit to manipulate my touch pad, since I am having errors and the touch pad is moving by itself, I need some kind of help.
[00:19] <urlin2u> Onisutra, you might try #hardware as well.
[00:21] <urlin2u> Onisutra, it is cond=sidred rude at least to me to just pm me.
[00:22] <almoxarife> Onisutra: model of machine and what version of ubuntu?
[00:23] <kaushal> Hi
[00:24] <urlin2u> Onisutra, no biggie on the PM just always ask a user first.
[00:24] <almoxarife> Onisutra: no PM, here
[00:26] <gbear14275> #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:29] <improveupon> LjL: thank you
[00:33] <Onisutra> whelp, Sabayon. Here I come!
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[00:33] <FloodBot1> MolSno: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:41] <Nick-MAD> hi all
[00:42] <majortws_> 'lo
[00:42] <Nick-MAD> does any body have problems with <lxpanel> in <lxde ubuntu> after <suspend >
[00:42] <Nick-MAD> ?
[00:43] <Nick-MAD> i have lubunut 11.10 (lxde)
[00:44] <Nick-MAD> after suspend some of applications do not stay in RAM
[00:44] <Nick-MAD> can some body help me? please
[00:45] <mrdeb> ok nick
[00:45] <jakupl> Maybe, If you ask a question.
[00:45] <mrdeb> pls say your [roblem
[00:45] <mrdeb> problem
[00:46] <Nick-MAD> LUBUNTU 11.10, after Suspend
[00:46] <Nick-MAD> 5 min will be back , sorry mrdeb
[00:48] <mrdeb> ok good luck
[00:53] <alpha-aquilae> Hi everyone. When I try to remove a file (which name contains some unconsistant characters-ie replaced by "?" inside a square), I get the error message: "this file or forlder /XX/XXX/XX does not exist". how can remove it?
[00:53] <d1g1ta1> which distro of 10.10 is the lightest:  ubuntu, kubuntu,
[00:54] <Nick-MAD> 11.10
[00:54] <d1g1ta1>  xubuntu lubuntu or mythbuntu
[00:54] <d1g1ta1> ?
[00:54] <Nick-MAD> lubuntu
[00:54] <Odaym> I can't properly mount my USB pen drive, it shows up in the Disk Utility as /dev/sdd, so I do "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdd /media/USB" and I get wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock, etc...
[00:54] <d1g1ta1> what is lubuntu and how low resources can I go?
[00:55] <sb_> aminizi sikerim
[00:55] <d1g1ta1> Nick-MAD: and, what do I give up to get Lubuntu?
[00:55] <sb_> gotunuze ubuntu yaslarim
[00:55] <genii-around> !tr | sb_
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[00:59] <Nick-MAD> does any body have lubunut 11.10 64, installed on laptop?
[00:59] <Nick-MAD> does any body have lubunut 11.10 64, installed on laptop with sandy bridge?
[00:59] <urlin2u> !ask | Nick-MAD
[01:00] <battle_warrior> hi, ive managed to somehow block my server from allowing any connections from either local or outside i have mysql  and webmin on it using ubuntu 10.4
[01:00] <battle_warrior> how can i fix where i can at least allow local conection to my server
[01:01] <jakupl> battle_warrior: call the server hosters, or find a monitor and keyboard, if the server is in your closet.
[01:01] <battle_warrior> the server is right next to me
[01:02] <battle_warrior> i have both monitor and keyboard hooked up
[01:02] <jakupl> battle_warrior: oh.. lol. I thought you couldn't ssh into it
[01:02] <battle_warrior> i cant ssh to it.. i have a monitor and keyboard hooked up to it
[01:02] <battle_warrior> where i can access it directly only from the server
[01:03] <battle_warrior> i wana connect to it using filezilla so i can extract some old backup files
[01:04] <giulia> hello, is there any solution to download a f4f serial of video and read them on Ubuntu ?
[01:04] <NoTruth> battle_warrior: I think I know what you need...maybe, possibly. I've had issues using filezilla on a Windows machine connecting to an Ubuntu server, but from an Ubuntu desktop it worked perfectly. Are you trying to FTP in from a Windows machine?
[01:05] <Monotoko> anyone in here any good with umasks and can tell me how on earth to get folder permissions to be 775 and files to be 664?
[01:05] <battle_warrior> yeah
[01:05] <Monotoko> battle_warrior, was that a yeah to me? :)
[01:06] <d1g1ta1> Nick-MAD: You know, to get something lightweight you usually have to give some things up, such as Gnome/KDE, Open Office, etc.
[01:06] <battle_warrior> Notruth yes im trying to do that.. but any outside connections to the server either local OR outside will not connect to it
[01:06] <battle_warrior> Monotoko no sorry taht was to NoTruth
[01:06] <NoTruth> Really? Can you ping the server?
[01:07] <battle_warrior> yes i can ping it
[01:08] <battle_warrior> i somehow screwed up the allowed connections, i was messing around with it one time to see if i could get a outside viewer to mess with mysql
[01:08] <NoTruth> Hmmm....do you have any immediate Ubuntu (or any linux machines really...) available right now? Desktop-wise, I mean?
[01:08] <battle_warrior> i have it on my laptop atm, but i would have to restart it
[01:08] <battle_warrior> dual partition :D
[01:08] <dagerik> battle_warrior: Always have a second computer with access to internet.
[01:08] <NoTruth> Lol, me too :)
[01:09] <battle_warrior> but how would that allow me to conect to the server? its basically barricaded like fortnox to the outside world.. local and outside
[01:10] <NoTruth> Well, I've done the same thing you're trying to do, use filezilla on Windows to connect to an Ubuntu server, and it didn't work until I did it with my Ubuntu partition
[01:10] <battle_warrior> linux partition is linuxmint :/
[01:11] <battle_warrior> ill try that, ty il brb
[01:11] <NoTruth> Ubuntu and Windows can't communicate (don't quote me or anything please) because they interpret files differently
[01:11] <NoTruth> Kk, hope it helps!
[01:12] <NoTruth> Anyways, back to the original reason I came on here
[01:12] <NoTruth> I'm trying to do a quick coding exercise, but don't know what to make. Any suggestions? (Language doesn't matter, I'll learn what I need)
[01:13] <Monotoko> anyone in here any good with umasks and can tell me the numbers needed to get folder permissions to be 775 and files to be 664?
[01:14] <urlin2u> NoTruth, you might try ##linux this is ubuntu support
[01:15] <NoTruth> urlin2u: crap, did it again....I've been trying to join a different channel, but my IRC client won't let me. I thought I already had changed. Sorry, my bad....
[01:15] <giulia> hello, is there any mean to download a streaming video which is in format 4f4 and read it on Ubuntu ?
[01:16] <urlin2u> NoTruth, no big deal that channel seems more likely to get you answers try /join ##linux
[01:16] <Monotoko> NoTruth, have you tried "/join" and have you registered?
[01:17] <bbbb> lol http://pastebin.com/3ss3CniN
[01:17] <bbbb> zkriesse: accidently stumbled upon that while paste bin another thing http://pastebin.com/3ss3CniN
[01:17] <bbbb> go figure
[01:18] <battle_warrior> NoTruth:  wow ty...........
[01:18] <battle_warrior> Now how can i get it to allow connection besides linux?
[01:20] <NoTruth> battle_warrior: Ah, good thing I checked back. You'll need to install a shell in your Ubuntu server to allow Windows to interpret it correctly. Hold on a second, I think I know what you need, let me look it up....
[01:20] <battle_warrior> NoTruth:  it allowed me to conect to the server before i borked something
[01:20] <battle_warrior> via windows
[01:21] <NoTruth> Oh, then you may already have the shell, just you mucked up the settings...
[01:21] <Monotoko> Windows can connect to my debian server okay... which FTP server and client are you trying battle_warrior ?
[01:22] <battle_warrior> ftp server is a ubuntu 10.4 i was using for minecraft
[01:22] <battle_warrior> client settins is ssh connection with filezilla
[01:23] <battle_warrior> i messed arround with mysql one time trying to allow someone from wisoncsin to able to see what my mysql was doing
[01:25] <NoTruth> Still though, mysql shouldn't have changed the settings so much that you can't FTP from Windows
[01:25] <battle_warrior> it did though
[01:25] <battle_warrior> i have port 22 opend if you wana try to connect to it yourself
[01:26] <Waraudon> I'm guessing there's no way to get a Canon Faxphone L80 to work with Ubuntu?
[01:27] <NoTruth> battle_warrior: thanks, but no thanks. Not sure how much good I could do poking around in there. (Also, I'd recommend you reconfigure SSH to a different port, just for security sakes)
[01:27] <blackshirt>  Waraudon: i have no play with this Canon, but we know, Canon has a good support for linux
[01:27] <battle_warrior> woudlnt know how
[01:28] <Waraudon> lsusb says Bus 004 Device 002: ID 04a9:2648 Canon, Inc.
[01:28] <NoTruth> Lol, a quick online search should help you with that. And again, you don't need too. It's more of a 'just in case' precaution.
[01:29] <x3o> hi, does anybody use wmii with oneiric? i want to use wmii with all those applets like network-manager-applet and so on. all this comfort from ubuntu
[01:29] <x3o> i replace metacity with wmii for this reason in the past
[01:30] <x3o> i replaced*
[01:32] <NoTruth> battle_warrior: Do you know what daemon you're using for ftp on your Ubuntu Server?
[01:42] <gamingdroid> I need to setup a proxy server to proxy web requests through. Any suggestions for something easy to use and setup?
[01:43] <milamber> !proxy
[01:44] <milamber> gamingdroid: sorry i thought that was something else - i believe most people use squid
[01:45] <gamingdroid> milamber: so squid can be used as a proxy server? It looks very complex to use.
[01:46] <milamber> !squid
[01:47] <mkjackson_mobile> hey folks, I've taken my 32GB usb drive and turned it into an 8GB flash with a persistent ubuntu installation on it... I still want to use it as an install disc as well though. I've got the iso on the first partition of the drive (sdb1, 1) but the grub script doesn't seem to like me, can anyone assist?
[01:52] <siloxid> how do I disable "Hard Disk Problems Detected" dialogs? they pop up every 30 minutes
[01:53] <eriksamchisen> hello
[01:53] <eriksamchisen> I can't get wireless to work on 10.04\
[01:53] <eriksamchisen> I have an HP with a realtek wireless card
[01:55] <BARMAN07> hello everyone
[01:56] <dannel> Good morning
[01:59] <Jonta> PosteRazor not available for 64 bit? http://posterazor.sourceforge.net/
[02:03] <blackshirt> hello
[02:05] <Jonta> blackshirt: Hi.
[02:05] <blackshirt> hi Jonta
[02:06] <d1g1ta1> what's lighter:  Gnome or KDE?
[02:06] <dannel> Gnome IMO
[02:07] <d1g1ta1> dannel: thanks, I prefer Gnome, too.
[02:07] <Coronade> ;)
[02:07] <Coronade> I'm so happy I fixed moar bugs on my IRC client.
[02:07] <Coronade> I'll even provide a *buntu version for you all.
[02:07] <Jonta> d1g1ta1: Test it using top?
[02:07] <blackshirt> d1g1ta1: it depends on how you using them ?
[02:07] <dannel> I tried KDE the other day and was put off by the ugliness and no GTK styling out of the box :-/
[02:08] <Jonta> awesome wm ftw (:
[02:08] <rypervenche> Coronade: What client?
[02:10] <LABcrab|> Hello!  i am really fed up with Ubuntu not connecting to my wireless network!  Please help!
[02:11] <rypervenche> LABcrab|: lspcs | pastebinit
[02:12] <rypervenche> LABcrab|: lspci | pastebinit (my bad)
[02:12] <LABcrab|> It normally works.  i cannot go online to pastebin it.
[02:12] <blackshirt> LABcrab| : lspci -vv | grep Network
[02:14] <LABcrab|> Got the Android here on the network, but not my Ubuntu laptop.
[02:15] <DaemonWitch> everytime i start gnome a get a popup message saying disk-errors detected. i open gnome's disk utility that i am pointed towards by the message and when i clicky my hdd, it says SMART STATUS =  Disk has many bad sectors. Which is propably true cause this machine is old and in not very good shape, still i have managed to have a working dual-boot on it (gentoo and winxp). should i
[02:15] <DaemonWitch>  do anthing about th e msg, scan the hdd with some tool or will this make things worse?
[02:15] <LABcrab|> Tethering my Android also works.
[02:16] <rypervenche> DaemonWitch: Back up your data and get a new hard drive.
[02:16] <luis_> hi
[02:16] <siloxid> what is the best music editor on ubuntu?
[02:17] <LABcrab|> Audacity.
[02:17] <Jonta> siloxid: Depends on your purpouses though.
[02:17] <Jonta> luis_: Hi.
[02:18] <siloxid> Jonta: writing high-quality song tracks from scratch, like music you would hear in a movie
[02:19] <rypervenche> siloxid: LMMS maybe
[02:21] <microm> What happened to JRE in Firefox? It is gone since Dec 15...
[02:22] <darias> hello, somebody helpme config a access point with ubuntu ?
[02:23] <Jonta> !ask darias
[02:23] <Jonta> !ask
[02:23] <milamber> microm: the distributor license expired. and they are going to openjdk
[02:23] <milamber> microm: you can still get it, you just have to go to their page
[02:25] <ActionParsnip> hy guys, If I use bitlbee, do I need to add irc servers as accounts?
[02:25] <microm> milamber: I guess something replaces it auto-magically no?
[02:25] <tekoholic> What happened to batman-adv in (K)Ubuntu?  I cannot find ANY up-to-date info, pkgs, etc...
[02:27] <ActionParsnip> !find batman
[02:27] <ActionParsnip> tekoholic: tried those?
[02:27] <tekoholic> batmand is l3, batman-adv is the newer l2...  Different animals....
[02:28] <ActionParsnip> tekoholic: any ppas?
[02:29] <tekoholic> ActionParsnip: Not that I've been able to find, and I've been hunting for almost a month...
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> !ppa
[02:29] <milamber> microm: unfortunately no
[02:30] <tekoholic> I've got it compiled, along with it's config tool (batctl), but I cannot find any info on starting it up correctly...
[02:30] <tanwei> hello
[02:30] <tanwei> hi
[02:30] <edbian> tanwei, hi
[02:31] <tanwei> edbian   , hehe
[02:31] <edbian> :)
[02:32] <tanwei> 这个是什么聊天软件阿
[02:32] <tanwei> 我还是第一次用呢
[02:32] <edbian> !jp
[02:32] <edbian> guessing that's not chinese :/
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> !cn
[02:32] <tanwei> ye
[02:32] <tanwei> chese boy
[02:33] <tanwei> china
[02:34] <rypervenche> 哈哈
[02:35] <tanwei> 傻笑啥亚
[02:35] <rypervenche> 他的錯
[02:37] <boldfilter> I'm on 11.04 because I like gnome2, can I still update to linux 3.1 kernel?
[02:38] <edbian> boldfilter, You could download the source / compile / and install then you could use 3.1
[02:38] <edbian> boldfilter, This might cause a million low level things to break (probably more and more things will break as you use newer and newer kernels)
[02:38] <edbian> boldfilter, It is possible, it's just a bit of a pain in the butt
[02:39] <ActionParsnip> boldfilter: the kernel is an old precise kernel, you could install it but you would not be supported here as you are not only doing something not advised but also you would be using an unsupported kerenl
[02:39] <ActionParsnip> boldfilter: I suggest you install Oneiric (or wait for precise) and use xfce, its a lot like gnome 2
[02:40] <boldfilter> I'm not enthusiastic
[02:40] <edbian> boldfilter, go for it man!
[02:40] <edbian> It'll be a blast
[02:40] <edbian> :D !
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> boldfilter: personally I'd say to get used to gnome3 as gnome2 is no longer developed by the gnome team
[02:41] <cipherboy> edbian: there is a better way to get the latest kernel..
[02:41] <boldfilter> Waiting for the fork
[02:41] <edbian> cipherboy, in ubuntu?  what is that?
[02:41] <_cb> unity app bar not auto-hiding? How do I fix?
[02:41] <cipherboy> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> _cb: its configured in ccsm
[02:41] <edbian> cipherboy, never knew there was a ppa
[02:42] <edbian> boldfilter, try the ppa, that will be much easier
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> the kernels in the ppa are not suported here, we can only support the apps in the official repos
[02:42] <edbian> boldfilter, on second thought, try linux from scratch.  That will be much harder but much more fun!
[02:42] <cipherboy> boldfilter: not sure how to add it to get automatically updated, but if you go download the packages manually for your arch, you can dpkg -i *.deb
[02:43] <cipherboy> ActionParsnip: Yes, but we can still inform people about it, right?
[02:43] <edbian> archlinux?
[02:43] <_cb> any ActionParsnip how do I fix in CCSM? It just started happening
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> cipherboy: sure, you can give a guy a rope to hang himself but he has to set it up
[02:43] <edbian> ActionParsnip, It's a ppa on a subdomain of ubuntu.com surely that's ok
[02:43] <cipherboy> edbian: eh? No, architecture (64/32 bit).
[02:44] <edbian> cipherboy, I was kidding :P
[02:44] <ActionParsnip> edbian: only packages from the official ubuntu repos (that you get in default software centre etc) are supported here
[02:44] <edbian> cipherboy, Don't be such a stereo-type.  Perhaps he's running a VAX
[02:44] <borillion> can someone help me debug this dang x server crash?
[02:44] <edbian> ActionParsnip, ok
[02:44] <borillion> I have no clue whats causing it :(
[02:44] <cipherboy> edbian: fine, ia32 anyone?
[02:44] <borillion> hey edbian
[02:44] <edbian> borillion, Hi, I still don't know
[02:44] <edbian> borillion, anything in the xorg log?
[02:44] <cipherboy> borillion: pastebin the logs
[02:44] <ActionParsnip> _cb: under the unity item, you can set the hide method, try setting it to something else, then back
[02:45] <borillion> edbian, just saying hi
[02:45] <boldfilter> Thanks
[02:45] <arooni-mobile> i have a thinkpad t420;  how can i scale the cpu so i can get more batttery life?  ubuntu 11.10
[02:45] <edbian> borillion, :)
[02:47] <boldfilter> Can I install a orenic deb kernel on my 11.04?
[02:47] <cipherboy> ActionParsnip: boldfilter: Yep, did you get our "rope" to "hang yourself with" :P
[02:48] <boldfilter> lol, I'm just using 11.04
[02:48] <cipherboy> boldfilter: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.2-rc6-precise/
[02:48] <cipherboy> If that is the kernel version you want.
[02:48] <cipherboy> boldfilter: navigate up a directory and find the exact kernel version that you want.
[02:48] <_cb> ActionParsnip you mean highlight an item on the app bar click keep in launcher so it does not stay and then click in launcher so it stays? Tried that but app bar still not autohiding
[02:48] <borillion> cipherboy, http://pastebin.com/EgFDjSWW   and    http://pastebin.com/WCNVkhjV
[02:49] <boldfilter> It'll install? Does it matter which environment I choose to use to the kernel?
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> _cb: no, in ccsm there is the hide option, set it to intellihide or something then set it to how you want it
[02:49] <indystorm> Hey guys- I'm using proftpd and ubuntu server. I want to setup a user with default access to the dir /var/www/username how may I do this?
[02:50] <boldfilter> ok cipherboy thanks
[02:51] <cipherboy> boldfilter: nope, just download packages, sudo dpkg -i *.deb (if you don't have any other debs in the directory you download them to)
[02:51] <ActionParsnip> indystorm: make the folder, then run: sudo useradd username -p password -d /var/www/username -s /bin/false; sudo passwd username
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> indystorm: you can then run:  sudo chown -R username:username /var/www/username
[02:52] <cipherboy> borillion: grep for (WW) and look at the nvidia warnings
[02:52] <indystorm> wow cool I'll try it thanks... :)
[02:53] <_cb> ActionParsnip, How do I start CCSM? It does not start from the terminal, it is not on the list of default apps and it does not appear on ubuntu software center.
[02:53] <borillion> kk
[02:55] <DaemonWitch> is there a way to automatically mount partition in gnome3?
[02:55] <DaemonWitch> 06:54 < DaemonWitch> (like in kde the partion appears at dolphin window unmounted, you click it and its automounted)
[02:55] <edbian> _cb, the command to start it is: compizconfig-settings-manager
[02:55] <ActionParsnip> _cb: alt+f2 and run:  ccsm     you may need to install compizconfig-settings-manager
[02:55] <boldfilter> cipherboy Is it important to install headers?
[02:55] <edbian> _cb, I am an idiot.  the command is ccsm
[02:55] <ActionParsnip> DaemonWitch: could use /etc/fstab to make it mount at boot
[02:55]  * edbian thinks it was something else in previous releases
[02:55] <_cb> thanks ActionParsnip, edbian.
[02:56] <cipherboy> boldfilter: Yep, very. Like if you use any sort of 3rd party driver.
[02:56] <edbian> What are linux kernel headers?
[02:57] <borillion> cipherboy, there are some (ww) errors, do you want me to separate them or something?
[02:57] <DaemonWitch> ActionParsnip: i dont understand why they dont make nautilus or what is it called be able to automount like dolphin.
[02:58] <boldfilter> Headers are... what the computer uses to program for the kernel or something
[02:59] <borillion> cipherboy, none of them look like bad errors, things like couldn't find such font etc
[02:59] <cipherboy> borillion: refresh my memory on the problem, was afk
[02:59] <cipherboy> boldfilter: Yes, but you still need them.
[02:59] <boldfilter> No doubt
[03:00] <borillion> cipherboy, My X crashes all the way back to login when I run Calibre, VirtualBox etc
[03:00] <borillion> seems like qt4 programs
[03:01] <diverdude> How do i disable my lenovo w520 touchpad ?
[03:01] <borillion> tried to capture things by going calibre > text.txt in term but nothing appears in the file
[03:01] <cipherboy> borillion: and you are running what wm?
[03:02] <cipherboy> It seems like it is your window manager (gnome?) that is having the issues, not X.
[03:02] <roscog> i have been using mint linux ubuntu.  the support and auto updates fail each time they release a new version.  if i switch to ubuntu, will i have to keep installing the newest version to avoid auto update errors?
[03:03] <borillion> cipherboy, Im running whatever comes with ubuntu 11.10
[03:03] <borillion> unity(?) and ....
[03:04] <BallTongue> I need some help with b43l-legacy issues, my wireless card is bcm4306 rev 2 i have installed b43-fwcutter and got the latest firmware but I am not able to connect to ap
[03:04] <BallTongue> with or without encryption
[03:04] <DaGeek247> join #banshee
[03:04] <cipherboy> borillion: You tried seeing if unity has a logging feature?
[03:05] <borillion> actually no I didn't think of that
[03:05] <dannel> DaGeek247, banshee/mono is on irc.gnome.org
[03:05] <almoxarife> cipherboy: does unity have a logging feature?
[03:05] <DaemonWitch> ubuntu is for fags
[03:05] <DaemonWitch> use pcbsd at least
[03:05] <DaGeek247> yeah, i messed that up badly.
[03:05] <bazhang> DaemonWitch, stop that
[03:05] <AndrewX192> Is it possible to disable automatic momitor configuration on Ubuntu 10.04 with the AMD fglrx driver installed?
[03:05] <zivester> anyone know of a current tutorial for moving an ubuntu install from a hdd to an ssd ?   or is it not even worth it?
[03:06] <boldfilter> Whats pcbsd?
[03:06] <dannel> boldfilter, an attempt to make a desktop OS from freebsd
[03:06] <cipherboy> almoxarife: borillion Not sure, that is why I told him to look. :P
[03:06] <boldfilter> Is freebsd good?
[03:06] <bazhang> boldfilter, thats offtopic here
[03:07] <almoxarife> zivester: its not worth the time, look at 'readhead'
[03:07] <dannel> some will probably say bsd is more posix-compliant than linux.. but linux is most cutting-edge
[03:07] <almoxarife> !info readahead
[03:08] <boldfilter> Cool, I'm still learning about all this linux stuff
[03:08] <zivester> i already bought an ssd... so ur saying just install fresh ?
[03:09] <boldfilter> So far I'm glad it's on my phone and both my computers
[03:10] <boldfilter> brb going to try this 3.2 kernel
[03:12] <sab0> i am a novice linux user,using ubuntu,trying command line;i open a terminal and tried "man aptitude" BUT now i can not able to close this staying in the same terminal;can any one please help me...any shortcut key or command ???
[03:12] <rypervenche> sab0: q
[03:13] <boldfilter> 3.2 feels alot faster
[03:13] <borillion> cipherboy, says to run unity --advanced-debug from tty
[03:13] <sab0> rypervenche : thank you;can you please tell me from where i can learn this type of simple stuff about ubuntu
[03:13] <borillion> cipherboy, is that crtl+alt+shift+F*
[03:13] <reaver9> has anyone had problems streaming video in 11.10   "200, stream not found" error
[03:14] <boldfilter> cipherboy 3.2 feels alot faster
[03:14] <rypervenche> sab0: http://www.linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
[03:14] <cipherboy> boldfilter: that is good
[03:14] <cipherboy> borillion: Ctrl+Alt+F1 for first TTY
[03:14] <boldfilter> 11.04 hybrid
[03:15] <shade34321> this is more of a linux question but I haven't been able to find the answer yet from google. How do you find where a process is running from. For instance if i do /etc/init.d/slurm status I get nothing since slurm isn't located in /etc/init.d yet when i do top | grep "slurm" it's running. I need to restart the process and want to make sure i can
[03:15] <rypervenche> sab0: There is a PDF there you can download.
[03:15] <cipherboy> shade34321: want the path to the process?
[03:15] <borillion> cipherboy, gives me a prompt with (gdb) instead of $
[03:16] <shade34321> yeah
[03:16] <cipherboy> borillion: interesting, try other ttys. But you have to log in first.
[03:16] <sab0> rypervenche: thank you so much,hope it will be effective for me!
[03:17] <dannel> shade34321, ps x | grep slurp ? if you want the path and it is not listed, use 'whereis slurp'
[03:17] <rypervenche> sab0: No problem. Sorry I don't know of any guides in Italian.
[03:17] <cipherboy> shade34321: ls -l /proc/PID | grep 'exe'
[03:18] <cipherboy> dannel: won't that only work if it is in $PATH?
[03:18] <dannel> if it's not in path then the path should be listed in ps
[03:18] <ZombieRamen> i'm having a pretty serious problem: i just uninstalled some nvidia drivers and now my system displays a black screen after the ubuntu splash screen
[03:18] <borillion> I did, cipherboy from   me@P-79:~$  I get (gdb) instead
[03:19] <shade34321> hmm...neither one of those are working...probably partially b/c it's rhel
[03:19] <U-b-u-n-t-u> there use to be a weather app on the task bar in previous ubuntu's is there a way to have something like it in 11.10?
[03:19] <sab0> rypervenche : dont worry thank you so much
[03:19] <cipherboy> borillion: so when you run the command you get the (gdb)?
[03:20] <cipherboy> shade34321: might try a rhel channel then.
[03:20] <ZombieRamen> can someone help me fix a driver issue?
[03:20] <shade34321> didnt know there was one...and #centos aren't helpful people...lol
[03:21] <dannel> maybe gdb forked the process? although i don't know why unless you did so explicitly
[03:22] <cipherboy> dannel: thinking something like he ran it in debug mode which gives you a debugger rather than a log.
[03:22] <dannel> i see
[03:22] <samba35> how to check which files are installed  with any package or list all files provided by package
[03:23] <ZombieRamen> my screen is blank after the ubuntu boot screen after i uninstalled nvidia drivers
[03:23] <boldfilter> cipherboy what was the command to install the kernel again?
[03:24] <ActionParsnip> samba35: http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/amd64/firebird2.1-classic/filelist
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[03:24] <cipherboy> boldfilter: get the packages, then in the directory that they are in: sudo dpkg -i linux*.deb
[03:24] <ActionParsnip> samba35: for example
[03:24] <boldfilter> ok thanks
[03:25] <tellone> Would apt-get remove vim or apt-get --purge remove vim, remove the
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> ZombieRamen: wassup?
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> U-b-u-n-t-u: let me search
[03:25] <ZombieRamen> ActionParsnip: thanks for responding
[03:26] <ZombieRamen> ActionParsnip: i uninstalled nvidia-settings, nvidia-current, and whatever the current driver version of nvidia's drivers was with synaptic
[03:26] <samba35> ok
[03:26] <samba35> thanks
[03:26] <ZombieRamen> ActionParsnip: now my system can't get past the ubuntu boot screen - it goes to a blank screen with no cursor or terminal
[03:28] <almoxarife> ZombieRamen: you removed the graphics drivers, did you leave something to run graphics?
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> U-b-u-n-t-u: http://www.consumedconsumer.org/2011/10/ubuntu-1110-oneiric-ocelot-tips-and.html    may help
[03:29] <ZombieRamen> almoxarife: i'm not sure
[03:29] <U-b-u-n-t-u> looking
[03:29] <ActionParsnip> ZombieRamen: add the boot option:  nouveau.blacklist=1
[03:29] <ZombieRamen> ActionParsnip: where do i add that to?
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> ZombieRamen: its a boot option so hold shift at boot and add it to the boot
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption | ZombieRamen
[03:30] <tellone> is there any chance that :apt-get --purge remove vim, would delete anything in the ~/.vim folder?
[03:30] <almoxarife> tellone: no, should not
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> tellone: it won't
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> tellone: same with any app, its why uninstalling and reinstalling an app is fairly futile :)
[03:32] <ZombieRamen> ActionParsnip: you mentioned nouveau, isn't that the open source nvidia driver? i'm running on integrated graphics now
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> ZombieRamen: so did you take out the nvidia card?
[03:33] <ZombieRamen> ActionParsnip: yes, and that left me unable to run opengl applications, which was why i uninstalled the drivers
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> ZombieRamen: then add the boot option: nomodeset
[03:35] <ZombieRamen> ActionParsnip: so should i still use that same command?
[03:36] <phong_> hi guys
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> ZombieRamen: the nomodeset, yes
[03:38] <ZombieRamen> ActionParsnip: what's nomodeset? the command you gave me was nouveau.blacklist=1
[03:38] <etz> Hello all
[03:38] <mebigfatguy1> i get the purple screen of death with linux 3.0, works fine with 2.6.8
[03:38] <dannel> hello etz und phong
[03:38] <mebigfatguy1> adding nomodeset just changes it to the black screen of death (with blinking cursor for amusement)
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> mebigfatguy1: are you using propreitary video drivers?
[03:38] <mebigfatguy1> i just clean installed ubuntu 11.10
[03:38] <mebigfatguy1> so whatever you get with that
[03:39] <retardo> JOIN #VIDEOLAN FOR FREE OPS, BIBLE READING, FAMILY FUN AND CUM SLURPING, FUCK ALL NIGGERs, KIKES, FAGGOTS, DUNE COONS, CHINKS and SPICS.
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> mebigfatguy1: select Unity2D at login, then you can get updates and/or instal proprietary video drivers
[03:39] <Guest90916> hi there
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> !ops
[03:39] <mebigfatguy1> ActionParsnip: well, i can log in if i select linux 2.6
[03:40] <Guest90916> how to install into specific folder in ubuntu?
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> mebigfatguy1: i thought it was a clean install?
[03:40] <mebigfatguy1> thought so
[03:40] <mebigfatguy1> yeah was cause i tried to upgrade from 11.04 and i was completely hosed
[03:41] <mebigfatguy1> so i did a clean install
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> mebigfatguy1: well if you have an older kernel around, then its not, its an upgrade
[03:41] <mebigfatguy1> hmm
[03:41] <mebigfatguy1> AH!
[03:41] <mebigfatguy1> thats it
[03:41] <mebigfatguy1> i couldn't install 11.10
[03:41] <mebigfatguy1> as the installer had the purple screen of death
[03:41] <mebigfatguy1> so i clean installed 11.04 and then upgraded that
[03:41] <olabaz> hey, how can I mark a flash drive as a bootable drive with ubuntu?
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> mebigfatguy1: did you install any video drivers?
[03:42] <mebigfatguy1> no
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> olabaz: use unetbootin
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> mebigfatguy1: what GPU do you use?
[03:42] <mebigfatguy1> GEForce FX 5200
[03:42] <ZombieRamen> ActionParsnip: so what command am i supposed to add?
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> mebigfatguy1: ok, boot to oneiric, at login select unity 2D and log in there
[03:43] <mebigfatguy1> ok
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> ZombieRamen: not sure, nomodeset usually makes onboard intels ok
[03:43] <mebigfatguy1> and then what
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> mebigfatguy1: then install the proprietary nvidia driver and reboot, then use unity (not 2D)
[03:44] <mebigfatguy1> sudo apt-get install ?what?
[03:45] <olabaz> ActionParsnip: last time I did that, I got to a terminal type screen and I didn't know what to do
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> mebigfatguy1: use the driver app, it will give what you need
[03:45] <mebigfatguy1> "additional drivers" ?
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> olabaz: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> mebigfatguy1: yes, you'll find it in dash]
[03:45] <mebigfatguy1> yup ok
[03:45] <bazhang> mebigfatguy1, yes
[03:46] <mebigfatguy1> thanks, trying now bye
[03:46] <olabaz> ActionParsnip: yeah it was fine, I'll do it again to show you my exact problem
[03:50] <shendonfig> HI
[03:51] <phong_> hi guys
[03:53] <mebigfatguy1> booted to unity 2d, opened 'additional drivers' it says version 173 is already activated
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> mebigfatguy1: then uninstall it, I thought you said you didn't install any video drivers...?
[03:54] <mebigfatguy1> not that i knew
[03:54] <mebigfatguy1> who knows. ok so uninstalling
[03:54] <ActionParsnip> mebigfatguy1: its a concious thing, its not automatic unless yuo do it
[03:55] <mebigfatguy1> ActionParsnip: do i install something else?
[03:55] <spazzz> whats the command in the terminal to see whos on your pc?
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> mebigfatguy1: remove the driver, reboot to unity2D again then reinstall the driver
[03:56] <mebigfatguy1> ok
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> spazzz: run:  who
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> spazzz: http://www.hscripts.com/tutorials/linux-commands/who.html
[03:58] <witakr> Hello folks
[03:58] <spazzz> ty I forgot my brain hurts been learning so much lately couldn't find that simple line though needed it
[03:58] <ZombieRamen> ActionParsnip: i tried holding down shift, but it took me to grub, and nomodeset didn't work there
[03:58] <witakr> Can someone help me with an Error I am getting when i try to install an app? It says it can't find a file.. I'm using Ubuntu 11.10 on 64bit machine
[03:59] <ActionParsnip> ZombieRamen: there may be options for safe mode vga
[04:00] <ActionParsnip> witakr: can you give a PASTEBIN of the output of:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get --reinstall install nano
[04:00] <witakr> ok
[04:00] <witakr> one sec
[04:01] <ZombieRamen> ActionParsnip: there were no options there, i was taken to grub, and i could edit boot options in a text editor or choose a different version of linux, that's all
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> ZombieRamen: try the boot option: vga=771
[04:02] <ZombieRamen> ActionParsnip: where do i put that? there was no place to put that in grub
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> ZombieRamen: press E to (e)dit the kernel and add the option
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> ZombieRamen: there IS a place to put it, I suggest you also remove: quiet splash    so you can watch the boot
[04:03] <ZombieRamen> ActionParsnip: i'll try that now
[04:04] <researcher123> which channel do I join to find help on VLC server?
[04:05] <witakr> ActionParsnip, It's working but that is going to be a loooooong pastebin
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> witakr: that's fine
[04:07] <diverdude> For ubuntu 11.10 which skype version should be used ?
[04:07] <olabaz> ActionParsnip: are you still here?
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: I always grab the one from www.skype.com
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> olabaz: indeed
[04:08] <thauriswulfa> Anybody use Rhythmbox? I am having problem with lyrics plugin. Its not working.
[04:08] <diverdude> ActionParsnip, ok...it just says 10.04 on that one
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: look closer
[04:08] <olabaz> ActionParsnip: k after i did the unetbootin the boot screen comes up and it says Default but when I press enter nothing happens
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: hint: the plus sign
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> olabaz: it takes a while to start the boot, usb is slow
[04:09] <diverdude> ActionParsnip, huh? plus sign? I press skype.com and download and hover the mouse over download now
[04:09] <olabaz> ActionParsnip: it also says Automatic boot in 9 seconds (and it counts down) and it keeps resetting when it reaches 0
[04:09] <diverdude> ActionParsnip, i dont see any plus signs
[04:09] <ZombieRamen> ActionParsnip: i added that, but and it sent me to command line login; i tried starting x, and it complained about there being no "nvidia" driver in my x.org configuration
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: Ubuntu 10.4+ 32-bit   means 10.04 and later
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: source: http://www.skype.com/intl/en-gb/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux/
[04:10] <diverdude> ActionParsnip, ahh ok
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: see what I mean now ;)
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: not just 10.04
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> ZombieRamen: did you make an xorg.conf file to load the nvidia driver?
[04:11] <ZombieRamen> ActionParsnip: i have no idea
[04:11] <ZombieRamen> ActionParsnip: i never made a file, but nvidia's drivers made have made one
[04:14] <Lumiere> Does anyone know how to properly restart networking on ubuntu 11.10?
[04:14] <mebigfatguy> uninstalling and reinstalling nvidia driver while in unity2d seems to have changed nothing... still purple screen of death
[04:14] <Lumiere> I did a /etc/init.d/networking restart and eth0/1 didn't come back up
[04:14] <ZombieRamen> ActionParsnip: where am i supposed to put nomodeset in grub? i might try that again
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> ZombieRamen: remove quiet splash and put ity in...
[04:16] <mebigfatguy> hmm, i'll try that as well
[04:17] <ZombieRamen> ActionParsnip: where?
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> ZombieRamen: when you hold shift then press E, adding bot options is the same process
[04:18] <researcher123> how can I get a list of channels here?
[04:18] <GraemeLion> researcher123: /list
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> ZombieRamen: the link about boot options that ubottu will tell you, did you read it
[04:18] <GraemeLion> And if your client is picky, /list -yes
[04:18] <ZombieRamen> ActionParsnip: i looked at it, but my computer's rebooted twice now
[04:19] <Lumiere> Any networking guys?
[04:19] <Jordan_U> !alis | researcher123
[04:20] <mebigfatguy1> no love for me
[04:20] <Guest90916> hi guys, how to know the user we're using now in ubuntu? thanks
[04:20] <researcher123> when I type this command /list I am not getting the list of channels
[04:21] <ZombieRamen> ActionParsnip: in other words, that link is long gone, and i have no idea what i'm doing
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> ZombieRamen: you can make her say it again, or use web history
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> researcher123: what client are you using?
[04:22] <researcher123> ActionParsnip: empathy
[04:22] <sab0> I am novice linux user;learning,can any one please tell me how to solve this problem : http://paste.ubuntu.com/775952/
[04:22] <witakr> ActionParsnip, OK.. It finished but I couldn't copy the whole thing...  here is the latter most portion of the terminal output :    http://paste.ubuntu.com/775951/
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> sab0: did you download the deb yourself?
[04:22] <GraemeLion> sab0: Try 'sudo apt-get install clamtk'
[04:22] <sab0> ActionParsnip, yes
[04:22] <Lumiere> and run sudo apt-get update before you run the install
[04:23] <boldfilter> cipherboy Is it normal for the update manager to want to install the old kernel back?
[04:23] <sab0> GraemeLion, i tried but giving me this http://paste.ubuntu.com/775952/
[04:23] <GraemeLion> Or if you downloaded it yourself, 'sudo dpkg -i clamtk_4.36-1_all.deb'
[04:23] <sab0> ActionParsnip, i dl it from sourceforge
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> sab0: then use:  sudo dpkg -i clamtk_4.36-1_all.deb
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> sab0: there is a clamtk in the repos
[04:24] <ZombieRamen> ActionParsnip: i looked through that, and i can't make sense of any of it
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> !info clamtk
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> sab0: there is also a clamav ppa with newer engines and defs
[04:24] <ZombieRamen> ActionParsnip: i looked under the changing settings for an existing installation temporarily, and it linked me to a grub2 page
[04:24] <sab0> ActionParsnip, why -i;what this -i will do
[04:24] <Lumiere> sab0: you likely need to update your package list and check the sources.list for universe
[04:24] <imMute> Is it possible to "install" packages as non-root?  I have a system that I really want the latest git on, but I can't upgrade the system repos (and installing from source isn't working for other reasons)
[04:25] <maktubinete> can anone help me with i2p config ?
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> ZombieRamen: hold shift at boot, press E then use cursors to manipulate the text and delete the words:  quiet splash    and add:  nomodeset
[04:25] <sab0> Lumiere, how could i do that?
[04:25] <ZombieRamen> ActionParsnip: thank you
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> ZombieRamen: I thought you said you'd tried nomodeset, you clearly didn't at all
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> witakr: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc   please
[04:26] <mebigfatguy1> ActionParsnip: is there a way to to see command output on boot to see where it hangs, or something, that would help determine the problem?
[04:26] <Learner> hi, im not id this is the right place, i just cant seem to configure my webcam to work on any chat client (other than skype) in 11.10
[04:26] <witakr> ActionParsnip, oneiric
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> mebigfatguy1: if you remove the quiet splash     boot option, you can watch the boot
[04:27] <e_t_> imMute: it's possible to build software as non-root (in fact, that's recommended), and you can set an install prefix of $HOME, but the actual DEB packages can't be installed locally.
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> witakr: try:  sudo apt-get update    first, should update the knowledge of the ppa
[04:27] <Lumiere> sab0: 'sudo apt-get update' first
[04:27] <mebigfatguy1> ActionParsnip: i removed quite splash and added nomodeset, but it just hangs on the purple screen
[04:27] <kaushal> Hi
[04:27] <sab0> ActionParsnip : i tried your given command but its giving me this : dpkg-i: command not found
[04:27] <cypher-neo> Hi kaushal
[04:28] <cypher-neo> kaushal, Need help?
[04:28] <mebigfatguy1> sab0: space between dpkg and -i
[04:28] <kaushal> is there a popup notification available for jira tickets ?
[04:28] <witakr> ActionParsnip, you want a pastebin of the output?
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> sab0: sudo dpkg -i  filename   note the SPACES in the command
[04:28] <kaushal> http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/overview
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> witakr: sure
[04:29] <sab0> ActionParsnip, mebigfatguy1 : thank you
[04:29] <Learner> hi, im having troubles using webcam on pidgin, i think it doesnt recognice them, or do i have to set up sometihng, i cant figureit ou, help!
[04:29] <witakr> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/775956/
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> Learner: does it work in cheese?
[04:29] <cypher-neo> kaushal, I have actually not used that program. If someone else here has used the program, I'll let them tell you.
[04:30] <Learner> yes it does, and on skype, but not on emesene or pidgin
[04:30] <imMute> e_t_: crap.  isn't the .deb package just a tarball/zipfile of some sort?  if I could just get the binaries out of them...
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> witakr: mixing debian sources with ubuntu is not supported
[04:30] <Learner> im trying to do a videocall betewn two msn acounts
[04:30] <witakr> hmm
[04:31] <almoxarife> Learner: you think? does pidgin see the camera or not? if not, then pidgin won't work till ubuntu recognizes it
[04:31] <Learner> pidgin does not recognice the camera, but it is recogniced in cheese and skype.
[04:32] <witakr> ActionParsnip, i was trying to install a video editor and i thought they'd work... shouldn't just do what any website says i suppose.. i can remove those if you think it might help my qt4 ins compile error
[04:32] <e_t_> imMute: a DEB package is pretty much a tarball, except they use the AR format which has really poor compression. However it's also a matter of what libraries the software is linked against internally. Like I said though, you should be able to build and install the software you want to your user account, if the build tools are available.
[04:32] <cypher-neo> almoxarife, I think he needs the v4l2 package.
[04:33] <cypher-neo> almoxarife, It's a video webcam package
[04:33] <almoxarife> Learner: and voice/video plugin is active in pidgin?
[04:34] <almoxarife> Learner: and voice/video plugin is active in pidgin?
[04:34] <Learner> omg, it wasnt !! Im so sorry
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> d'oh
[04:35] <cypher-neo> :)
[04:35] <Learner> Ill try  now
[04:35] <almoxarife> cypher-neo: I use the3 cam on pidgin, to google video/chat even
[04:36] <Learner> sorry : (, so ashamed
[04:36] <cypher-neo> almoxarife, Nice call! Sometimes Occam's Razor is the best suggestion. :)
[04:36] <imMute> e_t_: the build tools are definitely available. I think it's just a really old ubuntu installation.  I'll have to try again tomorrow
[04:36] <almoxarife> Learner: no prob, cool
[04:36] <Learner> :D!
[04:36] <witakr> ActionParsnip, i actually was having this problem before the mixed sources thing... i ran ./configure and got an error about not being able to find a file... it is using qmake
[04:37] <Learner> thanks!
[04:37] <almoxarife> cypher-neo: I am actually pretty impressed with the pidgin video/chat thing, on google even, and it does not break in call???? wow
[04:39] <almoxarife> cypher-neo: occams razor??? I forgot what it stands for, something about all things being even the obvious???????
[04:39] <milamber> almoxarife: the simplest option is usually the 'correct' answer
[04:39] <cypher-neo> almoxarife, What milamber  said. :)
[04:40] <almoxarife> milamber: thnks
[04:40] <milamber> np, that science degree finally paid off :)
[04:41] <cypher-neo> lol
[04:42] <U-b-u-n-t-u> what is the command to remove a program?
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> U-b-u-n-t-u: sudo apt-get --purge remove packagename
[04:42] <Learner> Dudes, still nothing, on the config window of the video/audio plugin, is it supposed to have "defaualt" in every field?
[04:43] <U-b-u-n-t-u> ActionParsnip, I tried sudo apt-get --purge my-weather-indicator  but it didnt work
[04:44] <OerHeks> U-b-u-n-t-u, sudo apt-get remove --purge my-weather-indicator
[04:44] <sudokode> Nisstyre: ping
[04:44] <U-b-u-n-t-u> I used remove
[04:44] <U-b-u-n-t-u> it worked
[04:44] <U-b-u-n-t-u> thanks OerHeks
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> U-b-u-n-t-u: magic when you use what I say and it works...weird that ;)
[04:45] <cypher-neo> ;)
[04:45] <U-b-u-n-t-u> aha!
[04:45] <U-b-u-n-t-u> lol
[04:45] <U-b-u-n-t-u> thanks ActionParsnip
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> np dude
[04:45] <U-b-u-n-t-u> I didnt see the remove
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> sudo apt-get install glasses    :D
[04:46] <cypher-neo> lol
[04:47] <cypher-neo> sudo apt-get install bifocals
[04:47] <new2linx> good evening, hows every1
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> new2linx: tired but only 3 hours work left :)
[04:47] <new2linx> ActionParsnip, i see, im exhausted. been averaging 4 hours a night for past 2 weeks.
[04:48] <new2linx> ActionParsnip, i can sleep when i pass away. lol
[04:48] <new2linx> sorry, thats all offtopic
[04:48] <io_> hello everyone
[04:48] <new2linx> hi
[04:48] <andyn> hello.jpg
[04:48] <cypher-neo> Hi io_
[04:49] <io_> i have a quick question, is it safe to modify an ubuntu boot partition using a live cd?
[04:49] <cypher-neo> Welcome back Zed`
[04:49] <opticlove> io_: yes
[04:49] <kaushal> Hi
[04:49] <opticlove> well, actually, i know its how you would modify a partition, anyway...
[04:50] <kaushal> I dont see httpd -M on Ubuntu Linux Server 10.04 when i refer http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/find-out-apache-version/
[04:50] <io_> i was planning on using gparted
[04:50] <kaushal> Any CLI tool available ?
[04:50] <new2linx> io_, yes
[04:51] <Zed`> Thank you cypher-neo
[04:51] <io_> ok cause i'm planning on installing windows 8 on a new partition, but i hear that overrides grub
[04:51] <new2linx> io_, i just did that, i did a custom install and didn't touch the existing home folder and it worked awwesome
[04:52] <io_> so there won't be any problems booting into ubuntu?
[04:52] <ActionParsnip> io_: you can boot to ubuntu CD and reinstate grub to the MBR
[04:53] <io_> sounds great! thanks for the help!
[04:54] <cypher-neo> ActionParsnip, I just saw the Precise CD image. It's too big to fit on a CD!
[04:54] <cypher-neo> ActionParsnip, I hope they trim it down a bit before releasing it.
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> cypher-neo: currently yes, just use usb, or use minimal ISO
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> cypher-neo: it'll get trimmed to size
[04:55] <agentgasmask> Hi all. How can I restore my evolution mail and settings from my ~/.evolution directory? I didn't know about the built-in backup/restore features of evo before I reinstalled. Now all I have is a backup of my home dir.
[04:55] <cypher-neo> ActionParsnip, Minimal is... which image?
[04:56] <kaushal> is there a way to know list of modules loaded or enabled in apache2 using CLI on Server version: Apache/2.2.14 (Ubuntu) on on 10.04 LTS
[04:56] <ActionParsnip> cypher-neo: the mini iso, its about 12Mb in size and uses the repos to install the OS
[04:56] <kaushal> i can see it under /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/
[04:57] <kaushal> but any cli tool ?
[04:58] <sab0> i just installed clamtk_4.36;but its showing that the engine is OUTDATED,i tried with sudo freshclam and got this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/775962/.............how can i update my clamav engine???also i tried with synaptic but no latest version there!!
[04:59] <ActionParsnip> sab0: add the clamav ppa
[04:59] <diverdude> how do i disable the touchpad on a lnovo w520?
[05:00] <sab0> ActionParsnip, can you please tell me how to do that?
[05:01] <mebigfatguy> sab0: run software sources
[05:01] <mebigfatguy> sab0: click other software tab, and hit add
[05:02] <mebigfatguy> sab0: you will need to get the apt line from the clamav website most likely
[05:02] <OerHeks> ppa:ubuntu-clamav/ppa
[05:02] <mebigfatguy> thar ya go
[05:02] <OerHeks> from https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-clamav/+archive/ppa
[05:03] <ActionParsnip> sab0: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-clamav/ppa ; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade]#
[05:03] <ActionParsnip> sab0: a quick websearch would have shown you that
[05:03] <sab0> mebigfatguy, ActionParsnip :Thank you
[05:05] <stanleyxyz> hello
[05:05] <stanleyxyz> i installed ubuntu thru a PD on a new laptop
[05:05] <stanleyxyz> but its not booting up
[05:05] <stanleyxyz> the version i donw;loaded is amd64
[05:05] <stanleyxyz> is it the wrong version?
[05:05] <stanleyxyz> cuz my processor is intel i5
[05:06] <stanleyxyz> #help me
[05:06] <mebigfatguy> wrong version
[05:06] <stanleyxyz> ok shuld i download i386
[05:06] <diverdude> how do i disable the touchpad on a lnovo w520?
[05:06] <OerHeks> intel i5 is 64 bit, so you have the right version
[05:06] <stanleyxyz> yeah even i thought the same
[05:06] <ActionParsnip> stanleyxyz: amd64 just means it will work on 64bit CPUs, it works on 64bit Intels too
[05:06] <mebigfatguy> i386 is 32
[05:07] <ActionParsnip> stanleyxyz: what happens when you try and boot?
[05:07] <stanleyxyz> i tried unetbootin to put ubuntu on the pendrive
[05:07] <stanleyxyz> so wat is the solution
[05:07] <mhiku> ive installed a memcached plugin in mysql. it works but the data in mysql cli is not realtime.. please help
[05:08] <stanleyxyz> wen i try and boot its just a blank screen
[05:08] <pangolin> mhiku: try #mysql
[05:08] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: may help http://askubuntu.com/questions/59150/touchpad-disabled-after-login-on-a-lenovo-g550-laptop
[05:08] <ActionParsnip> stanleyxyz: what video chip do you use?
[05:08] <stanleyxyz> if i plug the usb after boot
[05:08] <stanleyxyz> it just says something about paging and resets to default paging
[05:08] <stanleyxyz> thats it
[05:09] <ActionParsnip> stanleyxyz:  what video chip do you use?
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> stanleyxyz: simple question...
[05:17] <tertl3> ubuntu is goobers
[05:17] <tertl3> troololololololol
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> grammar is useful too
[05:19] <OerHeks> if goober = peanuts, i believe it is.
[05:19] <tertl3> wha?>
[05:20] <tertl3> ubuntu bad
[05:20] <tertl3> windows good
[05:20] <tertl3> mac good
[05:20] <xjiujiu> I have a problem the terminal become a white area and nothing showed when I make it to max.
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> tertl3: then use windows..
[05:20] <ok_wait> H2O
[05:20] <visual1ce> hi
[05:20] <tertl3> ubuntu is for making life difficult
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> xjiujiu: does it affect any other apps?
[05:21] <xjiujiu> action: no
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> tertl3: this is support only, please go to another channel
[05:21] <xjiujiu> just terminal..
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> xjiujiu: which terminal?
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> xjiujiu: tried xterm?
[05:21] <tertl3> try this, rm -r ubuntu
[05:21] <ronkrt> can anyone recommend a good easy virtual user multi domain with easy management webmail server?
[05:21] <OerHeks> !danger
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> tertl3: that won't do anything
[05:22] <tertl3> lol
[05:22] <tertl3> jk
[05:22] <xjiujiu> no gnome
[05:22] <ActionParsnip> ronkrt: roundcube isn't bad
[05:22] <ActionParsnip> xjiujiu: try xterm, its in a default install
[05:22] <ronkrt> is it easy to use?
[05:22] <xjiujiu> ok
[05:22] <ActionParsnip> xjiujiu: if you use terminal a lot I can recommend guake :)
[05:22] <ok_wait> i like guake :)
[05:22] <visual1ce> im using banshee and i have the most irritating problem - my file system queue has a list of files listed in expected order with filenames "Track 1" to "Track 25". I want to reverse the order but there is no way to do so. I click on the Title bar and it lists items like so: Track 1, Track 10 ... Track 9... how can i change it so it sorts correctly where it encounters numbers?
[05:22] <ActionParsnip> ronkrt: depends on ability, one persons easy is anothers hard
[05:23] <ronkrt> easy for a newb
[05:23] <ActionParsnip> ronkrt: there are guides around
[05:23] <xjiujiu> ActionParsnip:thanks
[05:23] <pangolin> tertl3: consider that your only warning. :)
[05:23] <ok_wait> visual1ce, edit the id3 tags for sequential tracks
[05:24] <urlin2u> So is the desktop manager for xubuntu 11.10 metacity?
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> xjiujiu: if you use kde then use yakuake, if you want lightweight use tilda  all are great, they give a terminal the drops from the top and hides on hotkey
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> urlin2u: xfwin4 i believe
[05:24] <urlin2u> ActionParsnip, thanx.
[05:24] <visual1ce> ugh... i just want it to sort correctly - i have 163 files named Track 1 to Track 163
[05:25] <xjiujiu> ActionParsnip:sounds cool..
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> urlin2u: you can use metacity if you desire
[05:26] <urlin2u> ActionParsnip, I set up the cube everything works in compiz but the window header even with the window decorator ticked, not sure of the problem.
[05:32] <upsla> Low disk space. I am running Ubuntu 11.10. Need help in freeing up space.
[05:33] <amagee> hey i'm trying to ssh to one of my servers and it is timing out, even though i have an open and functional ssh session to that same server.. does anyone have any ideas where i should be looking to find what's wrong?
[05:33] <maktubinete> cant config. i2p can anyone help me ?
[05:34] <ok_wait> upsla, try gdmap
I am running low space i can't install that
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> upsla: uninstall old kernels
 how to do that? i am novice in Linux...
[05:37] <lahwran> I'd like to make sure to buy hardware that will be compatible with ubuntu. I already have some of the hardware for my new system, how can I determine how much work it will be to make it work in ubuntu, and how can I determine what other hardware will not produce incompatibilities? I have an ati 5870, and I'm considering an intel i3 and possibly an intel motherboard
[05:37] <e_t_> amagee: would you happen to have been working on firewall rules or have a firewall running on the box you're SSH'd into?
[05:37] <amagee> e_t_: i haven't changed anything on the server recently
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> upsla: if you can pastebin the output of:  uname -a; lsb_release -a; dpkg -l | grep linux-image-       I can advise
[05:38] <xjiujiu> My terminal is be fine,but I done nothing... very strange..
wait
[05:38] <amagee> e_t_: could it be firewall? how would i check that?
[05:38] <lahwran> I know ati is known to not work well with linux in general, but I think it should boot using VESA, at least; I tested the graphics card in a friend's computer earlier, and it crashed as soon as X started. anything in particular I should be worried about for purchasing my own system? I'm wondering if perhaps the combination of graphics and mobo/cpu did it
[05:41] <e_t_> amagee: "iptables -L" will show you all firewall rules. You can also run ssh with the -v option to get some more output from the ssh connection process.
[05:41] <amagee> e_t_: apparently iptables is not found
 here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/775984/
[05:41] <amagee> e_t_: i've been running ssh with -vvv, but doesn't seem to say anything interesting
[05:42] <amagee> e_t_: http://dpaste.com/675643/
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> upsla: sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-image-3.0.0-12-generic linux-image-3.0.0-13-generic; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> upsla: will get you about 400Mb space
 let me try..
[05:46] <jodie> I've got to install google apps in the LMs Moodle. Where do I start? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
[05:47] <tripelb> I'd like help. I've finally got 11.04 and it's seamless with wireless and it loads the non-free with a checkbox and comes with an IRC client. All good. BUT... the GUI is a nightmare. Gnome was simple from the word go (not counting the program installer Sy---).  What do I do to get gnome as the GUI and not Unity? THANKS.
[05:47]  * maktubinete ask for help setting up i2p
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: unity is a shel for gnome, you are using Gnome now
[05:47] <tripelb> LMsMoodie  that's a funnie name jodie. What is it?
[05:48] <tripelb> I thought Unity and Gnome were both shells for the Real Ubuntu which is the text part. ActionParsnip
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: if you are using Natty, you can log into gnome classic and get the old style gnome desktop. The gnome in Natty is no longer developed so I suggest you become accustomed
[05:48] <jodie> Educational software.. Students take classes online.
 ya got around 400Mb of space. But i think i will end up running low on space if i install updates in future.Any suggestions?.
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: unity is a shell, you can run unity on LXDE if you want
[05:48] <tripelb> ActionParsnip, I am using xchataqua on a Mac right now, actually.
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> upsla: sudo apt-get clean    will probably free a lot
[05:49] <amagee> will restarting sshd will kill my current ssh session?
[05:49] <Scott_S> amagee: Yes.
[05:49] <tripelb> ActionParsnip, I have no idea what LXDE is. I want one that looks like 10.04 and 9.04 and 6.04...
[05:49] <amagee> ok this could be a disaster
[05:49] <Jordan_U> !notunity | tripelb
[05:49] <tripelb> thanks jordan
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: use gnome classic session at login screen
[05:49] <e_t_> amagee: can you ping the server? I wasn't able to ping that IP from here.
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: lxde is a much lighter desktop, its an alternative to gnome
[05:50] <amagee> no, i can't ping the server, but i'm not sure if it's supposed to respond to ping anyway
 But still my total file system usage is ariund 71.6 %.
[05:50] <e_t_> amagee: restarting sshd shouldn't kill current connections.
[05:50] <tripelb> jordan I need, erally need to have a livecd with gnome so I can function and show someone else Ubuntu. I am so handicapped with it. ActionParsnip
[05:50] <tripelb> ActionParsnip, if I can use gnome can I use lxde?
[05:51] <tripelb> I have never used compiz
[05:51] <Jordan_U> tripelb: Try an Xubuntu LiveCD (I'd go with Xubuntu 11.10 personally).
[05:51] <amagee> e_t_: services on the server are operational though
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> upsla: uninstall apps you don't need then, you can also use bleachbit carefully to remove temp guff but watch settings and avoid settings which will take a long time
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: if you want, xfce is also a desktop you can use
[05:51] <tripelb> Jordan_U, I've never used xubuntu. Would I also feel confused?
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> upsla: close as many apps as you can
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> upsla: and run it as root and user (there will be 2 items in the menu)
[05:52] <tripelb> ActionParsnip, so at the "login screen" (which you dont get on a liveCD) I choose gnome classic. What do I do to have the liveCD come up with Gnome Classic?
[05:52] <e_t_> amagee: What does "netstat -tap" show on your server?
[05:52] <Jordan_U> tripelb: Xubuntu is very similar to GNOME2's interface, and has the advantage that it will stay that way far into the future (whereas GNOME2 is pretty much dead, for any distribution).
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: gnome2 is dead upstream so after naty is EOL, you will not get any Gnome2 DE in ubuntu
[05:53] <tripelb> or do I know what a loginscreen is? ActionParsnip
 what is "temp guff" ?. i don't find any option by that name in bleachbit
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: in Natty you can use the 'gnome classic' session at login
[05:53] <mohwaqas12> Is it okay to run fsck / e2fsck on logical volume
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: click username then in the middle at the bottom change the session, then enter password and log in
[05:53] <tripelb> ActionParsnip, Jordan_U I dont care if it's the future. I want to show 2 friends ubuntu which will I hpe blow their minds with speed.
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> mohwaqas12: absolutely, just be sure it is unmounted
[05:53] <new2linx> what would the reason be that rhythmbox isn't saving my library despite me adding the folder repeatedly?
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: if you want speed then Lubuntu will be much faster
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: uses LXDE as DE and Openbox as WM, super fast
[05:54] <mohwaqas12> ActionParsnip: thank you. How to recover LVM partition . I was getting unexpected inconsistency error so i ran fsck manually to fix it. now when i mount partition it only has lost+found folder
[05:54] <tripelb> ActionParsnip, what is the middle at the boddom? There is no login in a liveCD. --- and we are talking about speed compared ot an old bloated windows XP
[05:54] <amagee> hmmm, ok, there seems to be nothing wrong with the actual server, it's just that my entry in .ssh/config started resolving to something wrong :S
[05:55] <creazyrohila> how can i change shortcut combination in 11.10
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: bottom, in the session menu. have a look and you'll see it
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> mohwaqas12: no idea, I don't use lvm
[05:55] <creazyrohila> how can i change shortcut combination in 11.10
[05:55] <creazyrohila> how can i change shortcut combination in 11.10
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> !shortcut | creazyrohila
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> creazyrohila: please don't paste like taht
[05:55] <mohwaqas12> ActionParsnip: okay thank you anyway
[05:56] <tripelb> Well I am willing to try and download lubuntu... but what does this mean -uses LXDE as DE and Openbox as WM, --- and what is a "session menu"?  --- man I know nothing it seems.
[05:56] <tripelb> ActionParsnip, ^^^
[05:56] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: log out of the OS and click your username on the screen, then look at the bottom of the screen
[05:56] <creazyrohila> ActionParsnip, i want to change of trash shortcut i didn't find it there
[05:56] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: use eyes, its quite simple
[05:56] <ActionParsnip> creazyrohila: how do you mean?
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> creazyrohila: do you mean the icon?
[05:57] <creazyrohila> means super+t is the shortcut for trash
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> creazyrohila: is it set under keyboard prefs etc?
[05:57] <creazyrohila> ActionParsnip, i want it for terminal
[05:58] <ActionParsnip> creazyrohila: I guess it just run:  nautilus ~/.local/share/Trash
[05:58] <creazyrohila> and then ?
[05:59] <ActionParsnip> thats the trash folder...
[05:59] <ActionParsnip> so then nothing, the trash folder is loaded.
[05:59] <Jordan_U> tripelb: LUbuntu is the lightest option when it comes to Ubuntu. It will run the fastest on old hardware with low RAM. Completely separate from that though, be prepared for Ubuntu (any variant) to not work properly on their hardware. There is a chance (though probably pretty low at this point) that the graphics drivers available for their hardware will be bad enough that it's slower than Windows, and there could be bugs that in the worst case prevent ...
[05:59] <Jordan_U> ... Ubuntu from booting on their hardware at all (fairly low, but existant).
[06:00] <creazyrohila> ActionParsnip, there is a shortcut for trash already "Super+t"
[06:00] <creazyrohila> i want to disable it
[06:00] <jpmh> I need to be able to set "key bindings" under 10.04 I know how to do this.  How do I do this with 11.10?
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> creazyrohila: then go to the keyboard shortcuts app which ubottu outlined and set it to nothing
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> creazyrohila: never once before now did you mention you wanted to disable the shortcut
[06:01] <Jordan_U> tripelb: And if you're trying to get people to use Ubuntu be honest about these types of problems. If they find out from experience that it's not quite as perfect as it was advertised to them it could seriously put them off Ubuntu.
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> creazyrohila: try giving FULL details in future, makes things move along that little bit faster
[06:01] <tripelb> Jordan_U, so you are telling me that natty is more likely to work than lubuntu. -- these are not really old computers with low ram. these are normal windows systems. Which get buggy.
[06:01] <creazyrohila> ActionParsnip, i mentionsed that i want this "super+t" for terminal not for trash
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> creazyrohila: its in the keyboard layouts
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> !shortcuts
[06:02] <tripelb> !classic
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> creazyrohila: so search in dash for: key    and see what pops up
[06:02] <creazyrohila> no its not there
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSVrGoZTbdKVrCmnwNqIlworQSMRDgpYmnoeU7HTY_pa123KyCskGJo4UWS
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> creazyrohila: do you use terminal a lot?
[06:03] <creazyrohila> yeah
[06:03] <dannel> guake ftw
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> creazyrohila: have you tried guake?
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> dannel: ;)
[06:04] <creazyrohila> no
[06:04] <tripelb> ActionParsnip, I see what you are supposed to do. I'll try that with the liveCD. it's easier to just try it than talk. Thank you. I'vw now copied all your advice and that of Jordan_U also.. into a text file so I can look at it again. I appreciate it. Unity is like, "lets make this like an IPAD."
[06:04] <ActionParsnip> creazyrohila: it drops down from the top on a keypress you define, hides again with the same press
[06:04] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: np :)
[06:05] <victor__> Can someone help with a little problem? (Just need to be put in the right direction)
[06:05] <ActionParsnip> victor__: ask away
[06:05] <tripelb> ActionParsnip, but you never get that sign in box if you are on a live cd. but I might be bale to find the choice at the bottom.
[06:05] <tripelb> gotta go now all thanks.
[06:06] <victor__> Well I have Ubuntu 11.10, /home in one aditional partition than / and /boot, and all my music in /home/victor/Mùsica
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: you can log off though, then log in to the other session
[06:06] <victor__> Now my brother want's access to the music, but I dont want to duplicate files or moved
[06:07] <amagee> ok, issue resolved.. somehow the hostname was being resolved to the wrong IP address, so it wasn't an ssh problem at all
[06:07] <victor__> Is there a way to share my music folder?
[06:07] <amagee> thanks all for your help :)
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> victor__: make a group and add your user and his user to the group, then run: chown -R :groupname /home/victor/Mùsica
[06:07] <creazyrohila> ActionParsnip, can you tell about lenovo y510 speaker problem in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf
[06:08] <victor__> Nice, thanks
[06:08] <w30> !nounity
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> victor__: the users in groupname will then be able to access the data, note the semicolon is intentional
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> creazyrohila: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[06:09] <victor__> Ok, I'll try that, thank's Action
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> victor__: by default it is ONLY your user with access so the current access will be victor:victor   you can change it to victor:groupname   and give access to more users :)
[06:09]  * szal doesn't see a semicolon in the above line
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> szonek: look after -R ;)
[06:10] <szal> ActionParsnip: that's a colon ;)
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> szal: :P  yeah yeah
[06:10] <devsys> Quick question about doing a "do-release-upgrade" on a ubuntu 9.10 server... will I have the choice *NOT* to upgrade specific packages? Primarily, I am concerned that PHP will get upgraded which will break my environment badly at theis point in time. Is this possible during the upgrade?
[06:11] <ActionParsnip> devsys: you could pin the version, not sure how that is affecting in release changes though
[06:11] <woshisiren1980> hello
[06:13] <creazyrohila> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/gEy6wBTt
[06:13] <usr13> woshisiren1980: Yes, hello
[06:14] <usr13> woshisiren1980: Welcome to #ubuntu.  How can we help you.
[06:14] <devsys> ActionParsnip: let me ask you this -- is there a way to get a package that was on the 9.10 repo? I get 404's when trying to apr-get them presumable because support for 9.10 is over with
[06:14] <maum> how to go root?
[06:14] <devsys> maum: sudo -
[06:14] <sinisterstuf> maum, type: sudo -i
[06:15] <usr13> devsys: What version are you on now?
[06:15] <maum> ok thanks
[06:15] <devsys> 9.10 server
[06:15] <devsys> usr13:
[06:15] <Flannel> devsys: old-releases.ubuntu.com, but remember, that's no longer updated and has security vulnerabilities.  You really ought to upgrade to 10.04 (which is LTS)
[06:15] <usr13> maum: sudo -i
[06:16] <victor__> Hey Action, done th group the adduser and run the chown command, now, where does the folder would show up in the other account?
[06:16] <devsys> Flannel: thanks
[06:17] <mechbo> Hello :)
[06:17] <mechbo> Anybody here done an upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 recently ?
[06:17] <szal> victor__: it doesn't 'show up
[06:17] <szal> victor__: you have to look for it in the file system
[06:18] <dannel> mechbo, yes.. it went purrfectly
[06:18] <mechbo> nice, thanks\
[06:18] <szal> mechbo: most of us did that half a year ago, I suppose
[06:18] <mechbo> eah, but I heard some complaints back then\
[06:18] <mechbo> It keeps gnome desktop right ?
[06:19] <creazyrohila> anyone using lenovo ?
[06:19] <victor__> But my the folder /home/victor is encrypted, so he can get access to that, I run in his terminal ls /home/victor/Música but says it can't do it
[06:19] <lifelike27> Hello, I was wondering if anyone can help me with a ati radeon driver issue?
[06:20] <ActionParsnip> creazyrohila: what is your sound issue?
[06:20] <ActionParsnip> mechbo: if you have gnome desktop you will keep gnome, that doesn't change
[06:21] <creazyrohila> i have 4.1 speakers (4 speakers and 1 subwwoofer) , now only two are working
[06:21] <mechbo> danka
[06:21] <creazyrohila> my subwoofer not working
[06:21] <maum> I created new account on ubuntu but I cannot go root .it says that this account is not sudoers file.. what is this mean?
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> creazyrohila: does this help http://techspalace.blogspot.com/2009/01/lenovo-y510-surround-sound-in-ubuntu.html
[06:22] <dannel> maum, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> maum: you need to add the user to the admin group
[06:22] <samba35> what is tun and tap are ,i am bit confused about it .can u please explain
[06:22] <maum> ActionParsnip: how can I do this?
[06:22] <creazyrohila> ActionParsnip, i was working in 10.04
[06:23] <creazyrohila> ActionParsnip, now its not working
[06:23] <maum> ActionParsnip: how can I add the user to the admin group?
[06:23] <maum> ActionParsnip: I created the user by the command "adduser"
[06:24] <mechbo> Muam - see System -> users and groups, or edit .etc.groups
[06:24] <mechbo>  /etc/groups
[06:24] <Flannel> Don't edit /etc/groups.  `sudo adduser username admin`
[06:25] <makara> hi. why would I enable virtualization in the BIOS?
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> maum: log in as a user whom can use sudo then you can run:  sudo usermod -a -G admin name         or Flannel's way will work too
[06:25] <devsys> Thanks again Flannel you got me going in the right direction and I al good to go now
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> makara: 64bit guests
[06:25] <devsys> s/al/all
[06:25] <makara> guests?
[06:26] <ActionParsnip> makara: guest systems
[06:26] <makara> i don't understand
[06:26] <dannel> makara, if you run an OS inside your OS, e.g. virtualbox/vmware/qemu
[06:26] <ActionParsnip> makara: the system itself is the host, if you enable vitualization in the BIOS your virtual systems (the guests) can be 64bit
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> makara: some CPUs don't support 64bit guests as it needs special instructions, even if the cpu itself is 64bit
[06:27] <makara> so WinXP 32bit in virtualbox is OK, but if I want Fedora i686 I need to enable?
[06:28] <lifelike27> Can anyone direct me to a place I can get help with ati graphics problem at least?
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> makara: both are 32bit, so need nothi9ng special
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> makara: if you wanted a virtual Fedora 64bit, then you would need the extra virtualization stuffs in yout cpu
[06:29] <creazyrohila> ActionParsnip, can you figure that out?
[06:29] <ActionParsnip> creazyrohila: my sound troubleshooting is prety poor, sorry
[06:29] <creazyrohila> okay :)
[06:30] <dannel> ActionParsnip, they don't have a benefit even if using 32-bit? I thought they improved performance with nested paging etc
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> dannel: if its a 32bit OS, it wil only use the abilities in the OS, it des't magically gain abilities
[06:31] <dannel> i see
[06:36] <tweet> I have been trying to install ice 3.4.2 on Oneiric.. one of  their libs is missing  - rather they have a diff version at the given path.. can this be fixed somehow?
[06:39] <tweet> I have been trying to install ice 3.4.2 on Oneiric.. one of  their libs is missing  - rather they have a diff version at the given path.. can this be fixed somehow?
[06:40] <maum> I deleted account by the command "deluser --remove-all-files cool" and when I was trying to re-create same account, I couldn't create account. do you have any idea?
[06:41] <usr13> maum: Why are you deleting and re-creating the same account?
[06:42] <usr13> maum: If we know exactly what your end goal is, we can help you better.
[06:42] <maum> because I didn't create admin account so I deleted it and tried to recreate same account
[06:42] <tweet> any help on the installation failure issue ?
[06:42] <maum> by the command "sudo adduser cool admin"
[06:42] <usr13> maum: You always need an admin account, without it you have problems.
[06:43] <maum> usr13: I know so I am trying to do this in the admin account
[06:44] <usr13> maum: So just create the account first.
[06:45] <maum> I couldn't create same account . I deleted it by the command " deluser --remove-all-files cool"
[06:45] <maum> recreate
[06:46] <usr13> maum: I still do not understand why you deleted the user account in the first place.  Can you tell me that?
[06:47] <iToast> sdt
[06:47] <iToast> YAYZ
[06:49] <maum> usr13: I solved my problem . thanks
[06:53] <Tamazula> Hello, hi, is it normal that mi procesor is runing at 60c+ temps?
[06:54] <rumpe1> Tamazula, yes
[06:54] <Tamazula> even if iddle?
[06:55] <Tamazula> its a laptop
[06:55] <bingo1> dot
[06:56] <rumpe1> Tamazula, i would say yes, but it's hard to say without knowing the specs.
[06:56] <Samoi> anyone have a thinkpad x220? I'm thinking of getting one and wonder what the battery life is like under Ubuntu?
[06:56] <bingo1>  google
[06:57] <A|i3N> weird question but I'm sure some of you have a need for this occasionally - easy to use video remastering? ie taking a youtube video and simply changing the framerate so it doesn't throw a copyright flag, and saving it back to it's original MP4 format
[06:58] <A|i3N> i was gonna use pitivi but didn't look like it supported mp4 output
[06:58] <Tamazula> hmmm, its an AMD Athlon II X2 P340
[07:01] <tweet> exit
[07:03] <Scott_S> A|i3N: You could try using a video encoding program (e.g. HandBrake) to simply re-encode the video at a different framerate.
[07:03] <A|i3N> Scott_S: Yea I just thought of that and used transmageddon. Let's see if Youtube catches it as copyright and mutes the sound now. lol.
[07:04] <A|i3N> I'm doing an experiment with foreign youtube music vids. The (teaser) one I uploaded from japan is steadily getting good hits and there's not even sound on it lol.
[07:05] <bingo1> Headache .. is there any Chinese
[07:05] <A|i3N> aaaaaaannnnnnnd........... still caught and muted. LOL. I Guess I'll have to try something else. :)
[07:06] <dannel> I heard flipping the video horizontally bypasses detection
[07:06] <neronin> I have a weird problem, My wireless card get my eth0's mac address in my router, has anyone seen this problem before? Im using ubuntu 11.10
[07:06] <bingo1> 我了个去啊
[07:08] <bingo1> :'(
[07:08] <Jordan_U> !cn | bingo1
[07:09] <bingo1> 3Q
[07:17] <anli_> How do I remove stale file operations in nautilus?
[07:18] <anli_> If I click the stop button during a file operation, I will be cursed, it seems
[07:19] <dannel> killall -9 nautilus is my heavy-handed solution :s
[07:19] <andyn> is there an alternative to system-config-kickstart, if i only need to automatically add certain repos and packages, remove some, and change configuration files?
[07:19] <anli_> dannel: But isnt nautilus storing those file operations anywhere? I think restarting does not help
[07:19] <greylurk> I'm trying to compile a third party kernel module, but it's makefile says linux/autoconf.h is missing  Any idea which package that might be available in?
[07:20] <greylurk> *its
[07:23] <greylurk> Do I need to build a kernel from source to get my autoconf.h?
[07:24] <andyn> no, that's definitely a header file not related with the built binaries
[07:25] <andyn> i'd try installing a linux-headers-something or a related package
[07:25] <greylurk> Well, it's not showing up in /usr/src/linux-headers-3.0.0.14
[07:27] <andyn> i'm not sure if this is related: https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=38584
[07:28] <Jumex> hello, im having troubke intrpretting interpreting lm-sensors info  i shows 3 devices:  1) acpitz-virtual-0   2) jc42-i2c-0-19 Adapter: SMBus PIIX4 adapter at 0b00  3)k10temp-pci-00c3 Adapter: PCI adapter
[07:28] <Jumex> what are they referin to?
[07:31] <greylurk> Thanks andyn, that seems to help a bit.
[07:36] <Jumex> hello, im having troubke intrpretting interpreting lm-sensors info  i shows 3 devices:  1) acpitz-virtual-0   2) jc42-i2c-0-19 Adapter: SMBus PIIX4 adapter at 0b00  3)k10temp-pci-00c3 Adapter: PCI adapter
[07:36] <Jumex> what are they?
[07:37] <ikonia> Jumex: temperature probes on your motherboard
[07:38] <Jumex> yeah but, wich is wich?, im confused : (
[07:38] <ikonia> Jumex: your motherboard manual should detail what they are
[07:40] <dannel> I think 2 is southbridge temperature, 3 cpu temperature
[07:40] <ikonia> that would seem reasonable, but the manual will detail for sure
[07:40] <Jumex> south brige? whats that?
[07:41] <Jhodges> hi all
[07:41] <Jumex> i also think #3 is cpu, its the higest at 60c+
[07:41] <ikonia> Jumex: you'll need to research your hardware a little to better understand it
[07:41] <xTyrael> hi guys can anyone help me with Blender and tell me why it wont start ?
[07:42] <Guest81735> \name
[07:43] <Jumex> you think so?
[07:43] <ikonia> Jumex: yes
[07:45] <dagerik> I am trying out a new desktop environment called awsomewm. Now I cannot change the display resolution size in gnome-control-center-
[07:45] <Jumex> well, ive been looking allover theintert for info because i think im having an overheat issue. i just wanted to know if somenoe would helo me interpret my lm-sensors report.
[07:45] <ikonia> dagerik: possibly because gnome-control-center controls gnome, not awsomewm
[07:46] <siloxid> how do I disable "Hard Disk Problems Detected" dialogs? they pop up every 30 minutes
[07:46] <ikonia> Jumex: we won't be able to as we don't know your sensors, that's why getting them out of the motherboard manual is the best first step
[07:47] <dagerik> ikonia: How can I find out which program is controlling the resolution?
[07:48] <Jumex> any help in finding out my motherboard number or serial number?
[07:48] <ikonia> dagerik: I've never used that window manager, so I don't know
[07:48] <ikonia> Jumex: dmidecode
[07:48] <fairuz> I installed Gnome on my 11.10 but when I logged in, the graphics seems out of place. Texts are missing some characters. What would be the reason?
[07:49] <Jumex> # dmidecode 2.9 /dev/mem: Permission denied
[07:49] <ikonia> Jumex: use sudo
[07:49] <Jumex> im sorry im new to all of this
[07:50] <ikonia> Jumex: there are few guides to setting up lmsensors on the web, seen any?
[07:50] <Jumex> yeah i have lm-sensors installed and everything
[07:51] <xTyrael> someone can help me with this blender prog?
[07:51] <siloxid> xTyrael: blender?  how about #blender?
[07:52] <ikonia> Jumex: yes, but it tells you how to set it up and work out the sensors etc, there are some good ones online
[07:58] <fidel> hi
[07:58] <fidel> i removed the packages related for the global menu in 11.10 - which works pretty good for most apps - but not for thunderbird & firefox
[07:59] <fidel> any idea how to enable the old in-app-menu for those 2 apps?
[07:59] <OneArmedNoodler> Hey, I have a dumb question...
[07:59] <OneArmedNoodler> If I want to move my home folder to a different drive do I just create /home on the drive and mount it in /media?
[08:00] <ok_wait> you need to edit your /etc/fstab file for it
[08:00] <ok_wait> you'd want to copy your current /home contents to the new drive first thought
[08:00] <SunTsu> OneArmedNoodler: no need for creating any special directory on it, just create a filesystem, mount it anywhere, move your stuff and then change your fstab to mount your newly created filesystem to /home
[08:01] <OneArmedNoodler> Cool, thanks!
[08:01] <fidel> regarding FF&TB - addons/extensions -> solved
[08:02] <SunTsu> OneArmedNoodler: After doing all that unmount your new filesystem and try using "mount -a" to see if everything is working as planned
[08:02] <hussainsavani> Hey
[08:07] <zakkotron> hey did anyone made chat integration in ubuntu 11.10
[08:08] <Kartagis> hello
[08:08] <Kartagis> I have a problem
[08:08] <fidel> zakkotron: what do you mean with "chat integration"?
[08:10] <dagerik> Changes do not persist when I edit a setting in gnome-control-center. E.g. when I change the screensaver to "never", it goes back to "10 mins" when I go back and check again.
[08:10] <Kartagis> from time to time, my computer freezes, and my menus become transparent, with only the borders seen. what I'm talking about can be seen at http://people.sabanciuniv.edu/mtozses/menu.jpg
[08:11] <Kartagis> then I have to reboot the computer
[08:11] <Kartagis> what's wrong?
[08:12] <zakkotron> fidel:well to hav an widget that will pop up if someone sends me a chat message and if i want to write something i can write without maximizing the application
[08:13] <fidel> zakkotron: and chat menas for you what? jabber,x,y?
[08:13] <urlin2u> jOpBnaZvsN
[08:15] <zakkotron> fidel:chat includes facebook or irc chat
[08:17] <hugodidier> Hola!
[08:17] <hugodidier> buenas noches chicos
[08:17] <SunTsu> !es | hugodidier
[08:19] <zakkotron> fidel:????
[08:20] <hbars> tell me what that is, from http to rarely used by xinetd? Simple script some.
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> Hbars: what what is?
[08:21] <hugodidier> no bueno sólo quería platicar no se moleste if not then I speak English no problem
[08:21] <hugodidier> SunTsu:
[08:22] <hugodidier> ubottu:
[08:22] <fidel> hugodidier: thats a bot
[08:22] <fidel> and this is an english channel ;)
[08:22] <SunTsu> as the bot already explained
[08:22] <hbars> ActionParsnip: http by xinetd. i don offten use it
[08:24] <zakkotron> fidel:is there something that u cant understand
[08:24] <hbars> ActionParsnip: I do not need threads. sometimes simply to give the file.
[08:25] <fidel> zakkotron: please ask the channel about your chat-question - dont focus on single users
[08:25] <Vintcf> Is there any Ubuntu tablet available? I currently use an iPad 2 and love it, but I haven't found any Ubuntu alternatives.
[08:25] <fidel> i was just trying to help pointing out what you are really asking for
[08:26] <Kartagis> Vintcf: I don't think so
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> Vintcf: system76 may do one. I believe omgubuntu reviewed one a while back
[08:27] <kuku> hello
[08:27] <hugodidier> annoying the Spanish to English?
[08:29] <kuku> hi  i found in ubuntu website it says 32 bit download is recommended . Why?  64 bits version is not recommended?
[08:29] <hugodidier> never
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> Vintcf: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/T101MT
[08:30] <emres> i love when im using nikita nicknam and already 2 idiots pming me hahah IM BOY find a girlirl noobs
[08:30] <ikonia> emres: ok keep your comments to yourself
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> Kuku: some 3rd parties still only support 32bit. Also 32bit will run on both 64bit and 32bit CPU
[08:31] <emres> ikonia: go play tetris
[08:31] <hugodidier> fucking
[08:31] <ikonia> hugodidier: tone it down please, uncalled for
[08:31] <ikonia> emres: please keep in mind, this channel is for ubuntu support, not your personal insults to people or discussion on who pm's you
[08:31] <super124> Hello there's some french lubuntu user for help me please ? ^^
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> !fr
[08:32] <ikonia> super124: more luck in #lubuntu or #ubuntu-fr
[08:32] <emres> ikonia: >>> tetris << peace
[08:32] <super124> thx
[08:32] <ikonia> emres: PLEASE listen to what I'm saying, ubuntu discussion only in this channel
[08:32] <kuku> ActionParsnip:  My box is 64 bits with 16GB ram. It is suited for 64bits. So do you think i will get benefit with installing 64 bit version?
[08:33] <emres> ikonia:  go play frozen bubbles thna its ubuntu game peace man g'day
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> Kuku: absolutely. You should use 64bit
[08:33] <hugodidier>  ikonia: y si no que?
[08:33] <SunTsu> kuku: yes
[08:34] <SunTsu> kuku: > 4GB RAM you're likely to benefit from 64Bit, the more ram the more benefit
[08:34] <hugodidier> and if not that?
[08:34] <ikonia> hugodidier: pardon ?
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> Kuku: i doubt you'll need swap. What do you use the system for?
[08:35] <kuku> actionParsnip: great I guess that the 64 bit will be stable enough even though  it does not say recommended
[08:35] <hugodidier> ikonia: se dice scuseme
[08:35] <super124> someone can help me with a sound problem please ^ ^
[08:35] <ikonia> hugodidier: I'm sorry, I don't understand what you are saying
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> Kuku: not so much more stable, your ram will be seen as one lump rather than many 4gb lumps.
[08:36] <Learner> hi!, is it sae to enable "ClockGating" "ForceLowPowerMode" & "DynamicPM" on 11.10? (radeon open source driver power management)
[08:36] <hugodidier> ikonia: How old are you?
[08:36] <ikonia> hugodidier: that doesn't matter,
[08:37] <kuku> ActionParsnip: the box is connected with several hard drives. I have the system with Win for game box. I am trying here with ubuntu with other hard drive
[08:37] <ikonia> hugodidier: check the topic of the channel, ubuntu discusssion, are you in the right channel ?
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> Kuku: 16gb is a lot of ram, or is it a server?
[08:38] <emres> love u ikonia .
[08:38] <hugodidier> ikonia: why not?
[08:38] <kuku> ActionParsnip: no it is not a server. it a desktop i have i7 core proc
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> Kuku: i can recommend penumbra and urbanterror if you like games :-)
[08:39] <kuku> ActiobParsnip: thanks bro. i will check them out :-)
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> Penumbra Overture scared the bejesus out of me
[08:40] <hugodidier> ikonia: but I love you not be angry
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> Its not free in any way but worth it
[08:40] <ikonia> hugodidier: enough now
[08:40] <Gskellig> can I use alien to install an i386 package on a x64 system?
[08:40] <Learner> lol me two!!! i shat mi chair D :
[08:40] <ikonia> Gskellig: very much not
[08:40] <Learner> is it sae to enable "ClockGating" "ForceLowPowerMode" & "DynamicPM" on 11.10? (radeon open source driver power management)
[08:40] <ikonia> Gskellig: different architechture and different OS - %100 do not do
[08:40] <emres> how telling i love is abuse of some sort?
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> Gskellig: if both are debs you don't need alien
[08:41] <Gskellig> ActionParsnip, can only find a i386 rpm
[08:41] <Gskellig> fairly new software too
[08:41] <hugodidier>  ikonia: if it happens?
[08:41] <Gskellig> 2010
[08:41] <emres> aline is for rmp
[08:41] <emres> alien*
[08:41] <ikonia> emres: final warning - stop
[08:41] <emres> rpm*
[08:42] <Gskellig> just weird that they don't have a x64 solution
[08:42] <Gskellig> http://www.bitpim.org/#download-devel
[08:42] <ikonia> Gskellig: they appear to not have an ubuntu solution either, so again, strongly advise you against trying to uise it
[08:42] <emres> how i can install programs at ubuntu ? i downloaded firefox exe dubble click asnd dont works ?
[08:43] <Gskellig> at least if they had an x64 i could TRY
[08:43] <super124> emres,  are u serious ?
[08:43] <conntrack> Anyone having connectivity issues?
[08:43] <emres> same like rooting on irc super124
[08:44] <hugodidier> ikonia sleeping...
[08:44] <ikonia> emres: stop now.
[08:44] <roscog> yo.  must one make an effort to get updates in ubuntu?  like compile all the repositories?
[08:44] <emres> oki i will ikonia
[08:44] <ikonia> roscog: you don't need to compile anything
[08:44] <ikonia> emres: thank you
[08:44] <fouda> Hello, Anyone willing to spare 2 minutes to help a noob out? :)
[08:44] <ikonia> roscog: when updates are available, update manager will offer you updates
[08:44] <ikonia> fouda: if you ask a question people will try to help
[08:44] <DoctorBaconite> what do you need help with?
[08:44] <Guest47801> metasploit
[08:45] <bullgard4> !ask | fouda
[08:45] <Guest47801> k
[08:45] <Guest47801> k
[08:45] <dagerik> When I edit a change in screen settings in gnome-control-center, the change does not persist. What is this? The damn screensavers keeps popping up when I watch movies.
[08:45] <Guest47801> kl;k;'lp;
[08:45] <Guest47801> kp
[08:45] <FloodBot1> Guest47801: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:45] <Guest47801> k
[08:45] <fouda> Cool, will do
[08:45] <emres> roscog: sudo aptitude update&& sudo aptitude upgrade
[08:45] <emres> or apt-get
[08:47] <Learner> is it sae to enable "ClockGating" "ForceLowPowerMode" & "DynamicPM" on 11.10? (radeon open source driver power management)????
[08:47] <roscog> emres: thank you.  i'm using mint now but i must keep reinstalling to get their support and updates.  does ubuntu only support the latest versions as well?
[08:47] <dagerik> Learner: Are you talking to me?
[08:47] <emres> not rly the lts got long time support
[08:48] <Guest47801> deo hieu
[08:48] <Learner> tnot you especificaly. o.o, anyone who can help
[08:48] <fouda> Using Acer Travelmate 4050 & Ubuntu 10.04 LTS netbook. installation went smooth, normal boot ends in black screen with no activity. Boots in Recovery Mode. Here's my system Specs http://freetexthost.com/xpgzvoik20
[08:48] <emres> roscog:  just upgrade to 11.10 it will do no porblems
[08:48] <hugodidier> buuu you are boring
[08:48] <emres> u dotn need to reinstall
[08:48] <ikonia> hugodidier: stop it now - or you will end up getting banned
[08:48] <hugodidier> ikonia
[08:48] <ikonia> hugodidier: topic of the channel is ubuntu support discussion, you are welcome to use the channel for that
[08:48] <hugodidier> fuckme
[08:49] <emres> indeed fuck u
[08:49] <emres> sorry
[08:51] <fouda> (DoctorBaconite) again Using Acer Travelmate 4050 & Ubuntu 10.04 LTS netbook. installation went smooth, normal boot ends in black screen with no activity. Boots in Recovery Mode fine. Here's my system Specs http://freetexthost.com/xpgzvoik20
[08:53] <nikita> not nice if u ban me again i jsut use proxy so gtfo ikoniai say sorry
[08:53] <dagerik> Screen dialog in gnome-control-center will not remember settings.
[08:54] <topata> tired already ikonia ?
[08:55] <dagerik> I cannot believe this is happening. After 10 years of ubuntu, there exists such silly errors as not remembering settings.
[08:57] <dagerik> The shutdown button does not shutdown my pc. I have to do the shutdown process twice.
[09:01] <mysterty> Bonjour, je me demandais pourquoi quand on ajoute un nouveau dépôt dans synaptique, on a souvent une erreur GPG qui demande une public key ?
[09:01] <ikonia> !fr | mysterty
[09:02] <mysterty> il y a pas un moyen ou un logiciel qui la demande automatiquement quand on ajoute un dépôt ? ça devrait pas être compliqué ?
[09:02] <mysterty> ikonia, ho, sorry, my bad !
[09:02] <ikonia> mysterty: it's not a problem at all
[09:02] <ikonia> mysterty: I only gave that factoid as it makes it clear in French, most people who ask in French in the channel don't speak good english
[09:03] <almoxarife> mysterty: consider installing why-ppa-manager for automating pgp key installing
[09:03] <almoxarife> mysterty: Y-ppa-manager
[09:03] <mysterty> ikonia, yes, but i had the french channel openned, i just clicked on the wrong one :p
[09:03] <ikonia> mysterty: ahh, its not a problem
[09:03] <mysterty> almoxarife, thancks you, i will check it ;)
[09:04] <almoxarife> mysterty: :)
[09:04] <g0tcha> hey guys, can anyone help me out or direct me to the right direction to create a simple VPN on my ubuntu desktop so i can access my home network from work?
[09:05] <g0tcha> it doesnt have to be secure, i just want to run it for an hour and be able to access local machines on my home network
[09:05] <ikonia> !vpn | g0tcha
[09:06] <zabomber> g0tcha: google PPTPD VPN Server +Ubuntu
[09:06] <zabomber> its so straight forward
[09:06] <zabomber> install
[09:06] <Northwoods> how can i attach a file extention with eclipse as default
[09:07] <Northwoods> like i want to attach .php with eclipse in ubuntu 11.10
[09:07] <stroxis> is there any way to run ubuntu-bug in terminal without gui?
[09:07] <Learner> hi, can anybody help me set the power mode of my radeon video card on the open source driver? i got really confused with the totorial online and i dont want to mess up.
[09:07] <g0tcha> thanks zabomber, ill google that
[09:07] <g0tcha> ikonia, thank but that doesnt explain much for someone who never ran a VPN server before
[09:08] <Northwoods> like i want to attach .php with eclipse in ubuntu 11.10
[09:08] <ikonia> g0tcha: that used to be a good url, hang on
[09:08] <dean[w]> Morning. I used to run my copy of ubuntu in raid-0 across two raptor drives. I installed my OS to a new drive yesterday (fresh install) and then plugged the two hard-drives back in that were in raid but when i try and access "it" now the hard-drive shows up as "Array" and when i double click it it says "Unable to mount location. Unable to mount file"
[09:08] <dean[w]> I'd like to get some files off the old raid setup, how can I do this?
[09:08] <g0tcha> ikonia, it is usefull on how to quickly install it, but doesnt explain or talk on how to set it up and run it for example
[09:09] <ikonia> g0tcha: you want to set up a vpn server
[09:09] <Northwoods> like i want to attach .php with eclipse in ubuntu 11.10
[09:10] <Northwoods> i mean default program , i dont see eclipse in the list of programs to attach with ?
[09:10] <dagerik> I have 11.10, how can I revert back to last LTS?
[09:10] <g0tcha> ikonia, yeah, at home, so i can access it from my office
[09:10] <somsip> dagerik: reinstall is your only real option
[09:10] <bazhang> dagerik, full reinstall
[09:10] <Northwoods> anyone can help me ?
[09:10] <ikonia> g0tcha: look up "openvpn" it's an open vpn server, it used to be "average" but from what I can gather it's come on quite a lot
[09:11] <Delaya> anyone know how to skip to the end of the reverse search in terminal?
[09:12] <dagerik> The partitioning I have now is really nice, with win7 on one and ubuntu on  the other etc. Will an install of 10.04 preserves this nice partitioning?
[09:13] <g0tcha> thanks ikonia, ill look that up
[09:13] <ikonia> g0tcha: I've not used it for a long long time as most  network devices come with vpn servers built in, but notes suggest it has moved on well
[09:14] <Learner> dagerik, yes, just make shure you reinstall ubuntu on the on the current ubuntu partition.
[09:15] <hyunjun> hello everyone!
[09:17] <Northwoods> when i want to add eclipse to default program for .php extensions in ubuntu , i dont see eclipse in the list
[09:17] <Northwoods> Can any one help
[09:19] <fouda> DoctorBaconite: anything ?
[09:19] <fouda> @DoctorBaconite: anything ?
[09:20] <stroxis> is there any way to run ubuntu-bug without gui
[09:20] <stroxis> like in linux mint
[09:20] <fouda> Northwoods ; right click the file, properties, Open With tab, select program
[09:23] <conntrack> My net has always been so stable. The boot is on the other foot now :(
[09:23] <Northwoods> fouda, But eclipse doesn't appear in the Open With tab list
[09:25] <fouda> Northwoods ; press Add and find the application
[09:26] <Northwoods> fouda, thats what i'm saying , i cannot press add
[09:26] <Northwoods> its greyed out , when i select an application from OTHER APPLICATION section , that is when i can use ADD buttton
[09:27] <Northwoods> but eclipse isn't listed in the OTHER APPLICATION list as well
[09:27] <Northwoods> fouda, ^
[09:28] <Learner> hi, could somebody please facilitate the comand to enable low power mode on the readeon open soruce driver, im going nuts looking for it : (, im just a nub
[09:32] <fouda> Northwoods ; that's weird...sorry man, i'm out on that one
[09:35] <almoxarife> Northwoods: look at making an entry or change to /etc/gnome/default.list
[09:35] <Northwoods> let me check
[09:37] <fernando> hello
[09:37] <Northwoods> almoxarife, file doesn't exists , i'm using 11.10
[09:37] <spexi> Hi! I have program noip2 located in /usr/local/bin, and I would like it to be started on boot, so it would start even if no-one logs in. So, what to do? I have no idea, what to write and in what file? Using Ubuntu 10.04.
[09:37] <almoxarife> Northwoods: so am I, exists here
[09:37] <Guest83832> peers
[09:38] <Guest83832> i need elp
[09:38] <Guest83832> with xubuntu
[09:38] <fernandopolis> please
[09:39] <bazhang> fernandopolis, whats the actual question
[09:40] <fernandopolis> bazhang, options need to handle two monitors
[09:40] <bazhang> fernandopolis, such as xrandr ?
[09:42] <fernandopolis> bazhang,
[09:42] <fernandopolis> was investigated with nvidia, but no options here in xubuntu
[09:42] <fernandopolis> ?
[09:43] <Northwoods> almoxarife, sorry, i found the file, but its blank
[09:43] <Northwoods> what entry needs to be done ?
[09:50] <GhostWolf> hey i been trying to look for a chatter that helped me here i believe his nick is/was webnet, does anyone know when he'll be back?
[09:51] <spexi> Could anyone help me, how to start programs on boot before login?
[09:51] <bindi> spexi: /etc/rc.local
[09:52] <Moshanator> Hi, what's the best way to find out why a package is outdated?
[09:52] <Moshanator> in my case, precise ships valac 0.14 when 0.16 exists
[09:52] <spexi> bindi: So do I just add there line /usr/local/bin/noip2 (which is the program) before line exit 0
[09:52] <bindi> spexi: yup
[09:53] <spexi> And should I do something else that the change takes effect
[09:53] <bindi> nope
[09:53] <spexi> ok, thanks :)
[09:54] <ubuntu-for-me> join #ubuntu-cn
[09:54] <sparr> This may be an Ubuntu, Gtk, or Wx bug. I am seeing multiple Wx-based apps die at the same time with the following assertion: Gtk:ERROR:/build/buildd/gtk+2.0-2.24.6/gtk/gtkfilesystemmodel.c:746:gtk_file_system_model_sort: assertion failed: (r == n_visible_rows)
[09:58] <bobweaver> what is up with wiki.ubuntu.com ?????
[09:58] <researcher123> where to find list of channels?
[09:59] <bobweaver> NM I was wondering what wasd up with wiki.ubuntu.org
[09:59] <bobweaver> sorry
[10:00] <bobweaver> . An attacker on your network could be trying to get you to visit a fake (and potentially harmful) version of wiki.ubuntu.org. You should not proceed.
[10:01] <bobweaver> http://imagebin.org/189489
[10:03] <jutnux> Don't worry bobweaver
[10:03] <jutnux> Just continue anyway
[10:03] <bobweaver> sure buddy
[10:03] <bobweaver> I have seen that On my firewall and what not
[10:03] <bobweaver> but not with wiki.ubuntu.org
[10:04] <bobweaver> I did go to the site in vbox and it has nothing to do with ubuntu
[10:04] <head_victim> bobweaver: wiki.ubuntu.com is the real address, not sure about that .org one
[10:05] <bobweaver> head_victim:  thanks yes I seen that it is 4am hear still a little tired :D
[10:05] <head_victim> bobweaver: no worries
[10:06] <bobweaver> but still that is kinda messed up  I enumerated the server and it goes back to a ubuntu server so ....
[10:06] <siloxid> how do I log into gnome and ratpoison from the lightdm or whatever it's called?
[10:07] <deej1976> siloxid: have you installed them?
[10:08] <siloxid> yes
[10:09] <deej1976> siloxid, at the login screen enter your userid then before entering your password select your session
[10:10] <bullgard4> Should GNOME bugs be directed to bugzilla?
[10:11] <theadmin> bullgard4: Not if they are ubuntu-only
[10:11] <bullgard4> theadmin: I found a bug that is not ubuntu-only.
[10:11] <theadmin> bullgard4: Then yeah, to the GNOME team's bug place
[10:11] <hyunjun> what's this?
[10:12] <bullgard4> theadmin: What do you mean by "the GNOME team's bug place"? I have never heard such a word before.
[10:14] <theadmin> bullgard4: Whatever Gnome people use to track their bugs? I dunno, let me search.
[10:14] <theadmin> bullgard4: Yeah, the bugzilla
[10:15] <e01> my indicator-complete in the panel stop showing the tray icons, is it possible to get it back working?
[10:15] <bullgard4> theadmin: Thank you very much for commenting and your help.
[10:17] <majormeng> ...
[10:29] <kubanc> Anyone having problems with ati radeon rc410 xpres 200 graohic card in ubuntu 10.04? the screen is working very slow? Can this be solwed with open source drivers?
[10:32] <jutnux> kubanc: Do you have the drivers installed?
[10:32] <kubanc> jutnux, how can i see that?
[10:33] <jutnux> System -> Advanced Drivers I think.
[10:33] <Pessimist> kubanc: xpress 200 drivers should be installed by default (opensource ones). Try updating
[10:33] <kubanc> Pessimist, already doing this with commands sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa and sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:39] <kubanc> Pessimist, still slow
[10:41] <kubanc> how do i replace compiz with metacity?
[10:42] <Scott_S> kubanc: Simply install metacity and type in "metacity --replace &" into the console.
[10:45] <kubanc> Scott_S, Even if i would like to user metacity as default?
[10:45] <Scott_S> I am unsure of that, searching atm.
[10:45] <theadmin> kubanc: Then add "metacity --replace" to your startup apps
[10:45] <Gorilla_No_Baka> hello lads
[10:46] <Gorilla_No_Baka> i am trying to install the following debs on my 10.04 ... no dice.. any ideas ?  bcm5974-dkms_1.1.7-maverick-mactel1_all.deb ,hid-dkms_1.1.2~utouch1_all.deb
[10:46] <Gorilla_No_Baka> xf86-input-multitouch_1.0~rc2-mactel2_amd64.deb,xserver-xorg-input-synaptics_1.2.2-2ubuntu5-mactel1_amd64.deb
[10:47] <Scott_S> Gorilla_No_Baka: What issues are you having installing them>
[10:47] <Gorilla_No_Baka> all sorts of.. apparently they are not designed for 10.04
[10:47] <Gorilla_No_Baka> dependencies issues
[10:47] <theadmin> Gorilla_No_Baka: Um, they're for maverick it seems... 10.04 is Lucid
[10:47] <jutnux> Then they aren't designed for 10.04
[10:48] <Scott_S> Gorilla_No_Baka: Then you can't do it. Install the newer or older versions for Maverick.
[10:48] <theadmin> Gorilla_No_Baka: Y U NO SEARCH REPOS for what you want?
[10:48] <Pessimist> Gorilla_No_Baka: Here you go: sudo apt-get install <package name>, apt-cache search <package name> // Search
[10:48] <Gorilla_No_Baka> theadmin:  hw do you think i was able to wget them?
[10:48] <theadmin> Gorilla_No_Baka: Then just apt-get them if they are in Ubuntu repos -_-
[10:48] <Gorilla_No_Baka> Pessimist:  i do not wanna be pessimist but it is not working
[10:49] <Scott_S> Gorilla_No_Baka: When installing apps/etc, just sudo apt-get install them. This will install the version for your distro.
[10:49] <Pessimist> Gorilla_No_Baka: Then there are no packages in your 10.04 repositories, so I suggest you downgrade or upgrade Ubuntu to that version, which you have those packages for
[10:49] <Pessimist> no packages, which you need*
[10:50] <Pessimist> usually it is better to upgrade
[10:51] <theadmin> jutnux: *poke*
[11:05] <mah454> I need minimal LiveCD with support LVM Partitions . (Less then 50M size)
[11:05] <ServerSage> So I'm about to do an upgrade on my home server.  I'm going from an old Athlon 64 x2 to a shiny new(er) Phenom X4.  The system is running Ubuntu 11.04.  Is there anything other than a routine backup I need to do?  Or can I just swap in the new cpu/board/ram and everything will just work?
[11:05] <ikonia> mah454: there isn't an ubuntu one
[11:06] <ikonia> ServerSage: ubuntu is modular, so if the hardware is supported it should just auto detect and upadate the changes
[11:06] <mah454> ikonia, I only need linux liveCD .
[11:06] <ikonia> ServerSage: the only difference is the video cards, if you are using nvidia/ati they will probably need re-configuing
[11:06] <ikonia> mah454: there isn't an ubuntu livecd bellow 50mb with lvm support
[11:07] <mah454> ikonia, search in all distro
[11:07] <ServerSage> ikonia: It's a headless server, so no video issues really.  Anything special about software RAID when doing the swap?  I have two mirrored software RAIDS, one for boot and one for storage.
[11:08] <ikonia> mah454: this channel supports ubuntu only
[11:08] <Scott_S> Serversage: Changing the motherboard or the video card -can- cause issues. The RAID might be an issue, although I haven't played with RAID tbh so someone else will have to answer for that.
[11:08] <ikonia> ServerSage: if the physical disks are the same you shouldn't see a problem, however, you may have to boot in a degraded raid state and re-add the additional disk
[11:08] <ikonia> ServerSage: I assume this is a raid1 mirror
[11:09] <ServerSage> ikonia: Yup, mirrors both of them.  I can handle that.  Doesn't sound too scary so far.
[11:10] <ServerSage> This system has been running on the same install for like 5 years, with reboots only to perform ubuntu upgrades.  I'd hate to have to start from scratch.  Hehe.
[11:11] <Scott_S> ServerSage: I don't think there's too much of an issue then. You should be able to swap the parts without running into issues. Just make sure you plug the HDDs into the same ports on the new mobo.
[11:11] <psychoticmeow> Hi, I've got a strange problem with my dual monitor setup, see this photo: http://173.255.197.231/photos/gnome-3-dual-monitor-offset.jpg
[11:11] <ServerSage> Scott_S: Super.  Good point.  :)
[11:12] <psychoticmeow> Basically, part of the the left hand screen is visible on the right hand screen. And there's an extra pixel from nowhere at the top of the right hand screen
[11:12] <psychoticmeow> Any clue as to how I can fix it?
[11:13] <ikonia> ServerSage: shouldn't be a big deal
[11:14] <Scott_S> ServerSage: Good thing you're not running a Windows setup. :3 Or else you'd run into a whole plethora of issues.
[11:14] <ucenik33> ds
[11:14] <ucenik33> dssdsd
[11:14] <ServerSage> ikonia: Thats what I was hoping to hear.
[11:14] <ucenik33> ds
[11:14] <ucenik33> sdgasdgag
[11:14] <ucenik33> rade
[11:14] <Scott_S> ucenik33: Please do not spam.
[11:14] <ucenik33> ar
[11:14] <ikonia> ServerSage: the disks are identified by uuid so where you plug them in shouldn't matter
[11:14] <ucenik33> rrraaddee
[11:14] <phix> ucenik33: what the hell?
[11:14] <ServerSage> Scott_S: I have enough problems with Windows in boot camp + vmware.  Seems like it randomly decides I'm illegal and wants me to revalidate it.
[11:15] <phix> Looks like his cat jumped on his keyboard
[11:15] <e01> how can i reinstall default indicators and notification libraries
[11:15] <ServerSage> ikonia: Another good point.
[11:16] <phix> e01: Using apt-get, aptitude, synaptic or the ubuntu software center application
[11:17] <e01> phix, thats okay but what are libraries, maybe some meta package that can reinstall them at once
[11:21] <charliehorse55> is anyone here familiar with cron?
[11:21] <ServerSage> charliehorse55: One or two of us.
[11:22] <charliehorse55> i wrote a script to download Nasa's APOD and set it as my background, but I can't get cron to execute it automatically. Here is the line from my /etc/crontab
[11:22] <charliehorse55> 20 6 * * * evan /usr/bin/apod-downloader
[11:22] <ManDay> ikonia: Sorry for my behaviour yesterday. I was just very frustrated.
[11:23] <ServerSage> charliehorse55: That should run the apod-downloader at 6:20am as the user evan every day.
[11:23] <joep> Hi anybody with experience with gparted? I have this peculiar problem that gparted, started from a life USB-stick (xubuntu 11.10) will only allow the creation of a primary partition. The disk has 0ne primary partition, 2 logical partitions and a swap ( in the extended area) and >500 GB unallocated. Can somebody have a solution?
[11:23] <ServerSage> charliehorse55: Have you tried, as the user evan, to run that command?
[11:24] <charliehorse55> ServerSage: that's what I suspected it would do. I can just type apod-downloader as the user evan and it will execute perfectly
[11:24] <ServerSage> charliehorse55: Check your logs, what do they say about it?
[11:24] <charliehorse55> ServerSage: which logs?
[11:25] <VictorCL> how can I install firefox 9  ?
[11:25] <VictorCL> is there an  sudo-get update or something?
[11:26] <ServerSage> charliehorse55: /var/log/syslog would be a start.
[11:26] <user1> cant suspend cant hibernate on netbooks . who has written 11.10 oneiric or is it oneerric?
[11:26] <ServerSage> VictorCL: apt-get install firefox?
[11:27] <charliehorse55> ServerSage: it has a bunch of lines like this in it:     Dec 20 06:27:05 evan-Ubuntu /usr/bin/crontab[2077]: (evan) LIST (evan)
[11:28] <iceroot> VictorCL: wait some time until ff9 is in the 11.10 repos
[11:28] <ServerSage> VictorCL: 9 just came out though.
[11:28] <ServerSage> charliehorse55: Nothing with your command?
[11:28] <VictorCL> came out today
[11:28] <VictorCL> will have to wait to install by itself I guess
[11:28] <VictorCL> I though there would be a way to force the update
[11:28] <user1> cant suspend cant hibernate on netbooks . who has written 11.10 oneiric or is it oneerric? wtf
[11:29] <charliehorse55> ServerSage: I found it,   Dec 20 06:20:01 evan-Ubuntu CRON[1750]: (evan) CMD (/usr/bin/apod-downloader)
[11:29] <iceroot> VictorCL: only with a ppa
[11:29] <insectatorious> VictorCL: Take a look at this - http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-firefox-5-on-ubuntu.html
[11:29] <iceroot> VictorCL: at the moment
[11:29] <VictorCL> ok
[11:29] <charliehorse55> ServerSage: does this mean my script just doesn't execute properly with the modified cron environment?
[11:29] <insectatorious> VictorCL: although that is for FF5 the PPA is for the stable channel for FF updates
[11:29] <insectatorious> VictorCL: so you should have the latest stable version
[11:30] <VictorCL> ok thankz
[11:30] <ServerSage> charliehorse55: Chances are it's failing.  CRON should be sending an email out about, though you probably don't have an alias set.  As root, if you have mailutils installed, you can type frm on the command line to see if root has mail.
[11:30] <ServerSage> charliehorse55: If you don't want to install anything, you can just look at /var/spool/mail/ and see if root has a file.
[11:31] <charliehorse55> ServerSage: /var/spool/mail is empty
[11:33] <charliehorse55> ServerSage: cron jobs are run in the users home directory correct?
[11:34] <psychoticmeow> Can anyone help with my dual monitor issue?
[11:35] <insectatorious> charliehorse55: This http://unixgeeks.org/security/newbie/unix/cron-1.html is a useful reference for cron troubleshooting
[11:36] <ServerSage> charliehorse55: Sorry, I'm working.  Tend to get slow.  insectatorious gave a great link though.
[11:36] <joep> I asked earlier: Hi anybody with experience with gparted? I have this peculiar problem that gparted, started from a life USB-stick (xubuntu 11.10) will only allow the creation of a primary partition. The disk has 0ne primary partition, 2 logical partitions and a swap ( in the extended area) and >500 GB unallocated. Can somebody have a solution?
[11:37] <arc_n> how to add wubi support in customised ubuntu?
[11:38] <arc_n> have any one used relinux with wubi support?
[11:39] <arc_n> how to add wubi support in customised ubuntu?
[11:40] <ServerSage> arc_n: Do you think if you just repeat the question every few minutes somebody will answer faster?
[11:40] <SunTsu> charliehorse55: they are. Although I wouldn't depend on it if running your job successfully depends on it. If you need reliable environment set it yourself
[11:40] <SunTsu> !patience | arc_n
[11:41] <DarrenBB> arc_n: what was your question?
[11:42] <arc_n> DarrenBB:i want to create customised ubuntu based on 10.04.3 version and want to add wubi support...i have used both remastersys and relinux but cant do it(cant make support of wubi)
[11:43] <phix> what is wubi?
[11:43] <arc_n> windows ubuntu installer called wubi
[11:43] <buzzmandt> Windows installer for linux
[11:43] <user1> WTF cant suspend cant hibernate on netbooks . who has written 11.10 oneiric or is it oneerric?
[11:43] <theadmin> buzzmandt: For Ubuntu, not Linux.
[11:43] <psychoticmeow> user1, magically started working for me after a recent software update
[11:44] <user1> psychoticmeow: which command? and which netbook?
[11:44] <psychoticmeow> From the GUI and on a desktop *shrug*
[11:44] <arc_n> buzzmandt: can u help me??
[11:45] <bullgard4> 'man aptitude': "The command 'man aptitude why <target package>' finds a dependency chain that installs the target package named on the command line, Where does this dependency chain start?
[11:45] <SunTsu> psychoticmeow: for me the recent update broke waking up from suspend
[11:45] <almoxarife> user1: never could or can't but could previously?
[11:45] <psychoticmeow> SunTsu, actually, come to think of it, I'm not sure if I can wake from suspend either...
[11:45] <psychoticmeow> But it does suspend now.
[11:45] <psychoticmeow> Which is bad
[11:45] <psychoticmeow> Damn.
[11:45] <DarrenBB> bummer
[11:46] <arc_n> DarrenBB:what??
[11:46] <user1> almoxarife: 10.10 perfect. from 11.04 'wake upon suspend' and  'hibernate' dont work
[11:47] <user1> almoxarife: dont know if this is local to netbooks.
[11:47] <joep> Hi anybody with experience with gparted? I have this peculiar problem that gparted, started from a life USB-stick (xubuntu 11.10) will only allow the creation of a primary partition. The disk has 0ne primary partition, 2 logical partitions and a swap ( in the extended area) and >500 GB unallocated. Can somebody have a solution?
[11:47] <arc_n> to all:i want to create customised ubuntu based on 10.04.3 version and want to add wubi support...i have used both remastersys and relinux but cant do it(cant make support of wubi)
[11:47] <DarrenBB> arc_n: what kind of computer do you have, can you play with vmware and windows?
[11:47]  * KiCkStAnD nas nas
[11:48] <almoxarife> user1: it is to some, never have gotten the old ladys dell to suspend/hibernate.
[11:48] <arc_n> DarrenBB:im using laptop and using installed ubuntu 10.04.3...im making on installed ubuntu...not used windows...
[11:48] <DarrenBB> whats your laptop like?
[11:49] <user1> almoxarife: i think its a conspiracy to stop using ubuntu by its own people.
[11:49] <DarrenBB> lol
[11:49] <arc_n> DarrenBB:Gateway NV44 with 2gb ram,intel dual core etc
[11:49] <arc_n> DarrenBB:How to compile wubi code??
[11:49] <jutnux> Download it#
[11:50] <jutnux> untar it
[11:50] <jutnux> ./configure
[11:50] <jutnux> make
[11:50] <charliehorse55> ServerSage: Got it working... the script was running the entire time but the part to change the background used gconftool-2 and it requires some special environment variables that weren't getting properly initialized in cron
[11:50] <FloodBot1> jutnux: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:50] <jutnux> And before I end up flooding, sudo make install
[11:50] <DarrenBB> lol
[11:50] <arc_n> DarrenBB:when i compile wubi code it gives libcurl is missing
[11:50] <DarrenBB> that's all?
[11:50] <DarrenBB> get libcurl
[11:50] <almoxarife> arc_n: you are wanting to make a distro based on wubi/ubuntu?
[11:51] <arc_n> almoxarife:based on ubuntu having support of wubi..so user can install custom ubuntu on windows..
[11:52] <asdffas> hey there
[11:52] <ServerSage> arc_n: Have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wubi
[11:52] <asdffas> i want to add a folder in my path
[11:52] <asdffas> but i can't get it done using the usual ways given online
[11:52] <ServerSage> asdffas: You using bash?  If so, edit your ~/.bashrc and add it.
[11:52] <e01> which is default ubuntu notification daemon
[11:52] <e01> libnotify-bin or notification-daemon or notify-daemon
[11:53] <DarrenBB> arc_n: you can just plonk a wubi.exe on the live "showcase" page/swf and if someone clicks it from inside windows hey-presto
[11:53] <DarrenBB> (live-cd I meant)
[11:53] <ServerSage> asdffas: Or your .profile  :)
[11:53] <arc_n> SeverSage: i did...its about installing ubuntu using wubi...i want to add wubi in custom ubuntu
[11:54] <DarrenBB> (I think you're going about this the wrong way)
[11:55] <asdffas> serversage: i tried adding PATH=/usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/home/nitin/dev/bin:/new/path in the bashrc but it says path is not an command
[11:55] <ServerSage> asdffas: You have to add export PATH=...
[11:55] <ServerSage> asdffas: Where … is all your paths, not an actual …
[11:56] <arc_n> DarrenBB:i cant get u...plz explain it..
[11:56] <DarrenBB> wubi is a windows (exe) program right?
[11:56] <ServerSage> asdffas: And you probably don't want to lose the path you already have.  I would suggest: export PATH=$PATH:/new/path
[11:56] <arc_n> DarrenBB:right
[11:57] <DarrenBB> you don't compile and install a windows program on linux
[11:57] <DarrenBB> (usually)
[11:57] <arc_n> DarrenBB:ok,,ya...
[11:57] <killnine> hi
[11:57] <x__> hi
[11:57] <killnine> why is 'apt-cache search' only returning results from one of my apt-repos?
[11:58] <DarrenBB> just make a webpage with the "install wubi.exe" link ,, and voila
[11:58] <killnine> (10.04 lts)
[11:58] <phix> killnine: apt-get update first?
[11:58] <killnine> phix, I did that...
[11:58] <phix> so what is wubi?
[11:58] <phix> killnine: apt-cache policy ?
[11:58] <almoxarife> !info wubi
[11:58] <arc_n> DarrenBB: go here.http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1062504
[11:58] <killnine> for example, i can install nginx, but not apt-cache search for it
[11:58] <almoxarife> !wubi
[11:59] <DarrenBB> ok
[11:59] <phix> I see, well not really, I don't see why someone would want to do that for :)
[11:59] <x__> is compiz working on xubuntu 11.10?
[11:59] <phix> x__: What is your definition of "working"
[11:59] <dr_willis> x__:  xubuntu uses a differt windowmanager/desktop by default
[12:00] <arc_n> DarrenBB:the forum thread which i gave...is based on hardy and i tried it on lucid ...it cant work
[12:00] <dr_willis> !xubuntu
[12:00] <x__> does it crash my system?
[12:00] <phix> x__: I don't know, doesi t?
[12:00] <dr_willis> x__:  how can we know that?
[12:01] <dr_willis> x__:  state the actual problem you are having
[12:01] <phix> dr_willis: I usually peep into x__'s room while he is in it
[12:01] <killnine> phix, apt-cache policy shows only /var/lib/dpk/status
[12:01] <killnine> phix, can i easily add all repos?
[12:01] <phix> killnine: weird, you have anything in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[12:01] <killnine> phix, yup
[12:01] <phix> killnine: uncommented?  or does it start with #
[12:02] <killnine> phix, and a bunch of other repos in a .list file
[12:02] <killnine> phix, it's on rackspace.....
[12:02] <killnine> uncommented
[12:02] <phix> killnine: ok what is in your /etc/apt/apt.config.d ?
[12:02] <phix> killnine: rackspace means nothing to me ;) I dont use it
[12:02] <phix> killnine: does rackspace come with user support?
[12:03] <killnine> phix, sure... will take me hours tho... but you're right...
[12:03] <killnine> phix, anyway, i have some files in the
[12:03] <DarrenBB> arc_n: how far did you get?
[12:03] <e01> someone with pure ubuntu 11.10 ?
[12:04] <SyberSol> yeah?
[12:04] <e01> i mean not ubuntu migrated to kubuntu lubuntu xubuntu or added many repositories, just fresh ubuntu and unity
[12:04] <dr_willis> e01:  state the actual problem you are having
[12:04] <e01> dr_willis, i have no tray icons :P
[12:04] <phix> e01: yeah I am running it now
[12:05] <e01> phix, can u check if you have installed notification-daemon or notify-daemon or libnotify-bin
[12:05] <arc_n> DarrenBB:there is tottaly different wubi code for lucid than hardy...
[12:05] <phix> killnine: cat them and see if any of them is blocking reading your repository list or trying to read it from somewhere else
[12:06] <phix> ok
[12:06] <bullgard4> 'man aptitude': "The command 'man aptitude why <target package>' finds a dependency chain that installs the target package named on the command line, Where does this dependency chain start?
[12:06] <phix> dpkg -l | egrep -i '(notification-daemon|notify-daemon|libnotify-bin)'
[12:06] <phix> ii  libnotify-bin                                               0.7.4-1                                    sends desktop notifications to a notification daemon (Utilities)
[12:06] <phix> ii  notification-daemon                                         0.7.1-4                                    daemon for displaying passive pop-up notifications
[12:06] <FloodBot1> phix: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:06] <jon_> hi, i've inherited a server to run and thought that the first thing i should do is test the backup
[12:06] <phix> FloodBot1: 3 lines != flood
[12:06] <killnine> phix, how would I see if they are blocking?
[12:06] <ikonia> bullgard4: could you rephrase the question as it doesn't make sense
[12:06] <jon_> the backup system at the minute is just a massive tarball of usr etc and a few other directories
[12:07] <DarrenBB> arc_n: so you may not be able to do what he's doing (making wubi once to use over and over) but to make it once wouldn't be that hard? how far did you get?
[12:07] <phix> killnine: pastebin them and I can take a look if you like :)  pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file too
[12:07] <ikonia> bullgard4: maybe give a real world example in a pastebin if it helps
[12:07] <jon_> when i restored the backup in a vm, the system no longer boots with some udev errors about kernel-provided name, and no such file or directory
[12:07] <jon_> anyone have any ideas what's happened here?
[12:07] <arc_n> DarrenBB;wait...
[12:08] <phix> jon_: the kernel is giving you this error or grub / lilo?
[12:08] <e01> phix, thanks
[12:08] <jon_> phix: the kernel as far as i can tell
[12:08] <jon_> it's past grub and started booting, since udev is giving the error
[12:09] <killnine> phix, would an empty file block?
[12:09] <killnine> just APT {};
[12:09] <DarrenBB> sounds like the kernel's changed in btw backup times
[12:09] <phix> killnine: no that is normal
[12:09] <killnine> kk
[12:09] <iceroot> jon_: copied the backup on the same machine (kernel-version, modules)?
[12:09] <phix> jon_: ah ok
[12:09] <phix> jon_: I didnt read that bit :)
[12:09] <jon_> iceroot - no, but should that be a problem?
[12:09] <iceroot> jon_: of course
[12:09] <DarrenBB> lol
[12:09] <jon_> the backup contains nothing related to the kernel as far as i can tell
[12:10] <DarrenBB> etc
[12:10] <arc_n> DarrenBB:see my code error:http://pastebin.com/US2rBWG7
[12:10] <iceroot> jon_: no modules? what dirs you backuped?
[12:10] <phix> jon_: what is the backup type? a raw image? or using some type of application which stores it in its own format?
[12:10] <jon_> iceroot, DarrenBB - i'm just checking
[12:11] <iceroot> jon_: start the vm with the kernelversion you made the backup from
[12:11] <DarrenBB> what's the bet ,if you leave /etc out, the backup'll work fine
[12:11] <phix> DarrenBB: what's to bet you won't get a console to login to :)
[12:12] <DarrenBB> lol
[12:12] <jon_> yeah, that sounds worth a try
[12:12] <jon_> at the least, there's a udev.conf file in here which could be causing problems
[12:12] <arc_n> All:Tell me solution of this compilation code:http://pastebin.com/DQrHz8Zn
[12:13] <arc_n> All:Tell me solution of this compilation code:http://pastebin.com/DQrHz8Zn
[12:13] <almoxarife> arc_n: you didn't run ./configure first?
[12:13] <mika__> hi, I've an urgent problem.... yesterday I tried to hibernate the system, it didn't went so well, it just freezed, so I shutdown the pc using the power button.... now I tried to start the pc, and the hard disk (ssd) is not recognized anymore.... what happened??
[12:14] <DarrenBB> arc_n: get libcurl you peckerhead
[12:14] <ikonia> DarrenBB: pull it back please, no need to call people names
[12:14] <warfaren> mika__: do you have an intel 320 series
[12:14] <DarrenBB> haha, sorry boss
[12:14] <ikonia> arc_n: final request - stop flooding the channel
[12:14] <jon_> thanks everyone - i'm going to investigate leaving etc out
[12:15] <arc_n> DarrenBB:how to ger libcurl?? and ikonia:sorry dear
[12:15] <DarrenBB> "well my work here is half done"
[12:15] <arc_n> All:Tell me solution of this compilation code:http://pastebin.com/DQrHz8Zn
[12:15] <mika__> warfaren: it's an ocz vertex 2
[12:16] <warfaren> okay sorry dont know then, it sounded like a problem ive heard of with intel 320
[12:17] <almoxarife> arc_n: perhaps you are a non english speaker, just in case, demanding like speech is a turn off
[12:17] <warfaren> in that case the partition was corrupted when computer was not shut down properly
[12:17] <mika__> warfaren: how did you resolved? was the bootloader see correctly the hard disk? mine doesn't! :(
[12:17] <warfaren> in the case of the intel drives i mean. not every time ofc
[12:17] <mika__> when I boot it says that there is any disk
[12:17] <mika__> neither in the bios: no device
[12:18] <warfaren> well i never got the problem cuz i updated to a firmware version that fixed it before it happened to me. but im not saying thats what happened to you as you dont have the same ssd
[12:19] <timow> telnet ftw!!
[12:19] <mika__> ok
[12:19] <almoxarife> arc_n: since you asked, the solution is 'gather and install all the dependencies you need to compile from source' first
[12:19] <warfaren> but a good idea would probably be to run a live cd and mount the hdd there. maybe mbr was being written when it froze
[12:19] <warfaren> in that case a new grub-install will probably fix it?
[12:19] <mika__> warfaren: I'm from a live cd.... but I don't see in /dev/s*
[12:20] <warfaren> oh strange
[12:20] <mika__> warfaren: it doesn't show up in the bios too
[12:20] <dr_willis> not showing in bios.. is a bad sign - like the hd may be dead sign.
[12:20] <warfaren> so if you enter bios it cant be seen there either? not just when trying to boot like normal
[12:21] <jaspionx> well well
[12:21] <arc_n> almoxarife: can u tell me how to get libcurl??
[12:21] <warfaren> or maybe the sata cable is loose, that could be why it froze
[12:21] <almoxarife> arc_n: nope
[12:21] <mika__> dr_willis: yeah, i know, and i'm kinda f***e up in that case :(
[12:21] <dr_willis> ive seen drive cables get cut on sharp edges also.  nicks one wire in the cable.
[12:21] <warfaren> ive had 2 loose sata cables. threw them away
[12:21] <warfaren> check the power cable too. maybe test it in another pc
[12:21] <dr_willis> took me forever to find that hardware issue.. ide cable with one little nick.
[12:21] <mika__> warfaren: right, i see just the cdrom drive..... and i'm on a notebook
[12:22] <warfaren> ohh
[12:22] <warfaren> no cables then i guess
[12:22] <dr_willis> USB enclosures are good for trouble shooting. :)
[12:22] <warfaren> you could still take the drive out though
[12:22] <mika__> right... already tried... and put it there again, same
[12:22] <warfaren> well connect it somewhere else i mean
[12:23] <warfaren> it could be your sata comtroller fried too
[12:23] <mika__> i don't have any other notebooks with sata :(
[12:23] <mika__> (neither desktop)
[12:23] <warfaren> maybe you can buy a sata<->usb cable?
[12:23] <warfaren> i have that, have lots of use for it
[12:24] <warfaren> it cost me like €40 though
[12:24] <warfaren> but power supply was also included and its compatible with ide and laptop ide aswell so not half bad
[12:25] <warfaren> or like someone said, usb enclosure
[12:26] <warfaren> if you find someome who threw away an external usb hdd then you can probably use that. usually its just the hdd thats dead but the enclosure can be re-used
[12:26] <creazyrohila> any one know about lenovo sound system in 11.10
[12:26]  * dr_willis has a collection of old enclosures. :)
[12:26] <dr_willis> !alsa
[12:26] <warfaren> yeah you kinda tend to get a lot of them xD
[12:26] <mika__> i try with the old disk...let's see...
[12:26] <mika__> cya later
[12:27] <warfaren> ok thats a good idea
[12:27] <warfaren> cya
[12:27] <dr_willis> warfaren:  not lately .. costs are to high :)
[12:27] <warfaren> true
[12:27] <creazyrohila> dr_willis, i have 4.1 speakers but my subwoofer not working
[12:28] <warfaren> you probably need to set it up for 5.1?as normally center and sub shares the connector
[12:28] <creazyrohila> last time (10.04) it was working by adding a code-line to alsa.conf but this time in 11.10  it not working
[12:29] <tomfmason> I am having issues with pulseaudio. I am using a plantronics usb headset but for some really odd reason only browsers play sound through them. VLC and Skype both play sound through my laptop's soundcard.
[12:29] <warfaren> i guess that can be annoying though if you watch movies and all the speech is sent to the center that you dont have
[12:30] <warfaren> but usually theres a setting to send it to left/right anyway
[12:33] <creazyrohila> any one with lenovo laptop
[12:34] <SunTsu> anyone with even less specific questions?
[12:34] <creazyrohila> lenovo y510
[12:34] <DemonWitch> hey, afaik ubuntu has a release cycle (ie not rolling release). does that mean only the new kernel/userland etc (core system) is upgraded every few months? or every package is hold back?
[12:34] <dr_willis> DemonWitch:  there are minor kernel updates from what i see.
[12:35] <dr_willis> and security updates
[12:35] <resonantsky> hey
[12:35] <dr_willis> DemonWitch:  basically every 6 mo . everything gets updated
[12:35] <TiMiDo> yeah ;)
[12:35] <SunTsu> DemonWitch: what dr_willis says plus there's ppas that are updated more often if you need that
[12:35] <resonantsky> can someone help me with usb device settings in ubuntu 11.10 ?
[12:35] <TiMiDo> resonantsky, what's wrong?
[12:35] <SunTsu> resonantsky: not without knowing what _exactly_ you are talking about
[12:36] <buzzmandt> Have you tried running alsa-mixer in trrminal?
[12:36] <resonantsky> TiMiDo: I have problems with constant disconnects on my USB bus
[12:36] <SunTsu> creazyrohila: maybe you could ask what you want to know or are you trying to do a poll on how popular lenovo laptops are?
[12:36] <resonantsky> SunTsu: my xorg.0.log shows constant USB device disconnects and reconnects, the device in question: A Logitech USB Mouse
[12:37] <SunTsu> resonantsky: maybe it's broken
[12:37] <resonantsky> TiMiDo: / SunTsu: I want to disable the USB bus ability to disconnect / reconnect devices on the fly
[12:37] <creazyrohila> SunTsu, i have a problem in y510 sound
[12:38] <creazyrohila> SunTsu, so i am asking
[12:38] <resonantsky> SunTsu: the USB bus or the mouse? the mouse is fine, works ok on another box, this box has been giving me trouble for a while...
[12:38] <creazyrohila> SunTsu, my subwoofer not working
[12:38] <creazyrohila> i tried all
[12:39] <resonantsky> this problem is a biyatch, theres loads of forums where this problem is sited by hundreds of users... and no solution win/linux/mac
[12:39] <resonantsky> seems like a usb bus / firmware issue... but there must be a way to simply disable disconnect/reconnects and make the bus act as if the device is always there.
[12:40] <resonantsky> TiMiDo: / SunTsu: let me know if you have any ideas or links to USB bus related commands so I can fiddle around with 'em
[12:41] <ManDay> ikonia: You said that gcc was in the 11.04 repositories. I can't find it there.
[12:42] <ikonia> ManDay: it is in the repos - the same as every distro
[12:43] <dr_willis> ManDay:  most likely you want to install the 'build-essential' package
[12:43] <SunTsu> creazyrohila: maybe you could a) tell us what your problem actually is, and b) what you tried to resolve it
[12:43] <dr_willis> !info build-essential
[12:43] <llutz_> !info gcc natty
[12:43] <ikonia> ManDay: is this a normal install - or another attempt at you debootstrapping
[12:44] <creazyrohila> SunTsu, i have 4 speakers and 1 subwoofer , now i installed 11.10 and my subwoofer not working only 2 speakers working.....
[12:44] <SunTsu> resonantsky: I don't know a way, but I'm not an usb expert
[12:44] <dr_willis> creazyrohila:  just a question. the audio source you are playing IS more then 2 channels?
[12:45] <resonantsky> SunTsu: ok no problem :]
[12:45] <creazyrohila> dr_willis, i dont know may be
[12:45] <deusex1983> Hi guys I am using Xubuntu 11.10 with XFCE Desktop und Nvidia Drivers with Compiz Fusion, how I can deactivate the horizontal tearing when watching .mkv files with vlc or smplayer?
[12:45] <dr_willis> creazyrohila:  if its just 2 chanel audio. then it would play out the front 2 speakers - unless your player has a way to copy the channels.
[12:46] <mah454> How can install default standard gnome 3 theme in ubuntu-11.10 ?
[12:46] <inashdeen> hi, got acer aspire 4250 here, now running on live cd. everything is okay, but the touchpad is not working. tried the fn + f7 option, it doesnt work.
[12:46] <dr_willis> creazyrohila:  i recall some sound test tools that played noise out each speaker in session. that would be how to test if they are working
[12:46] <resonantsky> SunTsu: you know what is strange... i have 2 usb ports on this laptop, one 2.0 hub and one 1.1 hub... on the 2.0 hub the issue occurs frantically, 5 times a minute or so... and on the 1.1 hub its less prevailant...
[12:46] <Crupulus> hey, how can i know which wifi card is being used, and if both of them are working at same time ? (I have an internal bcm and usb alfa network) - ty
[12:46] <creazyrohila> dr_willis, only 2 speakes working
[12:46] <Mjondras> Hey, this is my first time on IRC in 10 years or so. Where do I need to go if I need help with my desktop freezing up?
[12:47] <llutz_> dr_willis: speaker-test
[12:47] <SunTsu> resonantsky: how old is that mouse?
[12:47] <creazyrohila> SunTsu, i tried what i tried last time (when i have 10.04) and (11.04) a one line-code in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf ...but this time in 11.10 its not working
[12:48] <resonantsky> SunTsu: it has a usb port... so not old enough to be a exhibit at a computer history museum :]
[12:48] <SunTsu> creazyrohila: did you try using pavucontrol in case you are using pulse audio?
[12:48] <resonantsky> SunTsu: probably 3 years atleast...
[12:49] <SunTsu> resonantsky: it could be usb1.x. and having speed negotiation issues
[12:49] <creazyrohila> SunTsu, no
[12:49] <resonantsky> SunTsu: hmm yes.
[12:49] <inashdeen> bump
[12:49] <creazyrohila> SunTsu, dr_willis http://techspalace.blogspot.com/2009/01/lenovo-y510-surround-sound-in-ubuntu.html
[12:49] <SunTsu> creazyrohila: no to using pulse or no to having tried it?
[12:49] <dr_willis> bumping  is meaningless on irc inashdeen
[12:50] <creazyrohila> SunTsu, i dont have
[12:50] <Mjondras> Alright, so my desktop is freezing up. Is this the right place to be asking for help? :P
[12:50] <creazyrohila> means not using
[12:50] <dr_willis> Mjondras:  yes.. and give details.
[12:50] <SunTsu> Mjondras: when being more specific it might be
[12:50] <resonantsky> SunTsu: any idea where I can find usb commands related to accelration/speed factors or device profiles... such as the 'MOUSE' profile in Ubuntu... maybe I can create a workaround...
[12:51] <creazyrohila> SunTsu, dr_willis http://techspalace.blogspot.com/2009/01/lenovo-y510-surround-sound-in-ubuntu.html this thing i tried
[12:51] <inashdeen> hi everyone. has an acer aspire 4250 here, everything works ok, but the touchpad does not work, how do i fixed it. i am now running from a live cd
[12:51] <SunTsu> resonantsky: http://www.linux-usb.org/FAQ.html doesn't have the answer?
[12:52] <dr_willis> inashdeen:  checked the forums or askubunt.com yet for that exact make machine? also there may be some bugreports on it.
[12:52] <resonantsky> SunTsu: that will do :] thanks due.
[12:52] <resonantsky> sp / dude
[12:53] <Mjondras> Well, I guess it's more then a desktop problem really. Programs stop responding, I can't write. I have to use the windows-key because the sidebar doesn't respond.
[12:53] <inashdeen> dr_willis : there are some other issues, but not this
[12:54] <Mjondras> If I open a new program it works until I minimize it.
[12:55] <resonantsky> SunTsu: ahh, here we are /sys/bus/usb/devices/ ... cool.
[12:55] <Mjondras> Also, the graphic interface doesn't react, and for instance the system & shutdown-menu vanishes.
[12:57] <SunTsu> Mjondras: what wm/DE are you using?
[12:58] <Mjondras> The problem usually arises when I've been on for a while, and vanishes when I reboot. But I can't save my work when programs freeze up. I'm using Ubuntu 11.10, if that's what you're asking.
[12:58] <SunTsu> Mjondras: No, I was asking if you use unity, Gnome3, KDE, XFCE..
[12:59] <Mjondras> I don't know. :D This is my second day as an Ubuntu user. :)
[12:59] <SunTsu> Mjondras: then you prolly use Unity, you didn't change the graphic environment?
[13:00] <alvasrawuther> hey i'm having a problem with installing a problem can anyone please help me?
[13:00] <Mjondras> Nope.
[13:00] <resonantsky> Another question to anyone who can help: how serious are dpkg dependency issues? my bootstrap.log file is full of dependency messages, should I go about installing all missing packages?
[13:00] <llutz_> alvasrawuther: just don't install your problem
[13:01] <ikonia> resonantsky: depends how you installed the packages, if you used the package manager then the required dependencies should be met and you'll have no issues
[13:02] <Nertskull> Does someone want to recommend to me a good mouse?  I don't necessarily need a "gaming" mouse, but would like a good one.  Wired/wireless are ok.  I've been looking at the G500, are there better ones?
[13:02] <ikonia> Nertskull: try ##hardware
[13:02] <resonantsky> ikonia: which package manager? synaptic? update-manager ??
[13:02] <SunTsu> netsurf3_: first of all, this is #ubuntu, nit ##hardware
[13:03] <SunTsu> netsurf3_: sorry
[13:03] <ikonia> resonantsky: update-manager just installs updates to existing packages
[13:03] <SunTsu> Nertskull: first of all, this is #ubuntu, nit ##hardware
[13:03] <theadmin> resonantsky: Any of them. apt-get is also a package manager. Basically anything APT-aware is.
[13:03] <Nertskull> ikonia: excellent,
[13:03] <Nertskull> thanks, i'll try there
[13:03] <ikonia> Nertskull: ok.....so why ask ?
[13:03] <ikonia> Nertskull: sorry, miss-understood
[13:03] <SunTsu> Nertskull: second, people there probably need to know what you call better - better in what regard
[13:04] <Nertskull> allright, I will give more details, thanks for pointing me to a better place
[13:04] <resonantsky> theadmin: synaptic was complaining about broken packages... i thought i had sorted that all out... should I go about installing all the packages that bootstrap.log says are missing?
[13:05] <Mjondras> The most 'advanced' action I've done so far is installing Spotify through the terminal ;P
[13:05] <theadmin> resonantsky: I'm not so sure about what "bootstrap.log" is, but "sudo apt-get -f install" or "sudo dpkg --configure -a" usually fix broken packages.
[13:05] <s0> i don't know which country are you,i do not understand what are you talking
[13:05] <kornelia> I am having trouble with pulse on an acer aspire 5100 (ALC883 soundchip), output is working fine but the mic wont work
[13:06] <s0> can i make a girlfriend here
[13:06] <resonantsky> theadmin: seems to be a log of all dpkg actions... its cool, i assume that adding all these predependencies can do no harm...
[13:06] <ikonia> s0: no - we only offer ubuntu support discussion here
[13:07] <s0> i forget my password
[13:07] <ManDay> ikonia: What do you mean by "gcc-4.3" is in the repos just like with any other distro? As we know, 4.3 is no longer in the repositories for oneirc, at least!
[13:07] <SunTsu> s0: then get a better mind
[13:07] <dr_willis> !password
[13:08] <ManDay> ikonia: YOU told me that I should use 11.04 because there, as opposed to Oneiric, I could get gcc-4.3
[13:08] <creazyrohila> dr_willis, now i run test speaker
[13:08] <ikonia> ManDay: two questions. 1.) is this a normal install or another bootstrap install 2.) why are you osbsessed with gcc 4.3
[13:08] <abu-bakr> anyone have any experience with this when setting a share in ubuntu: unable to mount windows share
[13:08] <s0> get a better mind,what's this mean
[13:08] <creazyrohila> and its running fine
[13:08] <abu-bakr> I cannot access it from either of my two ubuntu machines
[13:08] <creazyrohila> dr_willis, but when i play a file its not working
[13:08] <ManDay> ikonia: 1) bootstrap 2) i need something older-or-equal to 4.3 because the software requires it.
[13:08] <dr_willis> creazyrohila:  because the sound is only 2 channels - would be my guess.
[13:09] <creazyrohila> speaker-test -Dplug:surround51 -c6 -twav
[13:09] <ikonia> ManDay: 1.) why are you bootstrapping and not installing like everyone else 2.) you don't need 4.3 - ubuntu 11.04 and it's components are certified working and supported by matlab
[13:09] <bullgard4> Where is the usage of Synaptic > Settings > Filters described?
[13:09] <ikonia> ManDay: I have you alink yesterday detailing 11.04 was supported and certified
[13:09] <creazyrohila> dr_willis, i tried this "speaker-test -Dplug:surround51 -c6 -twav"
[13:09] <ikonia> ManDay: that means the default components of 11.04 will work with matlab
[13:09] <creazyrohila> dr_willis, what can i do now
[13:09] <ManDay> ikonia: Matlab needs 4.3 or older. If that link claims differently, then that links is wrong.
[13:10] <dr_willis> creazyrohila:  so? Means very little to me. sounds to me like you need to tell whatever player you are using to copy the 2 channel audio to the other channels.
[13:10] <ikonia> ManDay: no it doesn't as after you insistance yesterday I did a short test,
[13:10] <ikonia> ManDay: and again - why are you bootstrapping and not doing a normal install
[13:10] <ManDay> ikonia: You tested matlab 2011b with a gcc newer than 4.3?
[13:11] <ManDay> ikonia: Because I want to.
[13:11] <ikonia> 2011b - just a base install and build on the demo product
[13:11] <ManDay> ikonia: I want to configure a minimal system from scratch / thats whz
[13:11] <ikonia> ManDay: ok - then I'm going to leave supporting you well alone, you insist on making this hard for yoruself and have no idea what you are doing
[13:11] <ikonia> ManDay: use a default install and remove the packages you don't want - good luck
[13:12] <ManDay> ikonia: Did you test matlab 2011b with a gcc newer than 4.3?
[13:12] <ikonia> ManDay: the default installed in 11.04 which was 4.4 I think, I was limited how much I can test with a demo license.
[13:12] <ikonia> ManDay: good luck
[13:13] <Mjondras> Umm, might my graphics card be causing the problems?
[13:13] <dr_willis> Mjondras:  very possible.
[13:14] <ManDay> ikonia: As it turns out from "limited how much I can test" you have not the slightest idea what we are talking about. That said, all you did was misleading me. Spare me your "good luck" - after all that, this is pure irony
[13:14] <iceroot> ManDay: google says that matlab 2011b is working with ubuntu 11.10
[13:15] <ManDay> iceroot: I'm pretty sure this does not consider the gcc version.
[13:15] <iceroot> ManDay: and why you want to built it and not use a binary?
[13:15] <ManDay> iceroot: build what?
[13:15] <iceroot> ManDay: why you need gcc if you dont want to built it?
[13:16] <iceroot> ManDay: gcc is a compiler-collection
[13:16] <ikonia> ManDay: http://www.mathworks.co.uk/support/sysreq/current_release/linux.html
[13:16] <ikonia> ManDay: again - the official supported list
[13:16] <ManDay> iceroot: Matlab uses gcc in several parts such as Simulink to compile it's own language.
[13:16] <iceroot> ManDay: ah ok
[13:16] <ManDay> ikonia:  This has nothing to do with gcc.
[13:16] <ikonia> ManDay: yes it does
[13:16] <ManDay> s/it's/its
[13:16] <ikonia> if you read in more detail
[13:17] <ManDay> ikonia: http://www.mathworks.de/support/compilers/R2011b/glnxa64.html
[13:18] <ikonia> ManDay: where does that say it's 4.3 or older ?
[13:18] <iceroot> ManDay: and you get errors when using gcc higher then 4.3?
[13:18] <ikonia> actually I don't care
[13:18] <ManDay> iceroot: Yes. Matlab refuses to compile then.
[13:18] <ikonia> iceroot: no, it's fully supported and working on 11.04
[13:18] <ikonia> at least the demo programs work too,
[13:18] <iceroot> !info gcc natty
[13:19] <ikonia> I suspect this is more to do with the fact that ManDay is installing via debootstrap and his build enviornment isn't complete/working
[13:19] <iceroot> ManDay: the matlab-site is telling its working with ubuntu 11.04 and gcc-4.5
[13:19] <ManDay> ikonia: Stop it. I trusted your judgement once and now it turns out you were wrong all the way and only guessing. Have at least the modesty to refrain from making further comments
[13:19] <ikonia> yeah, I'm guessing, that's why I'm supplying you with factual information,
[13:20] <iceroot> ManDay: can you try a normal ubuntu-installation?
[13:20] <ikonia> I'm out
[13:20] <iceroot> ManDay: live-cd should be fine
[13:20] <omido> how can i install joomla on ubuntu?
[13:20] <abu-bakr> hi folks, does anyone have experience on creating a share in ubuntu to share a folder that is on a usb drive.. i.e. not in the home folder
[13:20] <dr_willis> !info joomla
[13:20] <DemonWitch> ikonia: you == complete && utter noob
[13:20] <iceroot> omido: only by hand and not with apt-get
[13:20] <ManDay> iceroot: Where did you read it supported 4.5?
[13:20] <iceroot> ManDay: the site tells ubuntu 11.04 is supported, correct?
[13:20] <ManDay> iceroot: yes
[13:21] <iceroot> !info gcc natty
[13:21] <dr_willis> abu-bakr:  you mount it with the proper permissions/options, then the user can either share it. or you make a entry for it in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[13:21] <omido> iceroot:  can you help me do that ? cause i'm 100% noob in that aspect and i want to learn joomla
[13:21] <iceroot> ManDay: so 4.5.2-1
[13:21] <ManDay> iceroot: By your definition then, that site is wrong then.
[13:21] <abu-bakr> what sort of entry would smb need?
[13:21] <ManDay> It does provenly NOT support gcc-4.5. As I SAID that was NOT considered when speaking of "compatibility".
[13:21] <abu-bakr> (also i dont know what the 'proper permissions/options' would be)
[13:22] <dr_willis> abu-bakr:  depends on what you want to do with the share. Samba is very well doucmented.
[13:22] <dr_willis> !info samba-doc
[13:22] <abu-bakr> oh cool
[13:22] <dr_willis> the samba-doc package has like 3 books on confguring samba. and thers 1000's of web sites.. perhaps 'Over 9000' :)
[13:22] <ManDay> iceroot: I already tried on oneiric
[13:22] <iceroot> ManDay: have you used a default 11.04 installation?
[13:22] <ManDay> And yes, it refuses to compile with 4.5
[13:22] <dr_willis> abu-bakr:  the smb.conf file also has examples at the end.
[13:22] <abu-bakr> I have a disk in a USB caddy labelled 'Backup Disk' so i want to sync home folders from various ubuntu machines onto it.. good idea?
[13:23] <dr_willis> abu-bakr:  what filesystem is it?
[13:23] <ManDay> iceroot: No, I can try from the liveCD, give me a few minutes
[13:23] <Mjondras> I tried the NVIDIA-channel, but no one's answering. Anyways, the terminal telling me I have a "nVidia Corporation GT216 [GeForce GT 330M] (rev a2)" card.
[13:23] <abu-bakr> dr_willis, 'over 9000' = not cool! thats a mind melter
[13:24] <dr_willis> abu-bakr:  samba has been around for ages.. and i imagine there are more then 9000 sites that give info on it.. but you missed the meme. :)
[13:24] <abu-bakr> i configured the backup disk as fat32 to keep things terribly simple.. (i can easily reformat to something else if not a good idea)
[13:24] <dr_willis> abu-bakr:  using linux fs on it . would make things easier i imagine
[13:24] <dr_willis> abu-bakr:  then you would have more options as to what to do with it.
[13:24] <Gentoo64> abu-bakr: dont forget fat32 has a 4gb limit to files
[13:25] <iceroot> ManDay: great
[13:25] <dr_willis> with ext2/3/4 you could make it a nfs share,  and mount it to the other machines, and each user could have their own backup dir they use as they want.
[13:25] <dr_willis> or use sshfs :) (what i tend to do)
[13:25] <abu-bakr> gentoo64, yeah i remembered that when it wouldn't transfer a couple of movies :P
[13:26] <bullgard4> Where is the usage of Synaptic > Settings > Filters described?
[13:26] <dr_willis> abu-bakr:  whats best will depend on the details. # of users, what sort of backups you mean. how much data.
[13:26] <abu-bakr> dr_willis, about 4 machines max but they will all be just home folders mainly and they are work machines so just pictures and docs really
[13:27] <abu-bakr> all ubuntu but ya never know when the odd windows box pops up
[13:27] <Gentoo64> imo ext4 is fast and a good all rounder, if its a load of vig files then xfs
[13:27] <dr_willis> abu-bakr:  i tend to just use ssh and sshfs on linux, or winscp or other ssh cleints on windows these days..  Ive had to fight with to many windows machines hateing each others shares.
[13:28] <abu-bakr> hmm
[13:28] <dr_willis> someone mentioned a ssh/sftp tool for windows in here the other day that lets you mount a remote ssh server to a drive letter in windows also. but i forget its name
[13:28] <dr_willis> Or you could go the samba route. and set up the users home  dirs as a 'home' share.
[13:28] <dr_willis> or both ways. :)
[13:29] <abu-bakr> .. both ways.. sounds dirty
[13:29] <dr_willis> 12+ ways
[13:30] <dr_willis> main server, using samba, set up home 'shares' and make a dir on that drive for each user. to access via samba. would be one way.
[13:30] <dr_willis> link that dir to their home under Backups or somthing. :) or move the /home/ to that dir. if its just for backups
[13:32] <abu-bakr> several options there but i'm not sure where to go from here tbh
[13:32] <abu-bakr> the simplest thing would be to get the current share working that I am attempting
[13:32] <dr_willis> ssh and scp and sshfs are defainatly worth learning about on a linux network
[13:33] <ManDay> iceroot: It does not work.
[13:33] <abu-bakr> i can currently create shares that the other ubuntu machines can see but only in this machines 'home' dir
[13:33] <dr_willis> shareing a ntfs or vfat would require you to mount the flesystem with open permissions, and  not be very secure.
[13:33] <abu-bakr> other shares out of home do not mount
[13:33] <Dj_FlyBy[ms]> whats the best dvd ripper for Ubuntu (I am ripping my Bluray/HDDVD movies into my media center library (tired of picking from a shelf of 600+ dvd's) I just want it all in one library now like the rest of the stuff I have in mythtv and mediatomb
[13:33] <david> Is there an easy way, without opening the machine, to see if it has a SATA or IDE drive ?
[13:33] <iceroot> ManDay: i guess you should contact matlab about that issue
[13:34] <dr_willis> You could always Link the other filesystems INTO some dir in the users home dir abu-bakr  so they just ned to access their homes.
[13:34] <iceroot> ManDay: because they said its working with that ubuntu-version
[13:34] <abu-bakr> !disk utility | david
[13:34] <abu-bakr> David, try system/administration/disk utility
[13:35] <abu-bakr> dr_willis i'll just give that a try
[13:36] <abu-bakr> david_, try system/administration/disk utility
[13:36] <llutz_> david_: sudo hdparm -I /dev/sdX |grep Transport
[13:36] <david_> i always forget about hdparm
[13:37] <mrbb> hi, anyone here having trouble with HD 4650 and latest ubuntu 11.10 ?
[13:37] <bullgard4> Where is the usage of Synaptic > Settings > Filters described?
[13:38] <ikonia> bullgard4: it filters results normally
[13:38] <david_> I just installed my elitebook 6930p. Trouble is, the volume control either works poorly or is extremely sensitive. I checked keyboard and keyboard shortcut tools and found nothing to help me
[13:39] <abu-bakr> dr_willis, erm.. i'm struggling to do that..
[13:39] <bullgard4> ikonia: "normally" is no useful description for an instruction for use.
[13:39] <abu-bakr> due to fat32 i think?
[13:39] <abu-bakr> or am doing something completely wrong..
[13:39] <ikonia> bullgard4: ok then "read the documentation" that should give you a useful description
[13:40] <mrbb> anyone ? plz? I've been trying to get the damn thing to work for 2 days now and Im obv doing something wrong but I cant figure out what
[13:41] <llutz_> mrbb: 1ststep: type "/anyone >mrbb"    and "/details > mrbb"
[13:42] <david_> Is there a irc channel for gripping about how much I dislike the direction ubuntu has taken ? ( dropped gnome for new unity interface that is incompatible with most programs and is impossible to use ) ?
[13:42] <llutz_> s#/#!#
[13:44] <CipherX> don't like lightdm?
[13:44] <CipherX> I have no probs with it so far, but to each their own I guess
[13:45] <ManDay> iceroot: As I already said: Their definition of "working" simply differs from yours. On a sidenote: I"ve been sayiny that all along, and you wouldn't believe me
[13:45] <iceroot> ManDay: as i said, contact them, i am no matlab-maintainer
[13:45] <gaussblurinc> how to upgrade system from 10.10 to 11.04? ( in console way ) (system doesn't see repos with 11.04:\)
[13:45] <iceroot> !update | gaussblurinc
[13:46] <ManDay> And what, iceroot, do you expect me to tell them? They make it pretty clear that only gcc-4.3 is supported.
[13:47] <llutz_> ManDay: if you know that, why didn't you just search packages.ubuntu.com for a version coming with gcc-4.3?
[13:49] <mrbb> llutz_ : what u said earlier made no sense to me , this is all new to me :/
[13:49] <pksadiq> Ubuntu 11.04, installation stuck at "Detecting file system", any idea?
[13:49] <llutz_> !details > mrbb
[13:49] <abu-bakr> !details
[13:50] <dr_willis> pksadiq:  start with a pastebin output of 'sudo fdisk -l'
[13:50] <quick-> wine not working in 11.10 . Please help .
[13:50] <dr_willis> quick-:  whats not working about it?
[13:50] <dr_willis> does 'wine --help' work?
[13:50] <pksadiq> Dr_willis: How to open terminal?
[13:50] <dr_willis> !terminal
[13:51] <SunTsu> !details > quick-
[13:51] <dr_willis> pksadiq:  or run gnome-terminal from the menus/launcher
[13:51] <quick-> dr_willis:  i am not able to start a program . it just exits .
[13:51] <dr_willis> quick-:  what programs have you tried?
[13:51] <pksadiq> dr_willis: I mean while installing, how will I open terminal?
[13:52] <quick-> dr_willis: ultrasurf . it worked fine with 11.04 but not working on 11.10
[13:52] <pksadiq> Dr_willis: i got tty working. Let me check
[13:52] <quick-> pksadiq:  press alt+ctrl+T to open terminal
[13:53] <ikonia> ManDay: are you still here ?
[13:53] <dr_willis> quick-:  so do other apps work?
[13:54] <quick-> dr_willis: i am not using any other app using wine .
[13:55] <dr_willis> quick-:  you said wine wasent working. :)  so thats not exactly the issue then it seems.
[13:55] <webroasters> hi guys. i used a command awhile back, that sets the crontab to look at a custom crontab.txt file. I've changed that file and I need to redo that command, but I forget what it was
[13:55] <dr_willis> try some other apps to see if it is in fact a general wine issue..or a specific issue with that one windows app.
[13:55] <iceroot> ManDay: i told you 10 times that they say ubuntu 11.04 is supported and 11.04 comes with gcc higher then 4.3
[13:55] <dr_willis> such as http://www.bulkrenameutility.co.uk/swmirror/BRU_Setup_WinNTx86.exe
[13:55] <quick-> webroasters:  type history to get all the commands you used in past . hope it helps
[13:56] <iceroot> ManDay: so lets stop the discussion here, its useless, talk to matlab and ask them about the issue because its not a ubuntu-issue
[13:56] <ManDay> iceroot: whatever
[13:56] <webroasters> ah perfect thanks
[13:56] <ikonia> ManDay: I've just got off the phone to matlab and I can explain it if you want ?
[13:56] <dr_willis> wow - installing wine. pulled in like 400+mb of stuff.
[13:56] <ManDay> i never claimed it was. the only wish I came here with is installing 4.3 on ubuntu...
[13:56] <ManDay> which, so far, i still haven"t
[13:57] <iceroot> !info gcc lucid
[13:57] <ikonia> ManDay: the guy on the phone was quite approachable and explained a few things which it may help me to clarify for you
[13:57] <iceroot> !info gcc-4.3 lucid
[13:57] <iceroot> ManDay: lucid have gcc-4.3
[13:57] <ManDay> ikonia: Unless you have a solution other than installing 4.3 I think I now what the problem is
[13:57] <ikonia> ManDay: it's a little more complex than that, and there are more options open to you than that
[13:58] <ManDay> ikonia: You think about editing the mex-config file?
[13:58] <ManDay> Already tried that.
[13:58] <ikonia> no
[13:58] <abu-bakr> aaahh.. so i cant set group/file/folder permissions and therefore provide the necessary security for the share either .. becooozzz i am playing with a fat32 part... correct?
[13:58] <llutz_> abu-bakr: correct
[13:58] <ikonia> I'll leave you to it, you seem to be too certain of what you know
[13:58] <abu-bakr> ok.. gparted it is .. :D
[14:00] <ManDay> ikonia: I'm not gonna beg you for your help. We all would appreciate if you shared the knowledge but be my guest if not.
[14:00] <T0mM> Virtualbox wont stop running processes and eating my cpu even though it aint open.
[14:01] <T0mM> How do i stop VBoxSVC
[14:01] <T0mM> Please help me it's killing my computer.
[14:02] <quick-> T0mM:  You can try pkill VBoxSVC
[14:02] <T0mM> Okay.
[14:02] <T0mM> It just booted it's processes back up again.
[14:03] <ian23> Hello, I need help with a simple question that I couldn't find referenced anywhere (possibly because it's too stupid?): I am currently upgrading to 11.04 and in the last 5 minutes of package installation he starts downloading an update for a program that will approximately take 5 hours. I don't really need the program, I installed it ages ago for fun and used it once or twice. How do I stop it? If I go CTRL-C, will that cancel my whole distro upgrade? He
[14:03] <ian23> lp anybody?
[14:05] <emcav> should be safe to if it's still in the downloading stage
[14:05] <lasers> ian23: If it's still downloading, CTRL^C.  Never do it during configuring phrase.
[14:05] <T0mM> I see this in ps aux: macs      7646 38.8  0.0      0     0 ?        Zl   13:18  18:07 [VBoxSVC] <defunct>
[14:06] <lasers> T0mM: That process will go away when you reboot.
[14:06] <T0mM> Okay.
[14:07] <kokozedman> hey guys... anyone experiencing the "empty syslog" problem on Ubuntu Server?
[14:07] <ian23> It's in the "installing the upgrades" phase, currently downloading a piece of upgrade. Is that safe?
[14:07] <kokozedman> i can't find a way to log at the system log... running Oneiric, Server
[14:07] <kubanc> a have a toshiba satellite L100-119 and the power managment (stand by) is not working in ubuntu 10.04. Ia there any solution?
[14:08] <ian23> I tried to trick him by cutting my internet connection, he just went to 0kb/s and that was it
[14:08] <mrbb> ok lets try again. I got a problem with installing ATI mobility radeon HD 4650 on ubuntu 11.10, if I try to install the drivers that are included in ubuntu I get errors and it just wont intall , I get an error report on jockey.log but I have no ide how to understand it (what part to read to understand the fault) I have also tried diff methods posted on ubuntu forums, both swe and en (im swe) and nothing works . At best I get VESA : M96 as my ca
[14:08] <mrbb> rd and that lags horribly , every time I drag a window it loks as if Im running on 2fps. Im all lost :/
[14:09] <kokozedman> kubanc: i have experience really poor experience with LTS release (10.04) ... i upgraded to 10.10 then it got a lot better for my laptop... it doesn't seem to be well versed with the latest hardwares
[14:09] <T0mM> lasers, It worked, Thank you.
[14:10] <lasers> T0mM: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombie_process
[14:10] <kokozedman> mrbb: i've had a similar problem on my laptop... for me, it was the SATA and nVIDIA graphics card combination which was somewhat silly... making one or the other degrade over time. Either i get a very sluggish compiz and graphics, or a very slow drive response
[14:11] <llutz_> kokozedman: does oneiric use rsyslogd? check /etc/rsyslog.conf(.d/*)
[14:11] <Kingeddie> good morning ppl
[14:12] <emcav> ian23: it usually doesn't start upgrading packages until all the downloading is done so i think you should be fine
[14:12] <kokozedman> llutz_: i think so, it's got the 50-default.conf inside /etc/rsyslog.d ...
[14:15] <Zegrento7> Hello everyone! When i try to install Lubuntu 11.10 from a 4gb Maxell flash drive, the installer crashes cuz it fails to configure APT... On launchpad they said i have to copy the content of filesystem.squashfs to the flash drive, but i got an 'Access denied' even on  root. But only when i copy from the squashfs. I can't change the permissions in root. Can someone help?
[14:16] <AaronCampbell> Is there anything for Ubuntu that's akin to Adobe Premiere Pro?  At the moment I really don't need THAT much...mostly pulling video from an HD camera that uses MiniDV and some basic cutting/rendering
[14:18] <jussi> AaronCampbell: IM not 100% on what premiere pro does, but openshot, pitivi and kdenlive all appear to be something similar?
[14:18] <gwelter> AaronCampbell: pitivi, novacut, kdenlive
[14:18] <AaronCampbell> Thanks, I'll check them out
[14:19] <inashdeen> hi guys, i would like to ask a question here. hope people wont bet agree with it. what is the difference between debian unstable and ubuntu? and i am looking more into aspects like driver support, dependencies, etc.
[14:19] <kokozedman> Zegrento7: i suggest you fire-up a Virtual machine, load the CD/ISO image in it, then plug your USB flash inside the Virtual machine, then create a startup disk inside the Live CD system ..... that's the most reliable solution for me, for all times
[14:19] <bullgard4> What do gids mean with a value > 1000 in Ubuntu?
[14:19] <mrbb> what exacly does this mean : DEBUG: ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver (post-release updates) availability undetermined, adding to pool
[14:19] <OliveGreen> Hello
[14:20] <AaronCampbell> gwelter: Do you know if novacut is in one of the repos (possibly called something different)?
[14:20] <OliveGreen> Is it a good idea to use the Ubuntu Mozilla ppa to install Firefox 9?
[14:20] <gwelter> bullgard4: uids lower than 1000 are usually reserverd for system users (e.g. used by services)
[14:20] <gwelter> AaronCampbell: not sure, just know it by name
[14:21] <OliveGreen> That's Ubuntu Mozilla Security ppa. Sorry
[14:21] <Peyam> Hi. I tried to connect my desktop computer to my tv. I can't make it work. please help me somebody
[14:21] <bullgard4> OliveGreen: It is a better idea to not use a ppa to install Firefox. Wait for an official Ubuntu package.
[14:21] <jutnux> Peyam, what is your graphics card?
[14:22] <Peyam> jutnux: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller
[14:22] <OliveGreen> bullgard4, I see. Thank you.
[14:22] <jutnux> Have you installed the drivers?
[14:22] <Zegrento7> kokozedman: i'll try it out, but this happens to me with both startup disk creator or unetbootin... Somehow i need to change the permissions i think, but it doesn't let me. But thanks anyway..
[14:22] <gwelter> OliveGreen: just wait a week or so. should show by itself
[14:22] <kokozedman> Zegrento7: the flash is alright?
[14:23] <kokozedman> Zegrento7: i know, chinese, those low price and low quality flash USB drives can make your day very dark
[14:23] <Zegrento7> Yes, it works fine, i can do anything with it, the only thing i can't do is to copy from filesystem.squashfs to it
[14:24] <Zegrento7> I installed systems from it before without problems..
[14:24] <kokozedman> i see...
[14:24] <bullgard4> gwelter: But I asked for guids > 1000. So can I conclude with certainty from your message that gids with values > 1000 are simply gids fpr non-system users?
[14:24] <bullgard4> gwelter: But I asked for guids > 1000. So can I conclude with certainty from your message that gids with values > 1000 are simply gids for non-system users?
[14:25] <llutz_> bullgard4: since ubuntu uses usergroups by default, gid usually equals to uid (non system groups)
[14:25] <mzaza> I have installed php5, apache2, mysql-client, mysql-server & phpmyadmin. I tried running a PHP site an it worked probably. But when I tried running a PHP site which connects to mysql database all what I get is a blank white page. I have tested this site on windows machine running xamp and it worked probably. Any ideas?
[14:25] <suigeneris> hello
[14:25] <Peyam> jutnux:  I dont how to do
[14:25] <gwelter> bullgards: if you add an user/group yourself, it starts numbering from 1000 and up
[14:25] <Zegrento7> hi
[14:25] <jason404> are there ubuntu backpports like there are for debian? I'm using 11.04
[14:25] <gwelter> bullgard4: that's just a setting. some distros start at 500
[14:25] <jutnux> Additional Drivers Peyam
[14:26] <Peyam> jutnux:  it says no deriver
[14:26] <suigeneris> I've done something horrible and now I get 'Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery' during startup
[14:26] <suigeneris> please help
[14:26] <Peyam> jutnux:  it doesnt show any deriver.
[14:26] <llutz_> bullgard4: those things are defined in /etc/adduser.conf
[14:27] <CipherX> probably != properly
[14:28] <Peyam> jutnux:  Can you help please
[14:28] <jutnux> Peyam
[14:28] <Peyam> jutnux:  yes
[14:28] <jutnux> Have you looked in the display settings?
[14:29] <Peyam> jutnux:  yes the HDMI port is disconnect according to xrandr logs
[14:29] <jason404> hey, when I cat /etc/debian_version, I get squeeze/sid as the reply. I thought I was running natty narwal?!?!
[14:29] <Zegrento7> I'll come back later, thx for the halp, bye!
[14:29] <llutz_> jason404: lsb_release -sc
[14:30] <bullgard4> llutz_: My personal gid is 1000. I created a group »burning«. Ubuntu gave it gid=1002. In this case uid != gid. Can you comment.
[14:30] <jutnux> Are you using Ubuntu peyam?
[14:30] <Peyam> jutnux:  yes 11.10
[14:30] <jason404> llutz: thanks
[14:30] <iceroot> jason404: cat /etc/issue
[14:30] <jutnux> Go into the command line and type xrandr --auto
[14:30] <suigeneris> I've done something horrible and now I get 'Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery' during startup
[14:30] <jutnux> see what it does.
[14:30] <suigeneris> please help
[14:30] <gwelter> bullgard4: uid doesn't need to match the gid
[14:30] <jason404> yeh, I just remembered that those are debian names
[14:30] <Peyam> jutnux:  please write my name so I don't drop you
[14:30] <bullgard4> gwelter. Yes. I know that.
[14:31] <llutz_> bullgard4: you created a non-system-group, so first empty GID>1000 was taken for "burning"
[14:31] <jason404> so, are there ubuntu backpports like there are for debian? I'm using 11.04
[14:31] <bullgard4> llutz_: Thank you very much for commenting and your help.
[14:31] <jutnux> suigeneris: Can you pastebin the output of cat /etc/fstab
[14:31] <iceroot> !backports | jason404
[14:31] <llutz_> bullgard4: if you would have used adduser --system burning, it would have been <1000
[14:31] <Peyam> jutnux:  nothing comes down
[14:31] <llutz_> err addgroup sry
[14:32] <jason404> iceroot: okay thanks
[14:32] <jutnux> peyam: Did you sudo it?
[14:32] <gwelter> bullgard4: cat /etc/group so see who took 1000 and 1001
[14:32] <suigeneris> jutnux: livecd?
[14:32] <Peyam> jutnux:  no
[14:32] <bullgard4> gwelter: I did that already before I posted here in this channel.
[14:32] <jutnux> suigeneris: Skip mounting first, see what it is doing.
[14:32] <jutnux> Peyam: Do that then.
[14:32] <Peyam> jutnux:  nothiing happens.
[14:32] <gwelter> bullgard4: what are you trying to accomplish?
[14:33] <Kingeddie> Hi, im having problems with my toshiba notebook, im tryin to run a game on wine in Ubuntu 10.04 but it says ""Failed to find a suitable display device. Exiting program.", my video is Ati Radeon HD 6310 and i already installed the driver from their website, wich it works with every thing else.
[14:33] <suigeneris> jutnux: Skipping / at user request and keeps waiting
[14:34] <bullgard4> gwelter: I tried to answer the question: "What do gids mean with a value > 1000 in Ubuntu?"  As I said at the outset.
[14:35] <jutnux> suigeneris: Do you know what is not mounting?
[14:35] <gwelter> bullgard4: well, gids not created as systems gids
[14:35] <bullgard4> gwelter: Yes.
[14:35] <Peyam> jutnux: http://pastebin.com/4ig8Fcdq
[14:35] <suigeneris> jutnux: it says /tmp is not ready
[14:35] <xskydevilx> Is there an off-topic irc for ubuntu?
[14:35] <llutz_> !ot
[14:36] <jutnux> peyam: Try xrandr --output HDMI1 --auto
[14:37] <suigeneris> jutnux: and fstab says /dev/sda1 / reiserfs notail,user_xattr 0 1
[14:37] <alexxander> i'm in vietnam and facebook is blocked, can someone run through how i change my dns server to one which will give me access to blocked sites?
[14:37] <beaa> holaa
[14:37] <jutnux> alexxander: I think you'd have to run through a proxy
[14:37] <suigeneris> alexxander: /etc/resolv.conf
[14:37] <Peyam> jutnux:  the HDMI is disconnected
[14:37] <jutnux> suigeneris: Try and mount it then.
[14:37] <alexxander> how do i go about doing that?
[14:37] <Peyam> jutnux:  what do I do next
[14:37] <SunTsu> alexxander: you can try google's dns. 8.8.8.8
[14:37] <jutnux> Peyam: Is it plugged in? :/
[14:38] <Peyam> jutnux: no? cous I cant see anything then. I have just tv as monitor
[14:38] <alexxander> how do i change the dns i'm running on? i'm a total newb to linux
[14:38] <suigeneris> alexxander: vim /etc/resolv.conf and put in 8.8.8.8
[14:38] <munchor> Where is the emacs config file in Ubuntu? I tried ~/.emacs.d/init.el and ~/.emacs and none worked :S
[14:38] <alexxander> type that in terminal yeah?
[14:38] <suigeneris> jutnux: how?
[14:38] <iceroot> alexxander: gksudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf
[14:39] <jutnux> suigeneris: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /
[14:39] <suigeneris> alexxander: type sudo vim /etc/resolv.conf
[14:39] <iceroot> alexxander: use that instead of vim because 1. vim is not installed by default, 2. vim is commandline, 3. sudo was missing
[14:39] <jutnux> Peyam: I'm confused as to how you are seeing anything then..
[14:39] <SunTsu> alexxander: try it first. dig www.facebook.com @8.8.8.8
[14:39] <suigeneris> jutnux: I'm in grub> prompt
[14:40] <Peyam> jutnux:  with vga
[14:40] <SunTsu> alexxander: or host www.facebook.com 8.8.8.8
[14:40] <iceroot> alexxander: you can also set a dns-server with the gui using "nm-connection-editor"
[14:40] <jutnux> suigeneris: sudo fsdisk -l
[14:40] <jutnux> suigeneris: tell me the output
[14:40] <CipherX> I wouldn't have  him use vim, being new to linux/unix lol
[14:41] <jutnux> Agreed ^^
[14:41] <suigeneris> alexxander: type sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf
[14:41] <suigeneris> jutnux: I'm in grub> prompt, I can't type that
[14:41] <jutnux> I still think he'd be better off with a GUI app.
[14:41] <llutz_> better to check what SunTsu said before editing enything
[14:42] <SunTsu> why do you want him to change resolve.conf if nobody even knows if that dns setup works?
[14:42] <Peyam> jutnux:  what do I do?
[14:42] <xskydevilx> is there like a ppa for oneiric for firefox stable?
[14:43] <iceroot> xskydevilx: FF8 is stable
[14:43] <xskydevilx> iceowl, ff9 just came out.
[14:43] <iceroot> xskydevilx: does not change the fact that ff8 is stable and there is no need to change to the new version directly
[14:44] <xskydevilx> iceowl, I prefer to have the latest.
[14:44] <iceroot> xskydevilx: you can wait some days until ff9 hits the main-repo
[14:44] <xskydevilx> iceowl, oh, that'll take like a few weeks-
[14:45] <suigeneris> jutnux: what line am I looking for in fdisk -l?
[14:45] <bullgard4> Manchmal gibt es lustige Dinge in #ubuntu zu lesen. Z. B. gerade: "[15:37]	<alexxander>	i'm in vietnam and facebook is blocked, can someone run through how i change my dns server to one which will give me access to blocked sites?" "[15:38]	<alexxander>	how do i change the dns i'm running on? i'm a total newb to linux" --  Und nun versuchen mindestens 4 Leute, ihm zu helfen.
[14:45] <iceroot> xskydevilx: there is an official mozilla ppa (somehwere on there site)
[14:45] <iceroot> !de | bullgard4
[14:45] <VictorCL> how can I set the cursor:hand to all click events of jquery automatically?
[14:46] <iceroot> bullgard4: und noch lustiger als die tatsache dass ihm 4 leute helfen ist die tatsache dass du copy&paste nicht beherscht .)
[14:46] <llutz_> bullgard4: very funny...
[14:46] <suigeneris> VictorCL: ##jquery
[14:46] <munchor> Where is the emacs config file in Ubuntu? I tried ~/.emacs.d/init.el and ~/.emacs and none worked :S Thanks in advance.
[14:46] <VictorCL> oh sorry xD
[14:47] <starn> i'm having an issue with Games... like unreal tournament 2004 and nexus and open arena and basically any game. when i try to move my mouse it snaps to a place and won't let me rotate or select stuff in menus for it's always moving.. someone suggest due to fact i have dual monitors but thats not the issue it does it on just one.. anyone have a suggestion?? or a place i can go to, to ask?
[14:47] <munchor> starn, using Wine?
[14:47] <starn> no.. native
[14:47] <munchor> have you tried a diff. mouse?
[14:48] <starn> most games in wine work fine.. other than sometimes they don't capture the mouse.
[14:48] <starn> i do not own any other mouse nor do i have the money to get a new one.
[14:48] <iceroot> starn: you are using ut2004, nexus and open-arena with wine?
[14:48] <iceroot> starn: ah sorry missread
[14:48] <starn> without wine.
[14:48] <theadmin> starn: Sounds like some graphic drivers and/or opengl issue
[14:48] <ManDay> iceroot: Looks like there is a chance that I was wrong - at least with that gcc-4.3 is a requirement. The alleged ERROR is just a WARNING and the subsequent failure does not necessarily have to come from the version mismatch.
[14:48] <starn> i prefer to run games natively if possible.
[14:49] <starn> i use nVidia..
[14:49] <iceroot> ManDay: nice to see that you post that
[14:49] <theadmin> starn: Do you have their drivers?
[14:49] <theadmin> starn: Or do you use the open-source ones?
[14:49] <iceroot> ManDay: not everyone is saying he was wrong
[14:50] <suigeneris> who can help me?
[14:50] <starn> i use the ones from additional drivers.
[14:50] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[14:50] <suigeneris> I've done something horrible and now I get 'Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery' during startup
[14:50] <budhyjim> wewewew
[14:50] <iceroot> suigeneris: on what device? swap? /? /home?
[14:51] <suigeneris> iceroot: / I think
[14:51] <iceroot> suigeneris: and what you done before?
[14:51] <suigeneris> iceroot: no clue
[14:51] <usr13> suigeneris: So, what did you do?
[14:52] <suigeneris> iceroot: I get GRUB menu, hit to boot ubuntu, and get that message in the end
[14:52] <suigeneris> usr13: ^^
[14:52] <iceroot> suigeneris: using encryption?
[14:52] <iceroot> suigeneris: done an update before?
[14:53] <suigeneris> iceroot: nope
[14:53] <nb-ben> that's a lot of text
[14:53] <suigeneris> says 'An error occurred while mounting /'
[14:53] <gwelter> alexxander: sudo vi /etc/resolv.conf
[14:53] <suigeneris> iceroot: ^^
[14:54] <alexxander> yeah i do: 208.67.220.220 should work if i can change to it
[14:54] <gwelter> alexxander: edit the nameserver to be 8.8.8.8 and save it
[14:54] <usr13> suigeneris: What partition is / on?
[14:54] <gwelter> alexxander: restart firefox
[14:54] <starn> i got lost.....
[14:54] <suigeneris> usr13: /dev/sda1
[14:54] <alexxander> ok buddy, but how do i do that/ like i said, total newb here...
[14:54] <usr13> suigeneris: boot the live cd and do   fsck -y /dev/sda1
[14:54] <nb-ben> alexxander, type the following: sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf
[14:55] <usr13> suigeneris: check all of them just to be sure.
[14:55] <nb-ben> then comment out all the lines
[14:55] <nb-ben> add this line: nameserver 8.8.8.8
[14:55] <nb-ben> CTRL + O and enter
[14:55] <nb-ben> and then CTRL + X
[14:55] <abu-bakr> hi again folks, so what would be the best method of mounting a network share as a local drive ?
[14:55] <suigeneris> usr13: I checked /dev/sda1 and it said 'No corruptions'
[14:56] <CipherX> nfs?
[14:56] <rhin0> you use nfs or samba abu-bak - samba to network to windows
[14:56] <abu-bakr> erm.. i am a noob .. you'll have to break it down for me :s
[14:56] <alexxander> ok i've typed in the new dns, how do i save it? or do i just close it now?
[14:56] <inashdeen> hi, may i know what is ubuntu minimal
[14:56] <rhin0> !nfs
[14:57] <gwelter> alexxander: save it like nb-ben said
[14:57] <suigeneris> alexxander: what  are you using?
[14:57] <rhin0> !samba
[14:57] <suigeneris> nano?
[14:57] <nb-ben> inashdeen, it's basically debian with an ugly window manager
[14:57] <alexxander> there's no option to save
[14:57] <alexxander> i'm using ubuntu 11.10
[14:57] <gwelter> alexxander: ctrl - x and type y to confirm saving
[14:57] <alexxander> **xubuntu
[14:57] <inashdeen> nb-ben : ?
[14:57] <nb-ben> that's my description for ubuntu minimal
[14:57] <usr13> suigeneris: Ok, a little earlier, you said: "I've done something horrible".  So, what did you do?
[14:57] <inashdeen> nb-ben : how about driver and dependencies issues? is it the same with ubuntu or debian?
[14:58] <suigeneris> usr13: absolutely no clue
[14:58] <nb-ben> I am unsure, but if you can do it on ubuntu you can do it on debian
[14:58] <nb-ben> might save some hassle in that matter inashdeen
[14:58] <usr13> suigeneris: If you have absolutely no clue what you did, how do you know it is horrible?
[14:58] <inashdeen> nb-ben : i dont really understand that. could you rephrase if you dont mind :)
[14:59] <usr13> suigeneris: Did you try to boot again?
[14:59] <nb-ben> inashdeen, the ubuntu philosophy does support that it might be configuring your hardware automatically better
[14:59] <krnl> hi
[14:59] <wolfmitchell> Is there a beta version of Ubuntu out currently?
[14:59] <iceroot> wolfmitchell: no
[15:00] <wolfmitchell> Ok
[15:00] <abu-bakr> rhin0, thanks.. mine are all ubuntu machines
[15:00] <usr13> suigeneris: Could be that YOU didn't do anything at all.  Could be that you are simply experiencing a normal hardware issue,  (a hard drive failure).
[15:00] <nb-ben> inashdeen, but I have not tested it myself to give you backed statement, so I refrained from claming it does
[15:00] <wolfmitchell> Thanks
[15:00] <rhin0> well you use nfs then abu-bakr
[15:00] <abu-bakr> ok..
[15:00] <iceroot> wolfmitchell: #ubuntu+1  "just" an alpha-version
[15:00] <inashdeen> nb-ben : so where can i actually get this ubuntu minimal?
[15:00] <rhin0> it's not a "local drive" it's a drive mount
[15:00] <nb-ben> inashdeen, how do you connect to the internet?
[15:00] <abu-bakr> k
[15:01] <inashdeen> nb-ben : usb modem
[15:01] <nb-ben> inashdeen, you could download the bootonly and perform a netinstall
[15:01] <krnl> i'm triing to forward my local port 80 behind router to my server on public ip to port 8080. the command is: "ssh -R 8080:127.0.0.1:80 myserver" it listens on 8080 but only on 127.0.0.1 on remote server and cant access it from other computer. what am i doing wrong?
[15:01] <nb-ben> hmm
[15:01] <nb-ben> usb wireless adapter?
[15:01] <BluesKaj> wolfmitchell, there's an 12.04 alpha out that's more stable than the beta 11.10 was.
[15:01] <inashdeen> nb-ben : so that is minimal :S sight
[15:01] <nb-ben> if so then it's a cross fingers thing whether it will work or not
[15:01] <wolfmitchell> Blues-Link it?
[15:01] <nb-ben> no inashdeen , it's not the same ubuntu installation
[15:01] <nb-ben> you can install the complete ubuntu from a netinstall
[15:01] <aguitel> how install video driver for my card: amd 128 rage ?
[15:01] <BluesKaj> wolfmitchell, iceroot, just did
[15:02] <abu-bakr> BluesKaj, i can believe that,,,
[15:02] <abu-bakr> /me is still traumatised by 11:10... and using 11:04 on all his machines
[15:02] <inashdeen> nb-ben : wait, i think i am lost again, how is different then?
[15:02] <nb-ben> instead of choosing "Ubuntu Desktop" when it asks you what to install, you choose "Ubuntu Minimal"
[15:02] <nb-ben> or something similar to that
[15:02] <aways> Hi all
[15:02] <aways> I'am running on natty 11.04
[15:02] <wolfmitchell> Can't find the link
[15:02] <nb-ben> it doesn't install all the things that could be unnecessary to a user
[15:02] <aways> Where I can found minidlna pls ...
[15:03] <aways> Maybe he have a new name ?
[15:03] <nb-ben> search youtube for "ubuntu minimal" if you wanna get a good grip as to what it is
[15:03] <TiMiDo> lol
[15:03] <aways> on stedy6 it's not available for natty
[15:03] <BluesKaj> abu-bakr, I'm on 12.04 , and except for the odd crash at shutdown I'm quite happy with it so far.
[15:04] <usr13> inashdeen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[15:04] <wolfmitchell> BluesKaj: I can't find the link anywhere.
[15:04] <BluesKaj> wolfmitchell, the link is on #ubuntu+1
[15:04] <nb-ben> BluesKaj, I just installed on a laptop and it crashed on shutdown as well I think
[15:04] <abu-bakr> BluesKaj, cool.. does it still have a gnome desktop.. (unity i can use but its just too much for a staff environment
[15:04] <nb-ben> thought it might just be something I did that would refuse to terminate
[15:04] <inashdeen> usr13: thanks, but i've read that. that is why i am asking, other than saving a bit more of 50mb, what difference does it make? http://www.ubuntu.org.uy/
[15:05] <abu-bakr> rhin0, so how would I go about performing a 'drive mount' on my normal nfs system?
[15:05] <inashdeen> sorry, wrong link =.='
[15:05] <BluesKaj> abu-bakr, i beleive so , I use kde
[15:05] <voldyman> can anyone tell me where can i get good lightdm theme???? plz
[15:05] <nb-ben> inashdeen, it doesn't make much difference unless you are disgusted by all the eye candy, very minimal on disk space, and don't wanna see apps that you never use -- ever
[15:06] <abu-bakr> Ok rhin0 has left, anyone: so how would I go about performing a 'drive mount' on my normal nfs system?
[15:06] <usr13> inashdeen: Doesn't make any difference, it's just a smaller ISO
[15:06] <wolfmitchell> I'm installing 12.04 into a virtualbox. 12.04 inside 11.10......Ubuntuception.
[15:06] <inashdeen> nb-ben : hurm, ok then :( sigh~  sorry for asking here now, how do i get into #fedora. i end up in fedora-unregistered just now
[15:06] <nb-ben> register your nick
[15:07] <llutz_> !register | inashdeen
[15:07] <nb-ben> but this is a #freenode matter, so ask about it there
[15:07] <voldyman> can anyone tell me where can i get good lightdm theme???? plz
[15:07] <nb-ben> inashdeen, I just figured you might have been talking about the minimal -CD-
[15:07] <voldyman> nothing at google
[15:07] <nb-ben> and not the minimal -desktop-
[15:07] <BluesKaj> wolfmitchell, chancy at best in a VB
[15:07] <inashdeen> nb-ben : yeah
[15:08] <nb-ben> if you are talking about the minimal cd, then it just doesn't have some packages on it
[15:08] <wolfmitchell> Why?
[15:08] <nb-ben> you will use the internet to get those missing packages
[15:08] <BluesKaj> stability
[15:08] <wolfmitchell> Ah.
[15:08] <nb-ben> unless you want the CD to have packages for an offline installation, there is no difference to you
[15:08] <nb-ben> since you will probably want to update the packages on the cd after installing them anyway
[15:09] <inashdeen> nb-ben : what kind of package, and where can i get it?the iso i mean
[15:09] <Pici> !who
[15:09] <nb-ben> http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=ubuntu+minimal+cd&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[15:09] <voldyman> is it possible to install gdm themes in ubuntu 11.10
[15:09] <nb-ben> first result is it lol
[15:10] <nb-ben> yes voldyman
[15:10] <abu-bakr> !tab
[15:10] <voldyman> HOW???
[15:10] <BluesKaj> normally the official releases are recommended for VB , due to updates/upgrades required on alpha/beta releases , which sometimes don't play so nice on VB setups wolfmitchell
[15:10] <wolfmitchell> How do I put a user into a group on 11.10
[15:10] <abu-bakr> oh .. nice
[15:10] <wolfmitchell> Qh
[15:10] <nb-ben> wolfmitchell, same way as with every other ubuntu
[15:10] <wolfmitchell> *Ah
[15:10] <llutz_> wolfmitchell: sudo adduser user group
[15:11] <nb-ben> wolfmitchell, or usermod if the user exists but you want to change their group
[15:11] <abu-bakr> Ok rhin0 has left, anyone: so how would I go about performing a 'drive mount' ?
[15:11] <llutz_> usermod is a nice way to mess up your sudo-users
[15:11] <nb-ben> or you could manually edit /etc/passwd as root if you're into doing things wrong
[15:11] <nb-ben> yep
[15:11] <abu-bakr> nb-ben: lol
[15:11] <geirha> abu-bakr: What's a "drive mount"?
[15:11] <diatomaceous> Hi everyone.  My computer isn't starting X successfully about 66% of the time.  I just have to keep rebooting until it works.  Here are the juicy bits of Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/fgzf36Kz.
[15:11] <diatomaceous> "
[15:12] <voldyman> nb-ben, how do i install gdm theme?
[15:12] <abu-bakr> geirha: just trying to get a network share loaded locally , similar to a local drive
[15:12] <abu-bakr> but ive been told its called a 'drive mount' :P
[15:12] <nb-ben> voldyman, http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=install+gdm+themes+on+ubuntu&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[15:12] <nb-ben> lol
[15:12] <voldyman> nb-ben, real classy
[15:12] <nb-ben> well you didn't do it yourself
[15:12] <nb-ben> and to know this is what I would have to do
[15:13] <voldyman> try lmgtfy.com
[15:13] <Pici> nb-ben: If you don't know the answer to a question, you don't need to answer.
[15:13] <nb-ben> the answer is google
[15:13] <nb-ben> to 90% of the questions
[15:13] <voldyman> well i tried google but nothing for 11.10
[15:13] <Pici> !google | nb-ben
[15:14] <nb-ben> most likely someone else wrote an answer better than me somewhere on the web
[15:14] <nb-ben> I don't tell them to google, I google for them
[15:14] <geirha> abu-bakr: Ah, you add a line to /etc/fstab, something like:  192.168.0.1:/sharename /media/somedir nfs rw,hard,intr,netdev 0 0
[15:14] <Pici> voldyman: 11.10 doesn't use GDM by default, we use lightdm.
[15:14] <abu-bakr> Does anyone know how  I can go about performing a 'drive mount' ?
[15:14] <nb-ben> while a confused mind might mistake between the two, they are different things
[15:14] <voldyman> i know i couldn't find lightdm greeters so i installed gdm
[15:14] <abu-bakr> oh geirha, thanks for that
[15:15] <geirha> abu-bakr: Assuming you mean you want it mounted all the time
[15:15] <wolfmitchell> I don't have the userman command
[15:15] <abu-bakr> geirha: yes,, but i would prefer a GUI way of doing it if poss
[15:15] <Pici> voldyman: I don't believe  that the version of GDM that we ship (and that GNOME supports) supports the old gdm themes.
[15:15] <Ziggy`> Would you guys advice me against upgrading ubuntu from ssh?
[15:15] <abu-bakr> or minimal command line.. (eye ate tha command line!!!)
[15:16] <llutz_> wolfmitchell: if you don't even know that the app is called "usermod" you shouldn't use it at all. use adduser
[15:16] <Gentoo64> Ziggy`, should be no different to normal
[15:16] <geirha> abu-bakr: I'm afraid I don't know of any GUIs to do that. They may exist though.
[15:16] <voldyman> so i should remove gdm and find lightdm greeters????
[15:16] <Pici> Ziggy`: I do it. But ymmv.
[15:16] <wolfmitchell> ...
[15:16] <Ziggy`> Gentoo64: If the internet goes off, will it keep going?
[15:16] <Ziggy`> Gentoo64: I'm upgrading from 9.1 to latest
[15:16] <Gentoo64> Ziggy`, i think the upgrades are nteractive
[15:16] <nb-ben> Ziggy`, if something breaks and SSH doesn't work, is there somebody you can call to fix it?
[15:16] <Gentoo64> Ziggy`, so it could be risky
[15:17] <Ziggy`> nb-ben: most likely not atm..
[15:17] <voldyman> Pici, any site you know with a good lightm theme? gnome-look.org had nothing
[15:17] <Pici> Ziggy`: I highly suggest running the upgrade in a screen session.
[15:17] <geirha> abu-bakr: This should also be worth a read: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo#NFS_Client
[15:17] <nb-ben> well assuming it does break, will it be okay if it's being fixed later?
[15:17] <Gentoo64> yeah
[15:17] <SEABird> Any grub2 wizards or guru? pvt me
[15:17] <Pici> voldyman: I've never looked for one, sorry.  I thought that we had some greeter packages in the repositories  though.
[15:17] <Ziggy`> nb-ben: Not really :/
[15:17] <SEABird> please
[15:17] <nb-ben> then way for later to be now
[15:17] <nb-ben> and upgrade later
[15:18] <voldyman> i'll try
[15:18] <voldyman> thanks pici
[15:18] <Ziggy`> Okay, I'm gonna need a solution then for now to at least upgrade a few packages,.
[15:18] <VictorCL> I have many problems opeinng rar file s.. always 20% of files I try to uncompresss fail
[15:18] <the_> grub wizars:ubuntu server4 reload dik follow through
[15:18] <nb-ben> Ziggy`, upgrading specific non-critical packages is fine
[15:19] <BluesKaj> SEABird, best to just ask your question in the channel , support here isn't exclusive
[15:19] <nb-ben> I thoguht you wanted to do a kernel upgrade or something that could potentially kick you out of OpenSSH
[15:19] <Ziggy`> nb-ben: "... is already the newest version", Do I need to change my sources.list to get a newer version? I know a newer version has been released.
[15:19] <Ziggy`> nb-ben: I do, but I'll wait for it atm.
[15:19] <SEABird> Thanks BluesKaj
[15:19] <nb-ben> Ziggy`, well, it's normally better to wait until the packages are being added to ubuntu and not go bleeding edge
[15:20] <Gentoo64> Ziggy`, tbh if you're upgrading from 9 to 11 its got a high chance of breaking even without ssh
[15:20] <Gentoo64> or are you sdtaying on 9?
[15:20] <nb-ben> unless you really need it then just don't upgrade
[15:20] <Ziggy`> Gentoo64: I'll let 9.10 do for now, just upgraded from a way older version.
[15:20] <Pici> Ziggy`: You may want to upgrade just to 10.04 and then to 12.04 when it is released.
[15:21] <SEABird> I need to remove grub2 from a 11.10 install - any warnings about damaging boot sector if I do on dual boot Win7/Ubuntu machine?
[15:21] <wolfmitchell> Added my user to the 'vboxusers' group.
[15:22] <nb-ben> SEABird, make a USB stick with grub on it
[15:22] <nb-ben> and write down the boot commands for both windows/linux
[15:22] <BluesKaj> SEABird, why do you "need" to remove grub?
[15:22] <nficano> I'm using ubuntu 10.04, and notice SOME aptitude package are buggy, and I find myself downloading the lastest ones and compiling them fom the source. This got me wonder whether or not appending references for up-to-date versions to sources.list is considered bad practice, and if so, what's the generally accepted alternative?
[15:22] <Gentoo64> SEABird, i take it you're installling windows 7 after ubuntu?
[15:22] <Gentoo64> if so jjust reinstall grub
[15:24] <nb-ben> nficano, shouldn't be buggy
[15:24] <the_> put disk in drive as if to reinstall server;instructions for grub come up without destroying data-all extra grub will be ersed and it'll be as brand new
[15:25] <nficano> well I noticed it with rabbitmq specifically, perhaps that was an anomaly
[15:27] <nficano> nb-ben: but sounds like leaving this as-is is a discouraged practice, so you more or less answered my question. thanks!
[15:28] <nficano> nb-ben: altering it rather excuse me*
[15:28] <Pici> nficano: What sort of sources are you adding to your sources.list?
[15:28] <SEABird> I want to kill 11.04 - Unity is unstable and Software Center disappears, and launcher is clunky - want to remove total install and go back to BSD
[15:28] <Pici> nficano: You shouldn't mix repositories intended for newer releases of Ubuntu with an older release.
[15:28] <JosephHarrietha> Hmm, is there anyway to get nautilus to have the behaviour of, "If I copy 1.png into a directory with a 1.png, it gives me the option to rename the file to 1(1).png and do so for all conflicting files"
[15:29] <Gentoo64> SEABird, ok
[15:29] <abu-bakr> geirha: thanks for the link. I think that's just what i needed :)
[15:29] <Gentoo64> go back to bsd then :/
[15:29] <nb-ben> nficano, packages in the ubuntu repositories should not be buggy unless you have some driver issues or modified things to break them from installing correctly
[15:29] <mattybats> how do i disable wpa_supplicant temporarily while running network-manager? (10.04)
[15:29] <nb-ben> nficano, anything from other repositories is a different deal
[15:29] <JosephHarrietha> Sorta like the windows behaviour. Its one of the few things that keeps me using windows. If you want to see what I mean, make 1.png 2.png and 3.png on windows, and copy them to a folder, then move the orginals into that folder, and look at the third option
[15:30] <alvasrawuther> I'm having problems with making a persistent Ubuntu Live USB Drive. Can anyone help me?
[15:30] <SEABird> problem is I cannot uninstall grub2
[15:30] <CipherX> ubuntu sayz bai
[15:30] <nb-ben> nficano, and if a package from an ubuntu repository is being buggy, you should submit it as a bug to the bug tracker
[15:30] <Gentoo64> SEABird, install bsd itll ioverride it
[15:30] <CipherX> yea any installs you do on bsd will overwrite that stuff
[15:31] <SEABird> okay, I will try but I am a
[15:31] <CipherX> pirate?
[15:31] <CipherX> ninja?
[15:31] <JosephHarrietha> Duck?
[15:31] <Pici> !ot
[15:31] <CipherX> lol
[15:31] <Gentoo64> duck billed platypus?
[15:31] <edbian> l33t haxor
[15:32] <JosephHarrietha> Pirate Ninja Duck Billed Platypus?
[15:32] <coz_> !offtopic
[15:32] <Pici> And now back to your requglarly scheduled support channel.
[15:32] <CipherX> apparently he is someone who leaves without completing his sentences
[15:32] <edbian> !offtopic-but-funny
[15:33] <nb-ben> !otbf
[15:33] <nficano> ah okay, I was building out a new box, figured I'd inquire about best practice regarding adding newer sources to lists since I've had problems with versions of redis and rabbitmq I've installed with aptitude in the past
[15:33] <JosephHarrietha> -.^ okay, so does anybody have an awnser about my question from befor?
[15:33] <Pici> nficano: Again, what do you mean by 'newer sources'?
[15:33] <edbian> JosephHarrietha, I wasn't here.  What's your question?
[15:34] <JosephHarrietha> Hmm, is there anyway to get nautilus to have the behaviour of, "If I copy 1.png into a directory with a 1.png, it gives me the option to rename the file to 1(1).png and do so for all conflicting files"
[15:34] <JosephHarrietha> Sorta like the windows behaviour. Its one of the few things that keeps me using windows. If you want to see what I mean, make 1.png 2.png and 3.png on windows, and copy them to a folder, then move the orginals into that folder, and look at the third option
[15:34] <nb-ben> Pici, like adding the wine repository to get the bleeding edge version of wine
[15:34] <Gentoo64> ppas arent supported tho
[15:34] <Pici> nb-ben: As long as those repositories are designed for that particular release of Ubuntu.
[15:34] <tomodach1> JosephHarrietha: i dont know of such a feature at least, but i think midnight commander has the feature built in
[15:34] <JosephHarrietha> Question, why is it called "Bleeding edge" .... that sounds a little... sadistic?
[15:35] <tomodach1> at least it had when I used it in dos
[15:35] <nb-ben> nficano, in your case I'd probably just compile those specific  packages
[15:35] <tomodach1> JosephHarrietha: because it sometimes is
[15:35] <nb-ben> better than fiddling with your sources list
[15:35] <JosephHarrietha> tomodach1, Okay.... Does nautilus have an API or something I could use to code such a feauture, and will it work with C++ or objective-C ?
[15:35] <Pici> nb-ben: I completely disagree.
[15:36] <JosephHarrietha> Okay, ObjectC obviously not... but... heh, ive been wrong before.
[15:36] <xpc> hi cvk. az egochat ures:-(
[15:36] <Gentoo64> nb-ben, installing stuff from source mixing with a distro that has a package manager is a mess
[15:36] <Gentoo64> id avoid it
[15:36] <nficano> ok for lucis the lastest verison of redis is 2.1.2, but according to their site, 2.4.4 is the lastest stable version
[15:36] <nb-ben> it's only a mess if you make a mess
[15:36] <Pici> nb-ben: It is safer to use package mangagement whenever possible.
[15:36] <edbian> JosephHarrietha, There are nautilus extensions and nautilus scripts.  google a little and you'll find both
[15:36] <edbian> JosephHarrietha, You could write one yourself but there might already be one that does what you want.  I've never really used them so I can't say for sure.
[15:36] <Pici> nficano: Despite PPA's being "unsupported" I highly suggest them over installing from source.
[15:37] <tomodach1> JosephHarrietha: I dont know , you should check in the dev chan for nautilus possibly, ojective c? i doubt it
[15:37] <edbian> JosephHarrietha, tomodach1 nautilus is written in c
[15:37] <JosephHarrietha> edbian, Thanks :) I look around. I have to reinstall windows soon... I may have kinda..sorta...maybe killed it when I was writing a virus to see if I could......
[15:37] <nb-ben> we got a hacker on our hands..
[15:38] <nb-ben> ;)
[15:38] <edbian> JosephHarrietha, If this is the only feature that's holding you back I suggest you forget about it.
[15:38] <nficano> Pici: alright, will do - but for my own edification, why?
[15:38] <edbian> nficano, for one, packages installed via a PPA can always be uninstalled
[15:38] <nb-ben> and others can't?
[15:38] <Gentoo64> nb-ben, they can ofc
[15:39] <nb-ben> so how is that a +
[15:39] <Gentoo64> but ppas that way everything ios apt-get remove
[15:39] <Pici> nficano: Because unless you know what you are doing, package management makes it easier to manage dependencies and uninstallation than building from source .
[15:39] <Gentoo64> its all the same
[15:39] <nb-ben> also
[15:39] <JosephHarrietha> edbian, Can't, it's something I use daily. I have a a directory of over 1000 files that have names 1.png, 2.png , etc untill 12. and I add new ones to it daily with the same names, that all need to be renamed. I add them in batches of 50-80
[15:39] <nb-ben> why would you need to remove it
[15:39] <nb-ben> you can just stop using it
[15:39] <Pici> nb-ben: Many source packages do not provide a make uninstall target.
[15:39] <nb-ben> and your package manager can overwrite it if it needs to
[15:39] <edbian> JosephHarrietha, alright.  too bad :(  hopefully there is a script / extensions
[15:39] <Pici> nb-ben: Thats not always feasible or desired.
[15:39] <nb-ben> you could want to remove it, which is also fine
[15:39] <nb-ben> and you can
[15:40] <nb-ben> but except for saving disk space there is no need
[15:40] <JosephHarrietha> edbian, I'll probably figure out a small script to do it for me with bash or something if not. I'd rather not work with the gnome people again... Lmao.
[15:40] <edbian> JosephHarrietha, for the record you could probably whip up a bash / python script that does this sort of thing for you (possibly easier than the gui in windows)
[15:40] <Peyam> hej please help me connect my computer to my tv.
[15:40] <edbian> :P
[15:40] <Peyam> with hdmi
[15:40] <Gentoo64> nb-ben, you dont seem to understand why peopel prefer package managers. thats why 99% of distros have one
[15:40] <nb-ben> you can't break your OS by manually installing something that is not previously installed by the package manager
[15:40] <JosephHarrietha> Alright, thanks, byye. Off to enjoy windows non-live installation...... Ugh.
[15:40] <nficano> Pici: absolutely, but ease of management doesn't really outweight stability (in the case of rabbitMQ), is there any other benefits?
[15:40] <nb-ben> if it's already installed, then ya, you might break
[15:40] <Pici> nb-ben: yes you can.
[15:41] <nb-ben> but not that you can't remove and reinstall
[15:41] <nb-ben> how
[15:41] <Gentoo64> nb-ben, most packages are either in the official repos, or in ppa. so why use source oveer them
[15:41] <nb-ben> tell me what to do to break my system
[15:41] <Pici> nb-ben: Discarding that, no. If you feel comfortable with it you may install from source.
[15:41] <nb-ben> by installing a package, that is not previously installed
[15:41] <edbian> nb-ben, If you install something from source you don't always know where it dumps files.  Things go everywhere in linux.  That's why having a package manager is great.  It can uninstall with one button instead of a laborious search and purge
[15:41] <edbian> nb-ben, And that's just one feature
[15:42] <nb-ben> edbian, if I took the time to manually install it
[15:42] <nb-ben> I probably took the time to manually configure it
[15:42] <nb-ben> so I do know where it dumps
[15:42] <edbian> nb-ben, so?  How does that determine where all the files went?
[15:42] <edbian> nb-ben, So you write this all down?  so that when you uninstall 3 years later you can look it back up and then cd all around and rm stuff?  The package manager is doing this all for you
[15:42] <pangolin> Guys this is going into off topic territory
[15:42] <Pici> nficano: There are many places where files can go that will change the what
[15:42] <nb-ben> I suppose for someone who doesn't know how to look at a makefile that makes sense
[15:42] <edbian> nb-ben, It really is objectively easier
[15:42] <Pici> pangolin: You're right.
[15:43] <nb-ben> pangolin, we are discussing ubuntu best practices
[15:43] <nb-ben> if we were on slackware this topic would be irrelevant
[15:43] <edbian> nb-ben, Even if you do read the make-file, using the package manager to uninstall is easier
[15:43] <Gentoo64> nb-ben, its all about how much easier package managers make things thats all
[15:43] <Pici> We're really moving into discussion territory.  I'd be glad to continue in #ubuntu-offtopic though.
[15:43] <pangolin> the best practice is to use the package manager. End of story as far as ubuntu is concerned, further discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[15:43] <nb-ben> alright
[15:44] <nficano> pangolin: ok, thank you - accepted as far as I'm concerted.
[15:45] <pangolin> thank you all for understanding :)
[15:45] <edbian> I do not understand with great severity!!
[15:46] <abu-bakrLaptop> !clone
[15:47] <edbian> hahaha
[15:47] <edbian> how simple and easy that is!
[15:47] <Peyam> please soomebody help me
[15:47] <Peyam> with my hdmi.
[15:48] <edbian> Peyam, you plugged this thing into both ends right?
[15:48] <Peyam> edbian:  tes
[15:48] <Peyam> yes
[15:48] <edbian> Peyam, the hdmi cable?  Turn the TV on, make sure the cable is plugged in, restart the machine (all the while leaving the cable plugged in and the TV on)
[15:48] <abu-bakrLaptop> !clone
[15:48] <Peyam> edbian: Ive tried it
[15:48] <Peyam> nothing happens
[15:49] <edbian> Peyam, does the machine boot up normally?
[15:49] <abu-bakrLaptop> !clone
[15:49] <Peyam> no. I cant hear nything
[15:49] <edbian> Peyam, i.e. the laptop monitor is on normally and the TV is not on?
[15:49] <Peyam> edbian: t is a desktop computer
[15:49] <wolfmitchell> I thought that the torrent would have hundreds of peers for 12.04
[15:49] <edbian> Peyam, you can't hear anything?  Did you expect to hear things?
[15:49] <edbian> Peyam, ok, does the desktop monitor come on like normal?
[15:49] <Peyam> edbian:  nothing . i can hear and see anythin
[15:49] <edbian> Peyam, What did you expect to hear?
[15:50] <Peyam> edbian: I use my tv as a monitor.
[15:50] <edbian> Peyam, ...
[15:50] <edbian> what?
[15:50] <Peyam> edbian:  I wan see the screen . everything as I do with a vga
[15:50] <edbian> Peyam, yeah, I get that.  What are you expecting to hear?  You said you can't hear anything?
[15:50] <Peyam> Peyam:  well the startup voice..
[15:51] <diatomaceous> Hi everyone.  My computer isn't starting X successfully about 66% of the time.  I just have to keep rebooting until it works.  Here are the juicy bits of Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/fgzf36Kz.
[15:52] <edbian> Peyam, ok, nevermind.  Unplug the cable, restart the machine, then open the 'displays' gui thingy (assuming you're running Ubuntu 11.04)
[15:52] <stevegza> hi does anybody know what time the ZA Monthly irc meeting is tonight
[15:52] <Peyam> edbian: 11.10 ive done it many times.
[15:52] <edbian> Peyam, sorry, yeah 11.10
[15:53] <edbian> Peyam, open the gui settings for 'displays' plug the cable in, turn on the TV, and then click 'detect displays'
[15:53] <edbian> and see if the TV comes up,
[15:53] <Peyam> edbian:  I have one tv. the vga cable should be plugged in.
[15:54] <Peyam> edbian: And it will detect the tv via vga
[15:54] <edbian> Peyam, umm, are we using hdmi or vga ?
[15:55] <Peyam> edbian:  right now vga . becouse I cant see anything with hdmi
[15:55] <edbian> Peyam, oohhh, I see.  You have 1 monitor.  It's on VGA and you want to use HDMI with it?
[15:55] <edbian> Peyam, that's a much tougher problem...
[15:55] <Peyam> edbian: yes
[15:55] <edbian> Peyam, I'm not sure.  I've never done anything like this!
[15:55] <edbian> :(
[15:55] <edbian> sorry
[15:55] <Peyam> :(
[15:56] <abu-bakr> !ssh
[15:57] <wolfmitchell> !scp
[15:58] <CipherX> !sudo rmdir /*
[15:58] <abu-bakr> anyone work with ssh?
[15:58] <devsys> hey all -- I have a permissions question. I have a directory which has userA as the user and GroupA as the group. I want to set it so that when UserA creates a file in this directory, it inherits the permissions from GroupA as well. I did a chmod g+s which got me halfway there -- new files are now in the groupA group, but the permissons are not set. What am I missing?
[15:58] <edbian> CipherX, ?
[15:58] <edbian> abu-bakr, all the time!
[15:59] <ManDay> Does anyone know how to solve the error   /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lstdc++ ?
[15:59] <llutz_> devsys: use POSIX acl (getfacl, setfacl). you cannot do it with limited linux-permissions
[15:59] <abu-bakr> edbian: cool.. i'm trying to get Rsync on this machine to backup home directories on other ubuntu machines.. was thinking i might use ssh to create a drive mount?
[15:59] <abu-bakr> or is there an easier way edbian
[16:00] <devsys> llutz_: OK I'll have tio google I'm tottally in the dark
[16:00] <edbian> abu-bakr, yeah, rsync user@remote-machine:/some/path/ /some/local/path
[16:00] <edbian> abu-bakr, You can just talk about remote machines like that and it will ssh for you and copy things to /some/local/path/
[16:00] <abu-bakr> edbian: ok.. so i dont need to install anything?
[16:00] <edbian> abu-bakr, the remote machine must be an ssh server (which is not installed by default)
[16:00] <edbian> abu-bakr, the local machine needs rsync, (IDK if that's installed)
[16:01] <kernelpanicker> I chmodded /etc/sudoers to 740, not knowing about visudo, and now all users are locked out.  It's on a VM so using a CD is not going to be easy... helpity help.
[16:01] <abu-bakr> aah edbian, thought so.. now since it has the term 'server' in it.. will it have a large impact on the remote machines performance?
[16:01] <devsys> getfacl
[16:01] <devsys> whoops
[16:01] <edbian> abu-bakr, no
[16:01] <abu-bakr> as i will be having to do this on all remote machines..
[16:02] <edbian> abu-bakr, If you do a lot of rsync's from this server at once it will become slow (perhaps obviously
[16:02] <root_wensa> bagaimana cara menampilkan menu accessoris yang hilang di ubuntu ?
[16:02] <Pici> !id | root_wensa
[16:02] <abu-bakr> ok.. i don't mind this machine becoming slow when syncing.. their only small 2 min syncs
[16:03] <abu-bakr> but i want to avoid any additional load on the user machines
[16:03] <edbian> abu-bakr, then it won't make the machine slow.  It will probably make the network all these machines are sharing slow
[16:03] <edbian> abu-bakr, The load on the user machines in minimal using rysnc
[16:03] <root_wensa> thanks Pici
[16:03] <abu-bakr> edbian: .. and the ssh server?
[16:03] <edbian> abu-bakr, You will not notice a difference while it is rsyncing on the client if there is only one rsync process going
[16:03] <edbian> abu-bakr, the ssh server will become slow if there are many rsync processes going at once
[16:04] <abu-bakr> ic.. only one way to find out for sure..
[16:04] <edbian> abu-bakr, that's right!
[16:04] <mzaza> I have installed php5, apache2, mysql-client, mysql-server & phpmyadmin. I tried running a PHP site an it worked probably. But when I tried running a PHP site which connects to mysql database all what I get is a blank white page. I have tested this site on windows machine running xamp and it worked probably. Any ideas?
[16:04] <abu-bakr> i'll go ahead and install it.. and the ssh server will run all the time right?
[16:04] <mneptok> edbian: the host machine could also become slow if rsync is asked to sync 50,000,000,000 1K files, and has to build that list.
[16:05] <mzaza> Only the <title> tags showup
[16:05] <edbian> abu-bakr, yeah, that's the nature of a server.  It is always running waiting for connections
[16:05] <edbian> mneptok, oh really!  Never knew that :)
[16:05] <root_wensa> how to display the menu accessoris missing in ubuntu?
[16:05] <abu-bakr> mneptok: lol :)
[16:06] <mzaza> Any ideas?
[16:06] <mneptok> edbian: if you are being sarcastic, and you *did* know that, your comment "then it won't make the machine slow" was a misfire. :)
[16:06] <abu-bakr> ok.. guys.. sorry to be a pain about this.. but is there at all a less impactful way to mount a remote share on this machine to be able to rsync than the remote ssh servers?
[16:07] <edbian> mneptok, no, honestly, didn't know that :)
[16:07] <edbian> mneptok, you're right
[16:07] <edbian> abu-bakr, no (I don't it)
[16:07] <edbian> abu-bakr, this is probably the lightest weight way
[16:07] <abu-bakr> cool
[16:07] <mneptok> edbian: that "building file list" part of an rsync goes by quickly. until it doesn't. and the sysadmin is sitting there looking at it build a list, and thinking "no lunch today" ;)
[16:08] <edbian> abu-bakr, Additionally, I doubt you will notice any slow-ness while you're rsyncing
[16:08] <thegladiator> any software for night display in laptops ?
[16:08] <edbian> mneptok, haha
[16:08] <mneptok> abu-bakr: the only performance downside with SSH is also one of it's greatest upsides. encryption.
[16:08] <jutnux> Howdy ho.
[16:08] <edbian> abu-bakr, we're splitting hairs.  Try it and see how little it affects the speed of the machine
[16:09] <abu-bakr> ok apt-get gave me 3 options..
[16:09] <abu-bakr> is it the openssh one i should go for?
[16:09] <abu-bakr> edbian, you're right.. thanks
[16:09] <mneptok> abu-bakr: openssh-server
[16:10] <abu-bakr> thegladiator, there is something out there.. was an item on 'the gadget show' UK channel 5.. (it uses plenty cpu though for some users)
[16:11] <abu-bakr> thegladiator: you mean to adjust the display for night time usage ?
[16:11] <heri> www.facebook.com
[16:11] <Guest56133> localhost
[16:12] <Guest56133> lnl
[16:12] <deej1976> Guest56133, Do you have a question about ubuntu ?
[16:12] <mneptok> Livermore National Labs?
[16:12] <Guest56133> pkbm-provinsi.co.id
[16:12] <mneptok> Guest56133: please stop
[16:12] <abu-bakr> whats the deal with the weblinks?
[16:12] <Guest56133> o
[16:13] <Guest56133> pkbm-provinsi.co.id
[16:13] <abu-bakr> trying to see how quick the kick is?
[16:13] <llutz_> too slow obviously
[16:13] <abu-bakr> lol
[16:15] <abu-bakr> ermm.. ok.. the ssh service is running and i think the terminal said the keys have been created? but how do i stick them into rsync on this machine?
[16:16] <yumbo> abu-bakr, look in your ssh config
[16:16] <abu-bakr> oic..
[16:16] <abu-bakr> erm, yumbo is there a GUI way of doing that?
[16:16] <llutz_> !info grsync | abu-bakr
[16:16] <conntrack> :(
[16:17] <yumbo> abu-bakr: gksu gedit /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[16:17] <yumbo> llutz: not really helping?
[16:17] <abu-bakr> yumbo: thanks, that file should contain a key I copy over to this machine??
[16:17] <llutz_> yumbo: if one asks for GUI editor, he won't be happy with rsync
[16:18] <abu-bakr> lol
[16:18] <mneptok> abu-bakr: you only need to deal with keys if you are going to use key-based authentication. if you use passwords, you don;t need to do anything.
[16:18] <llutz_> abu-bakr: ssh-copy-id   to spread your key to the hosts
[16:18] <abu-bakr> well rsync works for the local backup but now need to do remote machines
[16:18] <mneptok> abu-bakr: and host keys really never get moved anywhere
[16:18] <xskydevilx> What does this mean? * AJ_Z0 has quit (*.net *.split)
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[16:18] <FloodBot1> xskydevilx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[16:18] <yumbo> abu-bakr, I have rsync setup myself, dont need to fiddle with keys really
[16:18] <somsip> !netsplit | xskydevilx
[16:18] <mneptok> abu-bakr: go to the machine that does NOT have an ssh server
[16:19] <yumbo> abu-bakr, it automatically uses the password of the user who started the rsync server
[16:19] <abu-bakr> ok cool
[16:19] <mneptok> abu-bakr: rsync -avh -e ssh --delete /path/to/original /path/to/backup/
[16:20] <abu-bakr> i'm on the machine (client) that has rsync running and want to backup a remote machine using its ssh server ..
[16:20] <mneptok> abu-bakr: add "user@host:" before the path on the machine WITH ssh
[16:20] <diatomaceous> Hi everyone.  My computer isn't starting X successfully about 66% of the time.  I just have to keep rebooting until it works.  Here are the juicy bits of Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/fgzf36Kz.  Could someone please help?
[16:21] <abu-bakr> right ..
[16:21]  * abu-bakr is confused
[16:21] <somsip> quit
[16:21] <mneptok> abu-bakr: so you are on a machine WITHOUT ssh, and you will be backing up the machine WITH ssh?
[16:21] <wolfmitchell> Lol. I told the guy wanting to install the worlt to run "sudo apt-get install * && sudo rm -rf /"
[16:21] <wolfmitchell> He ran it
[16:21] <abu-bakr> mneptok: yep
[16:21] <mneptok> wolfmitchell: unfunny, and mentioning that command again will get you banned.
[16:21] <abu-bakr> wolfmitchell: and thats funny because?
[16:22] <xskydevilx> I've been having this problem when trying to install Chrome. http://paste.ubuntu.com/776488/
[16:22] <llutz_> wolfmitchell: the idiot is you
[16:22] <wolfmitchell> Ok....
[16:22] <wolfmitchell> (I'll tell him to Ctrl+D"
[16:22] <wolfmitchell> )
[16:22] <OerHeks> wolfmitchell, please don't suggest that here, join offtopic for chit chat
[16:22] <wolfmitchell> Ok
[16:22] <mneptok> abu-bakr: rsync -avh -e ssh --delete 'user@host:/path/to/stuff/' /path/to/backup/
[16:22] <wolfmitchell> Sorry
[16:23] <scud> while using rar. how would I extract only a jpg file from the archive?  example, the archive would have   file1.jpg file2.txt file3.html.  how would I only extract the jpg file from the achive?
[16:23] <llutz_> scud: unrar e foo.rar file.jpg
[16:24] <abu-bakr> mneptok: ok sorry i should have mentioned.. although i am using rsync ( :s ) its actually running through a prog called 'lucky backup' (cheesy i know, but it worked ..lol)
[16:24] <mneptok> abu-bakr: never used it. and i have no intention of looking at it. ;)
[16:24] <scud> llutz_: correct. but what if I don't know the filename off the top of my head and want to script it?  can I do *jpg?
[16:25] <abu-bakr> mneptok: so there is places to enter ssh info but it would be better for me if the terminal command was broken down and explained a little?
[16:25] <abu-bakr> mneptok: i respect that :P
[16:25] <scud> llutz_: I was executing     find ./ -exec rar e {} \;     but that will extract all files
[16:25] <scud> I only want the jpg in the archive files
[16:25] <abu-bakr> meaning that if i just follow the terminal command you are providing, i wont know how to do it again later
[16:25] <abu-bakr> or will i?
[16:26] <dr_willis> check the docs for rar, it might support '*.jpg' scud . (note the quotes around the argument)
[16:26] <llutz_> scud: idk, unrar -l foo.rar first,  try it
[16:26] <scud> llutz_: you helped me
[16:26] <scud> rar e archive.rar *jpg  works
[16:26] <dr_willis> ive seen some archive tools that support getting passed wildcards. you just need to watchout that they dont match files in the current directory
[16:27] <dr_willis> if you had a file called foojpg in the current dir. that might not work scud
[16:27] <mneptok> abu-bakr: "man rsync"
[16:27] <dr_willis> '*.jpg' might work better.
[16:27] <scud> ok
[16:27] <abu-bakr> ?
[16:27] <mneptok> abu-bakr: also, there are TONS of tutorials for rsync on the web
[16:27] <abu-bakr> ok..
[16:28] <yumbo> abu-bakr, using ubuntu on both machines?
[16:28] <abu-bakr> yumbo: yup
[16:28] <mneptok> abu-bakr: learning a GUI program for rsync is, IMO, a waste of time. why not learn the actual underlying technology?
[16:28] <scud> man this rocks
[16:28] <scud> find ./ -exec rar e {} *.jpg \;   just saved my wrist 2 hours of work
[16:28] <sl33k_> i had some folder in windows c drive. how can i search for it in ubuntu?
[16:29] <yumbo> Ive used the GUI program for rsync: its pretty much the CLI but then with several boxes where you can turn on/off switches (like -g or -s)
[16:29] <llutz_> pretty much uselss in most cases
[16:29] <abu-bakr> erm.. ........... tough question.. let me think.. well my number one reason for not liking any command line (although I do enjoy it a little but thats besides the point) is that I want ubuntu etc to be Windows beaters and the less command line the better for that purpose..
[16:29] <yumbo> actually, no
[16:30] <sl33k_> nvm i found it
[16:30] <yumbo> the main reason I love linux is the fact that so many tools are cli-build
[16:30] <yumbo> this way I can write a whole rsync script and only have to type its name and it will backup *everything*
[16:30] <SmartTowel> is there a fix for mysql workbench on 11.11?
[16:30] <llutz_> abu-bakr: backups have to be done by the system, not the users. they shouldn't have to deal with it, because in most cases they won't do it at all
[16:31] <mneptok> abu-bakr: i classify "people doing remote backups" and "people that cannot use the command line" in very, VERY different boxes.
[16:31] <yumbo> mneptok, lol
[16:31] <mneptok> abu-bakr: IOW, if you cannot use a Unix shell, you will NOT be doing sysadmin tasks on my production machines.
[16:31] <abu-bakr> mneptok: and i am not a tech.. (used to be .. 10 years ago) but now I am just a business owner/peace activist and want tech that all people can use and would prefer actually techs to develop GUI stuff that is useful for everybody
[16:32] <yumbo> abu-bakr, one reason to do that: learn CLI, build the GUI's yourself ;)
[16:33] <abu-bakr> i'm just 'having' to be the tech at my company at the moment.. (until i can get someone else to do it :P )
[16:33] <compdoc> poor company
[16:33] <abu-bakr> lol
[16:33] <mneptok> abu-bakr: there are reasons that scalpels and forceps do not come with detailed instructions. you are expected to learn the fundamentals of surgery before handling them. average end users have no business running remote rsyncs.
[16:34] <abu-bakr> mneptok: true but i have a business necessity and cannot afford a surgeon :D
[16:34] <mneptok> abu-bakr: if a user needs a remote rsync, the sysadmin builds them a shell script.
[16:34] <abu-bakr> thats why i have you guys :D
[16:35] <abu-bakr> mneptok: oic.. so the terminal line earlier was to do that right/
[16:35] <yumbo> its not difficult to do a "man rsync" and then build a simple #! /bin/bash script
[16:35] <abu-bakr> man rsync?
[16:36] <yumbo> man is the manual page command, very helpful most times
[16:36] <llutz_> setup rsnapshot on a backup-server once, create a cron-job and nobody ever will have to fiddle with that again manually
[16:36] <crashanddie> Hi, trying to use the Boost.Test library on Ubuntu Natty on my application which uses libtool and more specifically ltdl. It would appear there is a conflict as the Boost.Test shared library is statically compiled using ltdl 1.5, which generates undefined references in my code. Any idea on who to contact regarding this?
[16:36] <compdoc> man is manual - the docs, in other words
[16:36] <abu-bakr> compdoc: thanks
[16:37] <Pici> crashanddie: I'd start by asking in #ubuntu-app-devel, but keep in mind that it has a much lower volume than this channel. I suppose the developer mailing list may also be a good place.
[16:37] <crashanddie> Pici, thanks
[16:38] <Arizona_Bay> hey whats the best music software that lets me drag music in the current play list/queue
[16:38] <Arizona_Bay> ?
[16:40] <Tech-1> vlc
[16:40] <yumbo> Arizona_Bay, Rhythmbox can do that
[16:40] <Arizona_Bay> Thanks! ill try it out :D
[16:40] <Arizona_Bay> Vlc isnt it for movies?
[16:40] <abu-bakr> hmmm... rsync just gave me a command to type and its started the backup but its not saved as a task in the software ..
[16:40] <Arizona_Bay> ive never used Vlc for music
[16:41] <yumbo> vlc is mainly for videos indeed, but it can play music too
[16:41] <Tech-1> works great
[16:41] <abu-bakr> i prefer banshee
[16:41] <Tech-1> amarok 1.4 aka pana works pretty good too
[16:42] <yumbo> dont you need like 300 kde-libs for that to work, Tech-1 ?
[16:42] <Tech-1> no, just ruby1.8
[16:42] <yumbo> oh, nice
[16:42] <Tech-1> workd real nice
[16:42] <carson_ward> i got away from banshee for a while...  just loaded the new...   really nice now
[16:43] <Tech-1> yumbo:  theres a .deb package for it
[16:43] <abu-bakr> so the ssh server.. does it just serve user created shares
[16:43] <abu-bakr> ?
[16:43] <compdoc> no
[16:44] <yumbo> the ssh server can give access to the whole system
[16:44] <yumbo> including the execution of commands
[16:44] <compdoc> its the same as opening a term window on the console
[16:45] <abu-bakr> erm.. cool.. ok.. how did rsync/luckybackup know what remote dir to backup without me telling it?
[16:45] <abu-bakr> its just going ahead with a backup of a remote machines 'home' dir
[16:46] <yumbo> did you just execute rsync in that home dir without specifying a directory?
[16:46] <yumbo> big chance its just gonna backup the current work-directory then
[16:46] <compdoc> you run luckybackup and hope you get lucky
[16:46] <yumbo> xD
[16:46] <abu-bakr> i know.. silly name.. but it had good reviews.. hey its worked so far :P
[16:47] <abu-bakr> must be the work of a chinese tech? or am i stereo typing there
[16:47] <yumbo> ...
[16:48] <bean> ....
[16:48] <compdoc> theres usually a conf file that specifies important directories to backup
[16:49] <diatomaceous> Hi everyone.  My computer isn't starting X successfully about 66% of the time.  I just have to keep rebooting until it works.  Here are the juicy bits of Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/fgzf36Kz.  Could someone please help?
[16:50] <dr_willis> diatomaceous:  whats your video card? if you just reboot.. it sometimes works.. and some times dont with no other changes?
[16:52] <geoffmcc> diatomaceous: have you recently updated your raedon driver or anything?
[16:53] <bluenemo> hi guys, i was forced to use ubuntu by default by the business i'm working for at the moment :) my question is can i purge sudo or will this destroy the system? i'm on 10.04.
[16:54] <jpds> bluenemo: That sounds like.... a bad idea.
[16:54] <Rezn0rNInchNails> I want to install xubuntu dapper alternate on older machine. I put iso with unetbootin on Verbatim 8 GB Usb drive but I get incorrect cd rom. Please help.
[16:54] <bluenemo> jpds, why?
[16:54] <jpds> bluenemo: Because bits of Ubuntu are built around sudo?
[16:54] <bluenemo> hm ok.. damit..
[16:55] <bean> bluenemo: don't purge sudo. What are you attempting to accomplish by purging it?
[16:55] <diatomaceous> geoffmcc: no, and dr_willis, correct - I change nothing, just reboot again.
[16:55] <diatomaceous> dr_willis: It's a firepro M8900.
[16:55] <jutnux> Howdy ho.
[16:55] <charles_> I'd be surprised if anyone in-channel can tell you firsthand what happens when sudo is purged :)
[16:55] <bluenemo> idk i dont trust it.. i want two passwords, one for my user and one for root..
[16:55] <Sharpshooter> how to reset the unity 3d totaly !!
[16:55] <bluenemo> do you know it charles_ ?
[16:56] <omido> i'm looking for an antivirus software so that i can scan the USB's that i work with windows users(please dont tell me that there is no need to install antiviruses in linux. i know that myself. )
[16:56] <yumbo> charles_, I can tell you what happens when you delete the libc.so libraries though
[16:56] <Tech-1> !clamav
[16:56] <bean> bluenemo: the user would still need to be allowed to sudo, which you can change with the sudoers config
[16:56] <charles_> bluenemo: no idea at all. I agree with jpds that it smells dangerous
[16:56] <llutz_> charles_: you'll have a system without root-access
[16:56] <geoffmcc> bluenemo: it goes against Ubuntu best practices, but you can set a seperate password for sudo
[16:56] <geoffmcc> i mean root
[16:57] <jutnux> omido: Avast works great.
[16:57] <Tech-1> omido:  clam
[16:57] <charles_> llutz_: that's bad enough, but that's still the best case scenario. /me wonders if there are worse outcomes though
[16:57] <bluenemo> ah ok yes a seperate password would be 'ok' as well, i'll google that
[16:57] <llutz_> charles_: sudo apt-get purge sudo -s                to check what it'll do
[16:57] <bean> bluenemo:  I would create your account, that has a password that only you know, that can sudo. And an account for others, that doesn't have sudo rights.
[16:58] <omido> jutnux: where can i find a free version on it ? i dont need the server edition
[16:58] <omido> Tech-1:  how is that ?
[16:58] <bluenemo> bean, so far its for my laptop (so only one human user)
[16:58] <bean> then still, a person would have to know your password to gain root.
[16:58] <Tech-1> antivirus in linux
[16:58] <bluenemo> but idk.. root and main user with one password, doesnt sound good to me :) i'll look into the seperate sudo pw
[16:59] <bluenemo> well yes thats my problem bean :) to less passwords.. m)
[16:59] <bean> bluenemo: sounds like you're being overly paranoid ;)
[16:59] <benignbala> Hi, I am looking for the Ubuntu's command not found handler for bash. I reached this URL: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommandNotFoundMagic which in turn points to 2 other urls for the code.
[16:59] <bean> bluenemo: I could reboot your machine and get a root shell if i really wanted to anyways, by using recovery mode.
[16:59] <benignbala> But neither of the  2  urls are valid. They both return 404 page not found.
[16:59] <benignbala> Can someone point me to an alternate source where I can get that code ?
[16:59] <diatomaceous> anyone have any more ideas how to fix my X troubles?
[17:00]  * bean avoids X if at all possible.
[17:00] <yumbo> haha: CommandNotFound page points to urls which give 404 Not Found
[17:00] <yumbo> ironic :)
[17:00] <bluenemo> bean, if you get around my encrypted hdd ;)
[17:00] <bluenemo> bean, i'm being paid for being paranoid :)
[17:00] <charles> bluenemo: I guess the biggest worry is that there would be side-effects that #ubuntu hadn't thought of. This may be a naive idea, but... maybe rename sudo to a scratch name, then wait and see if anything catches fire
[17:01] <benignbala> yumbo: :) true. May be we need a 404 not found handler as well, that will reroute to the right page ;)
[17:01] <bean> bluenemo: what are you setting up in the long run with this?
[17:01] <bluenemo> i think i'll play with it in a vm, if i'll find out sth interesting i'll post it here :)
[17:01] <charles> :)
[17:01] <bluenemo> bean, ??
[17:01] <bean> bluenemo: are you setting up a business level network of computers, or something? or is this just for personal use?
[17:02] <bluenemo> idk, i just came from debian and i'm a bit confused with this sudo stuff :) i've used and administrated ubuntu before but never had it on my holy precious laptop :)
[17:02] <stjohnmedrano> good day, how can we restart lightdm from terminal? before we use to command sudo /etc/init.d gdm restart ? thanks
[17:02] <llutz_> stjohnmedrano: sudo service lightdm restart
[17:02] <bluenemo> bean, no i work as a linux administrator for around 15 programmers
[17:02] <stjohnmedrano> thansk llutz
[17:02] <tsimpson> benignbala: see https://code.launchpad.net/command-not-found
[17:02] <bean> bluenemo: me too, and I run ubuntu on the majority of my servers :P
[17:02] <bluenemo> they program, i take care of everything else bean
[17:02] <stjohnmedrano> thansk llutz_ ill give it a try
[17:02] <bluenemo> lol ubuntu on servers :P
[17:03] <bean> ubuntu server man
[17:03] <bean> it works well.
[17:03] <bluenemo> hm yeah idk.. on desktops maybe.. but i'm not ready to use it on servers.. its just to dau for me :P
[17:03] <compdoc> all my servers run ubuntu, and windows server in VMs on ubuntu
[17:03] <benignbala> tsimpson: Thanks a lot for finding that for me.
[17:03] <diatomaceous> ubuntu server is a great OS
[17:04] <paulsomebody> Hello, everyone. I have a question — is it possible to change the network name of the Ubuntu machine after installation?
[17:04] <bluenemo> i prefer plain debian, then configuring it by hand.. i really like to start from scratch with servers
[17:04] <tsimpson> benignbala: for most packages, you can figure out where they were downloaded from by looking at /usr/share/doc/<package>/copyright (just fyi)
[17:04] <bluenemo> paulsomebody, i think thats in /etc/hostname
[17:04] <diatomaceous> ubuntu server can be done that way :)
[17:04] <omido> diatomaceous:  is it better that i use ubuntu server?
[17:04] <paulsomebody> The one that was suggested by the Live CD installer happens not to be a correct NetBios name.
[17:04] <diatomaceous> but you get the benefits of more regular security updates and better package support
[17:04] <benignbala> tsimpson: Thanks again. That's really useful.
[17:04] <diatomaceous> I sure think so.
[17:04] <diatomaceous> we just switched from debian to ubuntu
[17:04] <diatomaceous> great move
[17:04] <geoffmcc> diatomaceous: i found a forum article that has same error as you, and they suggest that it is KMS doing it, i have no experience with your card but check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1492803
[17:05] <paulsomebody> bluenemo: So, I guest waltz into this config file with gedit, change it, reboot and it is done?
[17:05] <geoffmcc> diatomaceous: post #7
[17:05] <diatomaceous> geoffmcc: Thank you, what's KMS?
[17:05] <llutz_> diatomaceous: "more regular security updates" than with debian?
[17:05] <diatomaceous> llutz_: yup
[17:05] <bean> for sure.
[17:06] <diatomaceous> geoffmcc: what's xdm ?
[17:06] <paulsomebody> bluenemo: By the way, do you think there are any cuter names for system than 'mybox'?
[17:07] <bluenemo> paulsomebody, i use greek gods most of the time
[17:07] <bluenemo> paulsomebody, i think so, just sudo nano /etc/hostname
[17:07] <diatomaceous> paulsomebody: I use mcdonald's menu items
[17:07] <bluenemo> rofl M)
[17:07] <yumbo> paulsomebody, I just use my name/nick-Desktop for a desktop and -Laptop for laptop
[17:07] <diatomaceous> paulsomebody: It's hilarious when bigmac crashes
[17:07] <paulsomebody> bluenemo: Good move, Greeks had a lot of gods to go around. :)
[17:07] <bean> bluenemo, paulsomebody: and then hostname -f /etc/hostname and reboot.
[17:07] <nineteen67comet> Hello. I'm trying to add a music directory to fstab so the notebook I'm building a guy will see his windows music as if it's his /home/user/Music directory .. but there are spaces in the file names; can I use same syntax with fastab as cli? /media/Windows\ HD/Documents\ and\ settings/ etc etc?
[17:08] <yumbo> nineteen67comet, no you can't
[17:08] <yumbo> if the filename contains spaces you have to put quotes around the whole thing: ntfs "/some/path/with spaces"
[17:08] <paulsomebody> bluenemo: diatomaceous: yumbo: bean: Thank you all for the help, I will try this now.
[17:09] <jutnux> Yes you can...
[17:09] <nineteen67comet> yumbo: that's awesome easy .. thank you .. I'll get back to work on that .. :) .. thank you ..
[17:10] <llutz_> nineteen67comet: or mask spaces with "\040"
[17:10] <cyborg> i am using ubuntu 10.04 with 2.6.39.4 kernel and i ca't connect with bluetooth i am having connection failed error,please help me
[17:10] <geoffmcc> diatomaceous: sorry, i was still looking into.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver  there is a section in there that discusses KDM... also, have you checked if there was an update for your display adapter?
[17:11] <diatomaceous> geoffmcc: what do you mean update? I run apt-get update / upgrade regularly
[17:11] <geoffmcc> diatomaceous: i meant KMS too
[17:11]  * theadmin pokes jutnux
[17:11] <geoffmcc> diatomaceous: did you setup display with a ppa?
[17:11] <nineteen67comet> llutz thank you for that one too .. if I can't get the " to work I'll pull out the mask ..
[17:12] <diatomaceous> geoffmcc: It's just the default driver that comes with the system.  Open-source I think
[17:13] <geoffmcc> diatomaceous: ok, and you said it was a firepro M8900
[17:13] <MonkeyDust> hi theadmin
[17:13] <diatomaceous> geoffmcc:  correct
[17:13] <theadmin> MonkeyDust: Hi I suppose.
[17:13] <diatomaceous> geoffmcc: Same silicon as the Radeon Mobility 6970
[17:14] <thegladiator> any software for night display in laptops ?
[17:15] <dr_willis> night display?
[17:15] <theadmin> thegladiator: define:"night display"
[17:15] <bean> thegladiator: Redshift
[17:15] <bean> is like F.lux for windows.
[17:15] <thegladiator> yes as in like night time switches to an easier mode
[17:15] <dr_willis> 'easier' meaning?
[17:15] <thegladiator> Easier / lighter for the eyes
[17:16] <bean> thegladiator: Redshift.
[17:16] <thegladiator> trying that bean
[17:16] <xangua> bean: there is also f.lux for linux
[17:17] <bean> xangua: hmm, I wasn't aware, I don;t think there used to be.
[17:17] <xangua> there was an indicator also
[17:17] <thegladiator> often ind myself doing laptop in night , need a software that takes care of lgihting of lcd
[17:17] <bean> thegladiator: f.lux works as well.
[17:17] <bean> thegladiator: http://stereopsis.com/flux/linux.html
[17:18] <thegladiator> ok will that
[17:19] <tjayh913> one of these days I need to fix my version 14 kernel, have to boot the version 12 one to get it to boot
[17:20] <paulsomebody> Thank you everyone, that worked.
[17:20] <bean> np paulsomebody
[17:20] <compdoc> someday, you should upgrade
[17:20] <makara> wifi keeps disconnecting. its fine for a while and then just stops. I disable and enable and its back chopchop. Why? artheros 9285
[17:20] <conntrack> :D
[17:20] <geoffmcc> diatomaceous: yea im not sure what driver you need with your card as i use nvidia.
[17:21] <geoffmcc> diatomaceous: trying to find ppa for you but not sure
[17:22] <geoffmcc> diatomaceous: think this might be it xserver-xorg-video-ati
[17:22] <paulsomebody> However, samba still says some silly things about 'hostname unknown', I cannot figure out if it installed or not. Can anayone take a look at the log? http://paste.ubuntu.com/776558/
[17:23] <thegladiator> very helpful beam thanks
[17:23] <diatomaceous> geoffmcc: That's the one I have, yup.   xserver-xorg-video-ati:
[17:23] <diatomaceous>   Installed: 1:6.14.99~git20110811.g93fc084-0ubuntu1
[17:23] <diatomaceous>   Candidate: 1:6.14.99~git20110811.g93fc084-0ubuntu1
[17:23] <thegladiator> bean I men ^
[17:23] <thegladiator> mean
[17:23] <diatomaceous> geoffmcc: I'm just so confused why it works fine sometimes but doesn't others.
[17:23] <diatomaceous> geoffmcc: I'm mostly curious what "no screens found" means
[17:24] <makara> i want to configure Unity so I Alt+F2 and type about:config but then I cant click the unity config icon?
[17:24] <geoffmcc> diatomaceous: i think thats where the KMS comes in. This mode allows to automatically detect all necessary settings for your hardware, as well as to provide for better viewing experience.
[17:25] <compdoc> paulsomebody, that doesnt seem to have gone well. you may need to address the hostname problem first
[17:25] <diatomaceous> geoffmcc: would it be safe to turn it off?  if so, how?
[17:25] <paulsomebody> compdoc: I think so. However, I already changed the hostname to 'mybox' sounds as NetBios compatible as it can get to me.
[17:26] <compdoc> paulsomebody, I was thinking a dns issue
[17:26] <DrMcLaser> makara: What unity config icon are you talking about? Some inside ccsm ?
[17:27] <paulsomebody> compdoc: DNS? Hmm. My desktop is getting a DNS automatically from the router, there should be no DNS settings locally. Or may Samba think otherwise?
[17:27] <geoffmcc> diatomaceous: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1492803 -- post #7
[17:27] <makara> iḿ trying to turn off the unity panel: http://askubuntu.com/questions/50522/replacing-unity-bar-with-docky
[17:28] <thegladiator> redshift color is good ?
[17:28] <thegladiator> for eyes bean
[17:28] <andyn> i'm looking for a way to replace unity dock with that of wmaker :)
[17:29] <compdoc> paulsomebody, open a term window and try to ping mybox
[17:29] <paulsomebody> compdoc: It does not ping, says 'ping: unknown host mybox'.
[17:30] <jutnux> paulsomebody: He meant the IP of the Virtualbox I guess.
[17:30] <compdoc> yeah, so renaming it has caused a problem
[17:30] <paulsomebody> jutnux: I do not use VirtualBox or any other emulators, if I understand you correctly.
[17:31] <paulsomebody> compdoc: So, it is not as simple as renaming things in /etc/hostname and then using 'hostname --file 'etc/hostname', and rebooting?
[17:31] <xiax> c
[17:31] <geoffmcc> diatomaceous: also.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/KernelModeSetting  // see turning off section. forum command a little different, i would prob use the wiki suggestion
[17:31] <compdoc> its not always that simple to get it right, true
[17:32] <paulsomebody> compdoc: Ouch.
[17:32] <llutz_> paulsomebody: change /etc/hosts too
[17:32] <DrMcLaser> makara: Well, as far as I can tell, you have to change "Reveal Mode" to none, and then make it autohide
[17:32] <paulsomebody> llutz_: I should replace all entries of old name with the new name, right?
[17:32] <llutz_> paulsomebody: yes
[17:33] <paulsomebody> llutz_: compdoc: Thank you both, pinging now works all right.
[17:34] <thegladiator> fluxgui is not opening saying its alredy running in bground
[17:34] <thegladiator> I am using gnome3
[17:34] <llutz_> paulsomebody: grep -r oldhostname /etc/      might show some other places containing the old name
[17:34] <thegladiator> Does it not get registered to gnome 3?
[17:34] <DrMcLaser> Does anybody know how to install regnum online on your home partition? I choose username/home/regnumOnline in the install wizard, but it still takes free space in Root partition..
[17:36] <MonkeyDust> FYI: regnum is a game
[17:36] <paulsomebody> llutz_: It is nowhere to be found, save for backups of the files where I edited it.
[17:37] <kleanchap> I have ubuntu based vmware appliance which looks like it is a stripped down version of ubuntu 10.10.  I added a new VM disk.  How do I install the new disk in ubuntu vm and fstab?
[17:37] <makara> DrMcLaser: i cant open the configuration window. I type altf2 and type about:config, click the icon but nothing happens. Any other way to access this?
[17:38] <DrMcLaser> makara: oh, Have you install compiz config settings manager? You need that first
[17:38] <makara> thanks
[17:39] <Mikeyn> hello channel, i need ome help
[17:39] <dr_willis> kleanchap:  just edit /etc/fstab and add a proper entry for it
[17:39] <dr_willis> !fstab | kleanchap
[17:39] <cyborg> exit
[17:40] <DrMcLaser> MonkeyDust: Regnum is a game yes, But shouldn't it be possible to install it to my home partition ?
[17:40] <DrMcLaser> makara: you can install it by doing a 'sudo apt-get install compiz-config-settings-manager' without the quots
[17:40] <dr_willis> DrMcLaser:  if you installed it to /home/yoourusername  and home is on its own parittion. it shouldent be taking space on the / partition
[17:42] <Mikeyn> i recently installed some updates on ubuntu 10.04 and now when i boot up my computer i get "No init found. Try passing init= bootarg" i found some instructions online to fix the issue but my problem is i have no live cd available to me, and won't for the next couple of days as the only computer with a cd drive is the one having this issue. Is there any other way to fix this issue? I'm using a white macbook
[17:42] <travisHAZE> :o you can assign ~/ to its own partition?
[17:42] <DrMcLaser> dr_willis: no i didn't think so either.. But it actually does, because it can't finish installing because of lack of space on root.. Although it does have 2 Gigs..
[17:42] <paulsomebody> That did not go too well this time either, Samba still argues about old config files, like that. http://paste.ubuntu.com/776580/ But I removed both of them, before proceeding.
[17:42] <DrMcLaser> travisHAZE,: Yep :)
[17:43] <travisHAZE> Can it be readable by a Windows install?
[17:43] <kleanchap> dr_willis, Thnx
[17:44] <wcapio> hi folks
[17:44] <paulsomebody> Cute, now Samba returns this error even when I try to purge it!
[17:44] <wcapio> Q does anyone know how I can set a series of windows so that I can open them with one click (basically for programming development)
[17:45] <Mikeyn> I guess nobody could help me :(
[17:45] <makara> DrMcLaster what happens if I just disable the unity plugin?
[17:45] <makara> will it be like the desktop in 10.04?
[17:46] <makara> wcapio: hibernate
[17:46] <makara> wcapio: or startup applications
[17:46] <wcapio> makara, too inelegant
[17:47] <wcapio> makara, set them as start-up apps will not remember size and position, will it?
[17:47] <XamDM> Mikeyn, isn't ther an older kernel installed so that you can usethat one (old linux entry in grub) ???
[17:48] <Mikeyn> xam im not sure
[17:48] <Mikeyn> how would I go about checking that on a white macbook?
[17:48] <DrMcLaser> makara: No, it will not be like 10.04, unfortunately you might say.. But it is still possible to get the same kinda look..http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/how-to-make-ubuntu-11-10-look-and-feel-like-gnome-2/
[17:49] <XamDM> Mikeyn, i dont have a mac. but grub should show you a list of available systems (kernels etc)
[17:49] <Mikeyn> I know the updates recently updated the kernel, which could have caused this, does it usually back up the older kernel that worked?? and if so how do I access it
[17:49] <makara> wcapio: no. but if you use keyboard shortcuts with the grid plugin for instance, moving them into place is much easier
[17:49] <yeehaw> makara: Or look into Linux Mint
[17:49] <DrMcLaser> makara: I have to leave now, hope to have helped you a bit :D
[17:49] <makara> a lot, thanks
[17:49] <Mikeyn> when I hold down option, it brings me to a window that shows a partition named "windows" and ive never had windows on there
[17:49] <wcapio> makara, as I was saying, inelegant...
[17:49] <Mikeyn> and when i select it it boots normally and i get the same error
[17:50] <XamDM> Mikeyn, is OSX installed and bootable ???
[17:50] <Mikeyn> I replaced os x with ubuntu because i didn't plan on using it ever again
[17:50] <wolfmitchell> Can I change the size if Ubuntu's partition from within ubuntu?
[17:50] <wcapio> makara, I take the last comment back, the grid plugin looks nice!
[17:51] <wcapio> makara, might do...
[17:51] <compdoc> Id love to own OSX is it ran on any Intel-based hardware
[17:51] <wolfmitchell> Note that I am running alongside Windows.
[17:51] <gang> gang
[17:51] <gang> hi all
[17:51] <XamDM> Mikeyn, so if there is no option to lauch the older kernel i don't have any idea to boot up the system without livecd
[17:51] <Mikeyn> I'm not a big fan of OS X, but it does run on intel based systems now
[17:52] <XamDM> Mikeyn, maybe you can find a Linux Livecd in a shop ???
[17:52] <Mikeyn> XamDM, what would the grub menu look like?
[17:52] <XamDM> Mikeyn, im on 11.10 and it shows an entry wwith old linux
[17:53] <paulsomebody> comdox: jutnux: llutz_: It appears the issue I am having with Samba is the know bug. Thank you for all the help, I will talk to the developers now.
[17:53] <OerHeks> wolfmitchell, no, you can't resize an active partition, you need to do this from a live cd
[17:53] <XamDM> Mikeyn, but on Macbook its the efi-version of grub, i don't know anything about it ...
[17:53] <wolfmitchell> Damn
[17:53] <iToast> hey
[17:53] <iToast> Ubuntu server 10.4 has Python natively right
[17:54] <iToast> like 2.6 / 7?
[17:54] <jpds> iToast: Yes.
[17:54] <jpds> iToast: All versions of Ubuntu do.
[17:54] <iToast> What version of python
[17:54] <iToast> I should hopefully have twisted installed too
[17:54] <travisHAZE> The kind that eats mice kind
[17:54] <jpds> iToast: packages.ubuntu.com is your friend.
[17:55] <iToast> lol
[17:55] <iToast> ok
[17:55] <iToast> Whats ubuntu's off topic channel>?
[17:55] <iToast> I had it yesterday but i can't find it...
[17:55] <webnet> #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:56] <webnet> iirc
[17:56] <iToast> Ty
[17:56] <Alison_Chaiken> In the absence of having an existing Ubuntu system that I can use to burn a new USB Ubuntu install stick, can I use Unetbootin?    I'm hitting this error :
[17:56] <Alison_Chaiken> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/iso-scan/+bug/480368
[17:56] <Alison_Chaiken> Essentially iso-scan finds the iso for oneiric, which is for an i386 iso that matches my architecture, but then it fails.
[17:57] <Mikeyn> how do you guys normally boot into grub, holding down the esc key?
[17:57] <Alison_Chaiken> I'm using debian-installer with priority=medium and trying to install on a logical partition of an embedded system.
[17:57] <bean> Mikeyn: Shift.
[17:57] <XamDM> Mikeyn, on non efi-systems it is shown on boot
[17:58] <symaxian> So I've installed all the sqlite packages in ubuntu, still not found in php
[17:58] <Boreeas> What are the color control codes in a console?
[17:58] <SuperNoeMan> hey, I'm on ubuntu 11.10
[17:59] <symaxian> How do you install sqlite in ubuntu 11.10?
[17:59] <theadmin> symaxian: apt-get install sqlite3 ?
[17:59] <gigo_> please help me with this: http://pastebin.com/9AfFy8M1
[17:59] <bean> symaxian: apt-get install php5-sqlite3
[17:59] <SuperNoeMan> and I'm doing sudo echo blahblah > /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern
[17:59] <theadmin> bean: What's that got to do with php?
[17:59] <SuperNoeMan> but the sudo part isn't bringing up a prompt so I can raise my priviledges
[17:59] <symaxian> Both installed, neither appear in php
[17:59] <bean> theadmin: he said he wanted it in php earlier
[17:59] <gigo_> this is my wireless card: 0c:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01)
[17:59] <theadmin> SuperNoeMan: True, "echo" is not a command, it's a shell built-in
[17:59] <SuperNoeMan> how come I can't edit the core_pattern?
[17:59] <bean> symaxian: then do you have /etc/php5/conf.d/sqlite3.ini
[18:00] <SuperNoeMan> theadmin: oh... so should I use something like sudo gedit?
[18:00] <theadmin> SuperNoeMan: echo "blahblah" | sudo tee /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern
[18:00] <guest__> I am curious if anybody know how to give 2 users the same roaming profile. Using samba?
[18:00] <theadmin> SuperNoeMan: -a with tee to append
[18:00] <symaxian> yes bean its there
[18:00] <guest__> For instance logon path = \\%N\profiles\%u
[18:00] <guest__>        logon drive = H:
[18:00] <guest__>        logon home = \\%N\%u
[18:00] <bean> symaxian: then restart apache?
[18:00] <bean> guest__: please don't paste here.
[18:01] <guest__> How can I change sams profile to so that both sam and tom can use the same roaming profile?
[18:01] <loconut> hello, I recently did an update on 10.04 LTS that upgraded my kernel, which is fine, except that initrd doesn't seem to include md-raid and it drops down to initramfs. How do I fix the initrd for the newer kernel?
[18:01] <symaxian> is the object-oriented version separate?
[18:02] <bean> symaxian: restart apache?
[18:02] <symaxian> Did
[18:03] <symaxian> The sqlite3.extension_dir directive has no value according to phpinfo()
[18:04] <DarkStar1> hi. Is it still better to use the PPA from https://launchpad.net/~nvidia-vdpau/+archive/ppa to update the nvidia cards?
[18:06] <asifnazir> hi...I really need help to edit my source list . as I have posted here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1898021
[18:07] <asifnazir> help me edit source list http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1898021
[18:07] <tash> I setup samba to share some read only files on a new ubuntu server.  Client says that on the old system, when someone opened one of the read only files, it warned them that it is read only, but that isn't happening now.  Is that something that the client (Windows computer) controls or is there something I can do on the server that will force that prompt?
[18:07] <symaxian> K, got it
[18:07] <makara> any news on AR9285 wireless always disconnecting?
[18:07] <symaxian> Thanks guys
[18:08] <tash> hmm, to add to my question:  The files aren't actually r--r--r--, they are r-xr-xr-x ...
[18:08] <OerHeks> asifnazir, you post 3 minutes ago, it is allright now, om the forum
[18:08] <Sirijus> hello
[18:09] <Sirijus> how can i add skype to run on startup?
[18:09] <asifnazir> OerHeks,  but the the guy scared me and not replying ..
[18:09] <makara> can I replace the workspace switcher on docky with an expo icon?
[18:10] <dr_willis> !autostart
[18:10] <dr_willis> makara:  or copy a .desktop file for it to ~/.config/autostart/
[18:12] <ok_wait> how do i make grub display at 320x240?
[18:12] <makara> dr_willis: docky starts fine. ?
[18:13] <Jordan_U> ok_wait: That is an incredibly small resolution. Are you sure that VBE even supports such a low resolution mode on your hardware? Why do you want this?
[18:13] <brent__> a111,Hi
[18:13] <abu-bakr> quick one guys .. where can i find my ssh key?
[18:13] <ssta> abu-bakr: probably ~/.ssh
[18:13] <warfaren> nah it's in /etc/ssh i think
[18:13] <warfaren> ~/.ssh only has known_hosts
[18:13] <ssta> that's the server key
[18:14] <abu-bakr> ok lemme see
[18:14] <ok_wait> Jordan_U, i'm pretty sure that's the resolution my bios is displayed at and i'd like grub to be the same (look the same)
[18:14] <warfaren> alright well
[18:14] <ssta> if you generate a personal key it goes into ~/.ssh (by default)
[18:14] <genii-around> ok_wait: In /etc/default/grub   a line reads like: GRUB_GFXMODE=1280x720      or so. Change the dimensions there, update grub
[18:14] <DarkStar1> Anyone here know how to upgrade the nvdia drivers for 11.10
[18:14] <ssta> abu-bakr: what do you need it for exactly?
[18:14] <abu-bakr> rsync
[18:14] <ssta> abu-bakr: did you generate one with ssh-keygen?
[18:14] <abu-bakr> to access remote machine to back its directories up
[18:15] <abu-bakr> erm.. no
[18:15] <Jordan_U> ok_wait: It's bad etiquette to post in multiple channels at the same time with the same question. Next time please wait for an answer in one before asking in another.
[18:15] <ssta> abu-bakr: well, that's probably the first step then
[18:15] <mzaza> I am running mysql on ubuntu, I have both install mysql-client & mysql-server. When I try to view a PHP site using mySQL database I get an error from the config.php "The site database appears to be offline". Any ideas?
[18:15] <abu-bakr> ssta, cool
[18:16] <abu-bakr> i have a guide on this but i dont get how the public key gets transferred to the server?
[18:16] <ssta> abu-bakr: might like to read: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[18:16] <ssta> abu-bakr: you have to put it there (or give it to whoever runs the server to put there for you)
[18:16] <abu-bakr> oic
[18:17] <abu-bakr> ssta thanks ...
[18:17] <ssta> abu-bakr: the key is in two halves...a public half and a private half.  You keep the private half, and put the public half on the server
[18:18] <ssta> read that page I posted a link to, it explains it all fairly well
[18:18] <abu-bakr> cool.. terminal just gave me the response that there is already a file in there?!
[18:19] <abu-bakr> lemme see
[18:19] <abu-bakr> ah, just known hosts
[18:20] <travisHAZE> nohop is the command that will let you close a term window and still run the process right?
[18:20] <travisHAZE> ie nohop gnome-panel
[18:20] <gang_> connect irc://irc.icq.com
[18:20] <ok_wait> Jordan_U, i'm sorry for my poor etiquette, it won't happen again
[18:20] <ssta> travisHAZE: nohup
[18:20] <gang_> oops sorry
[18:20] <ssta> nohup foo &
[18:20] <travisHAZE> domo ssta
[18:21] <warfaren> you can run stuff in screen too, it's really good
[18:21] <mzaza> How can I configure mysql host, to my local machine????
[18:21] <ssta> short for "no hangup" (in the unix way of making short fors :)
[18:21] <ssta> byobu is one of the better inventions of canonical
[18:22] <kzman> hi, how can I configure the guest acount in lightdm?
[18:22] <ssta> kzman: "configure"?
[18:22] <mzaza> ssta: Can you help with mysql configuration?
[18:22] <ssta> mzaza: depends what it is
[18:22] <kzman> ssta, edit its default desktop setting
[18:23] <mzaza> ssta: When I try to open a PHP project using mySQL I get datababase is offline error. I want to make sure mySQL is configure correctly.
[18:23] <ssta> kzman: Hmm, I have no idea I'm afraid.  The ONLY thing I do with the guest account is disable it
[18:24] <admine> i need help with rtmpdump, anyone?
[18:24] <benignbala> mzaza: You are able to access mysql from your command line ?
[18:24] <mzaza> ssta: I tried using "sudo mysql-admin -h host_ip" and use the graphical configuration however, when I write in the host localhost and choose any port I get couldn't read host error.
[18:24] <mzaza> benignbala: Yes.
[18:25] <mzaza> benignbala: But I uploaded the database using phpmyadmin. *Note I have set custom path for apache2 to ~/Playground/www/
[18:25] <conntrack> Ah good
[18:25] <ssta> mzaza: hmm, by default mysql only listens on localhost IIRC.  Maybe php needs it to listen to all addresses.  If you edit /etc/mysql/my.conf and look at the bind-address setting
[18:25] <ssta> mzaza: port is usually (by default anyway) 3306
[18:26] <mzaza> ssta: There is no my.conf. Only conf.d/ and debian-start
[18:26] <tekoholic> Does anybody know of a working AutoAP script, such as that which is available for DD-WRT, that will operate the same way on an Ubuntu Box?
[18:27] <ssta> mzaza: interesting. You sure you installed mysql-server?  And it installed correctly?
[18:27] <MaMaGoody> hi, is unity-2d-launcher allow dock app?
[18:27] <mzaza> ssta: All of what I used was sudo apt-get install mysql-server and sudo apt-get install mysql-client :)
[18:28] <benignbala> mzaza: May be sudo dpkg-reconfigure   mysql-server-5.1
[18:28] <ssta> mzaza: that should have worked, yes.  I have no idea why you don't have a my.cnf I'm afraid
[18:28] <MaMaGoody> is there a way to map an xwindow into a unity-2d-launcher icon?
[18:29] <blackbox> maybe try sudo dpkg-reconfigure your apache/php/mysql packages and try from scratch. Whats your version for php they switch aalot of how the php.ini files work with mysql ,...ectc in new versions
[18:29] <admine> any rtmpdump expert?
[18:29] <blackbox> backup first
[18:30] <mzaza> benignbala: ssta Done now I have my.cnf
[18:31] <benignbala> mzaza: check for bind-address. Normally it is 127.0.0.1
[18:31] <blackbox> you could use a bash script file for x11 / unity-2d-launcher icon
[18:31] <mzaza> benignbala: 192.168.1.20 Should I change it?
[18:32] <ssta> mzaza: is it actually listening?  "netstat -an|grep 3306"
[18:33] <mzaza> ssta: tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:3306          0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
[18:33] <benignbala> mzaza: You can change it to the address at which it should listen. I guess you can give a comma separated value. Not quite sure though.
[18:33] <ssta> mzaza: okay, so it's listening. try:  mysql -u root -p -h 127.0.0.1
[18:34] <mzaza> ssta: I'm in.
[18:35] <ssta> mzaza: okay.  Try with php then
[18:35] <blackbox> to print to a printer do you need cups service running. I have my printer directly connected to my computer via either usb,or lpt . I just hat having a tcpip service running for nothing
[18:35] <abu-bakrLaptop> hi folks, ssta, how do i transfer the public key to the server?
[18:35] <benignbala> mzaza: Ok, I rectify myself. bind address can take only one value. I previously said comma separate value. That's not correct.
[18:36] <ssta> abu-bakrLaptop: copy id_rsa.pub to the server in .ssh/authorized_keys
[18:36] <mzaza> ssta: Still not working. I though there might be an error with the configuration file, but it did work with a windows machine running xamp!
[18:36] <ssta> abu-bakrLaptop: I don't know what access you currently have to the server
[18:36] <mzaza> benignbala: I changed the bind-address to 127.0.0.1
[18:36] <ssta> mzaza: is php trying to connect to localhost?  or to an IP?
[18:36] <blackbox> 11952 ?        00:00:05 cupsd
[18:36] <blackbox>  is this needed to print directly in theory you shouldn need to have a service running to print with a computer directly connected
[18:37] <ssta> mzaza: you can set bind-address to 0.0.0.0 to listen to any address, but that may be a security hole if you have a machine on the internet directly
[18:37] <ssta> blackbox: yes
[18:37] <blackbox> can I sudo /etc/init.d/cups stop and still print?
[18:37] <ssta> blackbox: probably not
[18:38] <abu-bakrLaptop> ssta, i have local access.. so i create the folder /authorized_keys authorised with a 'z' yeah.. :P
[18:38] <ssta> mzaza: for soem reaason (I have NO idea why), mysql can only bind to one address (or all addresses), not 2 specific addresses.  It's a pain, but that's how it is
[18:38] <mzaza> ssta: In the config file $dbhost="localhost"
[18:38] <ssta> abu-bakrLaptop: no, authorized_keys is a file, not a directory
[18:38] <pingu_> how do i start transmission-gtk through cron? i am this 13 10  20 12 *  transmission-gtk	but it won't work
[18:39] <mzaza> ssta: It's just I have to deliver this project early tomm. and discuss it from my laptop and I can't get it work ! It driving me crazy.
[18:39] <abu-bakrLaptop> ssta so can i just rename the .pub file?
[18:39] <ssta> abu-bakrLaptop: it's in ~/.ssh for the target user.  Did you read that page I posted?  it exaplins all this pretty well
[18:39] <benignbala> mzaza: What user does the php code connect to the be as ?
[18:39] <ssta> abu-bakrLaptop: yes, that's fine
[18:39] <abu-bakrLaptop> there isnt already a file there with the name you specified
[18:40] <benignbala> mzaza: You will have a mysql_connect(), please see what args you pass to that
[18:40] <mzaza> benignbala: root
[18:40] <blackbox> ya , I think when I stop cups it stops the print spooler ?
[18:40] <ssta> abu-bakrLaptop: copy it rather than rename ideally
[18:40] <ssta> blackbox: yes
[18:40] <mzaza> benignbala: Can I upload the php code somewhere and send you a link?
[18:40] <blackbox> I just want to not have cups running on a port is that possible?
[18:40] <ssta> blackbox: if you need to print, leave cups running
[18:40] <abu-bakrLaptop> yes i been following the page but didnt come across it really ssta and the authorized... file is not on the server
[18:41] <blackbox> Like in windows when you plug in a usb printer know tcpip port is being used to print to it for that computer
[18:41] <benignbala> mzaza: sure. But make sure you are not violating anything by sharing the code.
[18:41] <aoeuhtns> since upgrading to 10.04 from 9.10, my SSH key is no longer cached - I have to enter the passphrase every time
[18:41] <ssta> blackbox: this isn't Windows
[18:41] <Mathuin_> My sweetie would like a button in her Unity sidebar to play Minecraft.  I have no idea how to do that in oneiric.  Can someone please point me at useful documentation?
[18:41] <aoeuhtns> gnome-keyring-daemon is running, but its PID doesn't match the environment variable GNOME_KEYRING_PID
[18:41] <ssta> blackbox: and there's a service in Windows, it's just not listening on a port by default
[18:41] <mzaza> benignbala: Now, it's my code. If that's what you mean
[18:41] <benignbala> mzaza: :) ok
[18:41] <blackbox> so is their no way other then block the port with a firewall setting?
[18:42] <mzaza> benignbala: https://plus.google.com/u/0/114763003787914218110/posts/EqWoazDQpYv
[18:42] <ssta> blackbox: it doesn't have to listen on a tcp port on linux either, it can listen on a socket
[18:42] <wolfmitchell> Syntax for mysql_connect is $mysql=mysql_connect("server","user","pass");
[18:42] <ssta> not sure what it does by default
[18:42] <ssta> blackbox: how do you know it's listening on a prt?
[18:43] <benignbala> mzaza: I am replying to it as a comment there.
[18:43] <ssta> blackbox: by default it only listens on localhost (looking at the config file)
[18:43] <blackbox> "it doesn't have to listen on a tcp port on linux either, it can listen on a socket" socket ? is n't that just open some tcp/ip portt indirectly ?
[18:43] <mzaza> benignbala: Ok :)
[18:43] <trirnoth> Hello all. Running 10.04 LTS 2.6.32-37-server. Need to run s3fs for backups. Install stops at Requested 'fuse >= 2.8.4' but version of fuse is 2.8.1. Methods to upgrade fuse? Google has not been good to me.
[18:44] <ssta> blackbox: no.  A socket can be a file rather than a tcp port
[18:44] <ssta> blackbox: what's the output of "netstat -an|grep 631"?
[18:44] <blackbox> you mean a device file?
[18:45] <ssta> blackbox: sort of like a device file, but not, it's a socket file
[18:45] <ssta> blackbox: I get: tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:631           0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
[18:45] <ssta> meaning it's only listening on loopback, not open top the network
[18:46] <blackbox> have to read up on those  socket files
[18:46] <Mathuin_> Also, if anyone can recommend good drawing software that works with a generic tablet, that'd be great.
[18:46] <blackbox> I have unix  2      [ ACC ]     STREAM     LISTENING     63817259 /var/run/cups/cups.sock
[18:46] <ssta> blackbox: basically, in unix (almost) *everything* is thought of as a file.
[18:46] <ssta> blackbox: yeah, that's the file socket
[18:47] <blackbox> I thought their where only to types that /dev had character and block device files
[18:48] <ssta> blackbox: that's in /dev/  A socket is another sort of "special" file.  FIFO is another.
[18:48] <blackbox> Like something you make with mkfifo
[18:48] <blackbox> those are pipes
[18:48] <ssta> blackbox: the main advantage to using a file instead of a tcp port is that then you get the Unix filesystem type permission control...so youi can restrict who can use the socket that way
[18:48] <ssta> blackbox: yes, pipes is another name
[18:51] <ssta> blackbox: basically there are: files (plain ordinary files), directories (what it says on the tin), links (symbolic or hard), character devices (like /dev/ttyS0), block devices (like disk drives), named pipes, and sockets
[18:51] <ssta> I think I got them all
[18:51] <ssta> maybe I missed something, but that's most of them anyway
[18:51] <blackbox> I see so then why can I go to the web based cups interface with out netstat -a | grep cups or seeing anything running on 631?
[18:51] <ssta> to Unix, they're *all* treated as files.  In Unix pretty much everything is a file, which greatly simplifies how you write code to talk to it
[18:52] <ssta> blackbox: it's listening on loopback (127.0.0.1)
[18:53] <blackbox> O , sockets files was the only one in the listed that I did work with/know about (I knew sockets but didn't know socket files thanks for that indfo)
[18:53] <ssta> blackbox: oh, and -a still translates numbers to names.  631 is the "ipp" port.  If you do netstat -an you'll see the 631
[18:54] <ssta> -n says "don't bother translating numbers to names".  (much faster too)
[18:54] <blackbox> no I don't?
[18:55] <ssta> no you don't what?
[18:55] <blackbox> sorry , I do tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:631             0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
[18:55] <blackbox> tcp6       0      0 :::631                  :::*                    LISTEN
[18:55] <blackbox> udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:631             0.0.0.0:*
[18:55] <ssta> umm, 0.0.0.0?!
[18:55] <urlin2u> !pastebin | BlackBinary
[18:56] <ssta> did you change something in the configuration file?
[18:56] <BlackBinary> urlin2u: wtf?
[18:56] <abu-bakrLaptop> ssta, thanks.. got it working :)
[18:56] <urlin2u> BlackBinary, sorry
[18:57] <urlin2u> !wtf | BlackBinary
[18:57] <ssta> "wtf" is bad language?
[18:57] <ssta> this place is getting worse by the day
[18:57] <urlin2u> ssta, it is the same as it as always been.
[18:58] <abu-bakrLaptop> lol
[18:58] <ssta> whatever
[18:59] <urlin2u> exceopt for the unity desktop of course. :D
  so I am I correct in saying cups (common unix printing service ) must run on some tcp/ip port and the only way to restrict access to it is firewalls. Because stoping cups stops the print spooler  and won't allow you to print. Correct me if I am wrong
[18:59] <ssta> blackbox: no, it doesn't need to run on any tcp/ip port
[19:00] <abu-bakrLaptop> guys why can i not see the files that rsync is transferring in to my backup directory?
[19:00] <ssta> blackbox: but yes, stopping the cups service stops the spooler
[19:00] <abu-bakrLaptop> tried gksu nautilus
[19:00] <Mathuin_> Still looking for help re: Unity desktop.
[19:00] <blackbox> then why does netstat say anything if it is not using a tcp/ip port about it?
[19:01] <ssta> blackbox: I didn't say it *wasn't* using a port, I said it didn't have to
[19:01] <elb0w> How do I update apt repo's from shell?
[19:01] <blackbox> or is netstat different then windows netstat and displays socket file info as well as tcp/ip info?
[19:01] <elb0w> is there  autoconfigure command?
[19:01] <ssta> by default it will run on localhost only (although for some reason you're listening on everything)
[19:01] <ssta> blackbox: yes
[19:01] <blackbox> "blackbox: I didn't say it *wasn't* using a port, I said it didn't have to" How is this accomplished?
[19:02] <ssta> elb0w: sudo apt-get update
[19:02] <ssta> blackbox: by using a socket file
[19:02] <urlin2u> Mathuin_, for icons in panel tick the keep in launcher when there with a right click.
[19:02] <elb0w> ssta: yeah just did that
[19:02] <elb0w> thanks
[19:02] <blackbox> Do you have an example of how you would go about doing it with a socket file?
[19:03] <ssta> blackbox: not really, no.  You don't need an example, you need to understand the unix filesystem model.
[19:03] <ssta> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_domain_socket
[19:04] <blackbox> Ok, I will read up on socket files but correct me if I am wrong using socket files will shutdown the ablity to access the web cups interfacer . Corrctet?
[19:04] <ssta> the main thing to remember is that in Unix (almost) everything is (can be) treated as a file
[19:05] <ssta> blackbox: I'm not sure about that one.  I suspect so though, yes
[19:05] <ssta> blackbox: is there any harm leaving it listening on 127.0.0.1?  That#s loopback, and can only be accessed from the local machine
[19:05] <blackbox> Because my main point is to shutdown the web interface for cups?
[19:05] <ubuntu> hey budddy
[19:06] <wolfmitchell> What is the difference between 11.10 and 12.04 alpha?
[19:06] <blackbox> Yes , their is some harm
[19:06] <ubuntu> hi everybody
[19:06] <dannel> 12.04
[19:06] <dannel> 12.04>11.10
[19:06] <sikilpaake> anybody know how to use rsync?
[19:06] <blackbox> Alot of users use this same computer
[19:06] <abu-bakrLaptop> ok, lets see if anyone can figure this little riddle out...
[19:07] <ssta> blackbox: othen turn off the web interface (set "WebInterface No" in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf)
[19:07] <abu-bakrLaptop> i am rsyncing a remote directory over ssh
[19:07] <abu-bakrLaptop> i have ssh pointing to a local ip address ending in 101
[19:07] <wolfmitchell> The version number is the only difference? That and the alpha label? <uninstall>
[19:07] <dannel> wolfmitchell, you got it!
[19:08] <abu-bakrLaptop> it was a wifi connection running very slow for some reason.. so i plugged in a cable (hence a different ip ending in 103) but rsync is still going and has speeded up
[19:08] <wolfmitchell> Where is the uninstall button?
[19:08] <wolfmitchell> TRolol
[19:08] <ssta> wolfmitchell: it's a different releasse...once 12.04 is released there'll be a release notes which will detail the differences
[19:08] <pppasw> tyryrtyry
[19:08] <dannel> okay, the difference is .94
[19:08] <Mathuin_> urlin2u: that doesn't work with Minecraft.  I click the icon that remains, it pulses several times, but Minecraft does not open.
[19:08] <urlin2u> wolfmitchell, uninstall  button?
[19:09] <abu-bakrLaptop> i see.,. no one knows then
[19:09] <wolfmitchell> I was kidding.
[19:09] <urlin2u> Mathuin_, yopu have another dock like docky?
[19:09] <urlin2u> you*
[19:09] <Mathuin_> urlin2u: no.  stock oneiric, one day old install.
[19:10] <urlin2u> Mathuin_, you might try synapse which is a nice key prompt for finding stuff
[19:10] <blackbox> you mean BrowseWebIF NO ?
[19:10] <blackbox> because I don't have your setting maybe I have to create it?
[19:11] <wolfmitchell> Imma delete my 12.04 VM
[19:11] <Mathuin_> Speaking of which, whatever brain surgeon thought nuking synaptic was a good idea must hate users.
[19:11] <ssta> blackbox: on mine it's WebInterface, I don't have a BrowseWebIF
[19:11] <urlin2u> Mathuin_, you can make desktop launcher as well. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-create-desktop-launchers-in-ubuntu-11-10oneiric.html
[19:11] <ssta> blackbox: maybe you have a different version
[19:11] <CarlFK> is Maverick the current LTS desktop?
[19:12] <urlin2u> !tab | wolfmitchell
[19:12] <Gentoo64> CarlFK, no lucid
[19:12] <ssta> CarlFK: Lucid
[19:12] <urlin2u> CarlFK, yes
[19:12] <CarlFK> lol
[19:12] <ssta> Next LTS will be Priapic
[19:12] <urlin2u> CarlFK, oops lucid is
[19:12] <CarlFK> maybe!  is it 10.10?
[19:12] <ssta> umm, Precise :)
[19:12] <Mathuin_> urlin2u: the desktop launcher is my next step, I'm just somewhat disappointed at the idea of making Unity the one true path while not actually making it easy to use.  Very disappointed, trying to work with what we've got.
[19:12] <blackbox> take a look http://pastebin.com/svjyQMsw
[19:12] <ssta> CarlFK: 10.04
[19:13] <Mathuin_> But the desktop launcher is what I'll try with her tonight.  Is there a howto on that?
[19:13] <CarlFK> thanks all.
[19:13] <urlin2u> Mathuin_, can you speak with total authority with one days install, unity can be tweaked like all desktops, don't just join the unity hating lemming team.
[19:14] <Gentoo64> unity sucks
[19:14] <CarlFK> when is Lucid support over?
[19:14] <blackbox> what the hell are the browsing settings used for in cupsd.conf http://pastebin.com/svjyQMsw
[19:14] <wolfmitchell> Where can I find the first version of Ubuntu?
[19:14] <dannel> CarlFK: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28operating_system%29#Releases
[19:14] <urlin2u> Gentoo64, claimed from your parents basement?
[19:14] <Gentoo64> CarlFK, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[19:15] <Mathuin_> urlin2u: I can speak with total authority based on having installed and used oneiric on other systems since it was released, plus having used Unity on previous releases.
[19:15] <ssta> Lucid's supported until 2013 on desktop I think
[19:15] <dannel> I love Unity, it's so clean and gets out of your way.. but is well-polished and has some subtle eye-candy (glow effects on minimize etc)
[19:15] <urlin2u> Mathuin_, then why did you install it that makes no sense.
[19:15] <Mathuin_> And I don't *want* to join the hate crowd.  I *want* to like it, or at least use it, but when basic questions like "How do I make a button" are impossible to solve by searching documentation, it's hard.
[19:15] <ssta> dannel: to each his own...personally I despise unity :)
[19:15] <Mathuin_> I installed it because my lucid install was showing signs of wear.
[19:15] <blackbox> well , I guess they cann't change anything if I don't put them in the lpadmin group :)
[19:16] <dannel> Also, ssta is 2000% more stable than gnome shell in my experience
[19:16] <dannel> unity*
[19:16] <Mathuin_> I like interfaces I can't see, to be honest.  fvwm was the peak of window managers.
[19:16] <Gentoo64> Mathuin_, there are other ubuntus
[19:16] <ssta> Mathuin_: I've heard people say it's worth getting used to, and other people say that there's no getting used to it.  I guess it's a marmite DE
[19:16] <blackbox> But I really wouldn't want them even to view it that is cups web interface
[19:16] <dannel> It's ironic a product named unity has caused this divide :-)
[19:17] <Mathuin_> As long as I can do the basic things I want to do, and I don't have to go through phone calls like "okay, click the dash button.  the one at the top left.  now type terminal.  click the terminal.  now type java dash jar ..."
[19:17] <ssta> dannel: I can't get used to it, and it it's not built for the multihead desktops I have.
[19:17] <Mathuin_> It should be literally as easy as "right-click in blank space on the launcher bar, get a menu, select add launcher, get a window where I type crap in, type crap in, click apply/close/whatever, get a new button".
[19:18] <Mathuin_> I can't even modify the keep-in-launcher thing.
[19:18] <wolfmitchell> Anyone know where I can find the first version of Ubuntu?
[19:18] <ssta> Mathuin_: in fairness, I imagine that sort of thing will come in a release or 4 (maybe)
[19:18] <urlin2u> Mathuin_, have you tried out gnome 3 or the other 50 desktops available. http://xwinman.org/
[19:18] <Mathuin_> ssta: sure, but if it's not ready for the users, it shouldn't be set as the default.
[19:18] <conntrack> :(
[19:18] <ssta> wolfmitchell: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com
[19:18] <dannel> As the saying goes.. perfection is not when there's nothing left to add, but when there's nothing to take away. It's better to miss a few features than be bloated like KDE?
[19:18] <Mathuin_> urlin2u: I've been using window managers since 1990.  :-)
[19:19] <CarlFK> wolfmitchell: debian.org :)
[19:19] <ssta> Mathuin_: the choir, you are preaching to it :P
[19:19] <Gentoo64> conntrack, you always, out of the blue type something random lol
[19:19] <Mathuin_> ssta: yes, but I'm hoping one of the soloists has a seekrit trick that will enable my sweetie to stop saying "you know, this is easier on windows". :-)
[19:20] <conntrack> I keep typing in the wrong network lol
[19:20] <Gentoo64> heh ok
 well BrowseWebIF YES didn't work what did you say your varible was in cupsd.conf I will try adding that and restarting to see if that worked
[19:20] <Gentoo64> Mathuin_, it probably is easier on windows than on gnome 3, but if its annoying you so much, why dont you use an easier de?
[19:21] <Gentoo64> i think every other de has simple options like create a shortcut
[19:21] <ssta> Mathuin_: maybe I'm just too old.  I can't see myself ever wating to use unity.
[19:21] <iToast> hery
[19:21] <iToast> Hey*
[19:21] <iToast> Quesiton
[19:21] <iToast> How does transmission work.
[19:22] <ssta> much as I enjoy this kind of rant about Unity, it probably belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:22] <iToast> Can someone pm me how it works
[19:22] <Mathuin_> I agree, ssta, but the rant is wrapped around "help me fix the problem" so I thought it was on-topic.
[19:22] <iToast> Ima brb in about 1 hour cuz i need to to something
[19:22] <iToast> do*
[19:22] <ssta> Mathuin_: fair enough :)
[19:22] <iToast> Can you explain transmission bit torrent client
[19:23] <prime> iToast go for qbitorrent, its more like utorrent for windows
[19:24] <prime> Also learn to read help or documentation files of any software, the basic knowledge required to use it is always included..
[19:24] <blackbox> WebInterface No didn't stop . I guess for now I will just make sure nobody is in the lpadmin group other then me.
[19:24] <ssta> blackbox: did you restart cups after making the change?
[19:24] <blackbox> yes
[19:24] <blackbox>  sudo /etc/init.d/cups restart
[19:25]  * ssta looks to find what the settings should be to turn it off
[19:26] <blackbox> Maybe some browse setting has to be set to NO in my version duno?  http://pastebin.com/svjyQMsw
[19:27] <blackbox> http://pastebin.com/uPyPSRax this is the new cupsd I have
[19:27] <urlin2u> Mathuin_, not meeting the partners needs is like the myth of Sisyphus.
[19:28] <Mathuin_> urlin2u: except Sisyphus didn't have to worry about having his source of nookie cut off.  That was Lysistrata.
[19:28] <XiaolinDraconis> i cant get gmameui to play anything
[19:29] <urlin2u> Mathuin_, lol
[19:30] <pp7>  /me
[19:30] <pp7> oops
[19:30] <mister2> hey, does anybody know if the MSI RX300HM-TD128E is better than a geforce 6200? i've been looking around and it's a pain in the ass to figure it out... :/ thanks for any help
[19:31] <barbadillo_> hi all
[19:31] <ssta> blackbox: sorry, I can't see how to diable it (which, yes, is a bad thing imo...it surely is possible)
[19:31] <barbadillo_> I'm trying to advance to 11.10
[19:31] <pp7> barbadillo_: go for it!
[19:31] <barbadillo_> but it say that I may have problems with my intel integrated video card
 thanks for you efforts I appreciate it have a good day ;)
[19:33] <barbadillo_> "the support for intel video cards is limited in ubuntu 11.10, you may experience problems after the advance. Continue?
[19:33] <barbadillo_> "
[19:35] <ssta> aha
[19:35] <mmxm> oi
[19:35] <mmxm> alquem ai
[19:35] <ssta> blackbox: remove the line "BrowserAddress @LOCAL" and restart cups.  That disables it
[19:35] <ssta> umm, BrowseAddress
[19:35] <ssta> knew it had to be posssible
[19:35] <Gentoo64> hes gone
[19:36] <ssta> oh
[19:36] <mmxm> what
[19:36] <ssta> ah well, I know it was possible :)
[19:39] <barbadillo_> maybe I will experience problems only within unity?
[19:40] <GaRRu> Hello, I want to change a VMDK File into an ISO. Anyone knows how? Using Ubuntu 11.04
[19:40] <iToast> prime this is for a server
[19:40] <iToast> The goal is to have a Seedbox :D
[19:40] <iToast> btw
[19:40] <Gentoo64> iToast, transmission or rtorrent are good
[19:40] <iToast> Il see ubuntu 10.4 and 11.4 server and desktop ISO's
[19:40] <iToast> Gentoo64: I know, i was asking about transmission
[19:40] <Gentoo64> what about it?
[19:41] <iToast> Hmm
[19:41] <iToast> How do i use it on the server
[19:41] <iToast> :p
[19:41] <Gentoo64> idk
[19:41] <Gentoo64> lol
[19:41] <Gentoo64> i only use the gui, and rtorrent for cli
[19:41] <iToast> Your talking to a dude who has NEVER used torrents on linux.
[19:41] <Gentoo64> rtorrent is dead easy
[19:41] <oddveig_> Do you guys know a program similar to Synaptic?
[19:41] <Gentoo64> id use that for cli, loads of people use it for seeding
[19:41] <iToast> Gentoo64: I need to be able to controll it from a external divice
[19:42] <iToast> oddveig_: goto terminal and use apt-get
[19:42] <iToast> ;P
[19:42] <ssta> oddveig_: what's wrong with synaptic?
[19:42] <oddveig_> ssta: Doesn't work. Tried everything. Segmentation fault
[19:42] <ssta> that's weird
[19:43] <oddveig_> that's what she said.
[19:43] <ssta> tried reinstalling it?
[19:43] <oddveig_> yeah
[19:43] <oddveig_> couple times
[19:43] <ssta> very strange...
[19:43] <iToast> oddveig_: your doing it wrong.
[19:43] <ssta> worth a bug report I reckon
[19:43] <Gentoo64> iToast, i dont know much about transmission apart from the gui side, but it has cli, and remote options
[19:43] <Gentoo64> id google it a bit
[19:43] <oddveig_> I'm using linux mint tho
[19:43] <XiaolinDraconis> is there a channel i can go to to ask about using mame?
[19:44] <iToast> Gentoo64: what could a begginner setup on a linux server that can be used to download torrents through the night and seed 24/7
[19:44] <iToast> With a remote gui / web ui
[19:44] <oddveig_> I don't really need synaptic, I can use aptitude, but it would be nice witha GUI
[19:45] <ssta> there isn't really anything quite like it
[19:45] <Gentoo64> iToast, rtorrent has web guis, so does transmission. i have never used transmissions cli so idk about the configs, but rtorrent is very basic config
[19:45] <ImTheDude> my mouse is not working
[19:45] <XiaolinDraconis> you can control transmission with any device that has a java enabled web browser
[19:45] <iToast> Gentoo64: Everything is happening in the ui
[19:45] <ImTheDude> battery died
[19:45] <iToast> The machine its on is a headless box
[19:45] <iToast> i just ssh in to install software
[19:45] <spaceneedle> I don't know why nvidia-common is installed on my laptop. I have intel graphics.
[19:46] <Gentoo64> iToast, id say rtorrent, you can install a variety of web guis
[19:46] <ImTheDude> there
[19:46] <iToast> Gentoo64: Any guides
[19:46] <Gentoo64> iToast, http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/
[19:46] <The_Sh4m4N> hi evryone
[19:46] <Gentoo64> use the sample rtorrent.rc and edit it
[19:46] <The_Sh4m4N> i need and advine please
[19:47] <Gentoo64> iToast, or i could send you mine as well so you can get a basic idea (but mine is only for desktop)
[19:47] <The_Sh4m4N> i'm starting to learn python
[19:47] <Gentoo64> The_Sh4m4N, well, there is a python channel
[19:47] <iToast> Gentoo64: that won't work with my headless setup
[19:47] <iToast> XD
[19:47] <GaRRu> Hello, I want to change a VMDK File into an ISO. Anyone knows how? Using Ubuntu 11.04
[19:47] <iToast> The_Sh4m4N: #python
[19:47] <Gentoo64> iToast, i know, but so you can see the basic layout
[19:48] <iToast> Im look in the wiki
[19:48] <The_Sh4m4N> thanks
[19:48] <iToast> i looked on the wrong part of ubuntu.com
[19:48] <iToast> XD
[19:48] <The_Sh4m4N> evryone
[19:48] <Gentoo64> GaRRu, google vmdk to iso
[19:48] <AzoteLogiko> es
[19:49] <Gentoo64> i know google is frowned upon here
[19:49] <GaRRu> Gentoo64, Googled, no help there
[19:49] <iToast> GaRRu: use different search teamrs
[19:49] <iToast> terms*
[19:49] <Gentoo64> damn
[19:49] <cypher-neo> Gentoo64, Why would Google be frowned on?
[19:50] <Gentoo64> they dont like suggesting google in here
[19:50] <Gentoo64> GaRRu, this is the first result http://www.turnkeylinux.org/blog/convert-vm-iso
[19:50] <bean> Gentoo64: I would say that is untrue. If you can google your problem it saves everyone a ton of work.
[19:50] <Gentoo64> i know, but they moan about it still
[19:50] <omid_> why google chrome in ubuntu is so alien ? i can see both chrome's and ubuntu's maximize , minimize and close buttons. and its not integrated well
[19:50] <GaRRu> Gentoo64, Look http://www.turnkeylinux.org/blog/convert-vm-iso and Look http://www.turnkeylinux.org/blog/convert-vdi-vmdk None of them worked.
[19:51] <Gentoo64> and people do need to learn google. i mean hes been waiting ages and asked twice already, all he had to do is type vmdk to iso in google :)
[19:51] <GaRRu> gentoo64, thats what I just sent you.. doesnt work
[19:51] <Gentoo64> maybe you did it wrong?
[19:51] <GaRRu> couldnt install the tlkpatch
[19:51] <ManDay> ikonia: To be fair, it turned out other GCC versions than 4.3 work with Matlab (though the fact that they are not guaranteed to still holds).
[19:51] <XiaolinDraconis> lmgtfy.com
[19:51] <GaRRu> and the rest is just not working...
[19:52] <GaRRu> maybe its because of the tlkpatch thing that couldnt find it
[19:52] <cypher-neo> omid_, You can hide the system borders on Google Chrome so only one set of buttons is visible.
[19:52] <Gentoo64> omid_, choose classic theme in the options
[19:53] <Gentoo64> under "personal stuff"
[19:53] <omid_> thankyou guys . brb
[19:53] <gandhijee_> hey, is there an anjuta release for 10.04 thats more upto date (ie 3.x series)?
[19:54] <cypher-neo> gandhijee_, Don't know about 10,04, but there is an anjuta release for 11.04
[19:55] <cypher-neo> gandhijee_, The current stable is 3.0.3.0-3~natty1
[19:55] <Gentoo64> GaRRu, sounds like that patch is the problem (if its not installing)
[19:55] <gandhijee_> cypher-neo, isn't there a backports for 10.04?
[19:55] <cypher-neo> gandhijee_, Looking now... one sec
[19:55] <GaRRu> Gentoo64 its not, It doesnt even find it in the packetkit
[19:55] <GaRRu> Gentoo64 any other way to help me around?
[19:56] <Gentoo64> it says you need to add a ppa
[19:56] <Gentoo64> the instructions are for that specific distro, which isnt ubuntu
[19:56] <Gentoo64> it has other instructions in there
[19:56] <Gentoo64> tbh sounds like a mess to me, do you really need to convert it that bad?
[19:56] <cypher-neo> gandhijee_, Sorry, the current version 3.2.0-0ubuntu1 for oneiric
[19:57] <cypher-neo> gandhijee_, I don't see any backports for 10.04
[19:57] <GaRRu> Yes, By the way I got VM VirtualBox installed
[19:57] <cypher-neo> gandhijee_, Looks like the 10.04 stable is 2.30
[19:57] <gandhijee_> cypher-neo, og well =/ guess i might have to do it myself then
[19:57] <GaRRu> anyway to mount it?
[19:57] <GaRRu> to the system
[19:57] <GaRRu> ?
[19:57] <Gentoo64> GaRRu, if you can access the vmdk from a vboxed windows it might be easier
[19:57] <gandhijee_> yea, and it keeps crashing on my system =.
[19:58] <chabicobidjahid> please , help me I have an error when I run apt-get update in my terminal, you can see , the bug at      http://paste.ubuntu.com/776725/
[19:58] <GaRRu> Problem, I need to convert it to an ISO format to do that
[19:58] <Gentoo64> you can put it in a shared folder
[19:59] <Gentoo64> then let windows guest access it
[19:59] <autojack> I just installed oneiric on a Dell laptop, and I'm trying to get wifi working. the Additional Drivers control panel shows a Broadcom proprietary driver already installed and working, supposedly, but ifconfig and iwconfig don't show a wifi interface. do I just need to follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx ? (that's the chipset I have)
[20:00] <chabicobidjahid> please , help me I have an error when I run apt-get update in my terminal, you can see , the bug at      http://paste.ubuntu.com/776725/
[20:00] <chabicobidjahid> please , help me I have an error when I run apt-get update in my terminal, you can see , the bug at      http://paste.ubuntu.com/776725/
[20:00] <chabicobidjahid> please , help me I have an error when I run apt-get update in my terminal, you can see , the bug at      http://paste.ubuntu.com/776725/
[20:00] <FloodBot1> chabicobidjahid: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:00] <Mathuin_> Ooh, that reminds me.  I enabled "additional drivers" for my video card and have nvidia-current but the "about" app in settings doesn't show it.
[20:00] <GaRRu> Gentoo64, There is a way to make the vm VB mount it in the system itself, I saw it throw Google but I had a problem with the old version of VB there (witch didnt help me with my version)
[20:00] <GaRRu> Sec ill send you a link
[20:01] <cypher-neo> chabicobidjahid, I'm sorry, I'm trying to read it. My French is horrible though.
[20:01] <Gentoo64> GaRRu, oh so you trying to get vbox to mount it?
[20:01] <Gentoo64> that why you need it in iso
[20:01] <ssta> chabicobidjahid: means that the signature for the release file is bad.  Either use a different mirror, or wait.  Could be that the mirror pulse failed or soemthing
[20:01] <ssta> that's the ubuntu archive signing key...but it doesn't like the signature
[20:02] <Gentoo64> GaRRu, i know theres a vmware converter for windows idk if it makes iso or not
[20:03] <ssta> vboxmanage can convert from vmdk to vdi I know.  Not sure if it can do iso as well (worrth a look maybe)
[20:03] <XiaolinDraconis> why does mame have to be so damned difficult
[20:03] <Gentoo64> GaRRu, try what ssta said
[20:03] <XiaolinDraconis> i just wanna play freicking metal slug!
[20:03] <dddbmt> Hi guys. I've been struggling with my apache+php+mysql setup on my laptop for the last couple of days. I've gotten to a point where I managed to make apache serve HTML files correct. But when accessing php in the browser it requests me to download the file.
[20:04] <GaRRu> Gentoo64 Well I need it for everything, not only mounting it. The mounting thing is the only way I see that I can convert it to ISO file. Its mostly for just making the images Iso. (as you know vmdk doesnt work on all systems)
[20:04] <XiaolinDraconis> now i gotta get 500 copies of the game just to see what works with my particular version of mame
[20:04] <dddbmt> So I suppose that apache isn't configured correctly to handle PHP files, even thoug "$ a2enmod php" said it was already enabled.
[20:04] <Guest10324> sera
[20:05] <dddbmt> Anyone got an idea of the top of your heads?
[20:05] <JoeSomebody> trying to install kubuntu on win 7 toshiba satellite 650 "starting configure network device" and then it just stops
[20:05] <JoeSomebody> any ideas?
[20:05] <GaRRu> ssta, do you know how to do it?
[20:05] <maujhsn> urlin2u Can you help me out for a moment?
[20:05] <autojack> hmm. anyone? it looks like everything should be ok for wifi, but iwconfig sees nothing.
[20:05] <GaRRu> ssta, If its like the site I gave.. its a problem I cant install the tklpatch thing.
[20:05] <urlin2u> maujhsn, I can try
[20:06] <Gentoo64> GaRRu, no its to convert vmdk to vdi, which vbox can read
[20:06] <ssta> GaRRu: off the top of my head, no.  Like I said, I know it can do vmdk->vdi, dunno about iso.  try "vboxmanage --help" maybe?
[20:06] <BluesKaj> autojack, what about ifconfig?
[20:07] <autojack> BluesKaj: only shows eth0 and lo
[20:07] <cypher-neo> JoeSomebody, On my Toshiba I occasionally need to plug an ethernet cable into the modem/router directly.
[20:07] <maujhsn> urlin2u I am downloading a file from ffmpeg & have a text file that starts like this: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
[20:07] <JoeSomebody> i cant even run the live cd
[20:08] <cypher-neo> JoeSomebody, For some reason, the Toshiba wireless cards don't always work with Ubuntu default drivers.
[20:08] <rob> Hey is there no longer any way to put the desktop in the nautilus sidebar anymore?
[20:08] <JoeSomebody> well i know what the somw reason is LOL
[20:08] <autojack> BluesKaj: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx says to install bcmwl-kernel-source, but that's already up to date. I also just rebooted and that didn't do anything either.
[20:09] <maujhsn> urlin2u is this a straight cut & paste into my terminal to sign for a package!
[20:09] <JoeSomebody> looks like that friend is staying with windows ARRGG
[20:09] <urlin2u> rob, you use the edit bookmarks.
[20:09] <urlin2u> maujhsn, not sure really.
[20:11] <rob> urlin2u the desktop is in my bookmarks, but not in the sidebar
[20:11] <urlin2u> rob, actuall open the desktop from nautilus click te bookmarks in top panel then add bookmark
[20:11] <urlin2u> actually*
[20:11] <maujhsn> urlin2u OK! It has been a while since I have executed this type of instruction!
[20:11] <arrrghhh> hey all, my mom's laptop has 11.10 on it and only boots to a blank screen after the latest kernel update
[20:11] <arrrghhh> recovery mode works "sometimes" evidently.
[20:11] <mzaza> When I use sudo mysql-admin -h host_ip I get an error that couldn't ping hostname. Any ideas?
[20:11] <BluesKaj> autojack, what lsmod tell you ?
[20:12] <BluesKaj> does
[20:12] <arrrghhh> i'm about to get a teamviewer session into the laptop
[20:12] <urlin2u> rob, you mean the unity sidebar,not sure there.
[20:12] <rob> no the lefthand side of the nautilus file browser
[20:12] <Gentoo64> arrrghhh, thats for windows tho
[20:12] <arrrghhh> Gentoo64, ?  no it's not...
[20:12] <autojack> BluesKaj: a bunch of drivers loaded :) I see wl and lib80211...
[20:13] <Gentoo64> arrrghhh, o yea i forgot it had linux version
[20:13] <BluesKaj> modprobe the wl  , however it's listed there, autojack
[20:14] <autojack> modprobe it anyway?
[20:14] <Gentoo64> arrrghhh, its prob something to do with the graphics drivers
[20:14] <arrrghhh> Gentoo64, what to look for?
[20:14] <autojack> I notice that the b43 driver doesn't seem to be loaded.
[20:14] <GaRRu> ssta, I will try.
[20:14] <BluesKaj> yeah autojack just see if there's an error
[20:14] <GaRRu> ssta, Gentoo64, I will be back some minutes
[20:15] <blackbox> socket files in linux/unix are the same as sockets know weather you have the socket running on udp ,tcp , or some other protocal it is still a socket open to connection if you do not restrict access with a firewall /some type of security . In the case of my cups I need to just close the web admin interface (don't know how to do that yett))
[20:15] <autojack> BluesKaj: no error when I do modprobe wl
[20:15] <ssta> blackbox: remove the line: BrowseAddress @LOCAL
[20:15] <blackbox> But you will allways have a port running for cups it is inevitable
[20:15] <ssta> blackbox: then restart cups
[20:15] <ssta> blackbox: and a socket file is different
[20:15] <autojack> BluesKaj: modprobe b43 seemed to work, now that's loaded.
[20:16] <autojack> and now iwconfig shows wlan0
[20:16] <hje841> Hi, I'm just getting started on doing some socket programming following this: http://beej.us/guide/bgnet/output/html/multipage/index.html but how do I tell my project where to find my .h-files?
[20:16] <BluesKaj> autojack, ok that's good
[20:16] <autojack> so I guess the driver just wasn't loaded on boot. how do I fix that?
[20:16] <blackbox> what can you do with a socket file that you cann't do with a socket and visa - vesa . Then?
[20:16] <hje841> I'm in ubuntu 10.04
[20:16] <rob> urlin2u see here: http://i.imgur.com/OKEVa.png
[20:16] <ssta> blackbox: you can set per-user permissions on a file that you can't on a port
[20:17] <autojack> BluesKaj: hmm, the network menu on the top toolbar says "device not ready (firmware missing)" under Wireless Networks.
[20:18] <blackbox> yes you can restrict particular users on / ip address ,...etc if you really wanted to get into iptables and firewalls
[20:18] <sunboy2> Hello.  does anyone know of an app that works in ubuntu that replaces autohotkey for windows?
[20:18] <blackbox> on a socket
[20:18] <BluesKaj> autojack, I'm not sure , is it listed as enabled in network manager?
[20:18] <ssta> blackbox: no you can't.  A port doesn't know what user is connecting to it
[20:18] <urlin2u> rob, not sure really.
[20:18] <ok_wait> could someone running 11.10 kindly go into synaptic and select the category GNOME Desktop Environment (Multiverse) and tell me roughly how many packages are listed there?
[20:18] <vsync_> over 9000
[20:18] <rob> urlin2u no probs, thanks
[20:19] <ok_wait> i have 2
[20:19] <autojack> BluesKaj: yep, I see it there. it says "firmware missing" there too.
[20:19] <blackbox> you can restrict the ip address , mac address , and I believe their is a trick to restricting user cann't say though ;)
[20:19] <blackbox> what did you want me to try with BrowseAddress @LOCAL
[20:19] <ssta> blackbox: you can restrict IP and mac, yes.  You don't have any idea who the user is though
[20:20] <BluesKaj> autojack, try a relogin or reboot , to see if will load
[20:20] <blackbox> depends on the application
[20:20] <autojack> BluesKaj: I did reboot once and it didn't load at that time.
[20:20] <ssta> blackbox: comment out the line, then restart cups.  That disables the web interface (I tested it here, it definitely does)
[20:20] <ssta> blackbox: no, it doesn't depend on the application.  a tcp/ip port has no idfea what user is connecting.  That's fundamental to the protocol
[20:21] <hje841> How do I direct my compiler to /usr/include/ to get the .h-files I want included in my socket-program?
[20:21] <blackbox> nope didn't work
[20:21] <BluesKaj> aut sorry , I'm out of ideas ...I'm no real wifi guru anyway :P
[20:21] <ssta> hje841: gcc -I/usr/include .....
[20:21] <ssta> blackbox: I tested it here and it worked
[20:21] <BluesKaj> autojack,^
[20:21] <sunboy2> anyone know of a hotkey application that would work in 10.10?
[20:22] <hje841> ssta: doesn't work :S
[20:22] <arrrghhh> anyone?  black screen on boot?
[20:22] <arrrghhh> recovery mode only works on older kernels?  seems related to a kernel update.
[20:22] <ok_wait> nobody else has 2 packages in the GNOME Desktop Environment (Multiverse) category?
[20:22] <blackbox> I know that but if you have a particular application running say like ftp or ssh then the socket that is used in those applications wcould be restricted to a particular user
[20:23] <attilio> ciao
[20:23] <blackbox> but I get what you are saying tcp or ip layer can only restrict mac or ip's
[20:23] <ssta> blackbox: no, the *listening* daemon runs with the privileges of a particular user.  That's not the same thing
[20:23] <attilio> lista
[20:24] <attilio> list
[20:24] <ManDay> Where in the FS does Ubuntu configure the    Keyboard (console) layout    and   the locale    ?
[20:25] <blackbox> yes but , but you cann't authenticate / use the socket for that port unless you know the password
[20:25] <BluesKaj> !list |attilio
[20:25] <pangolin> !locales | ManDay
[20:25] <BluesKaj> !it | attilio
[20:25] <blackbox> for example cann't use ftp server  if you don't know the password?
[20:25] <pangolin> ManDay: as for the KB I am not sure
[20:26] <blackbox> cann't use it's socket
[20:26] <ssta> blackbox: no, you can *connect* to the ftp server...whether it will let you in or not is a seperate issue
[20:26] <hje841> With -I/usr/include I still get 'implicit declaration'-errors. any ideas? I've checked and the .h-files is present
[20:26] <blackbox> to get to that service
[20:26] <pmatulis> can i remove zeitgeist-core with no worries?
[20:26] <ssta> blackbox: it's two different layers.  Connection and authentication
[20:26] <sunboy2> anyone know of a shortcut key utility for ubuntu?
[20:26] <blackbox> easy, my mistake you are correct I see
[20:27] <ManDay> pangolin: Thank you. Though originally I had hoped you could tell me a config file
[20:27] <ssta> I have to go sleep.  You can believe me or not as you wish
[20:27] <pangolin> ManDay: that wiki should tell you :)
[20:27] <arrrghhh> anyone!?!?
[20:27] <arrrghhh> please?
[20:27] <pangolin> !pm | sunboy2
[20:27] <arrrghhh> how can i even tell which driver i'm using for video?
[20:28] <ManDay> pangolin: I did not mean how to generate a locale, but rather how to set it in the enviroment
[20:28] <blackbox> so then the only difference in a socket and a socket file would be restricting user/groups instead of just ip , or mac address. MYou can be more restrictivve . Is that all or is their some other differences between the 2 . I know you can create one using mknod or mkfifo
[20:28] <ssta> hje841: are you #include <foo.h> or #include "foo.h"?  Try the other one, whiever you're doing.
[20:29] <hje841> ssta: I'm using < > as I usually would
[20:31] <ssta> hje841: try "".  If it's not seeing /usr/include as the default header location for some reason, and you have to specify it with -I, then maybe "" is required instead of "".  I'm not sure though, my C is mega-rusty
[20:31] <hje841> ssta: using " " made no difference  :(
[20:32] <attilio> list
[20:33] <hje841> (Is it IM-client specific how to get rid of the 'join' 'disconnected' messages?)
[20:33] <ManDay> Does anyone know in which configuration files the environemtn for the locale is set and in which configuration file the keyboard layout for the console is specified?
[20:33] <ssta> blackbox: file sockets are faster, use fewer resources, are easier to share across processes...manty reasons to use them.  And you don't create them with mknod or mkfifo.  You use a socket() call in C, or a bus maager like dbus.
[20:33] <ssta> hje841: sorry then, I'm afraid I don't know what to suggest
[20:33] <hje841> ssta: okay, thanks for trying
[20:34] <ManDay> hje841: yes it is
 I see so when you create a program which uses sockets essentially you are creating a file socket in the background. Correct?
[20:35] <autojack> BluesKaj: this was the solution: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10785315&postcount=14
[20:35] <autojack> BluesKaj: thanks for the help though!
[20:35] <ssta> blackbox: umm, if you do it that way, yes.
[20:36] <ssta> blackbox: see: man 7 unix
[20:37] <blackbox> Then won't creating a socket program you would have the ability to deny by user/groups not only ip / macs ....because you have the underlying socket file being created for it?
[20:37] <ssta> no
when you create the socket
[20:37] <blackbox> why no?
[20:38] <BluesKaj> autojack, cool , glad it works for you :)
[20:38] <ssta> when you creaate it, you specify what type it is.  If it's a file (AF_UNIX) then it's nowhere near the tcp stack and IP/MAC aren't relevant.  If it's a tcp port (AF_INET) then there's no file associated.
[20:39] <ssta> this is far too technical and detailed for this channel though
[20:39] <ssta> and I'm too tired
[20:40] <ssta> just take my word for it...or not...as you choose
[20:40] <tomasz> hi
[20:40] <tomasz> somebody help pls
[20:40] <murfie> ok
[20:40] <tomasz> i use chromium
[20:40] <jutnux> What's the problem tomasz?
[20:40] <murfie> apt-get purge chromium
[20:41] <blackbox> I see so sockets incorporate socket files. I.E sockets is a superset the socket files to put it into math terms because AF_UNIX
[20:41] <tomasz> and from few day i see
[20:41] <tomasz> missing plug in
[20:41] <jutnux> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:41] <Pici> !enter
[20:41] <jutnux> @tomasz
[20:41] <sunboy2> Does anyone know anything about hotkeys
[20:41] <tomasz> yes
[20:42] <jutnux> tomasz: Have you installed the restricted extras?
[20:43] <tomasz> yes
[20:43] <blackbox> <ssta > because you can always get a socket file from creating a socket( AF_UNIX ...) so sockets are more general then file sockets so when you restrict the sockets to being a certain type then you get more control over them.
[20:43] <conntrack> interesting
[20:43] <blackbox> i.e have control be user/group
[20:43] <blackbox> by user/groups
[20:44] <blackbox> is their any other way to create a socket file apart from creating a type of socket because if so my logic would be wrong?
[20:45] <conntrack> wow
[20:46] <conntrack> Interesting reading your discussions on sockets
[20:46] <conntrack> Thanks for the tips
[20:47] <guntbert> blackbox: its not really on topic here - but what do you mean when you say "socket file"?
[20:47] <qwebirc93174> hello
[20:47] <tomasz> jutnux thank U:)
[20:47] <sunboy2> Keyboard text shortcuts? Anyone?
[20:48] <sunboy2> I really am amazed there's nothing about this online
[20:48] <blackbox> I am wondering if the only way to create a socket file/ socket device file is thru creating a socket with a socket function
[20:49] <andyn> isn't there the command line tool mkfifo?
[20:49] <blackbox> because if this is true then being able to restrict access at user level is just because you restricted the socket to a type of socket called file socket. ;)
 And the statement of saying you cann't restrict a socket to a user would be not completely true
[20:50] <blackbox> in all cases
[20:51] <_Neytiri_> i am having a issue with booting my system, i was updatiung it when it frose and now on boot i get this message:    [1.031492] Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on uknown-block(0,0)
[20:51] <andyn> but, those made with mkfifo are unidirectional pipes like those created with pipe(2)
[20:51] <st3n> Hi all. I'm using Lubuntu 11.10 on a HP elitebook 8440p. I have a random problem with hibernating. It works very well, but after few resumes (+/- 5), the hibernation fails. Actually, the screen turn off, according to the suspend-log file the processes seems freeze, BUT the memory doesn't seems to be copied to the swap (no HP blink) and the laptop don't turn off. No other option than a hard reset to recover. I have no idea how to debug this. Any advices ? (so
[20:51] <st3n> rry for my English))
[20:52] <conntrack> There sure is some great info to be had on irc
[20:52] <andyn> st3n: actually i have the exact same problem with my lenovo e325! i really hope someone here could help.
[20:52] <_Neytiri_> anyone?
[20:52] <st3n> andyn: so good to hear. I'm not alone :)
[20:52] <pkirkpat> Where is the correct place to ask a specific question related to ubuntu installer?
[20:53] <st3n> actually it is Lubuntu. I don't know if there is a difference for the hibernation
[20:53] <conntrack> Guess it time for the xmas lights
[20:56] <_Neytiri_> i am having a MAJOR issue with booting my system, i was updatiung it when it frose up on me, and now when i try to boot it, i get this message:    [1.031492] Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on uknown-block(0,0)
[20:56] <oCean> conntrack: please stay on topic
[20:56] <blackbox> curious if you forwarded info from a socket file socket to a tcp/ip based socket then any socket would have the ability to restrict at user level. Correct ;)?
[20:57] <blackbox> And there fore any socket could restrict at user level ;)
[20:57] <okCPU> #nodejs
[20:58] <andyn> uh, the application specific sockets are restricted to the owner of the process, i believe.
[20:58] <andyn> then again, you can transfer sockets through unix domain sockets in a single system. dunno how the permissions work on those.
[20:59] <blackbox> All I am saying is you can create a general tcp/ip socket and have user level control
[20:59] <blackbox> by createing a file socket and a tcpip passed one
[20:59] <blackbox> in your program
[21:00] <blackbox> Obviously not a pre-installed application unless you recoded it
[21:00] <blackbox> in that way
[21:00] <bf4648> how do you remove from the command line?  sudo apt-get remove ....?
[21:00] <st3n> andyn: for info, I was using backtrack4 (r1) on this laptop few month ago without any trouble. so it doesn't seems related to the laptop
[21:01] <bf4648> or sudo apt-get uninstall ?
[21:01] <genii-around> bf4648: The first one
[21:02] <andyn> st3n: i've had mine for a few weeks now, so i obviously have no experience with other distros than oneiric
[21:03] <Katronix> what does ubuntu call the httpd tool?
[21:03] <qwebirc93174> hello
[21:04] <html> hi
[21:04] <qwebirc93174> hello
[21:04] <Katronix> hi
[21:04] <guntbert> Katronix: what kind of tool?
[21:04] <_Neytiri_> i am having a MAJOR issue with booting my system, i was updatiung it when it frose up on me, and now when i try to boot it, i get this message:    [1.031492] Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on uknown-block(0,0)
[21:04] <html> ftp ? does anyone know how?
[21:05] <Katronix> guntbert its a tool from apache called httpd
[21:05] <blackbox> vsftp but I would use a secure thing like openssh
[21:05] <blackbox> sudo apt-get install openssh
[21:05] <html> me ? blackbox
[21:05] <guntbert> Katronix: ah, the http server :-)       apache2
[21:06] <Katronix> yeah I have that installed, but when I try to run the httpd tool it says its not installed and gives me 3 options
[21:07] <html>  blackbox ,"E: Unable to locate package openssh
[21:07] <html> "
[21:07] <guntbert> Katronix: what "httpd tool" ? give us your command line
[21:07] <Ea> hi
[21:07] <Katronix> the command httpd -S is supposed to help in diagnosing what is wrong
[21:08] <guntbert> html: openssh-server
[21:08] <blackbox> try changing the repo server you are using maybe main is down duno?
[21:08] <Ea> buen dia
[21:08] <blackbox> if you are using synaptic go and choose a different server and search for openssh
[21:09] <guntbert> blackbox: no, the package is openssh-server
[21:09] <_Neytiri_> does anyone know how i can fix my system
[21:09] <blackbox> o sorry figured you would google yup
[21:09] <iToast> Don't join the uTorrent support
[21:09] <iToast> The admins in there are AHOLES
[21:09] <guntbert> Katronix: it seems you are using some guide - have a look at http://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/
[21:09] <cpppp> hello
[21:09] <html>  blackbox ,  guntbert  i want to send my whole data off of my drive,, like a backup to a remote pc over the internet
[21:09] <iToast> I wen't there as a last resort for help. and got banned for not googling like i have been for 2 hours
[21:10] <iToast> -_-
[21:10] <oCean> iToast: such comment is not welcome here
[21:10] <iToast> oCean: ...
[21:10] <iToast> oCean: Its a heads up to everyone.
[21:10] <iToast> The admin's in there have been rude to EVERYONE
[21:10] <oCean> iToast: stop NOW
[21:10] <cpppp> i am trying to install ubuntu on virtualbox the point is when i try to install it it dont detecte the network
[21:10] <iToast> -_-
[21:10] <blackbox> use dd and ssh tunneling lol ;)
[21:10] <iToast> oCean: Can u stop telling me what to do 24/7? especialy when i am asking for help?
[21:10] <guntbert> html: you *can* do that with scp, from the openssh-client package
[21:11] <iToast> I've tried google multiple times -.-
[21:11] <iToast> Are there any articles on using ubuntu server as a seed box?!
[21:11] <oCean> iToast: I can prevent you from entering here. Please don't let it get that far
[21:11] <iToast> oCean: ...
[21:11] <jutnux> Nothing wrong with uTorrent is there? The swearing however...
[21:11] <oCean> jutnux: let's move on
[21:11] <iToast> i didn't use a swear word.
[21:11] <jutnux> Indeed.
[21:12] <html> blackbox,  how long would a 250 gb back up take,over a 12 down /1.3 upload connection
[21:12] <iToast> oCean: I could say soemthing about that, but i could say it in a diff channel to you, but ul still +b me here.
[21:12] <oCean> iToast: you're welcome to discuss channel rules in #ubuntu-ops
[21:12] <html> guntbert,  ?? huh?  scp?
[21:12] <iToast> im not after channel rules....
[21:12] <iToast> Anyways
[21:12] <iToast> Are there ANY articles on using ubuntu server as a seedbox?!
[21:12] <iToast> I tried ubuntu wiki
[21:13] <yabai_> yo
[21:13] <iToast> I tried google.
[21:13] <guntbert> html: yes, it needs an ssh server on the other side
[21:13] <guntbert> !enter | iToast
[21:13] <iToast> guntbert: ...
[21:13] <ZombieRamen> I'm having a problem with X.org and drivers - I can't start X
[21:13] <_Neytiri_> i am having a MAJOR issue with booting my system, i was updatiung it when it frose up on me, and now when i try to boot it, i get this message:    [1.031492] Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on uknown-block(0,0)
[21:13] <html> iToast,  i seed box? what that?  a torrant sever?
[21:13] <iToast> Seedbox, its a Torrent server.
[21:14] <jutnux> ...
[21:14] <bean> basically a server used solely for torrenting.
[21:14] <Besogon> hey. Eng. speakers.. could someone explain me a phrase on ##English channel?
[21:14] <bean> usually in a data center, though, and paid for.
[21:14] <bean> I have one for ~$23 a month with a crazy amount of resources.
[21:14] <oCean> Besogon: that has nothing to do with #ubuntu, right? Please stay on topic here
[21:14] <cpppp> i am trying to install ubuntu on virtualbox the point is when i try to install it it dont detecte the network
[21:14] <html> iToast,  i think i saw a few videos on youtube
[21:15] <jutnux> cppp: It should bridge the network from the OS you are running VBOX from.
[21:15] <Besogon> oCean, yes. I've called someone who can go to that channel. I haven't asked there
[21:16] <ZombieRamen> I can't start X after I uninstalled nvidia-settings, nvidia-current, and nvidia-#some number - I uninstalled the drivers after I removed my nvidia card
[21:16] <oCean> Besogon: we would get all sorts of requests here, that's just not acceptable.
[21:16] <Besogon> ok
[21:16] <html> ssh  filezilla  its that the same?
[21:17] <oCean> Besogon: feel free to /join #ubuntu-offtopic and ask there
[21:17] <EvilResistance> html:  no
[21:17] <andyn> i wonder if blackbox realized why there's no cli command to create unix domain sockets
[21:17] <EvilResistance> html:  ssh is not FTP on its own, FileZilla is FTP/SFTP/FTPS, but not ssh, which allows you to have remote access to commands from another system
[21:17] <andyn> mainly because binding to one actually requires creating one, and creating one fails if it exists
[21:18] <ZombieRamen> Can anyone help me with my problem? i tried editing grub so ubuntu would boot without quiet splash and with nomodeset, but i still can't startx
[21:19] <_calum> I am having trouble calibrating axis on an n64 controller for playing Zelda in Mupen64. When I move Link his movement is pathetic
[21:19] <ZombieRamen> When I try to startx, the program throws an error about missing the nvidia driver, which is still in X.org
[21:19] <GaRRu> I've Got a VMDK file I want to convert to ISO file, does anyone know how to do it and did it once? using kubuntu 11.04
[21:19] <html> _Neytiri_,  whatever u did go back to the first time before the update
[21:20] <ManDay> In which CONFIGFILE do I specify the locale with which the system initializs?
[21:21] <urlin2u> GaRRu, https://encrypted.google.com/search?sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&site=&source=hp&q=vmdk+to+iso&btnG=Search&gbv=1&sei=F_zwTreWEZDKiAKosoWyDg  take a look
[21:21] <alishah> hi, how can i test and install my USB webcam?
[21:22] <sunboy2> Hi. Does anyone know how I can make a script to output text to the focussed window?
[21:22] <xangua> alishah: with cheese
[21:22] <_calum> I can move Link but the movement is slower than on the n64 console. Something is wrong with my axis values. I have tried calibrating it but it seems to still do the same
[21:22] <xangua> !info cheese | alishah
[21:22] <mustafa> Does anyone have experience with setting up mysql server?
[21:23] <alishah> xangua: thnx
[21:23] <EvilResistance> mustafa:  some, whatcha need
[21:23] <oCean> mustafa: just ask your real question. Also, there's the #ubuntu-server channel, might offer a little bit more specific help
[21:24] <_Neytiri_> i am having a MAJOR issue with booting my system, i was updatiung it when it frose up on me, and now when i try to boot it, i get this message:    [1.031492] Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on uknown-block(0,0) cona someone help me
[21:24] <_Neytiri_> can*
, so here is the idea, I tried it... I tried converting it with qemp, the problem is I could not install tklpatch thing, now I am trying to mount the image throw the VB to the system
[21:25] <ZombieRamen> Could someone please help me with my X.org problem?
[21:25] <EvilResistance> ZombieRamen:  you need to actually ask a question to get help
[21:25] <alishah> is there any tool to adjust colors of my monitor? am running nvidia geforce 210 card.
[21:25] <EvilResistance> !ask | ZombieRamen
[21:25] <ZombieRamen> EvilResistance: i did ask a question
[21:25] <jutnux> No you didn't.
[21:25] <EvilResistance> ZombieRamen:  you didnt ask a question about your problem
[21:25] <mustafa> EvilResistance: oCean When I try to open a PHP project which connects to mysql database, I get an that error "The site database appears to be down". But when I tried it on windows machine running xamp it worked perfectly. Any ideas?
[21:25] <urlin2u> GaRRu, I have no idea how I just glanced at google to see if there were any hits, seemed to be a few, so in lite of getting no answers here I gave you the link.
[21:26] <ZombieRamen> jutnux: yes, i did, just a few minutes ago
[21:26] <ZombieRamen> jutnux: i asked it multiple times, actually
[21:26] <EvilResistance> mustafa:  did you set up mysql to listen on an internet-facing area?
[21:26] <EvilResistance> <ZombieRamen> Could someone please help me with my X.org problem?  <--- THIS IS NOT A QUESTION ABOUT YOUR ISSUE
[21:26] <EvilResistance> whoops caps
[21:26] <jutnux> No you didn't. Could somebody help me with my Xorg.problem isn't particularly asking a specific question.
[21:26] <EvilResistance> this is you asking for someone who can help, not asking about the specific problem
[21:27] <ZombieRamen> EvilResistance: that's not the question i'm talking about
[21:27] <EvilResistance> ZombieRamen:  that's the only one i see in the past 30 minutes
[21:27] <oCean> EvilResistance: Several minutes before that he asked the question
[21:27] <GaRRu> Anyway at least to read the files inside a vmdk file?
[21:27] <EvilResistance> oCean:  didnt see it, hence the confusion
[21:27] <EvilResistance> (case in point: just connected to the ZNC)
[21:27] <mustafa> EvilResistance: I don't how. Can you explain more?
[21:27] <oCean> Let's not get into an argument about whether the question is OK or "NOT"
[21:28] <ManDay> In which CONFIGFILE do I specify the locale with which the system initializs?
[21:28] <_Neytiri_> sudo su -
[21:28] <guntbert> _Neytiri_: no
[21:28] <ZombieRamen> regardless, my problem is thus: i uninstalled nvidia-settings, nvidia-current, and nvidia-#whatever the current version of nvidia's drivers are in 11.04# and this left me unable to startx
[21:28] <guntbert> _Neytiri_: for whom was that?
[21:28] <html> EvilResistance, so what do i need for a full remote backup?
[21:28] <_Neytiri_> wrong window
[21:29] <_Neytiri_> it was ment for my other keybord
[21:29] <urlin2u> GaRRu, I would use remastersys if it runs in kubuntu. http://www.geekconnection.org/remastersys/
[21:29] <GaRRu> it will open the vmdk file to see the files inside?
[21:29] <EvilResistance> mustafa:  you need to edit the mysql config file, my.cnf or w/e it is, and make sure that (a) the line containing skip-networking is either commented out or removed, and (b) the bind-address line has either your IP or your domain name
[21:29] <urlin2u> GaRRu, I assume you want the iso for a regualr install if possible here.
[21:29] <EvilResistance> mustafa:  did you set up xamp on a windows machine?
[21:30] <_calum> Hello guys. I'm having an issue calibrating axis in Mupen64. I calibrated them but when playing Zelda, Link's movement is small and I cannot make him run even when the axis is all the way forward
[21:30] <mustafa> EvilResistance: No, it was already setup. I did change the bind-address to localhost. I'll check the skip-networking now.
[21:30] <ZombieRamen> I removed quiet splash from grub and replaced it with nomodeset, and that lets me get to commandline, but i still cannot startx due to "nvidia" still being in xorg.conf
[21:31] <GaRRu> I really need 1 file for the vmdk file, and just to know how to convert it to ISO file for later use in windows like systems
[21:31] <trism> ManDay: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale
[21:31] <ZombieRamen> i'm running on onboard intel graphics, and i'm not sure what i need to substitute "nvidia" with in xorg.conf
[21:32] <urlin2u> GaRRu, is it virtualbox
[21:32] <killown>  I am having an issue with gnome-shell in a fresh ubuntu 11.10 install, it doesn't show de top panel and the buttons of title bar, can anyone help me?
[21:32] <jutnux> free -m
[21:32] <alishah> did the girl who dropped out of college cuz of ubuntu ever came here for support?
[21:32] <_calum> huh?
[21:32] <jutnux> Damnit, stupid irssi looking like terminal
[21:33] <_calum> lol what?
[21:33] <html> alishah,  lol  , i wonder
[21:33] <_calum> alishah:Is that story for real?
[21:34] <alishah> yes i saw a new story
[21:34] <alishah> news*
[21:34] <_calum> lol
[21:34] <oCean> _calum, alishah let's move back on topic, ok?
[21:34] <_calum> ok sorry
[21:34] <ZombieRamen> Can someone help me with my previously described x.org problem?
[21:35] <guntbert> !repeat | ZombieRamen
[21:35] <GaRRu> urlin2u Yes
[21:36] <ZombieRamen> problem is, i can't exactly search ubuntuforums and askubuntu from lynx that easily
[21:36] <cpppp> i have downloaded vdi ubuntu  what is the command to start it ?
[21:36] <cpppp> i mean it show the  konsole
[21:36] <Jonii_> A question, if linux works worse than an os i can get for free, but that is not-libre, what should one do and consider? Also, feel free to redirect to a place where this question is more on-topic, i couldn't find any
[21:37] <BluesKaj> ZombieRamen, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[21:38] <html> how do i do a remote backup?
[21:40] <guntbert> html: I use rsync
[21:40] <html> whats that ?
[21:40] <yumbo> html: rsync over ssh here
[21:40] <ZombieRamen> BluesKaj: I ran that command, but when I run startx I still get the same error about being unable to load the module "nvidia" - do I need to restart?
[21:40] <ok_wait> join #logkeys
[21:40] <skegeek> I've a huge error window coming up when I enter Gnome, it says "Could not apply the stored configuration for monitors" then "could not assign CRTCs to outputs", then lists a ton of resolutions.
[21:40] <yumbo> ZombieRamen, check you /etc/X11/xorg.conf file for any line saying nvidia
[21:40] <ok_wait> :/
[21:40] <BluesKaj> ZombieRamen, yes
[21:40] <Diablo84> Hi.
[21:41] <yumbo> ZombieRamen, oh, restart first ofcourse
[21:41] <html> yumbo,   huh ? wow  mmm aaa,,, not sure what that is
[21:41] <Diablo84> I am on Ubuntu 11.10, I compiled my owdeetz@ubuntu:~/Desktop/Temp$ scrot
[21:41] <Diablo84> deetz@ubuntu:~/Desktop/Temp$ cd /lib/modules/
[21:41] <Diablo84> deetz@ubuntu:/lib/modules$ ls
[21:41] <Diablo84> 3.0.0-12-generic  3.0.0-12-generic.bak  3.1.5
[21:41] <Diablo84> deetz@ubuntu:/lib/modules$ cd 3.1.5/
[21:41] <FloodBot1> Diablo84: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:41] <Diablo84> deetz@ubuntu:/lib/modules/3.1.5$ ls
[21:41] <skegeek> I get the error everytime I boot up, and desktop completely freezes during idle as well.
[21:41] <yumbo> html, rsync is a program that can copy a directory structure to another location (with only copying new/edited files)
[21:42] <jutnux> tmux <33333333333333
[21:42] <st3n> ZombieRamen: you removed nvidia driver ? shouldn't you replace "nvidia"  by "default" (or similar) in xorg.conf ?
[21:42] <yumbo> html, ssh is something like ftp, but more advanced and secure
[21:42] <BluesKaj>  ZombieRamen if you changed video cards then make sure you reset the default card in the bios
[21:42] <tekoholic> Does anybody know of a working AutoAP script, such as that which is available for DD-WRT, that will operate the same way on an Ubuntu Box?
[21:42] <html> guntbert,  mmm is it ok for me to have a ubuntu  and the pc id wni7 ?
[21:42] <Diablo84> I am on Ubuntu 11.10, I compiled my own kernel image and put it in /boot. upgrade-grub doesn't detec it. Why?
[21:42] <_calum> I thought ssh was a remote login protocol, not file transfer?
[21:42] <ZombieRamen> 1~st3n: i'll try that after i reboot, thanks
[21:42] <yumbo> _calum, it does both
[21:42] <_calum> oh
[21:43] <dagerik> _calum: scp uses ssh for file transfer
[21:43] <skegeek> What's a CRTC anyway?
[21:43] <_calum> scp is like ftps:\\?
[21:43] <dagerik> _calum: yes
[21:43] <_calum> k
[21:43] <lumio> hello… there seems to be a bug in ubuntu 11.10 with unity: when I press the super-key aka win-key when the screen is locket, the unity interface appears. I won't be able to click anything, but I can see what apps are open and of course the unity menu
[21:43] <Diablo84> So how can I get upgrade-grub to detect my compiled kernel image in /boot?
[21:44] <ok_wait> i can understand requiring root to kill logkeys but starting it? i want logkeys to run at startup
[21:44] <wethermaker> Is iamben not a little poor humorless asshole?
[21:44] <BluesKaj> skegeek, it's the Canadian agency similar to the FCC in the US
[21:44] <jutnux> !language | wethermaker
[21:44] <skegeek> What's it have to do with screens and resolutions?????
[21:45] <BluesKaj> no idea
[21:45] <st3n> Diabolo84: see grub-install cmd
[21:45] <pippo> ciao
[21:48] <Diablo84> st3n: It still doesn't read my kernel image.
[21:49] <skegeek> How about this: is there a way to revert screen/display settings back to their values at installation?
[21:49] <html> yumbo,   so what do i do?
[21:49] <jutnux> skegeek: You should've made a backup of /etc/X11/xorg.conf before you made any changes.
[21:50] <skegeek> I sent a couple of commands to xrandr, I figured it would have kept backups automatically.
[21:50] <chmod_711> anyone know how to prevent a gtk2 ComboBox from being bigger than the screen (because the text inside it is too long)?
[21:51] <skegeek> Maybe you can help with "could not assign CRTCs to outputs"?
[21:52] <neglesaks> ?question, anyone got a link for a good guide on hwo to make multi-monitor setups work in 11.10 ?
[21:52] <usuario_> jorge
[21:52] <usuario_> ke
[21:52] <Diablo84> OK, what is the equivalent for /etc/grub.conf in 11.10?
[21:52] <usuario_> puto tobi
[21:52] <st3n> Diabolo84: in the previous grub version, there was a menu.lst file. But I can't find it anymore (I'm ubuntu 11.10 too)
[21:53] <ok_wait> could someone help me with logkeys please. the scripts /bin/llk and /bin/llkk don't exist and they don't point to /etc/logkeys-start.sh and /etc/logkeys-kill.sh like the documentation says it does. logkeys still requires root to start and i need it to automatically start with ubuntu
[21:53] <yabai_> 日本人いる？
[21:53] <yumbo> html, search the web for a "rsync ubuntu tutorial", do a "man rsync"
[21:53] <Diablo84> st3n: So how does 11.10 manage grub?
[21:54] <st3n> Diabolo84: sorry, have no idea. first time I see this
[21:54] <yumbo> html, the command "man rsync" displays the man-page for rsync (most programs have an extenden wiki-like entry that can be accessed by doing "man program"
[21:55] <st3n> Diabolo84: I'm still using lilo on my debian :)
[21:55] <ZombieRamen> i changed nvidia in xorg.conf to default, but now startx complains about there being no module "default"
[21:55] <yumbo> ZombieRamen, running Intel graphics from opensource drivers?
[21:55] <ZombieRamen> yumbo: that's what i like to do
[21:56] <ZombieRamen> yumbo: *would like to do
[21:56] <cpppp> thats what i got when i run my vbox ubuntu  bin/sh cant access tty: job control turned off
[21:56] <yumbo> do "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup"
[21:56] <yumbo> then restart
[21:56] <skegeek> What does "could not assign CRTCs to outputs" actually mean??
[21:56] <Dutchet> Hello.
[21:57] <Dutchet> I am looking for someone who can explain me something about ban-jumping
[21:57] <Dutchet> or how to do so
[21:57] <ZombieRamen> yumbo: xorg.backup.conf only has one section in it, so i'm not sure if that would work
[21:57] <Barco> I have a weird 3G problem, My adsl is down unexpectantly. Was able to connect via 3g some months ago. Now it seems although it connects dns does not resolve i.e. no internet available on the browser. Can anyone point me in the right direction please?
[21:58] <yumbo> ZombieRamen, you dont need a xorg.conf if youre using open drivers on Intel
[21:58] <yumbo> that command just moves it to another places
[21:58] <cpppp> thats what i got when i run my vbox ubuntu  bin/sh cant access tty: job control turned off!!!
[21:58] <yumbo> place*
[21:58] <nimbiotics> Hello all. Does software sycnh work unatended or do I have to select each of the items to be installed? TIA!
[21:58] <ZombieRamen> yumbo: not even for hardware other than my (deceased) graphics card?
[21:59] <developer> hello, i'm going to install ubuntu11.10 from scratch. is there a way to directly install latest packages without needing to make an update immediately at the first boot? thank you for your attention
[21:59] <yumbo> ZombieRamen, you just said youre using integrated intel graphics
[21:59] <Flannel> developer: Use the Alternate CD (and be connected to the internet during install) or minimal CD.
[22:00] <ZombieRamen> yubmo: yes, i am, my old graphics card died, and is no longer in my system
[22:00] <xangua> developer: i believe oneiric updates while you install it
[22:00] <Flannel> developer: minimal CD may be your best bet in terms of bandwidth, you won't have to download all the packages in the ISO, only to download updated ones during install.
[22:00] <yumbo> ZombieRamen, what do you mean then?
[22:00] <ZombieRamen> yumbo: i was just clarifying that the only piece of hardware that requires xorg.conf would be my old graphics card, which is no longer in my computer
[22:01] <yumbo> ZombieRamen, oh, yes, probably thats correct
[22:01] <yumbo> although Im not sure for the opensource ATI/Nvidia drivers
[22:01] <ZombieRamen> yumbo: so then could i just delete my current xorg.conf, since i'm on intel graphics?
[22:02] <developer> Flannel,xangua: thank you very much. i'll try minimal ISO. are you sure i won't need to download some huge updates at the first boot?
[22:02] <_calum> oh I almost forgot what I was here for. I'm having the same issue - in Mupen64 Link won't move properly even though I tried to calibrate the axis.
[22:02] <Flannel> developer: Minimal CD downloads all of the packages from the repositories during install, so yes, you won't need to update them at first boot.
[22:03] <inashdeen> hi, i am running pygtk here, i would love to know how to run bash script from it. thanks in advance
[22:04] <Pici> inashdeen: #python would be more appropriate for your question
[22:04] <developer> Flannel,xangua: thank you again.
[22:06] <nimbiotics> Hello all. Does software synch work unattended or do I have to select each of the items to be installed? TIA!
[22:09] <ManDay> In which CONFIGFILE do I specify the locale with which the system initializs?
[22:09] <html> yumbo,   so what do i do? rsync  with this?
[22:09] <timido> ManDay: /etc/locale.alias
[22:09] <matanya> hello, trying to add flash player to tor bundle 64 but, any idea how except copying iy from my real browser?
[22:09] <matanya> *bit
[22:10] <timido> ManDay: there you have all the ISO install with ubuntu
[22:10] <skegeek> I added 1280x1024 res two days ago, restarted my machine and it reverted to 1024x768 and also now I keep getting an error saying "could not assign CRTCs to outputs". Any ideas?
[22:11] <timido> matanya: use either flashplugin-player or gnuplash or minitube
[22:11] <timido> sorry it was gnash*
[22:11] <ZombieRamen> yumbo: you, sir, get an internet - you've solved my problem completely
[22:11] <matanya> and just opy them?
[22:11] <matanya> *copy
[22:11] <timido> matanya: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[22:11] <yumbo> ZombieRamen, np :)
[22:12] <timido> choose your poison from there matanya
[22:12] <iToast> beep
[22:12] <iToast> 5 days til christmas.
[22:12] <matanya> I don't want to change locales
[22:12] <timido> matanya: and what do you want to do?
[22:13] <matanya> use a flash player on this portable firefox
[22:13] <timido> matanya: if you're behind amd64 use gnash-tools
[22:13] <timido> or try apt-cache search flash plugin
[22:13] <timido> you'll see there all the aps for flash
[22:13] <xangua> matanya: use flash player on tor bundle browser¿¿ doesn't make sense
[22:14] <matanya> I know, it is for testing issue
[22:14] <matanya> timido: I don't want to install, I want it portable
[22:15] <timido> hmmmmmmm
[22:15] <skegeek> I guess my error is really rare and no one has a clue.
[22:15] <timido> skegeek: what type of error is it?
[22:16] <matanya> screen error are out of scope for mr
[22:16] <matanya> *e
[22:16] <skegeek> EVery time I enter the desktop I get a window saying "could not assign CRTCs to outputs".
[22:16] <oCean> !afk > mang0
[22:16] <Escherial> hey, has anyone run into that issue where open/save dialogs are generally displayed as larger than the screen?
[22:16] <Escherial> i'm using 11.10, by the way. i've seen people report the bug, but there hasn't been any kind of response as far as i can tell.
[22:17] <mang0> oCean: Sorry :S the thing is, I'm a member of some channels where they say the OPPOSITE of that; i.e you should change your nick to show people you are away....so what do I do?!
[22:17] <Escherial> it's not crippling, but it's annoying to have to move/resize the window every time it shows up
[22:17] <timido> Escherial: are you a coder your self?
[22:17] <timido> Escherial: or have you filled a bug report?
[22:17] <oCean> mang0: well, not change the nick here. If all >1500 users were about to do that, it would be a mess
[22:18] <timido> mang0: ignore those freaks ;)
[22:18] <mang0> oCean: I mean other channels on freenode, and afaik I can't change my nick for certain channels
[22:18] <mang0> timido: Hehe :P
[22:19] <mustafa> Could someone please give me little of his time, to try to fix a problem with mysql I have on my local pc. I have to deliver project tomm. and till now everyone who tends to help leave me in the middle with no complete solution.
[22:19] <timido> mang0: is because either your nick is not 100 % register. or you'r simply just ban from the channel
[22:20] <mang0> timido: Sorry, I don't follow? I'm registered....
[22:20] <timido> mang0: what error message do you get in other channels?
[22:20] <oCean> mang0: I don't see where this discussion is going. Just be sure whe, in this channel use a silent /away message. Try to keep your nick changes, while you are in this channel to a minimum
[22:21] <oCean> *when
[22:21] <mang0> timido: No error message. What I mean is that people get huffy if you don't answer to higlights/pings, and you have only gone /away and not changed your nick to make it obvious you are afk.
[22:21] <mang0> oCean: Okay, I will try :)
[22:21] <oCean> mang0: thanks
[22:22] <wrektjet> does f-spot not work if my computer is running in low graphics mode
[22:22] <Escherial> timido: i'm a computer scientist, but i've never really worked on an open-source project outside of my own
[22:22] <mustafa_> how can i connect to ubuntu kernel channel?
[22:22] <Escherial> timido: and no, i haven't filed a bug report; i just noticed the behavior and found it annoying
[22:22] <timido> Escherial: Escherial report it
[22:22] <arrrghhh_> hey all.  i have a hardware issue, is there a better room to ask?  basically my desktop refuses to power on.  nothing happens when you hit the power button, but there is a green light on the mobo so it's getting power.  i wonder if the power button on the case is bad...
[22:22] <timido> Escherial: with ubuntu-bug
[22:23] <timido> that will help developers like us
[22:23] <timido> or helpers
[22:23] <skegeek> This is why I stopped using Ubuntu, kept having errors and finding no answers.
[22:23] <Escherial> timido: sounds good; i wonder if it's a display bug or if it's "other"
[22:23] <dagerik> skegeek: What do you use?
[22:23] <skegeek> I have Ubuntu 11.10
[22:24] <Mr-Zhi> Sorry about that
[22:24] <arrrghhh_> skegeek: so you stopped using it but you still use it...?
[22:24] <dagerik> skegeek: You said you stopped using ubuntu
[22:24] <skegeek> I was using Windows before I installed it again.
[22:24] <timido> Escherial: it will display the error of the app
[22:25] <timido> and will warn the developers of the app
[22:25] <timido> Escherial: have you try launchpad ?
[22:25] <Pici> !nickspam ? MrZhi
[22:25] <MrZhi> Pici, trying to remember my alternate nicks
[22:25] <MrZhi> No trying to be an ass
[22:26] <timido> lol
[22:26] <Pici> MrZhi: And neither am I, but it is creating excess noise.  (try /msg nickserv info or /msg nickserv listownmail)
[22:28] <iToast> wtf
[22:28] <iToast> O.o
[22:28] <oCean> iToast: that's also not welcome here
[22:28] <killown> I am having an issue with gnome-shell in a fresh ubuntu 11.10 install http://bpaste.net/show/21095/ how can it have this kind of error, if its a new system installation?
[22:30] <gaussblurinc> hello! guys! please, help! after upgrade linux don't want to load and write: '/tmp not found or installed'
[22:31] <larstr> using XFCE, how can I copy text from a putty session and paste into a document? the text doesnt show up in clipboard like it did in gnome
[22:31] <iToast> test
[22:31] <iToast> Ok
[22:31] <timido> gaussblurinc: add your self to the root account
[22:31] <iToast> My client is working right.
[22:31] <gaussblurinc> timido: how to do this?
[22:32] <anteaya> I am trying to get a mobile broadband connection recognized by my Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx OS. I am using a ZTE MF636 USB modem. I have wvdial creating a working connection. I can't get Network Manager to recognized the connection. How can I get Network Manager to recognize the existing connection, please?
[22:32] <iToast> I cant end to @@linux or @@archinux
[22:32] <timido> gaussblurinc: adduser username sudo
[22:32] <arrrghhh_> larstr: middle click or shift+insert
[22:32] <iToast> I've been curios about this for a while now.
[22:32] <iToast> My ubuntu server is headless but has a built in speaker.
[22:33] <timido> killown: are you using the portugeese iso language?
[22:33] <iToast> Could i take advantage of that using python to make a sound when i get a message somewere?
[22:33] <killown> this bug was not fixed yet https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/844937/comments/12 ?
[22:33] <timido> iToast: if you know how to use it yeah ;)
[22:33] <iToast> How?!
[22:33] <killown> timido  its a new ubuntu install, nothing was changed, don't know what its using
[22:34] <larstr> arrrghhh_: I've already tried that
[22:34] <Geroz> hi all ....
[22:34] <killown> I just did apt-get install gnome-shell
[22:34] <timido> killown: try an english ISO
[22:34] <killown> And so I get this annoying error
[22:34] <larstr> arrrghhh_: doesnt seem to go into clipboard from putty
[22:34] <timido> killown: try sudo apt-get install gnome better
[22:34] <timido> ;)
[22:34] <arrrghhh_> larstr: i guess i don't get it - are you having trouble copying or pasting?
[22:34] <killown> timido, Help me change de iso?
[22:34] <larstr> arrrghhh_: copying
[22:34] <arrrghhh_> larstr: from putty you have to highlight and right click i believe.
[22:34] <timido> killown: yeah try sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales and see if another iso. comes up?
[22:35] <larstr> arrrghhh_: right click is paste, marking text shold automatically copy
[22:35] <arrrghhh_> larstr: wait putty is windows software. i'm lost.
[22:35] <larstr> arrrghhh_: putty is also in linux
[22:35] <timido> larstr: huh?
[22:36] <inashdeen> hi, i know this is not the right place really. but i just need a help though. how do you actually call gnome-system-monitor from a python script?
[22:36] <Geroz> Its possible set special user home direction to one user ? I mean set in ftp ...proftpd   ?
[22:36] <arrrghhh_> larstr: wth?  why wouldn't you just use xterm or something like that?
[22:36] <killown> timido, http://bpaste.net/show/21096/
[22:36] <larstr> arrrghhh_: putty has more functionality
[22:36] <arrrghhh_> larstr: like not being able to copy?
[22:37] <timido> killown:  there you have it ;)  pt_BR.UTF-8... up-to-date
[22:37] <semitones-tail> larstr: have you ever used pagent as part of putty? I can tell that it exists but I don't really know what it does. (also this is kind of offtopic so I probably shouldn't ask it)
[22:37] <larstr> arrrghhh_: I've just installed 11.10 with xfce. I've used it with gnome for years without problems
[22:37] <timido> that iso is having some issues with the translations. iso killown
[22:37] <cyber_> I have Ubuntu installed on a DELL OPTIPLEX 960 if i take the hard drive out and put it in a Optiplex 755 will the OS boot or go tits up like Windows because of drivers?
[22:37] <timido> so use the default. en_US.UTF-8
[22:37] <killown> timido, I would get ride of this iso?
[22:38] <Geroz> Someone know how configuration proftpd ? pls
[22:38] <arrrghhh_> larstr: *shrug*.  sorry, i've never had problems copying.  plus, this room really doesn't deal with XFCE.  #xubuntu.
[22:38] <timido> killown: not unless you are working with it. and also try to report, the bugs to the ubuntu-br team
[22:38] <larstr> semitones-tail: haven't used it, but thanks for the suggestion
[22:38] <timido> let them know about your bug killown
[22:38] <killown> I know that developers is having a lot problem with unicode programming
[22:38] <arrrghhh_> Geroz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ProFTPD
[22:38] <timido> killown: now days, they don't even check the .po files
[22:39] <Geroz> arrrghhh_ ok thx for link
[22:39] <killown> timido, this bugs doesnt happen with ubuntu 64bits
[22:40] <yuqi> list
[22:40] <yuqi> ia,sd
[22:40] <limac> hi i am using ubuntu as my main OS, but for kernel coding/practicing purposes need a temporary linux OS...what distro would you guys recommend...a minimal one...preferably debian based.
[22:40] <timido> killown: then it should be and error with the i386
[22:40] <arrrghhh_> limac: ....debian?  lol
[22:41] <limac> debian is too big to download
[22:41] <Geroz> arrrghhh_ I need more specific . Need set home dir for one user .....All another user have normal home dir ...but for one I need special home dir
[22:41] <arrrghhh_> limac: then get puppy linux.  this is OT tho.
[22:41] <timido> lol
[22:41] <timido> for that get freaking arch linux
[22:41] <timido> pacman rulz
[22:41] <timido> ;P
[22:41] <limac> ok. sorry for the OT question.
[22:41] <limac> thank you
[22:41] <arrrghhh_> Geroz: uh... ok?  so what.
[22:42] <html> #archlinux
[22:42] <timido> html: are you lost?
[22:42] <timido> xd
[22:43] <Geroz> arrrghhh_ I cannot find it in proftpd user guide :(
[22:43] <timido> Geroz: look in google
[22:43] <arrrghhh_> Geroz: based on what you've described, that has nothing to do with proftpd.
[22:43] <timido> there its a lot of tutorials in terms of proftpd
[22:43] <oCean> timido: please don't refer to google
[22:43] <mastermaker> slaves
[22:43] <arrrghhh_> Geroz: but yea either stop being vague or google yourself.  we can help, just ask a more specific question.
[22:43] <timido> oCean: alright
[22:43] <anteaya> Is there a better channel to ask for assistance with getting Network Manager to recognize the wvdial connection that is running from my Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx and my ZTE MF636 usb modem?
[22:44] <quietone> I receive notifications for a page at wiki.ubuntu.com which I am no longer subscribed to. How do I stop it? Where else can I get help with this?
[22:44] <arrrghhh_> anteaya: i'd say this is the best one.. but unfortunately your situation is pretty unique, so i don't think you've gotten a response because no one has experience with what you're doing.
[22:44] <timido> quietone:  go back to launchpad and re subscribe
[22:44] <timido> ;)
[22:45] <mastermaker> slaves
[22:45] <arrrghhh_> mastermaker: please ask a question or leave.
[22:45] <quietone> timido, thanks you. I have already tried that
[22:45] <anteaya> arrrghhh_, understood, thank you. I will continue to lurk while I search for an answer.
[22:45] <oCean> mastermaker: do you have a ubuntu support question?
[22:45] <mastermaker> slaves
[22:45] <timido> quietone:  that's all i can tell you for now ;)
[22:45] <arrrghhh_> anteaya: repoll the room every 10 mins or so.  start out general, and when someone bites get more specific ;)
[22:46] <pioneer_for> sur ubuntu-fr il veule pas m aider
[22:46] <timido> launchpad sure it's nice <3
[22:46] <timido> pioneer_for: #ubuntu-fr
[22:46] <zaxonspox> hello, does sbdy know how to add PERL extension to PHP?
[22:46] <timido> !ubuntu-fr
[22:47] <anteaya> arrrghhh_, yes, the fine line between repolling and spamming. I will try to find the balance. Thanks. Or I may soon call it a day and continue banging my head against the wall tomorrow.
[22:47] <inashdeen> how do i call for example "gnome-system-monitor" in python? i asked #python but they asked me to read programmin ~sad~. i just want to run it from pygtk. it is pretty easy on bash. just run gnome-system-monitor and so it runs
[22:48] <tag> Okay, so I am running pekwm instead of unity, and none of my applications have menus.
[22:49] <arrrghhh_> anteaya: lol i hear ya.  i might be able to try and stumble thru with you in a few.. trying to sort out my own issues
[22:49] <tag> the menu bar at the top...zink, gone.
[22:49] <tag> how do I fix this ?
[22:49] <tag> heh
[22:49] <timido> tag: ubuntu 11.02?
[22:49] <tag> 11.10
[22:49] <timido> yeah that's what i meant ;)
[22:49] <tag> It'd be very useful to be able to, you know, click save.
[22:49] <arvut> zaxonspox: ask in ##php or ##perl?
[22:49] <anteaya> arrrghhh_, found my solution, I was running wvdial in a terminal, which I had done prior to rebooting when I was setting up my modem. I had to close the connection running in the terminal for Network Manager to have a chance to create its own connection.
[22:50] <trism> inashdeen: use subprocess, http://docs.python.org/library/subprocess.html has several examples
[22:50] <arrrghhh_> anteaya: nice!  have fun.
[22:50] <anteaya> arrrghhh_, what are you dealing with?
[22:50] <Martin_> Hi guys, I have a problem with crons
[22:50] <tag> timido: yes, is there any solution here?
[22:50] <Martin_> it seems my system is using upstart -- should crons still work?
[22:50] <inashdeen> trism : i was reading that by fact, but thanks
[22:50] <arrrghhh_> anteaya: hardware issue.  got the multimeter out now... desktop refuses to power up.
[22:50] <pioneer_for> jai leur demonder de me aider mai pas pour me doner des leson de morale ci il reste come je vai detester ubuntu et je le suprime de mon pc
[22:50] <Martin_> martin@spooshi:/var/www$ ls -lut /etc/init.d/cron
[22:50] <Martin_> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 2011-11-11 18:14 /etc/init.d/cron -> /lib/init/upstart-job
[22:50] <Geroz> arrrghhh_ I try it  ....a have proftpd in my server. And all users have the same home dir when connected by ftp. But i have one special user ...and I need set special ftp home dir for him. It is possible set it in proFtpd conf? I cannot google it. And sorry for my English.
[22:51] <zaxonspox> arvut, do you thing the "/usr/lib/xchat/plugins/perl.so" will be the same "perl.so" that is needed by PHP?
[22:51] <killown> Hi timido
[22:51] <killown> Thank you
[22:51] <killown> Changing the locale fixed
[22:51] <PeoplesAdvocate> Okay just came from Kubuntu channel but seems to not be kicking at the moment. Pretty quiet right now. The Question I had posted there and maybe someone can help me out is:  I wanted to download Kubuntu but was wondering if I could get KDE 4.7.4 installed quickly with binary packages. Came here http://kde.org/info/4.7.4.php and clicked the Kubuntu link at the bottom but says it is using 4.7.3
[22:51] <PeoplesAdvocate> which is it?
[22:51] <arrrghhh_> Geroz: i don't folllow.  you have a different /home for this user?
[22:53] <tag> seriously, how do I restore the menubar in gtk applications when I'm not using unity?
[22:53] <Star_Light> how to create a web site?
[22:53] <tag> This is a fairly annoying problem.
[22:53] <Star_Light> I need some plan
[22:53] <Star_Light> I am irrelevant
[22:54] <TheEvilPhoenix> tag:  there's a package you can remove to unfuse the menubars with the "header" of unity
[22:54] <TheEvilPhoenix> i forget which one it is.. give me a second
[22:54] <timido> Star_Light: install apache2 and you're good ;)
[22:54] <Geroz> arrrghhh_ I mean ftp home dir, not normal home dir ... normal home dir is /home/<user> but ftp dir is /var/www .... for all ftp user
[22:55] <Star_Light> timido I have apache2 server
[22:55] <xangua> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[22:55] <Star_Light> installed in my system
[22:55] <timido> Star_Light: if you want to create a site you're self look under this dir /var/www
[22:55] <xangua> TheEvilPhoenix: tag it says on the webupdo oneiric post, above
[22:55] <Star_Light> timido yes I know... this area of file system is for php scripts
[22:55] <MonkeyDust> Star_Light  if you need a plan, start by making a drawing and making lists
[22:56] <timido> Star_Light: do you have install php5-cgi libapache2-mod-php5filter
[22:56] <arrrghhh_> Geroz: all but one?  perhaps you should start over, and actually explain what you're trying to achieve.  please be detailed.
[22:56] <Star_Light> MonkeyDust,  ok just a minute... I don't know good PHP and SQL..... Is there something ready ?
[22:56] <Star_Light> yes
[22:56] <Star_Light> I did.
[22:57] <timido> create a small php
[22:57] <timido> to see if you're php is active
[22:57] <AaronCampbell> Does anyone know how to import video from a camcorder using firewire?
[22:57] <MonkeyDust> Star_Light  if you have the plan, start using the codes you know
[22:57] <PeoplesAdvocate> Star_Light: If you would like to make a website and focus on content you can use Drupal. You can get up and running fairly easy.
[22:57] <Geroz> arrrghhh_  never mind ...thx fot time ;)
[22:57] <AaronCampbell> I installed kino and I can control the camera (rewind, play, etc) but when I try to capture it does the following:
[22:57] <arrrghhh_> lol ok
[22:57] <Star_Light> timido I will activate the apache service in my system... but is running local
[22:57] <Star_Light> 127.0.0.1
[22:58] <Star_Light> ;)
[22:58] <FloodBot1> Star_Light: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:58] <Star_Light> ok sorry.
[22:58] <timido> that's fine ;)
[22:58] <AaronCampbell> causes the camera the play, counts down from 10 saying it's waiting for the camera, then when it reaches 0 the camera pauses
[22:58] <Multbrelch> is there a possibility to activate a udev after wake up of a laptop?
[22:58] <timido> Multbrelch: services udev start
[22:58] <timido> *service
[22:59] <Geroz> arrrghhh_ Here is midnight and I going to go sleep ...I try it next day .... thx
[23:00] <Star_Light> and in what platform will be played the packet dropal????
[23:00] <Star_Light> I am sorry I meant drupal*
[23:00] <timido> Star_Light: apt-cache search drupal
[23:00] <timido> you'll see the package drupal there
[23:00] <Multbrelch> timido, service udev start <= is a shell command?
[23:00] <Star_Light> ok
[23:00] <timido> yes Multbrelch
[23:00] <Star_Light> thank you I understand... but..... drupal is a complete web site platform?
[23:01] <timido> yes it is Star_Light
[23:01] <Star_Light> aw
[23:01] <timido> read about drupal on the web ;)
[23:01] <Star_Light> ok
[23:01] <Multbrelch> where shall I put in this such that it is automatically executed after wake up?
[23:01] <Multbrelch> timido, ^
[23:01] <Star_Light> thank you very much....
[23:01] <timido> no problem ;)
[23:01] <Star_Light> and then I must buy a domain?
[23:01] <timido> Multbrelch: sudo service udev start
[23:01] <timido> Star_Light: not really you can use no-ip.org
[23:01] <Multbrelch> aha
[23:02] <timido> or if you want to purchased a domain is up to you
[23:02] <Guest76003> Hi, I am somewhat new to Ubuntu 11.10, I just reinstalled 11.10, while carrying over my old files and everything I do it keeps  saying I can't do it because I am not the owner (which is not true). Is there a way I can prevent this from happening and maybe solve this issue? Please and thanks!
[23:02] <timido> Guest76003: what's the dir?
[23:02] <Star_Light> yes but no-ip.org is free... and free domains isn't dangerous? from delete perspective... :/
[23:02] <timido> root? dir?
[23:02] <Multbrelch> timido, so I just execute ' sudo service udev start' once in a shell and then it is done for all time?
[23:03] <timido> yeah Multbrelch
[23:03] <Multbrelch> !
[23:03] <timido> read about services scripts Multbrelch for protection wise ;)
[23:03] <Multbrelch> thx timido
[23:03] <Multbrelch> k
[23:03] <Guest76003> Im trying to set a theme in the usr/share/themes folder but I cant
[23:03] <roland> hey guys.. i messed up my ubuntu installation and i have to do a reinstall...
[23:03] <timido> so hackers don't play with you're system ;)
[23:03] <timido> roland: shame on you~
[23:03] <timido> lol
[23:03] <roland> but i've got 1.5 tb data in the /media directory... will it be overwritten on a reinstall?
[23:04] <timido> roland: back it up
[23:04] <roland> yeah .. it's a shame
[23:04] <Star_Light> timido Can I use drupal in order to make a commercial web site? Not very big....
[23:04] <Star_Light> but commercial
[23:04] <roland> problem is .. i don't have a disk to make a backup right now
[23:04] <Star_Light> for my little company
[23:04] <timido> Star_Light: yeah
[23:04] <timido> Star_Light: try joomla also ;)
[23:04] <Star_Light> aha because I watched GPL License
[23:04] <timido> is an open source community
[23:04] <Star_Light> saw*
[23:04] <Mikeyn> Hi, does anyone know if you can boot ubuntu live from a usb on an intel based macbook?
[23:05] <Star_Light> ok
[23:05] <timido> Guest76003: please ask in main ;)
[23:05] <Guest76003> Hi, I am somewhat new to Ubuntu 11.10, I just reinstalled 11.10, while carrying over my old files and everything I do it keeps  saying I can't do it because I am not the owner (which is not true). Is there a way I can prevent this from happening and maybe solve this issue? Please and thanks!
[23:05] <benbloom> I seem to have found a bug with flash. can someone help me trace the source?
[23:05] <timido> Guest76003: no need to repeat ;)
[23:05] <timido> benbloom: ubuntu-bug
[23:06] <MonkeyDust> !bug| benbloom
[23:06] <roland> anyone? will the /home and /media folder be overwritten during a ubuntu installation?
[23:06] <arrrghhh_> roland: is it a hdd that's separate from the install hdd?
[23:06] <roland> no
[23:06] <roland> it's one big partition
[23:06] <Guest76003> timido: can you help?
[23:06] <timido> roland: yes
[23:06] <timido> that's why i told you roland back it up just in case.
[23:06] <timido> ;)
[23:06] <benbloom> timido: thing is i'm not sure if it's really an ubuntu bug. the problem only happens with one website.
[23:06] <arrrghhh_> roland: you should back up.  you can reinstall without losing data, but just in case..
[23:06] <Mikeyn> I used universal usb installer to write it to the usb stick, but when i plug it in, and start my macbook and hold down alt/option it only allows me to select "windows"(i don't have windows on here) and it boots up to the "No init found. Try passing init= bootarg" error
[23:06] <timido> benbloom: look it up in launchpad
[23:06] <roland> ok...
[23:06] <roland> damn...
[23:07] <Mikeyn> which I can't resolve unless I can boot into a live cd
[23:07] <timido> brb
[23:07] <arrrghhh_> roland: i can't in good conscious tell anyone to reinstall without backing up essential data first.
[23:07] <Guest76003> Hi, I am somewhat new to Ubuntu 11.10, I just reinstalled 11.10, while carrying over my old files and everything I do it keeps  saying I can't do it because I am not the owner (which is not true). Is there a way I can prevent this from happening and maybe solve this issue? Please and thanks!
[23:07] <arrrghhh_> Guest76003: stop spamming
[23:07] <benbloom> Guest76003: it seems you're having a prob with permissions
[23:07] <html> Mikeyn,  of course in theory , it was known that the cpu was a bit harder for linux to work with it, so the os had to take a fitting
[23:07] <MonkeyDust> roland  rule 1: backup backup backup
[23:08] <Guest76003> benbloom: yes i am. Im trying to find a way to fix it. Any ideaas?
[23:08] <theborger> MonkeyDust: dont forget to backup one more time
[23:08] <roland> ok.. but when you guys now that ubuntu don't overwrite those directories.. it has to be ok
[23:08] <Mikeyn> can anybody walk me through getting my macbook to boot up ubuntu on a usb stick?
[23:08] <benbloom> well, you can change ownership of files using chown
[23:08] <Guest76003> arrrghhh_: not spamming
[23:08] <theborger> Mikeyn: there are alot of articles on google on how to do that
[23:08] <Mikeyn> i'd really like to get my macbook working again it's imperativ
[23:08] <arrrghhh_> !spam | Guest76003
[23:09] <arrrghhh_> yes you do
[23:09] <Mikeyn> I've read my fair share of articles and all of them mention doing it from within OS X, which I no longer have installed
[23:09] <arrrghhh_> ubottu: you silly bot
[23:09] <rhun> hi
[23:09] <kroq-gar78> Hey everyone. I need help in checking if a virus got on my system somehow, whether it be Windows or Ubuntu. Also, tell me if this should be on offtopic. I went into my programming folder (symlinked to Windows folder) and turns out some of my files have become folders. Can anybody help tell me what's going on here? I'll provide more info if needed.
[23:09] <html> Mikeyn,  just do it the way like anyother pc/intel based
[23:09] <Mikeyn> at the moment, all i have available to me is a windows eeepc
[23:09] <Mikeyn> no cd drive
[23:10] <Mikeyn> and it's not booting ubuntu from the usb
[23:10] <Guest76003> arrrghhh_: I'm pretty sure asking for help doesn't qualify as spamming.
[23:10] <benbloom> Guest76003: chown will change owner. you can do chown -R username:username /path/to/directory to change the file
[23:10] <arrrghhh_> Guest76003: no, not normally.  but pasting the same thing every 30 seconds does.
[23:10] <html> Mikeyn,  just do it the way like anyother pc/intel based,, but just first give it a test run on virtualbox
[23:10] <kroq-gar78> I'll be moving my files to my Ubuntu partition in the mean time.
[23:11] <Guest76003> arrrghhh_: I did it 2x (not including original post).
[23:11] <Mikeyn> html, you're not understanding me, I was using ubuntu as my main OS, I updated it, it shit bricks and no longer works and rendered my macbook useless
[23:11] <Guest76003> benbloom: chown?
[23:11] <Mikeyn> I can't launch the OS I was using(ubuntu)
[23:11] <arrrghhh_> Guest76003: i didn't specify how many times you did it did i...
[23:11] <kroq-gar78> Guest76003: change owner
[23:11] <benbloom> Guest76003: check this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions read
[23:11] <Mikeyn> I'd like to get the macbook to start from a live usb stick so I can fix the problem but it's not showing up
[23:12] <html> Guest76003,  its a good rule of thum to wait about 5-30 min to repost
[23:12] <theborger> Mikeyn: why not use a cd?
[23:12] <kroq-gar78> theborger: no usb
[23:12] <kroq-gar78> I mean cd
[23:12] <Mikeyn> because I can't burn a cd from the current computer im on
[23:12] <theborger> Mikeyn: this an air?
[23:12] <Mikeyn> i have a cd
[23:12] <Mikeyn> but
[23:12] <arrrghhh_> theborger: boo
[23:12] <Mikeyn> it has no cd drive
[23:12] <Mikeyn> it's an eeepc
[23:12] <FloodBot1> Mikeyn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:12] <Mikeyn> oops sorry
[23:12] <kroq-gar78> Mikeyn: that's what I meant
[23:12] <kroq-gar78> lol
[23:13] <benbloom> Guest76003: file ownership is one of linux's great strengths, but it's a bit difficult for noobs to understand at first.
[23:13] <Guest76003> benbloom: yea i know.
[23:13] <Mikeyn> so using a CD is out of the question -- only have usb avail and it's a regular white macbook I got in 2010 intel based
[23:13] <theborger> Mikeyn: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20using%20USB%20Stick follow that
[23:13] <html> Mikeyn,  thus is why i said to "try it out" first ,  and what did you do for an installation
[23:13] <Mikeyn> alright
[23:13] <Mikeyn> how am I going to try it out when it won't even boot?
[23:14] <MonkeyDust> Guest76003  file ownership is what makes linux safer than the redmond OS
[23:14] <theborger> Mikeyn: are you holding down Alt? while booting?
[23:14] <Guest76003> MonkeyDust: Or windows ;)
[23:14] <Mikeyn> yes
[23:14] <krisss117> hi i need something like wireshark, but console with filter
[23:14] <MonkeyDust> Guest76003  that's the one
[23:14] <theborger> Mikeyn: well then my quess is the usb stick does not work properly
[23:14] <Mikeyn> it gives me an option for "Windows"
[23:14] <theborger> Mikeyn: maybe try it again?
[23:14] <benbloom> Guest76003: as far as spam is concerned, It is generally considered rude to post your question too often. people will read the scrollback  and get to your question. give it at least a minute or two before repeating
[23:14] <Mikeyn> I just purchased it
[23:15] <Mikeyn> and used universal usb installer to burn ubuntu to it
[23:15] <khaime> hello to all...i am running version 10.10, and I have a  : Intel Corporation PRO/Vireless 2200BG (Calexico2) inside this laptop
[23:15] <theborger> Mikeyn: set the usb stick up again
[23:15] <Mikeyn> any programs recommended?
[23:15] <khaime> and I have read that ipw2200 is a part of the kernel
[23:15] <theborger> Mikeyn: sudo?
[23:15] <khaime> but the laptop that i have ...the wireless and the bluetooth are integrated
[23:15] <theborger> Mikeyn: and dd usually work the best
[23:15] <Mikeyn> lol..
[23:15] <khaime> so i can turn on the bluetooth...but i can not turn on the wireless
[23:16] <khaime> can anyone help ?
[23:16] <Guest76003> benbloom: I apologize for posting my question too frequently. Thank you for your help.
[23:16] <benbloom> Guest76003: in the future, it is helpful to always use the same username between installations even/especially on different computers
[23:16] <html> Mikeyn,  do you have a different computer to do this work on?
[23:17] <Mikeyn> yeah i explained that earlier, im using my girlfriends eeepc which has no cd drive since mine is out of commission
[23:17] <Mikeyn> in order to fix the error "No init found." from my original ubuntu install i must boot from a live usb, which i can't seem to get working
[23:17] <Mikeyn> once i fix this im never patching again
[23:17] <html> khaime,  as you can see it is really really busy so be more wholesome and imformitive with your asking
[23:18] <TiMiDo> Mikeyn, mac?
[23:18] <kroq-gar78> Ok as I said, some of my files have become folders. When I try to delete these folders through command line, it says it doesn't exist; same result through GUI/Nautilus. What's the deal with my computer? Just scanned my python programming directory with Clam, and nothing 'bad' as such showed up.
[23:18] <TiMiDo> kroq-gar78, check for ownership to see if you are in the ownership directory
[23:18] <khaime> html , thanks
[23:19] <kroq-gar78> TiMiDo: ok. It seems like root owns it but all the files are 777. I could delete files perfectly before.
[23:19] <Mikeyn> yeah my mac currently runs ubuntu, which stopped booting once i installed updates, i found a solution to the problem on the forums but it requires me to boot from a live cd, i currently cant burn a cd due to the spare computer im on not having a cd drive so i went out and purchased a usb drive in hopes i can boot ubuntu from that on my macbook and fix this error and recover my files
[23:19] <joc> what is the first release of ubuntu with Python 2.7?
[23:19] <TiMiDo> kroq-gar78, try sudo rm file
[23:19] <shadaloo> hi
[23:19] <shadaloo> how do I change the panel to the bottom
[23:19] <shadaloo> in 11.04
[23:20] <TiMiDo> now if its a directory do it with sudo rm -fr dir
[23:20] <benbloom> so there's no evidence of my bug on LP would anyone be willing to try to replicate on their side?
[23:20] <TiMiDo> shadaloo, depends, are you using gnome?
[23:20] <khaime> I am running ubuntu 10.10 on a hp compaq nc6220 who has a built in intell wireless......i read that the ipw200 driver is a part of the kernel....but for some reason I can not get it to work....on this laptop , the wirelss and the bluetooth are integrated...i can turn on the bluetooth , but i can not turn on the wirelss.....can anyone help ?   thanks in advance !
[23:20] <shadaloo> TiMiDo: whatever default is
[23:20] <TiMiDo> it comes with gnome default
[23:20] <kroq-gar78> TiMiDo: nothing changed. File's still there.
[23:20] <TiMiDo> kroq-gar78, what's the full dir path?
[23:20] <shadaloo> hello. I do not like how ubuntu has changed in 11.04, I want to move my panel to the bottom of the screen
[23:21] <shadaloo> hello. I do not like how ubuntu has changed in 11.04, I want to move my panel to the bottom of the screen (using default install)
[23:21] <wan> sorry, my graphic card is barely working, it can still pass the signal to monitor, but it can't process anything - I can use it on windows when I disable it in the panel - it uses vga.dll then - is it possible to do that on ubuntu ?
[23:21] <joc> any suggestions on TLS amazon ami's?
[23:21] <TiMiDo> shadaloo, sudo apt-get install gnome
[23:21] <benbloom> shadaloo: sounds like your problem is with "unity" i suggest you try logging in with  gnome instead
[23:21] <TiMiDo> yeah.
[23:22] <benbloom> lol TiMiDo
[23:22] <TiMiDo> benbloom, remember gnome does not come install by default it only bring's the demo of how gnome is looking ;)
[23:22]  * joc found this: http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/lucid/release/
[23:22] <html> khaime,  so in oone line say waht you have as hardware and software, os used .. and problem . so there is a good foundation  ... and when you repeat your question there are no "huh?'  or missing di=etails
[23:23] <kroq-gar78> TiMido: ok... the files in the directories are gone, but the folders themselves are still there... Lemme get the path
[23:23] <shadaloo> benbloom: that is an excellent idea
[23:23] <shadaloo> I will try that
[23:23] <benbloom> TiMiDo: I had to switche to KDE after Natty
[23:23] <TiMiDo> kroq-gar78, try sudo rm -fr dir
[23:23] <TiMiDo> I'm using xfce 100 % I'm developing new apps
[23:23] <TiMiDo> and much more.
[23:24] <kroq-gar78> TiMiDo: oh wait, in 2 of the directories, they're gone. One of the folders in my former file is titled "Brolink"... lemme do the stuff you suggested.
[23:24] <benbloom> speaking of KDE. does anyone know where monitor prefs are stored between sessions? doesn't look like it's using xorg.conf
[23:25] <kroq-gar78> TiMiDo: when I run the sudo rm -rf it removes the files IN the directory...
[23:26] <shadaloo> Hi
[23:27] <shadaloo> What is used for winrar?
[23:27] <kroq-gar78> shadaloo: file-roller
[23:27] <shadaloo> winrar-nonfree is no longer found
[23:27] <TiMiDo> use unrar
[23:27] <benbloom> shadaloo: or unrar from the command line
[23:27] <kroq-gar78> shadaloo: if you mean what is used to extract rar's. I believe it's file-roller
[23:27] <kroq-gar78> shadaloo: yes, unrar works too
[23:27] <shadaloo> benbloom: how do I log in with gnome
[23:27] <TiMiDo> lol
[23:27] <TiMiDo> that's a nods questions
[23:27] <TiMiDo> ;>
[23:28] <benbloom> TiMiDo: pointed out that you need to install it
[23:28] <kroq-gar78> he means gnome classic
[23:28] <TiMiDo> benbloom, then install it ,:)
[23:28] <benbloom> sudo apt-get install gnome
[23:28] <kroq-gar78> really
[23:28] <benbloom> in the command line
[23:28] <TiMiDo> yeah benbloom
[23:28] <TiMiDo> ;)
[23:28] <kroq-gar78> its already there...
[23:28] <kroq-gar78> don't troll ;)
[23:28] <TiMiDo> kroq-gar78, only some parts of the gnome system though
[23:28] <goudkov> hi, is there a way to nice the ssh process that serves the connection on the remote end?
[23:29] <benbloom> what about gnome2?
[23:29] <shadaloo> I am not really interested in installing 300MB
[23:29] <TiMiDo> lol
[23:29] <Mikeyn> theborger, those instructions you liked require me to be on os x
[23:29] <shadaloo> how can I move the panel to the bottom
[23:29] <kroq-gar78> benbloom, he's using ubu 11.04, right? already uses gtk2
[23:29] <TiMiDo> benbloom, no such gnome2 any more
[23:29] <shadaloo> makes me nautious up on the top
[23:29] <TiMiDo> benbloom, the project gnome is on there gnome 3 version :)
[23:29] <Mikeyn> i want to make it bootable on my macbook via windows xp on my gfs netbook
[23:30] <tom_de_v> shadaloo, in unity you can't change the location of the panel
[23:30] <Mikeyn> linked me*
[23:30] <TiMiDo> shadaloo,  try xfce is very similar how gnome was configured on the version 2
[23:30] <benbloom> k thanks TiMiDo
[23:30] <shadaloo> tom_de_v: that's retarded
[23:30] <shadaloo> since when in linux can you not change something
[23:30] <kroq-gar78> tom_de_v, not in 11.04, at least. I use 11.10 with unofficial compiz extension and it's on bottom
[23:30] <shadaloo> ahhhh
[23:30] <TiMiDo> you can change it but you need to know on what you're changing;0
[23:30] <kroq-gar78> lol yup
[23:30] <shadaloo> very nice kroq-gar78
[23:31] <shadaloo> are you affiliated with kroq kroq-gar78 ?
[23:31] <tom_de_v> krog-gar78, you're right
[23:31] <kroq-gar78> shadaloo: nope. in KROQ u mean that radio station?
[23:31] <shadaloo> kroq-gar78: yes
[23:31] <shadaloo> whatever
[23:31] <shadaloo> at least I got both facebook suggested and sponsered ads/pages all gone
[23:31] <kroq-gar78> shadaloo: ah, nope. kroq-gar is from tabletop game warhammer.
[23:32] <shadaloo> I feel like it has been a productive day
[23:32] <shadaloo> later
[23:32] <kroq-gar78> byez
[23:32] <TiMiDo> lol good to know
[23:33] <TiMiDo> ;)
[23:33] <kroq-gar78> TiMiDo: so, you have any idea what's the idea with my folder nonsense? u think its safe to copy over to Ubuntu partition?
[23:33] <TiMiDo> kroq-gar78, what's the dir path?
[23:33] <kroq-gar78> TiMiDo: w/ or w/o symlink?
[23:33] <TiMiDo> you never did answer that question
[23:33] <TiMiDo> with symlinks
[23:34] <kroq-gar78> k
[23:34] <kroq-gar78> lol sry forgot :/
[23:34] <TiMiDo> np
[23:34] <TiMiDo> ;0
[23:34] <wan> is there some equivalent of windows vga.dll on ubuntu ? something that would do all basic GPU processing on CPU, so that I can run the system with a faulty graphic card ?
[23:34] <kroq-gar78> TiMiDo: /home/kroq-gar78/prog_old/python/primes/primes.zip/ with symlink
[23:35] <TiMiDo> kroq-gar78, is the primes.zip unzip already?
[23:35] <TiMiDo> to the dir?
[23:35] <kroq-gar78> yup
[23:35] <kroq-gar78> primes.zip is a folder. was a file
[23:35] <TiMiDo> ok when you run the .py it self do you get any errors?
[23:36] <TiMiDo> if you do pastebin the output.
[23:37] <kroq-gar78> TiMiDo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/776927/ so basically it's not a python file anymore
[23:37] <TiMiDo> kroq-gar78, did you got sucked into /dev/null?
[23:37] <TiMiDo> let me check it out
[23:38] <kroq-gar78> TiMiDo: how can that happen?
[23:38] <TiMiDo> kroq-gar78, sudo apt-get install python
[23:38] <kroq-gar78> TiMiDo: it's there. "python is already the newest version."
[23:39] <TiMiDo> what the hell is millerabin?
[23:39] <kroq-gar78> TiMiDo: primality test.
[23:39] <TiMiDo> test miller
[23:39] <kroq-gar78> TiMiDo: doing some stuff with prime numbers
[23:39] <kroq-gar78> ?
[23:39] <TiMiDo> open up python with millerrabin
[23:40] <kroq-gar78> TiMiDo: you mean like "python millerrabin.pyc"?
[23:40] <TiMiDo> to debug the issues
[23:40] <TiMiDo> yeah kroq-gar78
[23:40] <TiMiDo> since you specified as millerabin as you're main module
[23:40] <kroq-gar78> TiMiDo: thing is millerrabin.pyc has become a folder somehow
[23:40] <kroq-gar78> no longer a file
[23:41] <TiMiDo> then rm the folder it self
[23:41] <TiMiDo> and type touch millerrabin.pyc
[23:41] <kroq-gar78> rmdir?
[23:41] <TiMiDo> yeah with rmdir
[23:41] <kroq-gar78> TiMiDo: rmdir: failed to remove `millerrabin.pyc/': No such file or directory
[23:41] <kroq-gar78> ???
[23:41] <TiMiDo> kroq-gar78, where do you have that dir at?
[23:41] <TiMiDo> the full location
[23:42] <kroq-gar78> TiMiDo: w/o symlink: /windows/Users/{I removed the name}/Documents/prog/python/primes/cluster/millerrabin.pyc
[23:42] <TiMiDo> that's why
[23:42] <TiMiDo> ;)
[23:42] <kroq-gar78> ?
[23:43] <kroq-gar78> why?
[23:43] <kroq-gar78> "{I removed the name}" means I just don't want you to know my name ;)
[23:43] <TiMiDo> i guaranteed you that you ain't got access to /windows/Users folder
[23:43] <kroq-gar78> I have all along
[23:43] <kroq-gar78> worked for months
[23:43] <TiMiDo> kroq-gar78, and then where the hell is you're currently working dir.
[23:44] <TiMiDo> I'm lost with you're directories
[23:44] <TiMiDo> ;)
[23:44] <Scriven> Can someone point me to newbie GPS help. Trying to get 2 USB-gps dongles working and have 0 idea what I'm doing with them. They look OK but don't seem to be giving any data.
[23:44] <kroq-gar78> TiMiDo: Yeah I'm not sure why I can't remove it...
[23:44] <TiMiDo> do you have sudo access?
[23:44] <TiMiDo> you're self?
[23:45] <kroq-gar78> TiMiDo: yup. kroq-gar78 is part of group 'admin'. That means that I have sudo access, right?
[23:45] <kroq-gar78> my account is "kroq-gar78"
[23:45] <TiMiDo> no
[23:45] <TiMiDo> you need to add kroq-gar78 to the root group
[23:45] <TiMiDo> not admin
[23:45] <kroq-gar78> oh
[23:45] <TiMiDo> like adduser kroq-gar78 root
[23:45] <TiMiDo> and you're good
[23:46] <kroq-gar78> well the "sudo apt-get ..." stuff works... and "kroq-gar78" is the original account on this machine
[23:46] <TiMiDo>  kroq-gar78 it does not matter
[23:46] <kroq-gar78> TiMiDo: ok then. I'll do the adduser
[23:46] <TiMiDo> you're kroq-gar78 right now only has limited access to you're system i bet
[23:46] <kroq-gar78> ok
[23:46] <TiMiDo> root account is different
[23:46] <kroq-gar78> ok
[23:47] <kroq-gar78> added
[23:47] <TiMiDo> now log out of you're X
[23:47] <TiMiDo> and come back
[23:47] <kroq-gar78> I have never had to do this before though...
[23:47] <kroq-gar78> ok
[23:47] <TiMiDo> and see if it worked ;)
[23:47] <kroq-gar78> brb
[23:47] <TiMiDo> alright ;)
[23:48] <jpmh> I want to set key-bindings so I have control of things like ctrl-alt-T - I knew how to do this with 10.4 - how do I do it with 11.10
[23:49] <enhance> hey - so i have a new laptop that has 10.10 installed on it, by request by a developer friend of mine
[23:49] <TiMiDo> jpmh, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaKeys
[23:49] <enhance> but the laptop runs Intel HD 3000 drivers
[23:49] <TiMiDo> there you have it ;)
[23:49] <enhance> which are apparently not supported in Lucid Lynx, only in Natty?
[23:49] <enhance> http://askubuntu.com/questions/58376/how-do-i-install-the-intel-hd-3000-video-driver-on-ubuntu-10-04
[23:49] <kroq-gar78> TiMiDo: so try this rmdir stuff again, right?
[23:49] <TiMiDo> enhance, upgrade you're system
[23:49] <enhance> TiMiDo: i cannot go to 11.04
[23:49] <TiMiDo> try running you're program again kroq-gar78
[23:49] <karni> I've installed Prey, and I'm supposed to look for it under "System" menu. Unity doesn't help at all, where should I look?
[23:50] <TiMiDo> enhance, why not?
[23:50] <kroq-gar78> TiMiDo: its a directory
[23:50] <TiMiDo> kroq-gar78, rm it
[23:50] <enhance> TiMiDo: library incompatibilities
[23:50] <TiMiDo> now
[23:50] <TiMiDo> ;)
[23:50] <kroq-gar78> TiMiDo: oh lol sry
[23:50] <TiMiDo> enhance, oh i see ;)
[23:50] <enhance> TiMiDo: can i get 2.6.38 on lucid lynx
[23:50] <TiMiDo> if you like. you might try.
[23:51] <TiMiDo> you need to be careful. with the libraries only though ;)
[23:51] <kroq-gar78> timido: I can't believe this. same problem. rmdir: failed to remove `millerrabin.pyc/': No such file or directory. ITS THERE OMG
[23:51] <TiMiDo> kroq-gar78, type whoami
[23:51] <kroq-gar78> kroq-gar78
[23:52] <jpmh> TiMiDo: unless I am missing something - that page you gave me a link to covers what I know of how to do it on the OLD systems - I need to do it on 11.10
[23:53] <kroq-gar78> Timido: live cd/sdcard?
[23:53] <TiMiDo> lol
[23:53] <TiMiDo> type cd /home/dir
[23:54] <kroq-gar78> u mean "cd /home/kroq-gar78/"
[23:54] <kroq-gar78> ?
[23:55] <TiMiDo> yeah
[23:55] <TiMiDo> ;)
[23:55] <kroq-gar78> ok
[23:55] <kroq-gar78> done
[23:55] <Mikeyn> damn this is bullshit
[23:55] <monsterwizard> hello
[23:56] <kroq-gar78> !language | Mikeyn
[23:56] <monsterwizard> I am havibg trouble installing ubuntu using wubi
[23:56] <TiMiDo> locate the dir name'
[23:56] <Ibyss> Is anyone by any chance having sound issues after upgrading?
[23:56] <Mikeyn> does anyone know how to launch ubuntu in a previous state before the updates broke it?
[23:56] <monsterwizard> It gets to the extraction phase then it provides a message
[23:56] <TiMiDo> Ibyss, alsa or oss problem?
[23:56] <Mikeyn> like loading an older kernel from my macbook
[23:56] <Ibyss> I'm wondering if this relates to my Lubuntu system.
[23:56] <Ibyss> Alsa.
[23:56] <monsterwizard> and tells me for more information "open this fle"
[23:56] <monsterwizard> the file in question is here
[23:56] <monsterwizard>  http://pastebin.com/VtkG7tsF
[23:57] <monsterwizard> What on earth do I do
[23:57] <Ibyss> System update, not distro version update.
[23:57] <kroq-gar78> TiMiDo: here it is prog_old/python/primes/cluster/millerrabin.pyc/
[23:57] <JulianR> Hello, may I ask for help in here?
[23:57] <kroq-gar78> JulianR: yes ;)
[23:57] <Ibyss> JulianR: Just ask any time.
[23:57] <JulianR> I'm trying to format a partition (netbook, single hdd)
[23:57] <TiMiDo> brb
[23:58] <JulianR> But it says it has a bad sector (just 1)
[23:58] <TiMiDo> give me one sec
[23:58] <kroq-gar78> JulianR: ntfs?
[23:58] <monsterwizard> hmmm
[23:58] <JulianR> No, trying to set it in ext4, it is empty actually
[23:58] <monsterwizard> wubi doesn't seem very stable it seems
[23:58] <Ibyss> Can't  a partition software such as          GPARTED just erase and reformat the system?
[23:58] <TiMiDo> ok im back kroq-gar78
[23:59] <TiMiDo> ;)
[23:59] <kroq-gar78> JulianR:  so reformat an EXT4 partition
[23:59] <Ibyss> I never heard of bad sectors while reformating.
[23:59] <kroq-gar78> JulianR: right?
[23:59] <kroq-gar78> oh nvm then
[23:59] <kroq-gar78> TiMiDo: hello again :)
[23:59] <JulianR> That's what I did, but the computer crashes when I'm trying to reformat it into a EXT4.
[23:59] <Ibyss> JulianR: First thing you want to do is "Create Partition table", let that erase.          Then remake an EXT4.
[23:59] <Ibyss> WOW.
[23:59] <kroq-gar78> JulianR: are you using GParted?
[23:59] <Ibyss> Might be a bad harddrive.
[23:59] <kroq-gar78> yeah that's what I was thinking