[05:06] <guiri> Hi.  The installer finished without configuring the user.  it boots to  a guest account.  i tried root and admin as the system password, but neither worked.  is there a way to create a default administrative user?
[05:14] <guiri> I guess I'll have to reinstall since rescue mode tries too.  the entire thing boots fine except for the lack of any user other than 'guest'
[09:31] <Airon90> Hi you all, I have a problem with Precise: Ubuntu doesn't recognize my mic anymore. Could someone help me in fixing it?
[09:40] <iceroot> Airon90: is alsamixer showing it?
[09:45] <Airon90> iceroot: I just checked alsamixer and it recognized the mic but the level was set to 0. Fixed, it was f***ing easy :D
[09:45] <Airon90> Thank you :)
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> Has anyone had their whole gui threaten to be uninstalled?
[09:45] <Airon90> Now I will test the camera I bought years ago :D
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> Seems there is an smb dep (lubuntu) and gvfs dep (ubuntu) which removed the gui apps from 2 installs when I ran apt-get autoremove. Bugs reported
[09:53] <micahg> ActionParsnip: I'm working on it
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> Micahg: np dude. No problem here. Not using the systems for ages now
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> micahg: thanks  btw :-). We all appreciate devs efforts
[10:04] <Airon90> Hi you all, could someone help me to make Ubuntu recognize my cam? :)
[10:22] <aquarius> er. I'm doing a dist-upgrade to get the latest stuff in precise, and I've jsut noticed that it's removing ubuntu-desktop...?
[10:24] <micahg> aquarius: yes, fixes are being built now
[10:25] <aquarius> micahg, ok. So... I should not reboot right now, yes?
[10:25] <aquarius> :)(
[10:26] <micahg> aquarius: as long as you didn't actually uninstall everything, I think it should be ok, but you should have new binaries within an hour (at least on the main archive) that should not do bad stuff like that
[10:28] <aquarius> micahg, cool. I'll hold on for a couple of hours and upgrade again :)
[10:28] <micahg> aquarius: thanks, please let us know if there are any more issues
[10:36] <micahg> aquarius: can you switch to the main archive mirror and try updating to see if the issue is resolved?
[10:36] <micahg> aquarius: assuming you're on amd64/i386
[10:37] <micahg> aquarius: nevermind, I can actually test that myself
[10:45] <aquarius> micahg, k
[10:45] <micahg> aquarius: it's not published yet, so hold off :)
[10:47]  * aquarius holds off :)
[10:47] <aquarius> (I'm on gb.archive anyway)
[11:28] <aquarius> micahg, ok, ubuntu-desktop now installs, dist-upgrade complete, all seems ok
[11:29] <micahg> aquarius: great :)
[11:29] <aquarius> micahg, thanks for the reassurance :)
[15:19] <edgy> Hi, after latest updates I couldn't boot my precise which is a guest in kvm. Now, to debug, I wanted to display grub, I tried shift key but it doesn't display
[15:24] <BluesKaj> hiyas folks
[15:39] <sskalnik> Is there a better way to get an updated version of the daily build than re-downloading the  image every day?
[15:40] <edgy> sskalnik: zsync
[15:40] <edgy> BluesKaj: hi
[15:40] <sskalnik> Cool
[15:41]  * edgy wonders how people are living on earth and don't know about zsync/rsync
[15:42] <BluesKaj> hi edgy, sskalnik
[15:42] <edgy> can any one help me boot my precise after latest updates
[15:42] <edgy> Hi, after latest updates I couldn't boot my precise which is a guest in kvm. Now, to debug, I wanted to display grub, I tried shift key but it doesn't display grub menu, I need help
[15:43] <BluesKaj> edgy, I've only heard of it , and know very little about it
[15:43] <edgy> BluesKaj: you just do zsync -i oldimage url and it will sync the differences only
[15:43] <BluesKaj> edgy, hold the shift key down immediately after the bios scrn , not before
[15:45] <edgy> BluesKaj: I tried but nothing happens, the bios in the virtual machine is a virtual one I guess, so this could be a difference?
[15:45] <BluesKaj> yes '
[15:45] <edgy> BluesKaj: did you manage to display grub in a guest machine before?
[15:47] <sskalnik> edgy:  A noob is me, that's why. Actually going with jigdo right now.
[15:47] <BluesKaj> yes but I didn't need to use the shift key
[16:27] <edgy> BluesKaj: actually, I wonder why grub is not displayed by default, there is already more than one kernel
[16:29] <BluesKaj> edgy, do you have auto login turned on
[16:29] <edgy> BluesKaj: no
[16:30] <BluesKaj> which OS is the host and which is the guest?
[16:33] <edgy> sskalnik: gido is good but AFAIK zsync development is active where jigdo stopped development
[16:33] <edgy> BluesKaj: both precise
[16:33] <sskalnik> edgy:  Correct afaik
[16:34] <sskalnik> edgy:  Any advantage of one over the other for mundane use?
[16:35] <edgy> sskalnik: I don't know but better be in the safe side
[16:36] <edgy> sskalnik: I can't even find jigdo files for ubuntu precise, where did you get them?
[16:37] <sskalnik> edgy:  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/
[16:38] <edgy> sskalnik: good but you won't find it for http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/
[16:38] <sskalnik> I actually went with jigdo because the files were right next to the daily ISOs. Path of least resistance. I'll look at zsync, though, on your recommendation; I do enjoy rsync, so I imagine there's some similarity.
[16:39] <sskalnik> edgy:  True, but in this case server is what I'm working with
[16:40] <kelevrinika> hey someone just directed me here
[16:40] <edgy> sskalnik: then it's not a big issue
[16:40] <sskalnik> edgy:  Indeed
[16:40] <kelevrinika> are we gonna have better fallback/gnome 2 support in the next release?
[16:41] <kelevrinika> i miss the old menus
[16:41] <Daekdroom> There is no "support" for fallback gnome.
[16:42] <sskalnik> Hrm, zsync does seem simpler than jigdo now that I read up on it. I will use that next time. Thanks for the advice.
[16:53] <kelevrinika> do you mean that there will be no fallback?
[16:55] <kelevrinika> your statement seems sarcastic which makes me think you didn't really answer my question.
[16:57] <sskalnik> kelevrinika:  Daekdroom is probably not being sarcastic. The question was answered; no support for fallback gnome.
[16:58] <Daekdroom> !info gnome-session-fallback
[16:58] <Daekdroom> ??universe
[16:58] <Daekdroom> !universe
[16:58] <Daekdroom> "Canonical does not provide a guarantee of regular security updates for software in the universe component, but will provide these where they are made available by the community."
[16:59] <Daekdroom> Among other explanations in that link
[17:03] <bjsnider> gnome-session-fallback is being phased out upstream because they've got llvmpipe able to do software rendering of gnome-shell
[17:03] <bjsnider> it was always intended as a temporary situation
[17:06] <edgy> sirs, I am getting a black screen with blue ribbons when I try to boot PP after latest updates, any help?
[17:07] <kelevrinika> indeed, thank you
[17:08] <bjsnider> i wouldn't expect any changes in gnome-session-fallback at all. it will just be like it is and then one day disappear
[17:08] <sskalnik> edgy:  PP?
[17:08] <sskalnik> edgy:  Oh, nvm
[17:08] <edgy> sskalnik: precise pangolin
[17:09] <bjsnider> that's a new feature. it's a blue ribbon distro
[17:09] <sskalnik> edgy:  Right, took me a second. XD What was updated?
[17:09] <edgy> sskalnik: nvm means what?
[17:09] <sskalnik> edgy:  'nevermind'
[17:09] <edgy> sskalnik: ;)
[17:09] <sskalnik> Looks like we both learned something new
[17:10] <sskalnik> But yes, on the subject of the error you're seeing, I'd check the list of what was upgraded.
[17:11] <edgy> sskalnik: I guess it's a problem with kdm, can someone confirm?
[17:14] <sskalnik> Nothing in the bug tracker
[17:14] <sskalnik> Checked the kdm log?
[17:15] <edgy> sskalnik: I am now installing lxdm to check
[17:15] <edgy> sskalnik: I couldn't even launch grub so as to access grub menu recovery and check
[17:55] <BluesKaj> edgy why are you running 2, 12.04 OSes?
[18:27] <edgy> BluesKaj: I was testing making my main desktop a guest
[18:28] <edgy> so I migrated all my host settings and data to a guest
[18:30] <BluesKaj> so you were just logged in as a guest user , you're not running 2 OSes
[18:32] <edgy> BluesKaj: I am running 2 OSes really, my host is precise and I installed another precise in a kvm machine and booting it every time to test the new env
[18:33] <edgy> BluesKaj: e.g my host has a hybrid graphics ATI/Intel which is not supported in linux
[18:33] <BluesKaj> heh , I'm just running 12.04 here and testing as is , and so far so good
[18:33] <edgy> BluesKaj: so the guest gives me better support for graphics because the emulated hda performs better
[18:34] <edgy> BluesKaj: did you do an update and dist-upgrade today? are you using kubuntu?
[18:34] <BluesKaj> edgy, yes and yes :)
[18:34] <BluesKaj> and yes :)
[18:35] <edgy> BluesKaj: strange! somehow I lost kde
[18:35] <edgy> BluesKaj: did you test the shift key with a guest?
[18:38] <edgy> BluesKaj: please do me a favor and test it, it would be a good experience
[19:53] <zleap> anyone here
[19:56] <yofel> !anyone | zleap
[20:02] <zleap> sorry i am trying to help someone track down a possible bug
[20:02] <zleap> in 11.04 if i use ctrl-alt num pad it resizes windows
[20:03] <zleap> on 11.10 this does not seem to happen,  so was wondering if this happened in 12.04
[20:04]  * zleap is just booting in to 12.04 from cd to have a look
[20:04] <genii-around> zleap: The ctrl-alt-<numpad +/numpad - > should still work to cycle through available resolutions. it's possible that the video driver only sees one available resolution at the moment however
[20:06] <zleap> this isn't resoultion,
[20:06] <zleap> the combination resizes application windows
[20:07] <zleap> e.g ctrl-alt-num 6 puts this xchat window in the right had side of the screen, 5 puts it full screen and 4 would put it on the left
[20:16] <zleap> it may be a bug,  according to https://launchpad.net/bugs/892368
[20:16] <zleap> thanks for your help genii-around
[20:20] <blair> will 12.04 have qt 4.8 in it?
[20:21] <zleap> isn't qt kde based
[20:22] <blair> zleap, yes
[20:22] <zleap> so its going to be kubuntu i guess
[20:22] <zleap> hold on
[20:22] <micahg> umm, KDE is Qt based, not the other way around
[20:23] <zleap> thats what i meant
[20:24] <zleap> blair, https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/12.04/LTS-Proposal
[20:24] <zleap> does that help
[20:26] <blair> zleap, the page doesn't mention going to qt 4.8; i'll presume they would like to though
[20:26] <zleap> it seems to suggest they would like to go to qt5
[20:26] <EvilResistance> *coughs*
[20:27] <EvilResistance> blair:  tryin to find you is near impossible :P
[20:27] <EvilResistance> blair:  from the kubuntu devs channel:
 EvilResistance: qt 4.8 is source and binary compatible
 We're planning on shipping 4.8.
[20:27] <yofel> zleap: no, qt5 won't be ready for 12.04 - and it's not LTS material, precise will get 4.8
[20:27] <EvilResistance> to answer your questions in #kubuntu (when we sent you here, i stared poking the MOTUs trying to find the kubuntu devs channel)
[20:27] <zleap> ok
[20:28] <zleap> well i tried to help
[20:30] <blair> EvilResistance, thanks for tracking me down and answering the question
[23:41] <passeride> anyone know why is banshee replaced?
[23:56] <passeride> hey, is 12.04 stable nuff for primary desktop?