=== h00k_ is now known as h00k === kholerabbi|away is now known as kholerabbi === kholerabbi is now known as kholerabbi|away [05:06] Hi. The installer finished without configuring the user. it boots to a guest account. i tried root and admin as the system password, but neither worked. is there a way to create a default administrative user? [05:14] I guess I'll have to reinstall since rescue mode tries too. the entire thing boots fine except for the lack of any user other than 'guest' === nyuszika7h is now known as nyan-cat === kholerabbi|away is now known as kholerabbi [09:31] Hi you all, I have a problem with Precise: Ubuntu doesn't recognize my mic anymore. Could someone help me in fixing it? === kholerabbi is now known as kholerabbi|away [09:40] Airon90: is alsamixer showing it? [09:45] iceroot: I just checked alsamixer and it recognized the mic but the level was set to 0. Fixed, it was f***ing easy :D [09:45] Thank you :) [09:45] Has anyone had their whole gui threaten to be uninstalled? [09:45] Now I will test the camera I bought years ago :D [09:48] Seems there is an smb dep (lubuntu) and gvfs dep (ubuntu) which removed the gui apps from 2 installs when I ran apt-get autoremove. Bugs reported === kholerabbi|away is now known as kholerabbi [09:53] ActionParsnip: I'm working on it [09:54] Micahg: np dude. No problem here. Not using the systems for ages now [09:54] micahg: thanks btw :-). We all appreciate devs efforts === nyan-cat is now known as nyuszika7h [10:04] Hi you all, could someone help me to make Ubuntu recognize my cam? :) [10:22] er. I'm doing a dist-upgrade to get the latest stuff in precise, and I've jsut noticed that it's removing ubuntu-desktop...? [10:24] aquarius: yes, fixes are being built now [10:25] micahg, ok. So... I should not reboot right now, yes? [10:25] :)( === doko_ is now known as doko [10:26] aquarius: as long as you didn't actually uninstall everything, I think it should be ok, but you should have new binaries within an hour (at least on the main archive) that should not do bad stuff like that [10:28] micahg, cool. I'll hold on for a couple of hours and upgrade again :) [10:28] aquarius: thanks, please let us know if there are any more issues [10:36] aquarius: can you switch to the main archive mirror and try updating to see if the issue is resolved? [10:36] aquarius: assuming you're on amd64/i386 [10:37] aquarius: nevermind, I can actually test that myself [10:45] micahg, k [10:45] aquarius: it's not published yet, so hold off :) [10:47] * aquarius holds off :) [10:47] (I'm on gb.archive anyway) === kholerabbi is now known as kholerabbi|Zzzzz [11:28] micahg, ok, ubuntu-desktop now installs, dist-upgrade complete, all seems ok [11:29] aquarius: great :) [11:29] micahg, thanks for the reassurance :) [15:19] Hi, after latest updates I couldn't boot my precise which is a guest in kvm. Now, to debug, I wanted to display grub, I tried shift key but it doesn't display === yofel_ is now known as yofel [15:24] hiyas folks [15:39] Is there a better way to get an updated version of the daily build than re-downloading the image every day? [15:40] sskalnik: zsync [15:40] BluesKaj: hi [15:40] Cool [15:41] * edgy wonders how people are living on earth and don't know about zsync/rsync [15:42] hi edgy, sskalnik [15:42] can any one help me boot my precise after latest updates [15:42] Hi, after latest updates I couldn't boot my precise which is a guest in kvm. Now, to debug, I wanted to display grub, I tried shift key but it doesn't display grub menu, I need help [15:43] edgy, I've only heard of it , and know very little about it [15:43] BluesKaj: you just do zsync -i oldimage url and it will sync the differences only [15:43] edgy, hold the shift key down immediately after the bios scrn , not before [15:45] BluesKaj: I tried but nothing happens, the bios in the virtual machine is a virtual one I guess, so this could be a difference? [15:45] yes ' [15:45] BluesKaj: did you manage to display grub in a guest machine before? [15:47] edgy: A noob is me, that's why. Actually going with jigdo right now. [15:47] yes but I didn't need to use the shift key [16:27] BluesKaj: actually, I wonder why grub is not displayed by default, there is already more than one kernel [16:29] edgy, do you have auto login turned on [16:29] BluesKaj: no [16:30] which OS is the host and which is the guest? [16:33] sskalnik: gido is good but AFAIK zsync development is active where jigdo stopped development [16:33] BluesKaj: both precise [16:33] edgy: Correct afaik [16:34] edgy: Any advantage of one over the other for mundane use? === max is now known as Visionaire [16:35] sskalnik: I don't know but better be in the safe side [16:36] sskalnik: I can't even find jigdo files for ubuntu precise, where did you get them? === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: Discussion and support for Precise Pangolin | Release schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule | Oneiric Support in #ubuntu | Alpha 1 Released! http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/precise/alpha1 [16:37] edgy: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/ [16:38] sskalnik: good but you won't find it for http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/ [16:38] I actually went with jigdo because the files were right next to the daily ISOs. Path of least resistance. I'll look at zsync, though, on your recommendation; I do enjoy rsync, so I imagine there's some similarity. [16:39] edgy: True, but in this case server is what I'm working with [16:40] hey someone just directed me here [16:40] sskalnik: then it's not a big issue [16:40] edgy: Indeed [16:40] are we gonna have better fallback/gnome 2 support in the next release? [16:41] i miss the old menus [16:41] There is no "support" for fallback gnome. [16:42] Hrm, zsync does seem simpler than jigdo now that I read up on it. I will use that next time. Thanks for the advice. [16:53] do you mean that there will be no fallback? [16:55] your statement seems sarcastic which makes me think you didn't really answer my question. [16:57] kelevrinika: Daekdroom is probably not being sarcastic. The question was answered; no support for fallback gnome. [16:58] !info gnome-session-fallback [16:58] gnome-session-fallback (source: gnome-session): GNOME Session Manager - GNOME fallback session. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.1-0ubuntu1.1 (oneiric), package size 4 kB, installed size 200 kB (Only available for any all) [16:58] ??universe [16:58] !universe [16:58] The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories [16:58] "Canonical does not provide a guarantee of regular security updates for software in the universe component, but will provide these where they are made available by the community." [16:59] Among other explanations in that link [17:03] gnome-session-fallback is being phased out upstream because they've got llvmpipe able to do software rendering of gnome-shell [17:03] it was always intended as a temporary situation [17:06] sirs, I am getting a black screen with blue ribbons when I try to boot PP after latest updates, any help? [17:07] indeed, thank you [17:08] i wouldn't expect any changes in gnome-session-fallback at all. it will just be like it is and then one day disappear [17:08] edgy: PP? [17:08] edgy: Oh, nvm [17:08] sskalnik: precise pangolin [17:09] that's a new feature. it's a blue ribbon distro [17:09] edgy: Right, took me a second. XD What was updated? [17:09] sskalnik: nvm means what? [17:09] edgy: 'nevermind' [17:09] sskalnik: ;) [17:09] Looks like we both learned something new [17:10] But yes, on the subject of the error you're seeing, I'd check the list of what was upgraded. [17:11] sskalnik: I guess it's a problem with kdm, can someone confirm? [17:14] Nothing in the bug tracker [17:14] Checked the kdm log? [17:15] sskalnik: I am now installing lxdm to check [17:15] sskalnik: I couldn't even launch grub so as to access grub menu recovery and check [17:55] edgy why are you running 2, 12.04 OSes? [18:27] BluesKaj: I was testing making my main desktop a guest [18:28] so I migrated all my host settings and data to a guest [18:30] so you were just logged in as a guest user , you're not running 2 OSes [18:32] BluesKaj: I am running 2 OSes really, my host is precise and I installed another precise in a kvm machine and booting it every time to test the new env [18:33] BluesKaj: e.g my host has a hybrid graphics ATI/Intel which is not supported in linux [18:33] heh , I'm just running 12.04 here and testing as is , and so far so good [18:33] BluesKaj: so the guest gives me better support for graphics because the emulated hda performs better [18:34] BluesKaj: did you do an update and dist-upgrade today? are you using kubuntu? [18:34] edgy, yes and yes :) [18:34] and yes :) [18:35] BluesKaj: strange! somehow I lost kde [18:35] BluesKaj: did you test the shift key with a guest? [18:38] BluesKaj: please do me a favor and test it, it would be a good experience === kholerabbi|Zzzzz is now known as kholerabbi [19:53] anyone here [19:56] !anyone | zleap [19:56] zleap: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll. [20:02] sorry i am trying to help someone track down a possible bug [20:02] in 11.04 if i use ctrl-alt num pad it resizes windows [20:03] on 11.10 this does not seem to happen, so was wondering if this happened in 12.04 [20:04] * zleap is just booting in to 12.04 from cd to have a look [20:04] zleap: The ctrl-alt- should still work to cycle through available resolutions. it's possible that the video driver only sees one available resolution at the moment however [20:06] this isn't resoultion, [20:06] the combination resizes application windows [20:07] e.g ctrl-alt-num 6 puts this xchat window in the right had side of the screen, 5 puts it full screen and 4 would put it on the left [20:16] it may be a bug, according to https://launchpad.net/bugs/892368 [20:16] Ubuntu bug 892368 in unity (Ubuntu) "I can't drag a half-maximized window to be any wider anymore" [Undecided,Confirmed] [20:16] thanks for your help genii-around [20:20] will 12.04 have qt 4.8 in it? [20:21] isn't qt kde based [20:22] zleap, yes [20:22] so its going to be kubuntu i guess [20:22] hold on [20:22] umm, KDE is Qt based, not the other way around [20:23] thats what i meant [20:24] blair, https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/12.04/LTS-Proposal [20:24] does that help [20:26] zleap, the page doesn't mention going to qt 4.8; i'll presume they would like to though [20:26] it seems to suggest they would like to go to qt5 [20:26] *coughs* [20:27] blair: tryin to find you is near impossible :P [20:27] blair: from the kubuntu devs channel: [20:27] EvilResistance: qt 4.8 is source and binary compatible [20:27] We're planning on shipping 4.8. [20:27] zleap: no, qt5 won't be ready for 12.04 - and it's not LTS material, precise will get 4.8 [20:27] to answer your questions in #kubuntu (when we sent you here, i stared poking the MOTUs trying to find the kubuntu devs channel) [20:27] ok [20:28] well i tried to help [20:30] EvilResistance, thanks for tracking me down and answering the question === kholerabbi is now known as kholerabbi|wolfi === kholerabbi|wolfi is now known as kholerabbi|brekk === kholerabbi|brekk is now known as kholerabbi|food === kholerabbi|food is now known as kholerabbi [23:41] anyone know why is banshee replaced? [23:56] hey, is 12.04 stable nuff for primary desktop?